4TH OF JULY SPECIAL： THE STATE OF AMERICAN FREEDOM
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Happy 4th of July! What better way to celebrate the holiday than with a special edition of Human Events Daily featuring the hosts of Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk, Alex Clark, Drew Hernandez, and the rest of the team.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard a special, very special 4th of July edition, Human Events
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Daily, but it's really a Turning Point USA special. We're not just powered by Turning
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Point USA. We are joined by the leading luminaries, I believe, of Turning Point USA, not all of
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them, but most of them. Charlie Kirk, of course, accounting for about 65% of them. And so what
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we have here today is a special edition. Today's the 4th of July. And while you're out there,
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maybe you're getting your barbecues ready. Maybe if you're like us, you got your fire
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pit set up, you've got your charcoal, you're going out on the lake, you're going fishing,
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but throw this on. And this is a special that we wanted to do here with the other host of
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Turning Point, not just myself, but open it up to all your favorites and get the team together
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for something that I wanted to call. Maybe we'll make this an annual thing or, you know,
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maybe it falls on its face and we never want to speak of it again. But we wanted to call this
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the the state of American freedom. And I said, well, I can't possibly do that by myself.
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So what I've got to do is bring together the whole team. So we've got Charlie Kirk,
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Alex Clark and Drew Hernandez for I believe this might be the first time that we've all ever done
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anything together like the four of us. Is that right, guys?
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Yeah. Yeah. This should be a show. It could be like a thing, right? It could be like a thing.
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It could. Charlie was just telling us that, you know, we were all prior to, you know, prior to
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starting and Charlie was telling us you were going through our favorite condiments. And, you know,
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for me, it's it's the honey mustard and the horseradish mustard. I love that just on everything.
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But Charlie, you had you had a different take. Is that right?
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No, I was asking everyone, why is salsa now the number one ingredient in America?
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Is that true? Is that like is that like an immigration thing? Like what's going on?
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No, I just I look, I'm not trying to I'm not trying to imply any demographic change. It's simply
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phonetic. It's because people love to say that. I like to say, oh, they're like, oh, that's like,
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I just walked right into a sign. It must be it must be impossible for a Latin American person
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to order seltzer water and not get salsa. I wanted salsa, not salsa. I wanted salsa. I didn't want salsa.
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Well, well, well, well, this is just just for the record, the brown guy in the room is Charlie
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Kirk. I got to stop you there. I got to put up the roadblocks. OK, this is getting a little racist.
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I'm getting offended. I'm starting to sweat. Let's just talk about the racist Fourth of July.
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Can we move forward now? No, we're good. No, we're good now because remain in Mexico is overturned.
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So we're you know, that means we're that means America's you know that we've we've,
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you know, undone our borders. And so we're all one big happy country now.
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We're all culturally appropriated, Drew, for July 4th. Thank you, Drew. We appreciate it.
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Allegedly, people are going to be wearing black today on the Fourth of July for mourning.
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Wait, what? Is that right? Yes, that's right. That's what they're saying.
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What do they say? Wait, I literally haven't heard this. I mean, this is a trend that's been going on
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for the last couple of years. Taylor Swift is one person who's had an annual huge celebrity
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started Fourth of July party every single summer. And then during the Trump presidency,
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she said, oh, no, no, we're not doing this anymore. And now other celebrities and other
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people are saying, yeah, same thing. We're not celebrating the Fourth of July. And also,
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we're all going to wear black because we're in mourning because Roe v. Wade.
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Wait, Taylor Swift is doing that? She has just stopped celebrating the Fourth of July in the
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last couple of years. She's just stopped being relevant, hasn't she? She's I haven't heard much
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out of her in a long time. I don't know. But isn't you're a big fan of hers, right, Alex?
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Yeah, I'm a huge fan. But I think it is interesting to see if we're going to start
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seeing a bunch of posts on social media now today and just this whole holiday weekend of people
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posting pictures of them in black and saying I'm in mourning of the Fourth of July.
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But Taylor Swift has gone Antifa. That's what you're telling me.
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She didn't say she was wearing black. I'm just saying other people are.
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But if you're attacking the Fourth of July, like, doesn't that still kind of go crosswise
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with trying to not acknowledge the Fourth of July? Because if you're attacking it,
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I agree. None of what these people do makes sense. I think that's kind of like what we're
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seeing here. I mean, I think just for the record, I think we should just erase the Fourth of July
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and celebrate Juneteenth because I think that is what needs to be done right now because that is
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where it's at right now. If you guys aren't, you're not relevant. No, no, listen, Jack, you're not
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relevant if you are not celebrating Juneteenth every single year and saying the Fourth of July
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is racist and should be undone because Juneteenth is really, really the real freedom here in this
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country. No, what's what's what's crazy? Like, by the way, please, please, Hollywood celebrities
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come out against the Fourth of July, attack the United States of America and grills and,
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you know, what do they call it? Like grill griller mindset. Right. That whole. Yeah. It's like I just
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want to grill the grill grows. You know, it's like it's like you're sort of, you know, your dad
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with the you know, he's got the jean shorts. He's got the white sneakers, the high tops. He's got the
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socks that come up to his knees and he's just out there. He's got the shirt tucked into the into the
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pants, you know, and he's just out there grilling. You know, I don't care about politics. I don't care
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about what's going on in my country. I don't care about, you know, the cities are going nuts.
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And all the rest. I just want to grill. That's so please, please, Hollywood celebrities come out
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against all of that because this is like literally change. It's like guerrilla mindset,
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but guerrilla mindset. Oh, man. Guerrilla mindset. Yeah. Pass the ayahuasca. Maybe that's like
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salsa with my eye. I totally copied Alex Clark, by the way. I had Cernovich on the show today and
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he's talking about ayahuasca again. Charlie, how dare you? I gave you a plug, though, Alex. It's okay.
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All right. I said I'm a total copy copier. Charlie, that means you're gonna have to copy
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Alex again because she just had Tanya on. No, she just had Tanya on this week. So that means
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now you got to have my wife on. Yeah, it's it's really, really cute. Tanya, I don't think she's
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ever done a podcast interview like that before. Right. Not like that. She's we've done. So Tanya
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and I used to do like, you know, we used to could joke around. We call it like the Jack and Tanya
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show. Like we would just do like little live streams together. Like we'd be in the kitchen
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or like, you know, be like on a date or something and we'd just pop the thing on or we just, you know,
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whatever news of the day or just chatting. And but she's, you know, she's kind of become like sort of a
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influencer type thing in her own right. And, you know, I think that what she just did with you
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on this this last spillover, that was the first like long form interview, like actual interview,
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right? That wasn't just like some casual thing that she and I were doing. We're like she talked
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about herself. She said stuff in your spillover that I didn't even know about. I have that effect
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on people. You know, it's interesting, you guys, is that it's like Oprah. What's interesting is,
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I mean, I've talked to people that everyone gets citizenship. I had a girl. I had a girl on that
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her arms were melted off. I've talked to burn survivors. I've talked to serial killer survivors,
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all the stuff. None of these guests have ever made me cry. But Tanya Posobiec describing how
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America has changed from the early 2000s to now made me start crying. And just the short amount
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of time in the last 20 years, how drastically different America is. That made me cry.
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I thought you were going to say you cried because she was so bad. So that's good.
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No, it was so good. So I'm very excited for people to hear it. It's the spillover. If you
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are not subscribed to my podcast. Yeah, if you guys hadn't checked it. But that's that's kind
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of actually what I wanted to talk to you guys about as well. That same kind of dynamic. Right.
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Because, you know, and it's something that Tanya, like as an outsider to the country,
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you know, she she tells me these things. She's like, I never thought that I would see like what
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you just said, Alex, about the the 4th of July. And she's like, one of the things that she always
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said to me was, you know, in Europe, right, people don't carry flags the way that or show
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or, you know, put up flags the way they do. They don't have like just regular houses with
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national flags on them. That's not a thing. But when she came to America, she said, this
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feels to me like the flag country because you guys love your flag so much. You love your
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country. I've never been in a place was this, you know, because like she was born in Soviet
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Union. So, you know, the flag would be up at like, you know, an official ministry or
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like the police station or the city hall or municipal whatever. Right. It wasn't something
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that you would you would personally hold at your own home. And so, like, we've totally
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lost a sense of that in the country, but then also a sense of just just what what that even
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means. Right. It got to the point where, you know, and I think and Charlie, I'm sure you
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know about this, that, you know, people say that if you see an American flag at somebody's
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house, that means now that they're actually more likely to be conservative, which you go
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back just a couple of years. That wasn't the case. Yeah. And unfortunately, it's been
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politicized. It was interesting. Even when I was growing up, though, like all the super
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like degenerate left wing people, they would never have the flag up. Now, we were kind of a
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neighborhood. 60 to 70 percent would put the flag up for July 4th, for sure. And I'll
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never forget, like maybe 2009, 2010, 2011. You started kind of started to see some of this
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anti-American energy. But, you know, as this is kind of the Fourth of July episode, Independence
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Day episode, you know, growing up that I was really thinking about this. That's a top three
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to five day in a childhood calendar. Oh, yeah. Right. Oh, yeah. I mean, easily top three
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to five day. And it's total. I mean, Christmas is number one, obviously. And your birthday
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might maybe number two. New Year's Eve would probably be number three. But top five is July
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4th. Just from, you know, the weather, at least where I grew up, was absolutely perfect
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in the Midwest. Right. Not exactly in Arizona, but from the fireworks to the pyrotechnics to
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eating food you aren't supposed to eat. And it would just be super awesome to be outside
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with all of your neighbors and friends. And it was just just it was like an excuse to go
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all out. Right. Yeah. And for good reason. And I'm afraid we've lost that in more ways
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than one. Did you guys know that a bunch of states today are have zero fireworks happening
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in the entire state because of the supply chain issues? The entire state of Arizona, no fireworks
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because they can't. Come on. Stop it. I don't believe that. There is a shortage in Arizona.
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This sounds like Russian disinformation. Let's go, Brandon. Charlie, me and then Drew. You live
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here, right? Okay. All three of us live in Phoenix. And the only fireworks, I'm saying that
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in quote, shows happening today are like pyrotechnic fire shows on water and stuff. That's all
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there is. No fireworks the whole state. Are you sure? Yes. How can you have like it's it's
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not the Fourth of July if you're not? What's that Simpsons line? Like celebrate the independence
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of your country by blowing up a small piece of it. You're right. I'm reading it right here.
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Some Arizona cities cancel Fourth of July fireworks due to shortages and fire dangers.
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Yeah. So thanks, President Biden. Yeah. Brandon is doing such a good job that we can't even
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afford to celebrate our country's Independence Day right now. That is how bad the supply chain
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is. That is how bad this has really gotten. I mean, it's just like Charlie saying, I mean,
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the spirit of Independence Day in the Fourth of July. I mean, when I think about being
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a kid growing up, I wasn't being told by my parents that America is racist and the Fourth
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of July should just be a day I wear all black and just like look in the mirror and just,
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you know, acknowledge how oppressed I am. It was always a holiday to celebrate American greatness,
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our freedom and the heritage of this country. And I mean, I mean, post 2020 with the BLM communists
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that have just totally subverted this country. It's gone into hyperdrive, even in 2021 with the
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whole vax mandates, freedom has been violated on a huge scale. And you fast forward to 2022 right now,
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what have we've seen? The push of the red flag laws, a further violation of our freedom,
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Second Amendment, the Ministry of Truth that was being pushed that obviously got taken down by Jack
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Posobiec and others themselves. But I mean, here we are now as well, where this freedom is continuing to
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be violated. You're seeing this spirit over and over and over and over again, where these people
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are pushing harder and harder and harder. And I mean, if we're talking about the state of freedom
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in our country, there are some great things to talk about. But also these people are advancing on the
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other side. And I think you guys all know that. Drew, that's why you literally always wear black,
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right? Yeah, I wear black all the time because I love Antifa and I am an oppressed person of color.
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And that's what that means to me, because Taylor Swift, a white woman, told me so.
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No, it's it's P.O.G. Now you guys have heard this, right? P.O.G.
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No, that's Hillary, right? Because because because Hillary Clinton came out and said
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that Clarence Thomas, he's always been a person of grievance. I went to law school with him and he
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was always a person of grievance. And so everyone, your P.O.G. is right now you're a person of
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grievance. Oh, brother. Oh, my God. It's like a black guy that has wrong. Like he kind of has
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some grievances. I just want to I just want to reinforce the point, though, that that there there
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are millions of kids that will never experience the July 4th that we had growing up. And it was
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it was special from the parades in the morning to the food, to the barbecue, to the black parties,
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to the fireworks, to staying up super late is special. And I just I don't even what do they do
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now. They wear masks and have vaccine parties or something. I don't know. You have to get out of
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the cities, as Jack Posobiec said, for the holiday and you have to go to the little small towns on the
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outskirts. They're the ones that have American flags on every single porch and do the Fourth of
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July morning day parades and all that kind of stuff. You have to go to the small towns because
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they're still doing it. Yeah. If you got to go and like make the effort. So like for anybody,
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you know, listening or like with me, you know, I've got so I got a four year old and a one year old
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now. Right. And so it's like, all right, it's now my duty to basically give them that Fourth of July
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in in whatever way I possibly can. Right. So if we can find a parade and I'm in the D.C. area.
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So, you know, parades, not so much, you know, President Trump tried to have like the military
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parade, which would have been awesome, by the way. You should have totally done. And, you know,
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was totally never would have happened if we had a military parade. Yeah. And Ukraine never would
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have been invaded either, by the way. One just one kidding me. One Trident nuclear missile just
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driving down Pennsylvania Avenue. Boom. Never would have happened. Never would have happened.
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And so and then he never would have had to steal the presidential limo and fight off the entire I
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think it was actually the entire entire brigade of Secret Service agents. The last last time I
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checked with my Delta. Cassidy Hutchinson saw it all. Yeah. She said. No, I was there with her. I was
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right there. And, you know, Brian Williams was flying in the helicopter. I was going to say
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had a sniper fire. Get me to the way. Yeah. Cernovich was running around with the QAnon shaman
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throwing, you know, handing out ayahuasca to everybody. It was a real thing. It was a real
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thing. It was a fun event. And and and like so. But what was I saying? Oh, yeah. Something about
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fireworks. So it's like it's like you got to do that. Right. And so we've got you know,
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we live near some water. So it's like, look, we're I'm taking my kids fishing. We're going
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to you know, I was able to find some fireworks nearby. There's like a minor league baseball
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team outside of town. And like, we're going to go we're going to go to the baseball game.
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We're going to watch the fireworks afterwards. And it's like, look, if I have to drive a little
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bit to do that, I'll do it. Right. Because my kids for them, that'll be money in the bank
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that, you know, whatever happens, whatever kind of life they have when they grow up,
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you know, they'll always go to go back and be like, you know what? My dad used to take
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me to this stuff when I was little. And it was and it was awesome. And it wasn't good.
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And Charlie, to your point, it wasn't good just because it was the childhood that we had.
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It was good because it was it was virtuous and wholesome. Well, no, it was also good for another
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reason. Dipping dots. OK, let's just be honest. Those are so overrated. You're absolutely wrong.
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You see, that's no, no, no, no, no. All right. My four year old loves dipping dots.
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No, no, no. Alex, investigate her domestic terrorists, like whatever you have to call
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her. No dots were the best. There's nothing better than a Chicago 85 degree day and dipping
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dots. There's nothing better. That's my contribution. My kid, it's when we go somewhere and he sees
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the dipping dots, he'll look at me and like it's it's just over. It's like I know that if I don't
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get him something or at least like it's like like the force of will into him. So, you know,
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it's like you use it right as a parent. You've got to use the dipping dots and use rewards
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in general as like, OK, so what did you do? Like, did you you know, did you say your prayers
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today? Did you you know, did you finish your dinner, clean your plate? Did you did you clean
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your room? Did you make your bed right to hold your in Peterson thing? Did your parents tell
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you any absurd lies? Like my parents would tell me that when I heard the ice cream truck,
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the song meant they were out of ice cream. What? Oh, that's cruel. I feel bad for you.
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I thought being told Santa was real was a horrible. That's this explains so much about Alex, by the
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way, that I'm learning how our parents. It's this massive redemption arc. Right. Yeah. Totally.
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This totally make because we used to all just, you know, I mean, boy, I had to delete so many
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text threads about Alex, but, you know, and it's like it's no, I didn't realize it now. So you're
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you're you know, you've got to do. So that's the your next spillover. Right. You know, lies. My
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parents told me that's what I should do. Sounds like a book. You've got to have like your parents
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on or something. Wow. Lies. My parents told me should be some kid that grew up in the 2010 era,
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like now or the 2020s. Once they're an adult, they write a memoir called lies. My parents told me it
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was growing up in like this BLM Marxist household and then they grow up and be conservative. Yeah,
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that's so true. My mom gave me puberty blockers with my cereal and I was told that I was going to
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be happier. We're going to see this guys. I don't know what it's like in Arizona, but in D.C. right
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now, I mean, you want to talk state of American freedom, right? It's I see these kids, every
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pharmacy. Right. And it's a line of kids and the families all have masks on and they're all they're
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all lined up for the vaccine. And I'm sitting here. I'm like, you're wearing masks. Number one,
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you're getting the vaccine for your kids. There's there's no data on this whatsoever. And it's it's
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the most beautiful summer that we've had. We're actually having a very mild summer here on the East
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Coast right now. It's starting to heat up a little bit, but it's been like like mid 70s,
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low 80s. It's been so nice. And I'm sitting here like, what are you doing? Elmo's getting
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vaccinated now for the five and under crowd. Elmo will soon have sads. Elmo's first heart stent.
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Charlie actually was on. Charlie was on a college campus and some girl went up to him and
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remember this, Charlie, she asked you for advice and said, my kids or my parents put
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me on puberty blockers. Now I'm wondering if this was all a mistake or whatever, because
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I'm not happier. I was at Berkeley now. It was so puberty blockers that was used to when
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I when I was little, that used to be a thing that was like it was like I don't know if you'd
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say conspiracy theory, but like like a rumor about like like the Olsen twins. Right. And full
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house and this whole like, oh, they're trying to keep them younger. I know a lie my parents
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told me. Get more seasons out of them. I know. I used to think Lindsay Lohan had a twin.
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Oh, yes. Oh, because of parent trap. I'm sorry. Totally unrelated. Just had to, I had to throw
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that in there. I thought Lynn, I, a little late, a little delayed. What, you're just now realizing
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she didn't? No, no, no. You brought up the Olsen twins. It reminded him of young Holly.
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It was a trigger. Okay. And then I thought the Olsen twins were not twins. I thought they were
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superimposed by artificial intelligence. I was all screwed up. Okay. I've never heard
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that rumor that the Olsen twins were on puberty blockers. No, no, no. That was a huge thing
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in the nineties. That was a thing that like they were given a puberty blocker. No, no,
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no. It's a damn Joey Gladstone. Jack is saying it was like, it was like a controversy. Right.
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And it was like this whole, you know, oh, they're doing it to keep them young so they can get
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more seasons of the show because the show was doing so well. And, you know, and then
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like, and, and it, but at the time, right, it was considered like, like child abuse to
00:21:11.460
give someone puberty blockers. It wasn't, it was like against their will. And, you know,
00:21:16.560
maybe the, and like the parents didn't even know about it and trying to remember. Right.
00:21:20.860
And, um, you know, obviously the, you know, they, they go and grow up, but even, even now,
00:21:25.640
like, can I say this? Like, like they're, they're, they're not. So Alex, here we go.
00:21:30.640
Got to say it now is like when you, so Elizabeth Olsen, right. That's their younger sister.
00:21:36.200
Right. But like, all right, I'm just gonna say it. Like she, how do we even get on this?
00:21:43.020
Right. She just looks so much healthier. Yeah. She doesn't look like a math.
00:21:46.340
I just have to say Olsen sisters, like fentanyl girls or something.
00:21:49.880
They look like it. They look like drug addicts for sure.
00:21:51.720
And she's, she's way taller than them. And like, they, it's like, all right, I'm saying it. It
00:21:57.000
looks like the difference between when you see somebody from North Korea and somebody from South
00:22:00.340
Korea. No, I mean, that's, that's, I mean, I thought you were going somewhere else. That's
00:22:03.280
totally, that's totally fair. I didn't know where I was going. I didn't know where I was going. I
00:22:07.360
looked at the dark place and then I walked away. No, there's some super weird stuff going on with
00:22:12.280
them. And yeah. So the parallel you're making Jack is that basically like all of this weird stuff that
00:22:18.240
started happening. I mean, who's to say how the next generation of kids is going to end
00:22:22.840
up. I mean, I've been watching the, uh, geez, they do look terrible. I haven't seen, I've
00:22:27.040
been watching Scientology, the Leia Remini on Netflix. I've been rewatching them. And like,
00:22:32.780
you just watch people coming out of cults and their reactions. They're broken. They're crying.
00:22:38.600
Like they want their lives back. Some of them are extremely angry. And I've just kind of like
00:22:42.720
been watching that. And I've been wondering, I mean, 10, 20 years down the line. I mean,
00:22:48.480
I think we are really, when I say these people are like a death cult, I mean, I don't just say
00:22:51.840
that just to be, you know, provocative. Like these are, this is literally a cult. I think 20 years from
00:22:56.440
now, we'll probably see the same thing. I think we'll see a very angry, pissed off, broken, hurt
00:23:02.800
generation that wants revenge because they've been lied to from their parents, the media, Hollywood,
00:23:09.320
the music industry. This has just been shoved down their mouths without even giving them a chance
00:23:14.800
to understand what it is. And I think that is really what's going to cause a backlash. I could
00:23:19.960
be wrong. I don't know what you guys think. I could be totally wrong about this, but that's kind of what
00:23:23.660
I foresee coming from this generation. Once they wake up to the fact they've been, they've been
00:23:28.720
groomed, they've been lied to, they've been manipulated. Well, and that's the thing, like tale as
00:23:32.440
old as time, every single generation of teenagers hates being told what to do. This is every single
00:23:38.000
generation. And so what we have to do now is really explaining to Gen Z, who can then explain to the
00:23:43.500
next generation, is that the government wants to be like your parent and always telling you what's
00:23:47.900
good for you, what's not good for you. This is what you can do. This is what you can't do. Teenagers
00:23:51.680
typically rebel against that. They don't like that. So we have to explain to them, the government is
00:23:56.320
manipulating you. Big tech is manipulating you. Big pharma is manipulating you. Why do you stand for that?
00:24:01.200
Do you? The, the, because Taylor Swift told him to Alex, that's why the crime in our cities is
00:24:11.700
spiraling out of control and it is spilling into the suburbs on the upper East side of New York city,
00:24:17.780
a young mother, 20 years old, just had someone walk up to her and shoot her in the head in one of the
00:24:25.060
most high end neighborhoods of all of the United States. The baby was fine, but the mother is no
00:24:32.560
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you're seeing it, right? I think you're seeing like you're, you're starting cause people are,
00:26:21.740
you know what it is right now? It's like, we have everything, but we have nothing. Right. Because
00:26:24.920
we have, um, you have, you have, you have Google and Wikipedia and everything, and you can, you can
00:26:30.440
order something off of your, your, a piece of glass in your pocket. Right. You know, and some of
00:26:34.680
that's starting to break apart, but it's like, like we have no way to filter any of it because
00:26:39.240
we've lost any sense of meaning. And so you actually start to look out there and, you know,
00:26:45.320
this, this is why Jordan Peterson took off is because he said, look, you know, there is meaning
00:26:50.220
and, and, and he reached out to a group of people that's, and said that, and it's like our, our sort
00:26:57.420
of civil, um, society, right. You know, we, we kind of got away from that for so long when we started
00:27:04.520
tearing down all of what it meant, you know, they said, you know, America's bad. How can you Billy
00:27:09.440
Joe, you know, green day guy is like, I hate America. And it became cool to say like, you hate
00:27:13.860
your country versus like coming to a point where it says, you know, we're saying, no, we do support
00:27:20.060
our country. And yeah, guess what we have, we've had problems. Like we get that right. You know,
00:27:24.640
but you know, even, even weirdly enough, like you go back into the 1960s and seventies and there were
00:27:31.400
still people who were patriotic, but they were just saying, we just want our country to be
00:27:35.000
better. Um, you didn't see people just tearing down the whole thing. And so if you don't have
00:27:38.740
anything that to hold onto, and whether that be, you know, religion or just some kind of moral
00:27:43.960
structure and a basis for saying, yeah, you know what America is good. And America is a force for
00:27:51.480
good in the world. That doesn't mean that everything, you know, this war is good or that war, the,
00:27:56.180
the, the global system and NATO and all, no, no, we're not talking about that. We're talking about the
00:28:00.240
idea of what America is 4th of July, right? 1776, you know, growing up, you know, for us,
00:28:08.640
um, you know, being in the Philadelphia area, right. Is where I grew up. And because July 4th,
00:28:16.020
70, 76 is literally like Philadelphia's claim to fame even today. Um, you know, as opposed to like,
00:28:24.040
you know, today where it's just like, you know, mass homicides and people shooting and killing each
00:28:28.780
other all the time. Um, you know, but growing up, it was like, you know, the whole city and the whole
00:28:34.740
area was just so proud that we were the birthplace of this country where people for the first time,
00:28:41.440
you know, ever basically said, you know, it's not just about, it's not just about people and
00:28:47.040
government and Kings and monarchies and everything else. It's that we're actually going to have
00:28:50.980
freedom that people have, individuals have freedom, right? Our communities can have freedom.
00:28:55.740
What, what does that mean? What do natural rights mean? What do, you know, all of these things and
00:29:01.940
these ideas that come out of the enlightenment, uh, mean, and that we're going to put it into force.
00:29:06.260
And then they fought a war for eight years and Valley Forge is right there. And the whole story
00:29:10.180
about that, but it's, and so like growing up, you know, we would go to Valley Forge on the 4th of July,
00:29:15.140
we would go to independence hall. We, we'd learned about that stuff. And it's a huge part of what it
00:29:22.240
used to be, at least I thought, you know, growing up in the Philadelphia area. And it's like, we need
00:29:29.360
to be out there saying, guess what? You know, America is awesome. And if you think that, look,
00:29:35.920
I I've been everywhere. I live in China. I've been all over Europe, right? You know, the America is
00:29:41.580
very special. It's very, very special. And a lot of the other places out there, like they do not have
00:29:47.020
what we have and we take so much, by the way, air conditioning, right? You know, Europe does not
00:29:52.320
have air conditioning, right? Uh, right. System. They, they don't have it. It's just not a thing
00:29:56.780
there. Yeah. But I thought it just doesn't get the Germans of air conditioning. Not this summer.
00:30:02.140
Um, they don't have air conditioning in orange County. Now that I think about it, when I was in
00:30:05.820
London, you're right. They had a space cooler. Yeah. They, they have like a fan owner and like a space
00:30:11.900
cooler. It's not, why do you think that is? I mean, they obviously have some, they think that we,
00:30:16.540
they think that we're like, we overdo it. Right. And then, and now they also call it because of
00:30:21.220
like the green movement. They say, Oh no, it's better that we don't have air conditioning because
00:30:24.380
it's better for the environment that we don't use so much power. That's kind of what America is
00:30:29.100
overdoing it. A hundred percent. Big, better, stronger. They also don't live in Phoenix. So I
00:30:35.420
don't need to be lectured by these people. Okay. I mean, right. Exactly. Dusseldorf aside. Okay.
00:30:40.820
It's not exactly Scottsdale. No, Jack is right. I mean, these people, I mean,
00:30:46.200
if you take it back down to American politics and the far left, America's racist, xenophobic,
00:30:51.360
it's bad for black people and brown people or any person of color. And it's only good for white
00:30:55.680
people. That's always the mainstream national narrative. Meanwhile, you have millions of
00:31:00.360
people to this day that are illegally and legally still literally putting their lives on the line,
00:31:06.380
their families on the line, just to get here. Black people, brown people alike, all people across the
00:31:11.980
globe are coming to this country because they still see it as a beacon of light and hope and
00:31:15.660
freedom and better wherever they're coming from. That fact still lives to this day, to this day.
00:31:22.800
Here we are July 4th, 2022, to this day, that is still a reality because of what America resembles.
00:31:30.460
The American dream, people can have prosperity. They can have everything that they never could have had
00:31:35.400
in their country where they're coming from. And that reality has not changed no matter how much
00:31:41.360
the communists in this country try and distort that reality. It hasn't changed to this moment.
00:31:45.900
That's why we're having millions of people flood into this country. I'm not for it. I'm just saying
00:31:50.760
it's happening that people are coming to this country because they view it as a great place to
00:31:55.380
be better than where they're coming from. Yeah, it's not that they think it's terrible. Yeah.
00:31:57.420
But are they bringing fireworks? That's another conversation. Leave your fentanyl, bring your
00:32:08.440
fireworks. Because it sucks to be you if you don't have fireworks. Because I've got plenty. I had the
00:32:13.380
Poso household. We have a stockpile of fireworks that I have been steadily building up. You know,
00:32:20.020
we do like the, you know, the emergency food supply that we stock up on and all the other stuff. No,
00:32:25.980
no, no, no. I've been building. I didn't really do this on purpose. But I just every once in a while
00:32:30.320
be somewhere or like, you know, when you cross states and you see the fireworks place, I'll just
00:32:34.100
stop and buy some fireworks. Right. And then you just steadily kind of build that up until the 4th of
00:32:38.880
July. And then it's time to set them all off. And it's like having kids, especially for like,
00:32:45.400
with my oldest, right, because he's four now. So he just he he remembers things he, you know,
00:32:51.620
these are, you know, he has the ability to form memories now. So for him, it's it, you know,
00:32:57.400
obviously, it's not his first 4th of July. But it's, it's starting to be like, I know, it'll be
00:33:01.680
like the first one that he has a really strong memory of, you know, and he's and he's very aware
00:33:05.900
of what's going on. And so, you know, I want the American flag everywhere. And actually, we go
00:33:10.100
and we'll go for we'll go for bike rides together. Just, you know, well, I throw the you know,
00:33:15.260
throw him on the with like a backseat for him. And then it's like, you know, it's kind of like my
00:33:19.340
little bit of leg day for me, you know, because he's like 50 pounds now. And it will do a couple
00:33:24.100
of miles on the bike. But we'll count, you know, how I always say how many American flags do you
00:33:28.820
see, right? And we'll count them. And then, you know, and then we get to we'll get to the
00:33:32.240
playground, they've got a big American flag there. And we'll do the we'll do the Pledge of Allegiance
00:33:35.700
together. And just and but just casually, I don't like, you know, make him stand at attention or
00:33:39.620
anything. But it's just you should just make it part. No, I should I know, right? You just make it part
00:33:45.140
of just just a normal part of life. And at some point, right, you know, he'll get older,
00:33:51.620
and he'll meet other people. And he'll say, Oh, wait, your family wasn't like that? Because my
00:34:00.320
And I don't know what other what other what other Fourth of July traditions did you guys have growing
00:34:04.360
up? Parades for sure. Now we have gay parades. You know, we have pride parades, right? So we have a
00:34:10.180
whole month of pride. And then one day where you're not even a big deal when I grew up in the
00:34:14.780
summers of Chicago, Wheeling, Arlington Heights, Schaumburg, it was a big deal. Every city would
00:34:20.400
have a parade. Fireworks were a big deal as well. Because I mean, look, Alex, you know this,
00:34:24.620
you grew up in Indiana, right? Yep. So you know this in the Midwest, I mean, the winters are hellish.
00:34:29.560
I mean, so anything in the summer, it's a massive celebration just to be outside and to be alive.
00:34:35.740
I mean, and so in Chicago, in particular, the parades, I mean, you get there early, you'd carve out
00:34:42.440
your seat. You know, they'd bring like gymnasts and they call it the Jesse White tumblers. And
00:34:46.740
yeah, I think I guess they still do it. Marching bands, all of it. But it was a big part of
00:34:51.400
fire trucks, the police, the fire department, all of it. It was a huge deal. I mean, I know that
00:34:55.580
that's not isolated, just Illinois. I know they do Fourth of July parades all across the country,
00:35:00.000
but it was a big deal growing up. But but here's the difference, right? You have a parade now,
00:35:05.400
you have a parade then. The difference is the parade used to have an ethos to it, right?
00:35:12.420
Yeah, the parade has ball gags now, not burgers. Yeah, we're here for we're here for America,
00:35:18.300
right? And like, that's what this is about. Now, it's sort of just like it's about the acts
00:35:24.360
themselves, right? So it's about, you know, OK, here's this school. Here's this this college.
00:35:29.480
Here's this group. Here's the you know, whatever it is, right? It's about the acts rather than the fact
00:35:34.800
that we're all here to actually celebrate something that's bigger than all of us. Right.
00:35:39.240
And I think that's kind of, you know, what's the meme is like, you know, remember what they took
00:35:44.500
from us. Right. And it's it's it's that idea. If you're talking to Jack Posobiec,
00:35:49.600
it's not nationalism. Yes. Did you see the Burger King thing in in Delaware, by the way?
00:35:54.860
No. Did you guys see this? It was going viral on Twitter the other day.
00:35:59.060
Apparently, they were like remodeling the Concord Mall in in Wilmington. Right. You know,
00:36:03.900
Biden's town. And I guess they they like took down a wall in this mall and they found a Burger King
00:36:12.780
that had been entirely preserved from like the early 90s. And it would have been like completely
00:36:19.180
untouched. And there's like and it was like clean, too. There were like neon, you know,
00:36:25.240
designs and like the old, like weird, like off like bluish white aquamarine, you know,
00:36:30.960
seats and everything. And and people were like, oh, my gosh. And they were like, you know, this is
00:36:36.720
like this is like opening up a tomb in ancient Egypt. But, you know, of New Jersey. I love those
00:36:42.620
YouTube channels where like YouTubers go to like ruins or like old, like broken down amusement.
00:36:48.080
Oh, I love that stuff, too. So this is this is one of the reasons why I did a whole podcast on this,
00:36:53.180
but I don't have a proper country once. Well, this is the this is the thing. So I asked a room full of
00:36:58.760
anybody, young people, old people, mostly 25 to 35 year olds. And I say, how many of you believe
00:37:03.680
the country you grew up in was happier and a freer place to have every hand goes up? And it's actually
00:37:08.560
a conservative argument at its core, though, when you think about it, because it means that all the
00:37:13.460
progress we've had hasn't made you happier and freer and better. And so there is kind of a yearning to
00:37:19.140
the restoration of the country that used to exist, which inherently is a conservative argument that
00:37:24.000
we accelerated too quickly and we embrace things that we shouldn't have. So I think the country is
00:37:28.580
far more conservative in that sense. As far as passage of time, nostalgia, traditions, things are
00:37:34.480
changing way too quickly. And honestly, people can't handle it. Us four can because we're agile and smart
00:37:41.040
enough to figure it out. But a lot of people, they can't handle the uprooting of traditions to change
00:37:46.440
every five to 10 years. It's also super unhealthy. I mean, you need some things to stay the same. You
00:37:50.540
need some things that your kids did that you did that do that you're that you do that your
00:37:54.480
grandparents did and their grandparents did you. The breaking of that chain and that bond
00:37:59.440
requires something to fill that void. And what has filled the void is this abyss of modernity.
00:38:06.260
Juneteenth, right? Yeah. And it's it's it's new traditions. Like we're all going to do TikTok videos
00:38:10.720
about how we got breast reduction surgery or whatever. No, it's true. And I think Charlie's right,
00:38:15.680
because like when you think about it, the American flag, some people are probably afraid to fly it
00:38:21.000
because it's been so politicized and it's been demonized to the point where in the minds of
00:38:27.460
these communists, they've pretty much made in their minds that the American flag is synonymous
00:38:32.620
with a Trump hat. So there are probably people right now, this comes with a sense of sorrow where
00:38:37.440
it's like there might be nonpolitical, apolitical people out there that love America, that have nothing
00:38:42.580
to do with politics. They love celebrating the 4th of July. But now because the flag has been so
00:38:48.060
demonized that it's like comes with a sense of sorrow. It's like I can't even celebrate the 4th
00:38:53.520
of July anymore without being called a freaking racist, even if I'm black. Well, let me ask you
00:38:57.460
guys a question. The demonization of the American flag and conservatives in general. I mean, we saw that
00:39:02.760
just explode during the Trump era. But do you think that that is it was just exclusive to Trump
00:39:08.500
or going forward? It's always going to be like that towards conservative presidents and conservatives
00:39:14.060
and the American flag. I think it's going to be like that. Yeah, I think it's totally going to
00:39:18.580
keep going. But I go I go back and I would say throw on there's a classic Johnny Cash. It's not
00:39:25.960
really a song. It's more like a spoken word thing. Do you guys know Ragged Old Flag by Johnny Cash?
00:39:30.580
No, no. So it's it's this it's it's the spoken word thing. And it's you know, he's telling a story
00:39:37.460
about sitting down in an old, you know, country square and there's an old, ragged, messed up flag
00:39:43.740
sitting up and it's all threadbare and nasty. And some guy sits next to him who's coming from out of
00:39:49.260
town. And he goes, he's like, you know, and you know, just kind of as we're, you know, getting
00:39:55.440
towards the wrap up point here that the guy sits down next to him and says, hey, you're you know,
00:40:00.700
your flags, you know, ragged up and and and Johnny Cash then proceeds to tell him and he's like, well,
00:40:06.540
he got one flag there when got tore up crossing the Delaware, got another flag down when it was
00:40:12.600
fighting in the south, got another flag fighting in World War Two, the birth of guns and another flag.
00:40:18.600
And he just kind of goes through the history of the United States. And it's it was a 70s
00:40:23.540
song. And so it goes up through Vietnam and then Korea or Korea, then Vietnam. And then you could
00:40:29.820
easily add Iraq, Afghanistan right now. And he said, but you know what? That flag's been through
00:40:36.140
a whole lot. And I believe she can go through a whole lot more because it's it's more than
00:40:40.980
representing a a it's more than just a flag. Right. It's it's the people that live here. And I don't
00:40:47.580
think America is just and there was that there was that thing about America just being, oh, it's just
00:40:52.880
an idea. Right. You know, it's just America is just like an idea and we can change the idea.
00:40:57.800
And it's no America is a place. America is a place. Antifa is an idea. People are getting it
00:41:01.900
very confused. Yeah, exactly. Like this is our home. Right. You know, and we do have a right to say
00:41:07.800
that we want our home to be better. And if there's going to be I keep saying this like a broken record,
00:41:12.800
but if there's going to be a new right, you know, the thing that's got to be at the center of that
00:41:17.540
is is families and then just saying, look, we want to clean up our home. We want to go around
00:41:23.320
and we want to make things better and we can notice them and we can say, you know, crime is crazy.
00:41:30.340
You guys are attacking our home. Right. That's the symbol of our home. And that's why,
00:41:35.740
you know, when when when people say they have a problem with flag burning. Right. It's because
00:41:41.280
it's not because the flag is supposed to be a symbol of our government. Right. It's something bigger
00:41:44.740
than us. It's a symbol of our home. And so there's a there's a drive in movie theater,
00:41:50.280
believe it or not, about 45 minutes from me. And I take I take my kids there as much as possible.
00:41:56.760
And it's it's so awesome because they do like like the worst, most unhealthy fried food and like old
00:42:04.540
school stuff. But they still start every single night with the Star Spangled Banner and they play
00:42:10.240
and they ask that everybody's get out of your car and stand up and put your hand over your heart,
00:42:16.120
take your hat off. And then they play a this like patriotic, you know, montage. Cool. And I want my
00:42:22.540
kids to have that experience. And you don't even have to talk about it. Right. Right. Because it's
00:42:27.560
experience. Right. And you just you shut up, you put your phone down, whatever it is, and you you honor
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the fact this is our home and that means something. Amen. Well said. That's all right. Final,
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final thoughts. Final thoughts. We got like like like, you know, five, 10 minutes here. OK,
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I have a final thought. I have a final thought. Hebrew National hot dogs are the best brand of hot
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dogs. Period. Do we have a sponsor deal? Hold on. I agree. Alex made up for your dip and dot slide.
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Oh, what's going on? They are the best. Go to the grocery store today. Get those hot dogs. Put
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them on the grill. Everyone will be like, whoa, these are way better than last year.
00:43:12.180
I agree. I do like Hebrew National. Hebrew National is really good. Really good. It is. Chili dogs
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are my favorite. Drew, what do you got? I just want the American people to know that if you love America
00:43:25.060
right now in 2022, you are not racist. If you're black and brown, you're not a white supremacist. If you love
00:43:30.960
this country, it's OK to love the country. It's OK to wave the American flag. Do not be afraid of
00:43:36.960
these communists that want to take it down and shame you and put you into a state of fear where
00:43:42.600
you and your family cannot openly celebrate the greatest country on the face of planet Earth,
00:43:47.560
which is the United States of America right now. Of course, we have some sins, which one is, you know,
00:43:52.420
the murdering and slaughtering of babies, which the far left wants to continue to push forward. But
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they don't want to talk about that. But I hope everyone listening has a great 4th of July. Keep
00:44:00.840
pushing forward. Keep being who you are. It's amazing. Amen. Charlie. I want people to know
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a couple of things. The country we grew up in was much better than we are now. That's not depressing.
00:44:12.060
We can rebuild it because we have a memory of it. And that's the positive. It'd be more depressing if
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we never lived through it. Right. So it's easier to rebuild something that you have a memory of it.
00:44:20.940
We just have to write it down and then go after it. The country I grew up in, no one cared about
00:44:25.300
racial politics and postmodernist garbage. It was a strong country. It's a beautiful country. It's a
00:44:30.600
great country. I want that country back. And I look at the suburbs of Chicago where I grew up and it was
00:44:36.360
a phenomenal place and it has completely lost its way. So I'm I'm praying for a revival and a turn
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away from that in a big way. So when I think 4th of July is a great way to do that. So if you're out
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there within the sound of our voices, um, number one, make sure you get your turning point Sass
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drew promo code drew. Oh, Oh, Hey promo code Charlie, but that's okay. I'm good. So obviously this is,
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that's, you know, you know, the best one clearly. So everyone needs to go to SAS. We have the biggest
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It's, it's, uh, it's very, very fun. And it's Florida in summer. It's amazing. Absolutely. No,
00:45:35.600
I mean, we've had, we have a lot to celebrate. We've had huge, huge W's right. Huge in your Supreme
00:45:39.920
court, huge W's right. We didn't get everything we wanted, but we got a lot and Roe v. Wade overturned,
00:45:45.460
right. You know, huge win, huge win for freedom, huge win for the movement, huge win for America.
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This is something that just was not part of our system, right? We need to go back. We have to go
00:45:55.780
back to the way the system was. And I think that's a big, a big, big piece of that. And for everybody
00:46:01.860
out there, you know, it's kind of like what, what I think everybody's just said here, go, go all out on
00:46:07.160
your 4th of July, right? If you see those fireworks at the store, you know, it, get them,
00:46:12.500
light them off, set them off. If you're, if your neighbors complain, set off some more,
00:46:17.120
right. Just, just keep going, right. Fly the American flag, teach your kids about it. Say the,
00:46:23.860
um, uh, you know, say the pledge of allegiance, throw on the Patriot, by the way, that's,
00:46:29.100
that's probably my favorite 4th of July movie. I don't know if you guys have a favorite one for me,
00:46:32.720
Patriot Gibson can't beat that. Well, die hard, but that's a Christmas movie, but that's fine.
00:46:38.260
Separate issue. It's not, it's actually not a Christmas movie, but you know, we can totally
00:46:41.480
a Christmas movie. It's really, it's really not a Christmas movie. It's just, you know,
00:46:44.940
it just happens at Christmas time. Actually. It's a Christmas movie. No, it's just, just cause
00:46:49.520
they have a tree. It doesn't make a Christmas movie. There's Christmas music playing many
00:46:55.680
references to Christmas throughout the entire movie. I mean, I mean, that's like, and that's like,
00:47:00.020
that's like saying that, you know, just because someone's wearing a dress, that makes them a
00:47:03.760
woman. I don't know. Yeah, but it was the date of Christmas. Okay. Because you're saying it
00:47:09.280
identifies as a Christmas movie. No, it's laced with Christmas imagery. It's pronouns. What are
00:47:15.360
its pronouns? And by the way, it's about courage and bravery and sacrifice standing up against
00:47:20.620
existential evil of deception and deceit. It's actually anti-communist, um, very anti-die hard
00:47:26.440
and, uh, anti other things as well. I was going to say anti-German, but that's not exactly what's
00:47:33.080
German communists. There are the bad guys in it. Hans Gruber. Yeah. They're based on their,
00:47:37.880
what they're based on is a real thing. The red army faction in, um, which was a communist front group
00:47:43.740
in the, uh, in West Germany that was funded by the KGB. I did not know that. Yeah. Totally real
00:47:50.880
thing. Totally real thing. I wrote a book about it. You can check it out. Antifa book.com folks,
00:47:54.620
but no, seriously. Um, no, seriously. Uh, thank you so much guys for, for taking the time. We
00:48:00.240
should do this more often. This was, this was actually kind of cool. We should, we could do a
00:48:03.520
show. This should be a show. This could be a thing. Send us your comments. Uh, if you,
00:48:08.520
if you like the show and, uh, and again, just, um, uh, happy 4th of July, happy independence day
00:48:14.420
from myself, the whole team here, turning point USA, human events daily. Thank you. This is really
00:48:19.580
special. And I hope to do it again because I, I intend to still have a country
00:48:24.600
with, uh, with, with as long as I am alive, the United States, and as long as all of us
00:48:29.220
are alive, the United States will exist. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission,