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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:40.720 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

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00:00:50.340 Christ is king.

00:00:51.880 I want to go into Chicago and have this incompetent governor that doesn't want us.

00:00:56.340 Do you know that this weekend, 72 people were shot in Chicago?

00:01:00.440 I'm embarrassed to say it in front of the president of Poland.

00:01:03.280 This morning, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

00:01:07.220 set to testify on Capitol Hill amid turmoil at the CDC and backlash to his vaccine policy.

00:01:13.260 Kennedy defending the direction he has taken the public health agency, saying he's working to restore public trust.

00:01:18.920 Are you saying that a dmRNA vaccine has never been associated with myocarditis or pericarditis in teenagers?

00:01:26.540 I am saying, I am simply.

00:01:27.700 Is that what you're trying to tell us?

00:01:29.140 I am simply trying to say that the people that you have put on that panel after firing the entire.

00:01:36.400 You're evading the question.

00:01:37.640 The state of Florida plans to end all vaccine mandates for children.

00:01:42.560 They say Florida will phase out all of the longstanding vaccine mandates put in place to protect children against diseases like polio and measles.

00:01:51.300 You have expressed many times your frustration and disappointment with Putin, but there's no action.

00:01:57.220 How do you know there's no action?

00:01:58.480 Would you say that putting secondary sanctions on India, the largest purchaser outside of China, they're almost equal, would you say there was no action?

00:02:08.960 That cost hundreds of billions of dollars to Russia.

00:02:12.700 You call that no action?

00:02:13.740 The new president of Poland was here at the White House today, aiming to strengthen his relationship with President Trump.

00:02:18.660 One goal that the president of Poland had going into this was getting reassurance from President Trump that the American soldiers on the ground in Poland will remain there.

00:02:27.000 They've long wanted to have a larger presence.

00:02:29.660 We have some countries that have more, not too many, but no, they'll be staying in Poland.

00:02:34.660 We're very much aligned with Poland.

00:02:36.200 The U.S. is said to, quote, wage war on narco-terrorist organizations.

00:02:40.940 That remark from Secretary of State Marco Rubio just a day after a U.S. military strike on a boat allegedly carrying drugs from Venezuela.

00:02:49.780 The week's events have heightened tensions with Venezuela and President Nicolas Maduro,

00:02:54.840 who President Trump claims is in control of a notorious criminal organization overseeing the drug trade.

00:03:01.080 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.

00:03:04.420 We are here live, Washington, D.C.

00:03:07.680 Today is September 4th, 2025, Anno Domini.

00:03:11.500 As you can see, we are not normally in the place where we film.

00:03:14.780 We're not also in our new studio because we are here on the sidelines of the National Conservatism Conference 2025,

00:03:23.300 which is being held here in the nation's capital,

00:03:26.660 the now freest city and safest city in America, Washington, D.C.

00:03:32.700 So what we've done is we're going to sit down and go through a series of talks,

00:03:39.280 some interviews, some sit-downs, and a plenary address that was given by myself earlier today.

00:03:44.840 We're going to play that in full for you here on the program.

00:03:48.540 And why come to the National Conservatism Conference?

00:03:51.400 Why hold a National Conservatism Conference?

00:03:54.360 What does it even mean?

00:03:55.300 Well, to me, the idea of national conservatism is when we look at all of the issues in our country right now,

00:04:02.520 what is the biggest one?

00:04:03.780 The biggest one are these questions of what are nations?

00:04:07.460 Do nations exist?

00:04:09.040 Well, I say they do.

00:04:10.220 Now, some people will tell you that nations are just economic extraction zones or just lines on a map,

00:04:16.520 but I disagree.

00:04:17.160 I think a nation is its people.

00:04:18.660 I think the people come first, and then the people form a nation.

00:04:22.400 That's clearly what our founding fathers believed.

00:04:24.560 That's clearly what the pioneers on the frontier believed.

00:04:28.280 They believed they were forging a nation.

00:04:30.480 They were fighting for a nation.

00:04:32.100 They were creating something from nothing when they came to America. 0.99

00:04:36.840 That was the pioneer spirit.

00:04:38.920 And that's been lost.

00:04:39.960 That's absolutely been lost.

00:04:41.540 And we have these policies now in place where people like the Mamdani's and the Jaya Pals and the Mohammeds come over 1.00

00:04:50.180 and can take power over our cities and over our people.

00:04:53.500 And obviously, there's a problem with that.

00:04:57.120 There's a problem with policy.

00:04:58.560 There's a problem with thinking.

00:05:00.540 There's a problem with rhetoric.

00:05:02.140 And I'm hoping that we can now begin to address that and do so from a perspective where people understand that this fight is about national identity.

00:05:10.680 And national identity exists because nations exist.

00:05:15.740 And nations are different.

00:05:17.360 That's what the point is of different nations.

00:05:20.900 It goes all the way back to the Bible and the Tower of Babel. 0.85

00:05:24.680 We are not meant to be one global morass of mush the way the globalists would have it.

00:05:31.660 No, we are absolutely diverse and multicultural nations.

00:05:36.540 But you cannot have multiculturalism in one nation or that nation will be torn apart.

00:05:42.800 Diversity isn't our strength.

00:05:44.760 Unity is.

00:05:45.720 So you have to have something to unite around.

00:05:48.360 That's why when I come in and I say, oh, you know, I'm totally against burning the American flag.

00:05:53.400 That's what I mean.

00:05:54.860 I mean having unity around those shared, protected national symbols.

00:05:59.260 And that's why they do deserve a special protection beyond other things that are protected in our society.

00:06:06.420 But let's cut the crap for a second.

00:06:08.600 Obviously, burning a flag is not the same thing as speech.

00:06:13.060 An act of violence and vandalism and burning is not the act of using speech or engaging in speech, writing speech, drawing a cartoon.

00:06:24.140 Obviously, it is something else.

00:06:26.600 And so when we look towards the National Conservatism Conference and when we have the ability to debate these ideas and to sit down and actually have these discussions, we can then learn.

00:06:38.560 And we can see what works, what doesn't work.

00:06:41.340 We can see what is popular, what is not popular.

00:06:43.960 And so one of the great speeches that was held here was, what is an American?

00:06:48.100 I think that actually is a seminal speech and a seminal question for us where we are and who we are.

00:06:55.820 We have to define it because this idea that anyone can magically become an American just because you cross our borders and they hand you a piece of paper is not working.

00:07:05.480 It's not working out for New York.

00:07:06.740 It's not working out for Detroit.

00:07:08.340 It certainly isn't working in Minneapolis.

00:07:10.780 And so hopefully we can be here at the National Conservatism Conference, debate these ideas, hash it out, and come forward working with the Trump administration, who sent a lot of people here today, to be able to figure out what way to go forward to save our country, and hopefully save every country that is facing this problem.

00:07:30.880 We'll be right back.

00:07:32.120 Jack Posobiec.

00:07:32.960 We're here at the National Conservatism Conference, Human Events Daily.

00:07:36.060 Nothing will stand in our way.

00:07:43.840 And our golden age has just begun.

00:07:46.220 This is Human Events with Jack Posobiec.

00:07:47.980 Now it's time for everyone to understand what America First truly means.

00:07:52.640 Welcome to the second American revolution.

00:07:57.700 Well, good morning, ladies and gentlemen of the National Conservatism Conference.

00:08:04.320 My friends, my fellow Americans, to my friends, and especially to my enemies, I have a message for all of you specifically.

00:08:15.120 You are losing and we are winning.

00:08:21.100 Make no mistake.

00:08:23.080 The tide has turned.

00:08:25.360 For years, they told us our cause was hopeless.

00:08:28.440 They told us that borders were just imaginary lines on a map, that crime was the new normal, and that America must bleed its sons and daughters in forever wars all around the world with no end.

00:08:44.120 But today, we stand here with proof in our hands that they were wrong and we were right.

00:08:51.500 Look at our nation's capital, where we are right now.

00:08:56.120 Washington, D.C., once a lawless symbol of decay, has now changed, seemingly overnight.

00:09:03.840 Washington, D.C., as we stand here now, is now the safest city in the United States of America.

00:09:11.260 And how?

00:09:12.340 How did we do this?

00:09:13.800 Because we had the courage to bring the tools at our disposal.

00:09:18.300 We brought in the National Guard.

00:09:20.700 We enforced the law.

00:09:22.320 We gave police the resources that they needed.

00:09:24.900 We said enough was enough.

00:09:27.220 And Washington, D.C., has now gone from a punchline to a model that we will replicate around the country.

00:09:34.740 That is victory.

00:09:37.300 And we know who showed us the way.

00:09:39.640 President Donald J. Trump.

00:09:42.100 The man who stood up and said, America first is not a slogan, it is a mission.

00:09:46.400 And special thanks as well to President Naib Bukele of El Salvador, because you proved that when you fight crime with courage, when you take your nation back from the gangs, safety and order can be restored.

00:10:02.140 These men gave us a blueprint, and it is our job now to carry it forward.

00:10:06.720 And that fight, my friends, is not just here at home.

00:10:10.660 Because for decades, our military strategy was wasted in forever wars, in deserts halfway around the world, chasing ghosts, while our own communities suffered and decayed.

00:10:22.820 But the sea change is here, because we are done dying in wars that never end.

00:10:30.440 Instead, we are bringing the fight to where it belongs, against the cartels that are poisoning our children, that are killing our families, these criminal networks that have been waging direct war on our people every single day.

00:10:45.040 Ladies and gentlemen, the military strikes on the cartels have begun.

00:10:48.880 And let me tell you something, the only thing that I want for Christmas this year is more cartel strikes.

00:10:59.280 Folks, this is what it means to fight for America, and this is what it means to win.

00:11:03.960 But I want to shift gears a little bit, because I want to tell you about something that the globalists never want you to question.

00:11:10.400 And this is a fantasy that has been pushed for years in this country, particularly since the post-war era.

00:11:16.000 And this fantasy is something called the blank slate.

00:11:20.140 Now, what do I mean about the blank slate?

00:11:21.620 Well, blank slaters believe that people all around the world are interchangeable cogs.

00:11:27.060 They say that anyone from anywhere can be dropped in America, and then, poof, overnight, they're a red-blooded American.

00:11:33.720 Ladies and gentlemen, that's not reality.

00:11:36.140 That is reality.

00:11:38.500 Go look at the propaganda.

00:11:40.120 It's everywhere.

00:11:40.760 And it's very simple.

00:11:42.180 But we can see when a great city like New York, our greatest city, is on the precipice of being run by a Zoran Mamdani, I think we realize that something has gone absolutely wrong and something has to give. 1.00

00:11:57.640 Because, as I stand here today, we are less than 10 years away from one of America's great cities being run by a Mohammed. 1.00

00:12:07.880 We know it's coming.

00:12:09.280 We can call it out.

00:12:10.440 And it is time to say, enough is enough.

00:12:13.260 Something has to give.

00:12:14.980 These people are not American. 0.98

00:12:16.900 They do not want to be American. 0.99

00:12:18.820 They do not want to assimilate. 0.96

00:12:20.440 And they are not interested in assimilation.

00:12:22.520 And I say, if they don't want to be part of this country, they can go home.

00:12:29.480 Look around the world.

00:12:31.400 Look around the world.

00:12:32.520 Korea is Korean. 0.99

00:12:34.260 Saudi Arabia is Saudi. 0.59

00:12:35.920 Africa is African.

00:12:37.840 I personally moved to China myself.

00:12:40.820 I lived there for two years.

00:12:42.600 I learned to speak Mandarin Chinese.

00:12:45.260 But take a look at me, folks.

00:12:54.540 I'm not Chinese.

00:12:55.880 I'm just not.

00:12:57.080 I'm never going to be Chinese.

00:12:59.320 It is a fantasy.

00:13:00.820 And if I ran around telling you that I was Chinese, you would call me a lunatic.

00:13:05.320 And you would be right.

00:13:07.680 You see, when it comes to gender fluidity, the right seems to get this right and understands it. 0.50

00:13:12.480 But at the same time, many seem to support this idea of nation and national fluidity.

00:13:18.480 This is based on a discredited fantasy of the blank slate.

00:13:22.060 Nations survive because they defend their identity. 0.85

00:13:24.960 They don't pretend that they are blank slates.

00:13:27.320 And this is serious.

00:13:28.440 Because what happens when we open the floodgates to mass migration?

00:13:32.340 Do we get one united America?

00:13:34.500 No.

00:13:35.200 We get a fractured America.

00:13:36.820 And that's the situation that we've been in for a long time.

00:13:39.280 We get many nations growing inside our own borders.

00:13:42.960 Little Bangladeshes, little Kabuls, little Mogadishus. 0.96

00:13:46.320 Do these mass migrants suddenly erase centuries of culture? 1.00

00:13:49.880 Do they erase their old loyalties?

00:13:51.960 Do they bring those loyalties?

00:13:53.620 No.

00:13:54.020 They bring the loyalties with them.

00:13:55.420 They bring the conflicts with them as well.

00:13:57.240 And then we're told that we have to celebrate it even when it divides us.

00:14:01.880 Well, I will tell you something.

00:14:03.460 Diversity is not our strength.

00:14:05.660 Unity is our strength.

00:14:07.520 And this is a huge problem because we live in a time and age where technology plays a huge role here.

00:14:17.140 Because of this technology, you have the ability for these nations to essentially still live in their home nation.

00:14:24.780 They present themselves as still being members of their home nation.

00:14:29.120 They say this in their own words.

00:14:31.200 Go listen to Omar Fatah up there in Minneapolis.

00:14:35.000 Go listen to some of the things that these people say.

00:14:38.220 They refer to Somalia as their homeland.

00:14:41.220 And I say when they tell you what they believe, you should listen.

00:14:46.200 It's really simple.

00:14:47.620 We don't want entire towns where the American flag has been replaced by a foreign one. 1.00

00:14:52.980 If you want to wave another flag, then you are free to do so on the flight back home.

00:15:00.320 And if you want to burn our flag, you can take a trip to jail.

00:15:04.900 The truth is, it's simple.

00:15:07.020 Some people can assimilate.

00:15:08.580 But many are not interested to.

00:15:10.380 That's not bigotry.

00:15:11.580 That's reality.

00:15:12.920 And pretending otherwise is destroying our nation.

00:15:16.120 The blank slate is dead.

00:15:18.000 Nations are not interchangeable.

00:15:19.500 People are not interchangeable.

00:15:21.600 And America is not just dirt that you stand on and trod beneath your feet.

00:15:26.080 A nation is a culture, a history, our faith, our tradition, and our people.

00:15:30.780 So this is what I say.

00:15:32.300 No more lies.

00:15:33.520 No more blank slate.

00:15:34.880 No more mass migration that turns America into someone else's homeland. 0.95

00:15:39.300 Because what happens if we lose that?

00:15:41.880 Well, if we lose that, then you lose the soul of America.

00:15:44.540 And if you lose the soul of America, then there is no America left to save.

00:15:48.740 And I promise you this.

00:15:50.500 We will never, ever let that happen.

00:15:54.980 Every year, we see millions upon millions of people coming into our country on these temporary visas, worker visas, student visas, tourist visas.

00:16:04.100 And every year, they break their word.

00:16:06.280 They commit fraud.

00:16:07.120 They commit scams.

00:16:08.080 They commit schemes.

00:16:09.420 They break our laws, and they don't go home. 0.93

00:16:12.500 That is not immigration.

00:16:14.480 That is invasion.

00:16:16.700 That is invasion and infiltration.

00:16:19.740 And we're going to tell you who is behind it.

00:16:22.860 Because we're going to name names of the biggest violators of our immigration laws.

00:16:28.240 The three biggest are China, India, and Mexico.

00:16:32.640 China sends in waves of these so-called students. 0.51

00:16:35.340 Every single year, many are tied directly back to the Chinese Communist Party.

00:16:39.220 And you can just open the newspaper or human events in the Post Millennial.

00:16:42.600 I see their editor-in-chief right here in the front row.

00:16:45.140 And you can see stories every single day of the theft of American research, in many cases national security research, in many cases government-funded, U.S. government-funded research that is stolen and sent back to the Chinese Communist Party. 0.69

00:16:58.480 Then we also see these cases where they overstay, they steal our technology, and they treat America like a buffet line.

00:17:05.160 In fact, the Chinese national just recently stole the entire source code of XAI, and I believe handed it over to OpenAI. 0.98

00:17:12.680 Then you have India. 0.95

00:17:14.120 India milks the H-1B system dry, replacing American workers in our own tech companies, undercutting wages. 0.64

00:17:20.840 And they're laughing all the way to the bank.

00:17:22.440 Like, that's why President Trump is coming in with the tariffs now, and people got really mad when I said this online.

00:17:28.860 But, ladies and gentlemen, we've got to end the scam calls, and I think a great way to do that would be tariff every single one of these call centers.

00:17:35.680 We know they're going on overseas.

00:17:37.500 We know exactly where they're coming from.

00:17:39.400 We know how to do this.

00:17:40.440 They say, oh, Jack, you can't do that.

00:17:41.640 That's a good, that's not a service.

00:17:42.840 Okay, midwits, with the word thinking, let's just stop for a second and understand.

00:17:46.760 The United States Constitution authorizes the government to impose duties and imports on any foreign commerce.

00:17:55.240 So guess what?

00:17:55.900 There's nothing in the Constitution that says we can't, and in fact, we are going to.

00:18:02.860 And Mexico, right?

00:18:04.360 And Mexico.

00:18:05.320 Ninety percent of these seasonal visas, the work visas, go to Mexico.

00:18:09.680 And every time, thousands upon thousands of these workers don't ever return.

00:18:14.440 A temporary visa turns into a permanent stay.

00:18:18.200 Ladies and gentlemen, that is not guest work.

00:18:20.500 That's permanent trespass.

00:18:22.040 That is invasion.

00:18:23.060 So I say, you know what?

00:18:24.400 No more.

00:18:25.560 If you cannot abide by our rules, if you cannot follow the laws that have been written down,

00:18:32.260 and if you do not understand that the ability to come to the United States is not a right, it is a privilege,

00:18:38.940 then you lose the privilege because you have broken our rules.

00:18:43.040 So no more endless visas for China, no more endless visas for India, and no more endless visas for Mexico.

00:18:50.460 America is not a revolving door.

00:18:52.780 It is a sovereign nation.

00:18:58.320 It's really simple.

00:18:59.500 I mean, I'm a dad.

00:19:00.540 I say the same thing to my kids.

00:19:01.820 If you abuse the privileges, you'll lose them.

00:19:05.440 It's really that simple, ladies and gentlemen.

00:19:07.280 And so if these countries continue to refuse the rules, the answer is simple.

00:19:11.920 We're going to stop.

00:19:12.880 Stop issuing these visas for China. 0.99

00:19:16.980 Stop issuing visas for India.

00:19:18.920 And stop issuing visas for Mexico.

00:19:21.620 If you can't obey the rules, then you will lose the privilege.

00:19:25.440 It is simple as that.

00:19:27.080 From now on, folks, we will put American workers first.

00:19:31.420 We will put American families first.

00:19:34.180 And we will put the American nation first.

00:19:37.740 Ladies and gentlemen, God bless you all here at the National Conservatism Conference.

00:19:42.900 God bless America and God bless the American people.

00:19:45.840 Thank you very much.

00:19:46.460 Today, you know, you talk about influences.

00:19:58.780 These are influences.

00:20:00.700 And they're friends of mine.

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00:20:04.540 Where's Jack?

00:20:05.500 Jack.

00:20:06.480 He's done a great job.

00:20:08.960 We're back here at Human Events Daily.

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00:21:49.280 Well, folks, we're here at the National Conservatism Conference.

00:21:53.780 I've got to say, this is an incredible event.

00:21:56.640 You've gotten great speakers from members of the U.S. Cabinet, President Trump's Cabinet,

00:22:01.420 and then just a wide array of people who, yes, there's differences of opinion.

00:22:05.280 Not everyone who agrees with me, but that's fine.

00:22:07.820 They're perfectly within their rights to be wrong, and I'm more than happy to correct them when they're being wrong.

00:22:14.700 But, no, there's been a great, I would say, camaraderie of ideas here,

00:22:19.600 and I really appreciate the work that they're doing, the ability they've had.

00:22:22.940 There's been some great debates here, and I like the idea that, yes, some of these ideas are going to be controversial.

00:22:29.360 Absolutely.

00:22:30.400 That's the whole point, because we're figuring out what the problems that we have in our society are right now

00:22:37.300 and what are the best ways to think about them.

00:22:40.140 And one of those people who's really at the forefront of it is Administrator Kelly Loeffler, who's sat down with her today.

00:22:46.600 We're very excited to be here sitting down in Washington, D.C.

00:22:49.680 We're on the sidelines of the National Conservatism Conference, and we're with the Administrator of the SBA, Kelly Loeffler.

00:22:55.300 Great to see you, Kelly.

00:22:56.040 Great to be with you, Jack.

00:22:57.020 We've had a couple of interesting weeks together.

00:22:59.240 You just came back, and we were there at the Polish inauguration.

00:23:02.880 Tell me a little bit about that and then what it was like being with the two presidents.

00:23:06.560 Well, first of all, it was such an incredible honor to lead the U.S. presidential delegation to Poland for President Nowrowski's inauguration,

00:23:15.900 and great to run into you there.

00:23:17.440 It was amazing.

00:23:17.840 It was wonderful.

00:23:18.720 And thank you again for dressing in the Polish colors of red and white today.

00:23:22.060 You're still representing.

00:23:23.840 After the great meeting at the White House yesterday, one month later.

00:23:26.440 No, it was an incredible inauguration, but also a moment in history.

00:23:31.160 I mean, I really think President Trump changed the outcome of this election for the better,

00:23:35.760 for the better of Poland, for the Polish people, and actually for our partnership.

00:23:41.160 They're a model ally, not just in terms of NATO, but in terms of economic, energy, defense,

00:23:47.760 all these important areas that Poland is just punching above their weight, and they're growing. 1.00

00:23:53.980 They're now at a trillion-dollar economy, as President Nowrowski said yesterday.

00:23:59.400 So it's been a really incredible thing to be a part of,

00:24:02.900 and I'm now advocating to all my friends and family to visit Poland.

00:24:07.580 You know, I'm coming from a Polish family, and, you know, you grow up in the U.S., Polish,

00:24:14.860 and, you know, you hear all the schoolyard taunts and all the rest,

00:24:18.320 and I would fire right back.

00:24:19.340 Don't get me wrong.

00:24:20.120 I've got plenty of Italian jokes, Irish jokes, all the rest.

00:24:22.760 But it's, you know, it's really been amazing to see what Poland has done,

00:24:27.880 and to show that it can be done.

00:24:29.560 And it's a testing bed, I think, for so many of these ideas that we see come in in the United States,

00:24:34.860 against public law and order, fighting for your culture and your identity

00:24:39.500 against tremendous external forces and outside pressures,

00:24:43.820 and showing that it can be done, and it can be done with love, and it can be done with faith.

00:24:47.420 Absolutely, and you mentioned faith.

00:24:48.960 I mean, this was what impressed me so much,

00:24:51.020 and I think we're seeing this in America, a return to faith,

00:24:54.180 but an unapologetic embrace of Christianity, of the Catholic faith.

00:24:59.920 And it's so powerful that we went right from the inaugural events

00:25:03.280 into Catholic Mass, and the prayers at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

00:25:11.020 The important grounding of that in that culture really reverberates,

00:25:16.300 you know, back to Pope John Paul's visit to Warsaw.

00:25:19.180 I mean, so much of the history is so rich,

00:25:22.020 and I think we're getting back to our Judeo-Christian foundations in America, 0.69

00:25:26.680 finally, and I think it's going to mean so much to millions of people.

00:25:30.280 Well, I think it's when, you know, these cultural warriors launched all of this.

00:25:35.120 What was the first thing they went after was God in the public square,

00:25:37.560 and they said, whatever you believe is fine in private,

00:25:40.280 but don't bring that out in public.

00:25:41.560 Well, I think that hasn't quite worked out very well for us.

00:25:44.220 It hasn't, and in fact, we're actually taking meaningful steps at the SBA to reverse that.

00:25:48.780 We're seeing it all over the federal government.

00:25:50.540 There's a task force to ensure that Christians and religion and religious freedom

00:25:55.640 are not suppressed anymore in this country,

00:25:58.580 but there was a concerted effort that started probably long before the Obama administration,

00:26:04.160 but, you know, amid that time, and then accelerated during the Biden administration.

00:26:08.360 So we have to be vigilant.

00:26:10.120 I'm grateful to President Trump that he's restoring dialogue about faith

00:26:14.040 and religious freedom in this country.

00:26:15.480 Well, and I know that this is tied to, because your office has really been fighting debanking

00:26:21.100 and this practice that's going on.

00:26:23.740 We've talked to ranchers who are facing this because they don't like the practices of the,

00:26:29.260 to maha or to, you know, certain policies,

00:26:32.340 and we face or people for religious beliefs and freedom of speech issues.

00:26:37.220 How is the SBA fighting this debanking that we've seen going on?

00:26:40.740 Yeah, so President Trump signed an executive order to end debanking,

00:26:45.100 to return fair banking to all Americans.

00:26:48.280 It shouldn't have to even do an EO about that.

00:26:50.580 It should be a business practice.

00:26:53.060 But under Obama, it started with Operation Chokepoint,

00:26:56.840 where they targeted certain businesses

00:26:59.260 and started using reputational risk as a criteria for bank examinations.

00:27:04.320 And so banks got very concerned about banking certain clients,

00:27:08.680 particularly in the 2A space, for example.

00:27:10.740 Gun manufacturers, ammunition, gun stores.

00:27:14.020 But then it spread, obviously, to other places,

00:27:16.700 and it ended up being pro-life or Christians or conservatives.

00:27:21.220 So this was happening over and over.

00:27:23.900 Obviously, under Biden, Chokepoint 2.0 came up.

00:27:27.120 And so now, and we've even seen it at the regulatory level.

00:27:30.520 So OCC, FDIC, the Federal Reserve,

00:27:34.720 were doing bank examinations based on reputational risks of clients.

00:27:38.400 When shareholders tried to sue to stop that,

00:27:42.320 to say we should be maximizing shareholder return and banking for anyone who's a legal business,

00:27:48.440 the Biden administration blocked those shareholder proposals to stop debanking.

00:27:52.060 That's how activist this government got.

00:27:54.060 So we put out a letter to our 5,000 banking clients at the SBA demanding any examples of debanking

00:28:03.940 and to end that practice, which, thankfully, the federal regulators are also working hard to end.

00:28:10.360 And the Federal Reserve Board withdrew their guidance to end evaluation on reputational risks.

00:28:17.560 So we're going to get there.

00:28:19.460 But it's a culture shift that undoes a lot of the damage over the last 16 years.

00:28:24.520 This almost sounds like a, you know, something that the Chinese Communist Party would do.

00:28:53.800 This social credit score, we, of course, saw this in, you know,

00:28:59.020 with some of the wokeness and CRT ratings and the DEI ratings that they were given in the market.

00:29:06.200 And it seems like they were doing the same thing in the banks.

00:29:08.500 That's right.

00:29:09.000 I mean, it's kind of like a greenwashing of everything.

00:29:11.640 Like, hey, look over here.

00:29:12.880 We're green.

00:29:13.920 We're part of the climate circus.

00:29:15.480 Don't look over here.

00:29:16.260 We're suppressing law-abiding Americans' ability to not just grow a business, 0.84

00:29:20.460 but even start a business, to start a philanthropy.

00:29:23.680 I mean, there's well-documented examples of this.

00:29:25.920 In fact, even Elizabeth Warren has said they have 12,000 examples of debanking at the CFPB.

00:29:31.780 She's no fan of the banks, you know, you'd think.

00:29:34.260 No fan.

00:29:34.400 But, you know, at the same time, I think, you know, banks that we have talked to

00:29:39.820 are happy to get out of the politicization business as long as regulators aren't going to ding them.

00:29:45.260 And so we have to make sure that we're not okaying it at the commercial level

00:29:49.400 and we're not okaying it at the government level.

00:29:51.280 We want to shine a bright light on it in the practice and get back to helping America grow.

00:29:55.580 And that's what the SBA is doing.

00:29:57.280 Well, and then I believe the president and I think the first lady herself also experienced some of this.

00:30:01.040 That's right. Absolutely.

00:30:01.680 The family, I was debanked in my campaign.

00:30:05.620 I remember that, yes.

00:30:06.280 So over and over, the same thing happened on the legal side.

00:30:09.800 And to see that happening, you ask yourself, is this a one-off or is this not right?

00:30:14.320 But it snowballed and you just saw cases and cases.

00:30:17.400 So those days are coming to an end.

00:30:19.900 In addition, at the SBA, the Biden administration had blocked religious adjacent businesses

00:30:25.600 from getting federal disaster loans illegally.

00:30:28.900 And so now we've reversed that and we're able to go back and give dozens of faith-based organizations,

00:30:35.520 churches, small businesses, loans that they deserve when they need it most,

00:30:40.460 when they're hit by a flood or a tornado or a hurricane.

00:30:44.320 So all these illegal practices were happening within the federal government.

00:30:48.860 And so many of those businesses are in the Bible Belt,

00:30:50.840 and that's what has been hit over the last couple of years by floods, hurricanes, and everything else lately.

00:30:55.840 And they're the ones that are there for their communities.

00:30:58.100 I was in Texas at the tragic floods that happened over Fourth of July.

00:31:02.820 It's the churches that are helping the communities recover.

00:31:05.700 They're marshaling resources.

00:31:07.600 They're serving as a point of prayer and of providence for people.

00:31:12.540 And the Biden administration had illegally shut that off.

00:31:16.820 So we're back to, you know, the way America runs and should run.

00:31:21.000 Yes, America is a way of life, and obviously we should be always supporting that way of life in every level of government.

00:31:28.340 Talk to me about a little bit more on the business side, though.

00:31:31.000 So SBA is obviously turning things up as well.

00:31:34.700 President Trump has put business front and center.

00:31:36.520 He is a businessman, so I'm sure you have lots of conversations with him about that.

00:31:41.800 What has he given you the directive for, and how are you executing?

00:31:44.640 Well, first of all, it's an incredible honor to serve as President Trump's administrator of the Small Business Administration,

00:31:49.840 because as President Trump says, small business is big business.

00:31:53.080 It's 99% of every business in America is classified as a small business.

00:31:58.040 They create two out of every three new jobs.

00:31:59.820 And, in fact, 98% of all manufacturers in America are small businesses.

00:32:04.780 So it's our defense contractors who rely on those small manufacturers to produce subassemblies and other services.

00:32:13.260 So, really, if we didn't have the 600,000 small manufacturers in this country that employ 5 million Americans

00:32:20.220 and soon to employ millions more with the $15 trillion that President Trump has brought into this country already,

00:32:28.260 we wouldn't be able to build things.

00:32:30.160 And the media narrative is we can't do it.

00:32:32.000 We need to rely on the Chinese Communist Party to build things for us because we're not capable. 1.00

00:32:36.540 That's not true.

00:32:37.320 We sent a man to the moon.

00:32:38.920 We built airplanes.

00:32:40.540 We've created AI and chips and fracking and all the things that power this economy toward exceptionalism that we're returning to.

00:32:49.640 So, without small business, though, that engine of Main Street, of job creation, and really of hope of our communities,

00:32:56.460 like the community I grew up in, I grew up on a farm near a town of 600.

00:33:02.180 There were two businesses in that community besides the grade school,

00:33:06.240 a grain elevator and a union training center.

00:33:11.200 When the jobs left our town, the last business, the union training center, closed.

00:33:15.940 That meant there was no training, there were no apprenticeships, and there were no jobs.

00:33:19.940 And these communities, thousands of them have been left behind.

00:33:23.160 It crushed millions of dreams.

00:33:25.440 And President Trump believes in the American worker.

00:33:27.760 He believes in American industry.

00:33:29.540 He knows that's going to restore this country.

00:33:32.020 And that's why this fair trade effort is so important.

00:33:35.400 It's not just about collecting tariffs.

00:33:37.460 It's about making our country safe and prosperous again because we've been on the receiving side of really predatory trade practices by hundreds of countries around the world.

00:33:48.720 I spent time living and working in Shanghai and in my, you know, even before I joined the military.

00:33:56.500 And I would, so I was, my job, very low level, but, you know, helping U.S. businesses try to sell into the Chinese market.

00:34:03.620 And it's almost impossible.

00:34:05.140 It's almost impossible.

00:34:06.580 That's right.

00:34:06.860 The trade goes one way, and then when you try to bring anything over, we had Hershey's Chocolate at one point, was a client from Pennsylvania, so they put me, you know, kind of on that one.

00:34:17.440 And, or, you know, or even Disney when they were trying to get in.

00:34:20.400 And it was so hard, the hoops you had to jump through to be able to do this, movies and all the rest.

00:34:26.560 But then when it comes to this way around, when we throw up anything, they immediately scream trade war.

00:34:31.600 Yeah, it's not just the monetary trade barriers that collecting a tariff on our pickup trucks, which we cannot sell in Europe, can't come across.

00:34:41.440 It's 40 percent whatever the tariff.

00:34:42.800 It's the non-tariff trade barriers.

00:34:44.580 Like you said, the hoops you have to jump through.

00:34:47.120 And that has really put up walls.

00:34:49.660 And small businesses are the ones that bear the brunt of it.

00:34:52.800 The rest of the world can sell into a small business's market in the United States,

00:34:57.200 but a small business is shut off from the rest of the world because of the non-tariff trade barriers.

00:35:02.680 And that's why President Trump's fair trade policy is so vital to the survival of this country and restoring our way of life.

00:35:09.700 Because if we can't make things here anymore, if we can't compete on a level playing field, what are we supposed to do?

00:35:16.180 Continue to be dependent on the Chinese Communist Party for our pharmaceuticals?

00:35:20.560 No, that's ridiculous.

00:35:21.860 And you mentioned from a national security perspective as well, I can remember so many times,

00:35:25.560 and obviously you can't get into too much of it where, you know, working in Navy intelligence

00:35:29.760 and you're, you know, working on some project and you have this, this, and when I was there,

00:35:33.980 this is sort of when UAVs and drones were really kind of becoming the new wave.

00:35:39.020 Now they're here, obviously.

00:35:41.240 You know, we can't rely on other countries for those things.

00:35:43.800 We need to make them in-house.

00:35:45.080 But every so often you need that particular widget to make your, to make your new gadget work.

00:35:51.060 And you are at the brunt of having to go overseas for that.

00:35:54.880 And that's obviously a huge problem when it comes from a national security perspective,

00:35:58.260 if we're relying on this for our ability to not just have pharmaceuticals,

00:36:03.100 not just have all of our precursors for medicine, but actually our own ability to defend ourselves.

00:36:08.560 That's right.

00:36:09.080 That's why we built what I call Make Onshore and Great Again portal at the SBA.

00:36:13.840 You can go to our website for free.

00:36:15.980 And if you're sourcing things from outside the country, we've provided a free merged, triple merged database of one million domestic suppliers for components,

00:36:26.260 for inputs, to look at maybe there are suppliers domestically that if you're a small business, you can pull from that database.

00:36:33.440 It's at SBA.gov.

00:36:34.760 And those are just some of the things we've done at the SBA in a short amount of time on my kind of 50-state manufacturing tour.

00:36:41.500 But at the same time, we're doing more business than we ever have.

00:36:45.120 We've cut agency headcount almost in half.

00:36:47.700 We've cut the spend in half.

00:36:49.220 We found $3 billion of wasteful contracts.

00:36:52.120 And as a result of getting all of that out of the way, we're doing more for small businesses in Main Street

00:36:57.820 and getting the focus off the woke bureaucracy and picking winners and losers that was happening under the Biden administration.

00:37:04.640 Final question, because I know you've got to run.

00:37:06.900 When you go out, when you're on this tour, when you're talking to manufacturers,

00:37:10.120 when you're talking to these folks that are running the small businesses,

00:37:13.380 how are they responding to all of these changes at the higher levels?

00:37:16.780 Main Street feels heard again.

00:37:18.780 They feel like they have a voice and they feel optimistic.

00:37:21.980 And that's not just what I see anecdotally.

00:37:24.140 Small business optimism is above its 53-year average now and the highest in five months.

00:37:29.800 So they know President Trump's fair trade, low tax, low regulation, pro-worker policy is going to fuel their business.

00:37:36.920 So they're investing more than ever.

00:37:38.580 We're introducing larger loan sizes, new loan programs to fuel Main Street.

00:37:42.840 So they're incredibly optimistic.

00:37:44.220 They're so grateful to President Trump.

00:37:46.580 And it's such a blessing to be able to work for him and with this entire administration.

00:37:50.580 Actually, and I lied.

00:37:51.180 And did, about the last question, did I hear that there was a loan record that you guys just hit?

00:37:56.300 Yeah, we did.

00:37:57.380 So we've surpassed, I believe it's 51,000 loans now.

00:38:01.000 It's the highest in 10 years.

00:38:02.900 And so we are, just like a small business, we are doing more with less.

00:38:07.200 And I think that's happening across the entire federal government.

00:38:09.700 We found so much waste, fraud, and abuse.

00:38:11.840 We found it in USAID.

00:38:13.220 We've revoked their independent contracting authority.

00:38:15.920 They were abusing it.

00:38:16.740 There was massive bribery around a $550 million contract, no longer.

00:38:21.960 So, and this is, all my peers in the cabinet are doing this.

00:38:24.900 Like, we're making sure to hold ourselves and our agencies accountable and get back to working for the American people.

00:38:31.160 Amen.

00:38:31.520 Administrator Luffer, thank you so much for joining us here at Human Rights Daily.

00:38:34.280 Great to be with you.

00:38:34.900 Thank you.

00:39:04.900 How do you like NatCon?

00:39:06.020 I'm finding the questions that are being asked this year really fascinating.

00:39:10.180 We keep getting into what is an American, what is America, and how do we keep our culture?

00:39:17.120 Well, and that's, you know, what I was trying to get at in the speech, to even take that what is an American

00:39:22.200 and kind of go a step further with it to say that if there are people, and there clearly are,

00:39:28.540 who either they cannot assimilate or they're not interested in assimilating or because of technology

00:39:34.880 and all these other factors that they don't have to assimilate, then what are we doing?

00:39:39.880 What are we doing?

00:39:40.640 Yeah, and in your speech this morning, you asked that question.

00:39:43.380 What does it mean if you're an immigrant coming to America, you're not assimilating,

00:39:48.000 and let's say you applied for asylum, but you're still going home to your home country,

00:39:52.660 from whence you apparently fled to visit family for vacations and things like that.

00:39:58.160 Like, what's going on there?

00:39:59.860 What is it about being in America that you want if actually you still have all these ties to your home country?

00:40:05.220 And when you look at the Ellis Island era, people had to leave Europe.

00:40:09.020 They stepped onto the ship, and a lot of people never went back, you know.

00:40:12.580 They never went back even to see their parents.

00:40:15.020 And when you look back even further, the people that left, you know, on the rickety wooden ships,

00:40:18.560 there was never going home again.

00:40:21.000 The whole idea then was we are cutting ties with the old world. 0.98

00:40:24.580 We are embracing the new world.

00:40:25.680 This is why, for example, as we are both descendants of Ellis Islanders, you know,

00:40:30.340 language was one of the first things that, you know, was severed,

00:40:34.580 that they wouldn't teach their kids the old language.

00:40:37.680 You must speak English because we want you to assimilate.

00:40:41.660 We want you to be part of the country.

00:40:42.860 And we know that you learning English without an accent would be the fastest way for you to do that. 0.95

00:40:49.320 And certainly we all knew people growing up who, you know, okay, they speak Italian at home,

00:40:53.340 or there's some Polish here and there, but for the vast majority, no, it was cut off immediately.

00:40:58.600 Yeah, and I think that's a huge part of it because language, you know,

00:41:01.780 in a lot of ways is not just the way we express ourselves, but it's how we formulate our thoughts.

00:41:07.680 You formulate your thoughts in a language, and languages are different, right?

00:41:11.780 I mean, there are some languages that don't have the same concepts as other ones.

00:41:15.700 So you need to be part of, to be part of American culture, you need to understand English.

00:41:20.980 You need to be thinking in English.

00:41:22.640 You need to be thinking in that way.

00:41:24.080 And so I made that little, I made that little gimmick of, you know, saying, I'm not Chinese, you know.

00:41:28.380 Right.

00:41:29.100 And so in Chinese.

00:41:30.100 Someone behind me was like, oh, that's really good Mandarin.

00:41:32.840 Oh, thank you.

00:41:33.660 Whoever that was.

00:41:34.380 But, you know, in Chinese, they, I was going to mention something.

00:41:39.800 It's so simple, but I didn't realize this.

00:41:41.540 You know, they don't have a difference between finger and toe.

00:41:43.760 Really?

00:41:44.320 Right.

00:41:44.560 So they say, they say finger of the hand and finger of the foot.

00:41:48.760 Well, that's, that's a little bizarre.

00:41:50.940 But it's, it's just how they think, right?

00:41:53.220 It's just how they think.

00:41:54.260 Or, or their word for, their word for shark, for example, I always thought was funny.

00:41:58.760 They call it killer fish.

00:42:00.940 And so that's a killer fish.

00:42:02.360 A computer is an electronic brain.

00:42:04.980 Oh, that's not good.

00:42:06.020 I don't like thinking.

00:42:07.240 But that's not an American concept, you know.

00:42:09.340 But again, it's, it's just, it's their language and that's how they do it.

00:42:12.620 And that's how they think.

00:42:13.400 And they try, you can think about it in certain ways.

00:42:15.680 Sure.

00:42:16.200 And, and that's great.

00:42:17.280 But it's, again, it's not American. 0.70

00:42:20.360 Right.

00:42:20.740 And, and that's okay.

00:42:22.620 Right.

00:42:22.940 That's totally fine for China to be Chinese. 0.98

00:42:25.700 I, I would not go to China and tell them they can't be Chinese.

00:42:28.580 But I think that we've come to this strange point.

00:42:31.740 And I, I was hoping to tie, I don't know if I quite got it there yet, but, but tie together

00:42:35.620 these ideas where the right stands so much against the idea of, and the falsity of gender

00:42:41.320 fluidity.

00:42:42.260 Right.

00:42:42.600 And that was interesting.

00:42:43.400 And yet when it comes to national fluidity, nation fluidity, where, oh yeah, yeah, anyone

00:42:48.760 can be, it's, it's just not true.

00:42:51.220 Yeah.

00:42:51.560 I think that that's true too.

00:42:52.860 And it's something that growing up in America in the eighties and nineties, you don't really

00:42:56.660 think about because American culture was at that time so entrenched.

00:43:01.540 English was so entrenched, you know, Christian values were, were bedrock to this country.

00:43:07.240 And what happened over the past, you know, 30 years or so is one by one, these things

00:43:13.240 were cast off by the, through mass migration and by the progressive liberal order of this

00:43:19.400 country, you know, saying that, interesting enough, the same people who were pushing the

00:43:22.860 mass migration, pushing the mass migration, almost like, almost like it was deliberate

00:43:28.780 in some way.

00:43:30.220 Perhaps, perhaps it was intentional.

00:43:32.000 Perhaps it was, you know, a nation destroying exercise.

00:43:35.140 To destabilize our, our country and destabilize Christianity and destabilize the American way 0.99

00:43:40.340 of life.

00:43:40.820 But that, I mean, that would be crazy.

00:43:41.460 And replace it with globalist values.

00:43:43.580 Precisely.

00:43:43.740 And globalist values are nation destroying values.

00:43:46.560 That's like the point of them, right?

00:43:48.860 I was actually, one of the, the lines that I had said, I was chatting about this last night

00:43:54.380 with Tanya, and I said, you know, it'd be like, it'd be like going into the kitchen

00:43:57.540 and saying, we're going to take all the, so, you know, the melting pot, right?

00:44:01.060 Well, the melting pot actually does fall apart when you think about it, because if you went

00:44:04.780 into the kitchen and took everything you had into the kitchen and poured it into a pot,

00:44:08.460 how would it, how would it taste?

00:44:09.620 Oh, it would be bad.

00:44:10.480 You don't need soy sauce and salsa.

00:44:12.100 It would be slopped.

00:44:12.640 It would be absolutely slopped.

00:44:14.140 Definitely, you don't want that.

00:44:15.280 No, you know, or like, or like putting cheese on Chinese food.

00:44:18.000 Right, no, that's, that's bad.

00:44:19.520 What is that?

00:44:19.860 There's not a lot of cheese in Asian cuisine.

00:44:21.760 No, it's not.

00:44:22.220 No, it's just not there.

00:44:23.100 It's just not, again, it's just not generally part of their diet.

00:44:25.960 Something I learned that, you know, when I was in China, okay, great.

00:44:28.340 You know, it's, it's just different.

00:44:29.740 And so you, you realize that when you, you get to a point, you know, at some point, you

00:44:33.620 know, you know, the soup is good, but at some point it just turns into sludge and slop and

00:44:38.840 mush.

00:44:39.600 And do we really want that?

00:44:41.380 Do we want to live in a country like that?

00:44:42.760 Do we want our children to live in a country like that?

00:44:44.340 I don't think so.

00:44:45.020 No, I think we want to, I think we want a strong culture that we can identify.

00:44:49.120 And American culture used to be identifiable the world over.

00:44:52.200 And I think it's, I think that Americans are still identifiable the world over.

00:44:57.460 Like if I go to Italy, obviously I'm not Italian, even though my great grandparents came from

00:45:01.580 there, I'm obviously American, you know, and that's something that I love about us.

00:45:05.860 I love how we, I love how you can always tell it's an American.

00:45:09.500 We've got matching t-shirts.

00:45:10.920 We're too loud.

00:45:11.880 We're wearing sneakers, you know, I love that stuff.

00:45:14.520 That, you know, and one of the, one of the terms that's come up here and it's, you know,

00:45:18.620 and I love the contentiousness of some of these topics that they're not afraid to get

00:45:22.880 into, you know, the, the one guy was up there just talking about household voting.

00:45:26.540 Right.

00:45:26.700 You know, it's, so that's an interesting concept.

00:45:29.160 Although I said, wouldn't that disincentivize marriage?

00:45:31.600 It would disincentivize marriage. 1.00

00:45:32.960 And it's also, you know, you have a situation where then whoever is the loudest mouth and

00:45:37.920 the most controlling gets their vote.

00:45:39.920 I would even say that, you know, in, in mail-in voting, you already have household voting.

00:45:43.700 I agree with that.

00:45:44.680 And I think that's a problem.

00:45:45.720 You know, which absolutely a problem.

00:45:46.680 Somebody's standing over you.

00:45:47.900 The, the, the, the, the idea of the private ballot is, is very sacred.

00:45:52.820 And I think, I think if you mess around with that, you're, you're really causing a lot

00:45:56.340 of problems, which we saw in 2020.

00:45:58.220 Right.

00:45:58.580 And so the, but I love that we have these ideas.

00:46:01.560 And so there's, there's this new phrase that's come up, the paper American or the paperwork

00:46:05.120 American, you know, so, and, and Zora Mandami is this perfect example of what we're talking 0.78

00:46:10.200 about.

00:46:10.560 Someone who's come to this country. 1.00

00:46:12.740 He wasn't born here.

00:46:14.020 He's been a citizen for about five minutes.

00:46:15.580 And he immediately starts talking about direct communism.

00:46:19.960 Right.

00:46:20.480 And his parents are globalists.

00:46:22.200 They're complete globalists.

00:46:24.160 I mean, like quintessential.

00:46:25.340 They're rich.

00:46:26.020 They have a compound in Uganda.

00:46:27.760 His dad teaches like anti-colonialism at Columbia.

00:46:30.620 Yeah.

00:46:31.620 Ludicrous.

00:46:32.620 Hmm.

00:46:33.620 Anti-colonialism at Columbia.

00:46:34.620 Hmm.

00:46:35.620 I don't know.

00:46:36.620 Does that remind me of a certain former president that, who, of, of questionable Americanism.

00:46:39.620 Right.

00:46:40.620 Himself, shall we say.

00:46:41.620 You know, but, but it's, it's, I think that as a movement and as, as a people that's going

00:46:48.320 through these conversations and they're tough, history is complicated.

00:46:51.620 Mm-hmm.

00:46:52.620 History is not a straight line.

00:46:53.620 You know, it is, it's a tapestry and it's a story and it's, it's all kind of works together.

00:46:58.620 But, you know, to answer this question, what is an American, I think it goes to the center

00:47:02.620 because our policies flow from these questions.

00:47:05.620 Mm-hmm.

00:47:06.620 When we had this idea in, say, the 1960s that America was a nation of immigrants.

00:47:11.620 Well, what did we get immediately after that was the 1965 Immigration Act.

00:47:15.620 Right.

00:47:16.620 Which started the mass migration.

00:47:18.620 And so I really think that when you look at the upheavals in American society, certainly

00:47:22.620 the upheavals all across Europe.

00:47:24.620 Mm-hmm.

00:47:25.620 The election in Poland, which is predicated on the idea of blocking mass migration, it has 0.99

00:47:29.620 become the question of our day.

00:47:30.620 Yeah.

00:47:31.620 And another thing, I was talking to Jonathan Kieperman at Passage Press about this.

00:47:35.620 Lomaz.

00:47:36.620 Yeah.

00:47:37.620 About what is American culture and how do we capture what that is.

00:47:40.620 And we were discussing, you know, bringing, bringing the founding stories, you know, making

00:47:46.620 the stories of our founding these myths, these legends, these true history.

00:47:50.620 The frontierism.

00:47:51.620 The frontierism.

00:47:52.620 The frontierism.

00:47:53.620 The, like, we've lost everything about the wagon train.

00:47:56.620 Right?

00:47:57.620 Why have we lost that?

00:47:58.620 I don't think anybody knows about the wagon train anymore is Oregon Trail.

00:48:00.620 You say you need to bring it back, Oregon Trail.

00:48:01.620 We've got to bring it back.

00:48:02.620 You know, maybe we should.

00:48:03.620 Bring it back.

00:48:04.620 Oregon Trail, the series.

00:48:05.620 But we need to talk about these things.

00:48:06.620 Folks, we're going to end on that.

00:48:07.620 Bring back Oregon Trail from, you know, from, by the way, a member of Generation Oregon

00:48:12.620 Trail.

00:48:13.620 Okay?

00:48:14.620 Libby, tell people where they can find you.

00:48:15.620 You can find me on Twitter at LibbyEmmons, and you should check out everything we're doing

00:48:18.620 at ThePostMillennial.com and HumandFence.com.

00:48:20.620 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have met with us until we're in short.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - September 04, 2025

America Is Not A Revolving Door - Live From NatCon

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