America Is Not A Revolving Door - Live From NatCon
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Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is set to testify on Capitol Hill amid turmoil at the CDC and backlash to his vaccine policy. The new President of Poland was here at the White House today, aiming to strengthen his relationship with President Trump. The U.S. is said to wage war on narco-terrorist organizations. The State of Florida plans to end all vaccine mandates for children.
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A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.
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I want to go into Chicago and have this incompetent governor that doesn't want us.
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Do you know that this weekend, 72 people were shot in Chicago?
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I'm embarrassed to say it in front of the president of Poland.
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This morning, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
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set to testify on Capitol Hill amid turmoil at the CDC and backlash to his vaccine policy.
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Kennedy defending the direction he has taken the public health agency, saying he's working to restore public trust.
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Are you saying that a dmRNA vaccine has never been associated with myocarditis or pericarditis in teenagers?
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I am simply trying to say that the people that you have put on that panel after firing the entire.
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The state of Florida plans to end all vaccine mandates for children.
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They say Florida will phase out all of the longstanding vaccine mandates put in place to protect children against diseases like polio and measles.
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You have expressed many times your frustration and disappointment with Putin, but there's no action.
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Would you say that putting secondary sanctions on India, the largest purchaser outside of China, they're almost equal, would you say there was no action?
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That cost hundreds of billions of dollars to Russia.
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The new president of Poland was here at the White House today, aiming to strengthen his relationship with President Trump.
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One goal that the president of Poland had going into this was getting reassurance from President Trump that the American soldiers on the ground in Poland will remain there.
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We have some countries that have more, not too many, but no, they'll be staying in Poland.
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The U.S. is said to, quote, wage war on narco-terrorist organizations.
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That remark from Secretary of State Marco Rubio just a day after a U.S. military strike on a boat allegedly carrying drugs from Venezuela.
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The week's events have heightened tensions with Venezuela and President Nicolas Maduro,
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who President Trump claims is in control of a notorious criminal organization overseeing the drug trade.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
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As you can see, we are not normally in the place where we film.
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We're not also in our new studio because we are here on the sidelines of the National Conservatism Conference 2025,
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which is being held here in the nation's capital,
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the now freest city and safest city in America, Washington, D.C.
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So what we've done is we're going to sit down and go through a series of talks,
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some interviews, some sit-downs, and a plenary address that was given by myself earlier today.
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We're going to play that in full for you here on the program.
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And why come to the National Conservatism Conference?
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Well, to me, the idea of national conservatism is when we look at all of the issues in our country right now,
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The biggest one are these questions of what are nations?
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Now, some people will tell you that nations are just economic extraction zones or just lines on a map,
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I think the people come first, and then the people form a nation.
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That's clearly what our founding fathers believed.
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That's clearly what the pioneers on the frontier believed.
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They were creating something from nothing when they came to America.
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And we have these policies now in place where people like the Mamdani's and the Jaya Pals and the Mohammeds come over
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and can take power over our cities and over our people.
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And I'm hoping that we can now begin to address that and do so from a perspective where people understand that this fight is about national identity.
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And national identity exists because nations exist.
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It goes all the way back to the Bible and the Tower of Babel.
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We are not meant to be one global morass of mush the way the globalists would have it.
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No, we are absolutely diverse and multicultural nations.
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But you cannot have multiculturalism in one nation or that nation will be torn apart.
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That's why when I come in and I say, oh, you know, I'm totally against burning the American flag.
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I mean having unity around those shared, protected national symbols.
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And that's why they do deserve a special protection beyond other things that are protected in our society.
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Obviously, burning a flag is not the same thing as speech.
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An act of violence and vandalism and burning is not the act of using speech or engaging in speech, writing speech, drawing a cartoon.
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And so when we look towards the National Conservatism Conference and when we have the ability to debate these ideas and to sit down and actually have these discussions, we can then learn.
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We can see what is popular, what is not popular.
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And so one of the great speeches that was held here was, what is an American?
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I think that actually is a seminal speech and a seminal question for us where we are and who we are.
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We have to define it because this idea that anyone can magically become an American just because you cross our borders and they hand you a piece of paper is not working.
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And so hopefully we can be here at the National Conservatism Conference, debate these ideas, hash it out, and come forward working with the Trump administration, who sent a lot of people here today, to be able to figure out what way to go forward to save our country, and hopefully save every country that is facing this problem.
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We're here at the National Conservatism Conference, Human Events Daily.
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Now it's time for everyone to understand what America First truly means.
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Well, good morning, ladies and gentlemen of the National Conservatism Conference.
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My friends, my fellow Americans, to my friends, and especially to my enemies, I have a message for all of you specifically.
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For years, they told us our cause was hopeless.
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They told us that borders were just imaginary lines on a map, that crime was the new normal, and that America must bleed its sons and daughters in forever wars all around the world with no end.
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But today, we stand here with proof in our hands that they were wrong and we were right.
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Look at our nation's capital, where we are right now.
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Washington, D.C., once a lawless symbol of decay, has now changed, seemingly overnight.
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Washington, D.C., as we stand here now, is now the safest city in the United States of America.
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Because we had the courage to bring the tools at our disposal.
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And Washington, D.C., has now gone from a punchline to a model that we will replicate around the country.
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The man who stood up and said, America first is not a slogan, it is a mission.
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And special thanks as well to President Naib Bukele of El Salvador, because you proved that when you fight crime with courage, when you take your nation back from the gangs, safety and order can be restored.
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These men gave us a blueprint, and it is our job now to carry it forward.
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And that fight, my friends, is not just here at home.
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Because for decades, our military strategy was wasted in forever wars, in deserts halfway around the world, chasing ghosts, while our own communities suffered and decayed.
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But the sea change is here, because we are done dying in wars that never end.
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Instead, we are bringing the fight to where it belongs, against the cartels that are poisoning our children, that are killing our families, these criminal networks that have been waging direct war on our people every single day.
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Ladies and gentlemen, the military strikes on the cartels have begun.
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And let me tell you something, the only thing that I want for Christmas this year is more cartel strikes.
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Folks, this is what it means to fight for America, and this is what it means to win.
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But I want to shift gears a little bit, because I want to tell you about something that the globalists never want you to question.
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And this is a fantasy that has been pushed for years in this country, particularly since the post-war era.
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And this fantasy is something called the blank slate.
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Well, blank slaters believe that people all around the world are interchangeable cogs.
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They say that anyone from anywhere can be dropped in America, and then, poof, overnight, they're a red-blooded American.
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But we can see when a great city like New York, our greatest city, is on the precipice of being run by a Zoran Mamdani, I think we realize that something has gone absolutely wrong and something has to give.
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Because, as I stand here today, we are less than 10 years away from one of America's great cities being run by a Mohammed.
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And I say, if they don't want to be part of this country, they can go home.
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And if I ran around telling you that I was Chinese, you would call me a lunatic.
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You see, when it comes to gender fluidity, the right seems to get this right and understands it.
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But at the same time, many seem to support this idea of nation and national fluidity.
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This is based on a discredited fantasy of the blank slate.
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Nations survive because they defend their identity.
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Because what happens when we open the floodgates to mass migration?
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And that's the situation that we've been in for a long time.
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We get many nations growing inside our own borders.
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Little Bangladeshes, little Kabuls, little Mogadishus.
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Do these mass migrants suddenly erase centuries of culture?
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And then we're told that we have to celebrate it even when it divides us.
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And this is a huge problem because we live in a time and age where technology plays a huge role here.
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Because of this technology, you have the ability for these nations to essentially still live in their home nation.
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They present themselves as still being members of their home nation.
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Go listen to Omar Fatah up there in Minneapolis.
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Go listen to some of the things that these people say.
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And I say when they tell you what they believe, you should listen.
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We don't want entire towns where the American flag has been replaced by a foreign one.
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If you want to wave another flag, then you are free to do so on the flight back home.
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And if you want to burn our flag, you can take a trip to jail.
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And pretending otherwise is destroying our nation.
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And America is not just dirt that you stand on and trod beneath your feet.
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A nation is a culture, a history, our faith, our tradition, and our people.
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No more mass migration that turns America into someone else's homeland.
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Well, if we lose that, then you lose the soul of America.
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And if you lose the soul of America, then there is no America left to save.
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Every year, we see millions upon millions of people coming into our country on these temporary visas, worker visas, student visas, tourist visas.
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Because we're going to name names of the biggest violators of our immigration laws.
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The three biggest are China, India, and Mexico.
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China sends in waves of these so-called students.
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Every single year, many are tied directly back to the Chinese Communist Party.
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And you can just open the newspaper or human events in the Post Millennial.
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I see their editor-in-chief right here in the front row.
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And you can see stories every single day of the theft of American research, in many cases national security research, in many cases government-funded, U.S. government-funded research that is stolen and sent back to the Chinese Communist Party.
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Then we also see these cases where they overstay, they steal our technology, and they treat America like a buffet line.
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In fact, the Chinese national just recently stole the entire source code of XAI, and I believe handed it over to OpenAI.
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India milks the H-1B system dry, replacing American workers in our own tech companies, undercutting wages.
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Like, that's why President Trump is coming in with the tariffs now, and people got really mad when I said this online.
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But, ladies and gentlemen, we've got to end the scam calls, and I think a great way to do that would be tariff every single one of these call centers.
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Okay, midwits, with the word thinking, let's just stop for a second and understand.
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The United States Constitution authorizes the government to impose duties and imports on any foreign commerce.
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There's nothing in the Constitution that says we can't, and in fact, we are going to.
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Ninety percent of these seasonal visas, the work visas, go to Mexico.
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And every time, thousands upon thousands of these workers don't ever return.
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If you cannot abide by our rules, if you cannot follow the laws that have been written down,
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and if you do not understand that the ability to come to the United States is not a right, it is a privilege,
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then you lose the privilege because you have broken our rules.
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So no more endless visas for China, no more endless visas for India, and no more endless visas for Mexico.
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And so if these countries continue to refuse the rules, the answer is simple.
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If you can't obey the rules, then you will lose the privilege.
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From now on, folks, we will put American workers first.
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Ladies and gentlemen, God bless you all here at the National Conservatism Conference.
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God bless America and God bless the American people.
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As you can see, we're on the sidelines of the National Conservatism Conference here in Washington.
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Well, folks, we're here at the National Conservatism Conference.
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You've gotten great speakers from members of the U.S. Cabinet, President Trump's Cabinet,
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and then just a wide array of people who, yes, there's differences of opinion.
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Not everyone who agrees with me, but that's fine.
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They're perfectly within their rights to be wrong, and I'm more than happy to correct them when they're being wrong.
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But, no, there's been a great, I would say, camaraderie of ideas here,
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and I really appreciate the work that they're doing, the ability they've had.
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There's been some great debates here, and I like the idea that, yes, some of these ideas are going to be controversial.
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That's the whole point, because we're figuring out what the problems that we have in our society are right now
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and what are the best ways to think about them.
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And one of those people who's really at the forefront of it is Administrator Kelly Loeffler, who's sat down with her today.
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We're very excited to be here sitting down in Washington, D.C.
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We're on the sidelines of the National Conservatism Conference, and we're with the Administrator of the SBA, Kelly Loeffler.
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We've had a couple of interesting weeks together.
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You just came back, and we were there at the Polish inauguration.
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Tell me a little bit about that and then what it was like being with the two presidents.
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Well, first of all, it was such an incredible honor to lead the U.S. presidential delegation to Poland for President Nowrowski's inauguration,
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And thank you again for dressing in the Polish colors of red and white today.
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After the great meeting at the White House yesterday, one month later.
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No, it was an incredible inauguration, but also a moment in history.
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I mean, I really think President Trump changed the outcome of this election for the better,
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for the better of Poland, for the Polish people, and actually for our partnership.
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They're a model ally, not just in terms of NATO, but in terms of economic, energy, defense,
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all these important areas that Poland is just punching above their weight, and they're growing.
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They're now at a trillion-dollar economy, as President Nowrowski said yesterday.
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So it's been a really incredible thing to be a part of,
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and I'm now advocating to all my friends and family to visit Poland.
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You know, I'm coming from a Polish family, and, you know, you grow up in the U.S., Polish,
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and, you know, you hear all the schoolyard taunts and all the rest,
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I've got plenty of Italian jokes, Irish jokes, all the rest.
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But it's, you know, it's really been amazing to see what Poland has done,
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And it's a testing bed, I think, for so many of these ideas that we see come in in the United States,
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against public law and order, fighting for your culture and your identity
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against tremendous external forces and outside pressures,
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and showing that it can be done, and it can be done with love, and it can be done with faith.
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and I think we're seeing this in America, a return to faith,
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but an unapologetic embrace of Christianity, of the Catholic faith.
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And it's so powerful that we went right from the inaugural events
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into Catholic Mass, and the prayers at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.
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The important grounding of that in that culture really reverberates,
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you know, back to Pope John Paul's visit to Warsaw.
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and I think we're getting back to our Judeo-Christian foundations in America,
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finally, and I think it's going to mean so much to millions of people.
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Well, I think it's when, you know, these cultural warriors launched all of this.
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What was the first thing they went after was God in the public square,
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and they said, whatever you believe is fine in private,
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Well, I think that hasn't quite worked out very well for us.
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It hasn't, and in fact, we're actually taking meaningful steps at the SBA to reverse that.
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We're seeing it all over the federal government.
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There's a task force to ensure that Christians and religion and religious freedom
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but there was a concerted effort that started probably long before the Obama administration,
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but, you know, amid that time, and then accelerated during the Biden administration.
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I'm grateful to President Trump that he's restoring dialogue about faith
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Well, and I know that this is tied to, because your office has really been fighting debanking
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We've talked to ranchers who are facing this because they don't like the practices of the,
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and we face or people for religious beliefs and freedom of speech issues.
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How is the SBA fighting this debanking that we've seen going on?
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Yeah, so President Trump signed an executive order to end debanking,
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But under Obama, it started with Operation Chokepoint,
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and started using reputational risk as a criteria for bank examinations.
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And so banks got very concerned about banking certain clients,
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But then it spread, obviously, to other places,
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and it ended up being pro-life or Christians or conservatives.
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Obviously, under Biden, Chokepoint 2.0 came up.
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And so now, and we've even seen it at the regulatory level.
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were doing bank examinations based on reputational risks of clients.
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to say we should be maximizing shareholder return and banking for anyone who's a legal business,
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the Biden administration blocked those shareholder proposals to stop debanking.
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So we put out a letter to our 5,000 banking clients at the SBA demanding any examples of debanking
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and to end that practice, which, thankfully, the federal regulators are also working hard to end.
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And the Federal Reserve Board withdrew their guidance to end evaluation on reputational risks.
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But it's a culture shift that undoes a lot of the damage over the last 16 years.
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This almost sounds like a, you know, something that the Chinese Communist Party would do.
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This social credit score, we, of course, saw this in, you know,
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with some of the wokeness and CRT ratings and the DEI ratings that they were given in the market.
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And it seems like they were doing the same thing in the banks.
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I mean, it's kind of like a greenwashing of everything.
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We're suppressing law-abiding Americans' ability to not just grow a business,
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but even start a business, to start a philanthropy.
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I mean, there's well-documented examples of this.
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In fact, even Elizabeth Warren has said they have 12,000 examples of debanking at the CFPB.
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She's no fan of the banks, you know, you'd think.
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But, you know, at the same time, I think, you know, banks that we have talked to
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are happy to get out of the politicization business as long as regulators aren't going to ding them.
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And so we have to make sure that we're not okaying it at the commercial level
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and we're not okaying it at the government level.
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We want to shine a bright light on it in the practice and get back to helping America grow.
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Well, and then I believe the president and I think the first lady herself also experienced some of this.
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So over and over, the same thing happened on the legal side.
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And to see that happening, you ask yourself, is this a one-off or is this not right?
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But it snowballed and you just saw cases and cases.
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In addition, at the SBA, the Biden administration had blocked religious adjacent businesses
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And so now we've reversed that and we're able to go back and give dozens of faith-based organizations,
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churches, small businesses, loans that they deserve when they need it most,
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when they're hit by a flood or a tornado or a hurricane.
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So all these illegal practices were happening within the federal government.
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And so many of those businesses are in the Bible Belt,
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and that's what has been hit over the last couple of years by floods, hurricanes, and everything else lately.
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And they're the ones that are there for their communities.
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I was in Texas at the tragic floods that happened over Fourth of July.
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It's the churches that are helping the communities recover.
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They're serving as a point of prayer and of providence for people.
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And the Biden administration had illegally shut that off.
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So we're back to, you know, the way America runs and should run.
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Yes, America is a way of life, and obviously we should be always supporting that way of life in every level of government.
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Talk to me about a little bit more on the business side, though.
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President Trump has put business front and center.
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He is a businessman, so I'm sure you have lots of conversations with him about that.
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What has he given you the directive for, and how are you executing?
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Well, first of all, it's an incredible honor to serve as President Trump's administrator of the Small Business Administration,
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because as President Trump says, small business is big business.
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It's 99% of every business in America is classified as a small business.
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And, in fact, 98% of all manufacturers in America are small businesses.
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So it's our defense contractors who rely on those small manufacturers to produce subassemblies and other services.
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So, really, if we didn't have the 600,000 small manufacturers in this country that employ 5 million Americans
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and soon to employ millions more with the $15 trillion that President Trump has brought into this country already,
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We need to rely on the Chinese Communist Party to build things for us because we're not capable.
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We've created AI and chips and fracking and all the things that power this economy toward exceptionalism that we're returning to.
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So, without small business, though, that engine of Main Street, of job creation, and really of hope of our communities,
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like the community I grew up in, I grew up on a farm near a town of 600.
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There were two businesses in that community besides the grade school,
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When the jobs left our town, the last business, the union training center, closed.
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That meant there was no training, there were no apprenticeships, and there were no jobs.
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And these communities, thousands of them have been left behind.
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And President Trump believes in the American worker.
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And that's why this fair trade effort is so important.
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It's about making our country safe and prosperous again because we've been on the receiving side of really predatory trade practices by hundreds of countries around the world.
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I spent time living and working in Shanghai and in my, you know, even before I joined the military.
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And I would, so I was, my job, very low level, but, you know, helping U.S. businesses try to sell into the Chinese market.
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The trade goes one way, and then when you try to bring anything over, we had Hershey's Chocolate at one point, was a client from Pennsylvania, so they put me, you know, kind of on that one.
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And, or, you know, or even Disney when they were trying to get in.
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And it was so hard, the hoops you had to jump through to be able to do this, movies and all the rest.
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But then when it comes to this way around, when we throw up anything, they immediately scream trade war.
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Yeah, it's not just the monetary trade barriers that collecting a tariff on our pickup trucks, which we cannot sell in Europe, can't come across.
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Like you said, the hoops you have to jump through.
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And small businesses are the ones that bear the brunt of it.
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The rest of the world can sell into a small business's market in the United States,
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but a small business is shut off from the rest of the world because of the non-tariff trade barriers.
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And that's why President Trump's fair trade policy is so vital to the survival of this country and restoring our way of life.
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Because if we can't make things here anymore, if we can't compete on a level playing field, what are we supposed to do?
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Continue to be dependent on the Chinese Communist Party for our pharmaceuticals?
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And you mentioned from a national security perspective as well, I can remember so many times,
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and obviously you can't get into too much of it where, you know, working in Navy intelligence
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and you're, you know, working on some project and you have this, this, and when I was there,
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this is sort of when UAVs and drones were really kind of becoming the new wave.
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You know, we can't rely on other countries for those things.
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But every so often you need that particular widget to make your, to make your new gadget work.
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And you are at the brunt of having to go overseas for that.
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And that's obviously a huge problem when it comes from a national security perspective,
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if we're relying on this for our ability to not just have pharmaceuticals,
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not just have all of our precursors for medicine, but actually our own ability to defend ourselves.
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That's why we built what I call Make Onshore and Great Again portal at the SBA.
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And if you're sourcing things from outside the country, we've provided a free merged, triple merged database of one million domestic suppliers for components,
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for inputs, to look at maybe there are suppliers domestically that if you're a small business, you can pull from that database.
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And those are just some of the things we've done at the SBA in a short amount of time on my kind of 50-state manufacturing tour.
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But at the same time, we're doing more business than we ever have.
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And as a result of getting all of that out of the way, we're doing more for small businesses in Main Street
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and getting the focus off the woke bureaucracy and picking winners and losers that was happening under the Biden administration.
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Final question, because I know you've got to run.
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When you go out, when you're on this tour, when you're talking to manufacturers,
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when you're talking to these folks that are running the small businesses,
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how are they responding to all of these changes at the higher levels?
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They feel like they have a voice and they feel optimistic.
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Small business optimism is above its 53-year average now and the highest in five months.
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So they know President Trump's fair trade, low tax, low regulation, pro-worker policy is going to fuel their business.
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We're introducing larger loan sizes, new loan programs to fuel Main Street.
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And it's such a blessing to be able to work for him and with this entire administration.
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And did, about the last question, did I hear that there was a loan record that you guys just hit?
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So we've surpassed, I believe it's 51,000 loans now.
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And so we are, just like a small business, we are doing more with less.
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And I think that's happening across the entire federal government.
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We've revoked their independent contracting authority.
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There was massive bribery around a $550 million contract, no longer.
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So, and this is, all my peers in the cabinet are doing this.
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Like, we're making sure to hold ourselves and our agencies accountable and get back to working for the American people.
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Administrator Luffer, thank you so much for joining us here at Human Rights Daily.
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I'm finding the questions that are being asked this year really fascinating.
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We keep getting into what is an American, what is America, and how do we keep our culture?
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Well, and that's, you know, what I was trying to get at in the speech, to even take that what is an American
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and kind of go a step further with it to say that if there are people, and there clearly are,
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who either they cannot assimilate or they're not interested in assimilating or because of technology
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and all these other factors that they don't have to assimilate, then what are we doing?
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Yeah, and in your speech this morning, you asked that question.
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What does it mean if you're an immigrant coming to America, you're not assimilating,
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and let's say you applied for asylum, but you're still going home to your home country,
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from whence you apparently fled to visit family for vacations and things like that.
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What is it about being in America that you want if actually you still have all these ties to your home country?
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And when you look at the Ellis Island era, people had to leave Europe.
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They stepped onto the ship, and a lot of people never went back, you know.
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They never went back even to see their parents.
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And when you look back even further, the people that left, you know, on the rickety wooden ships,
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The whole idea then was we are cutting ties with the old world.
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This is why, for example, as we are both descendants of Ellis Islanders, you know,
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language was one of the first things that, you know, was severed,
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that they wouldn't teach their kids the old language.
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You must speak English because we want you to assimilate.
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And we know that you learning English without an accent would be the fastest way for you to do that.
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And certainly we all knew people growing up who, you know, okay, they speak Italian at home,
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or there's some Polish here and there, but for the vast majority, no, it was cut off immediately.
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Yeah, and I think that's a huge part of it because language, you know,
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in a lot of ways is not just the way we express ourselves, but it's how we formulate our thoughts.
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You formulate your thoughts in a language, and languages are different, right?
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I mean, there are some languages that don't have the same concepts as other ones.
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So you need to be part of, to be part of American culture, you need to understand English.
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And so I made that little, I made that little gimmick of, you know, saying, I'm not Chinese, you know.
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Someone behind me was like, oh, that's really good Mandarin.
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But, you know, in Chinese, they, I was going to mention something.
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You know, they don't have a difference between finger and toe.
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So they say, they say finger of the hand and finger of the foot.
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Or, or their word for, their word for shark, for example, I always thought was funny.
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But again, it's, it's just, it's their language and that's how they do it.
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And they try, you can think about it in certain ways.
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I, I would not go to China and tell them they can't be Chinese.
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But I think that we've come to this strange point.
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And I, I was hoping to tie, I don't know if I quite got it there yet, but, but tie together
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these ideas where the right stands so much against the idea of, and the falsity of gender
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And yet when it comes to national fluidity, nation fluidity, where, oh yeah, yeah, anyone
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And it's something that growing up in America in the eighties and nineties, you don't really
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think about because American culture was at that time so entrenched.
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English was so entrenched, you know, Christian values were, were bedrock to this country.
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And what happened over the past, you know, 30 years or so is one by one, these things
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were cast off by the, through mass migration and by the progressive liberal order of this
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country, you know, saying that, interesting enough, the same people who were pushing the
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mass migration, pushing the mass migration, almost like, almost like it was deliberate
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Perhaps it was, you know, a nation destroying exercise.
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To destabilize our, our country and destabilize Christianity and destabilize the American way
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And globalist values are nation destroying values.
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I was actually, one of the, the lines that I had said, I was chatting about this last night
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with Tanya, and I said, you know, it'd be like, it'd be like going into the kitchen
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and saying, we're going to take all the, so, you know, the melting pot, right?
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Well, the melting pot actually does fall apart when you think about it, because if you went
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into the kitchen and took everything you had into the kitchen and poured it into a pot,
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No, you know, or like, or like putting cheese on Chinese food.
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It's just not, again, it's just not generally part of their diet.
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Something I learned that, you know, when I was in China, okay, great.
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And so you, you realize that when you, you get to a point, you know, at some point, you
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know, you know, the soup is good, but at some point it just turns into sludge and slop and
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Do we want our children to live in a country like that?
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No, I think we want to, I think we want a strong culture that we can identify.
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And American culture used to be identifiable the world over.
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And I think it's, I think that Americans are still identifiable the world over.
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Like if I go to Italy, obviously I'm not Italian, even though my great grandparents came from
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there, I'm obviously American, you know, and that's something that I love about us.
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I love how we, I love how you can always tell it's an American.
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We're wearing sneakers, you know, I love that stuff.
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That, you know, and one of the, one of the terms that's come up here and it's, you know,
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and I love the contentiousness of some of these topics that they're not afraid to get
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into, you know, the, the one guy was up there just talking about household voting.
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You know, it's, so that's an interesting concept.
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Although I said, wouldn't that disincentivize marriage?
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And it's also, you know, you have a situation where then whoever is the loudest mouth and
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I would even say that, you know, in, in mail-in voting, you already have household voting.
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The, the, the, the, the idea of the private ballot is, is very sacred.
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And I think, I think if you mess around with that, you're, you're really causing a lot
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And so the, but I love that we have these ideas.
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And so there's, there's this new phrase that's come up, the paper American or the paperwork
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American, you know, so, and, and Zora Mandami is this perfect example of what we're talking
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And he immediately starts talking about direct communism.
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His dad teaches like anti-colonialism at Columbia.
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Does that remind me of a certain former president that, who, of, of questionable Americanism.
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You know, but, but it's, it's, I think that as a movement and as, as a people that's going
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through these conversations and they're tough, history is complicated.
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You know, it is, it's a tapestry and it's a story and it's, it's all kind of works together.
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But, you know, to answer this question, what is an American, I think it goes to the center
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because our policies flow from these questions.
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When we had this idea in, say, the 1960s that America was a nation of immigrants.
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Well, what did we get immediately after that was the 1965 Immigration Act.
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And so I really think that when you look at the upheavals in American society, certainly
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The election in Poland, which is predicated on the idea of blocking mass migration, it has
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And another thing, I was talking to Jonathan Kieperman at Passage Press about this.
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About what is American culture and how do we capture what that is.
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And we were discussing, you know, bringing, bringing the founding stories, you know, making
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the stories of our founding these myths, these legends, these true history.
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The, like, we've lost everything about the wagon train.
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I don't think anybody knows about the wagon train anymore is Oregon Trail.
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You say you need to bring it back, Oregon Trail.
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Bring back Oregon Trail from, you know, from, by the way, a member of Generation Oregon
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