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00:01:53.220 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition, Human Events Daily.

00:01:59.440 Today is December 18th, 2025, Anno Dominic.

00:02:04.200 And I got to say, guys, I was just watching that AmFest video right there,

00:02:13.400 a little promo right before we started, and it hit me.

00:02:19.820 um i don't know how to put it just hit me that this am fest which is starting today

00:02:26.640 and i'm going to be flying out to phoenix right after the show here get there spend the weekend

00:02:35.160 with the turning point family that this really is the first one without charlie

00:02:42.100 And look, you know, I'd be I'd be lying if I tell you if it wasn't rough.

00:02:53.700 There's usually a time frame where Charlie is texting us and calling us and saying, hey, make sure we make sure we blow it out.

00:03:04.620 Make sure you you promote it. Make sure you let people know about AmFest.

00:03:07.820 let everybody know what's going on and make sure if people can come make sure you know if there's a

00:03:12.460 couple extra seats let's get them in let's let's pack it let's make it big and i'm just i'm just

00:03:19.980 so used to him you know it's usually usually that starts about two weeks out before an event

00:03:25.560 and it just kind of you know it just kind of keeps going and then of course i'll check in with the

00:03:30.520 events team and i'll say i'll say gosh charlie really wants us to to push this thing are we are

00:03:34.500 we low on tickets or something they say no we're fine we're totally fine we've more than last year

00:03:38.320 we're almost completely sold up why is it's just charlie being charlie it's just charlie being

00:03:42.860 charlie and of course right because that's that's how charlie that's how charlie was that's how

00:03:52.940 charlie is work you know work harder be better do more go hard and look you know

00:04:04.180 So here's the thing, right? Here's the thing, folks. We know this time will be the first time and the first in a long series of Turning Point events without Charlie.

00:04:17.100 But the worst possible thing that we could do for Charlie's legacy would be to stop, would be to quit, would be to surrender to the people who did this unspeakable evil to him, to Erica, to their children, to the movement.

00:04:39.480 because we're not going to quit the same way that Charlie would never quit,

00:04:44.260 the same way that Charlie, despite knowing the risks,

00:04:47.440 stepped out there anyway and did what he had to do

00:04:50.500 because he had that fire inside him, he had that dog in him,

00:04:55.420 and he knew what he was going to do going forward, come hell or high water.

00:05:01.220 And hell did come.

00:05:03.300 Hell absolutely did come.

00:05:06.640 And you know something?

00:05:07.800 there's only one way to respond to hell. And the way that you respond is with the power of Christ

00:05:16.900 calling on the power of Christ, calling on the power of our Lord, calling on the power of the

00:05:22.320 kingdom of God to say, we will not step down, that we will not stand down, that we will not go

00:05:29.900 anywhere, that in fact, we will continue coming and we will come even stronger than ever before,

00:05:36.520 because you could take out Charlie, but now you've got to deal with all the rest of us.

00:05:43.200 That's how you honor Charlie's legacy, by continuing the fight, continuing the mission,

00:05:49.080 and saying, next man up. Next man up. That's what this AmFest is about. And every single person out

00:05:57.220 there, whether you're watching at home or you're able to actually participate right there at the

00:06:03.320 event itself. You're the next man up now. You are. Who picks up the microphone? I said it the day

00:06:09.280 that he was murdered. I said, who's picking up the mic? Everyone is. Every single person is.

00:06:18.220 So you go look and we're at Christmas season, right? Charlie's not going to be with his family

00:06:24.560 this Christmas. Ella Cook from Brown University will not be with her family this Christmas.

00:06:32.320 Sarah Beckstrom will not be with her family this Christmas.

00:06:36.480 Tina Peters will not be with her family this Christmas.

00:06:39.640 Derek Chauvin will not be with his family this Christmas.

00:06:44.260 We got a lot of work to do, folks.

00:06:47.020 We got a lot of work to do.

00:06:48.840 And so the answer here is that you need to come into this AmFest and then go out there and start working.

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00:06:58.540 And we are going to bring this country back to God.

00:07:02.000 That is the mission. That is the task. That is the purpose.

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00:09:25.880 I want to bring on Dan Caldwell.

00:09:27.920 By the way, Dan, maybe I'm sure I'm getting the new title right.

00:09:31.200 Senior Fellow at American Moment.

00:09:33.740 Yes.

00:09:34.020 Senior Foreign Policy Fellow at American Moment.

00:09:37.560 Yes.

00:09:38.320 Foreign Policy Fellow.

00:09:39.580 Oh, I belay my last.

00:09:41.520 Senior Foreign Policy Fellow at American Moment.

00:09:44.500 Former D.O.W. official.

00:09:46.580 Dan, we had this sort of undercurrent last night that the president of the United States was going to push a massive invasion of Venezuela.

00:09:59.920 Now, that may have been a head fake in my—I haven't talked to the admin about this, but I was at the White House yesterday.

00:10:06.240 And I I thought that perhaps that may have been a head fake by the administration.

00:10:13.900 I said on War Room last night that I thought it was I called it an information operation to kind of potentially see how the Venezuelans might react.

00:10:23.240 There were a number of people who thought it was real.

00:10:25.680 There are a number of people who may have been involved in this.

00:10:28.740 And I'm not going to ask you whether or not that was your take on it.

00:10:31.160 But what really is going on with Venezuela?

00:10:34.220 Well, I think that you need to look at what is happening with Venezuela on two different tracks is you have a you can't deny there is a very clear effort by the administration to apply military pressure on Maduro.

00:10:51.980 Now, there are several different narratives about what the end state is.

00:10:57.000 Some people are saying it is a regime change in Venezuela.

00:11:01.560 Others are saying that it is focused on getting the regime to change its behavior,

00:11:07.160 whether that means ending the use of their territory as a staging ground for cartels

00:11:15.760 to transport drugs into our country, or, you know, to get it to engage in a more open and fair

00:11:24.100 manner with American businesses. But again, you can't look at the current force posture

00:11:30.120 in the Caribbean and say that there's not a real military option on the table. You don't move all

00:11:38.580 those assets into the region if you didn't want to have that optionality. But there is still

00:11:45.040 clearly a diplomatic track going on. The president has talked about speaking with Maduro. There is

00:11:52.600 efforts to reach some type of deal with him. Now, what that deal looks like, I am not exactly sure.

00:11:59.680 There's been a lot of leaks. And to your point, as you talk about a lot, it could be an information

00:12:05.020 operation of itself. There's discussions, for example, of trying to set up a soft landing for

00:12:11.200 TO GET HIM TO CHANGE HIS

00:12:13.820 BEHAVIOR LIKE WE DISCUSSED

00:12:15.120 BEFORE.

00:12:15.720 SO AGAIN, THERE ARE A LOT OF

00:12:18.880 THINGS GOING ON BEHIND THE

00:12:20.960 SCENES THAT WE MAY NOT KNOW

00:12:23.540 ABOUT AND WE AREN'T SEEING.

00:12:24.980 THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD THING.

00:12:26.520 THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD BE.

00:12:28.160 BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT SOME OF

00:12:30.380 THESE THINGS TO BE PUBLIC

00:12:31.820 BECAUSE THERE'S ACTORS IN THE

00:12:34.320 REGION AND GLOBALLY AND HERE IN

00:12:36.400 THE UNITED STATES THAT WANT THIS

00:12:37.880 TO GO A CERTAIN WAY AND IT WOULD

00:12:40.000 would be bad if they had an opportunity to derail these things. Yeah, no, and I'll just say as a guy

00:12:48.560 who was a trained information warfare officer, that's the world that I play in and, you know,

00:12:55.360 or played in, I should say, and that when I see the White House and I see, you know, people who,

00:13:01.660 you know, are in and around Trump world doing certain things, I look at it and I say, you know,

00:13:07.620 That smells to me like now, basically, by the way, what I said on War Room last night was I said, I think the information at play, number one, obviously, the pressure on Maduro ratcheting it up.

00:13:17.960 Of course, it's so obvious because they're going to read these things as people who are close to the White House hearing things from the White House.

00:13:23.720 But at the same time, you've also got all of network news and the broadcast news out there that they want to take the, you know, take the speech.

00:13:33.560 So, look, you're getting inside the heads of all of those network news editors saying, you know, maybe we should take the White House.

00:13:41.020 Maybe we should take this one. Could be something, you know, you know, they're saying it's just a, you know, they're saying it's just a play to, you know, you know, do a year rundown and look ahead.

00:13:52.160 But maybe just maybe we'll get some big news. I say we go for it.

00:13:55.720 And that's a decision that's made in thousands of markets across the country.

00:14:01.040 So, of course, you've got to figure out a way to make people cover you.

00:14:04.460 And, you know, who's better at playing the media than Donald J. Trump?

00:14:08.980 The question is, I think, to your point and to many others points and for those who are serving and those who have served,

00:14:16.700 the question is, of course, that, OK, great news that, you know, that we're getting we're getting bonuses instead of deployments.

00:14:23.980 But at the same time, for active duty, especially for my 5,000 shipmates that are on that aircraft carrier parked off the coast of Venezuela, I think they really want to know whether or not missiles or jets are going to start streaming in hostilities.

00:14:42.080 Yeah, look, again, you don't deploy this force unless you are seriously considering using military force against Venezuela.

00:14:53.340 This is not the type of force posture you would have if you were just focused on killing narco-terrorists or drug smugglers or even just doing a quasi-blockade, which the president has implemented.

00:15:10.220 This is a type of force posture that you would have if you were going to do a sustained air campaign.

00:15:17.280 It's not enough to do a forced amphibious invasion or a lot of things on land, but this is somewhat similar to what we deployed in CENTCOM prior to launching operations against the Houthis in the spring.

00:15:33.880 So this is still on the table. 0.64

00:15:36.180 We can't lie about that, that this is still very much an option.

00:15:40.980 But again, my hope still is that the diplomatic track succeeds and that ultimately we have a scenario where we're able to accomplish what we're setting out to do regarding Venezuela, meaning that we don't have a hostile power in our hemisphere that could potentially be a host to other foreign adversaries.

00:16:05.260 and that Venezuela isn't, you know, a major hub for drug trafficking in the Western Hemisphere.

00:16:13.320 I also, too, think, and again, we can get more into this,

00:16:16.980 is we also need to be mindful, too, of the risks of what could happen if a military operation is launched.

00:16:25.020 And specifically, a lot of people are talking about regime change,

00:16:28.280 but there's one scenario I don't think a lot of folks are talking about enough,

00:16:32.040 And that's the risk and possible outcome of regime collapse, meaning there isn't a firm central government in charge of Venezuela.

00:16:42.660 And that poses immense risks, not just to South America, but our whole hemisphere.

00:16:48.980 Well, look, and this is this is always a question and we haven't formally announced it yet, but we're actually going to be doing here on Human Events.

00:16:57.480 Over the Christmas break, we usually take some time to launch a new series of, you know, deep dives into certain things, typically in the past, sometimes current events and sometimes the intersection of history and current events.

00:17:11.720 We've done communism. We did the China Files a few years ago, turned that into a massive book.

00:17:17.680 We did Tales of Christendom last year, Tales of the Christians or the Chronicles of Christendom, actually, Chronicles of Christendom.

00:17:24.920 And this time around, we've actually pre-taped a whole series of interviews and deep dives on regime change operations.

00:17:36.080 And so the formal title is—I'm not going to reveal that just yet, but it's all about regime change.

00:17:42.480 This is going to be dropping after AmFest, and we're going to look into these.

00:17:46.520 And we're going to look into the almost unbreakable law of unintended consequences, which comes about through Syria, through Iraq, through Afghanistan and through Ukraine.

00:17:59.180 Of course, we talk about the Maidan revolution and we're going to ask those questions as well, because when everyone talks about these potential military operations, diplomatic operations and efforts in places like Tehran or places like Caracas and Venezuela,

00:18:12.440 you always have to ask yourselves the question that the Bush administration and then later the Obama administration never seem to want to ask.

00:18:20.700 What happens next? What comes next?

00:18:25.200 And no, that doesn't make you, you know, I hear a lot of people will come out and say, oh, you're a coward if you say that. 0.97

00:18:31.300 Oh, you're you're not American. You're an unpatriotic. No, you're not. 0.98

00:18:35.580 You're someone who actually understands that in the real world, there's something called cause and effect.

00:18:41.260 There's something called consequences of your actions that will occur. 0.62

00:18:46.000 And yes, in the Afghanistan episode, we do go all the way back to the 1979 Communist

00:18:50.460 Revolution, the U.S. response to build up the Mujahideen and what that turned into.

00:18:56.200 Jack Posobiec back, Dan Caldwell here, Human Events Daily, after this break. 0.93

00:19:05.560 Today, you know, they talk about influencers.

00:19:08.040 These are influences, and they're friends of mine, Jack Posobiec.

00:19:13.960 Where's Jack?

00:19:14.940 Jack.

00:19:15.900 He's done a great job.

00:19:19.680 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec.

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00:20:23.520 I want to get back on now with Dan Caldwell because, Dan, you know, look, you know, I try not to be one of those guys who's sort of like, I'm a professional veteran.

00:20:34.880 You're listening to me because I served or whatever.

00:20:37.100 But, look, I'm a veteran.

00:20:39.480 You're a veteran.

00:20:41.120 We had the dignified transfer yesterday over at Dover Air Force Base of a couple of heroes coming back.

00:20:47.300 National Guardsmen out of Iowa, two guys in their 20s, and then a civilian interpreter who was over

00:20:56.360 there. Why do we still have troops in Syria, Dan? What's going on? 9-11 was 24 years ago,

00:21:06.900 and Syria didn't attack us on 9-11. Why do we have troops there? 0.89

00:21:12.180 Look, let me just say the Trump administration earlier this year started a withdrawal and consolidation of troops in Syria and they should finish it because there are no vital national interests at stake in Syria that require us risking the lives of Iowa National Guardsmen.

00:21:33.380 And we still have troops in Syria because actually going back to 2018 and 2019, when President Trump tried to pull him out, he was undermined by the permanent national security bureaucracy, including some of his own appointees at the time.

00:21:51.260 Now, to be clear, that's not happening in this term, but there's been this inertia with Syria for over a decade now, and every original objective that we had for introducing troops into Syria in the first place, all the way back in 2015, 2016, has been accomplished.

00:22:13.860 The ISIS caliphate was destroyed under President Trump.

00:22:17.620 Iranian influence in Syria is no longer an issue because the current government of Syria hates Iran.

00:22:25.360 So Iran can't use Syria as a rear area for Hezbollah in Lebanon,

00:22:33.360 and they can't use the ground lines of communication across Syria to supply them.

00:22:38.600 So it's this zombie mission that keeps going on and on.

00:22:42.500 and and there are people that keep finding reasons to to keep them there and again it is

00:22:49.260 there is absolutely nothing that requires troops to be in syria everything that president trump

00:22:56.720 has laid out as an objective with syria defeating the remnants of isis and they are truly the the

00:23:03.160 bottom of the barrel remnants of isis right now to ensuring that syria doesn't lapse into another

00:23:08.800 civil war can be accomplished without hundreds or thousands of troops in Syria. So my strong

00:23:16.460 belief is that the administration needs to finish the withdrawal they started, the withdrawal that

00:23:21.820 President Trump wanted in 2018 and 2019, and go to zero in Syria. Well, and this is, look, I like 0.82

00:23:31.580 the fact that you call it the zombie mission, because look, when we talk about these regime

00:23:35.520 change operations. That's exactly what we're dealing with. We're dealing with the after

00:23:40.040 effects, the unintended consequences of operations in Burr-Sycamore and the regime change operation

00:23:45.180 that was pushed by the Obama administration, that was pushed by Hillary Clinton, that was pushed

00:23:50.880 by elements of the governments of Saudi Arabia, of Jordan, of Israel, so many others in the region

00:23:56.540 to get rid of Turkey, to get rid of Assad. So, okay, Assad is gone now. And then ISIS was,

00:24:04.220 you know, popped up in the middle. So then we had to go fight ISIS because it turns out the

00:24:08.420 moderate jihadis weren't that moderate at all. And so the weapons started flowing there. And

00:24:13.040 it's the largest, largest covert operation in CIA history in terms of price tag. And yet you won't

00:24:20.620 see any Hollywood movies about that. You won't see Charlie Wilson's war about that. You won't see,

00:24:25.280 you know, Rambo going over there and helping the Syrians overthrow Assad. No,

00:24:29.460 won't see any of this because when you don't make Netflix documentaries or Netflix miniseries

00:24:34.440 about something, apparently that just doesn't happen. Sorry, rant. But, you know, oh, and by

00:24:40.860 the way, and by the way, no, I'm not ending the rant because I have to add something because

00:24:45.140 I'm getting some flack for this online. You're not going to see any airport novels by Jack Carr

00:24:50.800 about this. Oh, Jack Carr, Jack Carr. Oh, we got it. We got to follow Jack Carr. We got to overthrow

00:24:55.720 Assad. We've got to do whatever the neocons want. We've got to do whatever the idiots in the

00:25:02.500 neoliberal space who go on Joe Rogan all the time talk about. We've got to do that. We've got to 1.00

00:25:06.240 follow them. You never actually look at the facts on the ground. OK, I lied about the ramp being

00:25:11.140 done. Now it's done. No, these are all things that get whitewashed or ignored in discussion

00:25:17.460 around Syria. Here's another thing that I think is relevant, because I know you've been talking

00:25:21.520 a lot about left-wing violence here in the United States and the risk of some of these left-wing

00:25:26.960 groups committing terrorist acts. So a lot of folks like to talk about the Kurds in Syria and

00:25:32.880 one reason we should stay in Syria is to protect the Kurds in Syria. Well, here's a little unpleasant

00:25:37.640 fact about the Kurdish groups in Syria is that they're Marxists and you had dozens, if not 0.76

00:25:43.720 hundreds of members of Antifa go to Syria to get training from these Kurdish communists,

00:25:50.560 who, by the way, were supported in training themselves by American special forces.

00:25:55.880 Yeah, there's a guy by the name of—we talked about this on the program the other day. There's

00:26:00.420 a guy by the name of Daniel Allen Baker, who is a former U.S. military member, U.S. Army. He

00:26:09.320 He basically left, went over for training with YPG and the Kurds, then got battlefield training, came back to the United States and participated in the armed blockade of Chaz.

00:26:20.700 He also, it's highly suspected, participated in the shooting of those black kids that were joyriding and now is in prison in Florida, yet has never once been charged.

00:26:31.300 Dan, I could go off on this and you, by the way, Peter Zahan was who I was thinking of. 0.99

00:26:35.820 I couldn't think of that idiot's name off the top of my head there, 0.99

00:26:38.300 who Jack Carr is just absolutely in love with. 1.00

00:26:40.720 I want to know, what is Jack Carr getting Peter Zahan for Christmas?

00:26:44.520 Are they going to kiss under the mistletoe?

00:26:47.020 We'll see, folks.

00:26:48.380 Go follow Dan Caldwell very soon.

00:26:52.280 Go follow him right now.

00:26:53.780 It's a punchy day here on Human Events Daily,

00:26:56.340 and we're totally out of time because that is The Break.

00:26:59.040 We're right back.

00:26:59.520 JACK, WHERE IS JACK, WHERE IS JACK, WHERE IS JACK, WHERE IS JACK, WHERE IS JACK, WHERE IS

00:27:10.900 JACK, I WANT TO SEE YOU, GREAT JOB JACK, THANK YOU, WHAT A JOB YOU DO, YOU KNOW WE HAVE AN

00:27:19.320 INCREDIBLE THING, WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT THE FAKE NEWS AND THE BAD, BUT WE HAVE GUYS,

00:27:23.500 And these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.

00:27:27.720 All right, Jack Wasovic, we are back live, Human Events Daily, Washington, D.C.

00:27:34.380 And folks, so there's an as as happens typically in my life, a funny thing happened on the Internet this week where.

00:27:44.120 So I find myself getting caught up with another side of the Internet, which, you know, what can I say?

00:27:51.580 I'll explain what happened that.

00:27:54.740 So Mick Foley, who is known as he was a great wrestler in the 90s, known as Mankind.

00:28:02.980 And he had a couple other, you know, different different iterations.

00:28:08.140 Cactus Jack do love.

00:28:10.100 And he came out with this post, said that he's parting ways with the WWE and he refuses to work with the WWE because he is, you know,

00:28:20.540 he views them as too close to Trump and Linda McMahon is in the admin and that, you know, doesn't like what Trump's doing, et cetera, et cetera.

00:28:29.540 But what's what's crazy, though, of course, is that obviously Trump has been close with WWE for years.

00:28:37.700 Battle of the Billionaires was over a decade ago when he was in the ring.

00:28:41.800 He's in the WWE Hall of Fame.

00:28:43.600 He was booking events and promoting events with Hogan and the Giant decades ago.

00:28:48.760 So, I mean, it's suddenly all, you know, all of a sudden mankind is out there.

00:28:52.800 So so I posted this tweet up. I say mankind Mick Foley, who's a guy who's known for being hit in the head and taking more bumps to the head than any single other person in wrestling who literally has, you know, the most head damage is the guy who's also the most liberal.

00:29:11.660 Draw your own conclusion. So I posted that up, you know, slapping back on him, clapping back.

00:29:17.660 And then Jim Cornette, corny, out of the wrestling world, comes in and he's like,

00:29:23.940 oh, Jack Pesoba, he's a bad guy. 0.98

00:29:25.980 He's a Nazi. 1.00

00:29:26.980 He's a Nazi. 1.00

00:29:28.020 He's a Nazi. 1.00

00:29:29.060 He's a Nazi. 1.00

00:29:29.880 We don't like that guy because Trump's a Nazi and Bannon's a Nazi. 1.00

00:29:33.480 Pozo's a Nazi. 1.00

00:29:34.460 They're all Nazis. 0.98

00:29:35.760 And it's like this—he uses the dehumanization language. 0.99

00:29:40.040 He calls this a maggot. 0.99

00:29:40.920 So you see this a lot from the left where they will refer to Trump supporters as subhuman maggots. 0.97

00:29:48.260 And I responded that in kind to say, well, actually, Jim, aren't you literally known as a guy who was in, you know, perhaps most euphemistically way I could put it in an who had been in an open marriage in the 1980s and was known for using a certain chair in a certain room when people would gather in that room for certain, shall we say, extramarital activities.

00:30:14.860 So it's kind of interesting hearing this guy want to moralize guys used, you know, and by the way, like, you know, I'm not one to sort of like tone police.

00:30:23.500 But here's a guy who walks up and tells us he's all the most righteous person in the world.

00:30:27.480 And you got videos of him saying all sorts of stuff over the years.

00:30:31.140 So I call him out. I say, Courtney, you want to talk? Come talk.

00:30:34.440 Come face me on in Phoenix, Arizona. Come to the AmFest stage.

00:30:38.520 I'll book your flight because we know you're broke as a joke. You've been broke since the 90s.

00:30:42.080 You can't make any money.

00:30:43.300 Mick Foley's going to be losing his contract anyway, his Legends contract, the WWE.

00:30:46.940 And I looked at Jim Courtney's podcast.

00:30:49.240 He gets like 5,000, 6,000, maybe 10,000 views on a good day, right?

00:30:53.860 Maybe 10,000 views on a good day.

00:30:55.880 So, all right, I see what's going on here.

00:30:58.060 Trying to clout chase off Poso a little bit.

00:31:00.080 Trying to clout chase off my name.

00:31:01.760 Put my name here out.

00:31:02.440 That's fine.

00:31:02.940 That's fine.

00:31:03.640 Step into the ring with me at AmFest, Phoenix, Arizona, and let's go talk about it.

00:31:08.580 And by the way, that's not a work.

00:31:10.480 That's a shoot.

00:31:11.180 R.C. Maxwell was getting in on it a little bit, my friend from Turning Point Action,

00:31:16.060 as well as a fellow member of the Pentagon Press Corps.

00:31:19.340 He's actually outside of AmFest right now.

00:31:21.760 R.C., what do you think?

00:31:22.560 Should we do it?

00:31:23.460 Is Corny going to show?

00:31:26.180 I don't think Corny's going to show.

00:31:28.080 I think we should totally do it.

00:31:29.460 I'm here outside of AmFest.

00:31:30.860 I mean, there's lots of people here.

00:31:32.220 They'd love to see something like that.

00:31:33.760 But sadly, you know, Cornette, you know, he could be a guy like us.

00:31:37.360 You know, he's a guy who likes to have fun, likes to tell some off-color jokes.

00:31:40.240 but he's a guy who is the poster child essentially for bending the knee in order to avoid the left

00:31:47.060 wing cancel mob you and i try to avoid the cancel mob as well but we do it by you know digging in

00:31:51.860 staying firm in our beliefs and of course insulating ourself from being reliant on them

00:31:56.900 of course jim cornett is the other kind of guy i mean of course we know about his notorious

00:32:01.820 you know n-word video and look i'm not trying to cancel him over you know saying the n-word back

00:32:06.700 in a day where like it was flying around um however just look back a few years ago jim cornett was

00:32:13.600 actually fired by the nwa for saying quote this guy is so tough he'd strap a bucket of fried

00:32:19.820 chicken on his back and ride a motor scooter through ethiopia now does this sound like the

00:32:26.660 kind of guy who should be judging you on uh your moral compass does this sound like the guy who

00:32:31.260 to be saying you are a fascist absolutely not but again guys like jim cornett they have to bend the

00:32:37.240 knee in order to avoid cancel culture because of their own skeleton in their closet it's sad to

00:32:42.740 see jim jim you should just be your true self and you should accept perso's challenge um i'll be a 0.95

00:32:48.360 referee happy to be a guest referee oh the guest referee i mean this is ridiculous you're talking 0.74

00:32:53.800 about jim cornett who's a washed up carny from the territory days literally he is the only thing

00:33:00.740 that he's still cutting babyface promos from a territory that went belly up before most of the

00:33:06.020 audience was born. Jim, you gotta stop. You gotta stop living in the 80s because this guy, I mean,

00:33:13.940 pretty much all I got to do is blow him over with a little just poof. I'm going to poof and blow 0.90

00:33:19.020 him over like a feather. And then I will pin his carcass to the mat. One, two, three, as easy as 1.00

00:33:25.740 that. I'll even pin, by the way, and Jim, Jim, just so you know, when I pin you, the mattress

00:33:30.560 is going to be made of my pillows just saying i mean look at jim i mean jim sorry cornet you're

00:33:38.000 not even in the top 10 of managers all time you know in the wrestling federation you know you

00:33:42.820 look at guys like jimmy cornet jimmy uh jimmy hart excuse me you know guys like paul bearer

00:33:47.440 paul hayman you know those are the goliaths of ring managers imagine you you know getting

00:33:52.180 escorted to the ring by tanya you know puseau jimmy cornet who's going to be in his corner

00:33:57.460 It's just sad to see him try to come out and just defend Mick Foley.

00:34:01.060 And again, what Mick Foley is doing is also sad.

00:34:03.260 You've got young guys in the WWE, you know,

00:34:05.120 trying to make a living off of what Mick Foley has retired off of.

00:34:08.920 And now Mick Foley is trying to trash it and, you know,

00:34:12.420 destroy it because it's advantageous for him when his contract runs out. 0.95

00:34:16.700 So garbage all around. 0.91

00:34:18.680 And I'm glad you really got into it and kind of slammed him to the mat there. 0.98

00:34:23.960 Look, look, he wants to try to swing his little tennis racket at me.

00:34:27.400 He needs to get a little tune-up on that tennis racket, Jim,

00:34:29.800 because let me tell you something.

00:34:31.020 You swing that tennis racket at me, you're going to miss.

00:34:33.940 The thing is loose.

00:34:34.860 It's going to fall apart.

00:34:35.800 And then, boom, I'm hitting you with what?

00:34:37.800 The Poso Finisher, the Poso Truth Bomb. 0.99

00:34:40.800 I'm hitting you with that Poso Truth Bomb, 0.91

00:34:43.080 and you're going to go down harder than Andre the Giant up in Pontiac, Michigan. 0.96

00:34:47.180 All right?

00:34:47.420 It's going to be done.

00:34:48.260 And then you're going to be on the mat one, two, three.

00:34:51.360 This guy, he is a mid-card manager at best.

00:34:55.140 He's sitting there with the mid-card marks talking like,

00:34:57.900 oh, I'm going to be so big on my podcast where I get my 5,000 views.

00:35:01.280 I get my 5,000 views.

00:35:02.800 It's going to be so great.

00:35:03.800 Do they even have any money?

00:35:05.040 Your marks, Jim?

00:35:05.820 Do they even have any cash, any dime?

00:35:07.960 Look, I could get more heat off of one tweet, off of one post,

00:35:12.940 than you've gotten in the last 15 years, Jimmy Corny, last 15 years.

00:35:18.600 And by the way, I will lose more money than you've made in the last decade.

00:35:23.580 All right. And I won't even care. I'll just poof. I won't poof. I'll just get rid of it.

00:35:27.740 It's as simple as that. R.C., talk to me about MFest. Talk about how people are coming to our event.

00:35:32.640 We got the top billing in the entire country. Jim Cornette hasn't seen an arena like this in decades.

00:35:38.880 That's another thing. There's nothing he hasn't seen in decades either, by the way.

00:35:41.580 No, I mean, Jim Cornett hasn't been drawn to a crowd like this since he was kind of reliant on Yokozuma for his clout.

00:35:49.400 MFest, look, there's 30,000 attendees this year, which is quite literally, you know, 10,000, 12,000 more than we had last year.

00:35:58.180 You know, you have 400 media organizations.

00:36:01.340 It's just going to be an all-out unity fest, hopefully.

00:36:06.000 Not just that, also a strategy fest.

00:36:08.200 You know, you have guys who are headliners, Scott Pressler, Cliff Maloney, who are going to be giving breakout sessions along with other organizations, Moms for Liberty, College Republicans of America.

00:36:19.540 So, look, this is a strategy session, days long.

00:36:22.680 It's not just a conference, but also it's kind of a little bit of a concert.

00:36:26.560 You know, you have your musical artists, of course, country artists performing.

00:36:29.940 You have a huge faith component, some faith artists that are performing.

00:36:34.420 You even have a Eucharistic celebration.

00:36:36.460 I heard that you're leading alongside a father out here.

00:36:39.100 I'll be there.

00:36:40.040 I'll have a priest leading it, but I'll be there.

00:36:41.900 I'll be there.

00:36:43.880 Okay, a priest is leading it.

00:36:44.880 You'll be there.

00:36:45.600 The real deal will be there.

00:36:46.800 Don't worry.

00:36:47.880 But look, we're coming up on the break, but I just got to add, right?

00:36:51.540 I just got to add to this guy, to Corny.

00:36:54.360 Look, Jim Cornette, I am the new breed. 0.57

00:36:57.620 You are the old washed up breed. 0.80

00:37:00.400 I am a shoot fighter in a worked world. 1.00

00:37:03.960 And I'm calling my shot right now.

00:37:06.060 Any format, any platform, let's go.

00:37:09.380 I don't care if it's a podcast or the parking lot, Jim.

00:37:12.680 I don't care.

00:37:14.320 You are done.

00:37:15.320 You're washed up.

00:37:16.400 Your entire world is over.

00:37:18.520 And I'll tell you right now, Poso has left the building.

00:37:22.880 Jim Cornette has been left behind.

00:37:26.980 Be right back.

00:37:27.900 Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily.

00:37:30.440 You'll catch me and RC Maxwell and all the rest of us at AmFest this weekend.

00:37:34.320 Jim Cornette couldn't even afford a ticket.

00:37:38.000 But don't worry, Jimmy.

00:37:38.900 If you want to come, if you want to come, I'll buy you a flight.

00:37:42.380 I hope you don't mind riding coach.

00:37:53.860 Jack is a great guy.

00:37:55.500 He's written a fantastic book.

00:37:57.140 Everybody's talking about it.

00:37:58.360 Go get it.

00:37:58.920 and he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event

00:38:02.980 and we're going to turn it around and make our country quite a good day. Amen.

00:38:11.800 All right, Jack Posobiec, we're back live human events daily. We're here in Washington, D.C.

00:38:18.740 And soon we'll be headed over to Phoenix, Arizona for AmFest and see if Jim Cornette ever shows up.

00:38:26.160 But R.C. Maxwell, who's on with us from Red State, but also a Turning Point Action member, is there on the ground.

00:38:32.540 He's literally standing outside the doors of the Phoenix Convention Center where AmFest is set to begin.

00:38:39.260 R.C., I believe that early registration is already open.

00:38:42.220 Is that correct?

00:38:44.060 That is correct.

00:38:44.860 People can come now.

00:38:45.980 They had early registration yesterday.

00:38:47.800 You know, don't be daunted.

00:38:48.760 It's not going to be—it will be a long line, but it does move quickly because, of course, Turning Point staff knows how to get it done.

00:38:56.160 well and i heard that i know brick suit was there yesterday he said he was checked in

00:39:00.900 in less than 10 minutes he said it was really great um what are we expecting in terms of

00:39:06.700 numbers for the event are you able to share any of that yet yes again i can share at this point

00:39:12.980 in time that there are 30 000 attendees that will be here i mean a thousand okay 30 000 right

00:39:18.980 yes a thousand of them are alone or either they're politicians um or they work for politicians

00:39:24.620 Just to give you a little bit of an insight to, you know, the level of the high level of strategic insight from conservatives that will be here.

00:39:32.440 Again, there's Christian organizations.

00:39:34.300 There's Fortune 500 companies, 400 media companies that are also here.

00:39:39.060 There's not there's no other event that quite blends the types of industry the way that America Fest does while also really giving everyone a voice to kind of be a leader.

00:39:49.680 And, of course, our leader, Charlie, is not here, which is something that is certainly felt.

00:39:56.040 Turning Point does a good job with displays.

00:39:58.020 There are quite a bit of good displays about Charlie.

00:40:00.900 But, you know, as a member of staff, you know, Charlie would always give us a motivational speech that would quite literally make us willing to run through a wall to make this conference go off without a hitch.

00:40:12.800 And Erica delivered that speech yesterday.

00:40:15.220 And I'll say she did a great job.

00:40:17.480 But of course, you know, we played a Charlie video that did make me tear up.

00:40:21.060 It's hard to deny and not to acknowledge the void that's left by Charlie, who was quite literally the best among us.

00:40:29.460 But, you know, we're all doing the best we can. And certainly, you know, Turning Point, we feel the support.

00:40:34.760 We feel the support from the donor organizations, from sponsors and from the size of this event.

00:40:40.760 And our goal, of course, is to continue the legacy of Charlie and make sure that it's something that people will talk about and it's something that people will want to come back to next year.

00:40:50.140 I also have another interesting stat, Jack, that I can share with you.

00:40:53.020 Over 80 percent of people, this is their first time at a Turning Point event.

00:40:57.620 point event you know that's we've been going to i i've been at some like regional smaller events

00:41:06.380 um with for turning point down florida new jersey some other spots asu you know throughout the last

00:41:13.720 couple of weeks the last couple of months since charlie's assassination and one of the things

00:41:19.280 that i've noticed as well is that you're right that more and more people are showing up saying

00:41:24.380 This is my first turning point event. I've never been a turning point before, but I heard about it and I want to be a part of it.

00:41:29.620 And so that doesn't surprise me. This sold out within minutes, you know, really of us putting it up.

00:41:37.620 And I could see attendees and workers coming in behind you there for AmFest and speak to me a little bit about, you know,

00:41:45.780 And I said in the opening here of the whole show that the the worst thing we could possibly do for Charlie's legacy would be to quit and close up shop and shut down operations because that wasn't what Charlie was about.

00:42:03.940 No, Charlie was about scratching and clawing for every last vote, every last potential donor, whatever department you were with was turning point.

00:42:12.460 You know, he certainly motivated you to do all you can.

00:42:15.820 You know, certainly, Jack, we've noticed how you've stepped up in a big way and how you've really embodied that.

00:42:20.040 And that's what we've all really tried to do on a micro scale as well, is do a little bit more.

00:42:25.100 And, of course, you know, we've always thought that this mission was important.

00:42:29.380 But when we consider that after the martyrdom of Charlie Kirk, this mission is even more important.

00:42:35.160 You know, everything we've done is 10 times more important, which means we really all have to kind of dig deep and do all we can.

00:42:42.180 not just in terms of effort that we put out, but also in terms of showing grace to the opposition,

00:42:48.360 to some of our enemies, figuring out a way to persuade in the way that Charlie did.

00:42:53.620 That's why he was really the best of us is because he would really he'd always have the words and he'd always have the decorum.

00:42:59.960 He'd always know the appropriate way to respond to anything. And, you know, we're all trying to get there like Charlie.

00:43:06.060 well i think that's right and and look charlie it's you you can't talk about turning point

00:43:13.560 without talking about charlie kirk i mean they're almost synonymous and in a way you know i could

00:43:19.860 get very metaphysical with this in the sense that you know charlie has it i will you know what i just

00:43:27.020 will because look charlie's a believer we're all believers fine charlie physically has left us but

00:43:34.940 Charlie spiritually is still with us. And Charlie's spirit still lives on. We, as Christians,

00:43:41.480 we believe that Charlie's spirit is in heaven right now with his heavenly father, with his

00:43:46.420 creator, with the king of the universe, Jesus Christ. And what's interesting though, is that

00:43:52.060 his spirit still animates the organization that he left behind. And that organization

00:43:58.360 is Turning Point USA. So in a very metaphysical sense, not a physical sense, but in a metaphysical

00:44:04.860 sense, as long as Turning Point is still going, as long as Turning Point is still strong, as long

00:44:09.920 as the Republic is still standing, then Charlie Kirk's fight is still with us. And that the

00:44:15.580 Charlie Kirk spirit, I like that, the Charlie Kirk spirit will never die as long as we don't

00:44:22.520 let it die. Sorry to get a little theological on a Friday, but sometimes you have to, you know what

00:44:27.400 I'm saying? You absolutely have to. And I think that's absolutely spot on. You think of the ways

00:44:32.580 that you try to of course remember Charlie the things you try to I mean I know in my home I have

00:44:37.060 on both sides of my office I have a memento to Charlie and one of his quotes and certainly

00:44:42.280 sometimes when I'm under the gun there's so many things happening I feel stressed I feel anxious

00:44:47.460 or you know there's big deadlines coming I look at that and I dig a little bit deeper so I that's

00:44:53.960 just an example of the way Charlie's spirit lives on and certainly those of us who are Christian

00:44:58.900 which is, of course, many of us, you know, we feel Charlie around us.

00:45:03.340 We feel Charlie telling us that what we're doing to fight for his legacy is the right thing to do.

00:45:09.740 And, you know, if we're feeling that, I can only imagine what the Kirk family is feeling.

00:45:15.880 And with Erica, of course, taking over duties, you know, she's not hiding.

00:45:21.720 You know, she's not just appearing to take over duties.

00:45:24.560 She's quite literally in meetings.

00:45:26.380 You see her, you know, we see her. We've seen her at the convention center. We've seen her at headquarters.

00:45:30.760 So when you see Erica taking on Charlie's spirit, of course, in that way, it's just a no brainer for all of us to follow suit because we are 100 percent behind Erica.

00:45:40.440 And, you know, we know that Charlie's decision and his wishes to, you know, have Erica lead this organization so far has been a great decision.

00:45:49.800 No, Erica is the right person.

00:45:51.340 And I've said this from the start.

00:45:52.500 Erica is the right person to be the leader because that's what Charlie wanted.

00:45:57.020 And Charlie chose Erica.

00:45:58.840 It's really as simple as that.

00:46:00.120 Charlie chose Erica.

00:46:01.300 That's all you have to say.

00:46:03.240 And look, obviously, and Erica would be the first one to say that she is not Charlie.

00:46:07.360 Of course, no one's saying that.

00:46:08.980 But the point is, this is someone who's got the strength, who's got the resilience and has been.

00:46:15.180 And it sounds cliche when I say this, but she if if she had not stepped up when she had, I don't know if Turning Point would have would have been able to weather the storm of those first couple of weeks, the hardest possible weeks.

00:46:27.640 And I remember I was there. You were there. We were all there. And everyone was just had been rocked just emotionally, spiritually, physically at their limits.

00:46:37.160 And it was Erica. It was Erica who and her strength carried everyone forward.

00:46:42.200 And people said, you know what, if Erica can do it, we can do it.

00:46:44.540 And for all the guys around, right, for all the guys around, that's your duty to step up.

00:46:50.860 Because when one of your brothers goes down, that's what you just do.

00:46:55.600 It's what you got to do.

00:46:56.740 You just got to step up and do what needs to be done for the family, for those left behind.

00:47:02.580 And there's no questions about it.

00:47:04.540 There's no conversations that need to be had.

00:47:06.420 You just do what you got to do.

00:47:07.720 RC Maxwell, where can people follow you, brother?

00:47:09.320 follow me on x follow red state on x and of course follow both turning point usa and

00:47:15.300 turning point action this weekend during america fest all right we'll be there i'll see you soon

00:47:20.260 man i'll get in a little bit later tonight jack posobik signing off from the east coast of the

00:47:26.880 republic traveling to mfest phoenix arizona charlie kirks turning point usa ladies and

00:47:34.460 gentlemen as always you have my permission to lay ashore

00:47:36.180 Thank you.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - December 18, 2025

AmericaFest 2025 and the Jim Cornette Challenge

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