AmFest Exclusive - The Demise of Performative Politics
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In this special edition of Human Events from AmFest, host Jack Posobiec is joined by Rich Barris, Joshua Laskowski, and Mark Mitchell to discuss the end of performative politics and whether or not it s hurting or helping in the current moment.
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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's special edition of Human Events from AmFest.
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Now, one of the breakout panels that we did, probably one of the most interesting ones, I think, at AmFest was something where it didn't get broadcast publicly, but we recorded it, and we wanted to turn that into an episode for you.
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So it's myself, Rich Barris, the People's Pundit, Joshua Lysak, the greatest ghostwriter in the world, and towards the end, we get joined by Mark Mitchell, the honest pollster from Brasmussen Reports.
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And it's a panel about performative politics and whether or not performative politics is hurting or helping in the current moment and really talking about where the movement is, where the MAGA movement is, where the Trump administration is.
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So this one is going to cause some sparks and I think you're going to enjoy it.
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so today we're going to talk about the demise of performative politics and if you're in this room
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right now i think you kind of already know what we're talking about who here and you could let's
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do show of hands who here is sick of all the talk with no action okay that's a hundred percent we
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would have 200 if i had said to put up both hands so we're here with rich barris he's the people's
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he's been doing all the polling out there i love that i am charlie kirkshire right in the front we
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love that we love that don't we love that folks and joshua lisek he's here and he's written joshua
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how many books have you written at this point i just finished writing my 110th non-fiction book
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110 books he's written joshua is the the world's most public ghost writer so you won't see those
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books all with his name however multiple new york times bestsellers but he can't tell you what they
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are yeah that's how it works but he's out of ohio and so being a man of ohio he was very close with
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jd vance when he ran for senate he's been out there he's understood all of these uh these these
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dynamics that have happened in the rust belt in these areas that led to the de-industrialization
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because of globalization and then also the rise of populism and i would also note that he does
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live right down the street from springfield ohio so joshua you're making sure to count the cats
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because the Haitians are still kind of running around a little bit.
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The population of domesticated felines does seem to be increasing recently.
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So the feline population goes up as the Haitian population goes down.
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It's the inverse relationship, yes, as you would say in the business.
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And Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen is going to be joining us soon as well.
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But, Rich, let's kick it off with you because you've been causing a stir lately.
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People are saying, oh, Rich Parrish, he's crazy, he doesn't know anything.
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what do you mean you know people are souring you're crazy Trump's numbers are the best ever
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this is going great and yet I do see it online and I'll actually just tell you Rich
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before we are out here we came out here I did an event where I was speaking out in Indiana in
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Carmel Indiana we had a great group of people great group of patriots and I had one man who
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got up and said I'm sick of all the talk with no action and he said Jack you need to promise me
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that you'll go to AmFest and talk about those issues.
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And I said, well, buddy, I'm doing a whole panel on it.
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And how big are the numbers that you're seeing on this
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specifically, by the way, in those seven key swing states
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and MAGA and Charlie worked so much on in 2024?
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Oh, secondly, Jack, it is maybe a co-author. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Jack, it is real. I mean, I was right in 20. I was right in 20, 24, even 16 since the guy came down the golden escalator. I'm not wrong now.
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There is this, I don't want to call it malaise, but there is this frustration because to so many of Donald Trump's voters, these people, by the way, who I talked with Charlie over so much about, they are Trump or bust or Trump's vision or bust, and they want really not much at all to do with the Republican Party.
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And they have seen this first year, and in the first couple months, they loved it.
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That's why his approval rating was skyrocketing.
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Republicans on the generic ballot were leading for most of that year.
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It's only recently that the Democrats took over.
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And there's this feeling that towards the end of this first year,
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They got distracted, and they didn't keep their eye on the ball.
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These voters were always going to be the Republican Party's number one goal,
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But you have to convince them that you're one of them and that you have to earn their vote, Jack.
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I remember when Charlie and I would talk about this all the time.
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And a guy or a girl, a man or a woman, who's not going to come out for the generic Republican, the old-school Republican, the propositional nation Republican.
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And they want to see that type of action. This is a working class. So so profile this type of voter for me, someone who doesn't normally get involved in politics, but gets so motivated to come out when Donald Trump's there.
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You know, it's interesting because before during the nomination process this past year, the DeSantis campaign made the argument that I'm going to win back suburban women and that will account for not getting these people out who everybody they know they exist.
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The only way to win is to get these people out.
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And interestingly enough, they lean to the right,
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but they don't necessarily call themselves conservatives at all.
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Donald Trump won in one of the most moderate electorates in our lifetime.
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It was only 34%, 32, depending on which exit poll you're looking at.
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percent who said they were conservative and yet donald trump still won kind of easy it's because
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of these voters and i gotta tell you let me just say this i've listened to a lot of people who
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speak through this out throughout this event it's you know some people are using it for this proxy
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war of what's going to happen with the party after donald trump i am going to say this i flew six
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hours to say this you go back to ben shapiro's version of the republican party and the mitt
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romney version of the republican party and you are cooked you're cooked you can't do it if you
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want 50 million votes go ahead if you want 78 80 million votes you have to move forward with
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America first those are the numbers that's it and and again profiling those people when
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conservatives come out and say the constitution's so great and you know capitalism's so great these
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people are being hurt by this system because we're not really practicing true free market
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capitalism are we they're being crushed by it the constitution isn't protecting them from liberal
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judges when they or from crazy school boards when they go and to a school board meeting and say i
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don't want these people allowing transgender people in a bathroom with my daughter i'm uncomfortable
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with this and the police drag him out so the constitution isn't saving that guy it's not
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protecting that guy so for some of us who may be a little bit more privileged than these people
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we have to remember that it's a different experience and trump has only been the one
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to speak for that this is that working class coalition that he put together which was which
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by the way was a multi-ethnic coalition which is one of the first people to call this want to
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switch to joshua here because joshua look i'm from pennsylvania you're from ohio right next door
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you you you very familiar because you're literally living there when when you see people who were for
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trump in 2024 do you talk to people now who are saying where's the action and actually by the way
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there's something i do want to say because you just mentioned his name i know there's little
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ears in there in the area so i'm gonna i'm gonna be careful about how i say this you just mentioned
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bill clinton has anyone seen those pictures of bill clinton that just came out last night
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has everyone seen that that's some of the most disgusting stuff i've ever seen in my entire life
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i think these files it you almost want to call it the clinton files that just came out it's just
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the clinton epstein files and to anybody who said there was no there there you you just lied you
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obviously lied uh this always should have been made public it's disgusting that this was kept
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from the american people and we got to get to the bottom of what exactly was going on between
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clinton and epstein just gonna just gotta say that because that was sick i i was sick to my
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stomach looking at some of this stuff just sick to my stomach but joshua so when when you're out
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there when you're you're talking to people are you are you meeting this type of this type of
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populist who says i don't want to talk i want the action yes i am and i i attend and i speak at and
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I go to a various right-wing political events in Ohio and we've all heard this
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reference that the right is a as a big tent and I think it was in hindsight
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and perhaps even foresight pretty obvious that Charlie Kirk was the tent
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pole keeping everyone together and now there has been a a re-tribalizing of the
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various right-wing factions meanwhile characters like Vivek Ramaswamy last
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night you might have heard also you know from Ohio just down the road in
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Cincinnati for me. The vision he laid out for Ohio and for America last night was a continued
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de-tribalizing, going back to the, let's say, the Ben Shapiro, Mitt Romney, sort of principles first,
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conservatism. America is an idea. There's this thought that you might have heard it called magic
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dirt theory, right, which is anyone can come to the United States and instantly become a heritage
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American sort of a concept. That, from my perspective, is a conservatism of the past.
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We talk about the Constitution, our principles, heritage, values, eggs are six dollars. Let's
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talk about deportations aren't happening fast enough. Well, what about the election? We have
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to win. We have to. My property taxes are still too high. These are the things that I'm hearing
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about. I supported several local candidates for office, true economic populists for office last
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year locally in southwest Ohio and these are guys who their their campaign
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speeches are showing up they're showing up in t-shirts and tennies these guys
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one of them is a farmer the other one he is an assistant Little League coach and
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they're showing up say hey I may not win but I'm gonna try hard that is populist
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authenticity we've all heard the expression you have to know like and
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trust before someone's going to buy from you in the past performative politics
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meant oh so you have to know me and like me so I'll project a certain image I
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will dress super nice so that you know me as someone respectable and that
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you'll like me so I will pretend I will put up a facade that I am just like you
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and through my eloquence and my tail spinning I will persuade you to then
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trust me to vote for me whether or not any of that is actually authentic or
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real and with the various factions that I see in Ohio and also throughout the
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United States it does seem that when we people say you know social media isn't
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real life it does in fact seem that Twitter is real life the conversations
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happening even among a nons and the replies are happening in real life
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generally under 30 that I talked to in Ohio under 30 right-wing people they
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described President Donald J Trump as centrist or a center-left administration
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Meanwhile, these events I go to, people are asking, the speakers are asking me,
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so what can we do to better support Israel if you're over age 65?
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I'm concerned that Vice President J.D. Vance is becoming an isolationist.
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So you're seeing an age split there on the issues.
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Yes. So when you're seeing that, and I'll come to Rich in a second here. So when you're seeing
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that, so that's the over 60, over 65. What about the sort of 40, 45 and under? What are they saying
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are the top issues? Biggest issue I hear from 40, 45-ish, like the elder millennial, younger Gen X
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is I have to work two jobs, mortgage payment, or trying to get the first house, or trying to go
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through, I'm doing a lot of work with Data Republican.
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We have a fun little project that... You guys know
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right? Yes. I think she's actually attending. I don't know
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if she's in the room, but I'm not going to call her
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attending AmFest I saw her around a little bit so if you see her go up and say hi and and give her
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some love because she doesn't usually come I think it's like her first big event that she's come to
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like this so she's she's phenomenal and she was very very close to Charlie in 2024 she was really
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one of the secret weapons and her and Joshua are working on a very secret very cool book that I've
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got to see a little glimpse of already that's going to be coming out soon all about the deep state
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and how the infrastructure of it, the mapping of it,
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the understanding of this is the real power structure
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and why we can't just get people elected to office
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Rich Barris, I want to piggyback on what I just asked Joshua,
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about the 40-45, the sort of like elder millennial Gen Y cohort, but then also I want to ask you
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about Gen Z. I want to ask you about these people coming online politically. Do you see that more
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of a split towards economic as well? Yeah, so I'm listening and I'm nodding in agreement because,
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I mean, we'll say under 50. That's a good baseline too. What's interesting is, and I mean,
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we're calling this the demise of performative politics. These people feel like that the 50
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and overcrowd had it really good and squandered it all and they have it really bad and now they're
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going to have to work twice three times four times as hard to be able to have the standard of life
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that the people who came before them and oh by the way had the luxury of being happy losers and
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principled conservatives they had the luxury of that while these younger voters do not and when
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we were even before when we were talking about the difference in the moderate versus conservative
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These younger voters, they're much more populist. They don't even want to call themselves conservative. We're looking at 29% self-identification of conservatives. Mark, when he comes, talk to him about this. The attitudes with the 45 or 15 under crowd are vastly different from those principled conservatives.
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I wouldn't be a dictator, except maybe just one day.
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A short 24-hour period to restore the republic.
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And if he gets it done, he'll be remembered for it.
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really was their last chance so i think this is why people have a hard time understanding you put
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out a generic ballot and all of a sudden everybody's head hits the ceiling and it's not even that bad
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but it is if you can't even get those people to come out to vote because they're upset
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they felt like this was their last opportunity to fix this country that's how that's what you're
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saying is that for this under 50 cohort the the idea is and that they think trump isn't going far
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enough it's not that he's being conservative enough it's not that he's too conservative he's
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not conservative enough show of hands are is there anyone out there who agrees with that and you know
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we're not there's not a camera on you and i see a lot of this i see a lot of this people saying
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they want more of that they want less of the performativeness they they see the tweets it's
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not that they disagree with the tweets but they want to see the action that follows up with those
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tweets at the same time and the danger here and i'll toss to joshua here for a little bit because
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the danger here is that populism is a tool and populism is a powerful tool that can be wielded
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by the right to immense popular success, immense electoral success. However, if populism moves to
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the left, it becomes extremely dangerous because the populism of the left is the populism of
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Zora Mandami. It's the populism of grievance politics of instead of we're going to build
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everything up and that rising tide that lifts all boats. That's what Trump is for. That's what we're
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for. That's MAGA populism. But in this case, it's the populism of we're going to tear down everything
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that everyone's built. We're going to go after the banks, the churches, the businesses, Elon Musk,
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and Zoramandami, who, oh, by the way, I called him out in the Oval Office to his face about this.
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he said that he was going to put an overburden tax on white neighborhoods and redistribute it
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to people who were new migrants. And then he tried to say, well, that wasn't my intent. That
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was my description. I say, oh, so you described your intent of taxing the white people more
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and distributing to migrants. Oh, these theater kids, you just got to boo them. You just got to
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boo them, guys. Wasn't he great though? Did you guys see what he's talking? Wasn't he great?
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I want to know, one of the policies as well that Mayor Mike Mondomio talked a number of times about on the campaign
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was shifting the tax burden for property taxes from what he called minority communities to white-based communities
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I also noticed that in your acceptance speech you didn't mention anything about America or Christians or white people in general.
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And so I didn't know if that was one of the policies that you guys had spoken about.
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What I will say is that I am very much interested in property tax reform
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is a system that is so inequitable that it can't even stand up in court.
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And the president and I spoke about the importance of not only building more housing,
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but also making sure that regulation of housing is something that is manageable
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to actually get through and not the cause of yet another weight that we see.
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But are you clear you're continuing this idea of race-based property taxes?
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No, to be very clear, the use of the term was a description of neighborhoods, not a description of intent.
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So you intend to tax the whiter neighborhoods more?
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They lie every time, as Joshua and I would say, this is what they do.
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Talk to me about the danger, then, if populism moves to the far left.
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Fortunately, what we did see from approximately the Occupy Wall Street era, 2010 to 2012, and in 2016,
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via first the Bernie Sanders, kind of Bernie-Bro coalition, and then with the Maha Moms, the independents,
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we did see a move from economic, let's say left-wing economic populists to being right-wing economic populists,
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finding that, oh, Sanders sells out, okay, he's just another spokesboy for the regime here, right?
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Well, ultimately, populism, as Jack said, can go either way.
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And populism is basically, we are a people, normal, everyday, individual people,
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and it's our responsibility to support them, to help them thrive, to help them prosper.
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Well, one of those is an uplift, that is the traditional right-wing values of law and orderliness
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That's why we see Gen Z youth sharing those as means.
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That's sort of the golden standard, let's say.
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Whereas on the left, Steve Saylor, if you're familiar with him,
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he has a phrase called the coalition of the fringes.
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And what left-wing political organizers have done for more than 250 years,
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and every time, place, space, and race they do this,
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they will go find the troubled and the troublemakers,
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First, that was the unemployed, the working class, the criminal class in various countries in the industrial period.
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So what we saw is the left wing, they will organize and they will agitate.
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It's not about what do you want and how do we help you get it.
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populism right-wing economic populism what do you want let us help you get it i want eggs to
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be a dollar again i want to deport 100 million people okay very simple right and meanwhile wait
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let's check let's check who here thinks there's only 10 million illegal aliens in this country
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all right 20 who i got 20 all right who's going 30 who's going 30 all right a little bit for 30
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40 40 do we have 40 50 50 all right how many say it's 100 oh my gosh there's this is amazing this
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is like a little poll right it's like a focus group 40 it's like a focus group right right
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it's like one of your focus groups no and and by the way i'll say this joshua just one of the one
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of the save rounds that i had that you were mentioning about this idea that anyone can just
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show up in america and become an american you know and i like that it's a romantic thought
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right and and if you're if you're leading with your heart you want to say i i wish we lived in
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a world where that were true but ladies and gentlemen does zora mandami seem like a regular
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american to you how about ilhan omar how about hassan piker right and all these guys right no
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no we just we know that's not american you don't act like american you don't have american heritage
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you're not interested in assimilating to this country we've seen it in minneapolis with what
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What is it? $8 billion? Or no, $9 billion. So it's half of the $18 billion was scammed by Somalians
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in Minneapolis. And the problem is when you import these people from cultures that don't have the
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same values as us, they don't value honor, they don't value the honor system, they don't value
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the golden rule, they say, whatever I can take is something good because I've gained something.
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They will abuse our systems and walk right away to the tune of billions of dollars. I love, by the
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way tim waltz after he's been caught with his you know letting him take all their hands in the
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cookie jar he goes well i was always against the fraud i was oh and keith ellison they got a real
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scandal on their hands up there folks and i'm telling you we have the ability right now the
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popular support president trump does to end every single program for the somalis in this country to
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get them out and rich and i'll i'll throw it back to you rich if trump were to do that and visibly
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with this coalition of voters that you're talking
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ever started talking about it in political discourse
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and by the way here's a little bit of a warning
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though and this this is what the left used to say about mass immigration and illegal immigration
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bernie sanders the unions they would always say that when you import this foreign cheap labor
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that it depresses wages and is downward deflationary pressure on wages this was a left-wing
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issue and then they all started shutting up about it because they were getting money from the
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different coalitions that are bilking the system when it comes to illegal aliens and mass migration
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yes it's the chamber of commerce but you know what there's religious organizations involved as
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well and as a catholic i've got to call out catholic charities i've got to call out all
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there's lutherans that are involved as well there's jewish groups that are involved as well
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i don't care don't take the name of my church and use it to cover for your facilitation of breaking
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the law how many people live in the vatican lately right yeah yeah and pope leo let's say
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When we had that Tennessee 7 special election, Donald Trump came out and he posted,
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I am pausing permanently, moratorium on third world immigration.
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The percentage of certain to vote on the Republican side jumped 10 points.
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Donald Trump knows how to just push a little bit.
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He has a way of nudging people to get out there and vote.
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But at a certain point, they do ask, I need some action here.
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And I was listening to you talk about Mamdani, and you did do great with him.
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This is something people just can't get their heads around.
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He pointed out that one out of ten Trump voters in New York City also voted for Mamdani.
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If you follow this campaign, you could see, and especially what will jump right out at you, is how non-white that coalition is, right?
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So he did very well, not by winning silk-stocking Republicans and, you know, yuppie kind of the 80s Republican voter.
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He did well by winning non-whites in the five boroughs.
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And many of those very same voters then went and voted for Mumdani.
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Their ideologies supposedly have nothing in common.
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I want you to thrive instead of actually just survive.
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They have that message, and it appeals to people.
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Right-wing populism ends with national resurgence and growth and prosperity and the peace dividend.
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It always ends in a pile of skulls and mass graves and bones.
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that's where communism and marxism always lead so when you want to know why i'm black pilling on
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twitter all of all day long it's because when i see these fractures in the coalition and i know
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they need to be put back soon because if you don't put them back they'll go somewhere and
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ladies and gentlemen speaking of black pillars mark mitchell of rasmussen reports
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has found his way to join us rich if you mind sharing the mic there with with mark so mark
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we've been going through, I'm sure you already know the conversation we've been having,
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performance versus action. Talk to us. Now, we know that you were in the Washington Post reported
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that you had a conversation in the White House with President Trump in the Oval Office. You
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talked about a little bit about that with them. You talked about it on your show. What was the
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presentation that you made to the president there regarding this very issue? So his approval rating
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is not terrible. I don't think that's the problem. I don't think that's the polling to look at
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anymore uh really i think the problem is is that republicans are going to lose like right now you
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look at the polling it's not going to look too good a year from now and so how do you prevent
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this historic pattern of statistically it just happens the pendulum swings back well they need
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in my opinion like a manhattan project in order to get the republican rotted husk across the
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finish line in only 315 days or whatever it is from now and so i told you it was going to be
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spice, folks. I told you it was going to bring the heat. And how do you even do that? You have to
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lay out a plan. It's like, hey, we know we can't fix the problems that are bigger. I mean, the real
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number that I've been tracking is that only 27% of America thinks that today's children, like mostly
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you, will be better off than your parents. And that's horrifying. And that's way different than
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in 2016. So this is a different America than the first time Trump won. And I think that they need
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to acknowledge how bad the actual problems are. They're systemic. And so you're not going to be
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able to fix that between now and November of 2026. So lay out a plan and show Americans that, hey,
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we're going down the path to the golden age. It's not here yet. Now, I would even note though,
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because since you had your meeting in the White House, there were some other people who also had
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meetings in the White House around that period. You've noticed a shift in the messaging from the
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president, from Caroline Levitt, from the communications team out there. The president
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to be a little bit more resonant with what you're
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taking a step in the right direction. I heard the word
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acknowledgement that they're going to come out with more
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word is affordability. That's what everybody uses.
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really worried that my kids aren't going to have jobs.
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I'm quite frankly worried they're going to get pulled
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on that. If I were the Republican Party right now,
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And I don't even think it's on the radar screen.
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And so what economic metric can we all feel happy about
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But like, if you look at all these metrics, they're bad.
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Like, top 10% of income earners are half of all retail sales in America.
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And I'll give you another example of that because if you guys, you know, any Black Friday shoppers out there today?
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And, you know, a couple of, you know, it's fine.
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But, you know, I've noticed, though, did anyone see that the Black Friday shoppers, suddenly, well, all the sales, all the retail stores, they were extending the Black Friday days.
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So it was Black Friday, then Saturday, then Sunday, then Monday.
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you don't do that if people are out there shopping on Black Friday the way they usually do.
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That meant that sales were down, and any retailer is going to tell you that
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because they're trying everything they can to get people in.
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And when people are doing that at Christmastime, that is not a solid economic indicator.
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That's an indicator that people out there are hurting because prices are high.
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And I've said this to the White House, and I say this publicly.
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bide inflation is still in the system bide inflation is the reason we're in the situation
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that we're in however you have to be able to be clear about this and say we're fighting a war
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against bide inflation and ultimately it isn't going to be that in some cases gas prices egg
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prices beef prices you can bring prices down but in most cases it's going to be about bringing
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wages up 100 100 joshua i know you go yeah i just wanted to add your touchdown spiking cannot
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exceed the number of yards that you've actually run down the field all right that speech they
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went in the right direction they tried they tried to listen to you mark they did you know and we
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know there are other people they they're trying but you can't go out there and pretend the golden
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age is here already you can't do it and i understand that people want to take credit for
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their successes and but barack obama did what with george bush he blamed him for four years straight
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Why? Because it works, and because it's true, and it works better when it's actually true.
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But you have to lead with empathy, and that's something the White House hasn't been able to do.
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Obama was great at it. He said, you know, Bush destroyed it.
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We've done a lot of great stuff, but there's just so much more to go.
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That is the way he always spoke about it. That's the way you've got to do it.
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I will say, I think my absolute favorite part of that speech, well, there are two things.
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One was, of course, the information operation that they ran, right, where they claimed, where they made everyone think that it was going to be like a Venezuela, you know, invasion and bombing and all the rest.
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They got all the broadcast TVs in America, all the broadcast networks, all those editors and every single ABC, NBC, CBS affiliate to say, oh, maybe we better tune in.
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and he gets out there and he starts saying that, oh my gosh, not only am I going to help you with
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economics, but we're giving the entire active duty military a Christmas bonus of $1,776.
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That was great. I think that was the best note. I think that was the best target. They're giving
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me the 10 minute sign. Do we want to do a couple of questions? Anybody want to do a couple of
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questions? Let's do that. We're going to have to do these quick. So we'll just go. I saw over here
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first actually so let's let's go right there there's a mic coming for you here just my mic's
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coming mic's coming how can we start communicating about the biden thing because inflation is
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cumulative and people need to know that and somehow they don't get it like hello i i've just
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i just keep saying look we have the greatest word we we invented it in 2021 linguistic warfare which
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joshua knows bide inflation bide inflation bide inflation if you notice uh secretary besant has
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started to use that word again. And I think I would love to see the entire administration
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just reminding people over and over the Bidenflation is still there and it's a zombie
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inflation. Can I make people mad? I want to make some people mad. Here we go. Here it comes. So
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yeah, you know, Biden inflation was bad, but the system has been broken for a lot longer than that.
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And if I look back specifically at the thing that had the most impact personally on my career,
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and I think a lot of people would agree with me here, it's not the Biden administration. It's
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our matchups, there's only one person that's ever beaten
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Wow, warning, warning, warning, you see what I'm talking about?
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All right, let's go, I think there was, right there?
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Hi Jack, so I'm also a Catholic, and I think it's been shameful to see conferences and, sorry, dioceses and bishops like the USCCB speak out against Trump's immigration policies.
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despite them saving millions of children's lives.
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And I think that's something that really hit home for me
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after recently seeing Sound of Freedom for the first time.
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So my question for you is how can we as Catholics
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and more importantly as Christians and fellow believers
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especially I'm a turning point chapter officer as well,
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and I want to teach my community in El Paso, Texas,
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about how Trump is actually saving lives and stuff.
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I mean, I think you just answered the question.
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Just get them to watch that more and more and more to actually understand that these people that are coming in,
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they're not just being, you know, coming here, oh, we want a better life.
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And that's exactly what Trump is doing to fight this.
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I think that's really a big part of the key to shifting on this issue.
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Because the truth is they make those arguments thinking and pretending they have the moral high ground until they learn that human trafficking is big business.
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And it's being driven and fueled and allowed by these groups.
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say hey question I have for you is you know back in the 60s there was a housing crisis I don't know
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if you know that in California so what developers did went out and bought land and they just made
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track housing three bedroom houses one car garage 1100 square feet and they built them in masses now
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that's called Orange County California so why don't we look at developers to build these houses
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which we have the land and just track them all out let the young people purchase them you can
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build them for 150 200 thousand dollars and get them in the initial housing and then let them step
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up from there it's my understanding that the administration is actually working on a housing
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plan that's going to be coming out here very soon um i don't have specific details on it but i
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stay tuned i think you're going to hear something very very soon about that
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all right um i see a bunch of hands the lights are like really bright so just just grab somebody
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i see captain america back there as well that's a captain america shield that's a shield no that's
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shield. Yeah, yeah. It's a hat. Thank you. Thank you very much. Hello. So there's four of you up
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there and we came here to find out what we can do about it. I'd really like to find out this is
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about a hundred people here are pretty well involved, pretty well, they understand what's
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going on, but what do we do? What do you actually really do? I mean, do all of us write letters to
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the editor? They won't print most of it. Give us each one of you what we can specifically do to
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start moving down what you want and part of that is which peoples do we listen to we just went
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through a whole thing about people dumping on each other in the main union over there that's
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not helping us we need you to give us some specific attitudes of what to do
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thank you very much i appreciate the passion so one thing that each and every one of us can do
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we all live in an area where i'm sure there is a there is a village council there's a city council
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there are township trustees, there are local officials, the best thing that we can do is
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localize first. Your community, your city, your elected leaders, talk to them about what it is
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that you care about. If you attended Cliff Maloney's session yesterday, I'm doing a book with Cliff
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about local politicians and how to become one. One thing is to consider running for office and
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making changes that are local. The second thing to do is people who are currently in office,
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Their priority is to stay in office, get re-elected, or get promoted to the higher office.
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A little bit of fear persuasion goes a long way.
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The left wins, despite unpopular ideas, because they agitate.
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The best thing you can do is agitate your local leaders.
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Annoy them respectfully, show up gently, and make them do their job.
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I don't think Rich would consider himself a political activist either.
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I think the way to look at pollsters is that I've been to D.C., I've seen how it works.
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I think that a lot of people who are rich, a lot of foreign governments, a lot of people who are not you, have their interests represented.
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And I kind of see myself as really one of the few lobbyists for the American people.
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And what I'm going to tell you is that when I hear Republican officials talk, systematic change is not on the map.
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They think they just need to raise a little bit more money
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And I think we're in a major political realignment
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And I want to see if we can get time for two more quick questions
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And by the way, find the local rhino in your area
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being named. All right, we've got to get Captain America
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But number two, we have to absolutely reform these systems because there's so much scamming.
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And I'm sorry if that's not a Republican kind of thing to say, but it is a populist thing to say.
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I think health care is a really good example of how the right needs to get smarter because I don't think they have a plan for this.
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And right now I'm telling you that the Democrats are winning on the issue of health care.
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solution, their solution is single payer. And so I don't think the Republicans can actually compete
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on that unless they do something better than just transfer payments. And also, and also you got to
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go full Maha. You absolutely must go full Maha. And we're not seeing that happen yet. There's a lot
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of, there are, there are schemes afoot to try to separate MAGA and Maha. And Maha is one of the most
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popular political movements in all of America today. It's probably more popular. You guys would
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And key groups like, oh, I don't know, suburban women, for example, which we're trying to win back.
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So I've read it already, but how do I inform people that don't read books, don't pay attention to politics, that communism is here and is thriving?
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How do I get the uninformed people, the people that don't care,
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to care about the communism and how bad it truly is?
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rather show the anti-communist, the positive populist,
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What is often more compelling to action besides fear,
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You saw the vision of the better way in lower egg prices, lower housing prices, more affordability.
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Mark Mitchell, Rich Barris, Jack Posobiec, Joshua Lysak.
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I'm going to be leading for the Catholics or anybody who wants to come.
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We're doing a Catholic adoration here, I think, in the next breakout session.
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You're all absolutely invited to come by because we are going to be worshiping our Lord Jesus Christ.
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and Jesus Christ is king of the entire universe.