ANTIFA - The Domestic Terrorist Organization and the Leftist Who Murdered Charlie Kirk
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In this episode of Human Events Daily, host Jack Posobiec talks all about the Antifa and how they came to be, where they came from, and what they are all about. Jack also talks about his book, "Antifa: How They Came to Be."
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This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
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A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
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I felt like I had no choice but to do what I did.
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You're all we, you're me, you're me, you're me.
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When conditions become right, people do get the opportunity to change the whole system through
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The international revolutionary people's guerrilla forces were to defend social revolutions around
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We're gonna re-leave this country in the street.
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Someday, we gotta knock those motherf***ers to control this thing right on their ass.
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As you can see, I'm here in the Charlie Kirk studio, Phoenix, Arizona.
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Got Charlie's mic, Charlie's seat, and indeed, Rush Limbaugh's golden EIB microphone sits right
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But we're here on a mission, because we've got work to do.
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President Trump has made the announcement, executive order will be forthcoming.
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Antifa is to be designated a domestic terrorist organization.
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Now, of course, the same ridiculous voices on the left are running around telling you there's
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Antifa is just a figment of some right-wing imagination, some right-wing fever dream.
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Well, that's very interesting, because you see, I've got thousands upon thousands of hours
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of video, of documentary evidence, of network information that we put out into an entire
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I wrote about the Antifa, stories from within the Black Block, in 2021.
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I was racing against people, drawing weapons in the midst of all of this.
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Gone up against Antifa time and time and time again.
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So, today we're going to talk all about the Antifa.
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And it always has been a marketing strategy for international communism, going all the
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way back to the original founder of Antifa, Leon Trotsky.
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Antifa was meant to be the international arm of the communist revolution.
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And the initial Antifa cells were funded and sourced from the Comintern, the Communist
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International, and KGB elements where 1930s Germany and 1930s Spain.
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This led to destabilization of the Weimar Republic, as well as destabilization efforts in Spain
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that broke out into the Spanish Civil War, which was completely supported by the communists.
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They label their opponents fascists and then say that they are the anti-fascists fighting
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And I could sit here for hours going through chapter and verse of how this works.
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The right needs to understand what it is that we're up against.
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And we need the right tools and the right rhetoric, the right words.
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People say, you know, Posobiec, why are you so focused on words?
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Because it's the words that control our thinking.
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And if we use the right words, then we have the right thinking.
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And we have the ability to create the right policy and the right strategy to actually go
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Legal entities, NGOs, nonprofits that are set up in order to support Antifa operations, the
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black blocks that you see in person, but also the financing and funding of legal cover
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so that when they get caught and they go to trial or when they get caught and they get
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put up, that they have the ability to claim, well, like they did in Washington, D.C., that
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They sued with the help of the ACLU and the city of Washington gave them a million dollars
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after they attacked President Trump's inauguration in Disrupt J20, his first in 2016, 2017, and
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I'll be right back because we're going to get into all of this.
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Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
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All right, Jack Posobiec, we are back live human events daily.
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We're here in Phoenix, Arizona, and we've got Blake Neff on, a Charlie Kirk Show producer,
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and someone who has with me spent a lot of time talking about the history of Antifa, the
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background of international communism and these groups as they were in their first iteration
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as they were funded directly by Bolshevik Russia, 1930s Germany, 1930s Spain.
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That was what really gave rise to the destabilization of those and, of course, the Spanish Civil War
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and then, you know, the fall of the Weimar Republic and the start of World War II in Germany.
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But that's different from understanding what Antifa is today.
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And so, Blake, the first thing that I think we have to address is that these people running
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around and the left has already begun this mass gaslighting operation to say there's no
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such thing as Antifa because Antifa is an idea.
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And by the way, the first response, like we're kind of setting up the debates, I guess, maybe,
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but also talking about investigative procedures that can be done.
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And the first response is always, well, yes, so is radical Islam.
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Like radical Islam is obviously an ideology and there are groups that espouse that.
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Yeah, it's not that complicated, but we should also concede there are, it's complex in the
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sense that you can't just go out and say like, well, we're going to, you know, blacklist
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Antifa and then, you know, you can't send money to the Antifa LLC anymore.
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Uh, there's going to need to be seriousness in the sense that there are specific organizations
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There are entities that, you know, operate in legal gray areas or act to aggressively
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Um, but some actually literally just do go by that name.
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Like there is an Antifa group in Portland, Oregon is named Rose City Antifa.
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And groups like, and other names like Anti-Fascist Action is one you'll see.
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Yeah, the, uh, the, the Seattle one has a name like that too.
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And, uh, uh, there's also, there's also a number of groups, um, that use the moniker
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of John Brown Gun Club, uh, Socialist Rifle Alliance.
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And that, again, they exist for these specific purpose and those exist for the specific purpose
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of, uh, training militant, uh, training with arms and training militant cells for these
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John Brown, a sort of proto-communist, uh, from, uh, the Civil War era and, or pre-Civil
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And so the, the groups do exist and, and, uh, refuse fascism is another one, uh, which
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is of course is just one, you know, slight word away from Antifa.
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And the way that you go against these groups, and by the way, though, this isn't actually
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anything new for the, uh, for the U.S. government.
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Um, you know, for example, when, when Rudy Giuliani himself, who has been incredible in
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the, uh, the fight to purge communists from our institutions and corporations in terms of
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the, in the wake of Charlie's murder, um, he, when he went after the five families of the
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mafia in New York, it's not like you just walk up to the mobsters and say, hello, can
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you give us a list of everyone who was on the mob payroll?
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Um, and yet, but, and I remember also, by the way, and he tells the story that when he
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first announced his original investigations against the mafia, the media also used to say
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And, and yet, obviously we know that he did that.
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And so it's so bizarre to hear it like doesn't exist when, for example, in, you know, 2020,
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they were able to besiege a courthouse in Portland for months on end.
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And, and like, there was, there were murders committed or the murderer is like, by the
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And they were able to do things like get him in contact with Vice.
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Michael, uh, or was that the, was the victim's name, Michael?
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It was the one where Vice knew where the killer was and obscured his location.
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I think it was like Olympia Park, Washington, but he had crossed the border.
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And he pulls a gun on them and, uh, then there was no more Antifa that Antifa went away.
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And at least in that instance, and, and yes, Vice gave him this, this interview where he,
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where he calmly spoke to them about how he stalked and targeted a Trump supporter and
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shot him dead in the street in cold blood because he was wearing a Trump hat and had been,
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had gone to this prayer meeting, you know, in 2020, just in the middle of the street.
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And so, uh, and this, these types of symbology, these types of rhetoric, of course, go up to
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and include the assassination of Charlie because, uh, a number of the bullets, half of the bullets,
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you could say that were in this, uh, in this rifle had Antifa symbology on them.
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I love how the, oh, well, that's a reference to a video game.
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Oh, why'd he pick that reference from a video game?
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Yeah. It's ridiculous. And, and then Bella Chow itself. So Bella Chow was an Italian communist
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song from the, uh, from World War II and has since gone on to become, no, it's, it's a very popular
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song in its own right. Um, it's, it's, it's good tune.
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No, I was looking into it and it's so funny cause this is so common with a lot of this stuff.
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Like it's a fake anti, it's like a fake World War II song. It's just a folk song and they gave it
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the anti-fascist lyrics like after the war, basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So it was,
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they, they try to read, this is what Antifa always does. So for example, when I, when they,
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when I say Antifa comes from, uh, uh, Germany, they'll say, well, yeah, we were fighting the
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fascists, but that's just not true because the original, the original iteration of Antifa was
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fighting the Weimar Republic and the government. And in fact, there were multiple instances, uh,
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including in Bavaria and other times where they would work with the national socialists
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in, in sort of joint efforts, joint operations, joint direct action, as they would call it in
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their parlance to, uh, just do things that would screw with the system or marches or strikes,
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general strikes. And, and so Bella Chow has taken on. And so they just lie, which I mean,
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communist, wow, who knew? Um, and so Bella Chow, that being said, has this dual role of, yes,
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it is also a popular, very popular song in Europe. Uh, the Netflix show Money Heist has it as sort of
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the theme song, but it is also the international anthem of Antifa. And you would have to be pretty
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familiar with Antifa and Antifa symbology to know that that's just not something that the average
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person would be like, Oh yeah, Antifa and their favorite song. You know, I know about that. It's,
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I don't, I, it, it, this may be the very first time that people are even hearing that information.
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And yet when you're in Antifa, uh, this is something that they fixate on quite a bit. Um,
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it's, it's, you know, always very romantic. They're always telling stories about the Spanish
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civil war and how close we came. We almost had it. Um, there, there's also a huge Antifa element
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that goes to Rojava and in Kurdistan. And so they're, you know, directly tied to a lot of the
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elements there. There's some ideological connections as well with Ojolan. Um, and, and,
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and to be true, many of the militant members of Antifa would travel to Rojava would travel to
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this area of Syria, uh, up there in Kurdistan and receive training from pro-Kurdish groups in
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weapons and in tactics that we know they've come back to the United States. And for example,
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one of them was participating in, uh, in the militant siege of Chaz up in Seattle.
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So we can see these direct ties all over the place. And by the way, just in that instance,
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right there, there are obvious international ties as well that would really open up what the
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government is able to do. So Blake, I think we've established sort of how Antifa works.
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There are front groups, some groups use the name, some groups don't, but it is a shared ideology.
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And, and to be sure, shared tactics, which, so having, uh, a counterterrorism background from
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when I was at Guantanamo, something that obviously, uh, funny enough, did you know that terrorists
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don't usually operate in, uh, in the open that actually they try to hide the office.
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You can't just go to their office in downtown, like the, the terror office.
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It's not like the, the bureau, you know, the Bureau of Al Qaeda. It's no, actually they,
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they do this all the time. So this is a, a very common, uh, a very common procedure and
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art really to uncovering them. And of course they always lie. I'm not really a member.
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Uh, this is part of their masking of their operations. And so what you have to do is peel
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that away to, and one of the best ways to do that is following the tactics. Because when you see
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black block, when you see the specific targeting that they do, when you see these, uh, what we call
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tactics, techniques, and procedures, TTPs. So tracking TTP flow can be another way in terms
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of a core. And in addition to, of course, the classic money communications, um, network trees,
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all of that stuff that we're all very familiar with, that the government will now be able to use
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to start mapping out these networks. Exactly. Exactly.
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And so I think, I think we've got two minutes left on this segment. And I, I think we should also
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start talking a little bit about how, just how the government has enormous powers that they can
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bring to bear now. Yeah. And I mean, the most obvious thing you can do is like, once you,
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once you're willing to mark, like, oh, this is actually like a highly, you know, problematic,
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like pro terrorist activity, you know, you can just bluntly be like, yeah, we're going to start
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looking much more aggressively at, you know, if you're directing money towards those ends,
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if it seems like your primary purpose is to aid those ends, you know, what if we, what if we decided
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to be like, Hey, you know, we're going to actually start thinking about what, why universities are
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giving honorary degrees to Angela Davis, who basically was Antifa in like the late sixties
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and seventies helped murder several people. Bill Ayers.
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Uh, yeah. Bill Ayers, like a lot of these people, I don't know if there's any way we can still
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prosecute these people many years later. Cause those were all like obvious hash jobs that they
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screwed up. Oh, we can get creative. Yeah. That's I love, by the way, there's, there's that meme
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about that. The Wikipedia page of like every domestic terrorist on the left is like social
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activists is like, well, no, it's always like, it's always like early life goes to college,
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participates in series of bombings. Yeah. And then it's like, uh, it goes to trial,
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gets out on a technicality, gets hired by an Ivy league college. Like Bill Ayers had to like flee
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the country for a while. And then he just came back and they'll, they'll be like, Oh, well,
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like the FBI, like messed up some of the evidence. Okay. I don't think that would have stopped us
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these days. No. And it's, and it's not going to stop us. And, and honestly, I think DHS could
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perhaps take the lead here because again, this is a domestic terrorist organization and DHS
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absolutely has the, uh, great, great authorities to do, to bring you bear. Right back. Jack
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Posobiec, human events daily. You talk about influences. These are influences and, uh,
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they're friends of mine. Jack Posobiec. Where's Jack? Jack. He's done a great job.
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All right, Jack Posobiec. We are back live on human events daily. Uh, we were very honored
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to have Megan Kelly joining us. Jack, how are you? It's been a week. It's, uh, it's certainly
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been a week. Um, but oddly enough, it's like, I can hear Charlie's voice like, like in my
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ear sometimes. And it's just keep going, keep going. Don't, don't stop. Don't, don't worry
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about me. Yes. I'm, I'm where, I'm where God wants me. I'm doing, I'm doing other stuff.
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I want another, I, wherever Charlie is, he's working. We know that. Yeah. No, I know what
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you mean just doing the show today. You know, we talked so much about Charlie and then wrestled
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before I got here about, do we do any other news? Do we do like regular news? And I was
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like, there is no way Charlie would want us to skip the Jimmy Kimmel story. You know,
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like that. No, no. He'd want us to have this moment of celebration. He'd want it. And he'd,
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he'd want all of it. He'd want, he would honestly, I could even say, he's hearing him saying like,
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okay, Jack, like take, take a day. Fine. Talk about what happened, but, but move on, move on.
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Don't sit there. Yeah. And he, that's who he was though. It was, it was all about what's the next
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thing? What's the next hill to climb? What's the next mountain we're going to conquer? And he would
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always be looking to do that. He would take the, you know, he took Saturdays off and it was the,
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but it was the most aggressive day off that you could ever think of. He's like, I'm checking stocks.
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I'm looking at, you know, this thing, looking at this operation, what's going on. All right.
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Family stuff, family stuff. Let's go, go, go. How did you guys meet? How did we meet? Um,
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I think we met at a CPAC, you know, briefly for the very first time. And we just had a mutual contact,
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you know, and is that, Hey, Jack, Charlie, Charlie, Jack, you know, and I was like, Hey,
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appreciate your stuff. And then you just sort of move on. And then, uh, I was at some other event,
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you know, in like 16 or 17. And I remember I picked him up at the airport. Funny enough,
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it was an Ed Martin event. And when he was running the, uh, Eagle forum for Phyllis Schlafly
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and he just needed a runner to go to the airport and said, Hey, can you go pick up Charlie Kirk?
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And it's like, Oh yeah, yeah. I met Charlie, you know, a while back, you know, I'll go meet him.
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And then, you know, you just sort of, you're on the circuit and then you keep bumping into each other.
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And then eventually it just sort of, you just sort of realize that you're rowing in the same
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direction and you get, you get closer, you know, and it's, it's that, that's my relationship with
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Charlie, you know, it wasn't this sort of like, you know, Hey, let's go hang out and watch movies
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kind of video games kind of relationship. Same, same. It's like, let's go, let's go into battle.
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It's the nature of this business that there will be a bond between the people who are fighting for
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the same causes as you are. You know, I mean, I feel like this is how you and I kind of became
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friends, like over X after just being out there and plugging away every day and just seeing,
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but you see somebody's character, you know, you see what they stand for. You see what they,
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what they fight for and you can't miss, you know, what somebody actually stands for. If you've spent
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enough time online or spending time listening to them. I just saw you at Charlie's turning point
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event in July. Remember that we saw each other backstage and we all hugged. We had,
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hadn't had a moment and it was so jubilant, you know, it was such a festive atmosphere.
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You just would never have known this was hanging in the balance.
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Yeah. I mean, you know, and I think back, so that was, I think that was the last time I actually saw
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Charlie in person was that event. And, you know, there's, there's certain things that when you
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bring them up and it's, it's tough because, you know, they say it comes in waves and there are times
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when I'm just like, just in this past, it's been a week, I guess, you know, where I'm totally fine.
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And I'm like, let's go. Hey, Antifa, finally, we've got the, we've got the green light on that,
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which we've been gnawing on the, chomping at the bit for, for, you know, for years.
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And, you know, and then I'll, I'll just some, some thing, some song or some reference or just a
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certain phrase. And it's like, Oh, Charlie used to always say that, you know? And I don't know
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about you, but I've been like refreshing X all the time for like news that it's not true.
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You know, being here in the studio and where we spent and people, you know, the live streams that
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we did here and, you know, the, you know, just, we would hours and hours, you know, Charlie was,
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of course, famous for, you know, no breaks, no breaks. You know, you'd run to the bathroom and
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run back. So he would go, you know, we'd go like four hours and he's like, all right, Jack, you've got
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it. I don't run to the bathroom and then come back. All right. And then I would, then he would hold
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down and then I would go and we just, but we'd never stop. And then, you know, coming and being
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here every day, it's, it's hard, but it's, it's, it helps you focus at the same time. And I feel
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like it's a really weird way. Like I'm kind of like, I think my wife will understand what I mean
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when I say this, like, I'm glad I'm just not sitting around at home. And it, because when I'm
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here, I associate it with work and doing the work, but I'll tell you one thing, I just keep
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waiting for him to come through the door. Yeah, of course. I know me too. I'm like, when a news
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story breaks, I, over the past eight days, I've been like, get Charlie, you know, you'd say that.
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And he'd always say, yes, you could get him, you know, as busy as he was, he'd always say yes.
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And you just know, like when you saw, it was so mutual. You knew, whenever you saw Charlie
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Kirk lined up for the day, it was going to be a great show. It's going to be an easy show. He was
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such a good talker. He was so clever. He was so funny. You know, you'd laugh, you'd, you'd hit
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things hard. You'd have deep philosophical conversations on whatever issue you wanted to
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go deep on. He could, there was nothing he couldn't do. And I don't know, and I say this completely
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platonically, but I just fell in love with him. You know, you fall in love with Charlie to know him
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is to fall in love with him. I mean, I'm sure you can relate. It's like everything about him
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was likable and lovable that you can't say that about virtually anybody, right? It's
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like, we all have our dark sides. And I, I didn't. And it's, it's, it's, I still keep
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like, it's, it's like right out of the corner of my ear. And I'm just wait. Cause, cause
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whenever Charlie would burst in, it was a burst. It was like, boom, the energy just gets ratcheted
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up. And he's like, boom, boom, boom. Are we up? Are we live? Is this going on? Is this
00:26:13.020
guest coming? Are we taking this feed? Are we on that? Do we have the clips? Do you have
00:26:16.080
it? And then you just, and then you're in and it's like, you're on a rocket ship.
00:26:19.640
Yeah. And, and Charlie's driving and we're all going to this destination and you better
00:26:24.740
buckle up because, you know, if you're not on board, like you're going to get, you know,
00:26:30.100
you're going to get washed over. And, and it was great.
00:26:32.860
Yeah. The first time I saw him in person was at behind the scenes at a turning point event.
00:26:36.980
And I was like, is that, that's his go gear? Like I knew Charlie didn't do drugs and didn't
00:26:44.820
drink alcohol or anything like that. But I'm like, if you didn't know him, you'd think he
00:26:47.900
was on some sort of massive speed ball because he was just, I got this and I got that and
00:26:52.920
I can do this. And he knew everybody's name and he was so well organized.
00:26:57.820
He had done, I think for at least a year, he hadn't had caffeine.
00:27:01.440
That, that, that cup, that, that's a, that's a mint tea.
00:27:04.040
Yeah, that's right. That was a, that was a, it's selling out right now at Starbucks across
00:27:08.320
Megan, I know you've got to run, um, but thank you. Just thank you for being here. Sunday?
00:27:22.960
Jack. Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you.
00:27:31.940
Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're
00:27:37.060
always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the guys who
00:27:41.800
be getting policies. All right, folks, we're back here. Human events daily real America's
00:27:50.480
voice. I want to say thank you to the entire staff at real America's voice, as well as
00:27:54.300
turning point and, uh, and the Charlie Kirk show, the studio, just everything that they've
00:28:00.240
been stepping up and doing this entire week. The fact that they've had to, um, deal with
00:28:09.940
unspeakable horror, many, and I'm just going to say it. Many of the people that are working
00:28:16.660
here every day, we're at the event. Many of the people who were there, Blake was there
00:28:20.680
and, and yes, they saw it and they're still going. They're still going for Charlie and someone
00:28:30.180
else who has gone through more than any of us is Mrs. Erica Kirk. And I heard the news
00:28:44.000
last night, going to admit, I heard the news last night and I was like, I mean, I had to
00:28:51.240
tie my hands together so that I didn't tweet it out because I was so excited and I was so
00:28:57.820
happy when the decision came down that Erica Kirk would be named the chair and CEO of turning
00:29:05.540
point USA. I mean, if you know, Erica, if you've got to meet Erica, and I think people
00:29:12.620
are sort of, you know, publicly getting to meet her for the first time, but she's, she's
00:29:19.100
so warm and so loving and yet so strong. And ever since she became a mother, you can
00:29:27.400
just see this strength that exudes from her and in the way that motherhood does for, for
00:29:35.460
the best moms, it makes them better people. It makes them more complete. I've seen it.
00:29:39.780
I'm speaking of experience, you know, having seen that same change in my own wife, Tanya
00:29:43.740
Tay. And, you know, I've seen her a few times as well in the wake of this and the way she's
00:29:54.680
dealing with it, the tragedy, the grief, but also the anger and the resolve, the fortitude
00:30:05.220
to understand that we stay the course, that Charlie's mission is now our mission. And Charlie
00:30:15.420
wanted her. Charlie wanted her to do this. Should anything happen to him? He said that.
00:30:23.620
And it's the right pick, not only for the organization, not only for, to honor Charlie, but it's the
00:30:36.060
right pick because she's the right person to fill that role. And I think in a way, in
00:30:41.120
a, in a way that perhaps only he understood that when Charlie first picked Erica to be his
00:30:50.660
wife to, you know, get together, get engaged, that he knew he could see it in her, that she
00:31:04.920
had everything, absolutely everything to take the reins, to carry the, his torch. And so we're
00:31:15.180
going to do everything that we can. I know I'm going to do everything I can to support turning
00:31:19.760
point to continue to support turning point, to step up and make sure that all of the interest
00:31:28.300
and the outpouring of generosity that's been flowing to the organization makes it so that
00:31:37.240
Charlie's mission never ends, that the work never ends, that the fight never ends. That
00:31:45.560
is absolutely what Charlie would have wanted. And it's, it's just incredible to see. It's,
00:31:53.900
it's amazing that she even has the ability to do this.
00:31:57.100
And I couldn't be happier in the sense that, um, the sense that I, I don't want any of this to
00:32:06.760
happen, but I couldn't be happier that this was the move that the organization made and that she
00:32:12.220
has accepted. Uh, I want to bring on our next guest. Now I'm told that we have Senator Mark Wayne
00:32:17.560
Mullen is joining us. Senator, are you there? Hey Jack, how are you doing brother? Senator,
00:32:24.860
thanks so much for, for being here. Um, I'd love to get your reaction if possible. I know that,
00:32:29.000
you know, Charlie and Erica to this, this news that, uh, Erica Kirk will be taking the reins at
00:32:33.520
turning point. Well, I, I had the privilege of knowing Charlie, you know, very well, uh, Erica,
00:32:39.780
I didn't get the privilege of, of knowing her like I wanted to just met her a few times,
00:32:42.820
but, um, what a perfect, what a perfect individual to carry on her husband's legacy. I, I think one
00:32:49.740
of the, one thing that all you need to see doesn't know the relationship that, uh, Erica had with,
00:32:56.660
with Charlie is when Charlie, um, announced to the world that he was engaged to her and the look on
00:33:03.680
her face, look on her face when he walked in and saying, I can't do this. I can't do this with you
00:33:08.800
looking at me like this. I, and she, she just had this love and this all about him and who he was.
00:33:14.880
Uh, and then, and then to see her strength when she stood up and addressed the world, uh, and,
00:33:23.680
and, and, and you saw the turning point USA's chapters just go through the roof of people wanting
00:33:30.600
to, uh, to, to be part of it. There's no question that she needed to take the reins that she was the
00:33:37.280
right person. And, and Charlie saw strengthen her. Charlie loved her. Um, they both had a vision
00:33:44.440
and a love for, for the outreach because it was outreach that Charlie had out and Charlie reached
00:33:49.580
out to the young people, reached out to the world, preached the gospel, uh, would, would,
00:33:54.480
would witness to anyone, uh, was a mentor and, and by his side, actually, I'm not, I would say hand
00:34:01.400
in hand, uh, hand in hand, they did it together. And so there's, this is, this is the right move.
00:34:08.960
And this is the direction that turning point is going to go global.
00:34:15.380
Well, you know, I think that's right. And, and I, I haven't really, uh, revealed much of what's
00:34:20.580
going on behind the scenes, but I I've even been fielding, uh, a lot of those requests and messages
00:34:27.180
from overseas, particularly in Europe, but also in, in Asia, uh, South Korea and Japan, where Charlie
00:34:32.620
held his last couple of stops as a, as a matter of fact, where people are saying, how do we start
00:34:37.100
turning points over here? How do we do it? How do we get involved? How do we get? So, so actually the,
00:34:41.700
you know, the, the, the organization is going to be even bigger than when Charlie was at the helm.
00:34:47.920
And I think that, I think that Erica is absolutely the person to make sure that whatever comes next,
00:34:54.800
that this organization stays true to those ideals that, uh, that Charlie built it upon. And, and to
00:35:03.700
be sure the entire team is staying on, uh, everyone who built this thing is behind Erica a hundred
00:35:09.860
percent. And Jack, this isn't just about Charlie Kirk's legacy. This is to continue the movement.
00:35:16.800
This is to continue what, what Charlie built. Charlie wouldn't want it about his legacy. He wants to see
00:35:22.360
that the mission that he started, the vision that he started continues and grow. Cause it wasn't too
00:35:28.780
long ago that Charlie, he, he wanted to be on every campus, high school campus in the United States.
00:35:34.980
Uh, I think there's somewhere around 23,000 plus campuses in the United States. And the last time
00:35:39.860
I checked, uh, the last time I saw Andrew put out a, put out a message out on, on X, there was something
00:35:47.760
like 57,000 requests, uh, for turning point USA chapters. I don't know how that number, that number
00:35:55.620
changes by the minute. So I know we only have a couple of minutes with you left. I did want to ask
00:36:00.760
you, we do have news of the day and, uh, I can hear Charlie in my ear saying, Jack, Jack, don't,
00:36:05.640
don't, don't forget to ask the center about the news today. So, um, this, this rule change regarding the
00:36:10.980
president's nominees, many of which have been languishing, uh, in terms of confirmation, talk to us
00:36:16.720
about this new Senate rule change and how important it is. So what we're doing is restoring the norms
00:36:22.960
of the Senate, the history, Jack, real quick, uh, 98%, uh, actually over 90% of, uh, uh, non-essential,
00:36:31.320
which I mean, they're all essential, but I mean, um, non-cabinet members, non-judicial members,
00:36:35.280
what we call a civilian noms were over 90% was voice voted since Obama. The first time that didn't
00:36:43.060
happen, or I'd say previous to Obama, the first time it didn't happen is when Trump was in office.
00:36:48.120
Only 60% of his, uh, civilian noms went through. And, and, and this is the first time ever in history
00:36:55.340
that no one, not one single person has been able to go through by voice or unanimous consent. So Chuck
00:37:01.480
Schumer has went nuclear on the, on, on the Senate. What we have done now is we've said, okay, since you're not
00:37:06.820
going to let the norms continue, we're going to do a rules change. Leader Thune made this very clear
00:37:11.520
at the beginning of Congress. He said, we can either do this hard way or we can do this easy
00:37:15.540
way. Chuck Schumer decided to do it the hard way. We're responding to it at, uh, in probably
00:37:21.160
15 minutes or, or within 15 to 30 minutes from right now, we'll do the first in block where we're
00:37:27.140
going to confirm 48 individuals at once, uh, for these nominees. We're going to come back later and
00:37:33.740
do 103 on another in block. We will have all the backlog done by the time we get probably
00:37:41.520
uh, mid, uh, October. And then we'll be waiting on the president to send us more noms. We will be
00:37:47.820
able to get everybody that he has, he has, um, on the list. As long as that paperwork is done,
00:37:53.620
we'll be able to get them through almost immediately. Well, I, Senator, that's incredible.
00:37:58.500
I mean, you, you look at those nominations and the fact that here we are sitting in September,
00:38:04.120
president Trump made the nominations over a rolling course of weeks at the beginning of the year.
00:38:09.320
That was all the way back in January. I mean, it's, it seems inconceivable, I think to the
00:38:14.680
average American to say, wait a minute, you know, what's the government doing? How's the agenda being
00:38:18.880
working for it worked forward. And they're still having open positions that exist, uh, all so many
00:38:25.520
months, almost 10 months now into the admin. This is what the people voted for. Right. Well, but,
00:38:30.120
but Chuck Schumer, you got to remember what's going through Chuck Schumer, his mind is, is that the
00:38:33.960
American people got it wrong. I know best. So instead of giving the American people what they
00:38:38.780
chose by saying, we want Trump's administration and kick out the bones from the Biden administration,
00:38:44.160
Chuck Schumer is saying, you got it wrong. We're going to slow roll this and keep these, keep these,
00:38:48.600
uh, Biden appointees in place. That's, that's not what the American people want. That's why they
00:38:54.640
kicked the Democrats out of control last November. And hopefully in, in 12 months from that election
00:39:00.720
that happened last year, we're going to have president Trump's, um, uh, uh, uh, people in
00:39:06.800
place and continuously putting this country back on track. And, and that's what it is because of
00:39:14.080
course, going into midterms, uh, we'll, we'll start up very soon. The political process, one third of
00:39:19.460
the Senate as it is, it's very simple, I think. And, and talk to me about this though, Senator,
00:39:25.200
the idea that it's that people are saying, you know what, those were the, the new norm. It's,
00:39:32.920
it's got to get thrown out the book about the window because these senators, these Democrats
00:39:37.200
are sitting there trying to hold up the process and they know they're doing so on purpose.
00:39:43.160
Yeah. It's, it's, it's about having to go around the obstruction. It's so many of these people have
00:39:48.020
had too much pride in the name being a Senator and they forgot that they're serving the American
00:39:53.100
people. The title means nothing. You, you mean it means nothing. If you're not doing what's best
00:40:00.320
for America, you are serving yourself. And that is what's happening up here with the old guards
00:40:05.960
like Chuck Schumer that has forgot what his role is. He's, he's to support what the American people
00:40:12.380
chose. American people chose president Trump to lead this country in a direction which is completely
00:40:18.300
opposite to what his radical Democrats did. And instead he thinks he's more important than the
00:40:24.700
voters of the United States. And so we are, leader Thune has a different mindset than, than, than a lot
00:40:32.260
of other leaders have been up here. He's going, we're going to restore the norms. We're going to get
00:40:36.860
the Senate working for the American people again. And that's exactly what has happened. That hasn't
00:40:42.680
happened quite some time. We've had leaders on both sides that, that was interested on their direction
00:40:48.140
that they thought America should go to rather than leading, uh, uh, uh, allowing the American people to
00:40:54.000
choose the agenda and then were to carry up the agenda that they chose. You'd think that would be
00:41:00.660
simple, but as we know, uh, when the power flows from the people to Washington DC, suddenly that town,
00:41:09.420
the beltway up there has a way of, of making the symbol so much more complex.
00:41:15.000
It's the way that the Senate is set up. I mean, I'd love, I, I, I, I feel honored to be in the
00:41:20.360
Senate. It is not my life. It's not what I, it's not what I'm going to do my whole life, but it's an
00:41:25.960
honor to serve. But the way that it is set up different than the house, the house, you can, you can be a
00:41:31.680
chair of a committee because you get more people to vote for you. And you, so by a, by, and when you're a
00:41:36.540
sophomore, you can become a chair of committee. The way it works here in the Senate is the longer
00:41:40.840
you sit on the committee, you'll eventually become the chairman. That doesn't mean you're the best
00:41:44.680
person for the position. You just outlived everybody else. When they get there, it's becomes
00:41:50.060
territorial. They feel like they've earned it because they've sat there longer than everybody
00:41:54.380
else. And there that's when their, their own personal agenda gets in the way of the American
00:41:59.160
people's agenda. And, and, and I'm not throwing any colleagues underneath the bus. It's just that
00:42:04.160
Leader Thune has said now, we're moving a different direction. We're going to work for the American
00:42:10.180
people. And he is, he is doing everything he can to make sure that the Senate works efficiently
00:42:15.400
for the people again. And I, I am thrilled to be able to be part of it.
00:42:21.240
That's right. Look, we've got operational control of the border. I think now it's time that we ought to
00:42:26.000
take operational control of the federal government. So thank you, Senator, for your hard work on behalf of
00:42:31.800
the American people, the American voter, the American taxpayer as well. God bless Senator and
00:42:38.540
Jack, thank you. And I'll see you Sunday, brother.
00:42:41.340
I'll see you. We'll be, we'll be there. Wouldn't miss it for the world. And that's right,
00:42:46.400
folks, this Sunday, of course, as everyone knows the memorial for Charlie Kirk, the funeral
00:42:53.260
for Charlie Kirk, we've set up and established fight for charlie.com. So if you're trying to come,
00:43:00.400
look, I understand it's going to be very, very, very well attended. This will be the largest event
00:43:08.820
in turning point history, the first full stadium show or, or, you know, events that has been held
00:43:16.620
for turning point. And even if you can't come, you want to support there are ways to do that on fight for
00:43:22.940
charlie.com. And of course, every single bit of that is appreciated because all of it, all of it
00:43:29.780
goes towards making sure not only the Charlie's legacy is honored, but that Charlie's legacy
00:43:36.800
continues. And the best way to do that is to continue the work of turning point USA, taking
00:43:44.280
his life's work. And, and think about that for a minute. This is Charlie's life's work. It's turning
00:43:52.880
point. It's his legacy. It is what he leaves on the world. Perhaps, perhaps one day Erica will be able
00:44:02.900
to pass it on to the children. If they want, you know, that's a story for another day, as they say.
00:44:09.820
But that's what turning point is. Turning point was always meant to be passed on to the next
00:44:16.400
generation, because it was all about investing in the next generation, training the next generation,
00:44:21.960
finding those leaders, finding that talent that was able to come up.
00:44:26.960
That believed in the truth, that believed in American principles, that believed in the American
00:44:34.320
nation, that believed in the American founding fathers, that believed in our religious heritage,
00:44:40.860
the heritage of the Holy Bible, upon which all of Western civilization rests. Something, by the way,
00:44:49.200
that we've been slipping away from. And I know that Charlie, and certainly I, have been calling this out
00:44:55.600
for months prior to his assassination. And so that's why this event on Sunday is so important,
00:45:07.620
because we are in the turning point. We're in it right now. It's going to be covered on all the news.
00:45:15.740
It's going to be in all of it. Everyone's going to be seeing it. But again, as important as this event is,
00:45:25.600
there is a possibility that the event is a failure. And what do I mean by that? Sure, there's going to
00:45:32.140
be a lot of people there. There's going to be incredible speeches. But if you want this event
00:45:37.620
to be a success, which is what we all want, you must turn your anger and your sorrow into action.
00:45:48.160
You must take those emotions, take the horrific evil that was visited upon the Kirk family
00:45:55.560
and turn it into something good. Turn it into something true. Turn it into something real.
00:46:04.320
Get motivated. Get active. And if there isn't a turning point chapter in your
00:46:09.460
school or in your high school or even in your area, I don't know if they have local turning point chapters yet,
00:46:17.780
but might as well just have to do them anyway. Sorry, Tyler. I just invented something. I just
00:46:24.500
created more work for you. We're going to do it. We're going to do all of it for Charlie.
00:46:31.360
And I'm very pleased to announce that just minutes after Senator Mark Wayne Wollin has
00:46:39.300
stepped off camera here, the US Senate has just unanimously established October 14th as the
00:46:50.140
National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk. October 14th is Charlie's birthday. I couldn't think
00:46:58.120
of a day that's more fitting than that. And I certainly hope we'll see. That seems like that
00:47:05.540
could be a good day for Erica to head to Washington, D.C. to posthumously receive the Presidential Medal
00:47:14.980
of Freedom for her husband. They might do it this Sunday. We'll see. But if they don't do it this
00:47:21.640
Sunday, I would say, do it then. Do it in Washington. So that Charlie has won the same
00:47:29.360
way that Rush did. The highest civilian honor that the president can bestow. And show me someone who
00:47:38.200
deserves it more than Charlie. You can't. You absolutely can't. So that's my message. Get
00:47:45.240
activated. Get focused. And when it comes to Antifa, be warned. You're on notice.
00:47:57.200
I wasn't being facetious earlier when I said the Department of Homeland Security
00:48:00.820
could play a huge role here. Domestic terrorism, domestic extremism. This is a massive, massive role
00:48:10.900
for DHS. They have authorities. They have operations that can be brought to bear against
00:48:18.100
the various constellation of organizations and front groups that constitute the Antifa threat.
00:48:26.320
Yes, obviously, Antifa is an ideology. It is an ideology shared by various groups that are organized,
00:48:33.980
some who use the name, some who don't, to perpetuate domestic terrorism and domestic terrorist
00:48:39.940
ideology in our country. And it will be rooted out, root and stem from our nation because they declared
00:48:49.420
war on our nation. They shot and killed Charlie Kirk. I saw a leftist murder Charlie Kirk and I saw them
00:49:03.540
celebrate it. We all did. And fix that in your mind. The singular point. This has gone mainstream
00:49:20.960
and there are operatives, there are individuals, there are groups, there are funding networks.
00:49:26.920
All of it will be disrupted. All of it. It will be cast asunder. There will be not one brick left of this
00:49:39.460
edifice when we are done. It's really simple. Leave now. If you're a member of one of these groups,
00:49:50.800
if you're involved in this type of activity, walk away. Do the right thing. Maybe, maybe you could even
00:50:03.440
help us. Remember, whoever flips first gets the best deal. So we'll see. We will see. But I promise you
00:50:15.980
this. If you don't, you will not see us coming until it's too late. Because we're not going to stop. At all.
00:50:29.400
Until one night, get a knock on your door. And then it's time to go.
00:50:39.840
Sleep tight. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay short.