Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - ANTIFA - The Domestic Terrorist Organization and the Leftist Who Murdered Charlie Kirk

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00:02:11.560 Today is September 18th, 2025, Anno Domini.

00:02:18.280 As you can see, I'm here in the Charlie Kirk studio, Phoenix, Arizona.

00:02:25.240 Got Charlie's mic, Charlie's seat, and indeed, Rush Limbaugh's golden EIB microphone sits right

00:02:36.680 here next to me.

00:02:37.300 But we're here on a mission, because we've got work to do.

00:02:45.280 President Trump has made the announcement, executive order will be forthcoming.

00:02:52.800 Antifa is to be designated a domestic terrorist organization. 0.77

00:02:57.280 Now, of course, the same ridiculous voices on the left are running around telling you there's 0.83

00:03:06.480 no such thing as Antifa. 0.90

00:03:08.920 Antifa doesn't exist.

00:03:11.040 Antifa is just a figment of some right-wing imagination, some right-wing fever dream.

00:03:17.100 Well, that's very interesting, because you see, I've got thousands upon thousands of hours

00:03:23.640 of video, of documentary evidence, of network information that we put out into an entire

00:03:32.540 book.

00:03:33.220 I wrote about the Antifa, stories from within the Black Block, in 2021.

00:03:37.980 I infiltrated Chaz in 2020.

00:03:44.200 I was there when Raz Simone loaded his 9mm.

00:03:49.200 I was racing against people, drawing weapons in the midst of all of this.

00:03:56.380 Gone up against Antifa time and time and time again.

00:04:00.420 So, today we're going to talk all about the Antifa.

00:04:07.060 Who are they?

00:04:08.100 What are they?

00:04:09.120 Where did they come from?

00:04:11.440 Where are they now?

00:04:13.740 And it's very simple.

00:04:16.420 Antifa, the Antifa, anti-fascism.

00:04:21.200 This is their creed.

00:04:23.420 This is their marketing strategy.

00:04:25.800 And it always has been a marketing strategy for international communism, going all the

00:04:33.040 way back to the original founder of Antifa, Leon Trotsky.

00:04:38.820 The Bolsheviks were the founders of Antifa. 0.70

00:04:43.260 Antifa was meant to be the international arm of the communist revolution.

00:04:48.300 And the initial Antifa cells were funded and sourced from the Comintern, the Communist 0.77

00:04:56.140 International, and KGB elements where 1930s Germany and 1930s Spain.

00:05:03.880 This led to destabilization of the Weimar Republic, as well as destabilization efforts in Spain

00:05:11.360 that broke out into the Spanish Civil War, which was completely supported by the communists.

00:05:18.300 And it has always been such.

00:05:21.960 It's pretty simple.

00:05:23.460 They label their opponents fascists and then say that they are the anti-fascists fighting

00:05:30.100 against them.

00:05:31.140 But they're just communists.

00:05:32.880 And they always have been.

00:05:35.540 And I could sit here for hours going through chapter and verse of how this works.

00:05:40.580 And we need to understand that.

00:05:42.520 The right needs to understand what it is that we're up against.

00:05:45.820 And we need the right tools and the right rhetoric, the right words.

00:05:49.440 People say, you know, Posobiec, why are you so focused on words?

00:05:53.040 Why are you so, why are you pushed back?

00:05:54.520 And why are you so particular about words?

00:05:56.280 Because it's the words that control our thinking.

00:06:00.520 And if we use the right words, then we have the right thinking.

00:06:04.820 And we have the ability to create the right policy and the right strategy to actually go

00:06:11.000 after the problem.

00:06:12.040 So how do you go after a problem?

00:06:13.500 The first thing you have to do is diagnose it.

00:06:15.640 What is Antifa?

00:06:17.020 How is it that Antifa works?

00:06:19.520 What are these decentralized cells?

00:06:21.920 What are these front groups that are used?

00:06:25.260 Legal entities, NGOs, nonprofits that are set up in order to support Antifa operations, the

00:06:34.120 black blocks that you see in person, but also the financing and funding of legal cover

00:06:41.880 so that when they get caught and they go to trial or when they get caught and they get

00:06:47.000 put up, that they have the ability to claim, well, like they did in Washington, D.C., that

00:06:52.440 they were mass arrested and that wasn't fair.

00:06:55.500 So then those charges got dropped.

00:06:57.600 They sued with the help of the ACLU and the city of Washington gave them a million dollars

00:07:03.200 after they attacked President Trump's inauguration in Disrupt J20, his first in 2016, 2017, and

00:07:11.140 attacked my party, the deplorable.

00:07:15.000 Pete Hegseth was there, by the way.

00:07:16.920 He'll tell you all about it.

00:07:18.380 He was in the streets.

00:07:19.160 I'll be right back because we're going to get into all of this.

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00:07:42.380 All right, Jack Posobiec, we are back live human events daily.

00:07:48.920 We're here in Phoenix, Arizona, and we've got Blake Neff on, a Charlie Kirk Show producer,

00:07:54.900 and someone who has with me spent a lot of time talking about the history of Antifa, the

00:08:03.200 background of international communism and these groups as they were in their first iteration

00:08:09.260 as they were funded directly by Bolshevik Russia, 1930s Germany, 1930s Spain.

00:08:14.940 They were seeded.

00:08:16.180 That was what really gave rise to the destabilization of those and, of course, the Spanish Civil War

00:08:22.640 and then, you know, the fall of the Weimar Republic and the start of World War II in Germany.

00:08:29.120 But that's different from understanding what Antifa is today.

00:08:34.680 And so, Blake, the first thing that I think we have to address is that these people running

00:08:40.040 around and the left has already begun this mass gaslighting operation to say there's no

00:08:45.460 such thing as Antifa because Antifa is an idea.

00:08:48.520 And by the way, the first response, like we're kind of setting up the debates, I guess, maybe,

00:08:54.320 but also talking about investigative procedures that can be done.

00:08:56.920 And the first response is always, well, yes, so is radical Islam. 0.88

00:09:00.560 Like radical Islam is obviously an ideology and there are groups that espouse that.

00:09:05.040 That's what we're going after.

00:09:06.140 It's really not that complicated.

00:09:08.740 Yeah, it's not that complicated, but we should also concede there are, it's complex in the

00:09:14.200 sense that you can't just go out and say like, well, we're going to, you know, blacklist

00:09:18.520 Antifa and then, you know, you can't send money to the Antifa LLC anymore.

00:09:23.340 Uh, there's going to need to be seriousness in the sense that there are specific organizations

00:09:28.100 that adhere to this.

00:09:29.300 There are entities that, you know, operate in legal gray areas or act to aggressively

00:09:36.000 further illegal action.

00:09:38.600 Um, but some actually literally just do go by that name.

00:09:42.560 Like there is an Antifa group in Portland, Oregon is named Rose City Antifa.

00:09:46.940 I am at their .org page right now.

00:09:49.660 And groups like, and other names like Anti-Fascist Action is one you'll see.

00:09:53.500 Yeah, the, uh, the, the Seattle one has a name like that too.

00:09:56.500 Seattle Anti-Fascist Action is one.

00:09:58.280 Chicago has one.

00:09:59.840 Uh, Utah.

00:10:01.240 Mm-hmm.

00:10:02.320 Utah has one as well.

00:10:04.080 And, uh, uh, there's also, there's also a number of groups, um, that use the moniker

00:10:09.320 of John Brown Gun Club, uh, Socialist Rifle Alliance.

00:10:12.520 And that, again, they exist for these specific purpose and those exist for the specific purpose

00:10:18.880 of, uh, training militant, uh, training with arms and training militant cells for these

00:10:25.160 types of operations.

00:10:26.760 John Brown, a sort of proto-communist, uh, from, uh, the Civil War era and, or pre-Civil

00:10:32.180 War era.

00:10:32.560 And so the, the groups do exist and, and, uh, refuse fascism is another one, uh, which

00:10:38.840 is of course is just one, you know, slight word away from Antifa.

00:10:42.520 And the way that you go against these groups, and by the way, though, this isn't actually

00:10:48.260 anything new for the, uh, for the U.S. government.

00:10:52.360 Um, you know, for example, when, when Rudy Giuliani himself, who has been incredible in

00:10:57.500 the, uh, the fight to purge communists from our institutions and corporations in terms of

00:11:06.220 the, in the wake of Charlie's murder, um, he, when he went after the five families of the

00:11:11.140 mafia in New York, it's not like you just walk up to the mobsters and say, hello, can

00:11:15.300 you give us a list of everyone who was on the mob payroll?

00:11:18.780 Of course, that's not how it works.

00:11:19.960 That's obviously not how it works.

00:11:21.660 Um, and yet, but, and I remember also, by the way, and he tells the story that when he

00:11:26.000 first announced his original investigations against the mafia, the media also used to say

00:11:31.680 the mafia doesn't exist.

00:11:33.860 And, and yet, obviously we know that he did that.

00:11:36.600 And so it's so bizarre to hear it like doesn't exist when, for example, in, you know, 2020,

00:11:41.600 they were able to besiege a courthouse in Portland for months on end.

00:11:47.040 And, and like, there was, there were murders committed or the murderer is like, by the

00:11:51.920 way, I'm Antifa.

00:11:53.080 And they were able to do things like get him in contact with Vice.

00:11:55.960 That was the guy from Portland.

00:11:57.640 Yeah.

00:11:57.900 Michael, uh, or was that the, was the victim's name, Michael?

00:12:01.720 I can't remember exactly.

00:12:03.000 It was the one where Vice knew where the killer was and obscured his location.

00:12:07.600 And so, yeah, they eventually caught him.

00:12:08.960 I think it was like Olympia Park, Washington, but he had crossed the border.

00:12:11.980 So the marshals went out to go for him.

00:12:14.140 And he pulls a gun on them and, uh, then there was no more Antifa that Antifa went away.

00:12:19.860 And at least in that instance, and, and yes, Vice gave him this, this interview where he,

00:12:25.020 where he calmly spoke to them about how he stalked and targeted a Trump supporter and

00:12:32.220 shot him dead in the street in cold blood because he was wearing a Trump hat and had been,

00:12:36.360 had gone to this prayer meeting, you know, in 2020, just in the middle of the street.

00:12:41.380 And so, uh, and this, these types of symbology, these types of rhetoric, of course, go up to

00:12:49.960 and include the assassination of Charlie because, uh, a number of the bullets, half of the bullets,

00:12:57.100 you could say that were in this, uh, in this rifle had Antifa symbology on them.

00:13:03.200 So, uh, Hey, Fascist Catch. 0.59

00:13:05.540 I love how the, oh, well, that's a reference to a video game.

00:13:08.180 Oh, why'd he pick that reference from a video game?

00:13:10.860 Yeah. It's ridiculous. And, and then Bella Chow itself. So Bella Chow was an Italian communist 0.98

00:13:17.540 song from the, uh, from World War II and has since gone on to become, no, it's, it's a very popular

00:13:25.220 song in its own right. Um, it's, it's, it's good tune.

00:13:29.580 No, I was looking into it and it's so funny cause this is so common with a lot of this stuff.

00:13:32.980 Like it's a fake anti, it's like a fake World War II song. It's just a folk song and they gave it

00:13:37.860 the anti-fascist lyrics like after the war, basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So it was,

00:13:42.000 they, they try to read, this is what Antifa always does. So for example, when I, when they,

00:13:46.040 when I say Antifa comes from, uh, uh, Germany, they'll say, well, yeah, we were fighting the

00:13:50.880 fascists, but that's just not true because the original, the original iteration of Antifa was

00:13:55.420 fighting the Weimar Republic and the government. And in fact, there were multiple instances, uh,

00:14:00.820 including in Bavaria and other times where they would work with the national socialists

00:14:06.320 in, in sort of joint efforts, joint operations, joint direct action, as they would call it in

00:14:11.380 their parlance to, uh, just do things that would screw with the system or marches or strikes,

00:14:17.140 general strikes. And, and so Bella Chow has taken on. And so they just lie, which I mean,

00:14:22.800 communist, wow, who knew? Um, and so Bella Chow, that being said, has this dual role of, yes, 1.00

00:14:30.060 it is also a popular, very popular song in Europe. Uh, the Netflix show Money Heist has it as sort of

00:14:35.180 the theme song, but it is also the international anthem of Antifa. And you would have to be pretty

00:14:43.320 familiar with Antifa and Antifa symbology to know that that's just not something that the average

00:14:50.420 person would be like, Oh yeah, Antifa and their favorite song. You know, I know about that. It's,

00:14:56.260 I don't, I, it, it, this may be the very first time that people are even hearing that information.

00:15:01.320 And yet when you're in Antifa, uh, this is something that they fixate on quite a bit. Um,

00:15:07.640 it's, it's, you know, always very romantic. They're always telling stories about the Spanish

00:15:11.700 civil war and how close we came. We almost had it. Um, there, there's also a huge Antifa element

00:15:17.100 that goes to Rojava and in Kurdistan. And so they're, you know, directly tied to a lot of the

00:15:22.960 elements there. There's some ideological connections as well with Ojolan. Um, and, and,

00:15:28.800 and to be true, many of the militant members of Antifa would travel to Rojava would travel to

00:15:36.960 this area of Syria, uh, up there in Kurdistan and receive training from pro-Kurdish groups in

00:15:44.900 weapons and in tactics that we know they've come back to the United States. And for example,

00:15:51.360 one of them was participating in, uh, in the militant siege of Chaz up in Seattle.

00:15:56.860 So we can see these direct ties all over the place. And by the way, just in that instance,

00:16:02.420 right there, there are obvious international ties as well that would really open up what the

00:16:08.280 government is able to do. So Blake, I think we've established sort of how Antifa works.

00:16:13.480 There are front groups, some groups use the name, some groups don't, but it is a shared ideology.

00:16:18.340 And, and to be sure, shared tactics, which, so having, uh, a counterterrorism background from

00:16:24.680 when I was at Guantanamo, something that obviously, uh, funny enough, did you know that terrorists

00:16:29.680 don't usually operate in, uh, in the open that actually they try to hide the office.

00:16:34.480 You can't just go to their office in downtown, like the, the terror office.

00:16:38.260 It's not like the, the bureau, you know, the Bureau of Al Qaeda. It's no, actually they,

00:16:42.280 they do this all the time. So this is a, a very common, uh, a very common procedure and

00:16:48.920 art really to uncovering them. And of course they always lie. I'm not really a member.

00:16:53.420 Uh, this is part of their masking of their operations. And so what you have to do is peel

00:16:58.860 that away to, and one of the best ways to do that is following the tactics. Because when you see

00:17:04.580 black block, when you see the specific targeting that they do, when you see these, uh, what we call 0.95

00:17:10.660 tactics, techniques, and procedures, TTPs. So tracking TTP flow can be another way in terms

00:17:16.600 of a core. And in addition to, of course, the classic money communications, um, network trees,

00:17:23.340 all of that stuff that we're all very familiar with, that the government will now be able to use

00:17:28.820 to start mapping out these networks. Exactly. Exactly.

00:17:33.940 And so I think, I think we've got two minutes left on this segment. And I, I think we should also

00:17:39.400 start talking a little bit about how, just how the government has enormous powers that they can

00:17:45.480 bring to bear now. Yeah. And I mean, the most obvious thing you can do is like, once you,

00:17:51.080 once you're willing to mark, like, oh, this is actually like a highly, you know, problematic,

00:17:55.160 like pro terrorist activity, you know, you can just bluntly be like, yeah, we're going to start

00:17:58.920 looking much more aggressively at, you know, if you're directing money towards those ends,

00:18:05.000 if it seems like your primary purpose is to aid those ends, you know, what if we, what if we decided

00:18:11.520 to be like, Hey, you know, we're going to actually start thinking about what, why universities are

00:18:15.600 giving honorary degrees to Angela Davis, who basically was Antifa in like the late sixties

00:18:21.800 and seventies helped murder several people. Bill Ayers.

00:18:24.360 Uh, yeah. Bill Ayers, like a lot of these people, I don't know if there's any way we can still

00:18:28.960 prosecute these people many years later. Cause those were all like obvious hash jobs that they 0.99

00:18:33.620 screwed up. Oh, we can get creative. Yeah. That's I love, by the way, there's, there's that meme

00:18:37.300 about that. The Wikipedia page of like every domestic terrorist on the left is like social

00:18:42.580 activists is like, well, no, it's always like, it's always like early life goes to college,

00:18:47.980 participates in series of bombings. Yeah. And then it's like, uh, it goes to trial,

00:18:52.540 gets out on a technicality, gets hired by an Ivy league college. Like Bill Ayers had to like flee

00:18:58.720 the country for a while. And then he just came back and they'll, they'll be like, Oh, well,

00:19:02.560 like the FBI, like messed up some of the evidence. Okay. I don't think that would have stopped us

00:19:08.520 these days. No. And it's, and it's not going to stop us. And, and honestly, I think DHS could

00:19:13.820 perhaps take the lead here because again, this is a domestic terrorist organization and DHS

00:19:19.280 absolutely has the, uh, great, great authorities to do, to bring you bear. Right back. Jack

00:19:26.140 Posobiec, human events daily. You talk about influences. These are influences and, uh,

00:19:32.940 they're friends of mine. Jack Posobiec. Where's Jack? Jack. He's done a great job.

00:19:42.200 All right, Jack Posobiec. We are back live on human events daily. Uh, we were very honored

00:19:47.600 to have Megan Kelly joining us. Jack, how are you? It's been a week. It's, uh, it's certainly

00:19:54.080 been a week. Um, but oddly enough, it's like, I can hear Charlie's voice like, like in my

00:20:02.260 ear sometimes. And it's just keep going, keep going. Don't, don't stop. Don't, don't worry

00:20:09.800 about me. Yes. I'm, I'm where, I'm where God wants me. I'm doing, I'm doing other stuff.

00:20:14.940 I want another, I, wherever Charlie is, he's working. We know that. Yeah. No, I know what

00:20:20.740 you mean just doing the show today. You know, we talked so much about Charlie and then wrestled

00:20:25.440 before I got here about, do we do any other news? Do we do like regular news? And I was

00:20:30.300 like, there is no way Charlie would want us to skip the Jimmy Kimmel story. You know,

00:20:34.340 like that. No, no. He'd want us to have this moment of celebration. He'd want it. And he'd,

00:20:39.600 he'd want all of it. He'd want, he would honestly, I could even say, he's hearing him saying like,

00:20:44.800 okay, Jack, like take, take a day. Fine. Talk about what happened, but, but move on, move on.

00:20:49.500 Don't sit there. Yeah. And he, that's who he was though. It was, it was all about what's the next

00:20:54.780 thing? What's the next hill to climb? What's the next mountain we're going to conquer? And he would

00:21:01.520 always be looking to do that. He would take the, you know, he took Saturdays off and it was the,

00:21:06.060 but it was the most aggressive day off that you could ever think of. He's like, I'm checking stocks.

00:21:10.240 I'm looking at, you know, this thing, looking at this operation, what's going on. All right.

00:21:14.480 Family stuff, family stuff. Let's go, go, go. How did you guys meet? How did we meet? Um,

00:21:20.720 I think we met at a CPAC, you know, briefly for the very first time. And we just had a mutual contact,

00:21:27.540 you know, and is that, Hey, Jack, Charlie, Charlie, Jack, you know, and I was like, Hey,

00:21:31.960 appreciate your stuff. And then you just sort of move on. And then, uh, I was at some other event,

00:21:38.160 you know, in like 16 or 17. And I remember I picked him up at the airport. Funny enough,

00:21:42.120 it was an Ed Martin event. And when he was running the, uh, Eagle forum for Phyllis Schlafly

00:21:47.020 and he just needed a runner to go to the airport and said, Hey, can you go pick up Charlie Kirk?

00:21:53.020 And it's like, Oh yeah, yeah. I met Charlie, you know, a while back, you know, I'll go meet him.

00:21:56.420 And then, you know, you just sort of, you're on the circuit and then you keep bumping into each other.

00:22:02.380 And then eventually it just sort of, you just sort of realize that you're rowing in the same

00:22:06.980 direction and you get, you get closer, you know, and it's, it's that, that's my relationship with

00:22:14.520 Charlie, you know, it wasn't this sort of like, you know, Hey, let's go hang out and watch movies

00:22:19.180 kind of video games kind of relationship. Same, same. It's like, let's go, let's go into battle.

00:22:24.620 It's the nature of this business that there will be a bond between the people who are fighting for

00:22:29.200 the same causes as you are. You know, I mean, I feel like this is how you and I kind of became

00:22:34.260 friends, like over X after just being out there and plugging away every day and just seeing,

00:22:40.480 but you see somebody's character, you know, you see what they stand for. You see what they,

00:22:43.780 what they fight for and you can't miss, you know, what somebody actually stands for. If you've spent

00:22:49.540 enough time online or spending time listening to them. I just saw you at Charlie's turning point

00:22:54.060 event in July. Remember that we saw each other backstage and we all hugged. We had,

00:22:59.180 hadn't had a moment and it was so jubilant, you know, it was such a festive atmosphere.

00:23:04.600 You just would never have known this was hanging in the balance.

00:23:07.200 Yeah. I mean, you know, and I think back, so that was, I think that was the last time I actually saw

00:23:12.640 Charlie in person was that event. And, you know, there's, there's certain things that when you

00:23:19.160 bring them up and it's, it's tough because, you know, they say it comes in waves and there are times

00:23:24.360 when I'm just like, just in this past, it's been a week, I guess, you know, where I'm totally fine.

00:23:31.320 And I'm like, let's go. Hey, Antifa, finally, we've got the, we've got the green light on that,

00:23:37.660 which we've been gnawing on the, chomping at the bit for, for, you know, for years.

00:23:42.720 And, you know, and then I'll, I'll just some, some thing, some song or some reference or just a

00:23:51.080 certain phrase. And it's like, Oh, Charlie used to always say that, you know? And I don't know

00:23:55.180 about you, but I've been like refreshing X all the time for like news that it's not true.

00:24:01.220 You know, being here in the studio and where we spent and people, you know, the live streams that

00:24:09.440 we did here and, you know, the, you know, just, we would hours and hours, you know, Charlie was,

00:24:15.380 of course, famous for, you know, no breaks, no breaks. You know, you'd run to the bathroom and

00:24:19.220 run back. So he would go, you know, we'd go like four hours and he's like, all right, Jack, you've got

00:24:23.660 it. I don't run to the bathroom and then come back. All right. And then I would, then he would hold

00:24:26.800 down and then I would go and we just, but we'd never stop. And then, you know, coming and being

00:24:34.540 here every day, it's, it's hard, but it's, it's, it helps you focus at the same time. And I feel

00:24:42.140 like it's a really weird way. Like I'm kind of like, I think my wife will understand what I mean

00:24:48.280 when I say this, like, I'm glad I'm just not sitting around at home. And it, because when I'm

00:24:55.920 here, I associate it with work and doing the work, but I'll tell you one thing, I just keep

00:25:01.820 waiting for him to come through the door. Yeah, of course. I know me too. I'm like, when a news

00:25:07.680 story breaks, I, over the past eight days, I've been like, get Charlie, you know, you'd say that.

00:25:12.340 And he'd always say, yes, you could get him, you know, as busy as he was, he'd always say yes.

00:25:17.100 And you just know, like when you saw, it was so mutual. You knew, whenever you saw Charlie

00:25:22.340 Kirk lined up for the day, it was going to be a great show. It's going to be an easy show. He was

00:25:26.600 such a good talker. He was so clever. He was so funny. You know, you'd laugh, you'd, you'd hit

00:25:31.020 things hard. You'd have deep philosophical conversations on whatever issue you wanted to

00:25:36.040 go deep on. He could, there was nothing he couldn't do. And I don't know, and I say this completely

00:25:41.200 platonically, but I just fell in love with him. You know, you fall in love with Charlie to know him

00:25:45.340 is to fall in love with him. I mean, I'm sure you can relate. It's like everything about him

00:25:50.220 was likable and lovable that you can't say that about virtually anybody, right? It's

00:25:55.320 like, we all have our dark sides. And I, I didn't. And it's, it's, it's, I still keep

00:26:00.140 like, it's, it's like right out of the corner of my ear. And I'm just wait. Cause, cause

00:26:03.720 whenever Charlie would burst in, it was a burst. It was like, boom, the energy just gets ratcheted

00:26:08.800 up. And he's like, boom, boom, boom. Are we up? Are we live? Is this going on? Is this

00:26:13.020 guest coming? Are we taking this feed? Are we on that? Do we have the clips? Do you have

00:26:16.080 it? And then you just, and then you're in and it's like, you're on a rocket ship.

00:26:19.640 Yeah. And, and Charlie's driving and we're all going to this destination and you better

00:26:24.740 buckle up because, you know, if you're not on board, like you're going to get, you know,

00:26:30.100 you're going to get washed over. And, and it was great.

00:26:32.860 Yeah. The first time I saw him in person was at behind the scenes at a turning point event.

00:26:36.980 And I was like, is that, that's his go gear? Like I knew Charlie didn't do drugs and didn't

00:26:44.820 drink alcohol or anything like that. But I'm like, if you didn't know him, you'd think he

00:26:47.900 was on some sort of massive speed ball because he was just, I got this and I got that and

00:26:52.920 I can do this. And he knew everybody's name and he was so well organized.

00:26:55.560 You know, he was off caffeine.

00:26:57.120 What?

00:26:57.820 He had done, I think for at least a year, he hadn't had caffeine.

00:27:01.440 That, that, that cup, that, that's a, that's a mint tea.

00:27:04.040 Yeah, that's right. That was a, that was a, it's selling out right now at Starbucks across

00:27:07.380 the country.

00:27:08.320 Megan, I know you've got to run, um, but thank you. Just thank you for being here. Sunday?

00:27:14.500 Yeah. Yeah. I'll be there.

00:27:15.520 All right. I'll be there.

00:27:16.320 Much love to you, Jack. Thanks for having me.

00:27:18.020 God bless. I'm back at you.

00:27:22.960 Jack. Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you.

00:27:31.940 Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're

00:27:37.060 always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the guys who

00:27:41.800 be getting policies. All right, folks, we're back here. Human events daily real America's

00:27:50.480 voice. I want to say thank you to the entire staff at real America's voice, as well as

00:27:54.300 turning point and, uh, and the Charlie Kirk show, the studio, just everything that they've

00:28:00.240 been stepping up and doing this entire week. The fact that they've had to, um, deal with

00:28:09.940 unspeakable horror, many, and I'm just going to say it. Many of the people that are working

00:28:16.660 here every day, we're at the event. Many of the people who were there, Blake was there

00:28:20.680 and, and yes, they saw it and they're still going. They're still going for Charlie and someone

00:28:30.180 else who has gone through more than any of us is Mrs. Erica Kirk. And I heard the news

00:28:44.000 last night, going to admit, I heard the news last night and I was like, I mean, I had to

00:28:51.240 tie my hands together so that I didn't tweet it out because I was so excited and I was so

00:28:57.820 happy when the decision came down that Erica Kirk would be named the chair and CEO of turning

00:29:05.540 point USA. I mean, if you know, Erica, if you've got to meet Erica, and I think people

00:29:12.620 are sort of, you know, publicly getting to meet her for the first time, but she's, she's

00:29:19.100 so warm and so loving and yet so strong. And ever since she became a mother, you can

00:29:27.400 just see this strength that exudes from her and in the way that motherhood does for, for

00:29:35.460 the best moms, it makes them better people. It makes them more complete. I've seen it. 0.61

00:29:39.780 I'm speaking of experience, you know, having seen that same change in my own wife, Tanya

00:29:43.740 Tay. And, you know, I've seen her a few times as well in the wake of this and the way she's

00:29:54.680 dealing with it, the tragedy, the grief, but also the anger and the resolve, the fortitude

00:30:05.220 to understand that we stay the course, that Charlie's mission is now our mission. And Charlie

00:30:15.420 wanted her. Charlie wanted her to do this. Should anything happen to him? He said that.

00:30:23.620 And it's the right pick, not only for the organization, not only for, to honor Charlie, but it's the

00:30:36.060 right pick because she's the right person to fill that role. And I think in a way, in

00:30:41.120 a, in a way that perhaps only he understood that when Charlie first picked Erica to be his

00:30:50.660 wife to, you know, get together, get engaged, that he knew he could see it in her, that she

00:31:04.920 had everything, absolutely everything to take the reins, to carry the, his torch. And so we're

00:31:15.180 going to do everything that we can. I know I'm going to do everything I can to support turning

00:31:19.760 point to continue to support turning point, to step up and make sure that all of the interest

00:31:28.300 and the outpouring of generosity that's been flowing to the organization makes it so that

00:31:37.240 Charlie's mission never ends, that the work never ends, that the fight never ends. That

00:31:45.560 is absolutely what Charlie would have wanted. And it's, it's just incredible to see. It's,

00:31:53.900 it's amazing that she even has the ability to do this.

00:31:57.100 And I couldn't be happier in the sense that, um, the sense that I, I don't want any of this to

00:32:06.760 happen, but I couldn't be happier that this was the move that the organization made and that she

00:32:12.220 has accepted. Uh, I want to bring on our next guest. Now I'm told that we have Senator Mark Wayne

00:32:17.560 Mullen is joining us. Senator, are you there? Hey Jack, how are you doing brother? Senator,

00:32:24.860 thanks so much for, for being here. Um, I'd love to get your reaction if possible. I know that,

00:32:29.000 you know, Charlie and Erica to this, this news that, uh, Erica Kirk will be taking the reins at

00:32:33.520 turning point. Well, I, I had the privilege of knowing Charlie, you know, very well, uh, Erica,

00:32:39.780 I didn't get the privilege of, of knowing her like I wanted to just met her a few times,

00:32:42.820 but, um, what a perfect, what a perfect individual to carry on her husband's legacy. I, I think one

00:32:49.740 of the, one thing that all you need to see doesn't know the relationship that, uh, Erica had with,

00:32:56.660 with Charlie is when Charlie, um, announced to the world that he was engaged to her and the look on

00:33:03.680 her face, look on her face when he walked in and saying, I can't do this. I can't do this with you

00:33:08.800 looking at me like this. I, and she, she just had this love and this all about him and who he was.

00:33:14.880 Uh, and then, and then to see her strength when she stood up and addressed the world, uh, and,

00:33:23.680 and, and, and you saw the turning point USA's chapters just go through the roof of people wanting

00:33:30.600 to, uh, to, to be part of it. There's no question that she needed to take the reins that she was the

00:33:37.280 right person. And, and Charlie saw strengthen her. Charlie loved her. Um, they both had a vision

00:33:44.440 and a love for, for the outreach because it was outreach that Charlie had out and Charlie reached

00:33:49.580 out to the young people, reached out to the world, preached the gospel, uh, would, would,

00:33:54.480 would witness to anyone, uh, was a mentor and, and by his side, actually, I'm not, I would say hand

00:34:01.400 in hand, uh, hand in hand, they did it together. And so there's, this is, this is the right move.

00:34:08.960 And this is the direction that turning point is going to go global.

00:34:15.380 Well, you know, I think that's right. And, and I, I haven't really, uh, revealed much of what's

00:34:20.580 going on behind the scenes, but I I've even been fielding, uh, a lot of those requests and messages

00:34:27.180 from overseas, particularly in Europe, but also in, in Asia, uh, South Korea and Japan, where Charlie

00:34:32.620 held his last couple of stops as a, as a matter of fact, where people are saying, how do we start

00:34:37.100 turning points over here? How do we do it? How do we get involved? How do we get? So, so actually the,

00:34:41.700 you know, the, the, the organization is going to be even bigger than when Charlie was at the helm.

00:34:47.920 And I think that, I think that Erica is absolutely the person to make sure that whatever comes next,

00:34:54.800 that this organization stays true to those ideals that, uh, that Charlie built it upon. And, and to

00:35:03.700 be sure the entire team is staying on, uh, everyone who built this thing is behind Erica a hundred

00:35:09.860 percent. And Jack, this isn't just about Charlie Kirk's legacy. This is to continue the movement.

00:35:16.800 This is to continue what, what Charlie built. Charlie wouldn't want it about his legacy. He wants to see

00:35:22.360 that the mission that he started, the vision that he started continues and grow. Cause it wasn't too

00:35:28.780 long ago that Charlie, he, he wanted to be on every campus, high school campus in the United States.

00:35:34.980 Uh, I think there's somewhere around 23,000 plus campuses in the United States. And the last time

00:35:39.860 I checked, uh, the last time I saw Andrew put out a, put out a message out on, on X, there was something

00:35:47.760 like 57,000 requests, uh, for turning point USA chapters. I don't know how that number, that number

00:35:55.620 changes by the minute. So I know we only have a couple of minutes with you left. I did want to ask

00:36:00.760 you, we do have news of the day and, uh, I can hear Charlie in my ear saying, Jack, Jack, don't,

00:36:05.640 don't, don't forget to ask the center about the news today. So, um, this, this rule change regarding the

00:36:10.980 president's nominees, many of which have been languishing, uh, in terms of confirmation, talk to us

00:36:16.720 about this new Senate rule change and how important it is. So what we're doing is restoring the norms

00:36:22.960 of the Senate, the history, Jack, real quick, uh, 98%, uh, actually over 90% of, uh, uh, non-essential,

00:36:31.320 which I mean, they're all essential, but I mean, um, non-cabinet members, non-judicial members,

00:36:35.280 what we call a civilian noms were over 90% was voice voted since Obama. The first time that didn't

00:36:43.060 happen, or I'd say previous to Obama, the first time it didn't happen is when Trump was in office.

00:36:48.120 Only 60% of his, uh, civilian noms went through. And, and, and this is the first time ever in history

00:36:55.340 that no one, not one single person has been able to go through by voice or unanimous consent. So Chuck

00:37:01.480 Schumer has went nuclear on the, on, on the Senate. What we have done now is we've said, okay, since you're not

00:37:06.820 going to let the norms continue, we're going to do a rules change. Leader Thune made this very clear

00:37:11.520 at the beginning of Congress. He said, we can either do this hard way or we can do this easy

00:37:15.540 way. Chuck Schumer decided to do it the hard way. We're responding to it at, uh, in probably

00:37:21.160 15 minutes or, or within 15 to 30 minutes from right now, we'll do the first in block where we're

00:37:27.140 going to confirm 48 individuals at once, uh, for these nominees. We're going to come back later and

00:37:33.740 do 103 on another in block. We will have all the backlog done by the time we get probably

00:37:41.520 uh, mid, uh, October. And then we'll be waiting on the president to send us more noms. We will be

00:37:47.820 able to get everybody that he has, he has, um, on the list. As long as that paperwork is done,

00:37:53.620 we'll be able to get them through almost immediately. Well, I, Senator, that's incredible.

00:37:58.500 I mean, you, you look at those nominations and the fact that here we are sitting in September,

00:38:04.120 president Trump made the nominations over a rolling course of weeks at the beginning of the year.

00:38:09.320 That was all the way back in January. I mean, it's, it seems inconceivable, I think to the

00:38:14.680 average American to say, wait a minute, you know, what's the government doing? How's the agenda being

00:38:18.880 working for it worked forward. And they're still having open positions that exist, uh, all so many

00:38:25.520 months, almost 10 months now into the admin. This is what the people voted for. Right. Well, but,

00:38:30.120 but Chuck Schumer, you got to remember what's going through Chuck Schumer, his mind is, is that the

00:38:33.960 American people got it wrong. I know best. So instead of giving the American people what they 1.00

00:38:38.780 chose by saying, we want Trump's administration and kick out the bones from the Biden administration,

00:38:44.160 Chuck Schumer is saying, you got it wrong. We're going to slow roll this and keep these, keep these,

00:38:48.600 uh, Biden appointees in place. That's, that's not what the American people want. That's why they

00:38:54.640 kicked the Democrats out of control last November. And hopefully in, in 12 months from that election

00:39:00.720 that happened last year, we're going to have president Trump's, um, uh, uh, uh, people in

00:39:06.800 place and continuously putting this country back on track. And, and that's what it is because of

00:39:14.080 course, going into midterms, uh, we'll, we'll start up very soon. The political process, one third of

00:39:19.460 the Senate as it is, it's very simple, I think. And, and talk to me about this though, Senator,

00:39:25.200 the idea that it's that people are saying, you know what, those were the, the new norm. It's,

00:39:32.920 it's got to get thrown out the book about the window because these senators, these Democrats

00:39:37.200 are sitting there trying to hold up the process and they know they're doing so on purpose.

00:39:43.160 Yeah. It's, it's, it's about having to go around the obstruction. It's so many of these people have

00:39:48.020 had too much pride in the name being a Senator and they forgot that they're serving the American

00:39:53.100 people. The title means nothing. You, you mean it means nothing. If you're not doing what's best

00:40:00.320 for America, you are serving yourself. And that is what's happening up here with the old guards

00:40:05.960 like Chuck Schumer that has forgot what his role is. He's, he's to support what the American people

00:40:12.380 chose. American people chose president Trump to lead this country in a direction which is completely

00:40:18.300 opposite to what his radical Democrats did. And instead he thinks he's more important than the

00:40:24.700 voters of the United States. And so we are, leader Thune has a different mindset than, than, than a lot

00:40:32.260 of other leaders have been up here. He's going, we're going to restore the norms. We're going to get

00:40:36.860 the Senate working for the American people again. And that's exactly what has happened. That hasn't

00:40:42.680 happened quite some time. We've had leaders on both sides that, that was interested on their direction

00:40:48.140 that they thought America should go to rather than leading, uh, uh, uh, allowing the American people to

00:40:54.000 choose the agenda and then were to carry up the agenda that they chose. You'd think that would be

00:41:00.660 simple, but as we know, uh, when the power flows from the people to Washington DC, suddenly that town,

00:41:09.420 the beltway up there has a way of, of making the symbol so much more complex.

00:41:15.000 It's the way that the Senate is set up. I mean, I'd love, I, I, I, I feel honored to be in the

00:41:20.360 Senate. It is not my life. It's not what I, it's not what I'm going to do my whole life, but it's an

00:41:25.960 honor to serve. But the way that it is set up different than the house, the house, you can, you can be a

00:41:31.680 chair of a committee because you get more people to vote for you. And you, so by a, by, and when you're a

00:41:36.540 sophomore, you can become a chair of committee. The way it works here in the Senate is the longer

00:41:40.840 you sit on the committee, you'll eventually become the chairman. That doesn't mean you're the best

00:41:44.680 person for the position. You just outlived everybody else. When they get there, it's becomes

00:41:50.060 territorial. They feel like they've earned it because they've sat there longer than everybody

00:41:54.380 else. And there that's when their, their own personal agenda gets in the way of the American

00:41:59.160 people's agenda. And, and, and I'm not throwing any colleagues underneath the bus. It's just that

00:42:04.160 Leader Thune has said now, we're moving a different direction. We're going to work for the American

00:42:10.180 people. And he is, he is doing everything he can to make sure that the Senate works efficiently

00:42:15.400 for the people again. And I, I am thrilled to be able to be part of it.

00:42:21.240 That's right. Look, we've got operational control of the border. I think now it's time that we ought to

00:42:26.000 take operational control of the federal government. So thank you, Senator, for your hard work on behalf of

00:42:31.800 the American people, the American voter, the American taxpayer as well. God bless Senator and

00:42:37.360 Godspeed.

00:42:38.540 Jack, thank you. And I'll see you Sunday, brother.

00:42:41.340 I'll see you. We'll be, we'll be there. Wouldn't miss it for the world. And that's right,

00:42:46.400 folks, this Sunday, of course, as everyone knows the memorial for Charlie Kirk, the funeral

00:42:53.260 for Charlie Kirk, we've set up and established fight for charlie.com. So if you're trying to come,

00:43:00.400 look, I understand it's going to be very, very, very well attended. This will be the largest event

00:43:08.820 in turning point history, the first full stadium show or, or, you know, events that has been held

00:43:16.620 for turning point. And even if you can't come, you want to support there are ways to do that on fight for

00:43:22.940 charlie.com. And of course, every single bit of that is appreciated because all of it, all of it

00:43:29.780 goes towards making sure not only the Charlie's legacy is honored, but that Charlie's legacy

00:43:36.800 continues. And the best way to do that is to continue the work of turning point USA, taking 0.78

00:43:44.280 his life's work. And, and think about that for a minute. This is Charlie's life's work. It's turning

00:43:52.880 point. It's his legacy. It is what he leaves on the world. Perhaps, perhaps one day Erica will be able

00:44:02.900 to pass it on to the children. If they want, you know, that's a story for another day, as they say.

00:44:09.820 But that's what turning point is. Turning point was always meant to be passed on to the next

00:44:16.400 generation, because it was all about investing in the next generation, training the next generation,

00:44:21.960 finding those leaders, finding that talent that was able to come up.

00:44:26.960 That believed in the truth, that believed in American principles, that believed in the American

00:44:34.320 nation, that believed in the American founding fathers, that believed in our religious heritage,

00:44:40.860 the heritage of the Holy Bible, upon which all of Western civilization rests. Something, by the way,

00:44:49.200 that we've been slipping away from. And I know that Charlie, and certainly I, have been calling this out

00:44:55.600 for months prior to his assassination. And so that's why this event on Sunday is so important,

00:45:07.620 because we are in the turning point. We're in it right now. It's going to be covered on all the news.

00:45:15.740 It's going to be in all of it. Everyone's going to be seeing it. But again, as important as this event is,

00:45:25.600 there is a possibility that the event is a failure. And what do I mean by that? Sure, there's going to

00:45:32.140 be a lot of people there. There's going to be incredible speeches. But if you want this event

00:45:37.620 to be a success, which is what we all want, you must turn your anger and your sorrow into action.

00:45:48.160 You must take those emotions, take the horrific evil that was visited upon the Kirk family

00:45:55.560 and turn it into something good. Turn it into something true. Turn it into something real.

00:46:04.320 Get motivated. Get active. And if there isn't a turning point chapter in your

00:46:09.460 school or in your high school or even in your area, I don't know if they have local turning point chapters yet,

00:46:17.780 but might as well just have to do them anyway. Sorry, Tyler. I just invented something. I just

00:46:24.500 created more work for you. We're going to do it. We're going to do all of it for Charlie.

00:46:31.360 And I'm very pleased to announce that just minutes after Senator Mark Wayne Wollin has

00:46:39.300 stepped off camera here, the US Senate has just unanimously established October 14th as the

00:46:50.140 National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk. October 14th is Charlie's birthday. I couldn't think

00:46:58.120 of a day that's more fitting than that. And I certainly hope we'll see. That seems like that

00:47:05.540 could be a good day for Erica to head to Washington, D.C. to posthumously receive the Presidential Medal 0.98

00:47:14.980 of Freedom for her husband. They might do it this Sunday. We'll see. But if they don't do it this

00:47:21.640 Sunday, I would say, do it then. Do it in Washington. So that Charlie has won the same

00:47:29.360 way that Rush did. The highest civilian honor that the president can bestow. And show me someone who

00:47:38.200 deserves it more than Charlie. You can't. You absolutely can't. So that's my message. Get

00:47:45.240 activated. Get focused. And when it comes to Antifa, be warned. You're on notice.

00:47:57.200 I wasn't being facetious earlier when I said the Department of Homeland Security

00:48:00.820 could play a huge role here. Domestic terrorism, domestic extremism. This is a massive, massive role

00:48:10.900 for DHS. They have authorities. They have operations that can be brought to bear against

00:48:18.100 the various constellation of organizations and front groups that constitute the Antifa threat.

00:48:26.320 Yes, obviously, Antifa is an ideology. It is an ideology shared by various groups that are organized,

00:48:33.980 some who use the name, some who don't, to perpetuate domestic terrorism and domestic terrorist

00:48:39.940 ideology in our country. And it will be rooted out, root and stem from our nation because they declared

00:48:49.420 war on our nation. They shot and killed Charlie Kirk. I saw a leftist murder Charlie Kirk and I saw them

00:49:03.540 celebrate it. We all did. And fix that in your mind. The singular point. This has gone mainstream

00:49:20.960 and there are operatives, there are individuals, there are groups, there are funding networks.

00:49:26.920 All of it will be disrupted. All of it. It will be cast asunder. There will be not one brick left of this

00:49:39.460 edifice when we are done. It's really simple. Leave now. If you're a member of one of these groups,

00:49:50.800 if you're involved in this type of activity, walk away. Do the right thing. Maybe, maybe you could even

00:50:03.440 help us. Remember, whoever flips first gets the best deal. So we'll see. We will see. But I promise you

00:50:15.980 this. If you don't, you will not see us coming until it's too late. Because we're not going to stop. At all.

00:50:29.400 Until one night, get a knock on your door. And then it's time to go.

00:50:39.840 Sleep tight. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay short.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - September 18, 2025

ANTIFA - The Domestic Terrorist Organization and the Leftist Who Murdered Charlie Kirk

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