Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - April 21, 2022


APR 21 2022 – WHO HAS SOVEREIGNTY, THE PEOPLE OR CORPORATIONS?


Episode Stats

Length

23 minutes

Words per Minute

170.26677

Word Count

3,936

Sentence Count

346

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

Colorado Governor Jared Paulus offers Disney asylum as he urges them to leave Florida. Next, a Saudi prince says he will not release more oil into the US market amid declining U.S. relations with Saudi Arabia. Third, Johnny Depp testifies in the defamation trial against ex-wife Amber Heard. And finally, Alec Baldwin claims he s been exonerated over Helena Hutchins' death. All this and more on today s Human Events Daily with Chacho Chavez ( )!


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily, powered by Turning Point USA.
00:00:06.880 Today's April 21st, 2022, Anno Domine.
00:00:09.860 Today's top headlines.
00:00:11.120 First, the Colorado governor, Jared Paulus, offers Disney asylum as he urges Disney to leave Florida.
00:00:17.920 Next, Saudi Prince says he will not release more oil into the U.S. market amid declining U.S.-Saudi relations because of Biden's bumbling.
00:00:26.200 Third, Johnny Depp testifying in the defamation trial against ex-wife Amber Heard.
00:00:31.720 And what does this have to do with The Washington Post?
00:00:34.500 And then finally, Alec Baldwin claiming he's been exonerated over this new report in Helena Hutchins' death.
00:00:40.500 But has he really?
00:00:41.700 All this and more ahead, Human Events Daily.
00:00:43.200 Well, Governor Jared Paulus of Colorado has responded now to Ron DeSantis over this whole flap with Disney.
00:01:04.200 So what's he getting into, right?
00:01:05.400 So he tweets it out, Jared Paulus, Florida's authoritarian socialist attacks on the private sector are driving businesses in a way.
00:01:16.280 In Colorado, we don't meddle in the affairs of companies like Disney or Twitter.
00:01:21.620 Hey, Disney, we're ready for Mountain Disneyland.
00:01:24.540 And Twitter, we're ready for Twitter HQ2, whoever your owners are.
00:01:28.780 So there's a lot to go through here, a lot to break down.
00:01:32.640 Number one, we don't meddle in the affairs of the private sector.
00:01:38.040 Are you kidding me?
00:01:39.740 Show me any business anywhere in the United States at any level that doesn't have to go through government regulations, government red tape, government restrictions, taxes, the whole nine yards.
00:01:51.880 Taxes, tax credits, compliance, noncompliance.
00:01:54.420 It's a joke.
00:01:55.100 So it's obviously a joke that companies don't have any, well, meddle in with this.
00:02:00.720 That's a socialist thing to do, meddle with our companies.
00:02:03.660 Yeah, cut me a break, dude.
00:02:05.240 Every single company in the entire country that's ever existed, going back to like the 1700s, had to deal with some form of government, quote unquote, meddling.
00:02:14.880 And this idea of a laissez-faire, you know, government, there's nothing, it doesn't exist.
00:02:20.980 It literally doesn't exist.
00:02:22.460 It only exists on paper.
00:02:24.340 It's never been a thing in the real world, period.
00:02:27.640 So I know that, you know, marijuana is legal over there in Colorado now.
00:02:32.300 So I don't know if Jared Paulus maybe was dipping his beak a little bit in when he wrote this tweet.
00:02:38.820 But that's kind of what it feels like, because what he's saying literally makes no sense.
00:02:44.840 That being said, authoritarian socialism, really authoritarian socialism, because yet that's actually the opposite of socialism, because what's Governor DeSantis doing?
00:02:57.640 Yes, he's using the power of government.
00:02:59.400 Yes, he's using this as a lever of power.
00:03:01.120 But what's he actually doing in the effective cause?
00:03:05.000 The effective cause of what he's doing is to take away a special governance status from Disney that was granted to him by the state of Florida to begin with, 55 years ago.
00:03:19.860 So this law that DeSantis essentially is repealing was put in place as a special status for Disney to give them self-governance over the area that later became Walt Disney World, right?
00:03:31.000 They have that as a special status granted to them by the government.
00:03:36.500 This whole thing started with government.
00:03:38.080 It has nothing to do with, you know, authoritarian socialism attacks.
00:03:42.680 Not even.
00:03:43.720 All he's saying is, guess what?
00:03:46.060 We're going to actually treat Disney the same way we treat every single other company in the state of Florida.
00:03:53.400 And why shouldn't we?
00:03:54.880 Why shouldn't we?
00:03:56.100 Because Disney is acting like they're their own government.
00:03:59.840 Well, let me tell you something.
00:04:01.000 To the people at Disney, and I said it yesterday, you are not a sovereign government.
00:04:07.620 You do not have sovereignty.
00:04:09.460 State of Florida has sovereignty.
00:04:11.400 The United States of America has sovereignty.
00:04:13.700 Corporate power is not sovereign.
00:04:15.500 And it's finally time that conservatives like Governor DeSantis stand up and use those sovereign rights that are granted to them by the people of Florida, empowered by the Constitution of the state of Florida, the same way that all 50 states have their state constitutions empowering them, right?
00:04:34.780 Empowered through our system of federalism and the constitutional republic in which we reside.
00:04:41.000 That's our system.
00:04:42.540 Go read through any of the constitutions, right?
00:04:45.860 The states or the federal government.
00:04:47.100 You will not see anything in there that says Disney World gets sovereignty.
00:04:51.860 Doesn't work that way.
00:04:52.880 Literally doesn't work that way.
00:04:54.560 So you're kind of wrong.
00:04:56.160 Maybe you need to go listen to Freedom Papers with Morgan Zegers a little bit to understand how our government actually works or is supposed to work.
00:05:03.160 Because when a government gives you a special handout, like, and by the way, he mentioned Twitter again, Section 230, again, that's immunity that's granted by the government, immunity from several sets of laws.
00:05:15.800 That's also a special status that's been granted by government.
00:05:19.920 If we're taking away something that government gave you and treating you the same way that we would treat any other company, that's not socialism.
00:05:28.780 That's actually the opposite of that.
00:05:31.300 But I'll do you one further.
00:05:32.400 I'll do you one further.
00:05:34.560 I have no problem with conservatives using the power of government to bring these woke and out-of-control corporations to power, to heel.
00:05:43.960 It's time.
00:05:45.140 They've gotten too powerful.
00:05:46.640 They're switching around too much weight.
00:05:48.540 They're shifting around too much weight.
00:05:49.940 They're trying to act like they have sovereignty.
00:05:52.020 No one elected them.
00:05:53.300 It's time to start bringing them down to size.
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00:07:17.380 And I would make it very clear, we were not going to, in fact, sell more weapons to them.
00:07:22.700 We were going to, in fact, make them pay the price and make them, in fact, the pariah that they are.
00:07:29.040 There's very little social redeeming value in the present government in Saudi Arabia.
00:07:35.180 Well, the Wall Street Journal is out with an incredible piece.
00:07:38.260 How the U.S.-Saudi relations reached the breaking point.
00:07:42.300 Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman essentially threw Jake Sullivan, Biden's national security advisor,
00:07:48.980 out of a meeting at a seaside palace that they were holding last September.
00:07:54.240 It says the 36-year-old Crown Prince ended up shouting at Mr. Sullivan after he raised the 2018 killing of Saudi Jamal Khashoggi.
00:08:03.500 The prince told Mr. Sullivan he never wanted to discuss the matter again,
00:08:07.780 and the U.S. could forget about its request to boost oil production.
00:08:11.720 The Biden administration's foreign policy, when it comes to pretty much everywhere in the world, is completely insane.
00:08:19.180 These people have, so when you look at what they're doing in Saudi, so Biden has said during the debates,
00:08:24.800 he said that he would hold them all accountable, he would treat them as a pariah.
00:08:27.740 You see him using that same language for Russia right now.
00:08:30.020 So he said that they released a report all about the killing of Khashoggi.
00:08:34.640 They attack them.
00:08:35.820 They're demeaning them.
00:08:36.700 They're demonizing them.
00:08:38.420 And then they go out hat in hand.
00:08:40.400 Oh, by the way, they pulled the air defense missile systems from the kingdom of Saudi Arabia back to the United States.
00:08:48.440 And then they go hat in hand and say, please, please, please, will you continue to up your oil production?
00:08:53.980 It's like it's it's it's absolutely bipolar because keep in mind, on one hand, they're trying to tell the Saudis what to do.
00:09:02.160 We're not buying as much oil from Saudi as we used to.
00:09:05.120 Saudi is now buying more oil from or selling more oil to China.
00:09:08.940 The CCP is a far bigger strategic partner for them than we ever were.
00:09:14.580 And the CCP is going to sit there and say, we don't care what you do.
00:09:18.680 We don't care what happens internally.
00:09:20.600 You have somebody you want to get rid of.
00:09:22.220 You know, we don't care.
00:09:23.980 The CCP might take notes from the Saudis when it comes to that stuff.
00:09:28.640 It's all about money for them.
00:09:31.480 Meanwhile, the Biden administration is also reviving the Iran deal.
00:09:35.080 How do you think the Saudis feel about that?
00:09:37.680 How do you think the Saudis feel about Iran getting nuclear weapons?
00:09:41.780 Right.
00:09:42.700 And then you go over there and point your finger and start telling them what they're going to do and attacking them at the same time.
00:09:48.500 These people are highly educated imbeciles.
00:09:52.620 I keep saying this about Secretary of State Tony Blinken and Jake Sullivan, who we know, by the way, was involved in the dossier operation all the way back in 2016.
00:10:01.280 He's even somehow even dumber, somehow actually even dumber than Tony Blinken.
00:10:07.060 It's like it's like it's like the you know, the apple keeps falling down.
00:10:10.420 So first you get Tony Blinken.
00:10:12.360 Then even dumber that is is Jake Sullivan.
00:10:14.520 And then finally you get Joe Biden, who's just done most of them all.
00:10:17.460 Jill Biden's got to tell him to wave at the Easter Bunny.
00:10:19.740 Right.
00:10:20.060 So when you're looking at this, you step back for a second, you realize these are the people that are running our foreign policy.
00:10:27.740 These people running our country.
00:10:29.380 These are the people who are making decisions for three hundred fifteen million Americans.
00:10:35.760 The number, of course, is going up because our borders are being poured across and they're talking about lifting Title 42 to actually stop catching people and then sending them back.
00:10:45.680 Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful job that you're doing there as a president holding our foreign policy.
00:10:52.100 You know, we used to have a president that talked about peace.
00:10:54.160 We used to have a president that went to Saudi to the Saudis and said, you guys should deal with the radical jihadist problem in your area and we'll work with you.
00:11:02.520 But it should be your job.
00:11:04.240 We used to have a president that talked about peace deals in the Middle East, in Asia and in Europe.
00:11:09.500 Wouldn't it be nice to have a president like that again?
00:11:11.320 I didn't punch you, by the way.
00:11:17.400 I'm sorry that I didn't hit you across the face in a proper slap, but I was hitting you.
00:11:23.580 It was not punching you.
00:11:24.740 Babe, you're not punched.
00:11:26.840 Don't tell me what it feels like to be punched.
00:11:29.280 You know, even a lot of fights have been around a long time.
00:11:32.200 I know.
00:11:32.840 No, when you have a close face.
00:11:34.460 You didn't get punched.
00:11:35.680 You got hit.
00:11:36.300 I'm sorry I hit you like this, but I did not punch you.
00:11:39.260 I did not deck you.
00:11:41.360 I was hitting you.
00:11:43.000 I don't know what the motion of my actual hand was, but you're fine.
00:11:48.440 I did not hurt you.
00:11:49.440 I did not punch you.
00:11:50.380 I was hitting you.
00:11:51.900 What am I supposed to do?
00:11:53.400 Do this?
00:11:54.300 I'm not sitting here about it, am I?
00:11:56.180 You are.
00:11:56.720 That's the difference between me and you.
00:11:58.580 You're a baby.
00:11:59.380 So what you just heard is a recording of Amber Heard mocking Johnny Depp after she battered him during one of their many arguments during the brief marriage.
00:12:11.060 So you're going to say, I know I get it.
00:12:13.580 You're going to say, Poso, why are you talking about this?
00:12:15.620 What is it?
00:12:16.000 It has to do with nothing, right?
00:12:17.920 Why are you talking about Johnny Depp Amber?
00:12:19.480 I'm going to tell you something.
00:12:20.140 I'm going to tell you right now why we're going to talk about this.
00:12:22.580 Because every single one of you in your life has experienced or knows somebody who is a Johnny Depp that's stuck in a relationship with an Amber Heard.
00:12:36.280 Because this is a teachable moment.
00:12:39.340 And because it happens to involve two people that are incredibly famous celebrities.
00:12:47.580 One, you know, I get that a lot of Gen Z doesn't quite get why Johnny Depp is such a big deal.
00:12:51.800 He was literally the most famous actor in the world for like 15 years, right?
00:12:58.860 And so Amber Heard, you know, obviously trying to use his fame to bolster her own career, et cetera, et cetera, right?
00:13:04.020 Gets, you know, gets involved with him, gets married to him.
00:13:06.540 And I've had, by the way, since I've started tweeting about this trial, I have had so many people from the Hollywood kind of sphere, the movie industry reaching out to me about Amber Heard.
00:13:17.460 And they're all saying, it's actually kind of sad because they're all saying, look, we always knew this about her.
00:13:22.340 We always knew this about her.
00:13:23.920 Everybody knew this about her.
00:13:25.220 But for some reason, Johnny just couldn't see it.
00:13:27.720 Johnny just couldn't see it.
00:13:29.320 Even Johnny testified at one point that his kids were telling him, you know, get away from her.
00:13:34.600 This is not good for you.
00:13:35.860 So what's going on in the trial, right?
00:13:39.120 Let me back up a little bit.
00:13:40.740 Why is this trial even happening?
00:13:41.980 Why is it happening, by the way, just outside of Washington, D.C.?
00:13:45.340 It's actually only about 30 minutes from where we filmed the show here.
00:13:48.220 I was thinking about, should we go?
00:13:49.240 Should we do something?
00:13:50.080 I don't know.
00:13:51.140 What would we get out of that?
00:13:52.600 You know, we'll see.
00:13:53.440 Still haven't decided yet.
00:13:54.420 But Johnny Depp is suing Amber Heard specifically in this case because of an op-ed that she wrote where the Washington Post, the same place where Taylor Lorenz writes, whatever, what she calls journalism today.
00:14:10.580 Amber Heard is the Taylor Lorenz of Hollywood.
00:14:14.840 Here's what's going on.
00:14:15.880 That op-ed was written by the Washington Post, and the Washington Post's computer servers happened to reside in northern Virginia.
00:14:25.320 So Johnny Depp's lawyers, because they're well-paid lawyers, they filed suit against her in the state of Virginia.
00:14:33.140 State of Virginia, which has actually very strong defamation laws, whereas federally and in many states in the U.S., we do not have very strong defamation laws.
00:14:42.800 State of Virginia does.
00:14:43.960 California, not so much.
00:14:45.040 So Amber Heard lawyers were trying to get this moved over to California.
00:14:48.760 Johnny Depp's lawyers said, no, no, no, right here.
00:14:51.020 So this is all about this Washington Post op-ed where she claimed that she was a victim of sexual violence, right?
00:14:59.200 That was the main thing she was talking about in this.
00:15:01.180 Now, she doesn't actually mention Johnny Depp in the article, and they bring this up during the trial.
00:15:07.300 They brought this up at some point, and they said, why, you know, she didn't mention you by name, then, you know, how can you even bring this suit?
00:15:13.300 Well, it turns out that under Virginia law, you can sue someone for what's called defamation by implication.
00:15:21.960 And huge shout out.
00:15:24.240 Go watch Recchiata Media.
00:15:26.220 They are doing fantastic analysis on this.
00:15:29.480 Totally got sucked into it watching it yesterday.
00:15:32.360 But that's basically the way the case lays out.
00:15:35.440 Johnny Depp's never been able to tell his side of it.
00:15:37.260 Obviously, he lost his entire career, gets kicked out of the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise, gets kicked out of the Harry Potter prequels.
00:15:44.640 He was playing the main villain there.
00:15:46.460 So lost so much reputation.
00:15:48.740 You know, he's basically PNG, persona non grata.
00:15:51.340 But here's what it's all about, folks.
00:15:54.840 What I hear in those videos is gaslighting.
00:15:57.820 I didn't hit you.
00:15:59.440 You hit me.
00:16:00.740 You started it.
00:16:01.720 I didn't start it.
00:16:02.580 When Johnny Depp's saying again and again, I just wanted to leave.
00:16:06.280 I could feel it getting, you know, heated.
00:16:08.280 I didn't want to continue.
00:16:10.100 And she keeps chasing him.
00:16:11.580 At one point, he even testified that she put nail polish on a handkerchief and then came to him and said that he broke her nose,
00:16:23.900 making him think that he had hit her when he hadn't actually hit her.
00:16:26.780 There's another part of it where they say she threw a vodka bottle at him and it chopped off the top half of his finger.
00:16:36.800 And I'm not even going to get into what supposedly happened to their bedsheets.
00:16:42.240 But I just want to say to anybody out there who's in a relationship like this.
00:16:48.000 Male, female, this stuff cuts both ways.
00:16:50.760 You cannot fix them.
00:16:53.220 They have a problem that you don't have the tools to fix.
00:16:56.780 You do not need to be the white knight.
00:16:59.100 You are not going to save them.
00:17:01.120 What you need to do is walk away.
00:17:03.280 And it doesn't mean you're giving up.
00:17:04.900 It means you're understanding the situation and seeing it for what it is.
00:17:08.300 Do not lose the best years of your life in a toxic relationship like that.
00:17:15.620 You felt shock.
00:17:17.360 You felt anger.
00:17:19.180 You felt sadness.
00:17:21.100 Do you feel guilt?
00:17:22.860 No, no.
00:17:23.780 I feel that there is I feel that that that someone is responsible for what happened.
00:17:32.060 And I can't say who that is, but I know it's not me.
00:17:34.160 Well, Alec Baldwin, speaking of crazy actors and actresses, is now claiming that he's been exonerated in the shooting death of Helena Hutchins, the woman that he shot and killed in New Mexico last year, where he's still yet to face any charges whatsoever for this.
00:17:53.520 Look, and I'll just say it with this when it comes to Alec Baldwin, it comes to this case.
00:17:58.560 Right.
00:17:59.000 You got to put that before a jury.
00:18:00.960 This is the kind of thing where we know how this this works.
00:18:05.320 Right.
00:18:05.500 We talk about prosecutors.
00:18:06.560 We talk about Binger, the prosecutor up in Kenosha for Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:18:10.840 By the way, I'm going to be speaking in Kenosha this Saturday.
00:18:13.520 So if you guys are there speaking up there at a at like a spring meeting.
00:18:18.620 So come out.
00:18:19.640 Kenosha will be there.
00:18:20.560 But but these prosecutors have prosecutorial discretion.
00:18:24.540 They can decide whether or not to bring charges.
00:18:26.740 They should bring charges on Alec Baldwin.
00:18:29.680 All of these questions are too big to be left out of the hands of a jury.
00:18:34.540 Put it to trial.
00:18:35.680 Let there be a jury.
00:18:36.680 It looks like manslaughter.
00:18:38.340 Charge him with that.
00:18:39.140 Charge him with criminal manslaughter.
00:18:41.660 See what happens.
00:18:42.760 Roll the dice because there is no actor exemption for manslaughter.
00:18:48.340 But listen to this.
00:18:49.320 Our new report has come out blaming the production team for shoddy safety that led to a star fatally shooting the cinematographer, even though he himself was a producer.
00:18:58.360 New Mexico safety regulators put out a report saying that the producers were responsible for Helena Hutchins.
00:19:04.460 Keep in mind, Alec Baldwin was a producer.
00:19:06.840 But you listen to this.
00:19:07.560 In the report, officials cited a slew of willful and serious violations that led them to their decision and slammed producers for failing to follow safety guidelines.
00:19:17.740 The producers of the Western were ordered to pay the sum by New Mexico safety regulators for safety failures over $100,000 after the death of Helena Hutchins.
00:19:27.500 But, but, but, but, but what's amazing is that they say, well, Alec Baldwin was really only involved with the script and some of the casting.
00:19:37.280 So it's really not his fault.
00:19:40.200 Okay.
00:19:41.360 Cut me a break.
00:19:43.680 That's manslaughter.
00:19:45.900 That's straight up.
00:19:47.640 It doesn't matter who loaded the gun.
00:19:49.140 Let me tell you something.
00:19:50.480 If this guy was like, you know, you know, Alec Jimbo walking down the street, someone hands him a gun.
00:19:59.200 He pointed at someone and pulls the trigger and shoots them.
00:20:01.980 Right.
00:20:03.020 And said, oops, I'm so sorry.
00:20:04.760 He'd already be in jail.
00:20:06.020 He'd already be convicted by the end of this.
00:20:07.880 It's only because of the power of his celebrity and the fact that he was the guy that used to play, uh, former president Trump on SNL, that you're seeing this huge behind the scenes machinery work to protect him because he's one of their guys, because he's one of their guys.
00:20:26.640 That's all they do.
00:20:27.220 They replaced him on SNL.
00:20:28.720 They never really explained why.
00:20:29.800 Just stop showing up one day.
00:20:31.660 Yeah.
00:20:32.520 Because you shot and killed a woman and it's horrific.
00:20:36.420 Like, shoots and kills Ukrainian woman, Helena Hutchins, the producer.
00:20:41.480 Right.
00:20:42.480 And by the way, when I was watching that video, speaking of this, of Malcolm Nance on MSNBC being interviewed by Joy Reid, and he's got that uniform wearing worn incorrectly and he's holding an AK.
00:20:56.420 He's got the safety off of that AK.
00:20:58.700 Right.
00:20:59.180 On an AK, the way the selector switch works is safety all the way up, halfway down is full auto, and then all the way down is semi-auto.
00:21:06.420 Right.
00:21:07.680 So, he's got it halfway.
00:21:09.540 It looks to me from that video that he's got it halfway down.
00:21:12.100 That means it's on full auto.
00:21:14.700 As he's talking to a camera crew.
00:21:17.360 So, great job, Malcolm Nance.
00:21:20.320 Great job, Doofius.
00:21:21.660 You just went up to a camera crew with your gun on full auto.
00:21:28.340 I guess you went to the Alec Baldwin School of Rifle Safety.
00:21:33.260 Look, these people, they think they're better than everybody else.
00:21:38.020 They think the law doesn't apply to them.
00:21:39.660 They think they're above the rules.
00:21:41.060 They think that whatever they do, because their intentions are so pure and that they're so great that they are cut above.
00:21:47.800 Remember, I keep saying it.
00:21:49.140 It's not hypocrisy.
00:21:51.100 It's hierarchy.
00:21:53.100 We don't have the rule of law.
00:21:56.260 We have the two rules of law.
00:21:58.700 We have one set for the aristocrats and one set for the peasantry.
00:22:03.360 Know your place.
00:22:05.440 Know your role.
00:22:06.960 That's what we can learn from the Alec Baldwin situation.
00:22:11.620 And that's it for us here today.
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00:22:25.700 What do we talk about today?
00:22:27.740 The Colorado governor offering Disney asylum
00:22:31.020 as he urges Disney to leave Florida.
00:22:33.540 Next, the Prince of Saudi Arabia says he will not release more oil into U.S. markets
00:22:38.320 amid declining U.S.-Saudi relations.
00:22:40.480 Again, thanks to Biden bumbling.
00:22:42.380 Johnny Depp testifying in his defamation trial against ex-wife Amber Heard.
00:22:46.220 Beware Black Widow traps.
00:22:48.720 Young kings and queens out there.
00:22:49.960 And finally, Alec Baldwin claiming he's been exonerated, but he actually hasn't.
00:22:54.300 Before we go, today's moment of history is actually a birthday.
00:22:56.980 Today is the 96th birthday of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.
00:23:01.920 Happy birthday.
00:23:03.300 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.