Aug 21, 2022 - Dr. James Lindsay： The Truth About Groomers
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Summary
Dr. James Lindsay joins Charlie to discuss the "Okay Groomer" phenomenon, and why he thinks it's a good thing that Charlie started it. Charlie and Dr. Lindsay also discuss the recent ban on Dr. James' access to the internet, and what it means for the "okay groomer" movement.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard to today's Sunday special for Human Events Daily. Now this
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is an interview between myself and Dr. James Lindsay, but it's broken up in two parts. Let
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me explain why. We pre-recorded this down at Turning Point Student Action Summit at SAS in
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Tampa, which is just a few weeks ago. But then something happened after that, because at that
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point, Dr. James Lindsay was on double secret probation. He had been locked out and temporarily
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banned from Twitter. And for the main course of the interview, that's what we're talking about. It
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was over this okay groomer situation. But then he went, and even after we finished the interview,
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he got permanently banned from Twitter. So I said, what are we going to do? Producers came,
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they said, here's what we do. We'll go and bring him back for a little coda, just a couple of minutes
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explaining where we are, explaining why this has happened, where you can go follow him now that he
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has been permanently banned from Twitter. So you got part one, part two, that's what's going on.
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So strap in and enjoy this Human Events Sunday special between myself, Dr. James Lindsay.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard special edition Human Events Daily. I am joined,
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unfortunately, I have to apologize to the audience, tried to get some good guests at
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Turning Point Sass. And the only one that we scrape in the bottom of the barrel, we got Dr.
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James Lindsay is with us. So I'm sorry, I apologize to everybody out there. But if you can sit through
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this, grin and bear it, we'll get through it together. Dr. James Lindsay, you know, I mean,
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I appreciate you coming by, obviously, you know, I mean, I work for free. I know why you invited me.
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Well, it was a contractual obligation. So I understand. But no, so so you got banned from
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Twitter. What yesterday, right? Yesterday, yesterday, because and what did you say on
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Twitter that was so egregious that they had to take you down? Okay, groomer. Okay, groomer. Okay,
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groomer. And what did you say in response to? So a media matters reporter who may or may not belong
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to what they call a protected class. Okay, and I say may or may not, because I'm can't be bothered
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to care. And so I don't actually know, I forgot this person's name, as a matter of fact, Ari or
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something like anyway. What had happened was media matters did a kind of like sting piece on the okay,
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groomer phenomenon. Yes. They included me, gratefully, because I started it. So I should probably be in
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it. As far as I know, I started it. And so they they put me in it. And they said that I'm this terrible
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monster and all of these things. And you are, of course, obviously, right. And I thought it looked
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really good for me, you know, right? My monster credentials were rising. I actually like no,
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what are they saying now? No cap, right? No cap, no cap. I like media matters now. Right. And here's
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why. Because it's like, I get to watch this. And it's like, Oh, like, what? What? It's like a greatest
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hits reel of everything that's going on. And if you just kind of like, you put the editorial on the side
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and you say, Okay, Charlie was talking about what today? All right. You know, James Lindsay said,
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Oh, yeah, calls me a group. Got it. You know, this is the and it's I think it's great.
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Have you seen their groomers greatest hit video? They put it was their pain. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So
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they put out this article response articles came out. And this person that works for media matters
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tweeted the article with some snarky comment or whatever. And I said, Okay, groomer. Right.
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Right. That was it. So, so I'm gonna, you know, go beyond the, you know, the obvious, right? You know,
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is a groomer a sexual identity? Right. Right. Here's, here's, here's what I want to get it to. Because
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something that you understand something that I'm fascinated with, is this idea of linguistic warfare.
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Yeah. Yeah. And when the right or the center, the north, whatever you want to call it, right,
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the non wokes, right, found the, this word groomer, and really started kind of like revving that up.
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The left lost their minds. Yep. These people went completely insane. Yep. It started giving
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traction. Streisand effect kicks in. Everybody starts saying it. Why is it that this word specifically
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has so much power against them? And why are they so terrified of it? The
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simple answer is because it's true. Memes stick when they are true. If it wasn't true,
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then it wouldn't have stuck. And so it sticks, it does damage. Nobody wants to be called a groomer
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because there is the, there are two associations. I mean, we don't have to get into it. It's obvious.
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Right. They want, they know that there's a connotation that it's connected to pedophilia.
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Right. And to sexual predation and all of these things. Right.
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But secondly, cult groomers exact, aren't exactly looked upon in a favorable light either.
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Precisely. And you know, nobody's looking at Jim Jones and thinking like, what a hero,
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except, you know, Angela Davis and the other communists who supported him in the seventies.
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And so they know it has an incredibly negative pejorative connotation and that they, they, they're
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not going to be able to get it off of them because it's true. And this is the thing, right? And so I've
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heard, and you heard, I'm sure you've heard conservatives say this for a generation. The liberals are the
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real racist. The liberals are the real racist. And that just washes right over them. They don't,
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they do not care one blip as, as a governor Sanders would say, when you call them the real
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racist doesn't even bother them at all. You call a conservative a racist, especially an establishment
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type. They are bending over backwards. They're jumping through hoops. You own them suddenly because
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they're terrified of this word. But it seems now with this word groomer, you've almost found something
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that carries the same weight to a leftist that calling someone on the right, a racist does.
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Yeah. There's, there's no coming back from groomerville. Right. And so it's literally
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my ticket. Yeah, it is. It is a one way ticket. Um, there are lots of metaphors that would be easy
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to use, but we know they'd get taken out of context. So you can't say, what was it that the,
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the Vax Adams said about Trump? He said linguistic kill shots, right? So you can't say kill shot,
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but it is to be labeled a groomer does a lot of things. It completely freaks people out. What
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are you doing? It's got, it's obviously manipulative, whether it's sexual predation
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or not, it's obviously manipulative and nobody wants that for their kids. Nobody wants to be put
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through that. So that's really, really bad. Um, and the other thing it does is it wakes up parents.
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Yes. And there is a reservoir of energy that we will say springs forth from natural law in the
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love of a parent for their children. No, you're talking about base level, biological programming,
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hardwired stuff. Yeah. Heavy D was talking about at the moms for liberty. And he was like,
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he was talking about something else. He was talking about people, you know, you tell the truth and you,
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you help people. And then he said, they'll walk barefoot across broken glass for you. There isn't
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a parent alive who wouldn't take their shoes off and walk across the broken glass for their kids
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if they had to a hundred percent, not even a question run into burning buildings, whatever.
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So, you know, it's, it's funny that you mentioned that because I, I think that about my kids sometimes.
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Right. And it's, you know, they always ask that question, you know, if you're, if you're going to
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be secret service or, you know, would you take a shot for the president? Right. Would you take a shot?
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And it's always sort of this, well, you know, hope you're not in that situation, et cetera, et cetera.
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You know, but it comes up and you know, I'd like to, we found out in Uvalde, by the way,
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the answer was no, you know, the police were not willing down there to take a shot for the kids.
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Um, the teachers actually, you know, actual heroism there. Um, but, and, and, and that
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ties into that same thing that we're talking about the teachers, those teachers are willing to,
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when I think about my kids, I don't have to think about it. Yeah. There's no question.
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I don't, I, it's not even a question. It would, it seems silly to me to even consider that if my child
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was in danger, I would do anything. And it, it, you put what, what could potentially happen to me
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totally aside. It does. It does. It doesn't exist that I'm going to take my kid. I'll, I'll,
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I'll take a shot. I'll walk over it. I don't care. I could, I could care less. Take a shot with kid.
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Yeah. A hundred, a hundred times. Right. Many times. That's like primal human stuff. No,
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there's no escaping that. So they know on some level that if they wake up that energy,
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that they are going up against a force of nature. Yes. That is beyond the capacity of
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their rhetorical tricks and warfare to win. They cannot win. You can't play word games against
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a parent. You're just going to make them mad if you're no, but also, and here's, here's the thing,
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though, and the reason it gains traction and we look, you can see the numbers, the epidemic,
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right? We saw a post-millennial just had the story the other day, 181 cases so far this year,
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child sex crimes arrested against teachers, substitute teachers, teachers, aids. And I'm
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talking K-12. I'm not, I'm not talking high school. I'm maybe talking, excuse me, college.
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Right. I'm talking K-12. Yeah. So this is an actual epidemic. There is something going on. And,
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and I've said it on a couple of shows already this week, but I think it's like a sales funnel.
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It's like a sales funnel because you were introducing sec. And when I covered the
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Ghislaine Maxwell trial, right? And I've heard this before, but it came up there and they talked
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about the cycle of grooming and the stages of grooming. That's right. One of the stages of
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grooming, once you've, once you've identified, once you've made direct contact is that you begin
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introducing sexualized content and you normalize sexual content with the child, with your target.
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That's what you do. And so what did they ask Dillinger, right? They asked him, they said,
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why do you rob banks? That's where the money is. Why are there so many pedophiles in the teaching
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profession? That's where the kids are, right? And so it's, it's a sales funnel because you're,
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you're throwing it out there and you're, you're looking, you're looking to see who responds,
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right? They might not even, it's, it's, it's almost a subconscious thing for them, right? Because
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they have this urge, this insane, disgusting, twisted urge, um, to, to desire children in this way.
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Yes. And, and the problem is, is that I think everyone inherently knows that the problem with taking
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children to, you know, to a drag show or any of this stuff is because you were sexualizing children.
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Exactly. And they know that they're doing it. Um, and as a matter of fact, there's a,
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believe it or not, an academic paper in a major curriculum journal called, called curriculum
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inquiry. That's called drag pedagogy. They wrote an academic paper justifying drag queens story hour.
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And in it, they say, we sell it. They said, this is a marketing pitch as empathy for LGBT identities.
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As a matter of fact, the point is to get people to live queerly, to get children to live, they know
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they're sexualizing children. And to your point, what's actually happening then sales funnel,
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what you're actually doing is you're breaking down those barriers and you're making it, they,
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they sell, they say the opposite. They say, well, this will help kids detect when grooming's
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happening. No, no, no, no. You are actually making the conditions to where the children think
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it's normal to talk about those issues in those, in, in a school or whatever, or to see somebody in
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a highly sexualized performance in a school where it's completely inappropriate. So there is that.
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I mean, as you know, you know, we got linguistic warfare, but we also have memetic warfare. We're,
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we're meme lords over here. And, um, from the beginning, from the beginning of okay, groomer,
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I've been putting out, you know, the handshake meme, or you have the two guys with their, you know,
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clasped hands and the arm wrestling kind of position. And it's Marxist pedophiles. Yes. Because
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they work hand in glove. I'm not saying that all Marxist pedophiles. I'm not saying that most
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pedophiles are Marxists, but no, they're, they, there's an agreement here. It, I, I actually had
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a, whether a podcast or a public talk, I don't remember, but I actually refer to it as the warm
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tongue agreement from Lord of the Rings. He's whispering to Thedon, keeping him on the down.
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Right, right, right. What Saruman promised him. He gets the girl, he gets Eowyn. Right.
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If he gets, keeps it all, whatever. But to me, I think, I think that, that, and this has come up
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before it's, it's why do you see this, you know, and, and we've, we've clearly identified a trend. That's why
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the word itself gains traction because people say, you know what, that always sat wrong with me.
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It was in the back of my mind. I thought I wasn't supposed to say anything because, well, I'm a,
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I'm a soccer mom and I'm a good tolerant, you know, I, I don't tell anyone their business, but I sense
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something was wrong, right? You have this innate sense and now you found a way through all the social
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conditioning. It's grooming, right? And you're also triggering the, and you know what is the other
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big thing that's, that's, you know, again, the same population, the soccer moms, women in general
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in America today, what is the number one, uh, you could call it fad, you call it trend, uh, among
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women. It's true crime, right? There is a massive true crime phenomenon going on. We're here at
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Turning Point SAS. They have conventions. They call it, what, um, crime-a-thon or something.
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I forgot what it's called. You know, they have huge conventions with true crime. People come
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together as the biggest podcasters and it is predominantly women. It is predominantly women
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at these things. And they've heard again and again, these cases of grooming. So you're tapping
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into that. The J6 committee, by the way, also uses the same function of a true crime. You know,
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we're unfolding the true crime and the Hutchinson, but they're just taking the true crime,
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uh, you know, methodology and applying it to gen six and trying to act as if it was some,
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you know, you know, elaborate plot. It wasn't. Problem is with grooming. It is.
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It is. And, and I think that what, what the reason for that clasping that you see
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to me, it's to destabilize society, you have to destabilize families. How do you destabilize
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families is through destabilizing, um, normative sexual relations. This is true. I mean, the Marxists
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have explicitly explored this vein of, of, of strategy since the 1920s. So, you know, you have the
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successful revolution in Russia in 1917. Right. Lenin takes over. The Bolsheviks are doing great.
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Western Marxism starts to come into being because they can't figure out a lot of things. Why did,
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uh, the workers cobble to their nations rather than to the workers overall when World War I broke
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out? Well, they had, Marx didn't have an answer to that. They had to figure it out. And so another
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thing was why did Russia, which was a peasant society, go communist or socialist, but the advanced
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capitalist societies, Marx said, why did they had to figure it out? And so this new thought in Marxism
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comes up. And one of the things they experimented with, George Lukács, Hungarian Marxist was the guy
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who really led to charge on this. He ended up being deputy commissar of education in Bela Kun's, uh,
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Soviet Hungarian regime for four or five months while it lasted. And he realized that if you sexualize
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the children, you achieve a number of things, explicitly sexualize the children to achieve a number of
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things. One of the things you achieve is to destabilize the child. His categorization of the world
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isn't as clear. He's, he's moldable, right? You can make an activist of him. You can turn him or if
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you can't figure out if he's a boy or a girl, maybe Lukács wasn't thinking in those explicit terms of
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the 21st century. But if you can't, if you have a kid who can't figure out if he's a boy or a girl,
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doesn't know for sure what gay and straight mean is sexuality changes with wind. You can't make order
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of the world. You can get them to believe in whatever you want about climate change, one way or the
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other, whatever you want about politics, whatever you want about abortion, whatever you want about
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whatever issue, immigration, anything, super moldable. So you destabilize the children.
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Secondly, you want those children to go home to say these things in front of their parents,
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their parents to be aghast and then to correct the child and then the child to say back, things are
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different now. Yes. We live in a different world. You're out of date. And the third thing is you want
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them to do exactly which, which, by the way, which drives a wedge, a further wedge. And there's always,
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there's always a natural wedge. You know, my kids, my kids are four in one and I'm, I'm just waiting.
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You know, I say, they say, you know, I don't buy whenever they come to me now and they say,
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Oh, dad, I want to spend time. I want to do this and say, or, you know, say when Tanya comes over
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and says, spend time, I say, spend time now because give it 10 years or so. And they don't
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want to talk to us. So there already exists that natural way. They lock themselves in the room.
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And what they're doing is, Oh, he already does that every once in a while, but I have a key.
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Right. And so, um, he's for, he's not allowed to do that. Um, but they're exacerbating that wedge
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beyond the, you know, the normal, you know, teenage rebelliousness, whatever it is to a,
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a rift, an actual rift in the family unit. And that's exactly what they're looking for.
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They want to rip those kids apart and put them in a completely different cultural milieu.
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So they're not looking up any longer to their parents. They're looking up to authority figures
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in the institutions or from the state. And then that's huge in tearing apart a society
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and installing a new generation that accepts a new society. And the third thing is the deepest roots,
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whether you want to frame it, cause it's both irrelevant. It's not trying to put primacy of
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one or the other, but you want them to reject the prevailing religion and culture. Yes. And
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religion in particular, because when the parents like, listen, you know, Genesis says man and female,
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he made them or whatever. They're like Bible was written by patriarchal homophobic jerks. Exactly.
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The Bible is out. That's not me. You want them to reject those deeper roots and especially those
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other values. And so the communists for a hundred years have realized that there is a pathway to
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success that begins and ends with sexualizing the children and then foisting the change in a
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generation while those screwed up kids grow up. So I say that the millennials right now are the first
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intentionally broken generation and the disease. So I'm like, so I'm like, I guess you could say
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elder millennial, I say centennial sometimes, you know, and it, it, sorry about your generation, man.
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It's so bad. It's, and when I look out. If it makes you feel better though,
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because you're getting the Atlas shrugged. Yeah. Well, I keep saying that we should write the book
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when Gen X. Gen X shrugged. Stop shrugging. Yeah. No, we're always shrugging.
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Well, you're starting to see a little bit. So, so Charlie and I have talked about,
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Charlie Kirk and I have talked to us a little bit because you look at like your, your Glenn Greenwald's,
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your Joe Rogan's, your Elon Musk's, you know, this is Gen X because starting to kind of realize that,
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Hey, maybe because you know what it was? And it's, it's the Gen X response to millennials.
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That's actually what it is. Yeah. It's saying, Hey, wait a minute. I thought
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that these things were settled. What, what are you guys doing? What are you doing?
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Stop doing those things. Yeah. And why are you like this?
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That's right. Well, because the millennial generation
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has been broken apart and twisted and trauma. And by the way, traumatized too. And I, I do say that
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not as a millennial apologist, but just as an observer and an analyst.
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It's true. They're the first intentionally broken generation, right?
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Right. These, the traumas that have been put, that have been put through it. And look,
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is it the same thing as, as Vietnam? Of course not. Right. But the, the economic and political
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trauma that that generation has gone through the fact that you've been told,
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because we were told, right. I remember this. We were told your whole life, right? You know,
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don't worry about nine 11. That's fine. You go off and fight if you want, but here's the thing,
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go to college. Then when you get out, you just, you just go into more college, take on more debt.
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You'll get your job. You'll be able to pay it back. Everything will be fine. Go buy that house
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on credit, go buy everything on credit. And all you need is a bigger degree. I remember,
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I remember graduating college during, or just before the, um, the global financial crisis and
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people telling me that what we should do, they said, they said, Poso, don't, they were making
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a poster back then, but they would say, here's what you do. We just go to more college. And if we
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just go to get more college, then we'll have more. And, and because of, again, because of social
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conditioning, we're taught this, that if you have a higher degree, you're more marketable.
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That's right. And so what did they do? They took on more debt when there were no jobs,
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because they made the debt free on purpose, on purpose. I'm telling you, intentionally
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broken generation. Russian serfs. They created a generation of Russian serfs, whether they know or not.
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Well, and that's the agenda. So I hear a lot of millennials and I hear a lot of younger than
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millennials saying, you know, it's like, well, I kind of prefer to rent because you don't have to
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like be responsible. You don't have to keep up with it. Like if you own your house, you have to
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keep up. Are you saying you'll own nothing and you'll be happy? Yes. In fact, I am. And that's
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where you even see like, uh, which guy was it? Um, I forgot which guy it is at the world economic
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forum. I had to edit a video that he put out. It's not Klaus Schwab. I don't think he has a great
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German accent. I think this guy actually has a British accent, but he's sitting there talking all
00:19:52.480
stories. He's like, Oh yeah. As a manufacturer, why should we want to, uh, why should we want to
00:19:59.840
like give up the ownership of our product? You don't want to own the product and be responsible
00:20:04.960
for it. You want the benefit of the product. So if I can retain the ownership rights of the product
00:20:08.720
and then sell you the benefit of the product, isn't that better? Yes. And so you will own nothing
00:20:12.880
and you'll be happy because they're only going to sell you the benefits of the product. Well, and so
00:20:16.320
you can take this actually out of theory because, and I I've said this for a while now,
00:20:20.320
they're switching everything over to a subscription model, everything's subscription,
00:20:23.840
everything's subscription model. So your home is going to be a subscription. That's rent.
00:20:27.120
That's right. Right. You are all your apps, all your products. When's the last time you bought a movie?
00:20:32.080
When's the last time you bought? Now, a lot of people still do physical books.
00:20:34.880
I personally don't do physical books. I just, when I was in military deployments, travel,
00:20:39.280
just kind of got out of it, but I still do the audio books. Right. Um, or, or at least have like,
00:20:44.000
I'll have the file myself. I don't usually do it through. I I'll, I'll straight up, um,
00:20:48.560
I'll strip the DRM and make sure I have the file on my own. Right. But all that stuff,
00:20:53.280
they could wipe it. Right. We, so nobody buys movies anymore. That's all streaming. Um,
00:20:58.640
they're doing this with clothes. They are doing this with clothing. So it started with rent the
00:21:03.440
runway. Right. And that's for girls. And I mean, and my wife does it right. Lots of low end do this
00:21:07.760
where they said, well, if I have an event, I only want to wear a dress once or twice. You know,
00:21:10.800
I rent it. I go to the event and come back. I'm done. Okay. But now they're starting to do it for
00:21:15.760
everyday clothes. So, and then they're even starting to do it with clothes washing. They're
00:21:21.120
taking the clothes washing. And so what do you have to do then? You have to live in a city and
00:21:24.640
you have to live in an automated city. Yeah. And then more and more of these things are taking
00:21:29.040
care of you. They're taking away ownership. And so I don't know how good your Mandarin is,
00:21:33.600
but the, the word, do you know what the word communism is in Mandarin? No. So it's, uh,
00:21:38.160
uh, gong chan ju yi, gong chan, right? This word, uh, gong chan chanping. It literally translates.
00:21:45.600
If you just take the direct words, gong chan ju yi, I'll send this to you. Um,
00:21:51.440
public property policy. That's, that's the direct translation. And I say,
00:21:56.720
I love how blunt the Chinese words are. It's just so blunt.
00:21:58.880
Like we call them struggle sessions because they call them struggle.
00:22:03.680
They call them struggle. Precisely. Right. So it's the public property policy. Right. And that is
00:22:09.680
if you break down communism to its, its, its root, I mean, that's essentially what it is.
00:22:13.840
You do not own anything. Yeah. Well, that's the idea. That's what Marx actually said in, uh,
00:22:19.040
economic philosophic manuscripts. He said that the true communism is when there's a full transcendence
00:22:24.160
of private property and thus a full transcendence of the estrangement of the human condition
00:22:28.720
from himself that there, you will own nothing and you will be happy is straight up Karl Marx
00:22:34.400
fulfilled in his vision, except for Karl. It only worked when everybody spontaneously believed it.
00:22:39.920
And I hear this and it, and it, and it's, and this is kind of where you get the, you know, you,
00:22:45.280
you have to put Marx and then Huxley and Orwell together to kind of get what the millennials are
00:22:51.280
because it, it is this generation where, and I hear it so often, man, I hear it so often. Oh, well,
00:23:01.040
it is, it's cheaper now to buy a home than to rent. Yep. But, but, but you have to make that first
00:23:09.520
payment and none of them can make it. They're not that well. So if your wealth formation is off,
00:23:15.040
that means family formation is delayed. That means children are delayed. Birth rates way down,
00:23:19.440
of course. Um, but don't worry. They're taking care of that at the border. Um,
00:23:24.880
you cannot have a functioning generation if you continue those trends. This is why they don't own
00:23:30.960
anything. This is what their service, but then they throw on top of you, Hey, we've got the latest
00:23:35.920
from Marvel, the latest streaming on Netflix. What's up next? You know, the bread and circuses.
00:23:40.960
And this is what Huxley understood that if you give people this instant gratification culture
00:23:45.280
that you can order from a piece of glass in your hand, you can order everything from your next meal
00:23:51.760
to your next sexual partner. Yeah. Right. Completely atomized, you know, what am I in the
00:23:56.400
mood for? You know, exactly that you, you are completely hollowed out inside, but they can still
00:24:02.960
at least keep you on that dopamine cycle where, you know, you're going the ups and downs, ups and
00:24:07.520
downs, and then you're tracking all the way through that until essentially you expire, but they don't
00:24:11.680
care because they'll just replace you. Yeah, exactly. So, I mean, that's the, that is what
00:24:14.960
Huxley understood. And so you've got the dopamine pump in your hand. Yeah. We know that that's what
00:24:19.360
they do. We know that they're built to do that, to cause your brain to pump dopamine. So you have
00:24:25.040
the dopamine pump in your hand and what are the rest of them on? SSRIs. So, you know, they're drowning
00:24:30.320
in psychoactive drugs that we've just recently learned don't do what they said that they did all along.
00:24:39.280
The study just came out. We had, we just had, I just had Dr. Malone on talking about this.
00:24:43.920
Yeah. It's like, oh no. And he pointed out that, you know, some of us have been saying this all
00:24:47.120
along, that the data is not there, but lazy journalists and lazy academics never went and
00:24:53.920
actually cracked this stuff open because they went with the, you know, the sexy headline. They went with
00:24:59.840
what popped and they went with, of course, because now, hey, company's making money again. We're getting
00:25:05.120
advertisers. People want to fund this. There's billions, possibly trillions of dollars. If you
00:25:10.000
look at that industry as a whole and we have these, and I wonder because that study just dropped and
00:25:14.960
we're talking about course, by the way, about the study that just came out. It was a study of studies,
00:25:18.560
an umbrella study, university college of London. That's that essentially stated there is no direct
00:25:23.840
link between low serotonin levels and depression. That's right. Right. Which is the underlying
00:25:28.640
science of the chemical imbalance theory that sold everyone on an entire 20 year generation
00:25:34.960
on antidepressants. Right. That's what the, one of the S's in SSRI. Right, right. Serotonin. Right,
00:25:40.080
right. Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor. Reuptake inhibitor. Right. And so
00:25:47.920
it's so ridiculous. It's so, so everybody's drugged up. Everybody's hopped up on pharmaceutical
00:25:52.480
cocktails. They're also getting, hitting, getting the dopamine rush is hitting. I almost wonder if this is the
00:25:58.400
trend. Cause you saw this by the way, with Frank Luntz's favorite drug, uh, Oxycontin, which of course
00:26:03.280
the late great Rush Limbaugh, um, even he was someone who struggled with, right? Because this
00:26:07.520
is a powerful, powerful, addictive drug that, you know, they wrote that out. They made their money.
00:26:13.760
They decimated middle America off of it, sucked the money out of them, bled these people dry,
00:26:19.280
left them to rot. Then suddenly we get this, this sort of media, almost like a mea culpa moment. And
00:26:26.320
they turn and, and they turn and commodify that into, you know, Hulu mini series is and, you know,
00:26:32.080
maybe one show trial of they pick one family, but the family, you know, it doesn't even have to see
00:26:36.240
any time the behind bars. And then you go on to the next thing. So I'm wondering, because we're seeing
00:26:41.600
this study come out, we're starting to see some glimpses of this. Do you think that is this, is this
00:26:46.880
just one that kind of snuck through, or are we seeing the beginning of a trend possibly on SSRIs?
00:26:51.840
You know, that's a bit above my pay grade to make that, that judgment, uh, in general,
00:27:01.840
You have to get, well, basically it's, you have to get these things to a critical mass.
00:27:04.800
Correct. I was about to say is in general, the glass is breaking in some sense. Like in general,
00:27:09.840
there is a very big turn for the past couple of years or so now, two, I think is the right number
00:27:16.080
of years. There's been a whole lot of questions being asked. Like the data don't seem to match
00:27:20.240
everything people seem to be saying, especially maybe in the medical field, but, and the outcomes
00:27:23.920
don't match. Yeah. And a lot of things are not matching. And so now 20 years of SSRIs,
00:27:30.400
are we happier? Are we worn well adjusted? Is the country doing better? I mean, you're right.
00:27:35.920
No, absolutely not. And so people are, when, when the virus, the pandemic first came around
00:27:43.440
and there are all these things being installed. I remember talking to my further, you know,
00:27:46.960
as they say, further right wing friends, more based people, actually clearer eyed people in
00:27:51.920
many cases who kept saying something to me that I barely understood at the beginning,
00:27:56.160
which is it's all going to come out. They can't hide it forever. The bodies are going to start
00:28:01.040
appearing or something, you know, depending on what the thing was. And that's true of all of
00:28:07.760
when you, there's an old saying reality is the thing you run into when your beliefs are false.
00:28:12.800
Yes. And so if you pump out lies and you pump out lies and you pump out lies for fashionable reasons,
00:28:17.680
for lazy reasons or negligence, or because of malicious intent, doesn't matter. If your beliefs
00:28:23.120
are out of alignment with reality, eventually the bodies start piling up one way or another.
00:28:28.400
And when that happens, people will start to notice. And then that forces people to start looking
00:28:33.040
under the tarp or under behind the curtain or whatever else. And I think we are at that moment
00:28:37.680
where there's a lot of people like, wait a minute, do we even know the history of the 20th
00:28:42.960
century? Like what just happened for the last hundred years? Were we told lies? Like, what is
00:28:47.200
this? One of the, one of the great, uh, if you talk to again, the, the further right based,
00:28:51.760
uh, based underground, one of the things I keep hearing is we need to repeal the 20th century.
00:28:56.480
Just, just, just reveal the whole thing. Just, just go back. Yeah. It's just go back.
00:29:01.440
There are a lot of shady things that have happened that we don't have straight answers about
00:29:05.520
what actually occurred. And many of those things are pharmaceutical. We're dealing with that end,
00:29:10.720
where we've been talking about, but you know, a lot of those things are political too. Right.
00:29:14.480
And so there are, I think that as for this question about, you know, SSRI studies, I don't know,
00:29:20.800
but I think that there is about to be a lot more, you know, let's go re-ask some questions that we
00:29:26.240
thought, um, that we were told we don't need to ask. Look, look, all I'm saying is when I was a
00:29:33.760
little kid, Hulk Hogan told me the great physician, Hulk Hogan told me, eat your vitamins, say your
00:29:40.720
prayers and train. He said, vitamins A, B, C, and D, and you will be fine. And then you look at all this
00:29:48.880
stuff. And I say, we're in Florida right now. And I was, I was joking about it. I said, I said,
00:29:53.360
why did Florida do so well? Well, they've got all the vitamin D you would ever need here. And because
00:29:58.480
of the citrus, you've got all the vitamin C that you would ever need here. And you wonder if they've
00:30:03.040
also got the most seniors and yet they did some of the best with COVID than of any other population
00:30:09.680
that has so many seniors. And I said, I really wonder, I wrote it now compare that with like
00:30:15.920
Northern Italy, which is not exactly known for its sunshine content and, and you, nor is it known for
00:30:21.680
its citrus, right? Because the, you know, the temperatures aren't right. Cause you're, you're
00:30:24.640
getting up into the Alps in that point. Um, and so it really makes you wonder, does any of this stuff
00:30:30.640
track a little more than some of the things that we've been told to look at?
00:30:34.480
I mean, I think that these are questions that we need to be looking into. And so you have your,
00:30:38.480
your, you know, your great physician, Hulk Hogan, and I had my great philosopher, Randy Macho,
00:30:43.280
man, savage. Absolutely. And he, he said that the cream rises to the top. That's right.
00:30:46.880
And we see the cream of Florida is rising to the top of the pile of how things worked out.
00:30:51.200
So something have, has gone correctly. And I mean, I mean, I am being silly, but I'm not being silly.
00:30:57.360
When you look at it on paper, we knew early on in COVID that it affects certain,
00:31:02.160
for political correct reasons, we couldn't say this, that it affected people who were, who were elderly.
00:31:06.400
You could kind of say that more, but you certainly weren't able to say that it affected people who
00:31:10.800
were overweight. And that was one of the largest comorbidities or certainly largest populations
00:31:15.280
of comorbidities in, in the general population, certainly in America. And we weren't allowed to
00:31:20.800
say that. And that's why we had these one size fit all government policies come down, but take that back
00:31:26.400
because Florida has your highest percentage of seniors. It would stand to reason that Florida
00:31:32.000
would, would be just one of these areas that we would see, um, a huge hit from COVID. Right. And they
00:31:38.480
told us what the left was calling him Death Santas, you know, go to DeSantis, Death Santas again and
00:31:42.720
again. And yet, and, and to be sure, right. You know, everybody took their lumps with COVID,
00:31:47.600
but we never saw this massive hit in Florida that they kept predicting.
00:31:52.480
Right. Well, I mean, if you listen to Ron DeSantis, he talks about it a lot. They,
00:31:56.000
they actually looked at the data and they said, what actually makes sense. They actually didn't just,
00:32:01.040
he just said it last week at a talk I was at, he said, um, I didn't, what did he say?
00:32:05.200
Outsource or subcontract. He said, I didn't subcontract. I can't subcontract my leadership.
00:32:09.600
Oh, that's great. To some other, uh, you know, entity like the public health or whatever. So he's
00:32:13.600
like, bring me the data. Let me see the data. Let's talk it over. Explain to me what it means.
00:32:16.320
Let's make a decision for leadership. And he made a lot of decisions that were flew in the face of
00:32:20.320
what everybody else in the country was doing. And a lot of people in the world were doing,
00:32:23.040
uh, Sweden did as well. And what you saw is that something very different happened.
00:32:29.200
Um, these things that you would say, you know, the elderly population, which by the way,
00:32:34.640
speaking of Sweden, did you know, and I was reading this at one point that the pop,
00:32:38.560
because Sweden, of course, again, another area that's really not known for its sunlight,
00:32:42.640
not so good with the, um, because they know that the country and the people who live there
00:32:48.800
just generally take more vitamin D supplements than most other countries, particularly in Sweden,
00:32:54.720
which turns out to be fairly inexpensive and accessible by the way. Uh, yeah. So,
00:32:59.600
I mean, Ron DeSantis realized like get people outside, let them be outside, let them go do
00:33:04.000
things. Don't mask up kids, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And the, it was a completely different
00:33:08.800
outcome. And rather than calling him death Santa's and ignoring him, maybe we should start asking
00:33:13.120
questions like what, what happened that was right here? And how do we start figuring out more things
00:33:18.080
that are right in more places? I actually think calling him death Santa's makes him sound cool.
00:33:22.960
It is pretty cool. I think, I think it's kind of cool. I mean, you got Macho Man, Hulk Hogan,
00:33:27.600
Death Santa's right. You know what I mean? It totally fits, but that's, that's, that's pretty
00:33:32.720
metal. It is very metal. Exactly. He's actually speaking here a couple of minutes. We should,
00:33:36.560
we should, I was joking with the, uh, with the team. I said, can you make it say death Santa's
00:33:41.760
when he comes out? And they said, well, I know. And, and they said, well, well, we think that,
00:33:45.680
you know, he might take that as an insult or something. I said, well, just play metal.
00:33:48.800
Yeah. Just play metal as he comes out and show like some, and the other, that's it.
00:33:52.400
Speaking of metal, Marjorie Taylor Greene just is right over there. We say hi.
00:33:55.280
Oh, Marjorie. Well, no, she's, well, that's cause she's on after you.
00:33:57.680
Well, I'm just going to sit here until she comes over and comes over. All right. Well,
00:34:01.280
let me follow me on Twitter. I'm not going to take up too much of her time making her wait,
00:34:06.800
but, um, you know, what are you working on? Where can people follow you? Yeah.
00:34:10.160
All that good stuff. So for, for now you can follow me at conceptual James on social media.
00:34:14.960
The company is new discourses. That's new discourses.com channel is new discourses on
00:34:19.200
YouTube. Um, I am working on, I got a workshop on the marksification of education, how they stole
00:34:24.880
education from us, turned it Marxist coming up in a week in Virginia. Um, but I'm going to put out
00:34:30.400
a book by the same title on the back of that, probably by the end of August. Amazing book on
00:34:35.200
education, the theft of education from the American people, how they turned it into a Marxist, uh,
00:34:39.680
thought reform program. So cool. All right. And to the audience is just, again, another apology.
00:34:43.840
I'm, I'm sorry. You know, we have contractual obligations here. You know, some of us, you know,
00:34:48.240
like, I mean, look, like I signed up, Charlie asked me to do certain things, you know? And so
00:34:51.920
I apologize of course, for this, uh, uh, very low performing episode of human events daily.
00:35:01.920
Okay. So we just ended the first portion of the interview, which was, but we're now a couple
00:35:09.280
weeks later. And there's been some interesting developments since the first part of the interview,
00:35:14.960
which we did at, at turning point SAS. And so I realized that, Hey, we gotta, we gotta add a coda
00:35:20.000
or something onto this. And producer Angelo said, you know, you gotta get them back on to explain this
00:35:24.960
because Dr. James Lindsay went and got himself completely banned from Twitter. Now, not just
00:35:30.240
double secret probation straight to Siberia, straight to the Gulag. And unfortunately the kids
00:35:34.960
from stranger things are not coming to save him. So Dr. James Lindsay, we've got you back for this
00:35:40.640
coda. What the heck happened? Well, I, I did the one intolerable thing. I'd beat a leftist at a word
00:35:47.040
game. Oh no. Yeah. That's their thing, right? They don't let you do that. Cause I was doing the
00:35:53.760
whole okay groomer thing and they didn't like that. And they put me in timeout, um, you know,
00:35:58.800
double secret probation and it wore off and I came back and I had to go poke the bear. And I,
00:36:04.240
I went to the same people and said, okay, child sexualization specialist,
00:36:08.000
which I thought was really clever. Well, wait, because they wait, but hold on. But I see what
00:36:13.040
you're doing there because they told you that you couldn't say groomer anymore. So you said,
00:36:16.480
all right, I'm not going to say groomer, but you have to say something.
00:36:19.920
Do you have to say something there? They're sexualizing children. You have to say something.
00:36:24.080
So I called the same person, a child sexualization specialist,
00:36:28.000
and they nuked me from orbit. That was the end of that. Um, rip me. Uh, so Siberia is called truth
00:36:35.920
social apparently. And get her don't, don't we love, we love get her too. Yeah. Yeah. Actually
00:36:43.440
kind of all of the other ones, um, everywhere else is still thriving. So yeah, that's what happened. I,
00:36:47.760
I outsmarted them with a word game and that's intolerable. And the same person, uh, it's this
00:36:52.640
Alejandro Carabello or something like this is on this like war path and it's trying to get
00:36:57.840
everybody banned. They got our, our friend that gaze against groomers banned today, apparently
00:37:03.200
perma band. Um, they're going after lots of other people in this. Wait, wait, I saw that. I saw that,
00:37:08.720
but I didn't dig into it. That was actually a permanent ban or was that just double secret
00:37:11.840
probation? Nope. That's, that's it. Gone. Permanent ban. Okay. So explain the, and that, I mean,
00:37:17.200
you don't have to explain it, but right. So this was a group. So the idea is, okay, their logic,
00:37:22.160
and this is what you're the expert on is under unpacking their logic. Their logic is that these
00:37:26.480
are slurs against the LGBT community, but gaze against groomers is part, obviously part of the
00:37:33.840
LGBT community. So of course they had to be banned because again, that beats themselves at their own
00:37:40.640
game. Yeah. It's, it, that's, that's a hundred percent of it is that, uh, they are hiding behind
00:37:48.080
everyday LGBT people as human shields and anything that kind of exposes that there's actually
00:37:53.920
toward behaviors happening, uh, unacceptable behaviors happening here. Uh, it, that has to
00:37:59.440
be, you know, you have to silence people who make that obvious so they can keep their human shields
00:38:04.160
out in front of them, which has ever since, uh, you know, the eighties and nineties has been
00:38:08.400
this broader LGBT community that wanted the civil rights movement that wanted equal rights and, and
00:38:14.160
basically to be considered normal citizens and left alone. Uh, but as opposed to this kind of rampant
00:38:19.840
queer theory based activism that the other team wanted and that other team has taken over completely
00:38:25.600
and gaze against groomers had to go, I had to go thereafter lives a tick tock viciously other people.
00:38:30.880
I know you and I just made the list for the human rights campaign, uh, groomer doomsday,
00:38:36.320
you know, list or whatever they put out, um, along with Marjorie and Lauren. So
00:38:41.040
they're on a war path to try to silence this narrative about groomers because it hit bullseye
00:38:48.880
and they tried everything they could do to get it off of them, to turn it around,
00:38:52.400
to flip it over, to claim the word in a positive sense, everybody groomed. So we groomed correctly.
00:38:57.120
They tried that. Yes, of course, college is about grooming students. That was an article somebody wrote.
00:39:01.760
Um, yes, of course we're grooming kids. That was an article somebody wrote. And when that didn't work
00:39:06.000
out for them that switched to censorship, which is the last step they have before it switches to
00:39:11.520
violence. And what that means is that they're admitting that that's exactly what they're doing.
00:39:15.680
And that is something that they're going to try at the most last desperate effort to cover up. And
00:39:22.640
thanks for admitting it is all I have to say to that. No, I mean, it,
00:39:28.320
I always say, you know, on the show that you understand what point in the movie you're in.
00:39:32.320
And, you know, Charlie Kirk likes to say, do you know what time it is? And same idea that,
00:39:37.280
you know, if you, if you look at the situation that way, then the censorship, the rate on Mar-a-Lago,
00:39:45.440
all of this stuff just fits into place. It's, it's the only explanation that fits the facts rather
00:39:51.040
than, oh, these people just mean well, and they're just trying to protect other. No,
00:39:54.880
it's not about that. It's, and it's never been about that. It's even, even on the grooming one,
00:39:58.400
because I talk about one of the, one of the first specials we did ever on this show was a
00:40:04.480
Jeffrey Epstein special. And we were talking about Ghislaine Maxwell, and we went through
00:40:08.160
and just did kind of every facet of the case back when that was on. And they brought a grooming
00:40:13.600
specialist into the case. And she was a child psychologist and she went through all the stages
00:40:19.760
of grooming and just, just walks through and clearly states that introducing sexualized topics
00:40:25.520
and normalizing sexual discussion, sexual behavior, and then eventually sexual contact
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with the child, sexual, sexual, physical contact. These are all parts of the stages of grooming.
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And I said, wait a minute, you know, I don't think everyone, anyone accused Jeffrey Epstein of
00:40:39.520
necessarily being, uh, you know, he wasn't homosexual as far as we know. Right. You know,
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that was just pedophilia. And again, when we're talking about grooming, this was part of a major case.
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Everyone in the world was talking about it and it was, it was, you know, it was totally above
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board. But then when you apply that exact same rubric that they lay out in the Ghislaine Maxwell
00:41:01.200
case as part of the Epstein operation to anywhere else in the country that, and I'm not talking about,
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by the way, the top of the funnel, they always say, well, it's, it's compliments and it's,
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it's gift giving and targeting and okay. Right. You know, you can give somebody a gift. You can pay
00:41:15.600
someone a compliment. It doesn't mean you're grooming obviously, but it's when you start to go down
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that funnel that yes, it does become grooming and we've laid out the cases specifically.
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Yeah. It's, it's unambiguous in this case. And while there is of course the pedophilic
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aspect, I think what that's, what's happening there is an open door is being left that people
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are able to walk through because you've lost the ability to discern because kids have been brought
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into a situation where talking about sexuality and sexual topics has been normalized around them.
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Um, but what's actually happening is that they're inducing them into the cult of gender ideology,
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or as it's more aptly called queer Marxism, where the, where the idea is, you know, well,
00:41:54.640
if you feel uncomfortable with your body, maybe you're not the sex that you are. Maybe if you think
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you're a girl, you're actually a boy or the way that you feel inside actually matters. This is the
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point. They tell you there's a paper written about drag queen story hour called drag pedagogy and
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curriculum inquiry. It's a major journal, uh, in education. It's not like some fringe thing. And they
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actually say that the point they say, the first of all, that they use it as a marketing scheme to
00:42:15.760
say that it's about LGBT empathy, but they say that so they can get it brought into places.
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But they tell you the real goal is to lead kids to ask the questions, what they call generative
00:42:25.360
themes in education theory about, you know, why are you dressed as a woman? And then the reply might be,
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does it matter if a man dresses like a man or dresses like a woman? Maybe people can dress however they
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want. What do you think? And you're, you're grooming these children into the queer Marxist way of
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viewing the world, which is by definition, oppositional to anything that can be considered
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normal or normative. In other words, you're deliberately grooming them into a cult of
00:42:50.160
destabilization using themes of sex, gender, and sexuality to do it. And there, there, if you look
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at that funnel, it's, uh, or those steps, any of the models of cult grooming.
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So, so we see this and I will occasionally go because I want, so I've got a four-year-old and
00:43:07.440
a one-year-old and for my four-year-old, um, I can already see, man, the, the, the, the YouTube
00:43:13.360
and the screens of the world, they're, they're catching his eye. They're so distracting. They're
00:43:18.000
so interesting. He wants, he wants that, but I'm trying to also inculcate the, the love of reading with
00:43:24.560
him. And so we'll go to bookstores, we'll go to the library regularly. But when you go to those
00:43:29.440
bookstores, that table is always right there, the kids books, and you go and look at it. And
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sometimes it isn't even necessarily LGBT, but it you'll, we saw this one book and Tanya and I were
00:43:40.000
talking about my wife and, and it said, um, it said, it's okay that daddy can't mow the lawn.
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And I remember reading this and saying like, this is amazing. I have to, I have to look at this.
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What is this saying? It's okay that daddy knows how to make cakes and mommy mows the lawn.
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And I'm trying to think about that in my personal life. I don't know any guys that make cakes. And
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I don't think I know any women off the top of my head that, that mow the lawn, right? That's just
00:44:06.240
not something that I've ever encountered. But when you look at it, it's, it's, they're trying to just
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from even, even not necessarily a sexual perspective, but they're changing these, these gender roles.
00:44:18.320
And they want to tell you that it's a, first of all, you know, that's a whole nother special
00:44:21.840
we could do on the crisis of masculinity, but the idea that you're, you're changing gender roles
00:44:28.640
and flipping these things around, but they're even coming from a perspective of things already
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are this way and you should just accept it. That only takes one generation that you only need one
00:44:40.080
generation to believe that. And then, cause then the kids come home and they say, oh no, mom and dad,
00:44:44.560
you're wrong because I, in school, I was told this and that's it. That's all you need.
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Yeah. And that's ultimately what the point of this, or one of the points, there are many points,
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as far as I can discern, uh, for this grooming into this cult ideology. And one of them is in fact
00:44:58.320
that not only do you destabilize the kids, but you bring them into this mentality where they go home
00:45:03.040
and they tell their parents what they're learning in school about the world, about society, about
00:45:07.680
themselves. And the parents don't recognize it. And they try to intervene. Then the reaction from the
00:45:12.160
child, especially when it's sexual is going to be, you don't understand me. Things have changed.
00:45:18.320
It's different now. All right. Well, I don't want to, I don't want to take up too much of your time.
00:45:22.160
Cause I know you've got places to be and things to do, but unfortunately not tweets to write,
00:45:26.000
but we'll get you back and hopefully, uh, hopefully we'll do, and we'll pull an Alex Berenson or maybe
00:45:30.240
when, uh, if, and what looks like Elon Musk is, is going to have to be locked into this contract.
00:45:34.560
So we'll see what happens there over in Delaware. And, uh, if we can get some,
00:45:38.000
some lines into him on this, but that being said, where can people go to follow you, uh,
00:45:42.960
in the interim as now that you have been permanently banned by the Twitter overlords?
00:45:48.240
I mean, my YouTube channel is still active. So that's, that's, uh, YouTube slash new discourses.
00:45:53.920
Um, but I personally am still at conceptual James on truth and on getter, uh, and kind of around the
00:46:00.080
other Siberian, uh, social media platforms. So I'm still around, uh, pay attention to the website,
00:46:06.000
new discourses.com. Uh, all of my podcast content gets, uh, put up there so that it's easy to find
00:46:11.200
and all the kinds of developments that I have going on will be advertised there until, you know,
00:46:15.600
we try to figure out what to do centralizing. I'm not enchanted with social media anymore,
00:46:19.440
so I'm not that worried if Twitter doesn't ever let me back in. Uh, I feel like I've actually been
00:46:24.480
shaken free of something that I don't think, I think it's almost a delusion that we all use it.
00:46:29.040
So you're off the dopamine rollercoaster is what it is. Yeah. I actually feel better. So,
00:46:34.160
you know, um, um, president Trump said that too, actually. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Totally feel
00:46:38.880
better, happier. Um, I don't have more free time because people are just filled in with
00:46:43.040
text messages and phone calls, uh, it turns out. Yeah. But these are good problems. Yeah.
00:46:48.640
Staying busy. So the website, new discourses.com YouTube slash new discourses and, uh, conceptual
00:46:54.000
James on, on, on the Siberian truth, social and getter and so on. All right. Uh, Alexander
00:47:00.400
soldier. I mean, Dr. James Lindsay, thank you so much for joining us today here.