AUG 5, 2022 - THE TRUTH ABOUT SSRIs, SEROTONIN, AND DEPRESSION W⧸ ALEX CLARK
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A very special edition of Spillover and Poplitics sits down again with the host of the popular show "Spillover" and "Pop Litics" Alex Clark. Alex joins the show to talk about drugs and mental health.
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so i got a family reunion coming up this weekend we're getting everyone together all the polls
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together from all the places of the united states we're coming back we're all going to be meeting
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up this weekend we're very excited but i said what kind of meat do we want for this because
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it's going to be a barbecue and it's going to be august and we want to get out there and i said
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guys we got to go with the good ranchers they said good ranch i said yes so we're bringing the
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good ranchers to the poso family reunion 85 of that grass-fed beef that's in stores and online
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it's imported we're not doing that we're not paying a premium for low quality this foreign
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stuff no we want 100 american meat for the poso family reunion and we want it delivered straight
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to where we need it beef chicken seafood whatever we want prime and uppercut choice beef we've also
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got ribeyes t-bones new york strips everything else and of course you know that we are going to be
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i know that uh psychiatry is is a pseudoscience but tom if she said that this particular thing
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helped her feel better whether it was the antidepressant or going to a counselor
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or a psychiatrist isn't that enough you have to understand this
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here we are today where i talk out against drugs
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and psychiatric abuses of electric shocking people
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okay against their will of drugging children with them not knowing
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the effects of these drugs do you know what adderall is do you know ritalin
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the difference is this was not against her will though
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but this wasn't against her question madam asking a question i understand there's abuse
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of all of these things no you see here's the problem you don't know the history of psychiatry
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i do aren't there examples and might not brook shields be an example of someone who benefited
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from one of those drugs all it does is mask the problem okay ladies and gentlemen welcome aboard
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very special edition sitting down again with the host of spillover and poplitics
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alex clark alex thank you so much for joining us again well i'm very honored you said that uh
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our sex in the city episode talking about how girl boss ism is dead actually did very well so
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it did so oh no because she admitted if you remember the creator of sex in the city admitted
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that she regretted not having children yep she admitted this and then she attacked me for
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for bringing that up again because i guess she's got this one woman show out and it became a
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whole thing and that is still one of our highest rated shows well i'm very honored i'm glad the
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human events daily crowd uh likes likes our conversation absolutely no because because what
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i like talking to you about is taking some of these things that come up sort of in the news world
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but then where you come in is the culture you understand you know millennials zoomers very well
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at hollywood etc and so there's so many intersections of this and what i can do with you is actually dig
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into that stuff a little bit more rather than just kind of hit the news what does it mean and then go
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on to the next thing that's usually what people don't realize is that jack and i are always like
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in real life texting behind the scenes like jack was like should i go take tanya to go see this
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crawdad i did straight up say that and i've got feelings about the ending i've got feelings about
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the ending of crawdads by the way no people yeah that's why so no people don't realize that you and
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i were friends like before turning point actually and this isn't like one of those like fake good
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morning you know kind of uh kind of whole boy i had a great time fishing with the boys on sunday
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no yeah i mean we do we know each other for real yeah yeah for like for real real not no cap no cap
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no cap by the way i got in trouble from media matters today um because i was talking about the
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russians and i they have this one guy this guy lavrov and i say and i was saying you have to really pay
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attention when lavrov says something because he's he's very serious he's very truthful he's always
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legitimate and it just kind of popped out of me that i said i said he's no cap i say he's no cap
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and then media matters wrote that i was praising uh the russians when i said that this guy was no cap
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and it's like media matters you're a bunch of mids you do not even understand this new terminology
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not bussin at all not bussin um you know what's interesting is that the left you know everybody
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has always said okay well the left is the one they're the ones that have the stranglehold on culture
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and media matters really is right like the spokes the mouthpiece the spokespeople of the left or
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whatever and they're the ones that have absolutely no grasp on culture no clue what's going on like
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the fact that they're making fun of you and saying like why did jack vasovic say no cap like they have
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no idea what no cap means they have no idea and so it's just kind of ironic for real real on god for
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real real on god period but so the thing that i wanted to get into you with you on this um given that
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lengthy introduction was that we and we played the clip of tom cruise from 15 years ago talking about
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the this idea of the chemical imbalance is it real but we were told for 20 years right or more
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that depression was caught and this this issue of depression and you hear millennials talk about
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this constantly you're a zoomer so you go to tick tock and type the word depression and you will see
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like millions millions it's currency mental illness is absolute currency and they talk about their
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therapies they talk about what they're on or what are you taking what's your stack right what's your
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stack yeah and the news came out this week and i interviewed dr malone about this that serotonin
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levels low serotonin levels do not actually cause depression that they could not find an actual link
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between this this is an umbrella study a study of studies there's no link that's the entire science
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right trust the science that of the chemical imbalance that underlies the ssris the antidepressants
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all of this annex everything else and it was literally just debunked a couple of days ago and i'm sitting
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there thinking this is one of those stories that i think we hear about it and we say that seems big but
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then we move on because we can't move on something blows up and we're you know it goes i said wait
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a hold on a second you know this is like finding out 10 years ago that opioids are addictive and
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actually bad for you because i think we've turned the corner on opioids at this point and i we're
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starting to really get there when it comes to fentanyl which is of course the most deadly opioid there is
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but on ssris it we're still at the point where people talk about these things as if it's as if
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it's uh an advantage to be taking these things tell me something about when when you're going through
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and you're collecting content you're doing your daily you know pull for you know different stories
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that you're covering what do you see out there on this well first of all every i don't know anyone
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my age that is not prescribed some sort of anti-depressant or anti-anxiety medication this
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is a massive story that should be blown up what's interesting is that i predict we're going to see
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a lot of conservative media conservative outlets like your show talking about this you won't see any
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mainstream media or leftist-owned media talking about this because the left is so in bed with big
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pharma now and what is exactly what you're saying is right jack is that uh this is essentially going to
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be a humongous um uh break i guess just what's the word i'm looking for like breaking news story
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about big pharma just like opioids just like purdue was the sackler family was sack sackler family was
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but this is going to be for antidepressants and how basically the whole thing has been a scam
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just to get us you know to buy and pay for these prescriptions so they can make money well and you know
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what else that i have seen and this this one was actually faster because somebody was showing this
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to me because i do not spend time digging around on tiktok but i had a friend of mine zoomer friend
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i do have them this is how i know cap and no cap and what is bussing and what is not bussing and
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they said that if you look up birth control just that word birth control on tiktok that you're starting
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to see a lot of girls talk about the problems and the side effects of birth control and i say wait a
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minute if you go back to 2016 we were all saying that and you called us misogynists hillary
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clinton literally gave a speech attacking us for talking about birth control yet if you go on tiktok
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right now they are actually starting to get wise to it this is not this isn't a bot a partisan issue
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it is completely non-partisan to say hey uh birth control is poison for women and the thing is is that
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we've been prescribing teenage girls this and we're on them for 15 plus years before we decide to get off
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of them and then by then our fertility we're having all these fertility issues all of a sudden people
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are wondering the combined effects between being on birth control for decades before getting off and
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now the vaccine i am very very nervous for the next generations of women of how this is going to
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affect us and then you're here on top of those two things now you have all the ssris so break break
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that down for me again because i all right how am i going to tell the story without doxing the people that
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are in it or getting myself in trouble i had a friend that was at a thing where she was staying
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with a bunch of other women and those women were you know you know kind of all hanging out for the
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weekend kind of deal and it was a girls you know girls weekend sort of thing and she was saying that
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all of the girls there were just talking about their prescriptions and that every single one of them
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was on and as you just said antidepressants or any anxiety meds they were talking about their therapist
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and my friend was saying i've never taken anything like that in my life i've when did this become
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normal because uh it was a problem when gen x was raising millennials gen x had it in their minds that
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they didn't want their kid to feel any type of uncomfortable feeling ever or uncomfortable emotion
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it was i don't want my kid to be at all unhappy i don't want my kid to be at all anxious so we're
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going to put them on all these medications and so for my generation we grew up that you always want
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to just be like one level of emotion all the time if you're feeling at all sad or unhappy that's not
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good it's not good to experience the rot the the you know huge wave of emotions that as human beings
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we are meant to experience and so everybody is drugged this is what's really terrifying and so we were
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told that it's it's not good it was ingrained in us it's not good to feel to feel to feel anything
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because what they do and this is this is what cruz is getting to and look you know cruz has some other
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beliefs that i'm totally totally not down with what are they what's the thing they see a clock is always
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right twice a day or what he said when he said and i i this is the part that drives it home for me
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when he said these drugs are not fixing anything they are masking the problem they're masking that's what
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birth control does for young women too they're not fixing anything they're not and if they are
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changing anything the side effects that you get go look at that black box of side effects and malone
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when i had him on in the interview he said directly we have seen in some people this incites violent
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tendencies what incites violence ssris really that it can be something that in a certain percentage of
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the population that has you know a certain genetic composition they're predisposed to uh to this type
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of behavior that when you get hit with these antidepressants that instead of you know instead
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of it just so most people it it does the blank slate right you see like that blank slate other people
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it switches them on how all these far left like the antifa types that you're always encountering and
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stuff oh we just did this morning well yes did you see this yes so like all those kids that you
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you know they all have a certain look and i i really wonder what their uh medication cocktail
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looks like every day no no i said i said there was this one i think it was a girl right i want to
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misgender right you know but you could see the it's it's the eyes i'm telling you there was something in
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the and it's not the direct center of the eye it's always around the edges always around something
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just bleeding in from around the edge of the eye this this rage this anger and it's complete lunatic
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mental derangement as far as i'm concerned screaming you know we're going to fight back
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we're going to fight back and she's i mean i mean and alex like like okay i don't even know like
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you're not exactly the tallest person um what who says you're not tall no no you oh no i'm 5'4
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yeah no and this girl was like like shorter than you really and and is screaming and i'm like
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like this is not what are you gonna you know right but she couldn't understand right because
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she was living through this mental fantasy world of where she was and she did not look well she really
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did not look well and that was what i'm thinking is just go get some sunshine go get some sunshine
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get some vitamin d go eat some we're in florida go pick an orange go to the beach all the vitamins
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that's why they didn't go with covet by the way they got all the vitamin c and all the vitamin d here
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right not to take anything away from heavy d you know governor de santis but you've got all the sun
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you want you've got all the citrus you want you've got the beach you've got see the salt air and by the
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way we've been saying as humans have been saying for how long that salt air has restorative properties
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we know this we've known this for tens of thousands of years and yet for some reason because we believe all
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of these wonderful you know the commercials where they've got like the and it's always the same one
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it's like a couple and they're like frolicking in the field and and the dog is at playing their feet
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they're like chasing a balloon or something all while the the side effects are being like scrolled
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at the bottom you know may cause violent tendencies right may may may may not allow you to to conceive
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children or before you know may cause infertility yeah you know and all this is going but you see the
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images and and then they go and they go up to the therapist a therapist sitting there saying oh
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here's your script here's your script and then you get to the point because i've known people when i was
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in college and people in the navy that were doing this stuff you get some of these therapists they're
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not even asking to see you on a regular basis you just call them up for a refill they they sign it
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off they send it off to the to the pharmacist this is by the way how some people with during opioid
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were able to abuse this i think it when you look at what opium or the opioid crisis did to people's
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physical um physical bodies imagine what these powerful anti-psychotic medications are doing to
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the minds of to your point and what we're saying millions and millions of young people it's like
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they're all in a soundproof room and they're screaming at the top of their lungs we have a mental health
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crisis we need help for all the mental health issues in this country and yet nobody wants to
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have the conversation about antidepressants about anti-anxiety meds and what this is doing nobody
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wants to have that conversation so they're screaming they're screaming they're screaming and nobody can
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hear them until they're willing to have that conversation and it's like and by the way you know
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we always have to throw in when i talk about this that you know if you're listening to this and you
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are someone who may take these medications that doesn't mean that i'm here to say oh you know you
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have to stop taking it and it doesn't work right we're not just talk to your doctor maybe talk to
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a different doctor find out and and and if you are someone who's been using for a long time you cannot
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stop these things cold turkey you cannot do that no right because you will go through very suicidal
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thoughts and that's that's never good so you got to be really really careful right and some of this and
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so but where what where did we go from i i was i was uh you know joking around with charlie kirk
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earlier this week you know just one one of the hits we were doing where i said when i was a little kid
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hulk hogan used to come up right and say he used to say train pray and eat your vitamins a b c and d
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right and we sort of understood that was healthy living where did the change come in and maybe you've
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identified this where it went from eat your vitamins and you'll be healthy eat your veggies
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you know to i have to go to the therapist because something is wrong with me and i really do need
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better living through chemistry where does that come from well the definition of health now even or
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being healthy has completely changed they so that there there is no such thing anymore really in
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culture as being healthy right because they're glorifying obesity um and they're glorifying having
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these mental health issues and like i said it being your currency so kids the more mental health
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issues that you can say that you have the more medications that you are prescribed you are more
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popular the more uh different lgbt groups you subscribe to are a part of you are more popular so you have to
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be seen so that's a way if you're a straight white person the only way that you can be a member of a
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marginalized group is to say well now i have multiple personalities you know depression you know what this is
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because it's the inverted hierarchy of victimization so if you can be so the greatest victims are the
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one the the ones who are most oppressed the ones who have been victimized the most are then placed at
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the top of the food chain right i mean when i was in high school it was like you know the all-star football
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players and the cheerleaders and you know that was that was high school right um and now all of that's
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flipped around and it's it's gonna you know it's it's funny because i was watching so stranger
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things has like the new season out or whatever and somebody was telling me that they had a younger
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friend who went in to watch stranger things and they said well this show is completely unrealistic
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so why i mean science fiction of course it's unrealistic right but they said no no not the
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sci-fi stuff the fact that it's just a couple of kids riding around on bikes with no supervision
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it wasn't it wasn't unrealistic for the 80s which is when that show takes place but my point is
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the kids today didn't even realize that that used to be a very normal thing yeah until very recently
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i was thinking about that because my mom was always good about that too i was always able to kind of
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say i'm going out for the day hang out with the neighborhood kids and then you know in summer anyway
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and then come back at the end of the day before dinner do you remember do you remember come home when
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the lights come on yeah do you remember that that's what i did come home when the lights come on that's
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what my mom always said come home when the lights come on and then my town got really bad and see
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part of it is like part of it is good that we kind of got to the there's a well it's because
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through the 92 because we we got very hypersensitive to sexual predators right i was gonna say in the
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90s there were so many things that happened to kids and so many of these cases and you've covered a
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lot of this stuff on the spillover you had one recently i think um that directly involved in one of
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these a sleepover case right and um that because these things happened seeped in and they just
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destroyed all that stuff yeah that's what's sad when um i think it really happened when you had
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eaten pats he went missing uh he was he was a kid that was murdered um in the 80s and then after that
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you had adam walsh you know john walsh's kid uh america's most wanted right and so when those kids
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went missing that really put in the public eye okay this danger of stranger danger that wasn't
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really a thing and no one knew the word pedophile either and then that all became mainstream and
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that's when when gen x parents really got really scared and they said my kids are not going to have
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those be in those situations where there's that opportunity but then you have the opposite effect
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where now you're helicoptering too much and they're never allowed to go outside yes right and so that
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that overcompensation actually turns it into a situation where not only do we have to you know
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create these specialized you know areas for the kids but it it becomes an ideology where you're
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drilling down and look i i say this as a guy i've got two kids right they're here they're here at at
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the event at sas and but i'm i'm constantly thinking you know where's the line because i i don't want my
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kids snatched or anything because you know you hear these stories and before you have kids you
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hear these stories and and it's oh that's a tragedy when you have kids it it you you you just tighten up
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inside but there was also there was so much misinformation in the 80s too because what they
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didn't understand what those parents didn't understand about stranger danger is how unlikely it
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is that a complete stranger it's unlikely to be a predator to your kids it's most likely to be someone
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in your inner circle someone at your kid's school some of it doesn't happen as long as it doesn't
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happen but it's very real yes yeah and so i think there was just misinformation too on how you
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educate kids but now we have that information now we're learning more information so you know the
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combination of that plus understanding the the really the probably we're going to find out uh
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over medication with all these ssris it's there's going to be a huge awakening in the coming
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generation i think i think it's it's we're going to see a spiritual awakening right we're seeing that
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already going on because so many people are devoid of meaning they say you know what what do i do i
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want to go back to god i want to go back to christ i want to go back to the bible because things that
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are sinful are bad for you i firmly believe this things that are sinful are actually bad for you
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yeah and so when you read the bible says oh don't do this and someone well you know i'm yeah who are
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you to tell me right what to do but then when you actually go go through and experience those
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things you realize they are actually harmful to you and eventually mentally spiritually physically
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harmful to you and i think now that we've gotten to this point where it's sort of like
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we need to make those decisions and i think i do see some of this in gen z where they want to make
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the decision so i think that's really cool and i think the work that you're doing pop politics
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spillover is really at the forefront of that so i commend you for it thank you so the moral of the
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story today is tom cruise was right at least about one thing at least oh we got one so far we got
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one so far and his movies are are fire i'm just going to say that i you cannot find a bad tom
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police movie you can't literally can't that being said this crawdads movie we we're gonna have a
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discussion about that offline all right i thought it was great all right go check out pop politics