Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - BONUS EPISODE： Roseanne and Poso on Hunter’s Laptop (October 2020)

00:00:00.000 Hi, everyone. It's Roseanne. And I'm very excited. My guest for this hour is Jack Possobeck,

00:00:13.380 who works for my favorite news station, OAN, along with the lovely Chanel Rion. 0.89

00:00:21.240 He's very fashionable. And you guys are doing the real work of journalism.

00:00:25.700 I'm very happy to have you on my show. Well, thank you so much. I appreciate that.

00:00:37.580 I'm happy to have her on the network with us. It's something where it's amazing to think that now

00:00:45.220 I've been there about two years, two and a half years or so. And now we're at a point as a network

00:00:50.740 that's really only been around for just about six years. You know, they're playing us on Air Force

00:00:56.580 One of all places. So, you know, I know. I heard that. Isn't that fantastic? I heard he was a real

00:01:02.740 fan all the way up. You got to start somewhere, right? Yeah. It's a good place to start. I heard

00:01:09.400 he makes everybody watch it too on the airplane, right? Well, that's what he does. Yeah. He says,

00:01:16.640 he'll put it on the airplane. And then sometimes they have different sections of the plane. So you

00:01:22.240 got to watch it wherever you are on the plane. You got to watch OAN. Oh, that's so cool.

00:01:27.200 Kind of like when you're in the airport, you watch CNN. Yeah. Captive audience.

00:01:33.600 But all my friends are watching OAN and going, oh my God, I wish everybody could get this channel and

00:01:41.200 watch it because, you know, what a refreshing and completely different, you know, way of laying out

00:01:49.120 the news for us regular folk. You know, a bit of truth and some real journalistic skill. It's refreshing.

00:01:58.400 It's a throwback to my old days of my childhood when we used to really be able to trust or we thought we

00:02:06.400 could trust the news. Well, that's been one of the big things and one of the big changes in media,

00:02:13.840 right? Is because media has gone in many ways, especially when it comes to news, it's, it's gone

00:02:20.320 from telling you what's going on to telling you that how you should feel about the news, right? So

00:02:26.960 instead of just informing you, you know, you know, remember the five W's, right? Remember the five,

00:02:32.560 you know, it's the five W's who were where and why that was supposed to be journalism. And then,

00:02:37.360 but the problem is along the way, a lot of students that would go to journalism school,

00:02:42.240 if you, and you could, this still is true today. You go out to any student in journalism school,

00:02:45.840 they say, why do you want to get into journalism? Why do you want to get into journalism? And they'll say,

00:02:49.200 well, I want to change the world. Well, I want to change the world. And so here's the problem.

00:02:54.720 That's not journalism. What that is, is activism. If you're trying to change the world,

00:03:01.920 now you're doing activism. If you're trying to inform and, uh, obtain information, inform the

00:03:08.560 public of that information, tell people the truth of what's going on. That's journalism,

00:03:12.960 right? That's journalism. And people can decide how they want to decide about that. You know,

00:03:17.280 if we find information on Donald Trump, we report that if we find information on Joe Biden, Hunter

00:03:22.320 Biden, we report that we don't tell people how to feel about it. Right. Or, you know, if we do have an

00:03:26.560 opinion section, we're telling you, this is our opinion, right? This is an opinion show or this talk show,

00:03:30.960 that type of thing. But for probably we used to have editorials. We used to have editorials

00:03:37.520 wherein someone, uh, you know, wrote about their opinion or, you know, uh, their take on the news.

00:03:45.200 And, uh, now it's like all editorial. The facts are missing too. And they're jumbled up and concealed.

00:03:52.400 So I would understand. Well, that's the problem. I look at it. Somebody could change the world if they

00:03:57.920 would go into journalism with the, uh, express goal of telling the truth. They would change the world.

00:04:06.160 Well, we got it. We got to turn it back. And that's the real epistemological question. Now

00:04:10.480 is that people are arguing about what is truth and what is not truth. Right. Um, and I just mentioned

00:04:18.960 it a second ago, but the story that we've been reporting this week, that's blown wide. And it,

00:04:25.200 it's, and here's, what's amazing. It's the number one story in America, but you're not supposed to

00:04:29.600 talk about it. Right. And that is this whole Hunter Biden scandal, right? You're not, we're not supposed

00:04:36.000 to talk about this story. And yet if you go and look and I'll, can I, if you, I have your permission,

00:04:40.480 I'd like to break a little news here on the show. Could we do that? I would love it. Yes, please.

00:04:44.880 Let's break some news. Let's do it. We're going to break news right now on, on, if you look at the Google

00:04:51.120 trending, right? You, so you can go to Google analytics and look at the trending, the number

00:04:55.600 of searches for Hunter Biden on Google is at the same level. It was for WikiLeaks, this same period

00:05:04.640 in 2016. And it might actually end up going higher than WikiLeaks was in 2016. That's the amount of

00:05:12.720 people that are, that have heard of this story, that are thinking about this story, that are asking

00:05:17.280 questions about this story. And yet so many sources in mainstream media will refuse to report on this.

00:05:24.800 And that's, that's even to me, that's almost even bigger than the actual story itself, right? The

00:05:30.720 actual story is big, but the fact that there are these institutions, right? This whole media apparatus

00:05:37.200 that refuses to even acknowledge it, or when it does acknowledge it, um, it's in, it's, it's in a way to

00:05:43.440 try to cast it in a certain negative light as if we shouldn't be talking about that story. That to me

00:05:48.480 tells you a lot about where we are. It's totally manipulated. And like, uh, a friend of mine,

00:05:54.960 uh, Linda Perry says the news exists to hide the news. You know, it's all, um, you know, they'll,

00:06:02.400 you know, you know, they almost invent little events or, or find out, uh, you know, invent little

00:06:10.320 things so they can fill the new space with it. Thereby obscuring the actual news. That is the

00:06:16.960 real news. That's making the world go around. So the news is job is to hide the news.

00:06:24.480 Cause I tell you what, I'm looking at some of these emails in here and I, I, I believe it or not,

00:06:29.440 you know what I have, what I'll show you. It's right here.

00:06:33.600 This is a copy of the hard drive right here. I got it.

00:06:39.440 Oh my God. How many people do you think have that?

00:06:45.200 Uh, it's, it's starting now to go out to a wider circle of people. So, um, at first it was, uh, they

00:06:51.920 were encountering an issue with, um, with accessing the files on the hard drive, but now they've gotten

00:06:58.480 past that and there's a whole sort of a tech team that's working on it and they're just,

00:07:02.560 they're making more copies now and it's very accessible. So it's, uh, it is going out to

00:07:06.720 journalistic organizations and now obviously you gotta be responsible with this because there are

00:07:12.880 a lot of personal files on here. There's stuff, you know, uh, divorce files, there's stuff in here

00:07:18.880 with like, like family stuff that, you know, it just, it's not, it's not news, right? It's not news,

00:07:24.080 but there is a lot of stuff here. Well, to a lot of people in the media, it would be news. It would be

00:07:30.160 even, uh, uh, a bigger, uh, news than the actual stuff that threatens the security of our country.

00:07:38.720 They would, they would like all that salacious stuff far more than the important key parts of

00:07:45.040 it that threaten our national security. That's the other. And isn't that sad? Isn't that sad,

00:07:50.000 right? But aren't we supposed to have a journalistic class, right? A, a, a media in this

00:07:56.000 country that's informing us, not just, uh, you know, you know, are you a liberal, you conservative,

00:08:01.280 you this or that, whatever, right. To just tell us what's going on in our world. Well, when you dip

00:08:06.880 into these emails, you see very quickly how the sausage is made. This is like in the wizard of Oz and

00:08:13.680 getting that peek behind the curtain, right? You know, we're told that we're supposed to be friends with

00:08:18.160 this country because they're a good country and we're supposed to be enemies with that country

00:08:23.440 because they're a bad country. But then you look and you find, well, that country, you said it was a

00:08:27.760 good country. You're getting paid, right? You're getting paid tens of thousands of dollars a month.

00:08:33.040 And then you turn around and say, oh, this is our friend. This is a good country. And we have to,

00:08:36.720 you know, hate the other country that happens to be their adversary. Meanwhile, I've been going

00:08:42.720 this whole year. I've been going around. I've been going around Roseanne's America.

00:08:47.840 I've been going around Roseanne's America because I've been going to Wisconsin and Michigan and Toledo,

00:08:53.920 Ohio, and I've been going to Milwaukee and I've been, I've been green, but everywhere, right? I've been

00:08:59.680 all over the mid St. Louis. I've been all over the Midwest this year, more than I've ever been in a year.

00:09:06.480 And I go out covering the campaign, but we go out and we talk to real people about this. I'm from

00:09:10.800 Pennsylvania to begin with. We were just in Johnstown actually. And when I look at some of

00:09:18.720 this stuff and I say, I don't see how you guys were getting paid to be on the board of some Ukrainian 1.00

00:09:26.720 gas company. You're also getting money from Russia. You're getting money from China. What does that have

00:09:32.560 to do with the people of our, how does that help anybody, right? How does that help you represent?

00:09:41.280 How does that help you do your job as a representative sent to represent your constituent,

00:09:47.600 your American constituents? What are you doing there? They're selling them down the river. It's

00:09:53.440 like the, it's like top to bottom sedition, selling people's jobs down the river, the people that you're

00:10:02.160 sent there to represent. I'm just talking about Congress, but you're, you're sent there to represent

00:10:07.440 your peeps. So you go there and sell them into slavery, sell their jobs down the river, you know,

00:10:14.640 try to get, you know, do everything you can to get at their social security benefits.

00:10:19.840 Cause that's the big cha-ching and they're working real hard for that. Don't kid yourself. And I'm 0.99

00:10:25.280 especially talking about, you know, the Democrat party, they want your retirement funds and everything

00:10:31.040 else they can bend to get at that money. And they have been working on that for a long time and the press

00:10:36.880 never ever says it, the press never says anything about that, how, uh, people's retirement funds for

00:10:44.720 okay, 401ks and stuff are, are sitting there as a prey and, and the people we elected to go represent

00:10:54.160 us, you know, pass law after law, making it easier for predators to get at it. What kind of representational

00:11:03.360 government is that? That's criminal. It's it's, you've got a system now where the rich and the elites

00:11:11.440 and the money classes are, they're just able to feed, they're able to feed off of these, uh, these 0.94

00:11:18.800 companies that are now going overseas more and more. Right. And, and it's to be fair, right. I'm not trying

00:11:24.880 to get political, but Joe Biden was a big part of that. He was a big part of that in his 47 years. Right. He

00:11:30.480 just was area. It's just a fact. And they, since they are making the money from overseas, then they

00:11:37.440 just look at you as a consumer, right? You're just, your job now in their eyes is to consume,

00:11:43.280 right? You, you're to consume, whether it's, uh, the, the new product, whatever the latest product

00:11:49.520 is, whatever, you know, whatever the latest thing they're pushing is your big screens, everything,

00:11:54.320 right? You're, you're a consumption. And so then they finally, you know, they don't care what your diet

00:11:59.680 is. They don't care if you're addicted to opioids, they don't care about any of these things. They

00:12:05.120 just want to make sure that you keep voting for them. So they, you know, they, they'll bring up

00:12:10.560 some issue that they'll tell you, Oh, this is terrible, horrible thing. And we just, I'm the

00:12:15.680 only one who's going to help you with it. And you have to worry about this. And if you don't vote for

00:12:19.680 me, then this thing is going to come get you. So they, they use those tactics of fear and fear is,

00:12:24.720 is an excellent motivator. It's a fantastic way. I was in the Navy. I mean, believe me, our, our, uh,

00:12:29.440 you know, our, uh, our chiefs and our officers, boy, they knew how to put some fear into you.

00:12:33.600 And it's, they use that to manipulate people to keep themselves in power and yet vote for policies

00:12:42.480 that actually are harmful to them in their day to day lives.

00:12:47.840 I know it's such a scam. It's a, uh, what do you call it? A shell game. It's all just a trick.

00:12:55.120 Somebody said, and the press was supposed to be the thing that keeps us, you know, the press is one of

00:13:01.840 the, uh, pivotal parts of power, the executive branch, the Congress, the Senate, the judicial and

00:13:09.600 the press, and they're all sold out and whored out too. We have no one to protect us. 1.00

00:13:16.240 Here. I'll even give you an example. Great example. Why is it? So Watergate happened,

00:13:20.960 right? And we knew about Watergate, how, because of the Washington post, right? The Washington post

00:13:26.080 exposed Watergate and told the world about what was going on. But today the Washington post was

00:13:33.680 purchased by Jeff Bezos, the richest man in the world. Should we be asking questions about that?

00:13:42.320 What kind of conflict of interest is there when the richest man of the world buys a major media

00:13:48.720 institution and we don't even ask questions about it? How can we trust their, their journalism on

00:13:55.440 Amazon, on whole foods, on everything that Bezos is into when they're owned by literally the richest

00:14:02.720 corporate Titan in the world? Think about that. Yeah. Where were our, where, where was the consumer,

00:14:09.920 you know, whatever department or something, something to tell us what was happening to us?

00:14:17.440 I think they get a big thrill from keeping us in the dark. And because I think they obviously think

00:14:22.400 we're really stupid and I think they laugh all the way to the bank. I think they're like, 1.00

00:14:26.960 ah, ha ha, we pulled another fast one over on the idiots. I really think that's how we think of it. 1.00

00:14:31.600 It's gaslighting. It's complete gaslighting because they'll say, they'll say, then they take

00:14:37.040 it to the next level because when they say, if you listen to us, you're listening to the truth,

00:14:42.720 but don't listen to anybody else because they might be Russian disinformation. They might be

00:14:48.800 fake news. They might be fake news that started on, on, on the media side. Right. And so when

00:14:55.120 people talk to me about probably say, I don't even look at it as left versus right anymore. I look at

00:14:58.800 it as corporate versus independent as, as freedom versus, you know, being owned, right. You got to

00:15:06.640 understand that's what is going on in our world right now. And if you're not paying attention to

00:15:12.240 that and you're still talking about, you know, politics, like it was 20 years ago, 30 years ago,

00:15:16.240 then you're completely missing what's gone on in this country over the past three decades.

00:15:22.720 And it ain't like that anymore, folks. It ain't like that.

00:15:25.600 And they never, they never tell us, there's never any reporting. There's never any reportage

00:15:32.880 that tells us how, how these things unfolding in our country have anything to do on a global scale with

00:15:39.840 other countries or how the things we choose or do affect other people and vice versa. They never give us

00:15:46.240 a holistic view of how everything fits because it does, but they never allow us that. Instead,

00:15:52.640 they just allow us to think that everything in the world in our purview is about a one party's quest

00:16:00.080 for power and another party fighting them. And that isn't at all what the world is about. It's not what

00:16:06.720 our country's going through either. We're just being manipulated from top to bottom and lied to.

00:16:13.120 It makes me so sick. 0.97

00:16:14.720 No, it's disgusting. And, and if you go, and if you go against these people, 0.83

00:16:21.120 if you get on the wrong side of them, if they decide that you're a thorn to them, if you're an

00:16:26.080 obstacle, if you're a challenge, the first, the first thing they do is they, they threaten you.

00:16:32.240 And then the next thing they do is they will weaponize their institutional power against you

00:16:39.520 to destroy your reputation with false realities. They will launch false reality attacks,

00:16:45.760 right? They will distort and lie and smear. And they literally, they'd launch false realities

00:16:51.520 at you. I've lived through it for the last, um, almost four years. So you don't have to tell me.

00:17:01.360 I know you, you know, more than anyone in the country, you know, more than anyone, maybe you

00:17:05.840 and Donald Trump, maybe and Flynn, you know, I, outside of the government, I'm sure I'm the,

00:17:14.320 the most well-versed in, in their tricks and it's to cover the truth. They don't want any of us to know

00:17:21.360 the truth because the truth is really horrible. As you know, did you watch that? Uh, did you watch

00:17:28.080 that? What's it called? Thumbnail, that thing you've got? I, so I don't know what that stuff is.

00:17:33.760 The thing you got the stick, that's got the Biden thing on it that you held up.

00:17:39.920 Oh, that, yeah. I mean, some of the stuff that's on there and I, by the way, I'm not talking about the,

00:17:44.640 you know, the, the photos and the videos he's got on there. I'm not talking about that stuff,

00:17:48.880 right? Even aside from that, what, what to me is so sad is that the American people

00:17:55.760 don't see what's going on here. Why, why, why is it, why is there Ukrainian and Chinese energy

00:18:03.760 interests hiring the son of our vice president while he's in office? Why didn't he have any

00:18:10.720 American companies that were hiring? You might ask, right? And, and you look at this and you say,

00:18:15.680 what were they hiring him for? Was it his business acumen? Well, you know, is, was he a finance

00:18:20.400 wizard? No, it wasn't any of that stuff. They were hiring for access to his father. It is the

00:18:24.960 only thing of value that he's ever had in his life. And by the way, and I would say this too,

00:18:30.480 because I am a believer. But wasn't it just a big globalist thing? I mean,

00:18:33.760 this is how it appears to me. It's another globalist scam thing.

00:18:37.600 This shows you how to get the hooks in. They're not only selling our country lock,

00:18:44.320 stock and barrel, but now they think they can go to every other country and tear it apart and 0.65

00:18:49.600 steal its resources and sell them to, to themselves. That's exactly right. How does this help the people

00:18:55.600 of China, the people of Ukraine? Hillary's brother ends up owning all the gold mines in Haiti.

00:19:02.000 And, uh, so Joe Biden owns all the oil in the Ukraine and a part of it in China. I mean,

00:19:07.840 they just think everything's for sale. They think, you know, you just go, so what if the people, uh,

00:19:13.200 walk about their vultures? They're vultures is what they are. They're vultures.

00:19:17.520 Yeah. It's vulture. We all know what vultures are.

00:19:22.800 It's vulture capitalism, globalism.

00:19:25.600 Exactly. It's, it's, it's not about helping people. It's about picking. It's about when they

00:19:31.040 see a wounded animal, when a, when a, when a vulture sees a wounded animal, they, they land and

00:19:35.520 they start picking out whatever carry and they can get for themselves. That's a vulture. That's

00:19:40.160 what a vulture does.

00:19:40.320 Yeah. When they see an earthquake or a tornado or hurricane, they're like chaching. There's 0.99

00:19:47.280 going to be a lot of busted up houses.

00:19:48.320 Exactly. They don't, they don't want to help people. They don't want to take care of people.

00:19:55.040 They want, they thrive off of chaos, off of social crisis. That's why they create social crises. That's

00:20:01.760 why they manufacture social crises, because that is where they can get their hooks in. That's where

00:20:06.640 they get all of this in. And I look, I lived in China. I lived in China for two years. I don't know if

00:20:10.880 you knew that. Um, I did, I lived in Shanghai and, you know, really got to know the people. I learned the

00:20:17.120 language, learn to speak the language. I had a great time, an absolute great time. But you also

00:20:21.920 learn how controlled they are, how manipulated they are, how isolated they are from real information,

00:20:27.760 from true information. And that's because of communism. And that was about over 10 years ago.

00:20:33.200 And I never thought that that same type of censorship of the internet and that same type of control of

00:20:38.960 information would happen in my own country. Right? So I was over there saying, oh my gosh, you can't

00:20:44.560 access YouTube. You couldn't access YouTube in China. You couldn't access YouTube.

00:20:50.320 I know that. I couldn't, you know, a VPN. I also know that Google turned in many, uh,

00:20:58.400 dissidents over in China and they, and they disappeared off the face of the earth, 0.93

00:21:02.880 our Google, you know, and what they're doing, what they're doing in Hong Kong right now, because

00:21:09.200 the people of Hong Kong, and my heart goes out to them so much because they're fighting for freedom,

00:21:13.520 because they never were communists before. Right? They were always free. And mainland China was

00:21:19.280 communist. So there's mainland China, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. And Hong Kong and Taiwan were free.

00:21:23.840 They were all, they always had their freedom. But now in Hong Kong, and we see what's happening.

00:21:29.040 We see that they're losing their freedom. And you see, and the world can see it. The world can see

00:21:33.360 them fighting tooth and nail for their freedom because they know what they're losing. And look, I'm, I'm

00:21:39.440 Polish background, right? You know, and our, our wiped off the face of the earth for over 120 years, 1.00

00:21:47.760 right? Right. From the Germans and the Russians coming in. And so we know what it's like. We know 1.00

00:21:54.000 what it's like to lose everything and to have to hold on to, you know, everything you hold dear,

00:22:00.000 because that's, that's all you have left. That's when my, when my family came to us,

00:22:05.280 it was because they were, there wasn't, there wasn't even a Poland, right? It was the, uh, 0.99

00:22:08.480 they were actually in the part where it was the Austria, um, Austro-Hungarian empire.

00:22:12.480 And it wasn't until later. And then, but then of course the World War II happened and the Soviet 0.97

00:22:16.880 Union happened. So, you know, you go to people who see Poland today. So why is it, why are the Polish 1.00

00:22:21.520 people? So, so, you know, it's like, they're, they're so patriotic. They're almost militantly

00:22:25.840 patriotic because they know what it's like to lose their freedom. Right. Absolutely.

00:22:33.520 Yeah. And I can't believe how, well, I guess that the first step towards that is a controlled press

00:22:41.760 and boy, we were seeing it here and not that many people are even aware that it's happening.

00:22:48.000 Are they? Well, and that's why, that's why they try so hard to shut down independent voices. That's

00:22:54.000 why they tried so hard to shut down your voice. That's why they tried so hard to shut down social

00:22:58.320 media. That was the problem because social with social media, it got too big too fast and it let

00:23:05.680 people talk to one another and it, it lost, they lost their ability to gate, keep the narrative.

00:23:14.400 They were not able to control the narrative anymore because now I can see, I can go on my phone right

00:23:20.880 now. I can go on my phone right now and I can tell you what's going on in Michigan, in Wisconsin,

00:23:26.320 in, in Pennsylvania, Western Pennsylvania. I can tell you what's going on in Texas where any,

00:23:30.000 any part of the world, you can go right there. You can go there right now. And I don't need a

00:23:33.840 media organization to tell me, uh, what's going on. Cause I could see it with my own eyes.

00:23:38.560 Right. And so the problem that created for those people who want to control those false realities

00:23:44.000 and have maintained their grip on what people believe is true and what, and what people know,

00:23:48.400 uh, think about the rest of the world is now people have the ability to literally, I mean,

00:23:53.840 it's like the cliche, right? Talk amongst yourselves, right? Well, now people can talk

00:23:58.240 amongst themselves now because of that social interactivity, the social networking. Now you run

00:24:03.520 into, it's, it's essentially a global hive mind. And so there's problems with that. And we're still

00:24:07.520 dealing with a lot of the frictions of that because those in power were not expecting this to happen.

00:24:14.160 People are coming together in ways that they never saw happening.

00:24:18.080 Yeah. Movements are coming out starting around the world that they never saw happening. Uh,

00:24:22.960 elections are going in ways that they never thought were possible because so much is being

00:24:28.480 exposed. This is where, this is where, and like, take it out of politics, right? This is where people

00:24:32.560 don't realize that a lot of what Bernie Sanders was saying and a lot about what Donald Trump were

00:24:38.000 saying were actually the same thing. They were actually the same thing.

00:24:41.440 I kept saying that. I know I kept saying that they absolutely are. And I saw that for a long,

00:24:48.800 long time, but boy, they went out of their way to distort both of what both of those people were

00:24:54.480 saying. That's why I was hoping that Bernie would be the candidate of the Democrats so that we could see

00:24:59.200 a real, um, debate between the two, between Trump and Bernie, because I wanted America to see what the

00:25:07.440 real issues were about the economics of the real issues. And I thought that those two candidates

00:25:13.360 would bring it very clearly to us, but you know, they couldn't let that happen. The Democrats couldn't

00:25:19.040 let Bernie. No, no. Clearly he's the winner. And what they did to him was very unfair. What they

00:25:25.120 treated him very unfairly twice in a row, twice. I never saw somebody lose like Bernie Sanders does.

00:25:31.040 I never saw somebody lose like that guy. Cause he just goes down.

00:25:33.840 Yeah. But you know what they did to him and it was so sad.

00:25:39.520 It's so sad. You can't blame him. I don't know. But you know, he did,

00:25:44.480 I would still love to see that debate carried on in front of the American audience.

00:25:50.160 Well, I'd love to see a conversation, like a real conversation between, you know, the people who are

00:25:57.520 Bernie supporters and the people who are sort of those core Trump supporters, because that's populism,

00:26:01.840 right? That's, that's populism and one, you know, one's on the left and one's on the right, but we're

00:26:06.480 still on mainstream. Now I had, when I had my talk show in 1998 or nine, I had a Michael Moore

00:26:15.520 and Donald Trump on, and I, it's on YouTube. You guys can find it.

00:26:19.520 I've seen this video. I've seen, I know exactly what you're talking about.

00:26:21.520 Yeah. And so we did that exact thing. We discussed, you know, the economics of, you know,

00:26:30.320 Trump populism and socialist populism. And I was, you know, that's why I fell in love with Trump then,

00:26:37.600 because he kicked Michael Moore's socialist theology or, you know, dogma. He kicked him in the butt with 0.99

00:26:45.920 that. And, uh, I told him what you ought to run for president and, uh, kind of hoping. Yeah. I was 0.99

00:26:55.120 always kind of hoping he would, because, you know, it's just straight up down the middle solutions.

00:27:00.720 Not, uh, not, not the Sturm and Drang and drama of, um, you know, politics, but actual solutions for

00:27:08.880 the people and the Romney's and the McCain's that's why they never liked Trump. That's why they don't

00:27:16.880 like him because he's not one of them. He ain't one of them. He's not like this country club blue 0.90

00:27:22.160 blood type. You know, he does own his own country clubs, but not, you know what I mean? Right. 0.86

00:27:26.720 He's not from one of these dynasties, right? He's a guy who just looks at it from, you know,

00:27:31.600 from a business perspective and, you know, right or wrong. I just think he looks at these issues a

00:27:36.880 little bit differently and says, how can we do something that actually helps people

00:27:41.440 instead of, you know, going into one of these things with, you know, and by the way, Michael

00:27:45.760 Moore, like I'll give Michael Moore a lot of credit because I think some of his early films are

00:27:50.000 fantastic. I think his very first film, Roger and me was wonderful. It's excellent. It's such a good

00:27:56.160 movie. Um, and that guy, that's a guy who, you know, his politics aren't my politics, but you can

00:28:03.040 tell where he's coming from and you can tell that there was one point in his career where he was

00:28:06.800 in it for the right reasons and he was in it for helping the little guy. And I appreciate,

00:28:10.960 I appreciate that so much. And his movies are very entertaining. They're absolutely entertaining.

00:28:14.800 And he exposed the Bush family in 2004 and he was exposing, uh, big corporations for a very,

00:28:21.440 very, very long time. And I think his ability to do that. And you look at the tactics that Michael

00:28:26.720 Moore used to do, right? And everybody's does it now when Michael Moore, he's the guy who started

00:28:31.520 that whole idea of bring a camera down, right? Bring a camera down to the Capitol building,

00:28:37.040 find the Congressman that you're trying to get a comment out of and stick it in their face. 0.96

00:28:41.600 Just stick it right in their face, right? That's what Roger and me was, right? You use the power of 0.82

00:28:46.720 the media that it, that in and of itself is a very, very powerful tactic. It's very, very powerful

00:28:53.280 journalism. I wish that Michael Moore would go back to that, honestly, because I think he was really good.

00:28:57.520 Yeah. And he got, he kind of got in with the whole corporate

00:29:01.520 notion. I don't know. I don't know why I, you know, I'm going to have a discussion with him again

00:29:07.760 someday, but he became a very wealthy man, became a very wealthy man. And then, uh, then some things

00:29:13.360 changed, I guess. Some people say, Oh, come on, Roseanne. He's a sleeper, but I don't know.

00:29:21.040 I, I don't, I just don't know how he can stand there on the same side as Bush now.

00:29:28.880 Cause Bush loves, uh, Biden. And so does Michael Moore.

00:29:32.800 It's kind of weird, isn't it? It's kind of weird to see the way things are lined up is how can you have

00:29:37.840 the Bush's and the Biden's and like all the Iraq war people and all the, you know, the Afghanistan

00:29:45.120 people and look, look, I'm, I'm a U S Navy veteran, right. You know, and I respect everybody's service,

00:29:51.600 but yes, my, my best friend has been to Afghanistan four times and I don't know why he has to keep

00:29:58.880 going there. I really don't know why. Cause every time he's there, you know, I, I get a phone call

00:30:04.720 every once in a while and I say, you know, I hope you're okay. I hope you're okay. Um, why does he

00:30:10.000 have to keep going to Afghanistan? What, what over there is so important for the United States of

00:30:16.480 America, for my friend to have to be there in that, in that place halfway around the world.

00:30:22.640 Right. I don't see it. I just, I don't see why it's that important. I mean, I'm just,

00:30:27.280 I'm not saying that we shouldn't. And by the way, people say, oh, you just want to, they'll say,

00:30:30.480 oh, you just want to be an isolationist. I didn't say that. I didn't say that.

00:30:34.240 I love that Trump is bringing our troops home. I love that Trump is, uh, you know, making the

00:30:40.320 active, uh, effort to bring our troops home. And he says, they'll be home for Christmas true. 0.89

00:30:45.440 But can you believe that in this day and age, when he says he's making peace and he is creating peace

00:30:52.640 all over the middle East and all over the world and bringing our troops home, that the 0.86

00:30:57.840 left would be up in arms about peace and, um, bringing our, our kids home. They hate that.

00:31:06.000 That's that to me is so confusing because I remember when I was in college, so I was in college

00:31:12.240 in the two thousands, right. During Iraq war. And, and I remember it was the Democrats. It was the left

00:31:18.880 that was anti-war, right? That was code pink. That was Cindy Sheehan. That was all the people that were

00:31:26.400 saying to be anti-Bush meant you were anti-war, right? And Michael Moore and all the rest,

00:31:31.520 they were all anti-war. And that, so how can you go and be a Democrat and then Vietnam, right?

00:31:37.520 Vietnam the same way. It was the left Vietnam that took down, it was the left that took down Johnson. 0.85

00:31:42.560 That's why he couldn't run again because it was the left that was the protest and it was anti-war.

00:31:48.240 So how can you have those same people? Now that same, the same left.

00:31:58.640 Their countries, most people, you know, most Americans couldn't even find on a map because

00:32:04.880 why should you, what does that, how does that help you get a job? How does that help you put food on

00:32:09.040 the table? How does that help you get medicine for your family? How does that help you? You know,

00:32:13.440 if you do happen to have an addict in your family, like Hunter Biden, that needs treatment,

00:32:17.760 right? That doesn't help you. That's just more stress.

00:32:22.800 Well, what do you think is the most important thing on those tapes that you've listened to and

00:32:27.120 the information that you have access to? What do you think is the most important thing that Americans

00:32:32.080 should know and don't know that you can tell them? The most important thing. The most, I mean,

00:32:37.840 honestly, the one that I've, I've seen and heard, and I haven't listened to all the tapes yet,

00:32:42.080 because there's a lot. This guy, I mean, he is a paranoid guy. He's a paranoid guy.

00:32:50.160 Yes. And he is, he is someone who's clearly an addict who look, man, you got somebody in your life

00:32:58.480 like that. And I don't understand how you don't make them your priority and how you say, we're going

00:33:05.360 to get you the help you need. We're going to get you into a program. We're going to do, I mean,

00:33:08.640 they clearly have the money for it. I just, I don't understand why, if this is someone,

00:33:12.800 if it's your son, you know, I've got, you know, I've got a son, he's two years old and I would do

00:33:16.900 anything for him. I would do, I would literally, I, even, even now I know I would do anything for

00:33:21.020 my son, anything it took to, to, to make his life better, to make him healthier, to make him

00:33:27.000 happier. I would do anything. I'm getting a little, I'm getting a little choked up talking about it,

00:33:30.240 right? We got one, we got another one on the way here.

00:33:32.400 Oh, um, and I don't know, right? Yeah. It's going to be a December, a little, little Christmas

00:33:38.720 baby coming. And, uh, can I crash in for one second, Jack, can you please just answer this

00:33:44.400 question for me on record? Sorry, mom. This laptop, these emails, everything that they're claiming

00:33:50.220 is Russian disinfo. It is verified. Yes. Yeah. It's fair. It's a hundred percent. It's do,

00:33:55.340 I could tell you, right? So the daily caller did an excellent investigation. They went to

00:34:00.480 a forensic analyst who actually, they have a copy of the hard drive. They went to a forensic

00:34:05.540 analyst in completely independent, turned it over to them and said, here, you tell us one way or the

00:34:10.360 other guy looks at it, runs it through the entire thing and says, this is a hundred percent. These

00:34:16.060 are real emails. These are, by the way, these, the, the audio files, I mean, in the, in the video,

00:34:21.760 clearly it's a hundred bite and there's no, there's no question. It's a hundred bite. And by the way,

00:34:26.380 none of them is even, has even denied it. Right. None of them will even say it's not

00:34:31.460 Hunter Biden. Right. It's just the people in media will say that, but listen very closely

00:34:35.580 because I've, I've become a student of how to sort of like read between the lines on these

00:34:40.420 guys. And you notice that there's no prominent like politician that has come forward to say

00:34:49.900 that it's fake, right? No one will come forward and say it's fake. They'll say it's a smith.

00:34:56.380 Which is different from saying fake. It's very interesting because what is a smear when it comes

00:35:00.620 out? It was a smear. Was it fake? Is it real? Is it not real? Is it the distortion? What does it

00:35:04.680 mean? Right. There's, it's kind of a vague word when you think about it. So the fact that they won't

00:35:09.540 really everything you need to know right there, then plus the additional verification of this forensic

00:35:14.560 analysis and the fact that look, you've got business associates coming forward. I flew to Chicago

00:35:19.220 Chicago to get access to the email records of one of his business associates, Bevan Cooney,

00:35:26.360 who he gave us essentially me and this other journalist, he gave us access to his Gmail

00:35:30.940 account. He said, here's the, cause he's in jail. He's locked up for one of their other schemes.

00:35:35.220 They were, they were defrauding a native American tribe. They were defrauding a native American tribe 0.99

00:35:40.460 in one of the tribal bonds. Oh my God. And this was a guy they were, they were defrauding

00:35:46.640 native American. And this was after, uh, the dad had left office. So he wasn't VP anymore. So they

00:35:52.420 start getting into riskier and riskier ventures. And so they started to go to this native American 1.00

00:35:57.360 tribe. And they said, and you know what they said? They said, the only reason we signed the deal

00:36:02.220 is because we thought we could trust the Bidens. So that we thought we could trust the Bidens.

00:36:09.900 And that's the name. I mean, you think about, I think about the history, right? You think about

00:36:13.720 the history of American tribes trusting. And like, I mean, it's horrific, absolutely horrific. And so

00:36:19.860 this guy though, he got behind bars, Hunter's Gates, of course, Hunter's Gates, cause nothing ever bad

00:36:25.720 happens to him. Um, but this guy goes behind bars and he said, look, I took the fall for this. Well,

00:36:32.040 you know what? I still got access to my email. So why don't I give that to journalists? And that's

00:36:36.280 what he did. So we've got a whole other set of emails that aren't even from the hard drive

00:36:41.540 confirming it. And then we got Bobolinski, the other Polish, I call him a Polish Hussar. 0.98

00:36:47.080 We're the Polish Hussars. Uh, you know, I'm Polish, he's Polish that it's, we've got so many 1.00

00:36:54.220 people now coming forward and confirming all of it. And he's saying, look, I thought we were doing an

00:36:59.480 investment deal. He said, I work in, I said, I'm, I'm, I'm a serious businessman. I do deals all the

00:37:04.080 time. Uh, you know, I'm an investor. I I'm in finance, but what these guys were doing was not

00:37:10.400 finance. And there were millions of dollars that was going to this family behind the scenes. And

00:37:15.800 he realized what was going on, that they were using his good name to get into one of these,

00:37:21.640 you know, funny money deals from the Chinese, from the Chinese, right? Somebody, you know, 1.00

00:37:28.500 which one, you know, which one you like, I saw a tweet. Um, the guy said Hunter Biden is just a

00:37:33.020 shell for, for Joe Biden. He's a shell company for Joe Biden. Yeah, that's exactly right. Well,

00:37:39.900 what were they, what, what was the whole thing beside the fact that I guess Hunter and his dad

00:37:45.160 were working for a big Chinese spy. I mean, and, but so Spine Stein, right? I mean, who's working

00:37:53.020 for China against the United States? It kind of lays that out, doesn't it? It does. And you really

00:37:59.320 have to start asking the question is when your family is receiving that much financial benefit

00:38:07.240 from your ties to a, a foreign country that, you know, like China, that's, that's clearly an

00:38:13.620 adversary country. Then they have missiles pointed at us. They have missiles pointed at us. 0.62

00:38:21.180 They have missiles pointed. Look, I was, I was deployed to Guam many times. I was deployed to

00:38:25.520 Okinawa many times. And I could guarantee you the Chinese have missiles pointed right at all the 1.00

00:38:30.200 Americans there. They have missiles pointed at Taiwan, at the free Island of Taiwan. Um, they have 0.95

00:38:35.500 missiles pointed at Japan every single day, right? These are our allies, South Korea. Um, and so the

00:38:41.140 question then becomes is why, why were you working with them? What you couldn't, you couldn't get,

00:38:46.920 uh, work for a company in the United States or like something like that, you know, one of these

00:38:53.380 Jack, Jack, as a, uh, journalist, let me ask for your journalistic opinion. Why do you think they were

00:39:01.580 working with China and not anyone in the United States for their business ventures, especially

00:39:08.140 with oil? Because this is okay. So I put on my journalist tag here or even my, even my China

00:39:14.280 analyst hat on, because I did, you know, I've been working with China for, for almost 15 years now

00:39:18.480 is that when it comes to China, um, the way the communist party works is it's almost like a gang,

00:39:27.280 right? It's almost like a gang. And, uh, that actually goes back to their history because the

00:39:31.760 Chinese communist party very early on, um, when they were, when they were building up and, and

00:39:37.280 working to take over China, they made deals with the triads and the triads are the gangs in China,

00:39:41.920 right? They're like the cartels. And so the triad culture really kind of went into the CCP,

00:39:48.160 went into the communist party. And so when they bring somebody in, they did that in Russia too.

00:39:53.440 They do the exact same thing in Russia. It's called blotnoy in Russia. It's blotnoy in Chinese.

00:39:58.720 It's triad or guanxi. Um, but same idea, blotnoy, guanxi, the same, it's all the same stuff, right?

00:40:04.880 It's all the same stuff. So it's, they don't, you know, bribery in the West or getting someone to do

00:40:10.800 a deal for you. It's like, you bribe a Congressman cause you want, you know, so the lobbyist gives

00:40:14.960 $10,000 to the campaign. And now you get, um, you know, some environmental regulation that you

00:40:20.640 want put in or you want taken off, right? That's bribery in the U S right. But bribery over there

00:40:25.920 is, Hey, we're, we're going to, we're going to bring your family in and your family is going to

00:40:30.960 become our family. And now we are family, we become family together, right? So you're building,

00:40:35.360 it's all relationship based, it's network based, and it's in China specifically, they use this term

00:40:40.000 called guanxi, guanxi. And so guanxi, it's, it's like, it's like a relationship, a connection,

00:40:46.160 a family connection. Uh, it's very deep. So if you have good guanxi with somebody, uh, that means

00:40:52.720 now you're in deeper and deeper with them. And that's the type of relationship that you see being

00:40:58.080 built between the Bidens and the communist party, uh, along with many of these other organizations

00:41:04.320 and, and oligarchs really foreign oligarchs. And the only reason that they would have to do that

00:41:10.160 is for influence inside the United States of America is the sole reason that any of these

00:41:16.960 outlets or outfits would do this. There's no financial benefit there. Uh, they could probably

00:41:21.360 find a Chinese guy to do that for, for far, you know, far less than a Biden, but you're hiring Biden 0.81

00:41:27.360 for the name, you're hiring for the name for access. Um, and so we already don't know.

00:41:32.560 We don't, I mean, let me, let me tell you something. If you think that as Biden says,

00:41:38.080 the spy chief of China was only interested in him for his, uh, you know, for his, you know,

00:41:44.400 business analysis that, uh, you know, I got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you buddy. Right.

00:41:48.240 Right. That's not what the spy chief is there. He's there to spy on you because that's his job,

00:41:53.040 because he's going back to Beijing and Zhongnanhai, which is their, uh, kind of like their, their Kremlin

00:41:58.640 to tell them what's going on in the United States, what's going on inside the U S white

00:42:03.600 house and potentially to get their interests pushed in Washington, DC. It's a feeding frenzy

00:42:10.800 in this situation, right? Such as buying up all the ports, right? Like the Seattle port and the,

00:42:16.320 uh, buying the ports is a big one. That's right. That's actually, that's absolutely correct.

00:42:20.400 How did Joe Biden help that happen? That we actually sold our ports, our American ports to China.

00:42:28.880 Was he involved in helping that happen? Didn't it happen during the Obama administration?

00:42:33.360 You know, I would have to actually look that one up specifically. I don't have that right in front of

00:42:38.160 me, but I, I can tell you that during the Obama administration, one major thing that the Chinese

00:42:44.080 were able to take control of almost completely is the Panama canal, the Panama canal, which is one of

00:42:50.080 the most important commercial shipping, uh, logistics. Um, we would call them, um, you know,

00:42:57.200 bottlenecks in the Navy or choke points there. That's the, one of the most strategic commercial

00:43:03.360 waterways in the entire Western hemisphere. The Chinese own just about every company that operates 0.96

00:43:10.160 that those locks that operates that canal. And that's something that used to be a part

00:43:14.000 of a special relationship between the United States and Panama. They want to shut that down.

00:43:18.880 Didn't Jimmy Carter give that to him or walk away from it or something?

00:43:24.000 He did. And so the idea was that it was going to be a 99 year, uh, you know, you know,

00:43:29.040 lease from Panama, but then, then, then, then Carter gave that up. But what Carter did more specifically

00:43:36.240 in terms of China was that he changed the recognition. So China had the communist revolution,

00:43:42.240 but Taiwan always stayed, uh, a Republic. They always stayed a, a, a free country. And so we used

00:43:49.120 to recognize Taiwan as the rightful government of China. And even when Nixon and Kissinger went to

00:43:55.600 China and, and started to warm the relations there, um, they never gave them formal recognition.

00:44:03.440 They still recognize Taiwan and, or excuse me. Oh no, I said that right. They still recognize Taiwan,

00:44:08.880 but it was Carter who switched it. And by switching it, that set the stage for China's rise.

00:44:15.520 That meant that now the seat for China on the UN national, or the United Nations Security Council

00:44:22.560 became Chinese. It went to Beijing rather than Taiwan. So it went to the communists is the way to look at it. 0.83

00:44:29.760 Right. So Carter gave that over to the communists. Uh, the rest of it went full communist. That was

00:44:35.280 the start of the buildup with Beijing. So Chairman Mao has died at this point. Deng Xiaoping has come in.

00:44:40.720 And what happened 10 years after that, 10 years after that was Tiananmen Square. They promised us 0.91

00:44:47.360 that they would play better. They said, we're going to play nice. Chairman Mao's gone. He's not here anymore.

00:44:52.720 Don't worry. We're going to open up. We're going to be a good country. We're going to treat our people

00:44:56.960 right. And then you did Tiananmen Square 10 years later. Right. And we didn't. And what,

00:45:00.880 how did we respond to Tiananmen Square? How did the United States respond to Tiananmen Square?

00:45:05.840 Nothing. We let, we let China into the World Trade Organization. 0.99

00:45:11.440 10 years after that, we let them into the World Trade Organization. Why? Because of money. Because

00:45:17.360 there's so many people in this country, the elite class in this country, they look at, they looked at

00:45:22.720 China and look, I, I was there. I was working in the American chamber of commerce in Shanghai

00:45:27.120 when I was in my twenties. They look at China as two things. Look at it as a market

00:45:34.960 where they can sell their goods to potentially, you know, 1.5 billion people. And they look at it as a

00:45:39.760 place where their goods can be as, as cheap labor, right? Where their goods can be manufactured very

00:45:45.760 cheaply. And then, so the wealth goes into their pocket and it completely bypasses. The wealth

00:45:50.800 bypasses the American worker and the American family. And so in that wealth.

00:45:54.960 They also look at it as, they also look at it as a huge population of docile workers

00:46:01.920 that will work, you know, that have no choice, but to work for, you know, a little more than

00:46:07.440 slave wages. That's a, that's a yahoo for those people. That's a real, that's right. And that's,

00:46:13.600 that's, that's all they're looking for at the, at the end, you know, and this is,

00:46:16.560 we talked about ultra capitalism, right? This is where, and then you had a political class that

00:46:22.560 went right along with it because in some cases they're getting the campaign donations, but in

00:46:29.600 other, and it's quite extreme, it's quite extreme where now you've got family members of these

00:46:35.440 politicians, US politicians that are working for companies literally in other countries,

00:46:41.920 foreign countries. Think about that, right? You know, imagine like, I know it's kind of like

00:46:47.520 almost cliche, but imagine we hear Donald Trump Jr. signs a deal to be on the board of Vladimir Putin's

00:46:55.520 gas company, right? It's exactly that. Imagine what would happen.

00:47:00.400 Exactly that. Would they be calling? Well, for one thing, it would be on the news 24 seven and

00:47:07.840 everyone would be out beyond outrage, but you know, it's just all, you know, this one party that

00:47:14.640 will do anything in pursuit of keeping its own power. And that's all they care about. They don't

00:47:19.680 care about their constituents or the country or anything else. They're not even, they don't even,

00:47:26.480 I don't even know why they're representing anything to do with America. They, they represent nothing

00:47:32.640 for the American people. I always think of the Declaration of Independence when in the course of

00:47:38.320 human events, you know, it is that time. We, we're not, we're not giving our consent to a government.

00:47:47.920 I mean, we need to really rethink giving our consent to a government built on our destruction.

00:47:52.880 Well, that's, that's why there is a populist movement now in America, right? That's why,

00:47:59.360 because when we, once we got access to the internet and we started sharing stories and comparing notes

00:48:05.440 and finding out what was going on and the democratization of information that's going on,

00:48:10.320 it's, it completely exposed what was going on. It completely exposed what was going on. And then we

00:48:16.640 realized that, you know what, it's not just us who think this way. There's actually a whole lot of us.

00:48:22.480 In fact, there's millions and millions of us who think this way and say, you know what,

00:48:28.960 maybe we've had a little bit too much of this globalization. Maybe it's time for a little bit

00:48:33.840 more Americanization. And it's, it's just the idea of, of normal people kind of standing up.

00:48:38.800 You know, power has to, when power is spread thin, it has to be consolidated. And when it's too

00:48:44.480 consolidated, then it has to be, you know, decentralized. That's, those are just the modes

00:48:50.080 it goes in. But now it's like beyond, Oh yeah. Well, it's like, you know, beyond centralized now,

00:49:00.640 they don't want to let it go. So that can be dispersed with, you know, because then it takes

00:49:05.600 all of their hoarded wealth. They're, they're really sick. And we've allowed them to be sick. Like, 0.99

00:49:12.080 it's a whole, uh, a whole class of, of, uh, of Hunter Biden's that we've all allowed to be out

00:49:19.600 there high on coke, doing damage to all of us. And this is what people need to understand that

00:49:25.280 do you think Hunter Biden's the only one out there like this, you know, in this system?

00:49:30.400 This is the, he's just one guy, right? And I feel for him. I pray for Hunter Biden's soul. I pray for his

00:49:38.560 soul. I do. You can tell this is a troubled guy because I really do believe, and this might be me,

00:49:43.680 I might be looking into this too much, but I really do believe that underneath all of it,

00:49:47.840 the reason for his pain is that he does still have a conscience. It's in there.

00:49:52.800 I think so too. And I think, I think that's why he's talking is, I think that he's confessing because

00:49:59.840 I think that he, he's trying to repent and get right with God. Some, you know, a lot of people have

00:50:04.640 said that a lot of people have said that I think he's like, okay, here, I gotta let it go. I can't

00:50:10.880 live sick like this anymore. I can't be part of it, you know? And that's what it'll take. Just about

00:50:16.880 five of those, five of those guys on that level, just going, I can't put up with this anymore.

00:50:22.960 I gotta take care of my soul for once. I hope he does. I hope, I hope he does for his own sake,

00:50:29.920 for the sake of, he seems to have, you know, some, I mean, he's got, he's got three daughters

00:50:34.880 of his own. And then he's got two more, uh, kids and they, they seem to be wonderful people.

00:50:40.240 Um, you know, the, the kids that I mean to say that, you know, there's a guy who's got a lot to

00:50:45.280 live for, right? If you get clean and if you start putting your best foot forward and you just walk

00:50:51.280 away, man, like if Hunter Biden, if you're watching this, if you're watching this right now,

00:50:55.920 you don't have to live in your father's shadow anymore. You don't have to do this. You can walk

00:51:01.920 away. You can, you can, you can throw your phone in the river. Right. And just walk away. You can be

00:51:08.400 the biggest hero too. All we want is the truth. And, uh, you know, as big and deep and horrible as it

00:51:16.400 gets and a lot of us suspect how deep and horrible it is, but you could be the hero of all the human

00:51:22.720 beings and rejoin your way out. That's your way out. You want redemption, Hunter Biden. You want

00:51:27.840 that redemption arc of the story, right? The hero's journey come forward, come forward and tell everyone

00:51:35.760 the truth, right? Just tell, just expose it, expose all of them. Think, think about that,

00:51:42.000 right? Think about the amount of power that you could have. Think about the movies that would be

00:51:47.600 written about you. The, the, the TV series, the books that everybody would remember that he was

00:51:52.480 the man who exposed it all. We've already got the documents. We've, so there's nothing to hide,

00:51:58.640 right? Like we've already, we can see it, but you can walk us through this stuff.

00:52:06.000 The same way Bobulinski did when he went on TV the other night, Hunter, you could do

00:52:11.360 that in front of the American people. You could come forward and say, you know what?

00:52:17.040 Nobody wants to live like this. I don't want to live. I don't want you to live like this.

00:52:22.240 Right? Like I saw that he, you know, he, you can tell he likes music.

00:52:26.800 It's such a horrible deal with the devil. And to have your soul completely compromised by the devil

00:52:33.360 himself, that would, that would be a hell to live with, with any, any flickering or any spark of

00:52:40.400 conscience left at all. That would be a horrible battle to be fighting.

00:52:46.640 No, and that's what's going on. And you hear in some of these tapes and some of this stuff that

00:52:50.960 it's just him talking to himself and it's him talking to himself about pain. It's him talking to

00:52:55.840 himself about loss and he's, he's, he's driving around, recording his own thoughts in this.

00:53:00.560 And I, I hear a guy who's asking for help when I, when I listen to that stuff. And I, I, I hear a guy

00:53:06.640 who's asking for help and I, I hope that he gets it. And I, I, I want him to have that help and I want

00:53:13.040 him to be able to walk away from this, this, this, this demonism to walk away from this, this pain and

00:53:20.720 this anger and living with that because you don't have to, you don't have to.

00:53:24.560 You went through it. You say you've been sober for a number of years. So you know what you're

00:53:28.640 talking about, right? I'm, I'm 15 years sober myself. I'm 15 years sober and you know, not to

00:53:35.520 get into everything, but you know, I got to a point where I said. But did you find yourself terribly

00:53:39.280 compromised where you couldn't go down another step on that road? That's how I felt. Yeah.

00:53:46.800 That's how I felt. If I took one more step down that road, then I would not be

00:53:51.200 the kind of person that I want to be. Yeah. And I, I turned around and I, I turned around and I said,

00:53:56.480 I said, I said, God, if you get me out of this situation, I'm going to turn completely around.

00:54:01.680 I'm never going to look back. Yeah. And that's 15 years, 15 years, 15 years, 15 years in a month,

00:54:09.040 actually. But I said, I'm never going to look back. I think a lot of us have done that. A lot of us have

00:54:13.680 had that dark night of the soul. So what do you, what can you tell us about Hunter Biden's tapes that

00:54:20.480 might inspire Hunter Biden to go out of hell with it? I'm going to get, I'm going for the light.

00:54:29.520 I mean, Hunter, it's all here, right? You know, and I'll say a good,

00:54:32.960 a good 90% of this stuff is, is family drama. Um, you know,

00:54:40.160 this one said this and the uncle said that, and the dad said this, and here's the cousin and

00:54:45.840 someone's mad at someone else. It's very, uh, uh, aren't they trying to cover up? Aren't they trying

00:54:51.760 to cover up his, um, you know, kind of, uh, incestuous relationship with his niece? Aren't

00:54:59.840 they all afraid that's going to come out there? There are some text messages that are concerning in

00:55:09.520 that. And I'm not going to confirm that because I don't have the right kind of tools in, I don't

00:55:17.360 have the kind of training. I'm just going on the text. I saw where they're saying we all need to get

00:55:21.840 together and discuss this and get our story straight because there's clearly a concern

00:55:29.200 about, about inappropriate behavior. There's clearly a concern about inappropriate behavior, but

00:55:35.360 it's, you know, to me, someone who hasn't worked in that field specifically, I mean, I'll tell you how

00:55:42.080 much I've, I've worked in China. I've done some counter-terrorism work. I was at Guantanamo Bay

00:55:45.760 for a year. Um, you know, I've, I've been in politics. I would feel out of my depth to say that I knew

00:55:54.400 what that meant, but I will say that I've heard other people that have looked at that stuff and said,

00:56:00.480 I, that they aren't sure that children would be safe in this situation. Right. And when you have

00:56:07.680 someone like that, who's living on the edge that much with kids around, right, you, you've got to

00:56:12.960 be worried about those kids, especially if this is someone who's the head of a household. Right. So

00:56:17.280 with, with the drug use and everything else that's going on, if there's children involved,

00:56:22.320 there's people who are underage. I mean, we have, we have a, a strong amount of, of laws in this 0.69

00:56:27.600 country that deal with that. And in many cases, of course, uh, in one of those situations, it's

00:56:34.080 actually the grandparents who get involved because the grandparents aren't, they can see it, but they're

00:56:38.960 not directly in it themselves. And so in many of those cases, it actually is the grandparents

00:56:44.000 that kind of blow the whistle. They pick up the phone and call the right people. And so, uh,

00:56:49.920 what you see in the text messages is a, a desire to, to incriminate one another.

00:56:58.240 You see Hunter saying, that's a lie. This is a lie. Everyone's a liar, right? To Hunter,

00:57:03.360 everyone's a liar. The world's against him. He's paranoid. He's constantly paranoid. He's, 0.94

00:57:08.480 and, and by the way, if you're, if you're someone who's in that family, I hope you know this,

00:57:12.080 but Hunter Biden is, is getting into your, your phones. He's getting into your text messages,

00:57:17.360 your Facebooks. He, um, he keeps out, he tries to keep track of people, their physical locations.

00:57:23.520 Um, and this is typical addict behavior, by the way, this is, this is, this is classic

00:57:27.280 textbook, addict behavior, um, to be paranoid.

00:57:30.000 Well, it's also the behavior of a person who's supposed to be the rescuer in a real sick family.

00:57:36.320 That's what it reminds me of. He's been put in the position where he says,

00:57:40.160 you know, I've supported this family for the last 30 years. And I won't, uh, I won't ask you to give

00:57:46.880 me half of what you make like dad asked me, you know, that, that text. And, uh, so it's like somebody

00:57:53.440 who's been cast in a real sick family as the rescuer and he can't get free of it. Cause he's like,

00:57:59.520 he feels like he's responsible to support so many people and that he's trapped in this,

00:58:05.280 in this terrible system that, you know, is dependent on him. Keep on doing, you know,

00:58:11.200 all the dirty work to keep the money coming in. So that'd be like a double bind on him.

00:58:17.200 You know, right. Because, and there actually is, um, there actually is some audio, uh, that,

00:58:23.920 that we do have and, uh, we're working on isolating it and, and being able to get that

00:58:29.120 out where he talks about, he actually talks about that. He says, do you have the ability,

00:58:34.160 do you understand what it's like to have the pressure of the expectations that are set on me,

00:58:39.360 the expectations, who's setting those expectations on him? Who's setting those expectations?

00:58:45.520 Who, you know, who is it in his life? Right. I think it's his dad and his whole family.

00:58:52.080 Who is it that's pushing on him like that? That's, I'd like to know.

00:58:56.160 I think it's his whole family. They want, you know, they, they want that money. They want to,

00:59:00.720 you know, live the way they want to live. And you know, how else are they going to do it?

00:59:05.120 He has to go, he's the bag man and he has to go do it.

00:59:09.360 I mean, you look at some of the, some of the homes, this family owns on some of the, the,

00:59:14.640 the wealth that they've been able to accumulate over the years that their father's been in office,

00:59:19.360 the 47 years they've done very well for themselves. They've done so well for themselves.

00:59:24.000 The Biden family, just in terms of money, they have some beautiful homes. You know,

00:59:28.880 he drive luxury cars, the whole nine yards. And you know, I actually said this, you know,

00:59:34.480 it's kind of, kind of jokingly, but you know, it's a little political, I guess, but you see,

00:59:38.160 I say, when I look, when I, when I look at the Trump's, right, I can walk into a Trump hotel.

00:59:43.040 I can, I can go to a Trump golf course. I know how they made their money. I know, I know how they do,

00:59:48.000 because you can go there. You can see the people they put to work.

00:59:50.880 Where did the Biden's get all this money? Where'd that all come from?

00:59:56.240 Well, it came from us, but you know, he's to be real fair. He's certainly not the only politician

01:00:04.080 in our government. That's gotten rich, being a servant of us while we get poorer and poor

01:00:10.800 and our servant keeps getting richer and richer. I mean, look at the houses, members of Congress

01:00:16.400 live in on this salary that we pay them. So they're all cutting side deals. And didn't they

01:00:22.400 make it legal in Congress for them to do insider trading while they sent Martha Stewart to prison?

01:00:29.200 I mean, it's just so corrupt. I don't know. When Donald Trump talks about draining the swamp,

01:00:35.600 you know, my one friend, he says, you know, we should get everybody out and just get rid of the 0.98

01:00:41.120 whole DC kicks. It can't be fixed. It's so it is so fixed. It can't, you know,

01:00:47.120 being so I live in these or I live near DC. I should say I live in DC area and I work in DC and

01:00:52.880 you wouldn't, you wouldn't believe that there are people in this town don't understand what it's like

01:00:59.520 out there in the rest of the country. They don't understand how they're viewed by the rest of the

01:01:03.360 country. It's like, you know, and I know this is a silly comparison, but it's like, it's like,

01:01:08.400 it's like when you're in, if you ever remember that movie, the hunger games, you ever see hunger

01:01:11.680 games? Oh yeah. Yeah. It's remember they had the capital capital and that was like the elites.

01:01:18.160 I saw that picture of Joe Biden the other day with like, everyone's in like the circles and the

01:01:22.240 chairs. And it said, this looks like a sci-fi movie, what they had like from out of the hunger

01:01:26.080 games when the elites are like having their, you know, their, uh, little, little like, like

01:01:32.480 banquet dinner. And then you go out into the rest of the country and you got businesses,

01:01:37.360 small businesses that are completely going under in this country right now. You've got workers

01:01:43.280 that aren't getting the relief they need. Then you've got riots, you've got anarchism,

01:01:48.080 you've got people that are upset. You've got all sorts of this unrest throughout the country.

01:01:52.480 But here in Washington DC, you know, these, these guys don't see it. You know, they just,

01:01:57.120 they just, uh, they just walk away. They just walk away from them. They say, oh, the, you know,

01:02:01.840 the, the people are, are upset about something or other again. Let's just, let's, you know, let's, uh,

01:02:07.440 let's go down to some, you know, private islands for the, uh, let's go to a private islands for the

01:02:12.720 weekend and get out of town while the, the rabble are so upset, you know, put up the planks in front of 0.98

01:02:18.320 the windows. We'll be fine. And we come back because it doesn't affect them. Right. It doesn't affect them.

01:02:22.000 So it, it just kind of reminds me of, of a hunger game. And then Trump is kind of like,

01:02:26.800 he's like the guy who's out in the districts, like actually talking to people while the people here

01:02:31.760 in DC, the people at hand, there's different enclaves, Silicon Valley, et cetera. LA is another

01:02:37.120 one of those, those sort of power hubs, the United States where they, they're not affected. They're not

01:02:40.960 affected by this. They say, you know, the people that are living in Manhattan, they say, oh, well,

01:02:44.720 they just rent a house in, uh, you know, in the Hampton. So they leave their condo because their condo

01:02:49.360 is worth nothing now. And they go out to that house. What about the people who can't afford

01:02:53.280 to do that? What happens to them? We don't, we don't got anything for you. You can, you can go

01:02:59.600 fight in the, uh, you can go fight in the tournament and for our amusement, right? That's, that's what you

01:03:04.160 do. Exactly. It's so that it's sickening. It's just sickening. It's, uh, and their level of arrogance

01:03:12.080 is just sickening. Everybody, you know, no, I know they don't know, but we hate them. We hate 0.98

01:03:21.360 both of them, both parties of them. Yeah. There's just such a level of anger in this country. There's

01:03:26.720 such a level of anger and frustration about what's going on. There's such an anger about the lies.

01:03:31.520 There's such an anger about the, the fit, the failed promises, you know, the, the, the idea that,

01:03:38.160 you know, so many people, when I, when I talk to Trump supporters and, you know, a lot of people

01:03:44.080 will say, you know, I say, why do you like Trump? And I try to interview people when I go to these

01:03:47.760 rallies and these events. And one of the first things that I hear is that the man does what he

01:03:52.560 says. It's, and it's, what's interesting to me about the way they respond to that is it's not

01:03:57.760 necessarily that they're saying they agree with what he said, but just a simple fact that you can take

01:04:04.720 that man at his word that he makes a promise and then he keeps it is so completely different from

01:04:10.480 the broken trust that every, uh, citizen of this country or many citizens of this country have

01:04:17.680 for the political class, that it's such a breath of fresh air that here's a guy who, you know, he

01:04:24.400 has that line. He says, now he said, if I don't sound like a politician is because I'm not a politician.

01:04:28.720 Right. You know, and it's, it's, it's true though, that people are sick of hearing. And this was

01:04:34.000 something where you saw it at the second debate about using the term political class. I had this

01:04:40.880 conversation with somebody else not long ago and I said, well, to be, to, if words are going to mean

01:04:46.640 something, we have to be really a succinct in our use of them. And it would be better to define it as a

01:04:53.120 prostitute class because they're not what's the old line. They say, uh, uh, politics is the sec, 1.00

01:05:04.240 the second oldest profession and it bears a striking resemblance to the first.

01:05:09.040 Yeah. But I mean, they're just hired people who, you know, they're hired by big money to do big

01:05:15.840 money's business. And that's right. That's absolutely not political. I mean, look at how many, uh,

01:05:22.320 Republicans are really Democrats, you know, they call them rhinos. Um, but you know, they're,

01:05:29.600 they're not really political at all. It's just go and wear them.

01:05:32.480 So what would it, would a Democrat name only be a dino? You never hear anyone say dino.

01:05:36.960 I know I've said that, but you said dino. Okay. Yeah. Dinos.

01:05:41.440 But of course there's no such thing as Democrat in name only. Although I guess you just say communist.

01:05:47.200 Well, you know, and that's something where like, so my, my wife, for example, she, um, 0.76

01:05:55.440 she was born in the Soviet union. Uh, she's an immigrant and, um, she was able to get,

01:06:01.200 to get into the United States legally, of course, got her citizenship, worked her way up. Um,

01:06:07.200 and you know, when you talk to immigrants from these socialist countries or, or former socialist

01:06:16.880 countries, right. Right. They make some of the best Americans, right. They make some of the absolute

01:06:22.720 best Americans because they know what it's like and they come here for opportunity, right. They come

01:06:28.800 here to say, finally, I have a chance to work and to earn, right. To, or excuse me, to keep,

01:06:35.280 to keep what I earned. Right. And that's a completely different proposition than you have in socialism

01:06:41.520 because in a socialist, they come here for a free press or what's left of it. You know,

01:06:47.760 they come here because we had a relatively free press and because we had the right to free speech.

01:06:55.200 And because we add the right to a freedom of religion, all these things are on the ballot now,

01:07:02.240 stunningly. Well, I think, I honestly do think that whatever happens and you know, I don't want to,

01:07:08.880 uh, I don't want to get into predictions too much because we are, we are the Friday before election,

01:07:14.320 you know? Um, and I appreciate you not asking me that, but I'll, uh, you know, put me on the spot,

01:07:19.600 but I do think it's going to be close. I think it's gonna be close either way. I think it's,

01:07:23.040 I think anyone who, who tells you they know what's going to happen right now is, you know,

01:07:27.520 they're, they're fooling themselves. They're either a fool or they're fooling themselves 0.99

01:07:30.960 because you've got a guy who's leading a populist movement, but you've also got, 0.99

01:07:36.160 as we've just detailed over the past hour, you've got so much big money that's pulling against him.

01:07:43.680 You've got so much big money that's pulling against him. And so that is really the question,

01:07:50.320 right? That's the question is, where are we? But here's the thing that I can tell you,

01:07:53.760 because nobody's asking about this, say, what happened after? Well, tell you what,

01:07:57.360 if, if Trump doesn't win, none of this stuff is good that we're talking about is going to change,

01:08:02.960 right? It's going to go back to the way it was. And so those frustrations and that social pressure

01:08:10.320 and that angst, that anxiety, that, you know, that, that sort of the haves versus the have nots,

01:08:15.840 the, the, you know, the people that are locked out of their jobs versus the people who have

01:08:20.640 recession proof jobs, all of that is going to remain the same. And those social pressures are

01:08:26.080 still going to be there. So either if you don't get it out with Donald Trump, if he ends up not

01:08:31.760 being the guy for whatever reason to do that, then something is going to come down the line because

01:08:38.240 social pressure is real. Human nature is real. It is immutable. You cannot change it. It's been

01:08:43.760 unchanging since biblical times. You can read the Bible and you see people back then were just the

01:08:47.760 same way they are now. Right. And so it's just this Thomas Hobbes, Thomas Hobbes always wins in

01:08:53.840 the end. He always wins. And so those pressures are not going to go away. And so what that looks like,

01:09:00.400 I don't know, but I do know that a relief valve will need to happen at some point down the line.

01:09:07.920 Yeah. I don't know what's going to happen either. I'm just witnessing.

01:09:11.040 I think that's what we're called to witness right now because it is so important.

01:09:16.320 And in order to witness, you have to have facts so that you can make a judgment.

01:09:21.200 And so many people are watching, but they're not able to witness because they're not informed

01:09:26.240 enough to witness. It's just like, well, and I, you know, I don't, I don't necessarily hold that

01:09:31.280 against people a lot of the time too, because this stuff, man, I, I didn't want to have to,

01:09:36.560 you know, get into this stuff in my life. I didn't, you know, want to, you know, even get

01:09:42.080 into politics. I didn't like politics. I think it's kind of boring. But you know,

01:09:47.520 when you see what's going on, I get so frustrated about the lies and I would get so frustrated about

01:09:53.200 people being sold out. I would get so frustrated seeing my friends being sent to, you know, parts

01:09:59.360 of the world that have nothing to do with protecting their families. Hey, join the military,

01:10:04.160 protect your family, right? You know, it's a pretty strong selling point. And yet they get

01:10:07.840 sent somewhere that has nothing to do with their family. And then somebody dies and when they're

01:10:14.800 gone and now their family has lost that person. And for what? That means our country has lost that

01:10:19.040 person. That means that community has lost that person, that person who was a hero, right?

01:10:24.880 Wouldn't it be better to have that hero here in our community, building our country,

01:10:29.200 building our families, building our communities? Wouldn't it be better to have that hero?

01:10:32.640 I think, I think the fabric, the fabric of our, of our, um, social agreement with each other has just

01:10:41.040 been ripped apart out from under us. And I, I think it's going to take a long time to weave it back

01:10:47.360 together and re, re, uh, string it. And I don't see anything that's helping that to happen.

01:10:56.320 Well, I'll tell you what though, you know, I think my big thing though, is, is, is that, you know,

01:11:02.560 we have the ability to talk to each other now in ways that we look at, look at me. I'm like, come on.

01:11:10.400 Yeah. Uh, well, that is the only hope I think we have is that we can speak

01:11:14.960 civilly to each other and disagree.

01:11:16.560 And that's, that's it. It's, it's, it's, we have each other and we have God.

01:11:20.800 Right.

01:11:21.680 And that's, that's very strong. I think that's very strong.

01:11:24.560 We have truth. So let's add number three. We have truth. We do have the benefit of having

01:11:28.720 truth on our side. And those, those are very strong and there, there will be a strong win.

01:11:32.960 What do you think is the scariest? I keep wanting you to, I want to nail you down on this.

01:11:38.400 What's the scariest part of the whole

01:11:42.720 Biden China tapes thing? What's, what's the big, I mean, why are they trying to cover it up

01:11:51.360 so badly, so incredibly desperately? What do they not want us to know that we should know?

01:11:58.800 Okay. That, that, that part's easy. Um, they want to cover this up not because they don't care

01:12:05.120 about Hunter Biden. And to an extent they don't care about Joe Biden as much. It's because it's

01:12:10.560 their emails to Hunter Biden because they didn't realize that Hunter Biden was saving all this

01:12:17.120 information on them. They didn't realize that Hunter Biden, uh, was, was saving text messages

01:12:23.280 and screenshots and audio files and emails for years that he's had. Right. Um, they're all in

01:12:32.800 this thing. And the minute you start unraveling some of this stuff, you can see where all the,

01:12:37.680 you know, they always say, follow the money, right? Well, it's not easy to follow the money.

01:12:41.120 Actually it's, it's, it's hard to follow the money, especially when you don't have,

01:12:44.560 you know, I'm, I'm here doing this independently as, um, you know, prior to when I was in the, uh,

01:12:49.680 in the intelligence community, we had a lot more tools to be able to follow the money very easily.

01:12:53.920 But these guys do such a, a shell game, right? Why, why is it that there's so many LLCs and firms and

01:13:01.200 all the different things they use to set up, right? Just to hide what they're doing.

01:13:04.640 But with it's hiding that they're stealing money, right?

01:13:07.600 With this, you have the roadmap to understanding everything you have and everything that it

01:13:14.880 connects to. And you have all the names. Well, what is that? What is that? What's the big thing?

01:13:22.640 What is it? Well, it's, I mean, it's what we're talking about. The proof.

01:13:26.720 One thing has to be that money power, the trading of favors at highest levels, right? And the amount

01:13:39.920 of people who are involved in this stuff, right? And this is their own, and that's the power of it.

01:13:45.440 It's not one person saying it's their own words, their own actions, the contracts, their signatures,

01:13:51.280 right? Their, their signatures in the, by their own hand on these documents, right?

01:13:56.480 Are you talking about people beside the Biden family?

01:14:00.720 That's right. Absolutely. Absolutely. People, way, people way beyond the Biden family, right?

01:14:05.040 So we're talking, this is, this is the international, the people that are involved in these, these trade

01:14:11.040 deals, the people that are involved in putting together our selling out of the United States to,

01:14:17.520 to communist China, to allowing China to rise. You're, you're getting all the money players

01:14:23.120 involved in this. And, and you look, there was, there's, I'll give you a great example. I'll give

01:14:27.200 you a great example. There's this, uh, this American think tank out there that's always constantly

01:14:33.040 attacking, uh, this story and they're calling it Russian disinformation called Russian disinformation.

01:14:39.040 By the way, never accepted a single, I don't know what they have, ruble, a ruble. I never set

01:14:43.920 the ruble in my life. All right. I've only always, I've been paying dollars, United States dollars,

01:14:49.120 George Washington, because I don't make too much money. So George, George Washington. And, uh, uh,

01:14:54.800 uh, they, they claim it's all Russian. And this, this one think tank, right? Well, I turn it around

01:15:01.840 and you say, well, okay, who's paying you guys, who's paying you guys to, to come at us like this.

01:15:07.600 And then, so we start digging, uh, you know, the first one, the first name that I see on there,

01:15:15.600 what? Burisma. The first name I see that here's an organization that's paid by Burisma,

01:15:23.200 which is the same. It's a Ukrainian gas company, but it's the one that Hunter Biden was on the board.

01:15:30.640 Why is a Ukrainian gas company giving money to an American media outlet? How does that make any

01:15:39.440 sense? That blames Russia, that blames us, that blames anybody telling the truth. So when you dig

01:15:47.280 down and suddenly you see, there's the money, there's the name right there. And you can put

01:15:51.760 the entire thing together. There's, here's a media outlet that's being funded essentially by Burisma.

01:15:56.960 Wow. We are tracking the money now and we have the power. These are the names you were never

01:16:04.400 supposed to hear. These are the connections you were never supposed to see. I don't need to be

01:16:08.800 Rachel Maddow with one of those like spaghetti chart. I don't have any notes in front of me.

01:16:13.200 I don't have anything in front of me, or it's just me and you talking right now. It's a webcam.

01:16:16.880 Um, I don't need one of those spaghetti charts and talking about like, uh, six layers from Kevin

01:16:22.400 Bacon, six degrees of Kevin Bacon on explaining this stuff to people. Ukraine gave money to the

01:16:29.840 Bible. What do you think of her? What do you think of Rachel Maddow as a journalist? What,

01:16:35.120 what do you, how do you view Rachel Maddow?

01:16:36.640 All right. So I have a whole theory about MSNBC. Do you want to hear my theory about MSNBC?

01:16:41.440 Yeah. Do you remember the Superman movie? Yeah. Okay. So do you remember

01:16:48.640 they had General Zod? Do you remember General Zod?

01:16:52.880 That was Superman two. Okay. No, I don't know if I saw that.

01:16:57.520 All right. Well, on the planet Krypton where Superman used to live, I'm doing this. We're

01:17:01.840 totally going to this level where Superman used to live. They had, when they had corrupt officials,

01:17:07.120 they used to put them in a place called the Phantom Zone. And the Phantom Zone was in a crazy two

01:17:12.720 dimensional place where you would keep all the corrupt people screaming and wailing where they

01:17:18.400 could, they could perceive the, the, it was a pocket dimension. So it was, they called it a pocket

01:17:24.080 dimension and, uh, they were screaming and wailing and they could see actual reality, but they couldn't

01:17:32.960 interact with it. They couldn't actually interact with it. And I started thinking about what should

01:17:38.640 we do with our corrupt officials someday. And then I realized these guys like Clapper and Brennan

01:17:45.120 and struck and McCabe and all of them. And I said, wait a minute, they're all in MSNBC.

01:17:50.720 And then I thought it occurred to me, what if MSNBC is like our Phantom Zone?

01:17:57.120 It's, it's a two dimensional pocket universe where they're all trapped inside of it,

01:18:02.080 where they can see what we're doing, but they can't actually interact with real,

01:18:06.080 with the real world. And they're just stuck in there. And the minute that I start thinking

01:18:10.400 of MSNBC is basically the Phantom Zone, it made me feel a little bit better about it.

01:18:17.200 Well, there's definitely an operation underway to, um,

01:18:22.000 affect the American people through that network in a particular way.

01:18:25.920 And that's the problem, right? Is that not everybody sees it that way. So the more

01:18:30.000 chances I get to explain to people that that's just the Phantom Zone. And that's where we stick

01:18:34.160 all the crazy people and the corrupt people and all the liars. So we stick them there. And you 1.00

01:18:38.960 realize you're looking at the Phantom Zone, that's basically a prison for all those people like that.

01:18:43.040 So when you're stuck on there, then you realize why someone's on there say, Oh, wait a minute,

01:18:48.320 somebody got in trouble. Somebody did something wrong. That's why they're on the Phantom Zone.

01:18:51.520 Right. And so, so Rachel Maddow, here's somebody who used to be kind of,

01:18:56.080 she used to be kind of fair. You go back to Rachel Maddow like 10 years ago and you could

01:19:00.000 see videos of her and Tucker Carlson talking and having a good time and laughing it up.

01:19:05.040 And then she completely converted. She threw away her integrity. She threw away her, her sense of,

01:19:11.760 of honesty. She threw away all of her honesty. And instead she replaced it with these crazy,

01:19:17.280 she's chasing fandoms. These people, they think they're in some kind of like a Tom Clancy novel,

01:19:22.080 fighting, uh, you know, secret Russians and foreign everything when it's like,

01:19:26.480 no, you want to find the ones that are actually taking money. Right. It's right here in front of

01:19:30.640 you. It's right here. It's right here. Rachel Maddow. Rachel, do you want this? Do you want a copy?

01:19:35.040 It? I will give you a copy of this, Rachel. Oh, I got to show that up.

01:19:40.640 Yeah. I would be more than happy. I'd be more than happy. They're definitely don't write their own copy.

01:19:48.640 Do they? No, no, they don't. I don't know what they write. I don't know what they write. You know,

01:19:55.120 they go up every night and they say the most outlandish things and they continue on with it.

01:20:00.960 They just continue on. They, they, you listen to some of it and they tell you, they never say,

01:20:05.280 they never say even when caught, Hey, we were, we made a mistake and we'd like to correct that

01:20:11.920 or apologize for it. Cause we know it caused damage to people. They never do that. So there

01:20:17.600 is no integrity whatsoever. And that Lawrence, what's his name? Oh my God. Oh, Lawrence, uh, O'Donnell.

01:20:27.120 Yeah. Yeah. Hey, O'Donnell, Chris Hayes over there. These guys, they're good because they become,

01:20:33.680 they become corporate chills. They're just, they've become corporate chills, right? They have no interest

01:20:38.640 in informing the American people of what's going on. They become corporate shills. And their role

01:20:44.880 is to create and perpetuate one of those false realities against the American people that you

01:20:51.680 get sucked up into that. And you can get sucked up into the phantom zone yourself. And you do not want

01:20:55.920 to be in the phantom zone, right? Because that is a false reality. It is completely untrue. You,

01:21:01.840 excuse me, go into the regular world. You go out right now, right? And this is something I say too,

01:21:07.440 is that you go online or you watch one of these, these news networks. That's so angry all the time.

01:21:13.360 She's so mad. She's so angry. So upset, right? I'm not upset. I'm a happy guy. I've got, I've got a

01:21:18.480 family. I've got life. I'm alive. You know? Yeah. These people, they're so upset. They're so mad.

01:21:24.880 And they're trying to make you angry. You go out and you go out and, and you don't see people

01:21:30.560 that reacting that way in life. This is still the United States for all the problems, 0.62

01:21:35.040 for all the problems, which, you know, we just outlined, this is still the greatest country in

01:21:39.680 the world. And we have the ability to live here. And how awesome is that? Right. And so I think

01:21:44.800 it's great when I go out to see people are, uh, kind of insulating themselves from it. They know it's

01:21:53.280 false, but they don't have the time to do like I do. And like you do search things all day long on

01:22:01.200 the internet for, for truth, to figure out and talk to people who are informed and, you know,

01:22:07.040 get the story, but I know they get stopped. Do you get recognized a lot? Do you get recognized

01:22:12.400 a lot when you go out? Well, this is, uh, you know, not a lot of people on this island. They

01:22:18.560 all have seen me a hundred times. So nobody's all that impressed. They're all like, there she is.

01:22:26.320 There's the old lady. Uh, but everyone is so sweet here and very nice. It's a,

01:22:32.720 it's a good community to live in, but, uh, you know, people are future. That's the future is we've

01:22:38.640 gotta, we've gotta start. We're gonna, we're gonna go back to communities.

01:22:43.200 Now we're gonna, we're gonna go back. People are building, rebuilding communities and it's gonna

01:22:48.000 be different types of communities. But what I see, I think we're gonna turn away. I think we're

01:22:52.000 gonna turn away from this whole, like the left is attacking the right and the right is attacking

01:22:57.520 the left. Cause it doesn't get anywhere, right? It doesn't get anywhere where it does get to is

01:23:00.960 just, it's, it's, it's, it's nihilism and it's anger, right? Nobody wants that. So we're gonna go back

01:23:05.440 to communities, right? We're gonna get to know our neighbors again. And, and you're gonna see community

01:23:11.680 gardens and we're gonna, you know, I think we're going to be happier. We're going to be closer.

01:23:16.480 We're going to watch out for each other's kids. We're going to have to. And, uh, you know, I feel

01:23:21.040 evidence of that and I like it. You're going to start seeing people and I I've started to see this

01:23:27.120 myself, but you're going to start seeing people, um, living in communities of choice. And what do I

01:23:33.840 mean by community of choice? A community of choice is people that aren't living together because of like,

01:23:39.920 like a job or a certain, you know, a certain economic driver that they're looking for,

01:23:46.160 but they're going to look, they're going to look to find like-minded people. Uh, maybe it's people

01:23:51.280 of the same religion, maybe people that, um, you know, that they know from, from, from other things.

01:23:57.120 And then you're going to see families that are going to check out of the corruption and they're

01:24:02.160 going to check out of the, the back and forth and they're going to build communities of choice.

01:24:09.440 And in those communities, you're starting to see this already in, in, in the, you know,

01:24:13.040 sort of. Well, Hawaii is very much like that. Hawaii is very much like that because, you know,

01:24:19.120 it's a farm based. And, uh, so we have a lot of interconnectivity between our neighbors and us,

01:24:27.120 you know, because we're growing the same things, you know, we're cooking the same things. We're, we're,

01:24:33.040 uh, you know, most of Texas is like that. A lot of, a lot of, a lot of Texas is like that too.

01:24:38.240 So I think that's a good thing. Any step away from the faults, you know, I call it, you know,

01:24:47.040 tower of Babel culture. You gotta get out of the cities. If you can, if you can get out of the city,

01:24:55.360 if you get your family out of the city, just do it, just get out, just, just go cities are done.

01:25:00.400 They're totally done. I think you're right. It's, they serve their purpose,

01:25:05.120 but we're at a point now in our, you know, society and our civilization and our development

01:25:10.240 where cities are no longer going to be, uh, the same, the, the cost benefit ratio,

01:25:17.200 it's not there anymore. The cost of living in a city versus the benefit of living. See,

01:25:20.880 it's completely, it's completely lopsided. So this, that seesaw has so many cities

01:25:26.400 just up full of suffering people of, uh, you know, full of lack and suffering. And it's just

01:25:32.720 terrible to see that in the United States. We have to do something about it. Well, I, I really

01:25:37.600 appreciate you being here today. And do you want to end on something really shocking or, or big, uh,

01:25:45.440 big, uh, inquirers type stuff about the, uh, Biden soiree? You got anything or not?

01:25:55.200 See, I'm trying to think of something that hasn't, hasn't really come out yet.

01:25:57.520 So we just end with a prayer of goodwill towards people who are suffering and hope they come forward

01:26:02.960 to help us put this arrow behind us. I'd like, I'd like to end that, that we should, we should,

01:26:07.840 we should pray for the people who are, so when I, when I, that's the main thing for me is when I look at this,

01:26:15.600 laptop, this hard drive and these messages, I see, I see a, a person who is hurting a soul who is

01:26:21.920 hurting a family who is hurting and they have that pain. And we know there's been a lot of trauma

01:26:30.240 in that family. There is, um, multiple traumas and you, you look at that and, and by the way, like

01:26:39.760 understandable, right? Understandable that there'd be that level of pain with what they've gone through.

01:26:44.640 But there are healthy ways to deal with that. There are healthier ways and there is a path.

01:26:51.840 You gotta walk, you have to walk away from certain things.

01:26:55.040 But I, I just pray for, I pray for the Bidens.

01:26:59.920 Funny enough.

01:27:01.040 Like that.

01:27:01.600 Nobody, nobody. I don't, I don't think you'd ever hear, oh, Jack Posobiec. He's a Trump. No, I, I pray

01:27:06.800 for the Biden family as, as people, as humans, as my fellow Americans. It's just, I pray for them. Of

01:27:13.680 course I pray for them. Every single one of them. I pray for anybody who's, uh, caught or compromised

01:27:20.000 or, or, or, uh, owned in any kind of slavery that they, uh, can get free and come back to the human

01:27:29.520 family freely. Right?

01:27:34.080 That's beautiful. That's beautiful. Amen. Isn't that perfect? Isn't that perfect? We went,

01:27:39.440 we talked to all the negative and now we end on a positive. I love it.

01:27:43.600 I love that you were my guest today. It was wonderful to speak with you and, uh,

01:27:48.320 good luck with your new baby and good luck with your good job on a wonderful network and your

01:27:56.000 pursuit of, uh, fact and truth to keep the American people informed. A great job.

01:28:02.560 It's an absolute honor. The next time, uh, the next time we're out there in Hawaii,

01:28:06.400 we'll have to call you and give you a ring. Come and see my net trees.

01:28:10.000 Oh, I want to see them. I'll make you do work. 0.91

01:28:18.960 Thank you, Jack. Hey, by the way, I had a quick question. Did, uh, Joe Rogan ever respond to you

01:28:23.120 saying you'd bring the, uh, hard drive on? He never did. He never did. He never did.

01:28:27.520 All right. I don't blame him. I'll take the hard drive copy though. Jack,

01:28:31.280 if you want to send it to me, I could take a look for you. Hell yeah. I watched that.

01:28:34.960 I watched some of that. We are working on, uh, potentially finding a way to, um, to upload a lot

01:28:45.280 of it. We're working on our way to upload a lot of it. And there's a lot of personal stuff in here,

01:28:48.560 but, uh, we want, we want to get the, the newsworthy documents and that's all.

01:28:52.800 Yeah. Get the dirty deals that affect the American worker. 1.00

01:28:56.240 Definitely. And that's what, that's, what's important is corruption. That's what's important.

01:29:00.560 Definitely.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - August 04, 2023

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