Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - BONUS EPISODE： TWITTER SPACE with Alex Jones, Roger Stone, and General Flynn

00:00:00.280 Hello, everybody. I can hear somebody breathing there.

00:00:03.140 Hey, what's up, Alex? What's up, Roger?

00:00:05.580 Excellent.

00:00:06.200 This is amazing. Great to be here. This is the future, guys.

00:00:08.480 I see the mighty MTG is there, the great General Flynn, all these great people.

00:00:14.080 Oh, do we have General Flynn?

00:00:15.680 I think he probably popped in for a minute and disappeared.

00:00:18.660 He's going in and out. He does. He's on covert ops tonight, I guess.

00:00:22.560 Yeah.

00:00:23.500 He's rocking in. Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard.

00:00:25.760 A special edition, whatever you want to call it, Iowa Eve Town Hall.

00:00:30.360 We're calling this the Great Suppression.

00:00:32.680 I want to thank Real America's Voice for hosting this for us.

00:00:36.140 I know they are putting it together and they're going to try to get some people on in terms of that.

00:00:42.660 But before we go in, you know, I know there's a lot going on.

00:00:46.120 We have a lot to talk about, the state of our nation, the state of our world, because it's big.

00:00:50.200 And tonight is not just the night before the Iowa caucuses, when the election of 2024, the front lines of globalism in the blizzard-covered, blizzard-strewn, snow-strewn streets and alleyways and byways of the Iowa caucuses tomorrow.

00:01:08.940 That's the front line against globalism.

00:01:11.240 But Davos is actually kicking off tomorrow, the World Economic Forum's latest summit.

00:01:16.120 So before we got into all of those topics and issues of the people trying to control our minds and control our brains, I wanted to bring up Roger Stone here because the Iowa caucuses are something that Roger has been covering every single cycle going back, I think, all the way to the first election, if I remember that correct.

00:01:33.960 Is that correct, Roger? You were covering them in George Washington's election?

00:01:37.280 Yeah, as you know, I was the head of youth for George Washington.

00:01:40.880 Yes, yes, precisely.

00:01:41.960 And so I was hoping that, given your expertise, you could give us sort of the, you know, a handicap on tomorrow's Iowa caucus, as you see it right now.

00:01:53.460 Thank you, Jack.

00:01:54.500 First of all, I'm very grateful to be here.

00:01:56.900 And frankly, I'm grateful to Elon Musk for letting me back on what was Twitter is now X.

00:02:03.880 In case you're wondering, I'm still banned for life at Facebook.

00:02:07.400 I'm still banned for life at Instagram.

00:02:09.320 I'm still banned for life at YouTube.

00:02:13.300 It's curious.

00:02:14.820 I can't quite understand.

00:02:15.920 They never actually tell you why you're banned.

00:02:18.700 But until you lose your free speech rights, you really don't realize how much you should cherish them.

00:02:25.220 So I'm happy to be back.

00:02:27.740 I do want to say at the top, there is a Roger Stone on Facebook.

00:02:31.100 He's been asking people for money.

00:02:32.900 He's selling crypto.

00:02:34.780 He's offering people jobs.

00:02:36.260 Folks, that is not me.

00:02:37.820 Don't fall for that.

00:02:39.420 I've complained multiple times.

00:02:41.500 Unfortunately, nobody there seems to want to do anything about it.

00:02:45.260 I'm glad to be here with my good friend Alex Jones.

00:02:48.680 Excited to see Marjorie Taylor Greene in the queue.

00:02:52.440 Let me speak, Jack, to your questions because we are on the cusp of something extraordinarily historic.

00:02:58.260 The last president who served a term as president, was cheated out of re-election and came back to win, was Grover Cleveland, a New Yorker, the last of the great conservative Democrats.

00:03:13.120 And I think we are on the cusp of seeing this same thing again.

00:03:19.000 I'm a believer in polling, although sophisticated polling in a caucus or primary situation is always more volatile.

00:03:29.380 And one needs to be a little more cautious with it.

00:03:33.140 But only in those instances where things are close or very tight.

00:03:37.880 That is certainly not the case here.

00:03:40.840 As a veteran of 13 national Republican presidential campaigns, there are certain telltale things you look for.

00:03:49.920 The most important measure in Iowa is, has any candidate reached 50 percent?

00:03:55.060 Just in the last couple of days in the Des Moines Register poll, in the Interactive poll, Donald Trump has crested and actually gotten 53, 55 in a different measure.

00:04:10.120 So that is an extraordinarily good sign for the Trump campaign.

00:04:16.580 But I also think that Trump has avoided making a mistake that one of my previous bosses, Ronald Reagan, made in 1980.

00:04:28.000 I was on with Alex Jones earlier this evening, just a little while ago.

00:04:33.140 And there was a time in which Reagan was leading in the polls in Iowa by 20 points, took it for granted, did not visit the state in the closing days of that race.

00:04:46.580 George H.W. Bush, he of the New World Order, visited all 99 counties, built an extraordinary voter ID and turnout operation, and pulled off an upset victory.

00:05:02.360 Now, because Reagan was an extraordinary candidate, and because Trump, pardon me, because Bush wasn't really ready for the scrutiny,

00:05:11.740 Reagan snapped back to win New Hampshire, then ran the tables on the rest of the primaries, was elected president over Jimmy Carter, became one of our greatest presidents.

00:05:22.440 Trump has not made this mistake.

00:05:24.260 He's taken nothing for granted.

00:05:27.360 He was there last week for a series of extraordinarily effective and large events.

00:05:33.520 He flew back in last night in really viciously cold weather to do, I think, three events today.

00:05:42.480 He's going to continue working for every last vote.

00:05:46.560 So where's the rest of this race?

00:05:50.280 Everybody's going to focus on who comes in second.

00:05:52.800 But let's stress, whoever is second will be a distant second.

00:05:56.820 Nobody is going to press Donald Trump here.

00:05:59.200 He's going to win a historic victory.

00:06:01.460 No Republican has ever won the caucuses by more than 12.

00:06:05.700 I confidently believe he will easily exceed that.

00:06:10.560 And to his credit, his campaign under the very able leadership of Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita and James Blair,

00:06:21.680 three of the very best political operatives, strategists, mechanics, experts that I know,

00:06:29.720 they have built an extraordinarily effective voter identification and turnout operation, second to none.

00:06:39.020 Now, Governor DeSantis spent a lot of money, but you can't turn out votes you don't have.

00:06:44.520 If I'm confident at this point, the Trump campaign has positively identified almost 100,000 Iowa voters in a contest in which we may get 150,000 people turn out.

00:07:00.180 Will the numbers overall be depressed because of the frigid temperatures?

00:07:05.200 This is where the intensity of Trump's support is absolutely key.

00:07:13.160 If you examine the intensity, nine out of 10 Trump voters now say that there's no possibility that they would not vote for Trump.

00:07:22.500 And eight out of 10 say there's no possibility that they won't show up, regardless of any obstacle.

00:07:31.420 Reagan never had this kind of intensity.

00:07:33.680 Those who are for Trump are extraordinarily loyal.

00:07:36.840 So it really shifts now to the battle for second, because that's going to define the race going into New Hampshire.

00:07:44.200 There's only eight days between the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary.

00:07:49.600 And it is very clear that DeSantis has invested heavily, at least in terms of spending money, on trying to build some structure.

00:07:58.560 But I don't think at this juncture, if he turned out every voter he has positively identified as being for him,

00:08:07.140 that does not necessarily guarantee him a second place finish.

00:08:13.080 Nikki Haley, who is Dick Cheney in heels, the candidate of the Uniparty, the candidate of the neocons,

00:08:21.880 the candidate of the Republican establishment, is relying solely on extraordinarily heavy media buys, broadcast television, cable television, digital advertising, radio, mailings, text messages at saturation levels.

00:08:41.520 And much of this money, if you track it, is coming from liberal democratic sources.

00:08:49.320 But she is going to try to buy a second place finish.

00:08:54.380 The polls do indicate that the mainstream media buildup is working.

00:08:59.920 And if you believe the polls, she would be a couple points ahead of DeSantis.

00:09:06.980 Does all that money DeSantis spent paying off evangelicals, paying off state legislators, Laura Loomer has documented much of this,

00:09:18.780 will that pay off in terms of the final result?

00:09:22.700 Or does Nikki Haley surge based on free media coverage to a second place finish?

00:09:30.000 If so, and I predicted this again on the Alex Jones show tonight, look for the following headline.

00:09:36.960 Haley upsets DeSantis in Iowa victory.

00:09:41.760 Small subhead.

00:09:43.480 Trump comes in first as expected.

00:09:46.260 So watch the media try to downplay and try to minimize what is really a smashing victory by Trump.

00:09:54.720 And try to elevate Nikki Haley saying she's quote unquote a winner because she exceeded expectations to beat Governor DeSantis.

00:10:05.100 Look, the DeSantis campaign is on life support.

00:10:09.120 He is withdrawn from New Hampshire.

00:10:11.900 He is withdrawn from Nevada.

00:10:13.740 He's withdrawn from South Carolina.

00:10:15.760 Nevada having, pardon me, pissed away millions of dollars in those states earlier, as well as a number of other states that his campaign will never actually compete in.

00:10:26.360 And this is do or die for him.

00:10:28.300 If he is not in second place, albeit a distant second place, his best bet would be to drop out and endorse Donald Trump.

00:10:37.920 Will he do that?

00:10:38.820 I'm not privy to what Casey decides they're going to do, but I think he's by and large finished in this campaign.

00:10:48.200 Now, what will happen is to wrap this up.

00:10:51.420 If Nikki Haley is successful in coming in a distant second, the media will try to make that a quote unquote win.

00:11:00.200 New Hampshire is a state in which independents are allowed to vote in the Republican primary.

00:11:06.300 A governor, Chris Sununu, who is a duplicitous backstabber, much like his father, Governor John Sununu, who lied to me when I was working for Jack Kemp and also lied to Senator Bob Dole for, I guess, 11 months, told us he wasn't committed to George Bush.

00:11:23.400 Then he was kind of duplicity runs in this family.

00:11:27.380 He is working very hard to pull independents into the Republican primary for an upset.

00:11:33.940 I think that's highly unlikely, but that is the establishment's best chance to overtake Trump.

00:11:40.880 I think it will fail, but at least they are naked in their attempt.

00:11:47.540 So that's kind of the layup.

00:11:49.300 I think to finish this off, Vivek Ramaswamy, you know, these late developments are things that I'm following, but it appears to me that he, as bright as he is at the last minute here, stumbled badly in his messaging.

00:12:07.040 One thing you never want to do, having known him for 45 years, is anger Donald Trump.

00:12:12.800 He's a very tough customer.

00:12:15.460 And I think he's made it very clear.

00:12:17.460 If you are America first, if you are a MAGA Republican, the time is now.

00:12:24.060 Why would you vote?

00:12:25.360 Why would you go listen to a Beatles tribute band when you can listen to the Beatles?

00:12:29.280 We have the founder of the America first movement in Donald Trump.

00:12:35.760 Ramaswamy may be a nice fellow.

00:12:37.480 I don't know.

00:12:38.300 But we have our champion.

00:12:41.020 And if you are an America first voter right now and the unit party is pressing in with Nikki Haley, then every vote counts.

00:12:50.180 It is essential for Trump to win both Iowa and New Hampshire by the largest possible margin.

00:12:56.760 All right, Jack, I'm going to leave it there.

00:12:57.900 And Roger and Jack, I both agree with you.

00:13:02.080 I see General Flynn just got on.

00:13:04.320 So I'd like to, if I can, please go next.

00:13:06.760 I have big news so that both Jack Posobo, who's got great military background, but, of course, the great gravitas of General Flynn, can hear this.

00:13:14.300 I'm sure you guys always are aware of anything I'm aware of.

00:13:17.400 You're going to be aware of this.

00:13:18.640 But I have massive new developments.

00:13:25.060 Alex, can you hear me?

00:13:26.220 Or Jack, can you hear me?

00:13:27.900 General, we've got you on, sir.

00:13:29.560 We've got you on just fine.

00:13:31.200 Roger was just kind of wrapping up.

00:13:32.900 He thinks Trump's going to come in big tomorrow.

00:13:36.040 Then probably Haley.

00:13:38.220 And DeSantis looks about third.

00:13:40.440 Vivek, we're not sure what's going on with there.

00:13:42.420 But Alex said he had some breaking news that he wanted to get out.

00:13:46.020 If you're ready to listen to that.

00:13:47.840 Yeah, please.

00:13:48.500 I'd much rather hear Alex.

00:13:50.040 Alex, he's such an unbelievable researcher.

00:13:52.920 All right.

00:13:53.620 Go ahead.

00:13:55.040 Well, and far be it for me to try to get to stop Alex Jones from talking, you know.

00:13:59.180 No, no.

00:14:00.400 Listen, I'm happy to wait and hear what General Flynn has to say.

00:14:03.340 And what a great, you know, eight, nine-minute analysis of Roger Stone dead on.

00:14:07.900 This just broke this afternoon, and it's the new talking point, and it's everywhere.

00:14:13.780 So it's some really good news, but it's also some really bad news.

00:14:17.680 We'll take a few minutes to get into, and then I'll give you my take.

00:14:20.480 And I want to get General Flynn's take and Jack's take and also, obviously, Roger's take

00:14:24.360 and then all the great hosts and journalists that are tuned in right now as this thing explodes.

00:14:29.560 Ladies and gentlemen, they, and I don't want us to think Trump's already won.

00:14:36.020 I don't want us to think we don't have to campaign hard or push hard, but the deep state,

00:14:41.180 just as they did in 2016 when Trump was the nominee, and just as they did before the 2000 election,

00:14:47.700 led by Senator Blumenthal and the Clintons, I've got it all right here,

00:14:51.540 and Obama and George Soros, I've got Newsweek, I've got NBC, I've got CBS, I've got everything.

00:14:57.960 This is just breaking.

00:15:00.320 Legal experts gear up for feared military takeover by Donald Trump.

00:15:04.920 Another one, and they're bringing up Flynn, by the way.

00:15:08.260 NBC, fears grow that Trump will use the military in dictatorial ways if he returns to the White House.

00:15:14.940 So here's the Infowars version of it that's obviously the real boil down.

00:15:19.120 Wait, wait, wait, wait, and Alex, in addition to that, I would just throw another out to NBC News today,

00:15:24.500 which this was, I saw all over Twitter, a series of non-governmental organizations is joining together

00:15:33.400 to prevent Trump from taking control of the military should he win.

00:15:39.120 I know that's exactly the story that you've been tracking.

00:15:41.840 Okay.

00:15:41.900 Absolutely.

00:15:43.840 So I just wanted to up front get this out here because think of this,

00:15:47.600 and I've spent hours reading this, their actual document they put out.

00:15:52.120 Yes.

00:15:52.840 A group of NGOs funded by the Clinton Initiative, Soros, and the Obama Foundations,

00:16:01.140 because it took me an hour to track it back to who's funding it,

00:16:03.800 led by Senator Blumenthal of Connecticut, who we know as quarterback,

00:16:07.840 so much of this, are now flipping the script and saying,

00:16:11.700 okay, looks like Trump's going to win, and I'm not putting the cart before the horse.

00:16:16.000 They are already now panicking, setting up contingency programs,

00:16:19.980 knowing he's going to probably win Iowa by historic 50%, as Roger said on my show.

00:16:25.780 No one's ever won by more than 12 points.

00:16:27.920 So this shows landslide proportions, total panic.

00:16:32.160 And when you read this battle plan, they say, okay, looks like Trump's going to win

00:16:38.540 when Black Lives Matter burns down the country, and he declares the Insurrection Act,

00:16:45.240 which George Herbert Walker Bush did in 1992 for the L.A. riots,

00:16:50.660 which I think is something you should have done.

00:16:52.400 I don't agree with much of what he said.

00:16:54.100 He said, we're going to basically remove him from office,

00:16:57.400 and they're drafting a law with Senator Blumenthal and other Democrats

00:17:02.920 that they're going to announce next week to try to preemptively remove the power of the president.

00:17:09.500 I'm not General Flynn, an expert on this, or Jack Posobiec, an expert,

00:17:12.800 but I do know the law, and we elect the president, and he's a representation of us,

00:17:19.520 and if there's burning buildings and things burning down in a communist uprising,

00:17:24.940 much worse than we saw in 2000, then it is the power of the president to call up the National Guard.

00:17:30.920 So they're trying to remove the power of the president to quell things,

00:17:37.580 and they want to be able to go to a civil war and then neuter the president up front,

00:17:42.460 saying he can't call out the military.

00:17:45.380 So continuing here, they actually say in the NBC News article,

00:17:49.640 William Cohen, the former Secretary of Defense, says that Trump wants to be a dictator.

00:17:55.580 Quote, it's clear and present danger to our democracy,

00:17:59.340 and they basically capitulate and believe he's going to win

00:18:03.700 and go on to say that there are any array of horrors that could result from Donald Trump's

00:18:09.420 unrestricted use of Insurrection Act, Senator Blumenthal said,

00:18:13.300 and they go on to say that they want Congress to remove the power of the executive,

00:18:20.060 so basically a pre-impeachment, or abort him before he even gets elected.

00:18:26.780 They say the Democrat lawmakers know to be adversarial to Trump

00:18:30.300 and are working on a parallel track with these NGOs.

00:18:35.880 They go on to say they know Trump wants to be a dictator with no proof,

00:18:39.260 and while they've done all the surveillance and censorship and persecution and indicted him,

00:18:46.560 so everything they've done, they're now trying to project and invert onto President Trump,

00:18:53.040 which to me the big takeaway is they're desperate, they know they're losing,

00:18:57.180 and so now they're already, instead of thinking about assassinating him, God forbid,

00:19:01.080 or something else, to me this is very positive news, even though it's negative at one level,

00:19:07.840 it's positive that they're already putting their full energies,

00:19:10.920 the same crew that said he was a Russian agent, the same crew that went after General Flynn,

00:19:15.120 the same crew that tried to neuter him before he got in office, when he was President-elect,

00:19:18.800 is now admitting basically defeat and putting out the panic alarm that they're going to then have a communist-style uprising

00:19:27.540 and perpetual endless civil war, and that then if the executive branch does its duty

00:19:33.840 and quells the racial uprising, they admit the documents they're planning,

00:19:38.520 which they've been pre-programming, that he is then a traitor.

00:19:41.060 Someone asked the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency,

00:19:43.600 the former top national security advisor, if you don't have a better person,

00:19:46.720 he can cover something else if he'd like to do it later, but please, General Flynn, respond,

00:19:50.360 and also, Jack Posobiec, I will now mute my mic.

00:19:54.020 Yeah, a couple of things.

00:19:55.900 First, I listened a little bit to Roger's analysis, and it doesn't get any better than that.

00:20:01.880 I think the big picture is by 6th March, which is a Wednesday, the primaries will be all but over,

00:20:11.360 Trump will be the candidate for the Republican Party going forward.

00:20:15.800 So we have a few weeks left.

00:20:17.720 I think all these candidates, after this historic victory by Trump here this week,

00:20:23.800 they all need to just back out and get behind him because, really, what I've been saying all along,

00:20:29.080 and I've been saying it for a while, that we really have a country to save,

00:20:32.560 and the only guy that's capable of doing that right now in sort of the near term is Donald J. Trump.

00:20:38.500 So I appreciate Roger's analysis, and he's spot on, and I do believe that this is going to be a historic victory,

00:20:44.980 and I think over the next couple of weeks, we're going to see even more of that.

00:20:49.060 The egos of people like Haley and DeSantis and some of the people that are behind them

00:20:54.480 are going to continue to get in the way.

00:20:57.580 I think Ramaswamy did himself a big disfavor here, disservice here in the last 24, 48 hours with some of his comments,

00:21:07.640 and I'll leave it at that.

00:21:08.880 Now, with what we're seeing, this is really, to me, and I said this over the last couple of days

00:21:15.760 on a couple of different shows that I was on, what we've seen in the last probably two or three weeks

00:21:22.660 is we've seen more and heard more from Eric Holder, Barack Obama, and Michelle Obama

00:21:27.920 than we've heard in the last three years.

00:21:30.940 So they've been out because they know that their guy is not doing the service that they need to have done,

00:21:39.920 and I'm talking about Biden now, and that you're going to start to see all kinds of manipulations

00:21:45.580 inside of the White House to figure out ways to get him out of the way,

00:21:50.480 and they're going to get him out of the way, believe me.

00:21:52.160 There's no way in the world that they're going to allow Joe Biden to go to a convention this summer.

00:21:57.320 So back to this article that came out, and this is not something that's been going on for a little while

00:22:05.660 or just in one article.

00:22:07.280 These people have been contemplating this, and there's people like Mary McCord who are behind this.

00:22:13.080 If you go and look at who Mary McCord is and who her husband is,

00:22:16.160 her husband is an individual who works directly for John Roberts at the U.S. Supreme Court.

00:22:21.120 I mean, these are people that are directly behind this,

00:22:23.380 and they're inside of different parts of our government.

00:22:27.320 And really, to me, what this represents is this represents a form of subversion.

00:22:32.000 It's subversion by government officials who are in office right now.

00:22:38.380 It's also subversion by former government officials.

00:22:42.840 And I don't use that word loosely when I use the word subversion.

00:22:47.460 Subverting the election process, the political process,

00:22:51.780 the constitutional process of our country to subvert what they know is anything but a hands-down type victory

00:23:03.160 that they're already perceiving that Donald Trump is going to win in November of 2024.

00:23:10.280 And I keep saying, I always will caveat this, is that that's if we have an election,

00:23:14.840 because the fact that these people are thinking like this and acting like this,

00:23:19.300 they are going to also come up with other scenarios and other plays, if you will,

00:23:23.580 to consider how that we can get to some other place that this country will be in.

00:23:30.960 And I don't mean by a duly elected president.

00:23:33.100 I mean something totally different.

00:23:34.500 I don't know what that is quite yet.

00:23:37.540 I have played out some scenarios.

00:23:39.800 And I actually was on Alex's show not too long ago, and I talked a little bit about this.

00:23:45.340 But so this is clearly subversion by a group of people, some that are in government.

00:23:50.740 Most are out.

00:23:52.500 But they are people that have served in very, very significant positions,

00:23:56.740 national intelligence level, certainly Department of Defense and state.

00:24:02.220 And and clearly within the Justice Department.

00:24:05.420 So these are not people that are that are just, you know, Johnny come lately.

00:24:09.340 These are people that are very serious, very knowledgeable, and they're very well connected to

00:24:14.460 the current power holders, the those that hold the levers of power of our government right now.

00:24:20.840 So this is a very serious people need to pay very close attention to this article.

00:24:24.560 I would also recommend going back to I think it was the Atlantic article,

00:24:28.600 if I'm not mistaken, back in early part of 2021 that laid out the the the theft of our 2020 election,

00:24:35.560 where they were where they were bragging about it.

00:24:37.840 And and I, you know, forgive me for forgetting the name of the the article.

00:24:41.480 But I but people will remember February or March time frame when that general general.

00:24:46.300 There was also a Time magazine where they bragged.

00:24:49.040 Yeah, that's what it was.

00:24:49.860 Time.

00:24:50.220 Thank you, Alex.

00:24:50.920 It was Time magazine.

00:24:52.280 Yeah.

00:24:52.480 The headline was the headline was this is how we did it.

00:24:55.340 And it talks about all the former and current intelligence agencies, the media and the

00:24:59.340 neocons, how they stole the election, how they suppress the people.

00:25:03.260 Yeah.

00:25:03.480 So if if that article was this is how this is how we did it, this this latest article is,

00:25:10.200 you know, the theme is this is how we're going to do it.

00:25:13.120 OK.

00:25:13.680 And I and I mean that these are these are not people that play by any kind of fair rules at

00:25:21.640 all.

00:25:21.920 They play by their rules and we should not underestimate their ability to be able to pull

00:25:26.920 something like this off the undermining of our military and our and they I call it the

00:25:33.400 reculturalization or the resocialization of our military leadership.

00:25:37.860 And I do think that we're going to see another purge of of our military here in the next probably

00:25:43.900 three to six months.

00:25:45.420 I believe we're going to see some other significant changes now that the new chairman is is in his

00:25:52.600 seat and he's and he's fully in his seat.

00:25:55.400 And we see the weakness of the of the secretary of defense.

00:25:58.820 God knows if he's even, you know, able to do anything at this stage.

00:26:02.780 But they the leadership in the Department of Defense will make changes here in the coming

00:26:08.280 months to secure a better foothold, a better stance, if you will, for the kinds of things

00:26:14.260 that these people are contemplating.

00:26:15.880 Do not underestimate this enemy.

00:26:18.340 And I call them that very precisely because it is an they are adversaries of our way of life.

00:26:23.960 They are adversaries of our constitutional duties and responsibilities.

00:26:26.900 And these are many people are are anti-American.

00:26:30.940 They're they're they're very they're part of the Democratic Socialist Party of America or worse,

00:26:35.820 the Communist Party of America.

00:26:37.320 And they are inside of our government.

00:26:39.580 They're inside of our institutions.

00:26:41.060 And they and they they mean exactly what it is that they say.

00:26:44.960 And I'll finish with with going back to what I said at the beginning.

00:26:48.440 This is a form of subversion and subverting the the the powers that are that are given to a

00:26:55.220 president of the United States, a duly elected president of the United States by the Constitution,

00:27:00.000 powers that the Constitution given the executive leader of our country, just as they did where

00:27:05.920 they where they undermined a duly elected, you know, a duly selected candidate in President

00:27:11.940 Trump after the November 2016 election.

00:27:14.740 And then they undermined him when he was the president of the United States.

00:27:17.860 And they did that under the guise of of Barack Obama.

00:27:21.480 And I think that there's a reason why Barack Obama has stayed in Washington, D.C.

00:27:25.700 And like I said, Barack and Eric, his buddy, his wingman, Eric and and his wife, Michelle,

00:27:32.440 have been out for the last couple of weeks speaking out more than I've heard them in the last three

00:27:37.520 years.

00:27:37.980 And that's right.

00:27:38.400 They don't surface when you see that happen.

00:27:40.920 You know that they are they are deathly afraid of losing power.

00:27:44.560 And I'll stop there and go back to you.

00:27:46.280 Well, General, I just have one quick question.

00:27:48.160 And then I'm going to sit back and let Jack and obviously Roger respond.

00:27:51.560 But I think your term is historic and legal and with your military background dead on.

00:27:57.400 But subversion against the country is treason.

00:28:00.540 It is a coup.

00:28:02.340 And what you're talking about is stay behind networks that Obama put in when Trump won the

00:28:07.100 election with the Countering Foreign Disinformation Propaganda Act.

00:28:11.100 And so when I say this is positive, it shows they now believe they're going to lose.

00:28:15.360 They're scared to kill Trump.

00:28:16.740 It'll make them even bigger, you know, as an icon.

00:28:19.400 So I believe that I'm not saying we've already won, folks, but they're already wargaming

00:28:24.080 their plan B and moving to that very quickly.

00:28:27.500 Very influential groups.

00:28:28.600 So can you speak to what you know, when you talk about the stay behind networks, meaning

00:28:33.300 they know Trump's about to get back in.

00:28:35.100 And so they want to do a replay, but even worse, of 2016, where they have all their operatives

00:28:40.220 working against him in the government and at the top of the Pentagon.

00:28:43.440 Can you speak to what stay behind networks mean?

00:28:45.740 Kind of an Operation Gladio example, but here in the U.S.

00:28:48.800 And then how you think we counter those?

00:28:50.280 Yeah.

00:28:51.280 And so what they did in 2016 and 2017 time frame, they left a whole bunch.

00:28:56.200 They left thousands of what what Alex is talking about.

00:28:59.700 And what they do is they go from appointed officials or or people that are that are not

00:29:05.660 civil servants and they bring them in or they appoint them as what's called HQEs, highly

00:29:11.260 qualified experts.

00:29:13.020 And they put them into all kinds of places throughout the government.

00:29:16.600 And in the case of the Obama administration, they did that to the tune of thousands.

00:29:20.740 And most people that came in with the Trump administration, in fact, I would say almost

00:29:25.080 95 percent of the people that came in with Trump had no idea that this was taking place

00:29:30.500 and don't even understand still probably to this day what an HQE is and how many how many

00:29:35.840 of these HQEs you can actually put into positions and what HQEs, highly qualified experts, what

00:29:41.720 that means and what kind of authorities they have to be able to do things to basically manage

00:29:47.180 our government.

00:29:48.040 I mean, when you talk about a deep state bureaucracy, it's not just the civil servants.

00:29:52.140 It's not just the senior executives.

00:29:53.980 It's also a litany of other types of people that are allowed to stay in government and they

00:29:59.080 get paid a lot of money to be HQEs and they get and if they're working on the in this case

00:30:05.040 for the other side or for the previous administration or if they're if they if they go ahead and

00:30:10.460 place them and and and shift them over into other positions within the government, you

00:30:16.640 know, if if a Trump victory occurs in November, one of the things that that has to happen is

00:30:22.840 there has to be literally there does have to be a cleansing of a lot of these people that

00:30:28.260 frankly don't belong in the government any longer.

00:30:30.920 They absolutely take up space.

00:30:33.100 They take they take a lot of taxpayer dollars.

00:30:35.160 And all they're doing is they are literally in the case of the 2016 to 2017 transition,

00:30:41.100 they are subverting the the duly elected president of the United States of America.

00:30:46.680 And in this case, it was Donald Trump.

00:30:48.420 And this is essentially what they're talking about again.

00:30:50.940 So last point, last point.

00:30:53.020 Now, shut up.

00:30:53.900 I don't want anybody to to to to because there's a lot of people that are going to listen to

00:30:58.700 this tonight.

00:30:59.460 People still need to get out and vote.

00:31:01.420 Everybody don't don't assume that Donald Trump's going to win this thing.

00:31:04.500 Hands down, I believe he he will have a major victory, but people still need to get out

00:31:09.360 and vote.

00:31:09.840 And regardless of what you think about the voting integrity of our systems, of our voting

00:31:13.800 systems, you still got to get out and vote.

00:31:15.740 We can't have a 40 percent or a 50 percent turnout.

00:31:18.220 We have to have like an 80 or 90 percent.

00:31:20.140 I totally agree.

00:31:20.960 I totally agree.

00:31:21.680 Actually, actually.

00:31:23.240 And if I could go back in, guys, on on Mary McCord, thank you, General, as well for that.

00:31:27.880 And and of course, the general is exactly right when it comes to these leave behind networks,

00:31:31.840 that there's there's one thing on Mary McCord I need to explain in another part is talking

00:31:35.680 about why they're getting into the insurrection action.

00:31:37.700 Number one, Mary McCord, she has been at the center of every single piece of the nullification

00:31:42.520 project and the deconstruction project of the Trump presidency since day one.

00:31:47.700 She was running the Justice Department's National Security Division for the Mueller investigation,

00:31:53.020 which turned into the Mueller investigation under under James Comey, then originally under Holder.

00:31:58.420 She is the one who submitted the FISA application to spy on the Trump campaign.

00:32:04.120 She's the one who originally did that.

00:32:06.280 This was the rule change at the CIA, all the Horowitz stuff joining the FISA court.

00:32:10.960 And, you know, I was I was actually just reading through her sort of background here on

00:32:15.500 conservative treehouse and Sundance has done a great job there.

00:32:18.000 And it even points out that Mary McCord actually created the Logan Act claim, which was falsely

00:32:24.100 used against General Flynn, who, of course, we have here tonight.

00:32:26.600 And as you well know, and then went with Sally Yates to confront the White House about this.

00:32:31.360 She's the one who's created all this stuff.

00:32:33.360 So the fact that she's involved and she's also what she's been doing lately.

00:32:37.120 Oh, she's been working with the January 6th committee as one of their key staffers.

00:32:41.860 The same January 6th committee staff that we found most recently was secretly meeting with

00:32:47.680 who?

00:32:48.380 Fannie Willis before she was able to put out the Fulton County prosecution.

00:32:53.420 And so we know it's all connected.

00:32:55.600 It's all connected.

00:32:56.600 It's all the same people.

00:32:57.520 It's all the same names.

00:32:58.420 What's key about this.

00:32:59.380 And if I could if I could throw it to Alex and then and then I want to open up to more

00:33:02.660 people is that, Alex, the fact that they're talking about the Insurrection Act, it's very

00:33:07.280 clear to me what they're actually warning.

00:33:09.340 And I think you're you're saying it, but I wanted to spell it out for people.

00:33:12.420 When President Trump talked about invoking the Insurrection Act, that's for using military

00:33:17.980 power to put down what domestic unrest.

00:33:21.460 This was last used in the L.A. riots in the 1990s.

00:33:24.980 Now, we know that the Insurrection Act in 2020, when we had domestic an actual armed domestic

00:33:31.480 violent insurrection throughout the summer of 2020, was only invoked in Washington, D.C.

00:33:36.040 You didn't really have to because D.C. is actually a federal district.

00:33:38.480 But I remember being in D.C. in 2020 and we would see ATF and Bureau of Prisons and Bortak

00:33:44.480 was going out.

00:33:45.180 Bortak went up to Portland as well at the federal courthouse there.

00:33:49.440 But the Insurrection Act, you did not see military troops going into American cities to put down

00:33:54.940 unrest.

00:33:55.840 So, Alex, what it seems to me, what they're what they're foreshadowing is, and it's actually

00:33:59.900 a threat.

00:34:00.520 It's actually a threat.

00:34:01.460 And this is what's key.

00:34:02.600 They're threatening that if he's elected again, they're saying the same networks that General

00:34:08.140 Flynn, and you mentioned this, that they said they were going to activate at the end of

00:34:11.840 2020.

00:34:12.460 They didn't end up activating them.

00:34:14.860 They're going to activate them potentially if it looks like Trump's going to win.

00:34:19.760 I'm saying I think they might even do this on Election Day or beforehand.

00:34:24.740 Alex, what is your analysis when it comes to that?

00:34:28.840 Well, Jack, I totally agree with you.

00:34:30.820 That's why I've got General Flynn and you here that are being serious are the few of the

00:34:35.320 people that actually understand this.

00:34:37.720 They have telegraphed that they are going to launch major civil unrest like they did

00:34:42.920 in the summer of 2000.

00:34:44.080 They say that they're going to activate Black Lives Matter.

00:34:47.840 And then basically, Brand Trump was this big racist Hitler, and he can't call out the military

00:34:52.900 to quell it.

00:34:54.060 So they're trying to to basically gild him or castrate him ahead of this and trying to have

00:34:59.620 the Congress, which isn't going to happen, but it's for PR purposes, pass a law that the

00:35:05.940 president cannot call out the military as Bush did and rightfully so during the 1992 riots.

00:35:13.340 So we could have a better expert than General Flynn, you know, to to speak to this.

00:35:17.540 And I know you're I really you're you're very informed to understand this.

00:35:20.760 And I'm not saying we've won, but but but but now they're moving on from assassination.

00:35:26.240 They may still try it.

00:35:27.440 They understand that the indictments have blown up in their face.

00:35:30.440 Everything's unraveled.

00:35:31.480 Supreme Court is going to override it.

00:35:33.400 They understand there's a major political realignment.

00:35:35.940 And so to have the key people involved in the coup, the soft coup of 2016, to block everything

00:35:42.100 Trump did to remove Flynn so he couldn't remove these networks, they're going back to their

00:35:47.320 original plan really of digging in.

00:35:50.180 So they're kind of let's say this, they're moving at least at one level away from offense

00:35:54.820 and they're still on offense, but at least they're now before they were doing nothing

00:35:59.160 on defense because they were so confident.

00:36:02.060 Now their arrogance has disappeared, which makes them more dangerous because they realize

00:36:06.300 there's a major landslide already happening as evidenced by what we're about to see in Iowa.

00:36:11.420 And so what we know from the people voting with dead names and people voting out of district,

00:36:15.800 they tried it in Texas, they tried it in Florida in the midterms a year ago and also three

00:36:23.580 years ago in 2020 in Texas and Florida, they ran out of the dead people.

00:36:29.400 And so they were unable to have that curve that happened in Michigan and Georgia and Arizona

00:36:34.340 and steal it.

00:36:35.080 So they're looking at the tea leaves and realizing they're actually losing.

00:36:39.140 Doesn't mean we've won, folks, but we've got the initiative.

00:36:41.360 And so they're activating all their spooks, all their deep state operatives, the Biden

00:36:46.420 administration.

00:36:47.760 Last week, even corporate media reported that Obama went and read the riot act to Biden and

00:36:52.660 said, you will follow our orders.

00:36:54.300 He told campaign staff, don't listen to him.

00:36:56.700 As Flynn said, as Rogers said, that they're preparing to remove him.

00:37:00.140 And I don't think the gimmick of Michelle Obama or Gavin Newsom is going to work.

00:37:04.240 So yeah, we've started to win the war.

00:37:06.760 We have the initiative.

00:37:07.580 But they're going to come down with everything they've got.

00:37:10.740 And that's why it's key to be tomorrow's news today and to really get ahead of this

00:37:14.980 right now and point out all this dictator stuff, all this censorship, all these arrests, all

00:37:20.320 the persecution is them.

00:37:21.920 Trump isn't a dictator, as the Wall Street Journal and New York Times and Washington Post

00:37:25.860 said he wants to be.

00:37:27.020 They're the ones trying to create this totalitarian oligarchy of bureaucrats and neocons and Democrats

00:37:34.200 over America.

00:37:35.400 And so for me, yeah, get out and vote, win the caucuses, make Trump the nominee.

00:37:40.980 But General Flynn's right.

00:37:42.080 He's going to get that nomination.

00:37:44.700 And so then we have to think about the election fraud, the dead people voting, the virus they'll

00:37:49.280 release for new lockdowns, the domestic terror they're going to launch ahead of this, branding,

00:37:55.900 I would say racial false flags, branding Trump as a racist, George Floyd 10.0 to the 10th

00:38:02.380 power.

00:38:07.380 We know their plan.

00:38:08.280 They're activating the same networks that saw Flynn as the number one.

00:38:11.480 And I'm not just saying this to kiss Flynn fast.

00:38:12.980 He was their number one enemy.

00:38:14.340 Trump was smart enough to know Flynn before.

00:38:16.440 He knew nobody else.

00:38:17.740 He wasn't from Washington.

00:38:18.960 He put one good guy in.

00:38:20.840 And that's why he was the first target.

00:38:23.000 But now we are smarter.

00:38:25.640 We've already been through this again.

00:38:27.020 And they're running the same play on us right now.

00:38:29.540 Yeah, let me just jump in on a couple of things, because I know, Jack, you want to bring some

00:38:37.360 others in.

00:38:38.540 I think this is really important that this particular conversation that we're having is and the

00:38:44.620 ability for us to have this.

00:38:46.100 And I think we need to do this actually more often, because it allows us to organize and

00:38:50.960 allows us to understand and allows us to be able to determine what things each of us can do

00:38:58.120 sort of individually or as small groups.

00:39:01.060 And because I would say that what I am seeing, you know, kind of like, well, how do we fix this?

00:39:05.900 How do we overcome this?

00:39:07.800 Right?

00:39:07.980 Because that's my thing.

00:39:09.160 I've always been, you know, it's clear what the problems are, but it's what is it that we do

00:39:13.980 to overcome this and to beat this inertia.

00:39:17.560 We're going to see other names pop up.

00:39:19.740 We mentioned a couple tonight on their side.

00:39:22.740 Right.

00:39:22.940 But we're going to see other names on their side pop up.

00:39:25.660 But what is happening is I see it and I think all of us do.

00:39:29.980 We see we see a lot of influencers popping up on the on the networks.

00:39:35.120 We see people like Alex and Jack and and Roger and many others.

00:39:39.120 There's many other influencers out there that are that are all in the same.

00:39:41.980 We're much more on the same sheet of music now than we were even going into 2020.

00:39:47.940 And and we've learned a lot of lessons.

00:39:49.980 We also have a lot of small groups sort of on the battle space out there on the on the

00:39:54.700 on the field of America doing a lot of really good, strong, positive things, whether it's

00:40:00.420 people in Arizona, people in Illinois, people in Georgia.

00:40:03.720 And we have our own lawfare battles being waged and going on and we're winning in some cases.

00:40:10.680 And we just need to keep doing that.

00:40:12.680 I think I think what we have to do is we have to keep this message alive.

00:40:17.300 And I do think that once we get through the primaries and we'll get through the primaries

00:40:21.740 here, OK, well, and I think we're going to see some historic victories and some of these

00:40:27.140 people that are on the trail there right now that are still still running.

00:40:32.200 I do believe that some of these people won't quit.

00:40:35.000 You know, people like DeSantis and Nikki Haley, Nikki Haley will just because the type of person

00:40:40.100 that she is, she'll probably go all the way to the convention or whatever, but whatever.

00:40:43.180 But we need to we need to get behind who it is that can can sort of overcome this problem

00:40:51.600 that we have.

00:40:52.280 And, you know, in this case, Donald J. Trump.

00:40:54.020 So we get behind him.

00:40:55.960 And, you know, he I know because I've spoken to him enough over the last couple of weeks

00:41:01.160 and months, he has learned a lot.

00:41:03.720 Now, there's a this is a big job to become president of the United States.

00:41:07.160 And you can't just you know, you got to depend on all kinds of people.

00:41:10.720 And people will bitch and moan about, you know, he's got this person around him or that

00:41:15.140 person and it'll be all that kind of stuff.

00:41:16.860 I got that.

00:41:17.720 And I understand that.

00:41:18.760 I know he understands that.

00:41:20.180 But we've got it.

00:41:21.140 We've got to rely on those people that are very brutally honest about the kinds of things

00:41:25.700 that we are involved in and continue to message to him.

00:41:28.640 I know he's listening.

00:41:29.680 He's paying attention.

00:41:30.700 And as we move from the primaries and we move into the toward the general, we move into

00:41:36.640 the time frame of the conventions and then the dead sprint going into into November.

00:41:42.580 We have really, really got to strengthen our numbers and really get the message out about

00:41:47.500 how to how to win.

00:41:49.140 You know, and we we do have to win in key places.

00:41:53.260 We don't have to necessarily win everywhere, but we've got to win.

00:41:56.840 We've got to win in more places than than I think we did in the past.

00:42:01.120 And my big thing, and I've been I've been all over this, is voter turnout.

00:42:06.480 You know, our averages in 2022, in 2022, which is an off year election, not a presidential

00:42:12.720 election, the average turnout nationwide was around 40 percent.

00:42:17.420 And that's highballing it, folks.

00:42:19.060 It's got to go 60.

00:42:20.300 In the in the 20 in the well, in the 2020 election, which was the highest turnout in our

00:42:25.600 at least in the last 50 years, was only 69 percent.

00:42:28.620 We have got to get into the 75, 80 percentiles.

00:42:32.020 That means that, you know, those that are that are out there hustling voters.

00:42:35.940 And I just am livid with the Republican Party because this is the Republican National Committee,

00:42:41.880 the Republican executive chairs of every county.

00:42:44.480 They're only they have two responsibilities.

00:42:46.400 That's to get people to register and then to get people to vote.

00:42:49.540 And we have got to see voter turnout in the conservative side of the aisle to the tune of

00:42:56.540 like 80 percent.

00:42:57.420 We can overwhelm any any trick that they have up their sleeve.

00:43:01.400 And then once we get back into power, then we can start making really smart decisions

00:43:06.040 about how to basically reshape the way the government, the federal government, is operating

00:43:11.600 and take some very serious actions about about reforms.

00:43:15.940 I mean, that's really what it's all about.

00:43:17.680 Every organization needs to go through a reformation or a change.

00:43:21.300 That doesn't mean that we change the Constitution.

00:43:23.420 It just means that we that we lessen the authorities and powers of our federal government.

00:43:28.060 If we don't, if we don't, we are we are doing a disservice for not only our our, you know,

00:43:34.180 the people that have have sacrificed their lives to this country, but we're doing a disservice

00:43:38.700 to the future of this country.

00:43:40.280 By the way, let me just say this really quick and then I'll shut up and then a bunch of

00:43:43.580 people want to talk.

00:43:44.200 But a totally regional plan, I want to be a million percent clear.

00:43:46.900 I did not bring up this Democrat coup, take over the military, block Trump thing to try

00:43:54.160 to say that it's a shoe in and we're going to win this.

00:43:57.080 It just shows how strong we are and if we do mobilize people to believe in voting, not

00:44:03.100 because it doesn't have problems, but because brute force of massive landslide, every expert

00:44:08.660 agrees, will overpower them, we can save this country.

00:44:11.880 The enemies of this country are scared and that's why somebody like General Flynn, what

00:44:16.340 he just said five minutes ago, we got, I know Trump listens and Roger talks to him every

00:44:20.600 day.

00:44:21.120 Now Flynn talks to him all the time too.

00:44:22.360 We have got to let him know to talk about the intelligence agencies, to talk about the

00:44:27.400 hijacked government, because this is the criminals that have committed all these serious crimes

00:44:32.020 against America and endangered the whole planet.

00:44:34.820 They're desperate and we need to understand the waters we're in.

00:44:38.840 The average person around Trump, sorry, I'm not trying to be mean, is a lightweight or just

00:44:43.120 a politico.

00:44:44.160 They're not a guy that's run the military and been involved and knows how, because we're

00:44:48.660 not used to having the CIA openly operating and other agencies against us.

00:44:52.980 So this is big boy pants time, folks.

00:44:56.260 This is the battle for the republic and as America goes, so goes the world.

00:45:00.820 I cannot stress how incredible this is and it is good news though that they're already

00:45:05.800 running to stay behind networks in case Trump gets in.

00:45:08.900 I'm not saying that means we've won the war, but we're winning the battles right now.

00:45:12.260 Alex, that's exactly right.

00:45:13.420 And we can't let up just because we think Iowa's going to go, oh, we can't let up.

00:45:16.920 I want to remind everybody, just reset real quick, that we're doing the Great Depression

00:45:20.340 Town Hall.

00:45:21.100 It's Iowa Eve.

00:45:21.880 We're talking about Iowa.

00:45:22.900 We're talking about everything that we're facing.

00:45:24.660 We're talking about what this great project is all about.

00:45:28.220 I want to thank Real America's Voice for coordinating this entire thing.

00:45:31.560 And actually, I wanted to pass it to Steve Ruber, who's my colleague over at Real America's

00:45:36.180 Voice.

00:45:36.480 He wanted to get in and had a couple of words that he wanted to share with us.

00:45:40.440 Jack, thank you for that.

00:45:41.720 And gentlemen, I want to talk about some of the things that you've all touched on, all super

00:45:45.400 important.

00:45:45.720 And I live in Michigan, and I know that we can win Michigan.

00:45:49.100 Trump's up by eight points here, if you believe the polling, obviously, and polling suspect.

00:45:53.660 But Roger Stone, I want to say, first of all, you're for praising Elon Musk.

00:45:57.100 I tip my hat to you because that $44 billion saved freedom of speech for a lot of us out

00:46:02.780 here, obviously, because we can have these conversations.

00:46:05.300 Now, Alex is back after his lifetime ban.

00:46:07.540 Congratulations, Alex, for that.

00:46:09.760 Michael, I've got to tell you, Michael, I've been saying this for a while now.

00:46:14.720 I'd like you guys to weigh in on this, and that is fight like a Democrat.

00:46:18.080 Look, in Michigan and in other places, they went and rechanged all the rules.

00:46:22.780 You know that during the pandemic.

00:46:24.060 I mean, they mass mail-in ballots, and your signature doesn't have to match it.

00:46:30.060 All this other nonsense.

00:46:31.000 We all know it's garbage.

00:46:32.140 They don't allow it anywhere in Europe, and they want to foist it upon us.

00:46:35.460 But I say fight like a Democrat, because come September, which, remarkably, in Michigan,

00:46:40.440 I can start voting in September this year, and the election's on November 5, of course.

00:46:44.980 But I'm going to vote on the first day possible that it's legal.

00:46:47.240 I'm going to spend the next six weeks of my life getting every low-propensity voter that

00:46:51.500 believes, like I do, to get out there and vote.

00:46:53.540 You can't rally from two or three or four million votes down on Election Day.

00:46:57.420 You've got to be ready, and so you've got to get in there and get people in ahead of

00:47:02.580 time.

00:47:02.880 We've got to bank votes, right?

00:47:05.220 We've got to bank votes, and we can't sit there.

00:47:07.440 And guys, we hear this all the time.

00:47:09.820 I don't trust the system.

00:47:11.440 I don't trust the system.

00:47:12.440 And maybe Alex will get you to weigh in on this, because you're talking about it as

00:47:15.180 well.

00:47:16.280 If you don't trust the system and you don't vote, you've disqualified yourself.

00:47:21.000 Well, I would just say this briefly.

00:47:23.960 Look, you know, I'm not saying the toughest guy around, but I grew up in Dallas.

00:47:27.040 It was rough, and people started fights.

00:47:29.120 And if I weighed 170 pounds, if the guy weighed 250 pounds, I just had to fight harder.

00:47:33.040 And all the numbers show it.

00:47:34.400 We have a landslide.

00:47:35.520 As General Flynn said, they cannot overpower a 75%, you know, turnout.

00:47:42.640 And so absolutely, and this is just so incredibly historic, and we've got to get everybody.

00:47:50.120 In fact, I'll lock on doors, not just do talk shows.

00:47:52.920 We've got to go to our churches.

00:47:54.760 We've got to speak.

00:47:55.340 Everybody's got to go.

00:47:56.660 Alex, I want to film a video of you going door-to-door in the election.

00:48:01.500 I'll do it.

00:48:02.140 I'll do it.

00:48:02.460 Hello, man.

00:48:03.140 Knock, knock.

00:48:04.740 Boy, that scared the hell out of people.

00:48:07.300 Yeah.

00:48:09.040 I agree with you guys.

00:48:10.460 I think 54% is the number we're going to see out of Iowa tomorrow.

00:48:12.780 I think that this whole election for Trump was wrapped up in two or three weeks max, and here

00:48:17.300 in Michigan, that means that we can marshal our resources.

00:48:19.940 Because, look, Michigan, we have a—it's not just about Donald Trump getting back to

00:48:24.380 the White House.

00:48:25.500 It's picking up that Senate seat in Michigan and a Senate seat in Pennsylvania and Ohio and

00:48:30.400 Arizona.

00:48:31.280 We can change the whole dynamic, but we have to vote, and we have to convince those people,

00:48:35.600 and we all understand why they don't trust the system.

00:48:39.020 Why would you, after what we've seen for the last several years, right?

00:48:43.380 But we have to jump in and convince these people that you have to vote, because otherwise—

00:48:47.100 Well, yeah, they want you to give up.

00:48:48.960 Right.

00:48:49.620 They want us to give up.

00:48:50.580 But I can go back to only say this, because there's two people I know, and Steve Bannon's

00:48:54.640 really smart, too.

00:48:55.840 And Roger's awesome on politics.

00:48:57.580 When I talk to General Flynn or Jack Posobiec, they both know all the weird stuff I've studied,

00:49:02.280 looked into as a layperson, but they've lived in the military.

00:49:04.820 So it's a two-pronged deal.

00:49:05.840 We've got to get turnout.

00:49:06.820 We've got to be politically savvy.

00:49:08.100 We've got to educate people.

00:49:09.540 We've also got to understand we're up against major arms of the intelligence agencies, factions.

00:49:15.140 But I think telling Americans they're up against a deep state coup, they keep saying Trump's

00:49:20.340 a coup.

00:49:21.040 He's a dictator.

00:49:22.280 He wants to use the military.

00:49:23.760 Trump's done none of that.

00:49:24.760 The left is what wants to use the military and take our guns.

00:49:28.980 And I think if General Flynn talks to Trump and if Roger talks to Trump, that Trump could

00:49:34.180 turn this around against him.

00:49:36.120 And you know what?

00:49:37.380 And we all have to be talking.

00:49:38.780 I mean, if you read this article and you go back to that Time magazine article back in

00:49:43.920 February of 2021, I mean, this is what, and you pay any attention to what happened in

00:49:49.940 2017, particularly the Russiagate thing, which is the total, which is based on the

00:49:54.760 lie that Hillary Clinton designed.

00:49:57.940 I mean, this is where we're in the state.

00:50:00.100 We're in the we're in the middle of a coup.

00:50:01.600 The coup has been ongoing, folks.

00:50:03.480 And this is just another another aspect of it.

00:50:06.140 So we have to turn this entire story around on them.

00:50:11.360 And frankly, the majority of the American people are going to listen to us than they are to

00:50:15.140 these people who have been lying through their teeth to us and basically destroying this

00:50:19.660 country intentionally.

00:50:20.980 That's what build back better means.

00:50:23.400 Build back better means destroy everything and then build it back in their image.

00:50:26.420 So we have got to turn this entire message around.

00:50:29.520 And it's got to start with, you know, I do believe that Trump needs to be talking about

00:50:32.980 this more more often, how the how it's not so much the military, it's them trying to change

00:50:37.880 and subvert the military.

00:50:39.020 But definitely, it's the intelligence community.

00:50:41.420 And who is who's in control of it?

00:50:43.600 Absolutely.

00:50:44.920 Exactly.

00:50:45.120 Well, and it's and it's the and in general, it's just as you say it, the fact that they

00:50:50.660 are the ones conducting a coup is exactly why they switch it around.

00:50:55.500 And the iron law of woke projection, we can never get away from it because they are the

00:51:00.520 ones who are going to launch a coup against the vote of the people.

00:51:04.780 Again, I've heard all of you guys on this on this call tonight.

00:51:08.280 I talk to you all regularly.

00:51:10.300 I've never once heard anyone, even behind the scenes, even what they they blame Roger,

00:51:15.940 even Roger Stone, even Roger Stone.

00:51:18.260 No one has ever said, hey, let's steal the election.

00:51:21.240 Let's do fake votes.

00:51:22.380 Let's do fake ballots.

00:51:23.740 Let's tell people that they that they can't vote.

00:51:26.600 Let's tell people that they can vote through through Dropbox.

00:51:29.700 All we've ever asked for is a fair fight.

00:51:31.740 That's the only thing we've ever asked for.

00:51:33.500 I've never heard anyone say anything other than that, because this is what they're doing.

00:51:36.860 They will call their side democracy and anything that we want to do.

00:51:40.500 Is authoritarianism.

00:51:42.260 But I did promise, by the way, that this would be a town hall.

00:51:45.080 I see that we're coming up on the one hour mark.

00:51:47.280 And I want to be I'd like to be respectful of the fact that we call this a town hall.

00:51:52.660 So I want to see if I can get some some folks up here, if that's all right with everyone.

00:51:56.480 If we can leave, we can just take some take some take some questions at random.

00:52:00.420 I see this gentleman here.

00:52:02.560 Let's see if I can get him up.

00:52:03.540 Derelict Republic says that he is a Philadelphia plumber.

00:52:08.820 I don't know if that's Revenon 1776, Philadelphia commercial plumber.

00:52:15.360 Are you there?

00:52:16.180 Yes, sir.

00:52:16.640 I am here.

00:52:18.520 All right.

00:52:18.780 Is that is that real?

00:52:19.580 You're you're a plumber in Philadelphia?

00:52:21.000 Yes, sir.

00:52:21.480 I am.

00:52:22.960 Oh, that's great.

00:52:23.700 Great.

00:52:23.920 Great to have you on.

00:52:24.620 Where do you work?

00:52:25.120 I used to work down on 16th Street.

00:52:26.440 Well, I'm a commercial plumber in Philly.

00:52:29.860 I mean, I work all over the city.

00:52:31.700 So all over.

00:52:33.860 Yeah, I'm actually surprised that you brought me up.

00:52:36.760 But Alex, Jack, love you guys.

00:52:39.780 I honestly can't believe that I'm sitting here like with General Flynn and the whole deal.

00:52:45.580 But I just want to praise you guys because you guys.

00:52:52.160 You're keeping the fight going.

00:52:54.140 I'm so tired of this infighting.

00:52:56.160 Like, all we see is like, you know, this is the precipice of humanity.

00:53:02.860 Like, this is the fight for humanity right now.

00:53:05.960 2024, if we don't fucking like make some headway, we're fucked.

00:53:11.280 Like, humanity's fucked.

00:53:13.220 And, you know, look, I'm not the I'm not the best speaker there is.

00:53:18.100 I'm not the most vocal person there is.

00:53:20.420 You know, I've been I've been following this game for a really long time.

00:53:23.440 You guys are, you know, the people in this game.

00:53:27.680 I just want to say thank you for bringing me up on here.

00:53:30.000 I just, you know.

00:53:31.420 Well, brother, I want to say I want to thank you, the American people.

00:53:34.800 So please get this straight.

00:53:36.100 But just like other women together.

00:53:37.540 Yeah, you know, and I don't know.

00:53:43.420 I don't want to put you on the spot there.

00:53:44.820 But, you know, and maybe you do.

00:53:47.100 Maybe you don't have a family.

00:53:49.060 But, you know, you sound like a young and a young enough guy, probably young enough to

00:53:53.260 be my son.

00:53:54.280 But I have kids.

00:53:55.400 I have grandchildren.

00:53:56.740 And, you know, and I know what I've lived through.

00:53:59.560 And I know the life that I was given as a as a kid growing up and in a large family,

00:54:05.360 you know, really a lot of military background in my family.

00:54:09.000 And, you know, I know I know what it's like to sacrifice.

00:54:11.740 I know what it's like to stand up and serve our country.

00:54:14.700 And, you know, now is the time that we're all going to have to serve again.

00:54:18.160 And we do it.

00:54:18.820 I do it, you know, because I love the country.

00:54:21.020 But I also do it because I love my family and I love I love my children.

00:54:24.040 And I love your ability to this last gentleman that just spoke to be able to have the life

00:54:30.340 that you want to have, that you're trying to have for your for yourself and for your

00:54:34.460 family.

00:54:34.980 So, you know, God love you.

00:54:36.380 And thank you for for speaking up.

00:54:41.940 Absolutely.

00:54:42.520 I see a few great reporters there.

00:54:44.200 I see I see Z Media also see Jamie White, whoever you want to go to.

00:54:50.740 I wanted to if my Michael.

00:54:52.920 OK, I wanted to get on Tammy McDonald here, who is coming on now.

00:54:58.560 I don't know if everybody remembers Tammy.

00:55:00.660 I do, because we tweeted about this back when it happened.

00:55:03.720 But my my family, my parents were swatted a couple of days before Christmas.

00:55:09.620 And then again, on Christmas Day, Tammy McDonald actually got swatted on the very same day as

00:55:15.840 my parents, except the differences and as and as horrific as it was that, you know, she's

00:55:21.780 not someone out there who's doing a show.

00:55:23.580 She's not running her mouth on a on a on a network or anything like that.

00:55:27.480 She's just a regular person who ended up getting targeted by these guys.

00:55:31.520 Tammy, are you there?

00:55:33.140 I am here.

00:55:33.980 Can you hear me?

00:55:35.520 I can hear you loud and clear.

00:55:39.900 Yeah.

00:55:40.500 Yeah.

00:55:40.980 You were talking about my swatting.

00:55:42.700 I was it was on the 23rd of December.

00:55:45.900 I live on the street that has it's called the Festival of Lights in our little town.

00:55:52.020 And I was outside handing out candy canes to the kids going up to the Festival of Lights

00:55:57.740 that night.

00:55:58.400 I actually gave out like 800 candy canes that night.

00:56:01.160 I'm so nervous.

00:56:01.940 I'm sorry.

00:56:03.440 But anyway, I had the way I just want to I just want to throw that out there, folks,

00:56:07.720 because Tammy, you told me that story when when we spoke offline the other day.

00:56:12.500 But I was hoping you would say that again.

00:56:14.560 What was Tammy McDonald?

00:56:16.220 What was a MAGA mom doing when the left was swatting her?

00:56:20.420 Oh, she was standing outside for the Christmas festival, handing out 800 candy canes to the

00:56:27.200 children as they walked by.

00:56:29.380 That's the type of person who is in this movement.

00:56:32.720 That's the type of person that is making this country run on a day to day basis.

00:56:37.220 And of course, you're the type of person they target because you represent a massive problem.

00:56:42.880 So they say that, you know, Jones and Stone and Posobiec and Flynn are the threats.

00:56:47.100 No, no, no.

00:56:47.720 It's the Tammy McDonald's all over this country that are the biggest threat to this crooked

00:56:52.600 regime.

00:56:53.860 You're exactly right, Jack.

00:56:56.740 I mean, you cannot understand.

00:56:58.960 And I am I have twenty three thousand followers on Twitter.

00:57:03.780 I mean, and I've just gotten those since like you have recognized me and captured and recognized

00:57:09.560 me.

00:57:10.260 And and here I am just standing out there.

00:57:13.160 Or I'm, you know, I'm just an everyday American woman who loves my country and loves my president.

00:57:20.880 And I'm standing out there giving candy candy canes that I bought with my own money.

00:57:25.440 And I was swatted by the police.

00:57:27.740 I had seven or eight cop cars that were like, you know, I could see them personally or they

00:57:35.700 were designed cop cars and then two or three unmarked cop cars pull up in front of my house

00:57:44.180 and swap me for just because I get on Twitter and I say that I love my country and I love

00:57:52.280 my president.

00:57:52.940 And that's how we're being treated.

00:57:56.240 Well, Tammy, it's just like when we saw them send the FBI after parents protesting critical

00:58:02.280 race theory and transgenderism to their kids.

00:58:05.160 They're scared of you.

00:58:06.260 As Jack said, they're scared of real people.

00:58:09.320 Yeah, it's just it's unbelievable.

00:58:12.520 I thank you so much for recognizing me, Jack, and I thank you so much for taking the time to

00:58:17.440 call me week before last.

00:58:19.500 And I just I do have a question.

00:58:22.240 I mean, I know that you guys know a lot of these people, but I wonder what y'all's thoughts

00:58:31.520 are of people that who we follow, who are who have been on Trump's coattails since 2015

00:58:44.440 and are now kind of turning on him.

00:58:47.140 And it's really upsetting for me.

00:58:49.700 Well, they're a bunch of cowards.

00:58:51.160 They're a bunch of so they don't matter.

00:58:53.940 OK, perfect.

00:58:55.420 Perfect.

00:58:56.120 They don't.

00:58:56.820 They don't.

00:58:57.380 And you know what?

00:58:58.200 And you know what?

00:58:58.640 And that that happens.

00:58:59.580 I saw that in my own life there, Tammy.

00:59:01.840 And I believe me, I had a lot of people that I thought were going to be in my camp.

00:59:06.020 And boy, when you find out when when the shit hits the fan, you know, that that you're going

00:59:11.540 to find out who's who's going to stand with you shoulder to shoulder and stand up against

00:59:16.600 this, this frankly, this monster, you know, that we are facing.

00:59:20.360 And but but it's a this is a winnable battle.

00:59:23.960 This is a winnable war.

00:59:25.540 We can defeat these.

00:59:26.920 We can defeat this animal.

00:59:28.300 And and believe me, it's people like you that they're afraid of.

00:59:32.160 There's a lot of you out there.

00:59:33.640 There's a lot more of you out there than you and you even know.

00:59:37.060 And we just got to make sure that we keep getting the message out and and and keep encouraging

00:59:41.860 people like you to just keep standing up for the things that you believe in.

00:59:46.180 So keep doing what you're doing.

00:59:47.420 Amen.

00:59:47.980 Amen, Tammy.

00:59:48.840 I wanted to wanted to get just to kind of reset again real quick, just to remind everybody

00:59:54.580 that you want to thank Real America's Voice for being here and setting this up for us.

00:59:58.080 We've got Alex Jones, General Michael Flynn, who I served under when I was I was in a DIA

01:00:03.080 operation at Guantanamo Bay and back when back when I was a little little E5 and he was the

01:00:09.680 general at the office at the top of the top of the building there.

01:00:13.020 We've got Roger Stone, Steve Gruber from Real America's Voice is here.

01:00:16.020 I want to get bring on Nikki, if I could very quickly here.

01:00:19.460 The PsyOps rabbit.

01:00:22.300 I love these town halls.

01:00:23.560 I love everybody's names.

01:00:24.500 Nikki, how are you doing tonight?

01:00:26.140 I'm doing great.

01:00:27.400 And thanks for bringing me up.

01:00:29.720 What part of the country are you calling from?

01:00:31.420 I'm in Ohio.

01:00:32.760 Ohio.

01:00:33.260 All right.

01:00:33.560 So thanks for bringing me up and to be on stage with you guys.

01:00:37.760 It's cool.

01:00:38.560 It's awesome.

01:00:39.000 I heard the microphone going.

01:00:40.400 I'm like, what?

01:00:41.840 My question is about I'll give you an example.

01:00:47.360 So I'm in Ohio in the last Senate race.

01:00:49.820 I was keeping an eye on the PA in Ohio races and, you know, on my phone, just watching as

01:00:58.160 the counts come in.

01:00:59.920 And I noticed that the votes were being basically like redistributed in PA.

01:01:06.680 So my question is kind of around that black box voting fraction magic thing, because when

01:01:13.280 you guys say, you know, people need to come out in numbers, I have a feeling part of that

01:01:20.940 is to overcome that fraction magic mystery of how they are able to redistribute.

01:01:27.660 And people don't understand that.

01:01:29.680 So basically, like when you watch these, I took so many screenshots and I called the

01:01:34.440 election board.

01:01:35.040 I asked, I said, I asked them, I said, if you have votes being counted, are, are there

01:01:42.320 any circumstances where those votes should come off and go to another candidate?

01:01:48.680 And they said, no.

01:01:49.980 And I said, well, I have, you know, I don't know how many screenshots of that actually happening.

01:01:54.760 So within seconds, you know, they would use the independent, you know, cause this is a

01:02:00.380 Senate race, so it's a little bit different, but they would use the independent to kind

01:02:04.020 of cushion.

01:02:04.640 So, you know, one would stay at like, um, like, uh, when you watch the counts over an

01:02:10.320 hour, the percentages between, um, the candidates were so thin, like, I mean, like two point

01:02:18.000 something percent.

01:02:19.080 And then the, the, uh, independent was like a three point something percent.

01:02:23.320 They wouldn't waver over the whole hour.

01:02:25.580 Well, and you listen to those numbers, you listen, and, and, and if you listen to those

01:02:29.460 numbers, you just said, you're, you're talking about, these are, these are small percentages

01:02:35.300 in the overall.

01:02:36.680 And, and I know Alex, you've talked to this as well, but it's not a lot.

01:02:42.260 What I always talk about is the margin of fraud.

01:02:45.180 And as, as a guy from Pennsylvania, you just said, you're looking at Pennsylvania, you know,

01:02:48.820 last cycle, um, with, with the, uh, the Oz race, which gave us, you know, Fetterman, by

01:02:53.100 the way, Fetterman is running a complete PSYOP.

01:02:55.100 I hope everyone knows that right now.

01:02:56.540 This whole, uh, John Fetterman is becoming some, you know, he bonked his head and all

01:03:01.560 of a sudden he's a Republican.

01:03:02.580 No, no.

01:03:03.100 What he's doing is he's, he's, it's basic election year pandering where he's going to

01:03:07.880 say some things that act like they make sense.

01:03:10.560 They seem like they make sense.

01:03:11.640 He's going to talk about the border.

01:03:12.540 He's going to talk about illegals.

01:03:13.520 He's going to stand up for Israel, et cetera, et cetera.

01:03:15.040 And then all of a sudden he's going to endorse Joe Biden and he's going to lead Biden around

01:03:19.500 the state.

01:03:19.940 That's exactly what he's doing.

01:03:21.060 So give it back to the middle, right?

01:03:23.420 Push it back.

01:03:24.080 That's, Oh, what's up flex.

01:03:25.040 And so, so what I mean to say is though, when we're talking about the margin of fraud, and

01:03:28.980 I don't want to give out a, get away from your question, but when I talk about the margin

01:03:32.500 of fraud, again, we're talking about very small amounts, Alex, you can't steal landslides.

01:03:38.820 So we have to overpower them.

01:03:42.280 So, and really quick, cause I know you want to bring up other people.

01:03:46.200 So, um, the name Psyops and rabbit holes came up when, um, I had to shorten it, Psyops

01:03:52.360 rabbit, basically, um, last year at the end of January, um, we had so many news stories

01:04:01.180 coming out was Paul Pelosi, spy balloons.

01:04:03.940 Like all this shit was being dumped on people left and right.

01:04:06.600 And I came on Twitter and I was relatively new.

01:04:09.460 I hadn't done spaces at all.

01:04:11.200 Um, so much.

01:04:12.480 And I came on Twitter and I'm like, look at all these stories.

01:04:15.320 I'm like, what are they hiding from us?

01:04:18.100 So my whole thing was during, I ended up holding a space for about six days and just, I met

01:04:25.520 a lot of great people and, you know, cycled things around and we talked about things,

01:04:29.980 but I'm like, we can't talk about COVID.

01:04:31.600 We can't talk about anything that's mainstream in the news.

01:04:34.420 Our job was to find out what the Psyops were and dig the rabbit holes to find out what they

01:04:39.840 were hiding.

01:04:40.920 So that's, that's where that came from.

01:04:43.960 And that's what they fear.

01:04:45.300 That's what they fear.

01:04:46.640 Well, and that's important because I mean, when you watch news cycles, like even coming

01:04:50.340 in here, um, I took a break a little bit.

01:04:53.140 And when I came back in, I noticed like there's, they're, they're fracturing within our party.

01:04:59.840 So within their party, they're causing all these different fractures and all these different

01:05:05.060 things.

01:05:05.320 So they're separating and people are, are hyper focusing on really small things and then they're

01:05:11.440 fracturing.

01:05:11.940 And then these people are arguing and then these people are blocking.

01:05:15.100 Like we haven't had this a year or a bait, like a little over a year and people can't help

01:05:21.180 but argue and fight.

01:05:22.260 And I'm like, we have to come together and figure out what our commonalities are and not

01:05:27.220 our differences because Trump's going to win the primary soon.

01:05:31.320 And then we move into the real battle.

01:05:34.480 Well, thanks guys.

01:05:35.600 I appreciate the time.

01:05:36.940 And, uh, couldn't agree more.

01:05:38.840 And spaces is just an amazing place.

01:05:41.420 Thank you, Nikki, uh, the PSYOPs rabbit for being able to, to hold these, these just massive

01:05:47.280 wide form of communications, but it's interactive.

01:05:49.500 And that's, what's incredible.

01:05:50.300 Used to be, used to have to be Alex Jones and running the show down there to be able to

01:05:54.080 get, uh, get callers in like that.

01:05:55.740 I did see that we have Malcolm flex trying to get in and, uh, flex.

01:05:59.540 So you were actually there in Iowa.

01:06:01.460 You've been kind of in the middle of some of these, um, controversies, e-dramas that have

01:06:07.180 been going on since been out there.

01:06:08.520 So tell us, if I understand correctly, you, you've left Iowa now you're back home, but tell

01:06:13.820 us what it was like being there.

01:06:15.120 What was the energy like what we're hearing on the ground?

01:06:19.140 All right.

01:06:19.900 First of all, again, good evening, gentlemen.

01:06:21.840 Again, you guys are, you know, amazing service to everybody.

01:06:25.900 Um, you know, honestly, just being able to stand and stand, um, you know, toe to toe

01:06:31.520 sort of, um, in the snow, I guess you could say with a lot of the action there, the people

01:06:36.640 of Iowa are extremely receptive.

01:06:39.260 One of the things that I've noticed, and this is pretty much one of the things that kind

01:06:42.880 of got the VEKA meteoric spike out there is that when you look at what's being done,

01:06:49.160 none of the other campaigns are really trying that hard to reach people.

01:06:53.720 And it just seems like these people are extremely receptive.

01:06:56.040 They want somebody to come out there to them.

01:06:58.920 Now, by virtue of just how the landscape is, I think we all can say that's the foregone

01:07:03.700 conclusion.

01:07:04.300 Trump is inevitable.

01:07:05.380 Now, that being said, though, what Iowa has shown us, especially just given, and I know

01:07:11.300 one of you guys actually stated that, uh, you know, Trump last, last time only won Iowa

01:07:15.540 by a few points.

01:07:16.720 It seems that people are trying to feel the effects.

01:07:19.260 And, you know, one of the main things that, you know, the Democrats love to push forth

01:07:22.940 is to tell people, you can't believe you're lying guys.

01:07:26.040 You know, don't believe this.

01:07:27.360 Everybody's doing well.

01:07:28.160 The economy is great.

01:07:29.660 But when you hear the hurt and, you know, just a lot of the stories and, you know, a

01:07:35.220 lot of the tribulations that some of these people tell, you know, it is, it's, it's harrowing

01:07:40.440 how they've even made it this far.

01:07:41.880 So I think that Trump's got a massive opportunity to carry Iowa.

01:07:45.120 Now, one of the major issues, however, is the fact that you have Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis

01:07:50.680 sort of lurking.

01:07:51.600 And now I think Ron DeSantis, he was a golden boy back then.

01:07:55.140 And, you know, I haven't seen much of the campaign.

01:07:57.260 To be fair, I have not seen a single sign for a Ron DeSantis or Nikki Haley.

01:08:01.320 I think Iowa is pretty much a gem that they can't break in.

01:08:04.500 And if you remember the messaging early on, it was at first that Ron DeSantis was saying,

01:08:08.660 no, we're going to win Iowa.

01:08:10.560 Then it sort of pivoted to, you know, we want to remain competitive in Iowa.

01:08:15.600 And now at this point, now that Nikki Haley has made some inroads, and I think a lot of

01:08:19.420 the donors that really have sent cash into Ron DeSantis' campaign are kind of seeing that,

01:08:23.820 hey, this guy has, like, no presence, or, you know, you put him on stage with the other

01:08:28.600 candidates, and he's pretty much kind of toe-to-toe with Chris Christie as far as, you know, presence.

01:08:33.680 I think that they're starting to get buyer's remorse and push their money to Haley.

01:08:38.620 So where Vivek comes in is that I think he's a useful cudgel to at least create some insulation

01:08:45.280 between Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley, because at some point, you're going to have to deal

01:08:49.480 with the never-Trump faction to essentially pick...

01:08:53.500 Sorry about that.

01:08:55.720 Got a call.

01:08:56.980 To essentially pick one of the two to throw their congealed funding behind.

01:09:01.940 And that's not what you want, because they've already spent, I think, what was it, like

01:09:05.620 $68 million on Nikki Haley and about $59 million on Ron DeSantis?

01:09:09.780 The returns have been middling.

01:09:11.120 So Vivek is eating up a lot of support just by virtue of being out there and being visible.

01:09:16.940 But when Trump comes out there, it's...

01:09:19.440 Man, it's like going to a rock concert once again.

01:09:22.820 So I think that our operative goal, and this is just sort of my speculation here, I think

01:09:27.960 our ideal should be to create, you know, take out at least one or two of the establishment

01:09:35.320 choices, mainly not because, you know, Ron DeSantis may want to be that, but because, again,

01:09:40.720 he's beholden to his donors and Nikki Haley, she'll do whatever you tell her as long as

01:09:43.900 you say, hey, there's some MIC stonks waiting for you on the other end of it.

01:09:48.140 So, I mean, that's just the way I see.

01:09:50.260 But now the question I have for you guys is that, is there a way, given the fact that,

01:09:54.840 you know, a lot of infighting, a lot of egos and personalities and people who pretty

01:09:58.740 much want to be next to the king, so to speak, have kind of risen out of the crowd and are

01:10:04.460 now attacking, you know, people who might be tacitly, you know, kind of supporting what

01:10:08.140 Vivek says on its face, is there a possibility that we screw this up to where people are,

01:10:14.280 you know, people are kind of split even further or, because I recognize Alex Jones said, again,

01:10:20.780 we're going to need a massive coalition to pretty much brute force things and big 10th

01:10:25.480 approach, as we've seen already has an expiration date.

01:10:28.600 So are we looking at, you know, a big margin to screw this up to sort of, you know, amongst

01:10:33.780 the influencer class and on the ground?

01:10:35.580 I mean, I think Roger Stone's probably the expert to answer this.

01:10:38.140 Yeah, I would, I would actually defer, Roger, are you, I don't know if Roger, I know he's

01:10:41.360 muted, but Roger, are you still there?

01:10:43.700 Because I'd love to get your, your sense of, of how some of these things will shake up.

01:10:49.180 Vivek, this, this, this movement that he's put together, but then also the, on the, on

01:10:55.300 the other question about whether or not Haley continues and, and DeSantis' support switches

01:11:00.520 to her, Roger may have stepped away, just FYI.

01:11:05.520 But I do think, you know, I do think that, well, I'm with you, I'm sorry, my mic had switched

01:11:11.680 off, I apologize.

01:11:13.140 So I, it's very important to analyze this data, and here's what you learn.

01:11:17.660 The DeSantis voter outside of New Hampshire, their second choice is overwhelmingly Donald

01:11:24.520 Trump, that's because DeSantis has presented himself as an America first candidate.

01:11:30.080 Now, I don't think that's what he really is, but that's how he has tried to kind of formulate

01:11:35.920 his image.

01:11:37.080 We know at the same time that Chris Christie, who, while he wasn't getting many votes nationally,

01:11:42.180 had gotten as high as 12% in New Hampshire.

01:11:46.220 Those votes go almost completely en masse to Nikki Haley.

01:11:51.000 What you don't want is the kind of situation we had in 1980, where Reagan already had enough

01:11:56.900 votes to be nominated, but because Bush still had money in the bank, because he had very

01:12:01.860 wealthy globalist donors, he stayed in the contest long past the point that he had any

01:12:07.260 prospect of victory, which began to hurt Reagan.

01:12:10.620 And actually, Bush was spending money in late primaries when Reagan was out of money and won

01:12:18.240 some last minute pyrrhic, but insignificant victories in terms of the nomination.

01:12:24.380 We need this to be over quickly.

01:12:26.580 The fast collapse of DeSantis aids Trump.

01:12:31.440 The collapse ultimately of Vivek, although I think it's a smaller number of votes, also

01:12:37.440 those votes moved to Trump.

01:12:39.480 Nikki Haley will stay in as long as she has cash in the bank, although I frankly think you

01:12:45.580 end her prospects in South Carolina, where Henry McMaster, the governor of South Carolina,

01:12:51.920 is one of the original Trump supporters.

01:12:57.560 He is no fan of his.

01:12:59.420 He was lieutenant governor under Nikki Haley.

01:13:01.860 Nikki Haley is going to get crushed in her home state, and I think that will finally be

01:13:06.280 the end of her candidacy.

01:13:07.540 But she won't fold her tent after, even if she gets beat in New Hampshire, she will try

01:13:15.380 to hang on and pull out a victory in her home state, which I think will not happen.

01:13:19.880 The sooner that the Republicans can coalesce around Trump, the better.

01:13:26.480 But let's also recognize, and I say this as a former young Republican national chairman and

01:13:32.680 someone with a deep sentimental attachment to the Republican Party of Lincoln and Eisenhower

01:13:38.180 and Nixon and Reagan and Trump, this is not about party.

01:13:42.660 This is about the insiders and the outsiders.

01:13:45.320 Someone spoke early about those who wrote on Trump's coattails.

01:13:49.300 This was one of the misimpressions.

01:13:52.620 Party means nothing.

01:13:54.160 You're either part of the uniparty establishment.

01:13:56.840 You might be wearing a Republican jersey, but that doesn't mean you're loyal to Donald Trump.

01:14:00.860 So let's recognize that we have to build a broader coalition that gets beyond the Republican

01:14:07.140 Party.

01:14:07.640 That's the whole point of Donald Trump.

01:14:09.620 Trump, unlike Mitt Romney, unlike John McCain, there are voters out there who are Trump voters.

01:14:16.520 They're not Republicans.

01:14:16.860 By the way, Roger, let me just throw something in and get your take on this.

01:14:20.060 I agree.

01:14:20.940 Trump should run against the Republican Party establishment and the Democrats, which he really

01:14:25.520 is.

01:14:25.860 That's why they hate him as the populist.

01:14:27.900 He should be nonpartisan, especially in the general election, and flamethrow the whole

01:14:33.340 thing, call him all out.

01:14:35.040 I think that's what's unstoppable.

01:14:36.860 That's why he's so powerful.

01:14:38.180 The indictments show he's the outsider.

01:14:40.540 He needs to really lean into that.

01:14:42.840 I could not agree more.

01:14:44.440 You're absolutely right.

01:14:45.720 He runs against the permanent political establishment in Washington.

01:14:51.180 And what Jack said is absolutely true.

01:14:53.140 Watch the messaging.

01:14:54.040 Notice how they're the ones trying to destroy democracy, but they claim that we are the threat

01:15:00.180 to democracy.

01:15:01.240 They're the ones who are weaponizing the justice system, trying to lock up their chief political

01:15:05.800 opponent.

01:15:06.600 But we're the ones who are going to abuse the Justice Department if Trump is elected.

01:15:11.120 And let me lead to this, and then I'm going to mute this, and I might come back.

01:15:13.980 I'll stay here for an hour, but I'm going to listen.

01:15:15.640 I've got to turn this off, or I'll keep commenting.

01:15:17.660 Roger, we've gotten General Flynn's expertise.

01:15:19.480 We've gotten Jack's expertise.

01:15:20.500 There's a lot of other great people and journalists there that I want to go to, like Churchill and

01:15:25.480 all of them that I see right there, a lot of amazing people, Maria Z, so many others that

01:15:29.360 I know and those that I don't know.

01:15:30.900 But, Roger, they're full-on Trump's a dictator, but then they're trying to set up the totalitarian

01:15:36.080 system to take over the military with a bill headed up by Blumenthal ahead of time saying

01:15:42.360 he's going to stop Black Lives Matter.

01:15:43.880 They've just telegraphed their whole plan, I think, even before he wins the election

01:15:49.660 to try to trigger something this summer, much worse than 2020.

01:15:53.120 What do you say?

01:15:53.980 I think that's entirely possible.

01:15:55.660 Look, everybody on this call understands an act of Congress cannot undo the Constitution.

01:16:01.020 We have a constitutional system where the president is the commander of chief.

01:16:04.940 They can pass a bill all they want.

01:16:06.860 Such a bill would be unconstitutional.

01:16:08.840 Such an act would be treasonous.

01:16:10.620 And, of course, they go to Dick Blumenthal, the great Vietnam War hero who lied about

01:16:15.740 his service to his country, to lead this particular thing.

01:16:20.000 They are very adept at grabbing the narrative.

01:16:23.940 Everything they accuse us is of exactly what they themselves are doing.

01:16:28.380 We can never forget that, and we have to turn that around on them.

01:16:31.920 You see, Trump has been very effective about this.

01:16:34.120 He keeps pointing out it's Joe Biden who is a threat to democracy.

01:16:37.080 It is Joe Biden who is a threat to our democratic freedoms.

01:16:40.620 But we have been very good about this, and I think Trump is really – I thought that

01:16:46.720 town hall with Fox, even with Brett Baier, who's a wise-ass, I thought Trump was in the

01:16:52.880 greatest form he's ever been.

01:16:55.060 Now, he's a clutch guy.

01:16:58.300 Let me ask you this, then.

01:16:59.760 Why not go ahead and get ahead of this and say they're going to remove Joe Biden ahead

01:17:04.880 or during the DNC in July?

01:17:06.860 Why not start going after Newsom and Big Mike now?

01:17:10.860 Trump has already begun saying that he does – that he – unfortunately, he thinks he's

01:17:14.820 not going to be running against Biden.

01:17:16.680 That's a major shift.

01:17:18.260 Obviously, he'd prefer to run against Biden.

01:17:21.220 And then one of the classic moves of all time, Trump announcing that he's already decided

01:17:26.120 on his vice president.

01:17:27.560 He's just not going to tell us who it is.

01:17:29.520 That is classic Trump grabbing the narrative, controlling narrative.

01:17:33.340 If he's selected a vice president, maybe he has.

01:17:36.280 I don't know.

01:17:36.820 He hasn't told me.

01:17:37.800 But my guess is that is just Trump showmanship.

01:17:41.140 He knows he doesn't have to make that decision until July.

01:17:45.000 And if he has decided who that is, trust me, he shared it with no one.

01:17:50.720 No one.

01:17:51.780 That will be a crucial decision, by the way, because this is maybe the only election where

01:17:57.560 it is essential that he selects someone who brings something we don't already have.

01:18:02.660 There's a lot of great people have been mentioned who I like, who I think are great leaders,

01:18:06.680 great conservatives, great Republicans, but they only get you votes that we already have.

01:18:11.280 We need somebody who has –

01:18:12.000 Or someone, or someone they're even more afraid of than Trump.

01:18:14.860 Who would that be?

01:18:17.040 Well, I think that remains to be seen.

01:18:19.180 I'd like to see some creativity.

01:18:20.560 In other words, I like – personally, just speaking for myself, I like the idea of a

01:18:25.640 Donald Trump-Telsey Gabbard ticket.

01:18:28.800 Telsey Gabbard, an Iraq combat veteran, a major general in the U.S. Army Reserve, a championship

01:18:36.160 surfer, a former UFC fighter, a former member of Congress, a former Democrat, now an independent,

01:18:43.740 someone who crushed Kamala Harris in the debates.

01:18:47.120 Now, it would be incumbent on Telsey to become a Republican.

01:18:51.060 That's actually legally required in about 30 states.

01:18:53.740 On the surface, I love that.

01:18:54.200 Well, real fast.

01:18:55.240 I hate to be – I mean, Jack, you jump in.

01:18:57.140 But what does Jack – what does General Flynn think of a Telsey Gabbard?

01:19:00.240 Well, I do know that Telsey Gabbard at one point, for those who remember, and General

01:19:05.400 Flynn obviously was on the transition team, so I'm sure he knows this, at one point was

01:19:09.540 in the consideration, because he was a Congresswoman at the time, for the U.N.

01:19:14.660 a Republican ambassador for Trump in his first term.

01:19:18.540 I supported that wholeheartedly, and as we know, of course, eventually that role went

01:19:23.060 to none other than Nikki Haley went to Birdbrain.

01:19:26.540 And so I think that – I think that Telsey should have been given that the first time

01:19:29.740 around.

01:19:30.420 I'd love to see her involved.

01:19:31.960 I don't know – I haven't thought about her on the ticket, though I can certainly see

01:19:36.600 the – I can certainly see the appeal for a number of reasons, though I do wonder if her

01:19:41.960 stances on some of the progressive issues, some of the social issues might be crosswise

01:19:46.420 a little bit.

01:19:47.180 I don't know.

01:19:47.460 There's pros and cons, but I think it would be – certainly be outside of the box and

01:19:52.060 generate a lot of discussion, that's for sure.

01:19:55.300 Now, I just throw it out there as kind of a – I'm trying to think outside the box.

01:19:58.780 Now, I must be – I have to admit to you, I, for example, don't know where she stands

01:20:02.380 on the issue of abortion.

01:20:04.540 I'm completely unfamiliar.

01:20:05.960 Well, you come over towards us, but she's been pro-abortion.

01:20:08.220 Roger, who else will be good?

01:20:09.400 It gets tough after that.

01:20:12.940 I mean, look, there's a lot of good people being mentioned.

01:20:15.460 I want to point out that I speak only for myself.

01:20:18.060 I'm not speaking for anybody but myself, but we need somebody who appeals to millennials.

01:20:22.700 We need somebody who appeals to Hispanic voters.

01:20:24.920 We need somebody who can appeal to African-American people.

01:20:27.760 But we also need people – we need someone who understands the evil of the war machine

01:20:33.580 and the deep state.

01:20:35.060 She qualifies, and that is the single most important quality.

01:20:38.720 I would throw out – this is the one, and I've been saying it since 2022,

01:20:42.800 and it recently kind of resurfaced a little bit this week.

01:20:45.960 General Flynn.

01:20:47.100 General Flynn.

01:20:49.300 No, we are – that's our Secretary of Defense, Alex, who are you talking about?

01:20:52.060 No, I was going to say, I've actually thrown out Rand Paul's name for many of the reasons

01:20:56.660 that Roger just mentioned.

01:20:59.020 Now you get Rand Paul's kind of in the mix and a lot of his ideas, which certainly in

01:21:03.420 his movement, which certainly a lot of that, I think, infused the MAGA movement in 2016

01:21:08.760 and continues to infuse the MAGA movement.

01:21:11.280 But really, a lot of those ideas of being someone who's not beholden to the military-industrial

01:21:15.620 complex, someone who does understand the importance of the national security state.

01:21:19.480 And I've not discussed this with any of his staff or anything, and I've talked to him,

01:21:24.720 had him on the show a number of times.

01:21:26.000 I think that would be an outside-of-the-box choice.

01:21:28.520 I really do.

01:21:29.220 What does General Flynn think?

01:21:31.180 Well, number one, in terms of Tulsi Gabbard, I know her.

01:21:35.880 I got to know her.

01:21:36.820 I haven't talked to her in a long time.

01:21:38.960 I knew her fairly well when I did know her.

01:21:42.680 And she's a major, not a major general in the reserves.

01:21:46.320 I am not a fan.

01:21:47.500 And I think if people like what we're learning about Ramaswamy, anybody that digs deep into

01:21:53.460 him, if you dig deep into Tulsi, you'll find that she's not going to, she's not the type

01:22:00.260 of person that you'd want in a vice presidency, especially right now.

01:22:05.960 Who do you think, General?

01:22:06.460 You know what?

01:22:06.900 I think it's way, way too early to speculate.

01:22:10.260 I mean, we can speculate all night here.

01:22:12.380 I made a statement the other day about Ben Carson.

01:22:15.080 I thought Ben Carson, but I think it's just way too early to speculate.

01:22:18.520 I think another time we do another one of these, we can talk about the conventions because

01:22:22.600 the conventions have a whole other personality of what can take place.

01:22:27.420 I mean, if people forget the 2016 convention for the Republican one, even though Trump was

01:22:32.580 the clear hands down winner of the primaries, Ted Cruz still went to the convention thinking

01:22:38.800 he was going to pull off an upset.

01:22:41.400 So don't think that this thing is-

01:22:42.960 Remember, vote your conscience.

01:22:44.240 Remember, vote your conscience is what Cruz says.

01:22:46.360 And the crowd almost rose up and tore him off the stage.

01:22:51.920 Yeah.

01:22:52.240 Were it not for Donald Trump coming from backstage to kind of-

01:22:56.240 I mean, I think it's too early to speculate.

01:22:58.360 I do think that Trump needs to be thinking about 12 years and not just four years, but he also

01:23:04.740 has to have somebody who is going to- that he can turn to and understands what is happening

01:23:11.560 and understands our government and understands, you know, what is going on around the world

01:23:15.680 and, of course, domestically, and will be not only loyal to him, but also loyal to this

01:23:20.540 country, unlike the last vice president that he had.

01:23:24.320 And I'll leave it at that.

01:23:25.280 Right here on that, I did see that we have Z Media who came in and Alex, you had just

01:23:31.540 shouted her out.

01:23:32.300 So I'd love to get you on.

01:23:34.320 Great.

01:23:34.780 Thank you so much, Jack.

01:23:36.060 And thank you for holding this space.

01:23:37.620 It's so, so vital.

01:23:39.100 The whole world is watching American politics this year.

01:23:43.100 And let me tell you, from an international perspective, I can- I mean, I can tell you how

01:23:47.660 important it is, even for Australians.

01:23:49.580 You guys have always been, and in my humble opinion, are still the leaders of the Western

01:23:55.000 world, the free Western world.

01:23:57.240 I think that it's interesting.

01:23:59.820 I watched, you know, the view saying recently that Trump is going to put everyone in camps.

01:24:04.700 These people are always projecting what, you know, what they actually want to do onto the

01:24:11.740 other side.

01:24:12.480 And we've been-

01:24:13.000 Well, in Australia, you guys actually had COVID camps, didn't you?

01:24:16.060 We absolutely did.

01:24:17.040 We had people being put into camps who were not sick, who were just simply not complying.

01:24:22.440 We had the military going and taking Aboriginal communities against their will into camps.

01:24:27.920 They escaped.

01:24:29.040 Their manhunt was televised on national TV.

01:24:31.980 I mean, it was absolute insanity.

01:24:33.540 And so, when I think of President Trump, I highly doubt that he'd be doing anything like

01:24:39.500 the insane totalitarian measures we experienced here in Australia.

01:24:43.920 But, you know, spending some time recently in the US, I was there travelling late last year

01:24:49.640 in August, and I went to the Reawaken America tour, spent some time with General Flynn, who's

01:24:55.900 a wonderful man, some time with the Infowars crew.

01:24:58.280 But most importantly, I spent time with the patriots that were there for the Reawaken America

01:25:04.060 tour, who genuinely love their country, and I think are some of the most uncompromising

01:25:10.220 people I've met in my life.

01:25:12.240 And I want to tell you that internationally, this is how we view the American people.

01:25:16.520 Someone was talking before, two people were talking about how there's division, and, you

01:25:22.020 know, these are tactics that are deployed by these globalists who don't want President

01:25:26.420 Trump to win.

01:25:27.100 That is undeniable.

01:25:28.740 The attacks on him are ridiculous.

01:25:31.860 I saw, Jack, what you posted this morning, Fanny Willis saying that, you know, basically

01:25:38.760 because she's black, she's allowed to make mistakes.

01:25:41.620 I mean, your skin colour has nothing to do with your...

01:25:47.620 It's not an excuse for your actions.

01:25:49.260 The quality of your character is more important.

01:25:51.640 And I think that when I witness what's happening in America, and I see that people are realising

01:25:56.840 we don't want these race wars.

01:25:58.540 We don't want this madness anymore.

01:26:00.560 I've been speaking to normies here in Australia who are, even they're saying, we think Trump's

01:26:05.360 going to be the guy.

01:26:06.600 They're realising that all of these tactics that have been deployed by the media, by the

01:26:12.100 Democratic Party, are actually harming the country.

01:26:15.140 And so when I just really want to encourage the American people and the patriots there that

01:26:22.040 what you do and the front, the unified front that you show the world right now is encouraging

01:26:28.460 all of us because we recognise how important this election is.

01:26:32.820 And they desperately don't want it to go ahead.

01:26:35.340 I just want to say, on the camps quickly, Kathy Hochul fought for these quarantine camps

01:26:40.860 to continue in New York.

01:26:42.580 And even though Bobby Ann Cox defeated it initially, Kathy Hochul appealed it.

01:26:48.440 And so now they're going to the last stage to finally remove these quarantine camps.

01:26:52.940 Why is a governor fighting so hard after COVID?

01:26:56.440 COVID's done.

01:26:57.440 Fighting so hard to keep these camps going.

01:26:59.840 It is madness.

01:27:01.280 The same Hochul that went and signed into law liquefying human corpses for compost.

01:27:06.280 I mean, these people are maniacs.

01:27:08.720 And so the person that you need to lead your country is someone who understands how insane

01:27:14.000 these people are.

01:27:14.940 And from what I can see, President Trump, the only one that has consistently called out

01:27:20.140 the deep state, consistently called out the cabal.

01:27:22.400 Well, that's right, Maria.

01:27:23.140 And just to throw this in, what you say is so important.

01:27:26.480 America has shot up and has a lot of problems.

01:27:28.620 But we're the best house in a bad neighborhood.

01:27:31.260 And this is a global WF that General Flynn talks about so much, a WF New World Order attack.

01:27:37.320 And that's why, whether you're in Europe or whether you're in Africa or whether you're

01:27:41.720 in the Pacific Ocean where you're at, we are all in this together.

01:27:44.840 And so people have to realize what happens to Australia or happens to Canadian truckers,

01:27:49.160 you know, what happens to people all over the world is the same global enemy.

01:27:53.460 And I think that's their real weakness.

01:27:54.580 The fact they admit it.

01:27:55.240 The fact that we're identifying this New World Order WF BlackRock Combine is why we're winning.

01:28:02.020 And Trump's already doing a good job at this.

01:28:04.280 But if he completely comes out and says, I'm going to restore the American Republic under

01:28:09.300 America.

01:28:09.760 I'm going to pull us out of the New World Order.

01:28:11.380 I'm going to pull us out of the UN.

01:28:12.560 And that's what people are looking for.

01:28:15.260 I agree with you, Alex.

01:28:16.620 And if I can add that, you know, he's the only one that I've heard.

01:28:19.880 There are two bills at the moment in the United States.

01:28:22.960 I've reported on them extensively that are aiming to exit one in the House and one in

01:28:28.520 the Senate, aiming to exit the UN and the WHO completely.

01:28:32.160 President Trump has said if he's elected, he will exit the World Health Organization.

01:28:36.520 I want to tell you recently, I spoke to a former Australian politician who's a good

01:28:40.020 man.

01:28:40.640 And I said, I want to exit the WHO and I want to lead this movement in Australia.

01:28:44.320 It's happening worldwide.

01:28:45.620 We need it everywhere.

01:28:46.640 And he said, it's not going to happen until America does it first.

01:28:50.740 And so whilst I don't accept that, I'm going to push for it.

01:28:53.640 But I understand that sentiment that the whole Western world will follow what America does.

01:28:58.940 It was the globalist hijacked America created the UN.

01:29:02.580 It was born here.

01:29:03.500 It's got to die here.

01:29:04.260 And maybe Jack or General Flynn or any of you guys can comment on this.

01:29:07.280 But we need a Brexit.

01:29:09.160 But the average American doesn't know we're in the new world order.

01:29:11.820 They're starting to learn it.

01:29:13.040 If Trump makes it about bringing up what he's doing, because that's the reality, Americans

01:29:18.180 are going to say, no, I don't want to be under China's control or BlackRock's control.

01:29:22.160 And remember, they're rolling it out tomorrow, Alex.

01:29:24.880 That's when the World Economic Forum's meeting in Davos.

01:29:27.500 Because they've already said Klaus Schwab is going out there.

01:29:30.000 He's been doing this hit down with Zelensky.

01:29:32.200 They've already said they're already discussing the next bioweapon pandemic, whatever you want

01:29:38.440 to call it.

01:29:39.060 They're saying we must be prepared.

01:29:40.820 They're calling it Disease X.

01:29:43.060 And then in Geneva, myself and Norbin Laden, who's come on and we've done reporting, we're

01:29:48.400 talking about this treaty, a global pandemic treaty, which you absolutely not can be part

01:29:55.360 of, because what that will do is, as you're saying, Zeb, is it gives our sovereignty over

01:30:01.360 our own medical state to a globalist-controlled entity at the WHO.

01:30:07.420 Well, that's right.

01:30:07.680 What does the WF say their two top agendas are?

01:30:10.380 Censoring speech and setting up the UN over our health care.

01:30:14.880 This is a coup.

01:30:16.220 And I think if we just spell that out, we win.

01:30:18.200 Look, Jack, you're absolutely right.

01:30:21.620 The initial meetings that the World Health Assembly held, I've been reporting on this

01:30:26.120 extensively for the past two years.

01:30:28.300 Dr. Tess Laurie, who is a phenomenal doctor, pro-freedom, pro-actual health, not one health,

01:30:35.660 which is a ridiculous term that you would apply the same approach to every single person

01:30:40.180 through their global health certification network, which, by the way, the WHO is ready

01:30:44.460 to go ahead with, you know, every single person has to continuously be injected to their eyeballs

01:30:50.320 in order to participate in society.

01:30:52.660 They are ready for this system.

01:30:54.700 And Dr. Tess Laurie was in that initial meeting of February 2022, where they said in future

01:31:00.380 they will have forced vaccinations and punishments for any country that does not comply.

01:31:04.540 In the initial publication of the International Health Regulations Amendments, the WHO said that

01:31:09.600 all future pandemic considerations will be made without the respect for human rights,

01:31:15.560 fundamental freedoms and dignity.

01:31:17.780 Dignity.

01:31:18.360 They will not consider your dignity.

01:31:19.980 Now, they've since pulled back on this, but who in their right mind, what kind of a maniac

01:31:24.240 would publish that in the first place?

01:31:26.960 And so we're seeing a lot of pushback from countries.

01:31:29.720 No one wants this stuff.

01:31:31.260 Again, back on, you know, this is about, we were talking about President Trump.

01:31:34.520 He said, if I'm elected, I'll pull the US out of the World Health Organization.

01:31:38.400 I would tell people, don't wait until then, because the finalization of the International

01:31:43.380 Health Regulations is happening in May, and then every country is kind of locked in.

01:31:47.780 So support the two bills.

01:31:49.160 I'll put them up on, right after we're done with this space, I'll put them up on my X

01:31:53.700 page, the two bills that you can support right now.

01:31:57.980 Exit now.

01:31:59.540 Exit now.

01:32:00.480 But we need people who are bringing attention to this.

01:32:03.600 And I think, Alex, Trump has hinted that he's going to hold the pharmaceutical companies

01:32:08.320 accountable.

01:32:09.320 I think he needs to be a lot more open, as you're suggesting.

01:32:12.300 Absolutely.

01:32:13.000 No, you're right.

01:32:13.540 Trump's moving in the right direction.

01:32:15.380 Trump's moving in the right direction.

01:32:16.460 But here's what General Flynn said earlier.

01:32:18.180 We've got to have more of these war games.

01:32:20.040 This is really important.

01:32:21.740 Yeah.

01:32:22.580 Thank you, guys.

01:32:23.760 Well, and let me just jump in.

01:32:26.100 Let me jump in, because I know we're trying to, you know, we come out here to talk about

01:32:29.060 Iowa.

01:32:30.300 But all this matters.

01:32:31.460 All of these things are connected.

01:32:33.580 And we have got to understand that until we get, you know, sane, some sanity back in

01:32:41.740 charge of our constitution here, our constitutional republic, we, you know, all these bills, all

01:32:48.980 these things, because there's a couple of bills on the table right now.

01:32:52.060 Jack mentioned this disease X thing.

01:32:54.400 I mean, there's a couple of things that are in play that they will go nowhere right now.

01:32:58.640 I mean, if you really want to understand where we're at, because what's their playbook, you

01:33:03.260 know, all you got to do is go back and study the Bolshevik revolution of the 1920s.

01:33:07.460 I mean, they are replaying this 100 years later.

01:33:10.300 So we can call these people, you know, maniacs, lunatics, psychopaths, you know, and I've done

01:33:16.160 all that because to a degree, I have, you know, spent time fighting some of these people

01:33:23.120 literally in overseas battlefields.

01:33:26.500 But now we're looking at a, at a different field.

01:33:29.580 We're looking at a different type of, of, uh, of war, you know, I've written a damn book

01:33:34.260 on it, fifth generation warfare, and, and they hold levers of power.

01:33:38.700 And until we get back into those levers of power and, and possess those, we have got to

01:33:43.680 speak up.

01:33:44.680 We've got to, you know, stand our ground.

01:33:46.680 And so I, I agree with what you're saying that we've got to raise our voices and make

01:33:52.220 sure that we get some people behind us.

01:33:54.440 But the God dang speaker of our own house, who's a, who's a Republican, who we got rid

01:33:59.040 of the last bomb and we, we get a new bomb and speaker Johnson, I don't care what people

01:34:04.000 think of him.

01:34:04.500 This thing, first thing he did was he gave, he gave millions, billions of dollars to

01:34:09.440 Ukraine to protect their, their damn border.

01:34:11.880 You can look at him.

01:34:13.100 He's an operative.

01:34:14.740 Yeah.

01:34:15.160 So, so yes, this is the world economic forum.

01:34:17.800 Yes.

01:34:18.020 This is a globalist takeover of the world.

01:34:21.280 All of these organizations, most people that even on this space don't know, you know, the

01:34:26.000 the world health organization, world trade, world bank, the IMF, the UN, the EU, none

01:34:31.760 of these people are elected by their, by their constituents.

01:34:34.780 These are all appointed positions.

01:34:36.320 These are all private organizations for Christ's sakes.

01:34:38.440 So what matters is we, we have to win, we have to get people out.

01:34:43.740 And I mean this, I mean, this is the, this is back to the basics.

01:34:46.440 We have got to overwhelm the system when we overwhelm the system in the primaries, Trump

01:34:51.640 will have much more sort of referent authority to be able to speak out against all of these

01:34:57.260 things.

01:34:58.000 Believe me, we put in front of him not too long ago, the whole thing about the world economic

01:35:02.840 forum and their plan and their direction that they were taking.

01:35:05.200 He fully understands this and he knows what he's up against and he knows what he's got

01:35:09.560 to do.

01:35:10.740 Come, come, uh, I think March 6th, which is when it'll all be said and done.

01:35:15.300 It doesn't mean that somebody like, you know, an Eagle, like Nikki Haley is going to step

01:35:18.980 down, but that doesn't matter.

01:35:20.620 We're going to, we're going to go into a dead sprint toward November.

01:35:24.440 And again, I, I, I say out one side of my mouth, whether or not we're going to have

01:35:28.300 it, uh, because I just don't believe that these people, uh, general, can I stop you?

01:35:33.820 Please don't want to hear what you wrap your expertise on this.

01:35:36.600 I agree with you just because they're panicking with a plan B to remove the military control

01:35:41.100 from him, which is crazy.

01:35:42.300 I agree.

01:35:43.120 We should be working with you and Roger and Jack and all these people right now.

01:35:46.520 How, how, how, how can they grab victory from the jaws of defeat?

01:35:50.340 Cause you know, they're going to try it.

01:35:51.360 Yeah.

01:35:52.060 I mean, you know, I mean, there's a lot of things that are, there's a lot in play that

01:35:56.840 that are, is going to occur over the next couple of months here, nevermind the, the end of the

01:36:01.660 primaries and going into the, into the summertime of, you know, the conventions.

01:36:05.680 I mean, Klaus Schwab stood up to, I think two months ago and said, you know, we have to

01:36:10.720 prepare for a global, I think he said in his words, global cyber event.

01:36:15.380 And I mean, these people are serious when they say these things, you know, this, this new

01:36:19.940 disease X thing that we're hearing them talk about planning for.

01:36:23.940 So, and, and, and, and we haven't even touched on the economic shift that we are going to

01:36:28.560 go through with this new global Alliance, what we call the BRICS plus.

01:36:33.260 And the BRICS plus is now plus 20 other nations that represent about 75% of the global population.

01:36:40.580 So whenever you hear this administration or the, the, the, the, the yard bird in, in Tony

01:36:46.760 Blinken, the secretary of state talking about the Alliance is strong.

01:36:50.760 Our, you know, the, the Alliance of partners that we brought together against Russia is

01:36:54.380 strong.

01:36:54.780 That's total bullshit.

01:36:56.560 It's total bullshit.

01:36:57.380 Can I ask you a question just selfishly here?

01:36:59.420 Cause I, when Trump came in, they told everybody for decades, businesses had opened here.

01:37:05.960 Trillions and trillions and trillions flooded back.

01:37:08.500 We turned on like a house that has electricity turned off, turning back on.

01:37:12.140 Um, so the globalists on one hand are selling us out to foreign powers, trying to stop the

01:37:16.900 BRICS, but they engaged in every policy to, to push the BRICS.

01:37:21.420 So it looks to me like they are the Russian Chinese agents, Chinese agents mainly.

01:37:25.560 I mean, cause clearly they claim Trump's the Russian agent.

01:37:29.780 Trump strengthened the dollar, strengthened our businesses, made us the biggest energy exporter

01:37:34.220 overnight.

01:37:35.740 And this is all policy.

01:37:37.000 While we still have the power, we can keep this reserve currency position.

01:37:41.120 And clearly Trump's the answer.

01:37:43.440 Why would the establishment want to destroy the American power they control?

01:37:48.280 Yeah, it's because, because it gives it actually, in a, in a funny way, it gives them more power.

01:37:53.820 So it's not about destroying what we have.

01:37:56.880 It's about destroying the system that we have.

01:37:59.420 What they want is they want access to the resources that this country has.

01:38:04.300 And this re this country has an abundance of resources for many, many years.

01:38:08.360 You know what we hear from the left.

01:38:09.700 They want to collapse us down to third world status so they can use our military to still

01:38:14.600 dominate the world, but also exploit us.

01:38:16.780 Exactly.

01:38:17.320 And also, you know, don't, don't discount their, their plans for some of these military

01:38:21.420 age males that they're bringing into this country.

01:38:23.240 But, you know, one of the things that I'd like to just bring out is that, you know, they, they

01:38:28.020 will beat up Trump for Russia and they'll talk about Russia as the boogeyman because they got to

01:38:33.080 have a boogeyman.

01:38:34.000 But who they're kowtowing to are the Chinese and the Chinese and Russia are hand in glove.

01:38:40.020 So don't, don't think for a second that we're not being, I mean, we are being so played and

01:38:46.240 we're being played by people like Obama.

01:38:49.000 We're being not, not by people like Biden.

01:38:51.120 Biden is a complete puppet, but the Biden, but the Obama administration, remember all

01:38:56.120 the times Obama would walk around at press conferences or get off Air Force One with that

01:39:00.400 book about the end of American power.

01:39:02.020 Oh yeah.

01:39:02.760 Yeah.

01:39:03.340 Yeah.

01:39:03.740 So, so I want people to understand that there is a much, much bigger play in, in, in place

01:39:10.340 here.

01:39:11.140 And these are not, these are not dumb people either.

01:39:14.040 And they, and they do have a plan and they are well organized because they're not all

01:39:17.240 that big.

01:39:17.700 Then there's not a lot of them.

01:39:19.120 The globalist elite, as we call them, you know, there's a, there, they are organized

01:39:24.100 and they, their organizing function is around the world economic forum, although there's

01:39:28.880 people above the world economic forum, but they're, but that's how they're

01:39:32.000 organized themselves.

01:39:33.140 What we are going to have to do in America.

01:39:34.700 And they fear, they fear, you know, that, that woman who was on earlier, the mom there

01:39:38.980 who was out selling candy canes.

01:39:41.320 That's what they fear.

01:39:42.640 And there's millions, millions of us.

01:39:45.200 And all we have to do.

01:39:46.000 Let me ask you this.

01:39:46.920 I know I'm done.

01:39:47.440 I just, I got you here.

01:39:48.440 I can't help it.

01:39:48.880 You're such a wealth of knowledge.

01:39:50.080 And I want to ask Jackie super Spartan and, and, and, and of course, Roger and everybody

01:39:53.540 else gets to other people, but talking to the intelligence agencies and the people in

01:39:58.360 the government, I'm not saying they're all bad.

01:39:59.960 A lot of them are good men and women.

01:40:00.860 Can't they see America's being destroyed right now?

01:40:03.880 What is your message to people on the fence, the whistleblowers and other people?

01:40:08.580 I mean, how critical are whistleblowers right now against this deep state?

01:40:11.960 They're hugely critical.

01:40:13.680 In fact, what we need is we need more whistleblowers.

01:40:16.120 And frankly, you know, in a lot of ways, especially with this latest letter by these, by these current

01:40:23.460 veterans that wrote this letter to the military, you know, we need more people to resign from

01:40:30.740 government.

01:40:31.140 We, I mean, I, I, I was in touch with a very, very senior person, uh, former, former, uh, you

01:40:37.260 know, uh, uh, uh, uh, homeland security, uh, in the last 48 hours and really pushing to

01:40:43.740 get people down in the, in the, in the, in the leadership roles in the, in places like

01:40:48.840 ICE and CBP and HSI and some of these others to resign.

01:40:52.980 I mean, these people should quit.

01:40:54.180 I mean, you can't stand there or sit there in a, in a position where you've taken an

01:40:59.080 oath of office and sit in the government and, and, and say, everything is fine.

01:41:03.640 I actually think that these people need to resign.

01:41:05.620 They need to resign.

01:41:06.580 There's plenty of, plenty of things to do.

01:41:08.660 And believe me, the American people would, would, will, will hold you up forever.

01:41:13.420 And, and it's so some of these people, I know they got families and I know they got all

01:41:17.140 kinds of issues in their lives, but, but now is a time to where we really do have to

01:41:22.680 stand up and, uh, and, and, and basically do the right thing.

01:41:27.340 And by the way, you've already done this.

01:41:28.640 You're not asking people to do something.

01:41:30.340 Exactly.

01:41:31.140 Exactly.

01:41:31.600 And I mean, I talk about, you know, I stay, I stay visible because if I don't, if I didn't

01:41:37.020 stay visible, I'd probably be swatted, you know, multiple times or worse.

01:41:41.560 And I've had plenty of threats against my life and my family's life.

01:41:44.840 So, so, I mean, that, this is, this is not where, where I'm at today is we have got

01:41:50.160 to get more people in our, in our government.

01:41:52.480 And I know that they're, they exist and a lot of them are afraid.

01:41:56.200 There's, there's many that are afraid.

01:41:57.620 And I, so that's why I applaud this, this, uh, group that of 231 that signed this really

01:42:02.880 great letter, uh, recently, uh, and, and, and, and I know that we're going to hear more

01:42:07.600 from them and we need to hear more like that from other.

01:42:10.640 Oh, that was a chain reaction.

01:42:12.500 Tens of thousands.

01:42:13.640 Yeah.

01:42:14.300 And, and we, we need it from everybody.

01:42:16.220 I want to, um, I want to just, uh, kind of keep the town hall format going, got a couple

01:42:21.420 of, uh, I'd say about 10, 10, 15 more minutes, keep it going.

01:42:24.480 People want to, but I know it's getting late for some folks and I told Brad, we do about

01:42:28.420 two, but we, we keep going if you want.

01:42:30.140 Well, this is historic.

01:42:30.980 I'll stay as long as you want.

01:42:32.160 And, and this is so real America's voice.

01:42:34.700 Won't let everybody know on the network.

01:42:36.900 We are going to be there on the ground in Iowa.

01:42:40.720 Um, the teams there on the ground, they were there with president Trump last night doing

01:42:44.340 his sort of impromptu town hall because the, you know, all the roads were crazy.

01:42:48.300 It's the brawl in the blizzard.

01:42:49.920 But look, when I say real America's voice, I mean that.

01:42:52.680 So I wanted to get up, uh, James Pennington here.

01:42:56.560 Uh, we called him up as a speaker.

01:42:58.440 He says that he says that I was in a room with God.

01:43:01.580 I wanted to, I wanted to ask what that meant, James.

01:43:04.080 Hi guys.

01:43:04.880 Hear me?

01:43:06.220 Yeah.

01:43:06.580 Uh, I had a drunk driver drive a car over my chest and front of about a hundred of my

01:43:11.680 friends and I died and they all watched me lay there and die.

01:43:15.780 So I experienced, uh, what was I experienced was for me.

01:43:20.540 I mean, it's hard to tell everybody else, but I learned that sacrifice is real.

01:43:26.360 That people die, soldiers die, firemen die.

01:43:30.140 You know, Jesus Christ, a man came and died for me.

01:43:34.960 That's what I learned from that experience without going into any detail.

01:43:38.380 So I lived through, through, I died and then came back and now I'm saving souls.

01:43:43.020 And I formed these two veteran bands.

01:43:45.880 They kind of showed me like little downloads, you know, uh, the, the good Lord.

01:43:50.580 And so over the years, they kind of show me here and there, like, this is what you're

01:43:55.280 doing.

01:43:55.520 This is what you've chosen to do.

01:43:56.820 And I agreed.

01:43:57.560 So I'm doing it.

01:43:58.720 Well, long story short in Lawrenceville, Illinois, Trevor Pennock was killed in

01:44:03.940 Afghanistan, June, 2012 at the funeral, uh, the general told us, took our family in a

01:44:11.560 room privately and told us, and this is when I learned how divided America is because until

01:44:15.520 that time I didn't know, they told us that 200 plus Democrats were flying in on airplanes

01:44:21.240 and to Vincennes, Indiana, where he's laid to rest next at the Indiana military museum to

01:44:27.440 protest, to say that Trevor died for nothing.

01:44:30.080 And his sergeant, I, I, our family, we were just like, what, why, why, you know, that's

01:44:37.100 so, and so I started, so now I have two veteran bands.

01:44:42.820 I play out every month.

01:44:44.200 I help save homeless veterans, senior citizen veterans who are suffering and struggling because

01:44:50.200 of the lousy job our current administration is doing.

01:44:53.760 And, uh, by the way, Trump, uh, I still have a federal lawsuit going on, so I can't talk

01:44:58.300 about it, but him and the first lady and Roger, I'm honored to be followed by you.

01:45:03.080 The him and the first lady helped save our special needs sons lives.

01:45:06.900 We're just regular folks, man.

01:45:08.700 They didn't have to do that.

01:45:10.480 And anybody that is saying things about them and making all these lies up about them, they

01:45:14.860 really have no idea.

01:45:16.500 Are you, are you talking about, are you referring to right to try?

01:45:18.660 Is that what you're talking about?

01:45:19.300 Uh, uh, no, that my, our sons were, uh, being, um, bullied.

01:45:25.300 And, uh, so we were writing congressmen, the news and their special needs.

01:45:29.580 And so they went through hell.

01:45:31.520 And so we were asking for help and, um, everybody, uh, helped us, the congressmen, uh, senators.

01:45:39.220 Uh, and then we wrote president Trump and the first lady.

01:45:42.080 Well, they gave us wonderful advice and told us what to do.

01:45:45.400 We still have the letters.

01:45:46.440 Uh, they took a personal interest and we're just regular Americans, man.

01:45:50.980 These are beautiful people for Roger.

01:45:53.280 Cause I know Roger's known Trump 45 years.

01:45:55.240 I don't know how Trump does all this outreach and helps all those people.

01:45:59.460 Nobody knows about like when I got married, I didn't even tell anybody.

01:46:02.840 We're remarried.

01:46:03.380 My second wife, Trump called on the wedding day and talked to my wife for 10 minutes.

01:46:07.600 I mean, I'm good about Trump.

01:46:09.700 He must spend like five hours a day, just helping people, being nice to people because I'm a busy

01:46:15.220 guy.

01:46:15.580 I don't know how Trump does.

01:46:18.220 I mean, look, Trump is, he's a, he doesn't want you to know this, but he's a very sentimental

01:46:24.720 guy.

01:46:25.800 Uh, and he really likes people.

01:46:28.180 In other words, and he likes regular people.

01:46:30.100 If you gave Donald Trump a choice between having dinner with a group of plumbers or a bunch of

01:46:36.480 taxicab drivers or a bunch of fortune 500 CEOs, he'd choose the former rather than the latter.

01:46:43.220 You can see it.

01:46:44.480 It is, it is rally.

01:46:46.120 She gets strength from people.

01:46:48.620 Uh, he is, uh, he's always handing out large tips.

01:46:51.840 He's a huge believer in tipper for service, a waiter, a doorman, a driver.

01:46:57.480 Uh, he's notorious for this.

01:46:59.800 Uh, and then long before he was in politics, there would just be random acts of kindness.

01:47:05.680 He would read about somebody who had misfortune.

01:47:08.600 He would have his people track them down.

01:47:10.460 He paid off a guy's mortgage that he read about who, who was in distress.

01:47:14.860 Uh, he flew a kid to a special surgeon, uh, an Orthodox Jewish kid to a special surgeon

01:47:20.820 in Los Angeles at his own expense.

01:47:23.140 I mean, he's a very philanthropic, caring guy, but that didn't fit the image of a cutthroat

01:47:30.440 real, you know, Manhattan real estate developer.

01:47:33.480 It's a side of him that many people don't know.

01:47:36.300 I mean, the thing about Trump is there's nothing pretentious.

01:47:39.800 There's nothing stiff.

01:47:41.320 There's nothing formal.

01:47:42.520 It's enormous fun to be with Donald Trump.

01:47:45.840 He's got, uh, he's got a self-deprecating sense of humor.

01:47:50.780 Uh, he's just, he's just a regular guy.

01:47:53.080 And let's face it, he loves a regular cheeseburger.

01:47:55.480 And that's why they hate him.

01:47:57.120 Yeah, because he, he's a true, actually, actually, Roger, did you see, uh, did you see

01:48:01.080 Michael Tracy's and, and he's, you know, he's a, he's a man of the left.

01:48:04.540 He's a, you know, kind of a liberal center, center left kind of guy.

01:48:08.100 And, uh, I don't want to put him in a box, but I mean to say he's not a, not a

01:48:10.900 conservative and, um, but he, he has done some reporting on Iowa and he found these

01:48:14.920 two, uh, 16 year olds and they said, they said they weren't even sure how the caucus

01:48:19.020 worked, but they just wanted to come because they, they liked Trump and they thought he

01:48:22.340 was funny.

01:48:24.100 Yeah.

01:48:24.500 I mean, he is, he is extraordinary.

01:48:25.960 And he's fun to be with it.

01:48:27.600 People don't, I think that he, you know, look, he's also tough as nails.

01:48:32.320 I mean, look, I worked for Richard Nixon.

01:48:34.540 He's a guy who clawed himself back from oblivion, political oblivion and staged the greatest

01:48:39.300 political comeback in American history.

01:48:41.240 I worked for Senator Bob Dole, a guy who was hit by a shell in world war II told that

01:48:46.100 he would never walk again, never have the use of his hands again, or, or who basically

01:48:51.340 clawed his way back to being a totally functional human being and would have been a great president.

01:48:56.480 By the way, those guys were very, very technical.

01:49:00.780 I think he got shot by a German machine gun like 14 times.

01:49:04.420 It was really extraordinary.

01:49:05.940 Actually, I think he was, he was wounded in Italy, I believe, but no, I saw the documentary

01:49:10.920 about it.

01:49:11.220 He got hit by 14 bullets from a German machine guns.

01:49:15.740 This is an extraordinary human being.

01:49:17.520 I worked for him as a staff assistant in the U S Senate for two years.

01:49:21.340 Uh, he was a great man.

01:49:23.080 He was one of the greatest men of the 20th century.

01:49:24.780 He would have been a great president, certainly preferable to George HW Bush.

01:49:29.900 So, uh, but the point is I knew both these guys, they were very tough guys.

01:49:33.720 Neither one of them nearly as tough or as resilient as Trump.

01:49:38.000 I don't know how Trump gets up every morning considering the weight of everything they're

01:49:42.680 trying against him, but he, he remains, as I said earlier, resilient, confident, good

01:49:48.720 humored, balanced, uh, funny, uh, determined.

01:49:54.420 And I guess confidence is the single most important thing.

01:49:57.480 Absolutely convinced that he will.

01:49:58.780 Well, you were telling me, Roger, you talk to him all the time.

01:50:00.940 He's the best you've ever seen him in 45 years.

01:50:03.500 I mean, he, like this guy just has incredible energy.

01:50:07.260 I wonder if we could talk to Liz Churchill.

01:50:09.520 She's huge on, huge on X lover.

01:50:13.960 Oh yeah.

01:50:14.420 Let me, uh, let me get her, get her up.

01:50:17.220 I have to sign her.

01:50:17.880 I've got Ben Geller here.

01:50:19.400 Let's go to Ben first.

01:50:20.420 Cause I've got him in the, in the queue and then I'll go and I'll, I'll bring up, I'll

01:50:24.880 bring up Liz.

01:50:25.460 Ben, how's it going, man?

01:50:27.260 Good, Jack.

01:50:27.920 It's nice to hear from you.

01:50:28.900 And it's nice to see, uh, my friend Roger and, uh, general Flynn and Alex.

01:50:33.660 And, uh, thanks to real America's voice and human events for putting this on.

01:50:38.160 I just wanted to touch, uh, real quick with the panel, a resounding, uh, uh, opinion is,

01:50:45.240 or really it's going to be fact tomorrow is obviously Donald G.

01:50:49.460 Trump's going to sweep Iowa and then he's going to go on to sweep, uh, New Hampshire.

01:50:53.960 And so I think I'm one of the only, uh, people currently serving or did serve in public office

01:51:01.120 in this space currently.

01:51:02.560 And I think it's really important to, um, tell the average, uh, Americans or the everyday

01:51:08.520 Americans that are listening at home is the fight is not over after the primaries guys.

01:51:14.520 We need to, uh, really dig in.

01:51:17.200 And so, um, I would really just encourage people when, uh, we're done with a primary

01:51:22.760 is go to DonaldJTrump.com or meet up with your local precinct and, or if there's even

01:51:29.400 an open seat for you to run locally for office, do it.

01:51:32.580 Because when you run for office at the, if you want to run for council or your state legislature

01:51:38.100 or whatever, you're going to be bringing people to the polls to vote for Donald J.

01:51:42.360 Trump.

01:51:42.840 And so I would just encourage people to get involved.

01:51:45.340 Um, I think that's a huge piece, excuse me, piece because the RNC is not coming to save

01:51:51.280 us.

01:51:51.900 And, uh, it's just super important for, um, everyday Americans to do what they can.

01:51:57.920 Uh, raising money is important, but, uh, putting in that work is just really, um, there's

01:52:04.820 price priceless.

01:52:05.720 No, a hundred percent.

01:52:06.540 A hundred percent.

01:52:06.980 Look, this is only going to work if we get on the ground and, and it's what, what, uh,

01:52:11.280 the general's talking about.

01:52:12.320 It's what Roger was talking about, that if you're not putting in the time, if you're not

01:52:15.100 putting in the hours, look, Alex Jones says he's going to go door to door, folks.

01:52:18.140 You heard it here tonight.

01:52:19.420 We've got them on audio.

01:52:20.780 My team is recording this, Alex, that, that is a verbal contract, which is a commitment

01:52:25.200 in the state of Texas.

01:52:26.640 I'm ready to go right now.

01:52:27.960 My issue is in Texas, we take it for granted.

01:52:30.000 We're red.

01:52:30.460 I agree.

01:52:30.720 We're almost purple.

01:52:31.820 I'm ready to, I'm ready to go.

01:52:33.420 Knock on doors, wherever you say I'm going.

01:52:34.960 All right, we'll, we'll, we'll plug you in, but we do have Liz Churchill and I, I promised

01:52:40.560 her that she would, she would pop on.

01:52:42.380 So Liz, how's it going?

01:52:44.400 Good.

01:52:44.880 How is everyone doing this evening?

01:52:46.900 Very well.

01:52:48.280 Excellent.

01:52:49.000 Well, I guess the only thing I would like to touch on is what the great Roger Stone had

01:52:54.960 stated earlier, and I'm just going to extend on what he said in regards to the democratic

01:53:01.020 tactics.

01:53:01.740 I've mentioned this before in previous spaces, that what they're simply using are the Saul

01:53:08.400 Alinsky rules for radicals.

01:53:10.040 This is very, very, very clear.

01:53:12.160 So when you see me post and I'm swearing and I'm calling out these people and I'm putting

01:53:18.020 them on the defense, I'm simply using the very same playbook that they're using against

01:53:23.180 everybody else.

01:53:24.020 And I encourage everybody else to do the same because this way it puts them on the defense

01:53:29.140 and it's worked so far.

01:53:31.900 It really has.

01:53:32.920 And I don't think that they saw this monstrous army coming.

01:53:38.060 And I'd also like to thank Elon once again for giving us the ability to speak freely on

01:53:45.380 this platform.

01:53:46.820 And with saying that, I also encourage everybody to pay attention to what the globalist terrorists

01:53:54.340 are saying overseas this week.

01:53:56.600 The spiritual, economic, financial, psychological terrorists are planning our future.

01:54:05.680 So I think it would be very important to pay attention to what they say, but also keep in

01:54:10.840 mind that they're just a front and this is really all being run by the International Bank

01:54:14.700 of Settlements.

01:54:15.180 I don't know if any of you guys have anything to add to that, but that's about it.

01:54:23.580 Well, I think that's great.

01:54:24.740 There was actually a Napoleon quote that I tweeted out earlier today, and I don't have

01:54:29.840 it on the top of my head.

01:54:30.700 And I think Roger retweeted it, just basically talking about that when the banks take control

01:54:36.080 of the government, when the government's dependent on its money from the banks and the banking

01:54:41.060 system, that is when the government is no longer beholden to the people, that it's when

01:54:45.160 it's no longer beholden to their own national interest, because they become beholden to

01:54:50.720 the interests of where they get their money.

01:54:53.460 And that, of course, is the banks themselves.

01:54:55.660 Absolutely.

01:54:56.360 And the bullet also said, never interrupt an enemy while they're destroying themselves.

01:55:01.760 I think that's a very key point right now.

01:55:04.480 So we should not just assume that Joe and Jill are going to be dislodged all that easy.

01:55:11.240 In other words, I think Barack Obama, who is the de facto head of the Democratic Party

01:55:15.560 and the head of the cabal, may have given Joe the bad news, but Dr. Jill has no intention

01:55:21.240 of leaving.

01:55:22.100 She likes it right where she is.

01:55:24.160 And of course, Joe has to maintain the power to pardon himself and his brother and his son

01:55:29.180 and other key members.

01:55:30.700 So I think it's fair to say that right now, there's still internal internecine squabbling

01:55:36.240 going on within the Democratic Party.

01:55:38.580 You saw that with the Lloyd Austin situation, the fact that the Secretary of Defense, the

01:55:44.680 infighting within the White House and the administration is so bad, the Secretary of

01:55:47.880 Defense won't even let people know.

01:55:50.720 He knows that if he goes in to the hospital and they know about it, that they'll try to

01:55:56.380 replace him or they'll try to get one over.

01:55:58.620 If anything, that shows you how bad the infighting is in the Biden administration.

01:56:02.520 So there's two questions here.

01:56:03.500 I want to hear General Flynn, but also Roger and Jack's take on this, because this is so

01:56:06.180 important.

01:56:06.920 How big is the Lloyd Austin thing?

01:56:08.220 He might even be alive, for all we know.

01:56:10.000 Huge infection they admitted.

01:56:11.800 God only knows.

01:56:13.080 That shows the incompetence.

01:56:14.400 But yeah, we don't want Joe Biden to go.

01:56:17.380 We don't want the impeachment.

01:56:18.700 We don't want to take him off the ballot.

01:56:20.420 All these people pushing that.

01:56:22.060 No, no, no, no, no.

01:56:23.180 But that's a whole bunch of questions there.

01:56:24.940 What's going on with Lloyd Austin?

01:56:26.520 How impressive is this General Flynn?

01:56:28.820 And then on top of that, do we really want Joe Biden to go?

01:56:31.520 Yeah, from my perspective, we do not want Joe Biden to go.

01:56:36.080 He would be the perfect candidate to take into a November election against Donald Trump.

01:56:41.480 In terms of Lloyd Austin, you know, this is a really, really dangerous situation for the National Security Council of the country, which really only consists of about a half a dozen people, one of which is the Secretary of Defense and not the Deputy Secretary of Defense, who really has no business even being the Deputy Secretary other than just a political hack with a bunch of political hacks around her.

01:57:09.820 I mean, yeah, she's not in the military.

01:57:11.860 She's a bloated guy.

01:57:12.460 No, no, these are, you know, it doesn't necessarily mean you got to be, you know, great military experience, but you got to have some experiences in the kinds of stuff that we're talking about here.

01:57:23.780 But, you know, the health situation with the Secretary right now is still unknown.

01:57:28.940 And we should know more about this.

01:57:30.700 They refuse to answer any questions.

01:57:32.760 The potential for what he's gone through, because we all do know, I do know for a fact, for a fact that the health condition of cancer has skyrocketed in the military from all of what they call the DMED data.

01:57:50.680 And Lloyd Austin is a clear example of the problems with taking the full range of the of the VAX, the COVID VAX.

01:58:00.540 So and he's he's taken them all and then some.

01:58:04.020 So now, I mean, we have we have prostate cancer in 20 year olds, 30 year olds in the military.

01:58:09.760 That's unheard of.

01:58:10.780 The numbers have skyrocketed.

01:58:12.180 And so you can imagine somebody like Lloyd Austin, who's, you know, breaking 70 and and having the problems that he's having already with the with the the advent of the vaccine, multiple shots.

01:58:23.520 I mean, you know, you can't make this up.

01:58:27.640 OK, we are in a bad, bad situation.

01:58:30.140 And I think that people are going to have to you know, we're going to have to keep our voices loud, clear, very precise in what in what we talk about.

01:58:41.140 And I do think, although I'm one to to, you know, to throw out a, you know, a harsh name or or two here and there, we've got to be very clear about the direction that we know this country is being taken by these globalists.

01:58:54.840 And it's not it's not good.

01:58:56.500 It's not a good thing.

01:58:57.360 And and and a lot of Americans, I mean, a third, let's just say a third to to lowball it a little bit.

01:59:03.040 A third of Americans are just sleepy, thinking that this is just politics as usual.

01:59:07.560 We'll get over this in another election.

01:59:09.540 That's bullshit.

01:59:10.260 This is a takeover of this country by an elite that that are only partially part of this country.

01:59:18.180 The majority of the group that actually is trying to take this country over are not from here.

01:59:23.700 Well, let me make one more announcement.

01:59:24.980 Then I'm going to just turn this off and listen to this and finish work at the office and drive home because I don't want to dominate.

01:59:30.480 I'm asking you questions, but you know, a lot of questions.

01:59:33.460 But I appreciate the time.

01:59:34.260 General Flynn, you were the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

01:59:38.220 You fought wars all over the world.

01:59:39.880 And I want to believe our country is run by our own country, even if it's run by corrupt people.

01:59:43.260 But I look at this.

01:59:43.940 I think we're not.

01:59:44.420 I see the Navy officers, all of them, bringing out the numbers, releasing secret memos.

01:59:51.340 They can't even put helicopter pilots in or fixed-wing aircraft in because of the cancers and the heart attacks.

01:59:57.240 And I want to think it is a TICOM attack through the globalists or something else.

02:00:02.520 Why would our own system give these shots to our own military that then debilitates it?

02:00:09.140 And as you said, 20-year-olds getting prostate cancer, never happened before.

02:00:13.240 I mean, we know the shots are deadly.

02:00:15.360 But my God, why would the globalists, when they run America and are using it for all this power, sabotage their own power base?

02:00:22.900 Do we know who was actually behind this plot?

02:00:26.160 The last institution in the United States of America that still maintains a modicum of integrity is the United States Uniform Military.

02:00:36.000 Not the civilian side of it, but the Uniform Military.

02:00:38.060 That is the last bastion of really true American culture.

02:00:44.260 Other than maybe you could call the grassroots of America.

02:00:47.520 But that's not an institution necessarily.

02:00:49.980 It is a body of people.

02:00:52.840 But when we talk about institutions in this country, the left has taken down damn near every single institution, starting with the education system, the health care system, you name it.

02:01:05.080 Banking system, the corporate, you know, the corporate system, you know, just on and on and on.

02:01:09.640 So they couldn't help themselves.

02:01:11.020 They bombed the military.

02:01:12.100 The last bastion is the United States military.

02:01:14.080 And you can see right now with the leadership that they have put in place, starting from this Secretary of Defense, the chairman and others, throughout all of the chiefs of the services, they are.

02:01:27.920 And the idea of three years ago, they started force feeding the critical race theory and they started to impose DEI.

02:01:37.320 I mean, this is to destroy an institution that is all about this country.

02:01:41.940 And you predicted another purge.

02:01:43.600 How do they do it?

02:01:44.640 Yeah.

02:01:45.060 I mean, you know, well, they're going to do it.

02:01:47.280 You're going to see you're going to see in the next in the next probably six months between now and June time frame, you're going to see another realm or another range of officers, particularly officers and some some senior non-coms that are going to be pushed out, told, you know, they're thank you for your service.

02:02:05.720 Your time is done.

02:02:07.200 No more promotions, you're out.

02:02:09.440 And you're going to start to see that between now and June.

02:02:12.980 In some cases, it's already started.

02:02:14.740 So when that when that happens, when that happens, basically, all they're doing is they're putting more of their type of people, those that they can control in place to basically achieve what we just finished reading in this in this recent article, because they don't they don't just say these things without preparing for them.

02:02:33.040 So they're just strengthening their coup.

02:02:34.440 Yeah, don't do not under again, do not underestimate, never underestimate an adversary.

02:02:40.280 And in this case, this particular adversary wants to they want to build this country back better.

02:02:46.780 But before they do that, they want to destroy everything that's good about it first.

02:02:51.760 And they have done that.

02:02:53.680 Alex, before you run and that, you know, there's a lot of.

02:02:57.220 I'm having to sit here.

02:02:58.220 I just feel bad because I got all these great brains to talk to.

02:03:01.000 But anytime I talk to General Flynn, people don't know, like this is part of the game.

02:03:04.240 One of the questions.

02:03:05.620 So Human Events has been I want to thank Real America's Voice for coordinating all this again and their coverage in Iowa and Human Events over at Twitter is tweeting out some of the clips.

02:03:16.700 A lot of attention to our VP choices, tweets and a lot of commentary on.

02:03:22.420 By the way, I'm going to air this whole thing tomorrow on my show, Jack.

02:03:26.160 Oh, so we're just doing your show for you tomorrow, huh?

02:03:28.060 Well, I'm doing mine first.

02:03:29.480 So there.

02:03:30.000 No, I want to do my show.

02:03:31.480 I love it.

02:03:32.420 But I have to throw this out.

02:03:34.580 I have to throw this out to everybody since we're on here.

02:03:37.340 What do we think or if I could get the thoughts of Alex, General Flynn and Roger, respectively, on this idea of Nikki Haley being on the ticket, a compromise ticket between Trump and Haley.

02:03:51.800 And I'll just say personally, I think that's something.

02:03:54.780 Absolutely not.

02:03:55.280 I'll tell you, you can get I'll give you my answer right now.

02:03:57.920 Absolutely not.

02:03:59.020 She will undermine President Trump from day from minute one.

02:04:03.520 Well, Roger said it the best.

02:04:05.300 He said a month ago.

02:04:06.340 I think it was just to press the grassroots.

02:04:08.500 I think people would drop it out.

02:04:10.300 I think it would drop all the numbers, all the momentum dead.

02:04:13.940 Roger said it best.

02:04:15.560 Trump will need a food tester to be hired, sir.

02:04:18.620 But Roger won't ever say what Trump tells me in private.

02:04:20.880 But a little bird told me hell will freeze over.

02:04:24.400 So I think that's a disinformation story.

02:04:27.240 When we hear that, I'm glad you brought it up, that Trump would ever pick bird brain to do that.

02:04:32.840 Roger?

02:04:33.460 Yeah, that's exactly right.

02:04:34.960 This is being fanned by the DeSantis people.

02:04:38.360 It's disinformation.

02:04:40.140 You've got two parts of this.

02:04:41.480 One is the question of character.

02:04:43.220 She looked Donald Trump in the eye and she said, sir, you've been a great president.

02:04:47.360 If you run again, I won't run.

02:04:49.300 And now she's broken her word and she's running.

02:04:51.520 So if you don't have your word, what do you have?

02:04:54.880 Then secondarily, her views are so antithetically the exact opposite of Trump's.

02:05:00.380 Trump isn't an isolationist.

02:05:02.120 He's a non-interventionist in the tradition of Rand Paul.

02:05:05.400 And she is a full-on, where's the next world war?

02:05:11.620 Shoot first, ask questions later, neocon.

02:05:14.480 It just won't work.

02:05:15.720 And Jack, you're exactly right.

02:05:17.340 It would deflate the energy in the base.

02:05:20.520 You need to pick someone who is additive, not someone who deflates your own supporters.

02:05:25.240 Now, Roger, don't talk to Trump and tell it, but people don't have to worry.

02:05:29.840 It's not going to happen.

02:05:30.780 I don't think, I think there's zero prospect that this happens.

02:05:33.900 Zero prospect.

02:05:35.140 I think politically disastrous, as you say, but then, and potentially also physically disastrous.

02:05:39.860 And Richard Barris, People's Pundit, has said on my program, and Alex, you know about this,

02:05:44.680 and Roger, you and I have done the specials about JFK and Watergate, that if someone like

02:05:50.060 this becomes your vice president, then it is a guarantee that you will be taken out.

02:05:55.260 Yeah, that's why I say Flynn should be the VP, which he doesn't want it, because he doesn't

02:05:58.940 want it.

02:05:59.440 It's like that great movie, Gladiator, that's a composite of true, true stories.

02:06:08.480 There was a Roman emperor that tried to hire the top general.

02:06:11.000 He said, I don't want the job.

02:06:12.300 He said, that's why you get it.

02:06:13.580 Trump wouldn't have to worry about Flynn as VP, because he doesn't want the power.

02:06:17.020 But almost anybody else, you've got to really watch out for.

02:06:20.460 That's what's so dangerous.

02:06:25.760 Well, yeah, no, I think that's it, yeah.

02:06:28.560 I like Jack's idea of Rand Paul, but I think there's your Secretary of State, in all honesty.

02:06:33.740 I think Rand Paul would be a great Secretary of State.

02:06:36.760 Secretary of Defense is, I think the best possible choice of Secretary of Defense is participating

02:06:42.260 in this Twitter space.

02:06:44.480 That would be General Flynn.

02:06:45.680 So I think you have to find someone who helps you politically, but who can be trusted in

02:06:53.340 terms of your worldview.

02:06:55.180 And you're absolutely right.

02:06:56.320 You couldn't trust Nikki Haley as far as you can pick her up and throw her, and it would

02:07:00.480 deflate the base.

02:07:01.580 Look, Bush called Trump, pardon me, Bush called Reagan, Bush criticized Reagan's economic views

02:07:08.860 as rude to economics.

02:07:09.940 Trump is not going to pick somebody he called birdbrain for vice president of the United

02:07:14.700 States.

02:07:15.440 Zero chance, in my opinion.

02:07:18.600 Amen.

02:07:19.400 Amen to that.

02:07:20.220 I wanted to get in.

02:07:21.000 Did we have...

02:07:22.500 Oh, wait.

02:07:23.500 No, I think we lost...

02:07:24.340 I mean to say was here.

02:07:26.280 We were going to pull them in, and I think we may have just lost them.

02:07:29.980 But let's...

02:07:30.600 Hey, the Kim.com right there, and that's the real Kim.com.

02:07:38.560 Oh, Kim.com is there?

02:07:39.800 Oh, wait, wait, wait.

02:07:40.640 Here's a meme.

02:07:41.960 Here, I meme there 4 a.m.

02:07:44.760 We got to get our memesters in back in here.

02:07:52.260 Yeah, go ahead.

02:07:52.940 You're up.

02:08:00.460 Are you there?

02:08:01.320 I meme?

02:08:04.760 I meme, we're waiting for you.

02:08:07.040 It looks like your mic's open, but for some reason, I don't know, maybe you've got like

02:08:12.220 a system where...

02:08:13.360 Maybe you put them on hold for a minute.

02:08:15.060 Yeah, yeah.

02:08:15.520 Maybe there's a system microphone.

02:08:17.500 By the way, I'll sit here all night.

02:08:18.800 It's great to be talking to all you guys.

02:08:20.300 On the other end.

02:08:23.460 Oh, wait, we're trying again.

02:08:24.680 All right.

02:08:26.200 This is great.

02:08:26.920 This is great.

02:08:27.380 This is like when we had Elon on, and Vivek had...

02:08:29.480 Hey, this is real, man.

02:08:30.620 This is real.

02:08:31.460 Real as it gets.

02:08:33.420 Okay, I meme.

02:08:34.220 Okay, good evening.

02:08:35.740 I'm actually a woman.

02:08:38.780 Oh, I did not...

02:08:39.880 What do you have, Isaac Newton there?

02:08:43.720 Jack, you know what?

02:08:44.920 You make me very proud.

02:08:46.600 Your parents are from the same country.

02:08:49.120 And you make me...

02:08:51.280 You make this poll very proud.

02:08:54.160 You know what?

02:08:55.360 You fight.

02:08:56.420 Gentlemen, I want to say, General Flynn...

02:08:59.500 Thank you very much.

02:09:00.280 Thank you very much.

02:09:01.180 My pleasure.

02:09:02.620 I'm very proud of you.

02:09:04.280 I want to thank your parents.

02:09:07.560 And so, and so.

02:09:08.720 General Flynn, Roger, Alex, you guys are my heroes.

02:09:13.540 You know, I came from a communist country.

02:09:17.400 And you know what?

02:09:20.380 The conversation has been going.

02:09:22.480 And so I wanted to chime in so many times, you know, talking about President Trump.

02:09:28.220 Actually, I knew a few people who worked for him even before he decided to run.

02:09:34.420 And you know what?

02:09:36.120 I heard so many great stories people mentioned that people don't even don't know about.

02:09:43.740 I knew people who worked for him.

02:09:45.760 They were like low-level guys.

02:09:48.620 And he remembered the kids' names.

02:09:51.360 They sent them.

02:09:52.420 He sent them every Christmas gifts.

02:09:55.080 Asked for new day names.

02:09:57.420 And, you know, the guy is not a regular guy.

02:10:01.420 He's just amazing, you know.

02:10:04.740 And what I want to say that I really appreciate, guys.

02:10:08.980 You know what?

02:10:09.820 What do you guys do?

02:10:11.240 I have two sons.

02:10:12.960 They're two teenagers.

02:10:14.960 And, you know, sometimes they get really upset at me because they say,

02:10:19.300 Mom, you breathe politics right now.

02:10:21.500 You sleep talk politics.

02:10:23.560 And I try to explain to them that, you know what?

02:10:27.140 If I ran here to look for freedom, and if we're going to lose this nation,

02:10:35.080 there's no other place to run.

02:10:36.840 And people don't understand, because I grew up under communism,

02:10:42.080 how tough and difficult it is.

02:10:45.720 And what they're doing is exactly mirror what I lived through it.

02:10:52.500 Yes, we don't have to stand in lines to get food.

02:10:56.060 But the freedoms are being taken away from us every day after day.

02:11:04.380 And somebody mentioned New York City.

02:11:06.040 I feel like a drop in the ocean every time because I'm in between.

02:11:11.020 I have a house in Westchester, and I have an apartment in the city in Manhattan.

02:11:15.740 I keep going back and forth, and I call my representatives, and I feel like I'm the only one who, like, calls everybody.

02:11:25.280 I call my kids' schools.

02:11:27.920 You know, I'm trying, you know, my kids even don't want to go out with me because they know I'm like a kamikaze,

02:11:34.960 that I start, you know, misbehaving because I don't take any shit from anybody.

02:11:40.000 So, you know, I try to fight, but I feel like people are giving up.

02:11:46.200 Like, I talked to some people that they didn't vote.

02:11:49.520 I have a friend who lives in the Bronx.

02:11:51.720 She said, oh, I'm not going to go.

02:11:53.600 You're in New York then?

02:11:54.880 You're in New York?

02:11:55.200 Yes, I'm in New York.

02:11:56.260 I'm, you know, I have a house.

02:11:57.960 I go in between Manhattan and Westchester.

02:12:00.540 Now I spend more time in Westchester because I just can't take the liberals in Manhattan.

02:12:07.020 Well, ma'am, just to add one point here, add one point.

02:12:10.240 You've been through it, so you know Americans have normalcy bias.

02:12:16.020 It's like a domesticated animal or deer that are in an area that have never been hunted.

02:12:20.020 They don't know they're in danger.

02:12:22.040 So you've been through it.

02:12:23.500 Alex, I can tell you when I'm looking at Americans, you know what?

02:12:28.520 Listen, America is my country right now, but you know what?

02:12:32.460 I'm looking at the Americans, some Americans here, especially in New York, and people can

02:12:37.520 say whatever because I don't give a damn about this, you know.

02:12:41.580 They're domesticated and they don't know what they're asked.

02:12:43.960 They are privileged.

02:12:46.100 They are spoiled.

02:12:47.720 They're ignorant fools.

02:12:50.240 They're like sheep going to the slaughter, and they're clapping while they're doing it.

02:12:55.980 And it drives me completely insane.

02:12:59.160 Everywhere where I go, they're very ignorant.

02:13:02.880 I have people still in my building in Manhattan.

02:13:06.240 They wear a freaking mask.

02:13:09.220 It has been three years.

02:13:11.540 We have all the data.

02:13:13.720 They still wear a mask.

02:13:14.840 No, you're right.

02:13:15.440 I mean, you see the cult members that just are brainwashed.

02:13:18.880 That's why we got to keep reaching out to them.

02:13:20.460 And, hey, you've been through it.

02:13:22.020 You've got to feel sorry for them because they don't know.

02:13:24.720 No, I don't feel sorry.

02:13:26.200 I feel, you know, I call them out.

02:13:28.600 I'll tell them that they're stupid.

02:13:29.920 I even don't.

02:13:30.720 No, you know what?

02:13:31.700 I felt sorry in the beginning because they were messed up, but now I know they're stupid

02:13:39.500 because after so long, if you can't be searching, if you can't really, you know, use some common

02:13:45.860 sense, you must be happy.

02:13:47.200 But let me just add this.

02:13:49.260 I agree they have problems, but think about Nietzsche.

02:13:52.260 That which does not kill you only makes you stronger.

02:13:54.760 So you went through all this.

02:13:56.280 That's why you don't build this country.

02:13:59.040 I don't know how we reach out to people that are born into freedom and take it for granted.

02:14:03.600 That's a real paradox of freedom because, you know, you know the memes.

02:14:07.680 Bad times make strong men.

02:14:10.680 Strong men make good times.

02:14:12.920 Good times make weak men.

02:14:14.380 Weak men make bad times.

02:14:15.500 That is a paradox we should ask General Flynn or Roger Stone or Jack Posobiec about because

02:14:22.900 that's the problem with success is it breeds weakness instead of meritocracy.

02:14:29.560 Complacency.

02:14:30.400 Complacency and laziness.

02:14:32.460 And that's where we have become as a, you know, in general, and I'm generalizing a little

02:14:37.940 bit, but the complacency in our society, the laziness in our society to participate as citizens.

02:14:44.220 And that's why I love these, I love these people that are, that have come from other

02:14:48.340 countries that have left their countries because of, because of the, you know, the way that

02:14:52.920 those countries are being run to come to America to find a better life, you know, as this great

02:14:58.280 lady is talking about.

02:14:59.620 And, and, you know, God, I mean, she's lived it.

02:15:03.100 She's seen it.

02:15:03.780 She knows exactly what, what she's seeing now in our own country.

02:15:07.360 And this is, I mean, I've been to these countries.

02:15:09.520 I know I've studied enough.

02:15:10.740 I've been there.

02:15:11.300 I've fought these bastards and I know what they're, what it's like.

02:15:14.380 And I know how these people live in these other countries.

02:15:17.040 And in some places they live even worse than, than, than, you know, than even people can

02:15:22.360 even imagine in this country.

02:15:23.680 So it is not far fetched.

02:15:26.860 And I, I made a, I made a video the other day talking about Obama, you know, being a

02:15:31.920 kind of a combination of some of the, of the characters of the last century, you know,

02:15:35.620 Stalin and Hitler and Mao.

02:15:37.520 Well, just those three in less than a hundred years, folks, you know, since 1920 till now.

02:15:43.900 So let's just say a hundred years, just those three alone killed their own people to the

02:15:49.420 tune of like a hundred to 120 million people of their own people.

02:15:53.720 So, I mean, it's not like this happened thousands of years ago.

02:15:57.680 This happened in the last century.

02:15:59.480 So we, we cannot be so complacent or so lazy to think that, that our country doesn't risk,

02:16:06.060 you know, having leaders that, and I, I use that term loosely, but, but leaders they are

02:16:11.840 in a, you know, in their own dictatorial and tyrannical way that can easily take charge of a

02:16:17.980 nation that becomes so complacent, so lazy and so pathetic.

02:16:21.620 And, you know, in our own ways, you know, maybe that's not the choir that I'm preaching

02:16:27.180 to, but, but there's a lot of people in this country that just say, but I think that's

02:16:31.740 what she's asking.

02:16:32.700 How do we reach out to these people?

02:16:34.540 Well, you know what you, you, you wait, you put your time into those people that you

02:16:38.660 can, there are going to be people that you're going to spend some time with.

02:16:41.740 And you're going to say, Jesus, these people, they just don't get it.

02:16:44.880 Go and move, move to the next, you know, move to the next target, move to the next target.

02:16:49.100 So honestly, God, do not waste your time on some of these people.

02:16:53.180 If somebody is idiotic enough to drive around this, you know, the city or the town with a

02:16:57.340 mask on in their car by themselves, God helped us, you know, God helped them because you're

02:17:02.360 not going to be able to convince them.

02:17:03.640 But if, if there's people in, in a community that, you know, that haven't stepped out of

02:17:09.040 their homes or haven't participated, go tell them, look, we have this group or we, you know,

02:17:13.580 we need to get involved in this group or we need to get it, you know, stand up this

02:17:16.720 club or we need to, you know, get somebody involved.

02:17:19.220 Somebody said earlier, go run for office, you know, go run for office.

02:17:23.040 No, I agree.

02:17:23.700 But let me ask you this general Flynn.

02:17:24.960 I know we got to go here soon.

02:17:26.040 We got to go to, it does seem to be geographic.

02:17:29.040 There's a lot of great people in New York, a lot of great people in LA, a lot of great,

02:17:32.920 but on average it's bad.

02:17:34.480 Like what, and what's crazy is they leave those areas and then they come to Florida

02:17:40.280 and Texas and try to set it up again.

02:17:42.600 Like if I know, I know how to admit when I'm wrong and I don't get why leftists can't grow

02:17:47.860 from their experiences.

02:17:50.680 Yeah, because they have no conscious.

02:17:52.540 Okay.

02:17:53.200 People on the left, you know, a communist has, has no soul.

02:17:56.700 They don't have a consciousness like, like I have, and I'll speak for myself, you know,

02:18:00.940 the city of New York, you know, five, five boroughs, it is owned by one of those boroughs.

02:18:07.320 It is dominated by one of those boroughs.

02:18:09.300 And if we could ever break that in that city and get somebody that could really stand up

02:18:15.380 and, and you're talking about Manhattan.

02:18:17.580 Yeah, I'm talking, I'm talking, yes.

02:18:19.260 And it's, and also it's, I mean, completely dominated.

02:18:22.140 So when you go to elections and such, I mean, we get a, we get somebody in that city, like,

02:18:26.760 uh, like the way Rudy was in there, you know, in the, when he ran for, for mayor and when

02:18:31.420 he totally turned it around, he completely changed the nature of the culture, the attitude.

02:18:37.280 We need to have that because I will say that as the city of New York goes, so goes the state

02:18:42.960 of this, or the, you know, the state of the, of the nation, right?

02:18:45.840 I mean, the, the, the people of this country, and I hate to say that, well, you know, other

02:18:50.380 parts of the country don't matter if the whole country matters, but if New York city,

02:18:54.940 which is a, which is a beacon and when it's very powerful and New York city is running

02:18:59.460 on all engines and it's running right and being run, right, being led, right, you see

02:19:05.060 a culture shift that, that can actually, let me ask you this, you've watched El Salvador,

02:19:10.580 you've watched El Salvador general, highest crime rate in the world, lowest crime rate.

02:19:16.260 How does leadership, good leadership change things so quick?

02:19:19.360 Yeah.

02:19:19.540 Leadership matters because it's, because leadership is disciplined.

02:19:22.740 It is, it has to be courageous.

02:19:25.040 You can't worry about whether people like you or not.

02:19:27.540 You can't worry about what the headlines say.

02:19:29.460 You have to look past all of that and you have to make what I call harder, right decisions.

02:19:34.780 And those harder, right decisions are not necessarily going to make everybody happy, but they're going

02:19:39.460 to make everybody, they're, they're going to make this country run the way it's supposed

02:19:43.600 to be run with a very, very, you know, a very sort of, like I say, I use the word discipline.

02:19:49.020 I mean, this country needs to have discipline reinstilled in it and it needs to have it

02:19:53.600 reinstilled at the federal level.

02:19:55.060 And there has to be massive, massive reforms in the, in the federal government.

02:20:00.280 We cannot have this federal government that is so blatantly and intentionally out of control

02:20:06.120 and, and being allowed to be that way because frankly, we just haven't had anybody that, that

02:20:11.720 knows how to run the damn thing, run the government, not run parts and policies and, and, you know,

02:20:18.200 and, and, and issues, but actually run the government, the government itself.

02:20:23.140 How would you describe that?

02:20:24.540 Create a goal, create a vision, get people behind it and then turn people loose.

02:20:28.380 Yeah.

02:20:28.760 And, and this is where the president of the United States and only the president of the

02:20:32.540 United States can authorize, it can, can do things on, on his or her own, but it can also

02:20:37.600 authorize the people that are under them, loyal people who are, who are not only loyal to the

02:20:42.640 president's policies, but loyal to the constitution can authorize them to take certain measures

02:20:47.400 when it comes to doing the things that we need to do to reform the government.

02:20:51.460 And, you know, I, you know, Ronald Reagan did some really interesting things.

02:20:54.080 Abraham Lincoln did some interesting things.

02:20:56.180 Generally, Ulysses S.

02:20:57.420 Grant did some interesting things as president.

02:21:00.000 So there, there, and, and actually in George Washington, if you really want to dig in,

02:21:04.840 but there is precedent for how, uh, in the past presidents have done things to, to make

02:21:13.380 a positive difference, to move the country forward, instead of moving the country right

02:21:18.740 now towards something that frankly is, is, is, is dangerous for, uh, for the, for the

02:21:25.320 livelihood.

02:21:26.000 No, Matt, totally agree.

02:21:26.960 People think of the globals as all powerful.

02:21:28.620 No, they're creating this function than using the crisis because they want that.

02:21:33.180 Well, I've studied history.

02:21:34.820 If you get good leadership and good people, it's actually easy to go in the right direction.

02:21:38.800 They're just threatened by that.

02:21:40.500 And, and, and, and guys, if I could, um, we just got in here, uh, cowboy logic from real

02:21:46.480 America's voice is joining us.

02:21:48.060 And, you know, before we wrap things up, wanted to get him in and, and let everybody know that

02:21:52.160 we're going to be pounding Iowa all day tomorrow.

02:21:55.280 We're going to be out there real America's voice.

02:21:57.180 I know all of us are on our various shows are going to be live Alex and Roger.

02:22:01.020 I'm sure the general is going to be putting the, uh, getting his boots on the ground,

02:22:04.500 but we will have way logic in here.

02:22:06.960 Well, thanks so much, Jack.

02:22:08.460 It's actually, uh, she Donna fiducius cowboy logic and just, uh, huge fans of all the people

02:22:16.000 in here, um, followers of them.

02:22:18.220 And it's an honor to be on real America's voice and on this panel with so many great people

02:22:23.840 like, uh, Steve Gruber said, you got to fight like a Democrat.

02:22:26.940 I've been saying for years that the Democrats circle the wagons, the Republicans eat their

02:22:34.680 young, and we've got to stop doing that.

02:22:37.940 Um, I am from the New York area, worked 35 years in New York city media.

02:22:43.100 I feel for what I meme is saying because my kids are still up there, came down to Georgia,

02:22:49.340 tried to turn things around, saw them tell Herschel Walker to stand down.

02:22:54.740 Don't worry.

02:22:55.540 We got this.

02:22:56.560 It was horrible.

02:22:58.140 And unfortunately, um, what scares me and we've been talking about the vote is that we've

02:23:05.920 got 10 million illegals that can easily be registered Democrats.

02:23:10.400 And how do we combat that?

02:23:13.000 That's what I'm scared of at this point.

02:23:14.620 This could be the joker.

02:23:16.080 This could be the wild card that we didn't have in 2020 or 2016.

02:23:20.220 All I see is Democrat voters with Ben Burkwam and Oscar E.

02:23:25.860 Blue on the, on the, the border.

02:23:27.960 They're coming across in droves and they are going to vote for Biden.

02:23:35.440 Yeah.

02:23:36.080 I mean, Roger might want to jump on this.

02:23:37.960 I have, you know, I could talk for an hour about just this.

02:23:42.100 Um, you know, in, in Arizona, if most people don't know in Arizona to vote for the dog

02:23:48.120 catcher or a, or a County or state official, you must have a federal or valid government

02:23:55.800 ID, like a, like a driver's license, but to vote for a U S Senator or a U S house of

02:24:01.620 representative or the president of the United States, you don't state in Arizona.

02:24:05.480 That's the laws there.

02:24:07.520 I mean, number one, people have to understand in every state that we, that are represented

02:24:11.540 on this space and, and any of your friends understand what are the laws in place in these

02:24:16.880 different States and in these counties, and then, and then fight to make sure that people

02:24:21.600 are involved.

02:24:22.760 We've got, I mean, my wife and I went out and did full watching this, you know, this

02:24:27.620 past 2022 election for Christ's sake, you know, I don't have that much time to do, to do

02:24:32.940 that kind of stuff, but we did it.

02:24:34.260 You took the time to do it.

02:24:35.420 I learned more about poll watchers.

02:24:37.440 I did the training.

02:24:38.640 There's a lot that a person can do if they just decide to get involved in their, in their

02:24:43.700 local counties.

02:24:45.080 And, uh, like I said, Maricopa County early on, I said that Maricopa County just did a

02:24:49.900 Republican vote where they did all the, all the paper ballots and they did it in one

02:24:54.300 hour, one hour.

02:24:55.220 They did 2,500 vote counts and, and it's easy to do that.

02:24:59.900 So, I mean, there's so much that we can do.

02:25:02.340 General, did you see the, did you see the Taiwan?

02:25:04.260 The Taiwan video that came out yesterday?

02:25:06.380 I did.

02:25:07.320 I did.

02:25:07.640 We were running around and, and she's going, eat our son.

02:25:11.480 Oh my gosh.

02:25:12.140 I gotta ask that question.

02:25:13.260 They're holding up, holding up right, right in the room and everyone can see it and the

02:25:17.220 camera turns and the whole room is full of people with cameras and nobody's pushing

02:25:21.000 them out or anything.

02:25:22.020 I gotta ask that question.

02:25:22.920 And guess who won?

02:25:23.740 And guess who won for the folks that weren't paying attention to the Taiwan first party

02:25:29.440 won the Democrat, the TPP party won and they won in a big, big way.

02:25:34.020 Now they're going to have some challenges there, but they won because they, they made sure that

02:25:39.180 the system was done the way it's supposed to be done.

02:25:41.840 And they got a lot of people involved and they did some really good, I watched this election

02:25:46.240 very closely.

02:25:47.300 They got a lot of grassroots people out and they got, and they overwhelmed.

02:25:50.520 And General Flynn, isn't that the good news that anti-bobalist populists are winning everywhere?

02:25:56.060 They're winning everywhere.

02:25:57.480 We're going to win here in this country too.

02:25:59.380 So, you know, but you gotta do your part.

02:26:01.780 Well, I think that's, that's a good, a good a space as any to, to kind of, to leave it

02:26:09.660 on for the spaces tonight that we are going to win.

02:26:13.980 Our side is ascended.

02:26:15.620 They would not be running operations like this.

02:26:19.000 They would not be putting out these planting stories and NBC and the Atlantic and all these

02:26:25.140 places talking about warnings that Trump comes in.

02:26:27.680 If they were not worried, they are worried because of our momentum.

02:26:31.000 They are worried because of the work we are putting in and they are worried because they

02:26:34.280 know what's going to happen in Iowa tomorrow is the first shot politically.

02:26:38.760 I always have to say that politically, or the kids say in Minecraft, the first shot in

02:26:43.160 Minecraft, uh, across the bow of globalism.

02:26:46.940 It all starts in Iowa tomorrow.

02:26:49.780 Roger, any final words for us?

02:26:51.880 Uh, well, first of all, let me thank Cowboy Logic.

02:26:54.540 I'm a big fan.

02:26:55.800 I've been on that show.

02:26:57.080 Uh, look, I think we saw two hints this past week.

02:26:59.920 Uh, one, when the mayor of Chicago said that we're running out of money, these migrants

02:27:04.840 are breaking the system.

02:27:06.440 It's unsustainable.

02:27:07.560 The answer is to make them all citizens, which is, of course, not the answer, but their political

02:27:12.000 goal.

02:27:12.860 Then when, uh, Secretary of State Anthony Blinken said that, uh, after his press conference with

02:27:20.900 the president of Mexico, uh, that, uh, he hinted at that citizenship for all these illegals was

02:27:27.940 the answer to the issue.

02:27:29.320 So very clearly that is their game plan.

02:27:32.300 Uh, there's only one man who can stop that.

02:27:34.320 There's only one man who has a plan to deport literally millions of illegals.

02:27:39.740 President Dwight Eisenhower deported 1.3 million.

02:27:43.140 America can be saved.

02:27:44.440 There is one man who can save it.

02:27:46.500 Uh, there's only been a couple of times in history when one man really could determine

02:27:52.200 the future of the country.

02:27:53.200 It was true in the case of George Washington.

02:27:55.220 It was true in the case of Abraham Lincoln, and it is now true in the case of Donald J.

02:27:59.540 Trump.

02:28:00.060 Let me thank the folks from Real America's Voice.

02:28:02.640 Thank you, Alex.

02:28:03.820 Always a world of respect for General Mike Flynn, one of the greatest living Americans.

02:28:08.940 Uh, just a privilege for me to be here.

02:28:10.380 Many thanks.

02:28:10.900 God bless everybody on this space.

02:28:17.540 Thank you, Roger Stone.

02:28:18.540 Thank you, Alex Jones.

02:28:20.060 Uh, thank you, General Flynn.

02:28:21.680 Thank you, Jack Posovic.

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Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - January 16, 2024

BONUS EPISODE： TWITTER SPACE with Alex Jones, Roger Stone, and General Flynn

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