Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - Breaking： Tyler Robinson's Parents & Boyfriend to Testify For The Prosecution

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00:03:15.700 And, oh, Dominique, we have breaking news coming to you right now from the streets of Baghdad, of all places, where a female American journalist, Shelley Kittleson, has just been abducted by gunmen on the streets of Baghdad.

00:03:31.800 This is breaking news that happened only moments ago.

00:03:35.160 And she is someone, to give you the background, Shelley Kittleson, she has been reporting on the ground in the Middle East on the conflicts there for over a decade, almost two decades, really, going back almost 15 years.

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00:09:09.040 Okay, so news broke last night, a very misleading Daily Mail headline talking about a new filing in the Tyler Robinson case

00:09:20.080 and had to do with something that actually come up prior to yesterday in a at the end of the last

00:09:28.220 hearing. It was an emotion at the end of the last hearing. And this issue about retesting and further

00:09:34.100 testing of a piece of evidence from the case. This was a huge part of the last hearing. We know

00:09:39.640 and if you remember that last hearing is also where Tyler Robinson's lawyers decided to attack

00:09:44.880 myself and Libby Emmons at human events because they didn't like the fact that we were pushing

00:09:50.160 for cameras in the courtroom. So Kathy Nestor and the legal team there were attacking human events.

00:09:57.480 Now, what we did find, though, was that this retesting of evidence had to do with

00:10:02.460 bullet fragments and had to do with bullet fragments that were found during the autopsy

00:10:07.540 of charlie kirk and those bullet fragments were so small that it was an inconclusive test to be

00:10:15.560 able to bring it back and connect it directly with any barrel of any gun so they were not able

00:10:21.240 to test them because they had fragmented so much when they struck charlie and the bullet then

00:10:27.740 shattered into many pieces and the pieces that were found were not able to be matched directly

00:10:32.320 so they're now moving on to metallurgical tests and so this new filing is out and of course what

00:10:37.340 do we see more delay tactics from the defense team? The defense team wants to continue to kick

00:10:43.460 the can down the road to push further and further and further from the date itself. And now they

00:10:48.500 are moving to push back the preliminary hearing date, which was originally set for May 17th. 1.00

00:10:53.960 I want to bring on here Libby Emmons. She's the editor-in-chief of the Postmillennial and

00:10:57.900 Human Events. And Libby has gone through today's hearing or today's motion as well as myself. Libby,

00:11:05.580 how are you? I'm good, Jack. Thanks. And Libby, I'm just going to say right now, as now we already

00:11:12.180 knew this piece about the fragment, but the thing that came out to me that was so actually, you know,

00:11:19.360 breaking in terms of news, the newest thing that I had seen that I hadn't seen this reported

00:11:23.680 anywhere until this filing, that we now see that the defense tells us that the prosecution plans

00:11:31.880 to have Tyler Robinson's own parents and his boyfriend, his trans boyfriend, Lance Twiggs,

00:11:40.580 testify against him in court. What do you make of this latest development that we're getting from

00:11:47.140 the defense team? Yeah, I think it's really important that these witnesses come in and

00:11:52.160 testify. And it was revealing that they put this in their motion for the six-month delay that

00:11:58.360 they're asking for, essentially. And I think it will be very interesting to see the parents,

00:12:03.840 Mr. and Mrs. Robinson, testify, as well as Mr. Twiggs, who we know has been essentially in

00:12:09.240 hiding since Charlie Kirk was assassinated in September. So we will have to see what comes of

00:12:15.240 it. But this also is revealing in terms of why we might think the defense definitely doesn't want

00:12:20.920 cameras in the courtroom. What could be more damning than seeing parents testify against

00:12:25.980 their own son in a capital murder case. What do you make of the fact that the parents are willing

00:12:33.820 to testify, that it seems that they will both testify? We know that in, I think, the initial

00:12:39.600 charging documents, we saw the story there about how this chain of events took place where the

00:12:45.520 mother saw Tyler Robinson's image. We didn't know, the public didn't know the identification of him

00:12:50.880 when it was released by law enforcement. It was the mother who identifies him,

00:12:54.560 goes to the father. The father then confronts him, asks him about where's grandpa's rifle.

00:13:00.280 Robinson doesn't respond. Robinson later becomes, we're told, suicidal. And at that point,

00:13:06.420 that's when the father makes the identification and notifies law enforcement. So Libby,

00:13:11.740 just sort of walk us through that chain of events, both from a legal perspective. And of course,

00:13:17.740 as we know, this will at some point be presented to a jury. How impactful is it going to be

00:13:23.460 having his own parents on stand like that. Yeah, I can certainly imagine being a member

00:13:29.000 of that jury and being very moved by their testimony. You would imagine certainly as a

00:13:34.300 jury member that if you are witnessing parents testifying against their own son, you know,

00:13:40.120 which I imagine they will give the facts of the situation. I imagine they obviously do not want

00:13:45.180 anything further terrible to happen to their child, but it is imperative that they take the

00:13:51.220 stand. And it's also possible that were they not to voluntarily take the stand, they would have been

00:13:55.820 called as perhaps hostile witnesses or something of that nature. But I think that as a jury member,

00:14:01.940 you'd be specifically, you know, you'd be moved by this to see this going on. I have nothing but

00:14:07.300 compassion for these parents and what they're going through with their family. It's absolutely

00:14:11.300 a devastating scenario. But yeah, the defense will also want to cross-examine them. And what

00:14:18.140 they're interested in also are bringing in expert witnesses, and that's something that they revealed

00:14:23.800 in their motion. They want more time to bring in experts to go through not only all of the

00:14:29.420 discovery that they're receiving from the defense, but also to dig into what's going on with these

00:14:35.220 parents and to, you know, ask questions of their testimony. So that's part of what the defense is

00:14:41.060 doing as well, is they want all of this extra time for experts to come in and take a closer look at

00:14:46.820 everything. And of course the defense team is, is always when they don't have evidence in their

00:14:53.260 side, evidence of, um, you know, really strong exculpatory evidence, which we've said over and

00:14:59.960 over that the evidence here just is stacked up in one direction. And there is, again, there's just

00:15:07.780 no evidence, uh, that anyone's been able to present showing a credible alternative here.

00:15:13.920 And so the evidence stacks up. The evidence is clearly on one side in this case up to and of course, by the way, I just have to say up to and of course, the fact that the parents of the victim themselves are were the ones who made the identification and are the ones who we now know are going to be taking the stand and essentially pointing at their son and say that is the person I identified.

00:15:38.060 That is my son. Yeah, they're going to have to do that. And the defense also in their ask for a six month delay, which you imagine I was thinking about this. You imagine they really want the public to forget about this case. They really want this to just get scooted under the rug. They don't want anyone to remember this. And six months from May is quite that's that's going to be a year. Right. Since Charlie was killed. So it's a it's a long time and they really want these delays.

00:16:04.460 one of the things that they said is that they have to go through 600,000 files, 12 terabytes

00:16:11.600 of data, and 5,000 videos containing more than 700 hours of video. So they want to scour through

00:16:19.960 this. But I think they're also using this as an excuse to get the delays done. And when you look

00:16:24.720 at the motion they filed, they indicated that should the delay not be granted by Judge Graff,

00:16:31.720 that could end up being a situation where they could move for a new trial or move for a mistrial

00:16:37.660 or say that this trial was not good enough.

00:16:41.400 So that's what they're looking for as well.

00:16:43.780 They're looking for extensive delays.

00:16:45.860 They have a lot of material to go through.

00:16:48.340 I imagine a bunch of it is duplicates, frankly,

00:16:50.800 because it's everybody's cell phone footage from Utah Valley University on September 10th.

00:16:55.680 And they want to bring in the experts and try and discredit the parents as well.

00:17:00.320 So we're really going to have to see what happens here. But my guess is that Graf is going to grant the the the delay.

00:17:11.440 Well, we'll see. I would say we'll see, because here's here's my thought on this as well, is that this is not the trial itself.

00:17:19.600 This is the preliminary hearing. And so since it is the preliminary hearing where Tyler Robinson, by the way, has yet to actually introduce a plea.

00:17:28.620 He has not pled guilty. He has not pled not guilty. There has been no plea at this point.

00:17:31.960 And this is the way the Utah system works. It's slightly different than other states.

00:17:35.700 And so because this is the preliminary hearing, this is a bar that that the case has to get over.

00:17:43.700 It is perfunctory in many cases, but it is also this hearing where so much of the evidence is going to be laid out.

00:17:52.520 This is a huge key here. So the defense, of course, wants to delay the evidence being released to the public as much as possible, but it's going to be at that preliminary hearing where a lot of the evidence is going to come out.

00:18:06.640 And in fact, they mention photographs of Charlie's body, photographs of the autopsy.

00:18:13.660 They reference this in the court filing.

00:18:15.900 Those are all going to be part of the public record in this case, as they are part of the

00:18:20.100 public record in all murder cases.

00:18:22.700 And so all of these things have yet to be released.

00:18:26.200 There's DNA that's yet to come out.

00:18:28.000 And so even though there are some evidence, which, of course, is still being tested, the

00:18:31.920 point of the judge that he has made numerous times is that you don't need all of this to be finished

00:18:37.660 just to get through the preliminary hearing. This is not the actual trial itself. So I could see

00:18:43.440 what you're saying. I totally could see him rule that way and say that we want to grant this delay,

00:18:48.800 but also because this is the hearing itself and not just the actual trial, I could potentially

00:18:53.580 see him saying, no, we're going to go ahead and we have yet to even set a trial date. Libby Emmons,

00:18:59.360 More with you on the case of Tyler Robinson, the murder of Charlie Kirk.

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00:19:24.940 All right, folks.

00:19:25.760 Jack Posobiec. We are back live human events daily. Real America's voice. We're on with Libby

00:19:32.060 Emmons. And we've been talking about how the parents of Tyler Robinson, Matt Robinson and

00:19:39.380 Amber Robinson are now reportedly in this new court document, this new court filing, going to

00:19:45.860 take the stand and actually testify on behalf of the prosecution in the case here. It's a stunning

00:19:52.580 development, to be sure. But Libby, I also want to ask you about the fact that Lance Twiggs,

00:19:58.300 Lance Twiggs, the trans furry, I guess, former boyfriend, is also going to be taking the stand

00:20:05.640 against his former lover, Tyler Robinson. And of course, we know that with married couples,

00:20:12.660 you know, marriage prevents the, you know, the forced nature of being, you can't be forced to

00:20:19.040 testify against your spouse. But of course we don't have that here. So this is high drama.

00:20:24.080 And we've also been told that twigs has been very cooperative with law enforcement since

00:20:29.520 the very beginning. And all of this is interesting to me because when you read more into the

00:20:34.220 relationship and the Turkey Tom leaks that have come out with a whistleblower from, you know, 0.86

00:20:39.960 this former member of their group, that it was twigs who really was responsible for radicalizing

00:20:46.360 tyler for pushing him to become more political um said at one point that uh there was information

00:20:52.580 or there was an implication that tyler was a virgin before he started living with lance twigs

00:20:59.240 and that twigs had actually sort of um kind of twisted him into this role where he's constantly

00:21:06.000 trying to impress tyler's trying to impress twigs and ingratiate himself with twigs and that

00:21:12.020 actually this isn't even the first roommate that he had done this to. And so Libby, just, you know,

00:21:17.360 we kind of throw all that together. What is your sense of what's going to happen when Twigs takes

00:21:22.500 a stand? Yeah, I mean, Twigs has left Utah. He's been living apparently in Texas with his Mormon

00:21:29.560 relatives. He's been pretty much out of the spotlight in photographs that have emerged of

00:21:34.440 him since then. He has not appeared as anything other than a young man. So that's sort of an

00:21:40.740 interesting thing, too, if perhaps this has changed his position on his various identity

00:21:46.820 factors or whatnot. But it will be interesting to hear what he has to say. And I imagine that

00:21:52.600 he will be asked about some of those messages that went back and forth between himself and

00:21:58.080 Robinson in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's shooting, where we had Robinson saying things

00:22:04.480 like, you know, remove these different notes that I left behind and sort of admitting that

00:22:10.160 he had undertaken this horrific act. So we'll see what happens there and what goes on. I think

00:22:16.860 the defense is definitely going to be trying to discredit that. They might try and say that some

00:22:22.380 of what passed between them is just hearsay and not admissible in court, you know, so that's

00:22:29.300 something that we might be looking out for as well. But it's, yeah, I mean, the relationship

00:22:34.480 between the two of them is something that will have to be exposed in court, and the judge will

00:22:39.960 have to get an understanding in the jury of exactly what that was like and what kind of

00:22:44.680 impact Twiggs maybe had on Robinson. And, you know, I'm just going to say I'll come out and

00:22:53.560 this has always been my big question is at what point did Lance Twiggs know what his roommate and

00:23:02.720 his gay lover was up to? And at what point did he not know? Because we hear all this story about a

00:23:08.900 letter that was being left that, that Tyler left a letter for twigs at his home. We see these text

00:23:14.840 messages. There's these discord chats. There's all this information going out and, and the etchings

00:23:20.520 on the bullet casings. Of course, we were talking about the bullet, um, finding earlier today,

00:23:24.780 but these etchings on the bullet casings that we are told that Lance twigs saw that he saw him

00:23:31.640 making the etchings in the bullet casings and somehow didn't think to say, hey, Ty,

00:23:39.860 what's with the etchings on the bullet casings? Why are you writing things like, hey, fascist

00:23:45.200 catch? And, you know, Bella, ciao, Bella, ciao, Bella, ciao, ciao, ciao, the Antifa

00:23:51.660 international anthem, putting that on the the bullet casings, because got to say, Libby, if

00:23:57.800 If if if I was over your place, you know, for for an Easter dinner and I saw you etching some bullet casings, I might say, hey, Libs, what you doing?

00:24:07.420 What's going on there? Yeah.

00:24:09.200 I mean, there's also the there's been every indication and this is not just from, you know, Robinson and Twigs, but from the other people who had known them well, from friends that we've seen, you know, speak against, speak about this, that Twigs was very self-involved.

00:24:27.240 right? He was creating nests. He had no concern for the other people in his home. He was growing

00:24:32.380 mold in the kitchen, doing really disgusting things, taking over the whole space. So you

00:24:38.220 wonder if Twiggs even noticed what was going on with Robinson or if he was entirely absorbed in

00:24:44.500 himself. There was a lot of drug use, which certainly leads to introspection rather than

00:24:49.900 it does to pay attention to the people around you. So that could certainly be part of it as well.

00:24:54.520 And, you know, I mean, if we really want to let our imaginations run wild, we could imagine that Robinson was wanting more attention from twigs and was perhaps undertaking these acts, looking for twigs to pay attention to him, to, you know, acknowledge him, to become interested in what he was doing and what was going on in his life.

00:25:14.400 So that could be part of it as well.

00:25:18.900 There's so much of this and the stakes couldn't be higher.

00:25:23.560 And so we are going to get I'm sure, by the way, at least the preliminary hearing that what we're going to see is the questioning of the specifics of the identification process, the specifics of everything that's in that charging document.

00:25:40.300 Were these text messages sent by you? Were you know, was this the image that you use to identify your son?

00:25:46.860 Was the was this the image that you use to identify the rifle, that that kind of thing?

00:25:50.100 It'll be perfunctory. But of course, because it is a hearing, then Tyler Robinson's legal team will have the opportunity to cross examine as well, which actually sort of puts twigs and the defense in an interesting spot when it comes to twigs, because, you know, the defense is now going to be in a spot where they have to say that twigs somehow didn't know that it was going on, but also that their client is innocent.

00:26:16.580 And it just creates a very interesting situation for them because what, you know, what are they going to do?

00:26:21.940 Try to impeach the witness who, again, was the, you know, you just don't usually get a witness that's so close to a perpetrator because of marriage laws or something like this.

00:26:33.800 You do get exes, et cetera.

00:26:35.200 So this is going to be a very, very impactful hearing when it does take place.

00:26:41.700 Lance Twiggs and the parents of Tyler Robinson taking a stand to testify against him. Libby

00:26:47.520 Edmonds, where could people go get your podcast that we just did? Yeah, I just did a podcast with

00:26:53.080 Jack. You can check it out at thepodmillennial.com and find all your links right there.

00:26:59.040 All right, right back here, Human Events Daily, Jack Posovic, Bill Marker's Voice.

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00:28:28.660 promo code POSO. All right. So all of this going on, we've got these communists that are on trial

00:28:36.840 now, one of which will be testifying, one of which will be on the, you know, on behind the

00:28:43.600 defense table. We don't know if he's actually going to take the stand yet. But Lance Twiggs,

00:28:47.320 Tyler Robinson. So of course I had to get on my favorite anti-communist Evita Duffy to come in

00:28:53.540 on this. Evita, how are you? Good. Thanks for having me, Jack. So Evita, I know there's a lot

00:28:59.600 making the rounds, but I think the buried lead in this new filing from Tyler Robinson's defense team

00:29:05.960 is that it says right here that prosecutors intend to call Robinson's parents and his roommate and

00:29:14.400 romantic partner, Lance Twiggs, to testify at the preliminary hearing.

00:29:20.920 Evita, you know, you're always out there kind of monitoring what's going on online,

00:29:25.360 social media, the chatter, TikTok.

00:29:27.420 How much of an impact do you think it will have if the parents of Tyler Robinson themselves,

00:29:33.660 as well as his own, I would assume, former boyfriend, former lover at this point,

00:29:41.500 are in court testifying against him?

00:29:44.400 Well, it's a huge deal, Jack. And I mean, let's be honest about what's circulating online right now. It's that Tyler Robinson is a patsy and that there's somebody else behind the scenes who was actually the Charlie Kirk murderer. Maybe he was put up to it by the boyfriend.

00:30:00.940 Like having having his parents and his furry boyfriend testify against him is is a big deal, I guess, in the conspiracy theory world.

00:30:11.640 And yeah, I think that it's it's going to be a big deal.

00:30:15.520 I think that we have cameras in the in the courtroom present as well, Jack, because I know you were upset about this as well as I was that we were at first not going to be able to have full transparency into this case.

00:30:26.520 Now we will. We need that because Charlie Kirk had such a huge impact on my generation, on the entire country, and we need the truth to come out.

00:30:35.420 And we need to have real clarity because otherwise we just leave it to lots of different conspiracies and people who, you know, are spreading, I think, a lot of confusion.

00:30:46.580 No, I think that's right. And I think the Daily Mail headline that came out yesterday regarding this case was very much a clickbait headline.

00:30:57.180 And it's something where I'll just say it right, that the true crime community does stuff like this all the time.

00:31:03.800 And anyone who's been listening to Human Events Daily for any period of time knows that I've called the true crime community consistently a cancer on society.

00:31:13.120 And they are completely reprehensible. They work with complete frauds like the Innocence Project, and they use these types of tactics all the time.

00:31:21.460 They will just run with anything that the defense says, any claim, any accusation must be true and any piece of evidence must be false because it's being presented by the prosecution.

00:31:33.360 You see this over and over in these true crime cases that these these podcasters in the true crime community always bring up.

00:31:41.740 I think of The New York Times doing this.

00:31:43.080 I think of Netflix doing this in the making of a murderer over and over and over.

00:31:47.140 And it's just always fake.

00:31:48.040 It's just always fake.

00:31:49.340 It never holds up.

00:31:50.360 And that's exactly what The Daily Mail did yesterday and talking about an inconclusive case and then shaping a headline to make it look like something else was being said.

00:32:01.580 And this is a huge problem.

00:32:02.560 This is a huge problem for us if we want to have actual truth in our society, because you get these half truths, you get these myth truths that are spread out.

00:32:10.740 You see the same thing with Derek Chauvin, George Floyd.

00:32:13.920 I mean, you could go down the list of all the different cases that people lie about.

00:32:17.700 And again, we have here at Human Events Daily been very consistent about what the truth was.

00:32:23.500 I love people who are actually true seekers, who will go out and do the work that sometimes law enforcement isn't willing to do or is capable of doing.

00:32:31.800 But there's also something sick about the true crime community, Jack, that cannot be denied. Making a murderer is a great example. What happened with the four college students a few years ago with Brian Koberger, I mean, the intrigue around it, there's almost something kind of disturbing about people's fascination with the case.

00:32:49.100 And then concocting these theories that are completely based outside of reality, just for, I think, the sheer joy of concocting it, that it's unhelpful and it doesn't it doesn't make it doesn't help the truth come out.

00:33:02.000 It doesn't make anything better. So I guess I think this is just so important that we have transparency in this case.

00:33:10.420 So I agree.

00:33:14.560 You know, by the way, do you know there are people who in the true crime community who still push the notion that Brian Koberger is actually innocent?

00:33:25.800 And you may not know about this, but there is a name for them.

00:33:29.040 They are called the Pro Burgers.

00:33:31.060 So the pro-burgers are people who actually believe that Brian Coburg, despite the evidence and despite the plea, actually believe that he was he was set up, that there was, you know.

00:33:44.140 Some conspiracy. And in fact, there was a there's a woman I should have pulled it up.

00:33:50.080 There's a girl on TikTok who was saying that some local college professor was actually behind the entire thing.

00:33:55.880 The professor sues the individual on TikTok and won a pretty big settlement in a defamation case against this, because, again, this this person had just no complicity whatsoever.

00:34:06.440 And here here was somebody on TikTok using this case for clicks and using this person's name and accusing them of a crime in order to, you know, just just burnish their their profile.

00:34:16.640 So, again, for people who have not been following that case and the way the true crime community and some of the, I would say, negative elements and toxic elements of it have locked on, go and look up the pro-burgers.

00:34:29.840 Yes, the pro-burgers.

00:34:31.060 Jack there was I think it was it was actually a couple years ago that a movie studio bought the 0.96

00:34:36.600 rights to the story of of these these college students murder and this Brian Koberger story

00:34:42.460 which I think tells you a lot about like where we are in the the true crime community right it's not

00:34:47.400 just individuals but there are like there's like a whole industry behind this where people make a

00:34:52.420 lot of money um I just think I just think reveling in like the sickness of the details I don't know

00:34:57.680 It kind of reminds me of when the Catholic Church talks about like exorcisms and sort of this dark side of the spiritual world.

00:35:05.180 And you're supposed to know that it exists, but you aren't supposed to want to have this sort of sick love and fascination for it.

00:35:10.880 You're supposed to actually not want to dig into it too deeply.

00:35:13.660 That's kind of how I feel about some of these true crime things because it just leads you down a terrible rabbit hole.

00:35:18.140 I think women especially get to be hooked onto it more than men, right?

00:35:23.220 How many like husbands and boyfriends out there are like, I can't believe that she's listening to these, you know, crazy podcasts or like true crime documentaries.

00:35:31.700 And it is kind of, I think, a sick fascination that is not helpful or good for your soul.

00:35:39.500 Well, I agree with you that that I don't think it's good for the soul.

00:35:42.540 And, you know, at the same time, I don't have a problem with people.

00:35:46.540 I would say following cases, you know, that's one thing.

00:35:49.760 And of course we live in a society and where we should do this.

00:35:53.820 There's also something where, by the way, I think that a lot of people, I'm very critical

00:35:57.360 of the mainstream, um, entertainment media as well, because when you watch all, there's

00:36:02.620 all these cop shows on TV, um, you know, broadcast TV or on streaming TV, and they just

00:36:08.600 lie, they're all just lies.

00:36:09.780 They're all just complete lies about violence and murder in America.

00:36:13.320 And they have been for years.

00:36:14.400 So if you go back to like murder, she wrote, right.

00:36:16.680 with Angela Lansbury. It's this idea that like, oh yeah, she's in this like scenic New England

00:36:22.620 town or there's a murder every week. And it's like someone in the community. It's no, that's

00:36:27.000 just not true. That's just not true at all. The vast majority of violence in this country and

00:36:31.640 homicide in this country is perpetuated in the inner city and is inner city gang on gang violence

00:36:36.700 over and over and over and in schools as well. So you see this constantly. And yet where is this

00:36:42.880 depicted on TV? Never. It is never once shown. We're told that there's this like epidemic of

00:36:48.300 white collar homicide that exists only in television. And so that's what people believe

00:36:52.840 the world is like. But if you actually just look at like local news or find out what's going on

00:36:58.160 from your, you know, basically just follow your local police. That's what I do. And you can see

00:37:01.880 what the crime is like. And it ain't anything like what you see on TV. Well, and Jack, I mean,

00:37:06.600 to that point, you know, it's always a balance. There is taking it too far. There is reveling in

00:37:12.460 there's a sick fascination there's also i think asking legitimate questions i think a question

00:37:16.720 that i've even asked you off off offline um you know can this weapon have actually done the damage

00:37:22.900 that it did to charlie kirk some people are saying that it will uh you know the kind of weapon that

00:37:27.720 killed him would have blown his head off is that true like these are the kind of things that i'd

00:37:31.360 like to see answered quick break we're we're coming on break so i don't want to feel like i'm 0.76

00:37:35.760 cutting that off totally fine with everyone asking questions totally fine but what i do have a

00:37:40.660 problem with is people coming to conclusions rather than actually asking questions in good

00:37:46.580 faith. Jack Posobiec, Evita Duffy, right back. It's the Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour. I can

00:37:52.740 say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee if it

00:37:57.260 wasn't for Jack Posobiec. And that is, I'll be honest. All right, Jack Posobiec here back live

00:38:07.560 with evita duffy and uh evita you were asking a question right before we got cut off by the break

00:38:13.520 and it would be clear about that we're cut off by the break regarding the lack of an exit wound

00:38:19.300 for in charlie's murder and this has been a question that's come up since day one people

00:38:24.280 saying hey there's this there's this these videos floating around of of charlie we don't see the

00:38:31.000 exit wound um you know what's what's going on with that and that's basically what you're asking

00:38:37.120 right 30 odd six would never have the type of wound that we see on charlie in the video

00:38:45.420 afterwards there have been all these people with these youtube videos doing tests where you see a

00:38:50.100 dummy and the dummy just explodes and so that's created i think a lot of confusion and questions

00:38:55.720 um and yeah i i would let you jack you had an interesting thing to say in the break so i'd

00:38:59.980 love for you to take it yes we were just chatting about it and i'll you know uh this has been out

00:39:05.480 publicly for, you know, go back at the time. And there was a report that came out regarding

00:39:12.700 the surgeon who operated on Charlie. And I would love, by the way, for the actual autopsy to be

00:39:19.260 released so that people could see this information. I believe that it will be released at the time of

00:39:24.360 the preliminary hearing, which, of course, by the way, this is what the defense team is trying to

00:39:28.180 push back the release of this evidence. But Charlie's autopsy that we were told by the

00:39:35.240 surgeon who conducted the autopsy that the bullet hit Charlie at a downward angle. So remember,

00:39:42.400 Charlie's sitting at the bottom of this amphitheater and the shooter is at, you know,

00:39:48.560 is on top of the building. So it's fired at a downward angle. Most of the YouTube videos that

00:39:52.720 you were just referencing don't portray this at all they show a horizontal um they show a horizontal

00:39:58.980 depiction like on a range but that's not exactly what was happening at all that isn't even a little

00:40:03.320 bit what was happening that's not even close to the actual situation plus they're not using they're

00:40:08.500 using like ballistics gel and things like this that simply do not um approximate what happens

00:40:15.980 when you fire a round into a human being uh they're just they're just fundamentally different

00:40:21.180 in many cases, and for many, many reasons.

00:40:24.020 And so it's the downward trajectory

00:40:25.680 plus the shattering of the bullet.

00:40:28.280 So if you look at the defense filing

00:40:30.140 that came out on, I guess, Friday,

00:40:32.020 and then people are now digging into it,

00:40:34.120 it says that the bullet fragmented.

00:40:35.880 That is the exact reason for the lack of an exit wound

00:40:39.060 on Charlie's body, because the bullet fragments,

00:40:42.100 hits his collarbone, fragments,

00:40:43.340 and then at a downward trajectory.

00:40:45.360 So these fragmented pieces end up just doing

00:40:50.640 what they're designed to do and shred the insides of Charlie's organs, his chest cavity.

00:40:58.580 And that is where they remained.

00:41:00.420 And that is how we're told, I think it's one, it's a bullet jacket fragment that they were

00:41:05.220 trying to match with the striations of the, of the barrel, but they weren't able to because

00:41:10.640 it was just, it was just too small of a piece.

00:41:12.420 So now what they're moving to for the ATF, they're trying to see, I think it's ATF and

00:41:17.700 and FBI are trying to see if they can match using metallurgy to match the specifics of the of the

00:41:25.100 chemical and metal metal composition of the bullet fragment found in Charlie with the bullet casings

00:41:31.320 and bullets that were that were left separate. So, again, that's the information that I have on that.

00:41:37.600 And that's was always the explanation that I was given on on why that happened.

00:41:42.880 And also that this isn't the and also, by the way, this isn't the first time that this has happened.

00:41:47.700 This is something that happens with high-velocity rounds, with rifle rounds.

00:41:51.120 It's actually, interestingly enough, it's actually the same thing that happened to Martin Luther King when Martin Luther King was shot.

00:41:57.940 There was no exit wound, and it was a 30-out-six.

00:42:00.280 And so if it hits him in the collarbone, I think a question a lot of people are going to have, including myself, is,

00:42:05.360 okay, so then why are we seeing a piece of shrapnel come back up and hit him in the neck?

00:42:12.080 um not i mean obviously where we're seeing that it's above the um the collarbone

00:42:17.880 um i've watched the video a thousand times to me what i see is uh is uh you know the

00:42:26.240 neck wound opening and i don't see anything that that jumps up other than like his shirt and that's

00:42:33.460 that's the energy from the uh from the round that's expending itself inside again his neck

00:42:39.900 and his and his body and his shirt okay but i don't think there's anything jumping up

00:42:45.260 at least in terms of the um like a like a bullet or a piece of shrapnel i know there was a theory

00:42:51.100 at one point that charlie was um you know potentially wearing a vest and keep in mind

00:42:58.160 these are like really zoomed in like iphone videos and stuff so there's a lot of just

00:43:02.260 you know it's it's not like 4k video or something and so there's there's just a lot of pixelation

00:43:09.320 And I know there was a theory that some people had that perhaps he was wearing a vest and that the vest ricocheted into into Charlie's neck.

00:43:17.100 And that just that just wasn't the case. That was the entrance wound.

00:43:19.900 Well, I think, Jack, we have to be honest about why this has been such a difficult conversation for so many of us to have, because, I mean, think about the lack of transparency that we've had on Jeffrey Epstein for years and years.

00:43:31.960 Obviously, I mean, I mean, Joe Biden, I've seen files. We have all this drama around it. And then, of course, what happened with JFK and MLK and RFK? I mean, like I mean, and President Trump, to his credit, has released a lot of these these documents.

00:43:47.080 But the problem is that there has been this perception, and I think not unjustified from the American people, that when there's a high-profile assassination, there's not a lot of transparency from our government.

00:43:59.860 And so immediately when we see somebody like Charlie Kirk be murdered, understandably, people get very, I think, suspicious of our own government and for good reason because they've lied to us so many times.

00:44:12.120 I couldn't agree more.

00:44:13.680 I couldn't agree more.

00:44:14.700 And that's why in every time that I've talked about this or every time I've talked to the administration about this or anyone involved with it, that I always say, guys, you want to err on the side of transparency and you want to put if there's information that can be put out, put it out.

00:44:29.400 If there's reports that should be put out, they should be put out.

00:44:31.420 the autopsy i've said this from the very start that this should just be released just release

00:44:36.320 the autopsy to again give people the information as to what's out there because look i get it that

00:44:43.740 in a you know in a in a sort of pre-internet setting you want to kind of hold everything

00:44:50.420 until you get to trial you want to be um be cognizant of all of these things but at the same

00:44:55.740 time information just doesn't work that way anymore and we live in an information environment

00:45:01.020 where people are saying, oh, well, you holding something back for trial, you know, that's

00:45:05.580 that's actually you hiding something.

00:45:07.300 And that makes it look like you're hiding something.

00:45:09.060 And we live in a time when we have seen so many lies between, as your point, Epstein

00:45:12.600 and I would even say COVID, Russiagate, the censorship of the Internet, which we know

00:45:17.320 was done at the behest of the FBI, the previous FBI during during 2020.

00:45:21.760 So, I mean, like, I get it.

00:45:23.380 Like, I actually don't hold it against people for asking questions.

00:45:26.660 I totally understand why people would want to.

00:45:29.360 I just, in, in my look, Charlie was just, you know, did the bumper right there.

00:45:36.380 You know, we used to do a show together every Thursday.

00:45:38.720 This guy's my friend.

00:45:39.360 If people think I didn't ask any questions, like, are you serious?

00:45:42.320 You know, anything about like what I do and what I'm going to try to look into for my friend.

00:45:47.760 And this is the information that I've been given.

00:45:50.520 You know, this is the information that I've been able to find, that I've been able to, um, received in terms of like either just looking online or talking to people.

00:45:58.380 that obviously I know a lot of people who were there.

00:46:01.140 I wasn't there myself,

00:46:01.900 but I work with a lot of people who are there.

00:46:03.820 And so this is the best explanation

00:46:08.740 that I've been given thus far.

00:46:10.680 And if there's more, I'd love to hear more.

00:46:12.440 And I was just saying going on with Libby

00:46:14.100 that I really think that there,

00:46:16.180 I have serious questions about Lance Twiggs

00:46:18.080 and I have serious questions asked about what he knew

00:46:20.480 or what influence he had with Tyler,

00:46:23.220 whether Tyler was trying to impress him,

00:46:25.340 his obsession with ChatTPT

00:46:27.100 and these conversations with ChatGPT and all of these strange, you know, obsessions that

00:46:32.440 he had, because we know ChatGPT has been linked with acts of violence in the past, extremely

00:46:35.740 high profile acts of violence.

00:46:37.480 And where are those chat logs?

00:46:38.580 So, you know, people are like, oh, do you have questions?

00:46:41.020 Like, yeah, I have a lot of questions, but they're, you know, questions that I've been

00:46:44.840 able to try to answer in certain ways and questions that, you know, I think are still

00:46:48.760 outstanding.

00:46:49.600 And we were going to talk about the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, but I think we'll have

00:46:53.040 to bring that up for another time because we're just about out of time, unfortunately,

00:46:56.520 Evita, but I appreciate your questions. And I, I think this is a good conversation.

00:47:01.280 I agree, Jack. And on the chat GPT thing, I mean, I think that there's a real spiritual element to

00:47:05.780 that as well. And the people that are creating open AI, I mean, let's just be honest, they're

00:47:10.000 all transhumanists. And there's been many murders and, and suicides that have now been linked to 0.68

00:47:14.840 chat GPT. And that needs to be looked into thoroughly because it has, I mean, everybody's

00:47:19.520 using it now. Now everybody's using this open AI. What's, what's next?

00:47:22.880 avida duffy where can people go to follow you avida duffy underscore one is my ex and my

00:47:29.160 instagram and my husband is running for congress in wisconsin his website is alfonsoforwisconsin.com

00:47:34.900 that's f-o-r ladies and gentlemen as always you have my permission to lay ashore

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