On September 16th, 2025, Charlie Kirk was shot and killed on the campus of Arizona State University in Tempe, Arizona. His killer was never identified and no suspects have ever been charged in his death. On today's episode of Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec, we revisit the events leading up to the shooting and discuss the possible suspects in the case.
00:05:49.340I've been told that there is a major update that's about to come in the charges on this case.
00:05:59.380I don't want to get ahead of the press conference.
00:06:01.640Just some information I received minutes before I came on camera here today, but information that will lead towards the prosecution of this suspect, that will lead towards the overall case in, of course, the murder and assassination of my friend, of Charlie Kirk.
00:06:24.480And, you know, it's quite a thing to be in a position where, you know, we do a breaking news show and we report on these stories every day.
00:06:36.980And I wish we didn't have to report them every day, but unfortunately that's the world we live in.
00:06:41.740And it's a little bit, I'm not even sure what the word is.
00:06:48.000It's just, it's very different when you're reporting on it on your own friend and someone that you were very, very close to.
00:06:57.640But I know that Charlie would want us to be here to continue the work, to continue the fight.
00:07:06.600I know it's exactly what he would do if that bullet came at me, if I was out somewhere.
00:07:14.980And I know that Charlie would be there making sure that everything was done to make sure that the perpetrator,
00:07:23.360anyone who aided the perpetrator, this evildoer, are all brought to justice.
00:07:30.040Anyone giving aid and comfort are brought to justice and also the networks and the assemblage of entities
00:07:41.080and the thousands of people cheering, celebrating, rejoicing the death of my friend.
00:07:49.820That they are named, that they are publicly shamed, that they pay the social cost for what they are doing.
00:08:02.120All of them and any organization that is involved in this, that's been involved in wandering money
00:08:11.720for these types of radical, domestic, terrorist expressions, that they pay the price as well.
00:10:35.500And we need to say it over and over because I keep seeing and hearing these individuals go up on media and go up in front of cameras and they won't say the words.
00:27:27.080was etched. No tices bulge. O-W-O. What's this?
00:27:33.480The second cartridge that was that was again not spent, the last three were not spent, were not fired.
00:27:44.120The second, hey fascist catch with arrow symbols. The third cartridge, O Bella Chow, Bella Chow, Bella Chow,
00:27:55.080Chow Chow. The fourth cartridge. If you read this, you are gay. L-M-A-O. The rifle, ammunition rounds and towel
00:28:09.880were sent for forensic processing. DNA consistent with defendant was found on the trigger, other parts of
00:28:19.240the rifle, the fired cartridge casing, two of the three unfired cartridges, and the towel. Law enforcement
00:28:28.040was unable to immediately locate the shooter, so they published photos of the shooter from the UVU
00:28:34.200surveillance cameras and asked for the public's help to identify him. Meanwhile, law enforcement
00:28:41.240continued to try to identify the shooter through other means.
00:28:44.760The Washington County investigation. On the evening of September 11, 2025, as law enforcement continued
00:28:54.280their investigation, Tyler James Robinson went to the Washington County Sheriff's Office with his
00:29:01.800parents and a family friend to turn himself in. Robinson's mother stated the following to police.
00:29:11.000On September 11, 2025, the day after the shooting, Robinson's mother saw the photo of the shooter in the news
00:29:19.720and thought the shooter looked like her son. Robinson's mother called her son
00:29:29.000and asked him where he was. He said he was at home sick and that he had also been at home homesick on September 10.
00:29:37.880Robinson's mother expressed concern to her husband that the suspect shooter looked like Robinson.
00:29:45.240Robinson's father agreed. Robinson's mother explained that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more
00:29:53.960political and had started to lean more to the left, becoming more pro-gay and trans rights oriented.
00:30:02.440She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders.
00:30:12.200This resulted in several discussions with family members, but especially between Robinson and his father,
00:30:19.480who have very different political views. In one conversation before the shooting, Robinson mentioned that Charlie Kirk
00:30:27.080would be holding an event at UVU, which Robert Robinson said was a stupid venue for the event.
00:30:36.920Robinson accused Kirk of spreading hate. Robinson's father reported that when his wife showed him the
00:30:44.280surveillance image of the suspected shooter in the news, he agreed that it looked like their son.
00:30:50.040He also believed that the rifle that police suspected the shooter used matched a rifle that was given to his son as a gift.
00:31:00.200As a result, Robinson's father contacted his son and asked him to send a photo of the rifle.
00:31:07.080Robinson did not respond. However, Robinson's father spoke on the phone with Robinson.
00:31:13.240Robinson implied that he planned to take his own life. Robinson's parents were able to convince him to meet at their home.
00:31:23.160As they discussed the situation, Robinson implied that he was the shooter and stated that he couldn't go to jail and just wanted to end it.
00:31:33.160When asked why he did it, Robinson explained there is too much evil and the guy, referring to Charlie Kirk, spreads too much hate.
00:31:41.560They talked about Robinson turning himself in and convinced Robinson to speak with a family friend who is a retired deputy sheriff.
00:31:53.160At Robinson's father's request, the family friend met with Robinson and his parents and convinced Robinson to turn himself in.
00:32:03.240The family friend spoke to police and reported telling Robinson that it would be best if he brought all evidence with him to the sheriff's office to avoid police having to search his parents' home.
00:32:17.560The friend also asked Robinson if he had any clothes that were related to what he did.
00:32:23.800Robinson replied that he had disposed of the clothes in different areas.
00:32:28.220Police interviewed Robinson's roommate, a biological male who was involved in a romantic relationship with Robinson.
00:32:41.740The roommate told police that the roommate received messages from Robinson about the shooting and he did provide those messages to police.
00:32:51.200On September 10th, 2025, the roommate received a text message from Robinson which said,
00:32:59.800Drop what you're doing. Look under my keyboard.
00:33:03.440The roommate looked under the keyboard and found a note that stated,
00:33:07.720Quote, I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I'm going to take it.
00:33:13.860Police found a photograph of this note.
00:33:16.360The following text exchange then took place.
00:33:22.460After reading the note, the roommate responded,
00:37:22.940Police executed a search warrant on Robinson's residence.
00:37:26.000During that search, police discovered a shell casing with etchings like the etchings found on the shells in the rifle near UVU.
00:37:36.160Police also found several target boards with bullet holes in Robinson's home.
00:37:41.820Now, as I stated in the beginning when I read those allegations, these are allegations.
00:37:54.220And like the evidence set forth in this statement, those allegations, what you've heard from the media, even from state and federal officials, has not been tested in the crucible of a jury trial.
00:38:08.200I understand the public's desire to know the facts.
00:38:15.660My own family members have pressed me for information.
00:38:21.560Why are we reluctant to share the details of the investigation itself and comment on the case?
00:38:29.460Because I want to ensure a fair and impartial trial.
00:38:33.640I became a prosecutor because of my love for the ideals of this great country and the principles embedded in our Constitution.
00:38:44.540The free exchange of ideas and opinions is critical to this great American experiment.
00:38:50.280But so, too, are the protections afforded to the accused found in the Fifth and Sixth Amendments.
00:39:10.640And the right to compel the attendance of witnesses.
00:39:12.960And perhaps most importantly, under our Constitution, the accused is presumed innocent until we, the state, prove to an impartial jury of defendants' peers his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
00:39:30.340That jury cannot rely on our allegations, on what they hear in the news, or on what they hear from a public official.
00:39:45.640And they will ultimately determine those facts based on evidence a trial judge has determined is admissible.
00:39:54.560Again, as prosecutors, we bear the burden to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
00:40:01.320But make no mistake, we welcome this burden.
00:40:05.580I'd like to now introduce my trial team, who will be charged with prosecuting the case.
00:40:13.860This is a veteran and expert team of some of the state's best trial attorneys.
00:40:20.200Chad Grunander, who is one of my two chief deputies.
00:40:25.360Ryan McBride, and David Sturgill, on the far right there.
00:40:33.160And those two were very much involved in preparing search warrants, did a phenomenal job, worked day and night to see that accomplished well after he was, Robinson, was taken into custody.
00:40:50.220Also, Lauren Hunt, she is one of our special victims prosecutors.
00:40:57.600And Chris Ballard, my second chief deputy, who will be handling motions.
00:41:07.220I'm going to explain just the procedural steps.
00:41:12.000We're not a grand jury, we don't have a grand jury system like the federal courts do.
00:41:51.760In the 4th District, all felony first appearances for defendants who are in custody are held virtually.
00:41:59.900A link to that hearing is available for media on the Utah State Court's ex-account at Utah State Courts.
00:42:07.480Now, following the defendant's first appearance, he will be entitled to a preliminary hearing.
00:42:16.020At that hearing, the state will be required to show probable cause that defendant committed the crimes.
00:42:23.440The purpose of the preliminary hearing is not to determine guilt,
00:42:27.260but simply to assure the court that the prosecution has enough evidence to proceed to trial.
00:42:33.900If a judge finds probable cause and binds the case over for trial, an arraignment hearing will be held.
00:42:41.640At that hearing, a judge will again inform defendant of the charges against him and require him to enter a plea to each charge.
00:42:50.820The next step following the arraignment is an opportunity for the parties to file any relevant motions, and then ultimately the trial itself.
00:43:01.660This case has generated a tremendous amount of interest across our nation and even the world.
00:43:09.240The public's desire for information is understandable, but it bears reiterating that this case will be tried in a court of law consistent with our Constitution, not the court of public opinion.
00:43:23.640Thus, we will only discuss with the press, discuss the case with the press occasionally.
00:43:31.420It will not be a day-to-day or even week-to-week occurrence, but we will only do so in a manner as not to jeopardize the fair trial process.
00:43:43.120Before I conclude, I want to express my appreciation for the tireless work of our local, state, and federal law enforcement officers.
00:43:55.220They have an extremely difficult, dangerous, and often thankless job.
00:44:01.260I'm proud to acknowledge the exceptional work they do every day, and particularly their work on this case.
00:44:13.120Their skilled work and dedication have brought us to this point.
00:44:17.680I'm also grateful for the leadership demonstrated by Bo Mason, the Commissioner of the Utah Department of Public Safety, FBI Special Agent in Charge Rob Bowles, Utah County Sheriff Mike Smith,
00:44:32.900our local police chiefs, and Felice John Vitti, the acting U.S. Attorney for the District of Utah.
00:44:40.320I'm also grateful for the support of our governor, Spencer Cox, and our Attorney General, Derek Brown, who is standing behind me today and has offered his support and resources as we proceed to trial.
00:44:55.800Finally, I want to thank our Utah County commissioners, Amelia Powers Gardner, Brandon Gordon, and Schuyler Beltran.
00:45:04.320They, too, have pledged to assist with the resources needed to successfully prosecute this case.
00:50:51.380Do you have any evidence that he went places to practice or have to practice in minutes before the shooting that's giving him insight to how he prepared?
00:50:59.180The evidence that I'm willing to share is what I just read in our statement, and it's in the information.
00:51:04.720I'm afraid we're going to have to cut it off there.
00:51:53.600I'm also joined now in studio by Blake Neff, who's not only an expert on all of this, but, Blake, you were about 10 feet away when all of this happened.
00:52:06.660Blake, do you believe that the death penalty is appropriate in this case?
00:52:14.700Charlie and I would discuss that issue, what it would be merited for, if it was merited for anything.
00:52:19.940But what I think is especially important is this is, you know, we always heard that line from people, like, this is an attack on our democracy.
00:52:31.880And they would use that to describe any number of things.
00:52:35.260But if you want to be real, like, the realest possible attack on our democracy or whatever, our republic, you want to have is actual, like, civil violence.
00:52:45.420Like, violence for political ends in public like that.
00:52:51.060And you have a person who, because Charlie Kirk advocated a worldview, a way of life, a set of policies, whatever you want, that he went out and he advocated for something that he disagreed with.
00:53:23.620So can you, so how do you differentiate?
00:53:25.880Because obviously we have homicide statutes, but this is quite literally something very different.
00:53:32.560Because, you know, I saw, of course, people were saying, oh, it's, you know, he was just some 31-year-old podcaster, you know, we don't stop the whole world for when somebody dies.
00:53:48.340It is that this person went out, said something we disagreed with, advocated for something we disagreed with, so we will kill him to send the message that you could be killed, too, if you do the same thing.
00:53:59.860Which, by the way, Destiny said to me,
00:54:02.560Yeah, the original terrorism was that.
00:54:04.900Or at least he said on his show yesterday, before he came on.
00:54:07.660Is killing these people to instill terror in our enemies.
00:54:12.740And that is, again, it is a cancer that you must amputate from society.
00:54:19.280And the only way you do that is you go and you don't merely shunt this person off to a prison where they can get visitors, where they can write letters, where they can radicalize others.
00:54:28.380Yeah, where they can radicalize others, where they can become some sort of icon.
00:54:30.800No, you have to say it is unacceptable that this person remain alive within our body politic.
00:54:36.980And specifically, I heard the prosecutor again and again mention the fact that not only were children present, but that the killer knew that children would be present.
00:54:50.720And because they had to witness it themselves, that that is in itself an aggravating factor, which warrants the death penalty.
00:55:16.060But they were like, no, look at this statute.
00:55:19.260We were hearing about this, you know, and I was, we were talking to them with concern, like, okay, are we also making sure we investigate others who might have known about this?
00:55:27.080And a line we were hearing was, they're making sure they can charge this guy.
00:55:30.860And I thought that was the kind of, I'm rolling my eyes at that a little bit.
00:55:34.860But we also come to understand that here.
00:55:37.040They were making sure we're not going to just charge this person with murder.
00:55:40.660We are going to make sure we have multiple avenues for aggravated murder.
00:55:44.680So we're hearing it over and over again.
00:55:54.840Indeed, they're trying to include all these different ways that if you look at the Utah statute for aggravated murder, it includes risk of killing other people besides the victim and the attacker.
00:56:15.380And they were repeatedly hitting, like, three or four of them.
00:56:18.920They were also throwing in all of the obstruction stuff.
00:56:21.420And I think all those additional charges besides the murder are going to be important because that's how you'll get additional potential accomplices.
00:56:30.560Like, you know, maybe you didn't collaborate in the murder itself, but you collaborated in covering up the murder.
00:57:13.060And I want to say thank you to Real America's Voice for allowing us to do this because we have to respond to what happened here to the man who sits in this chair.
00:57:23.560And the charges that have now been brought in his killing and this is right.
00:57:34.680This killer deserves the death penalty.
00:57:37.740And I'm going to say something else to no plea deals, no plea deals.
00:57:42.540I don't want to see anyone from the governor's office, the attorney general, whoever it is coming in and saying, you know what?