Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - Camp of the Saints： Grassroots Key to Mass Deportations, A Home For Every Child & CCP Organ Harvesting

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00:03:48.800 Today is April 20th, 2026.

00:03:52.920 Anno Domini.

00:03:53.980 Did Amazon just ban the anti-migrant book Camp of the Saints?

00:04:01.920 So Camp of the Saints, if you don't know what it is, it is a novel, a fictional novel that

00:04:07.220 was written in 1973, and it tells the story of what happens when, starts in France, starts

00:04:14.020 in Belgium, when Europe is overtaken, swamped, if you will, by masses of migrants from the

00:04:24.260 Third World, and they take over the entire continent of Europe. 1.00

00:04:30.000 And, of course, we've seen this in France. 1.00

00:04:32.680 We've seen this in Ireland recently with my brother.

00:04:35.240 We've seen this in all over, in Italy, UK.

00:04:39.860 We've seen it all over Western, at least Western Europe, not Eastern Europe yet, but Western Europe for sure.

00:04:45.180 It's all coming to fruition.

00:04:48.140 And it talks about how a confluence of supporters of mass liberalism, supporters of migrants, do-gooders, the people who want to make the world a better place, encourage this migration.

00:05:06.060 But then a massive flotilla shows up. And they overwhelm the shores. They overwhelm everything. Their people take over the government and the government starts ordering more migration into the country. I mean, this is all just fictional. I mean, I couldn't imagine anyone possibly thinking that this could ever come true.

00:05:28.140 I mean, this was written back in 1973, Jean Raspail.

00:05:33.100 So Amazon apparently, and we've got this, this, you know, the statement out now is having trouble or people who are going on Amazon are having trouble.

00:05:45.580 I want to say, by the way, the left loves to talk about book bans.

00:05:50.000 But the books that the left talks about in terms of their book bans are never actually banned books.

00:05:55.200 If you can go into Barnes and Noble and buy a book off the shelf, then it is not a banned book.

00:06:01.360 If you can go and get a book in your local library, it is not a banned book.

00:06:07.100 No, this is a banned book.

00:06:10.880 Camp of the Saints is a banned book.

00:06:13.460 So let's dig into what we are being told by the current publisher, which is Vauban Books.

00:06:22.620 And it says Amazon has removed Camp of the Saints, citing, quote, offensive content.

00:06:27.540 And now French, by the way, French newspapers and others have been going after it for weeks, claiming that it is a, you know, this is the book of the new right.

00:06:36.780 This book is inflaming the new right, et cetera, et cetera.

00:06:39.260 But if that's true, by the way, then shouldn't it be available for everyone to read, to understand what's going on, whether you agree or disagree?

00:06:48.880 isn't that what a free society has what is this idea that just because you read a book

00:06:56.560 it changes you and it changes everything that you believe you can't read books anymore

00:07:01.400 who are the type of people that say you can't read books well right now we're being told

00:07:06.560 that the paperback version of this is down it's up for kindle and it's up for audiobooks still

00:07:13.200 with a paperback version of Camp of the Saints taken down on Amazon.

00:07:18.620 We need to fight back.

00:07:20.120 You know what?

00:07:21.240 Go and read the book.

00:07:22.420 It's just a book.

00:07:23.780 We'll be right back.

00:07:24.320 Jack Posobiec.

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00:10:03.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Commander Gregory Bovino joins us now.

00:10:06.820 Commander, how are you?

00:10:09.020 Jack, I'm doing good.

00:10:10.020 It's good to see you, and thanks for having me.

00:10:12.640 Well, it's always great to see you, sir.

00:10:14.420 And, you know, so I was reading, as I always do, the New York Times, my favorite newspaper.

00:10:19.400 But there was an interesting piece in the New York Times recently talking about the

00:10:25.140 Executive Office for Immigration Review and saw that, you know, it had been pushed out,

00:10:31.160 But also talked about and what was really interesting with what they talked about in here was how it is that so many illegal aliens in our country are are hiding very well.

00:10:43.600 Actually, it turns out they're hidden very well in the system.

00:10:46.200 They're using these ITINs. They're using SSNs, social security numbers that they are so embedded in there that actually if you that the court system works once you find them and get them there.

00:10:57.160 But actually, the really most effective way to go and to go and roll them up is exactly what you were doing.

00:11:05.220 It talks about city patrol. It talked about area control. It talked about roving patrol.

00:11:09.080 And I said, wait a minute. Isn't this exactly what the commander was doing?

00:11:13.860 Well, Jack, exactly. And that's been something that the Border Patrol has done interior enforcement wise for over 100 years.

00:11:20.840 So if you look back in the 50s at the Eisenhower administration, as well as some of the other administrations that really took that interior operation seriously, the removal of illegal aliens from the interior, that's it.

00:11:33.660 That general immigration enforcement, I call it total spectrum immigration enforcement.

00:11:38.760 And that means everything. Everything's on the table, whether it's rolling up to a Home Depot or targeted enforcement, everything all at the same time.

00:11:48.940 and we need to roll these illegal aliens up so we can, as you say, get them into the system, 0.99

00:11:54.500 get them into the system. We can remove them and we can remove them in large numbers. 1.00

00:12:00.240 And one other thing, Jack, is that general immigration enforcement, that total spectrum 0.96

00:12:05.140 enforcement, what that also does is it highly encourages illegal aliens that perhaps we don't

00:12:12.200 arrest to self-deport. And that's really the crux of the issue is that self-deportation. If we can

00:12:18.300 If we can have them self-deport, Jack, it's a lot cheaper, it's a lot easier, and it's very effective.

00:12:25.520 Well, you know, it's interesting.

00:12:26.940 I was tweeting about that as well, and it's something that I've raised with the administration a number of times

00:12:31.020 because I saw Secretary Mullins was on some interview when he was talking about the cost of deportations.

00:12:41.700 And so actually, maybe you could walk us through that.

00:12:43.840 What is the cost of a single deportation when it's from the government side pushing versus when a single individual decides to self-deport?

00:12:56.120 Sure. I know that Mullen had, I believe that was approximately $8,500 was his figure.

00:13:04.460 Yeah, I think that was right. 0.98

00:13:05.120 So the cost of what happens if we don't deport those illegal aliens, what's the cost of the 1.00

00:13:11.140 taxpayer over the next 5, 10, 15, 20, 30 years? It's way more than that. But the cost itself 0.99

00:13:17.220 in regards to self-deportations, as opposed to the government deporting, self-deportations,

00:13:23.980 we were offering $2,500 and a free plane ticket. So let's say $3,500 for an illegal alien to

00:13:31.100 self-deport. It's a pretty good deal. It's fast, it's easy, and in the grand scheme of things, 1.00

00:13:36.760 it's pretty cheap. When the government deports, it's going to be a little more expensive,

00:13:41.200 but that also depends on that mechanism of deportation. Is the illegal alien going to

00:13:46.840 be pushed back across the border, say, to Mexico, or does Mexico have a third country agreement

00:13:53.240 where we could put, say, someone from Honduras or El Salvador into Mexico? Much cheaper if they

00:14:00.080 have to be flown halfway across the world, say back to Somalia or China or somewhere. It's

00:14:05.820 definitely going to be more expensive. But self-deportations, that's where it's at. A lot

00:14:11.960 cheaper, a lot more effective. And so you see this, when you say self-deportations,

00:14:18.280 some of the ways that myself and others have called for, and walk me through if my thinking

00:14:22.440 is correct on this, you look at the banking system, you try to find which ones of them

00:14:28.740 are accessing banking or debit cards. You look at their ability to rent. You look at their ability

00:14:34.700 to possibly even own property. I know driver's licenses and CDLs is something that our secretary

00:14:42.100 of transportation has been looking at. We're actually going to be speaking to him very shortly.

00:14:45.940 And so there it's all of those sort of, you know, quality of life and course of life,

00:14:51.300 pattern of life type inputs where you can go in and say, we can't have you accessing our system.

00:14:58.100 If they can't access the system, then boom, they're going to go back.

00:15:01.420 And the biggest one of all of those, of course, which we've called for here for years, is

00:15:05.900 a massive tax on remittances.

00:15:10.760 Spot on, Jack.

00:15:12.260 Exactly.

00:15:12.840 It's everything.

00:15:14.020 You said the word everything.

00:15:15.560 I think we fail to do that sometimes.

00:15:18.440 We look at maybe one of those tactics as the panacea for self-deportations, but it's not.

00:15:24.500 It's everything.

00:15:25.600 It's that total spectrum.

00:15:26.980 immigration enforcement. Let's make it so hard for them to live, to work, to recreate, to do

00:15:34.520 anything in the United States that they have no choice but to self-deport. And that's what we

00:15:40.360 were doing in some of those large cities. Look at Los Angeles. Before we left Los Angeles a few

00:15:46.760 months back, it was locked down. The fashion district there in downtown Los Angeles, completely

00:15:51.980 locked down. The illegal alien businesses, the businesses ran by illegal aliens, the businesses 1.00

00:15:57.940 that were inhabited by illegal aliens completely shut down. And we started to see those self 0.99

00:16:04.540 deportations rise because if you can't make a living and you can't move and work freely,

00:16:10.360 then what other choice do you have? And doing that nationwide, as you say, whether it's looking

00:16:16.380 at the banking system, taxes on remittances. There's a whole host, a whole host of things

00:16:22.160 that we can do to lock them down and encourage them to self-deport. And so we look at this

00:16:29.940 and this has to be, and I'm just going to say it, one of the things, the big pushbacks we get here

00:16:35.200 when it comes to E-Verify and other systems is the employers in this country, isn't it?

00:16:39.520 it is it is and a lot of those employers say it's impossible for them to say use an e-verify

00:16:47.600 or to get those documents needed for an illegal alien to actually work but you know that's not

00:16:53.540 true look at the border jack look right here in el centro the imperial valley all those farmers

00:16:59.720 that utilize that migrant labor they don't seem to have a problem uh getting documents or using

00:17:06.640 those systems that are in place now for those migrant workers to work the farms here in the

00:17:12.860 Imperial Valley. I think it's the farmers in the interior just aren't used to it. They don't want

00:17:17.300 to be used to it. And rather than do it the right way, they just hire illegal labor. 0.93

00:17:24.480 And, and right. And, and we can all sit there and say, oh my gosh, you know, that's terrible. But

00:17:28.960 you know what though? I bet you every single one of us knows someone in our lives who runs,

00:17:33.420 whether it's a small firm or small contract, whatever it is, whatever it is, where they are,

00:17:38.920 they're living large, they're living high on the hog, and we know what they're doing. We know it's

00:17:44.440 because they're cutting corners and hiring illegals. You know, you're right. And one of 1.00

00:17:49.440 the things with hiring illegal aliens is, do they pass the savings on to the consumer? Whether it's 0.95

00:17:56.240 a farmer, a construction firm, is the savings passed on to the consumer? Well, you know, my

00:18:02.400 housing costs to build a house or buy a house hasn't gotten cheaper. Nothing gets cheaper,

00:18:09.380 but they've got that almost slave labor, but they're not passing the savings on to you or me. 0.97

00:18:16.680 So that's a fallacy that they actually need those illegal aliens to just get by. That's not true.

00:18:23.700 We were getting by just fine before this massive influx of illegal aliens infected our nation.

00:18:29.580 that's exactly right we're on with commander gregory bovino uh he recently until recently

00:18:38.600 was serving until his retirement served as the commander at large for cbp customs and border

00:18:44.160 patrol he's on with us walking through the mechanisms of mass deportations how the system

00:18:50.900 works and how hopefully with the new secretary we can get it to work even better and increase

00:18:57.220 those mass deportations. Right back, Human Events Daily, Jack Posobiec, Real America's Voice.

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00:19:21.340 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec. We're back live here, Human Events Daily,

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00:20:30.180 post. All right. We're on with Secretary, excuse me, gosh, with Commander Greg Bovino.

00:20:36.860 Commander Bovino, I'm Freudian slip here. I must be promoting you while we're on the

00:20:40.980 program. Hey, thanks, Jack. I appreciate the motion there. That's awesome.

00:20:46.860 No problem. And so, no, I was about to ask your, so we have Secretary Mullen there. We

00:20:53.340 We got some new folks in place over at the department.

00:20:57.240 What would be, when you're looking at the top priorities for the department, for DHS,

00:21:02.980 what would you say the top three things or so, whatever top things you could think of,

00:21:08.580 for really escalating these mass deportations?

00:21:11.840 We talked about self-deport.

00:21:13.340 What else would you focus on?

00:21:15.940 Sure. 1.00

00:21:16.600 Well, Secretary Mullen's probably drinking through a fire hose right now. 1.00

00:21:20.220 That immigration problem's definitely complex. 0.98

00:21:22.640 It's massive. My estimate is 100 million illegal aliens here in the United States and how we're

00:21:29.240 going to get rid of that. So first off is a workable strategy. We just talked about some 1.00

00:21:35.940 tactics that could be used, whether it was going after the finances, remittances, social security

00:21:40.980 numbers. We have to be very careful not to use any one tactic as the answer because any one tactic,

00:21:48.940 whether it's a work site enforcement. I've heard that one bannered about by Secretary Mullen and

00:21:55.060 I believe Tom Holman. That's fantastic. We do need to do work site enforcement, but that alone

00:21:59.900 won't solve it. So it's got to be that total spectrum. Everything goes. They've got to bring

00:22:06.080 all that in one strategy. And that strategy has to be a workable strategy that that very baseline

00:22:12.840 Border Patrol agent and or ICE officer understands. They have to understand that at the very lowest

00:22:17.840 levels, the ones out on the street, actually putting handcuffs on illegal aliens. So there's

00:22:23.100 number one. Number two is time is of the essence. There's an awfully lot of illegal aliens here in

00:22:28.040 the United States. And, you know, Americans, sometimes we're impatient. Let's be impatient

00:22:32.920 about this. It's time to, it's actually time to be impatient and start deporting illegal aliens 1.00

00:22:38.940 because there's a whole lot of them that need deporting. And then finally is the grassroots.

00:22:45.020 and I speak about this a lot, is the grassroots is so very important.

00:22:50.580 If we look at, say, Carl von Clausewitz, the father of modern strategy,

00:22:54.480 and Jack, you probably studied him during your time in naval intelligence.

00:22:58.540 Very much so.

00:22:59.220 But very much so.

00:23:00.760 Total war.

00:23:02.220 Yes.

00:23:03.180 So one of the things that Clausewitz said, the best way,

00:23:06.780 or one of the most effective ways, I should say,

00:23:09.800 to counter a grassroots movement is by another grassroots movement.

00:23:15.020 So what about American citizens? When are we going to bring American citizens into the fight?

00:23:20.960 Patriots like you, me, and millions of other Americans that are on the sidelines wondering

00:23:27.420 what the hell's going on right now? What is going on right now? Why aren't we mass deporting?

00:23:31.780 Take the ICE tip line. That ICE tip line has never worked. It's not, or it's not been utilized

00:23:38.060 the way it could and should be, well, since there was an ICE tip line. What about millions of

00:23:45.120 Americans with calls for service on the ICE tip line that gets those immigration officers,

00:23:50.060 those border patrol agents, and those ICE officers where they need to be, and that being where the

00:23:55.800 illegal aliens are, ICE tip line, fantastic way to do that. So I'd highly recommend utilizing that

00:24:02.500 ice tip line and putting that in the hands of Americans and weaponizing the ice tip line 0.87

00:24:08.740 so we can get our hands on even more illegal aliens. And then, as we talked about earlier in

00:24:13.480 this segment, is creating the mechanism for self-deportation, creating a good reason

00:24:21.200 for self-deportation. So grassroots beats grassroots.

00:24:25.680 and i i love this idea so you're utilizing the the patriots and and by the way what do we always

00:24:33.920 hear we always hear the grassroots on the other side of ice they say we're we're first amendment

00:24:38.440 advisors or first amendment auditors and all this we're first amendment uh supporters well guess

00:24:45.120 what the first amendment works both ways the first amendment means hey we're just out here

00:24:50.680 in the street we're just out here in the street documenting we're just out here in the street

00:24:54.320 figuring things out. And so if you're talking about the First Amendment, well, guess what?

00:24:59.360 You do have a First Amendment right to report. You do have a First Amendment right to film.

00:25:04.760 You do have a First Amendment right to make those reports to to the federal government.

00:25:10.280 If you feel that it, you know, that's more than just the First Amendment, but you have a right as an American citizen to make those reports to the federal government.

00:25:17.840 So what's really stopping this, you know, the ability of citizens to form, I don't know, perhaps some kind of 50 state organization where they're focused directly on this, Commander Bovino?

00:25:31.360 Sure. It's information. It's the informational part of the strategy.

00:25:35.000 One of the interesting things is when the Border Patrol, when we were in those cities nationwide, that was part of our strategy.

00:25:41.580 Part of the strategy that we were implementing more and more each day is this giant workable strategy that brings in all components, including the grassroots, including Mom, Pa, America.

00:25:53.900 I always called them Mom, Pa, America, and bringing them into the strategy.

00:25:58.480 So it's informational.

00:25:59.840 Can you call the ICE tip line and somebody actually answer the phone?

00:26:03.040 Once they know that that can actually occur and that that would occur and that someone would actually answer the phone and then act upon the information given, you're ahead of the game right there.

00:26:15.240 We started that in Charlotte, North Carolina. We started taking tips on social media. And remember, it doesn't have to be a nice tip line, an actual telephone. It can be social media. There's many, many ways to get that done, Jack.

00:26:26.940 But in Charlotte, we started taking tips on social media, and just in the five days we were in Charlotte, Operation Charlotte's Web, we started knocking down all kinds of illegal aliens based on citizens' tips that came in on the various social media platforms.

00:26:42.600 This is incredible. Commander Bovino, where can people follow you?

00:26:47.180 They can follow me on X. That's Gregory K. Bovino, or Gregory K. Bovino. They're on X.

00:26:52.500 All right, God bless.

00:26:54.620 Commander Bovino, give him a follow, folks.

00:26:56.860 It sounds like he's got an idea, perhaps, for a new organization.

00:27:00.160 We're right back.

00:27:00.600 Human Events Daily continues.

00:27:05.240 Where's Jack?

00:27:07.600 Where's Jack?

00:27:09.700 Where is he?

00:27:10.980 Jack, I want to see you.

00:27:14.640 Great job, Jack.

00:27:16.080 Thank you.

00:27:16.820 What a job you do.

00:27:18.260 You know, we have an incredible thing.

00:27:19.440 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad.

00:27:21.740 But we have guys, and these are the guys that should be getting policies. 0.97

00:27:51.740 on the ccp and the organ harvesting at an industrial scale has just come out my good

00:27:59.800 friend yan yakelek from the epoch times killed the order and i wanted to get him on here to

00:28:05.940 really walk us through this and and hopefully see if this gets some attention uh at least on

00:28:11.140 the sidelines or possibly even brought up directly by the president yan how are you

00:28:15.800 I'm fantastic, Jack.

00:28:17.460 I mean, the timing is unbelievable, frankly.

00:28:23.240 No, it really is.

00:28:23.880 So walk us through this.

00:28:25.540 Do people have heard the organ harvesting?

00:28:27.660 They hear it, the phrase.

00:28:29.680 It's something, though, I think it's so beyond what people think is even possible.

00:28:34.380 Tell us how this system works and how it got started in China.

00:28:39.040 So there's a few pieces.

00:28:41.180 Let me lay it out.

00:28:41.920 So this is kind of a next level type of organ trafficking that is, as you point out, unimaginable.

00:28:47.440 I've been working on it for the last 20 years. And at the beginning, I would talk about it with

00:28:51.520 people. People would just kind of clue out in the middle of conversations because they

00:28:55.040 just literally couldn't handle it. We're talking about a situation where we have a state actor

00:28:59.920 doing it. This isn't black market. This is at least gray market or something like that,

00:29:04.400 the Chinese Communist Party. We have a situation where they're able to push mass propaganda

00:29:10.720 through a population, which is really important, dehumanizing propaganda. And they're also able to

00:29:15.920 incarcerate massive amounts of people. And they've done this repeatedly throughout history.

00:29:20.880 So they have this history of basically creating Black classes. The first Black class was landowners. 0.93

00:29:26.640 They wanted to basically take people's land, so they had to kind of convince the population that 1.00

00:29:30.480 was okay. So they pushed mass propaganda, saying these people are dangerous, they're pariahs,

00:29:35.600 you should fear them, and actually it's okay to hurt them. And so that way they took the land.

00:29:40.160 and if people die people die right and so they've had this series of black classes and back in 1999 0.90

00:29:46.640 they created a new black class which was phalan gong practitioners and this was a spiritual

00:29:52.080 discipline truthfulness compassion tolerance this is what people were actually doing right and what

00:29:58.080 happened was as they created the black class as they decided that these 70 to 100 million people 0.72

00:30:02.800 were going to become illegal they pushed this mass dehumanizing propaganda into the system 0.91

00:30:07.680 and what happened was that these people resisted so they like they wouldn't allow themselves to

00:30:12.560 get brainwashed they wouldn't when they were struggled against they said no i'm not going

00:30:16.000 to give up what i believe and so they incarcerated a massive group of them and this was a critical

00:30:20.880 part of how you get killed to order so the the second part is that you have to actually be able

00:30:27.840 to understand how it is that in normal or in a normal organ harvesting situation for example in

00:30:33.680 america right someone has a catastrophic accident let's say i need a new heart right someone needs

00:30:38.560 to basically have a car accident or a motorcycle accident and then an ethics team has to decide

00:30:43.440 that it's okay to harvest from them we don't want to harvest from someone who has a chance to live

00:30:46.960 and then blood type tissue type and the size kind of has to match as well uh our bodies reject things

00:30:53.360 that are foreign including organs that's why we do this kind of matching well there was actually

00:30:58.000 a whistleblower a man named yakubali a heart transplant surgeon who had a patient this was

00:31:02.960 back in 2005 who basically told him i can go to china i'm going to china in two weeks and i'm

00:31:08.720 getting my new heart and the yakub just absolutely couldn't believe it because there's a huge red

00:31:13.440 flags here right number one we're seeing that someone is actually that scheduled uh accident

00:31:19.520 is happening like someone's actually scheduling the catastrophe catastrophic accident so the

00:31:23.600 person basically is being killed that's red flag number one number two is how do you get this two

00:31:28.160 week time period well these Falun Gong practitioners that they had in the system i mean we don't know

00:31:34.160 whether it was a million or two million the state department said that half of the people this was

00:31:38.320 in 2005 were all Falun Gong practitioners in their massive incarceration system they started blood

00:31:43.200 typing tissue typing and organ scanning them ahead of time and then when this person comes in they 0.65

00:31:48.400 pay their 100 or 200 grand to get their new heart okay and that person because the they can get that

00:31:54.720 in two weeks because that person is already pre-matched to them okay in a database ready

00:32:00.400 to be killed to order and that's why my book is called killed to order so this is something that's

00:32:04.160 really kind of beyond the beyond and was very difficult for years for people to even grasp

00:32:11.440 so and and this is what we're talking about because you're dealing with numbers that are

00:32:15.120 so big here that they're they're matching it person to person and then if they need something

00:32:20.720 and they just say, hey, we're going to go to some prisoner.

00:32:22.680 And by the way, this isn't a practice that started with the Falun Gong.

00:32:26.060 They originally did this for political prisoners

00:32:27.700 during the Cultural Revolution, if I remember correctly. 0.70

00:32:31.880 Well, exactly.

00:32:32.960 So there's small amounts of this happening up until about 2000.

00:32:38.300 It's the scale.

00:32:39.420 The Falun Gong practitioners brought this scale to it. 0.97

00:32:41.980 Right, right, right.

00:32:42.160 I just mean the general idea.

00:32:44.420 Oh, no, 100%.

00:32:45.700 In fact, I think in 98, there was congressional testimony

00:32:48.360 about prisoners being killed for organs.

00:32:50.720 you're absolutely right. Basically, the unusual situation was simply that, you know, I think some

00:32:57.480 very evil person, and I theorize in the book about who this is, I think I make a good case,

00:33:02.920 basically thought to themselves, hey, in this kind of totally amoral, right, no moral boundary system

00:33:07.400 that CCP has, that I can actually have kind of a win-win, right? On the one hand, I can get rid

00:33:12.060 of the Falun Gong, the dictator at the same time said eradicate them, right? And if they die, they 1.00

00:33:16.940 die and yeah and we can also make a lot of money and then provide organs to the super elites and

00:33:22.840 if you remember there was this hot mic moment back in last september xi jinping vladimir putin

00:33:28.100 exactly talking in tianmen square um they started talking about organ harvesting

00:33:34.940 putin basically says to xi through continual organ transplantation maybe even we can achieve

00:33:40.480 immortality and that speaks to the third or third win i i hate to call it a win because it's a horror

00:33:46.100 it's a horror show, but basically it's unlimited organs for the super elites in China, basically

00:33:51.440 in perpetuity. So the moment that this system was created, we see it just kind of grow geometrically 0.53

00:33:57.480 from the year 2000 to 2005, just massive growth, you know, almost, you know, more than up between

00:34:03.580 100 and 200 hospitals created just to do this. And this, I want people to understand too,

00:34:10.940 that when you're talking about, you know, these people, you know, Falun Gong, they're not being

00:34:18.160 arrested for, you know, in many cases, or any case, really, they're not violent people. These

00:34:23.980 aren't people that attack anyone or anything like this. They're not people who are committing abuse.

00:34:29.000 They're people who are locked up for their beliefs. It's 100%. And this is, you know, I've

00:34:35.760 spent years kind of trying to really understand why they ultimately attack the Falun Gong like

00:34:40.760 this. You know, some people say it was bigger than the Communist Party, 70 to 100 million people.

00:34:45.020 That seems like a reasonable reason. I've also heard that Jiang Zemin was very jealous of the

00:34:50.020 founder of Falun Gong, Li Hongzhi. You know, Li Hongzhi had the love of the people. Jiang could

00:34:55.220 never have it, right? He was the dictator. But the other part, there's something really unusual

00:34:59.180 about Falun Gong. It's like, so it's very, has a lot of teachings, but there aren't a lot of rules.

00:35:05.100 And the rules are like, there's no hierarchy in it. There's no collection of money. There's no

00:35:09.380 worship of the teacher. It's very, very bottom up, very grassroots. And in a way, I think this is

00:35:16.520 the thing that made the Communist Party so afraid because they're very top down. And you know this

00:35:21.860 better than anyone, Jack. They basically like to keep the control all the way from the top through

00:35:27.140 every institution. And here you had something that really wasn't very easy to control. And they saw

00:35:32.140 that especially when they started persecuting them and these people resisted to being struggled

00:35:36.840 against. So I think ultimately that's the reason. Basically, it kind of promotes agency or free

00:35:43.320 thought or something like that. That's my view. And something that just kind of explained to

00:35:49.420 folks that Falun Gong, it starts with, so Tai Chi, which people know in the US, and it's not

00:35:56.200 Tai Chi, but it has a similarity just so people could understand in Chinese Qigong. So that Gong,

00:36:02.740 the system of movement is related to this system of spiritual beliefs and exercises? I mean,

00:36:11.140 I know I'm butchering this, but just so people can understand, it's almost like going after

00:36:16.700 people for practicing yoga. Well, absolutely. And so in these traditional Chinese methods,

00:36:23.480 right, people would have all these components kind of in one system. So there's this physical

00:36:27.660 component, like you mentioned, there's, there's this, uh, you know, kind of education or mental

00:36:32.540 component, and there's also a spiritual component and people are kind of, you know, cultivating all

00:36:37.280 of that at once. And so, right. And so if you go to, you know, certain, uh, you know, yoga outlets,

00:36:44.520 that's, that's similar to what they push. And so obviously it's not that, but I'm just saying

00:36:48.820 that they're criminalizing people for doing something like this, which doesn't hurt anyone.

00:36:53.820 And that's the point. A hundred percent. And I really think. Well, excuse me. It doesn't hurt anyone other than the CCP, because what does it do? It preaches about a higher power.

00:37:04.500 And under the CCP system, they don't want anyone to be higher than the CCP and certainly not anyone who they view as a potential threat to them because of its size.

00:37:13.220 Jan, I could go off on this for hours, as you know. Tell people the book again and where they can get it.

00:37:20.560 Well, the book is called Kill to Order.

00:37:22.580 You can actually get it at killtoorder.com.

00:37:24.980 I'm encouraging people to get it.

00:37:26.280 And the second part of the book is, in a way, the most important part,

00:37:29.720 which is the true nature of America's biggest adversary.

00:37:32.660 And I think us getting this wrong for so many decades

00:37:35.020 has really cost us a lot of blood and treasure.

00:37:37.360 And you mentioned the president's visit.

00:37:39.060 I think that message, that information is, I think, critical for us.

00:37:42.600 Would you want the president to bring this up to Xi Jinping?

00:37:47.700 A hundred percent.

00:37:48.700 Who would want to have this on their legacy?

00:37:51.180 Who would want this on their record?

00:37:53.660 Jan Jekalek, Epoch Times.

00:37:55.120 Go give him a follow, folks, and check out the book.

00:37:56.740 Right back.

00:38:01.620 So we're going to call this the Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour.

00:38:04.800 I can say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential

00:38:09.060 nominee if it wasn't for Jack Posobiec.

00:38:10.760 And that is, I'll be honest.

00:38:12.900 all right jack kosobik very excited to be back here human events daily because i want to talk

00:38:24.040 about a subject that i really wanted to get to last week and we did a bunch of time at the white

00:38:28.580 house and that just sort of ate up our schedule and there were other things of course to take

00:38:33.260 down a congressman so you know that uh wasn't a complete wasn't a complete uh uh you know wasn't 0.71

00:38:39.000 a complete departure, but something the first lady was talking about was the importance

00:38:43.980 of foster care and working to foster our foster care system and to provide for better, really 0.88

00:38:52.960 just better attention to that system and work to fix some of the gaps that have been in

00:38:58.680 there.

00:38:59.120 And really excited to have on here, we've got Alex Adams from the Department of Health

00:39:05.780 and Human Services from HHS to talk to us about the new program, A Home for Every Child.

00:39:12.420 Alex, how are you?

00:39:13.780 I'm doing well.

00:39:14.420 Thanks for having me.

00:39:16.360 So talk to us about this new program. 1.00

00:39:19.340 We've got the first lady out there talking about it.

00:39:21.300 I love, you know, from the perspective of a pro-lifer, you know, I'm a Catholic that,

00:39:27.720 you know, we talk about, you know, stop abortion and that's big in our community and in our

00:39:32.980 audience. But at the same time, I think that sometimes we perhaps can be a bit lax about,

00:39:38.660 you know, spent about spending the same amount of time and energy for kids after they're born,

00:39:43.740 who may have to go into the system for one reason or another, but never, by the way,

00:39:48.640 through fault of their own. So talk to us about the new program and the spotlight the First Lady 0.99

00:39:54.560 is putting on it. Well said. Well, you know, first President Trump and First Lady Melania 0.85

00:39:59.400 Trump have been incredible champions for improvement in the foster care system.

00:40:03.480 Last November they issued an executive order called Fostering the Future which

00:40:07.320 set up a whole of government approach to improving foster care. In so doing,

00:40:12.780 President Trump has been clear the best foster care system is one that is not

00:40:16.560 needed. The best thing we can do is wrap around families, support families, prevent

00:40:21.120 the conditions in which families unravel, but prevention is not possible in all

00:40:26.580 cases there is serious abuse there's serious neglect and in some cases it is in the best

00:40:32.260 interest of the child that they be removed from their family and when that happens in those rare

00:40:38.100 instances in which that is in the child's best interest we need safe loving nurturing foster

00:40:43.940 homes to take care of them right now we have too few foster homes nationally if we have a hundred

00:40:49.460 foster kids come into the system we only have 57 homes to care for them so what happens to the

00:40:55.540 remainder too often they end up in non-traditional settings government offices they end up in hotels

00:41:03.140 or airbnbs things that are just not conducive to the the stable loving environment that many of

00:41:08.740 your listeners were fortunate to grow up with so what we're trying to do is we're trying to increase

00:41:15.300 the number of foster homes nationally relative to the number of foster kids and we're structuring

00:41:21.300 our policies and practices around that by looking at as a ratio it gives us two ways to rectify

00:41:27.380 that first we can shrink the number of kids coming into foster care through effective prevention

00:41:32.580 that's our most important strategy but when prevention is not possible we are trying to

00:41:37.780 recruit and retain more foster families and uh and the target rich environment is families of faith

00:41:45.220 Families with sincerely held religious beliefs and moral convictions.

00:41:50.380 Well, and it's amazing that, you know, you look at the statistics and you find that the families that create the best environments typically are those that have faith at their core, isn't it?

00:42:02.240 If certainly, you know, if every house of worship in the country had just one family who was fostering, our ratio of homes to kids would be four to one.

00:42:11.100 And we would have homes waiting for kids instead of kids waiting on homes.

00:42:15.220 One of the challenges has been is too many states, and unfortunately the previous administration,

00:42:20.220 put in place policies that essentially told families of faith, you need not apply.

00:42:26.220 You know, certain states have required training on use of pronouns.

00:42:30.220 They've required families as a conditional licensure to attest that they would commit to gender transitioning procedures and things like that.

00:42:39.220 And there it is.

00:42:40.220 What that has done is it's created discomfort from people who are willing to open their

00:42:47.020 home and their heart to a foster child.

00:42:50.740 It's deterred them from stepping forward because they worry that the government might put them

00:42:54.360 in a position to violate their sincerely held religious beliefs or moral convictions.

00:43:00.180 What this administration has said is we have too few foster homes.

00:43:03.460 I've never talked to a state that said, you know, my biggest problem is I have too many

00:43:07.280 homes.

00:43:08.280 In fact, we need to recruit more.

00:43:09.960 As I said, we have 57 homes for every 100 kids.

00:43:12.620 So the message that we send to the faith community is going to be really important in helping us achieve that goal.

00:43:21.660 And this is incredible.

00:43:23.120 So you've gone from the previous administration that was actually, you know, I would just say I'm not persecuting, but just just, you know, holding families of faith and people of faith convictions and their beliefs against them to expunge them from programs like this or to oppose them from being a grinding entry to these types of programs to actually realizing that, hey, wait a minute.

00:43:47.500 what's in the best interest of the child what's in the best interest of the system and i'm sorry

00:43:53.060 but you just said this that they some of the kids they end up in hotels or airbnbs like it's like

00:43:58.020 you know when they have the minor flying on the plane and they got the you know the the uh you

00:44:03.700 know the flight attendant is taking you know looking after him i mean that's just it's just

00:44:07.220 and i've got two little kids i mean that's just it's not right it's not right it's not gonna work

00:44:11.140 It's heartbreaking, and our initiative is designed to refocus the system.

00:44:16.980 What's been most exciting to me is states all across this great land are responding to the President and First Lady's call.

00:44:24.480 What we did is, when we rolled out the Home for Every Child campaign, we gave states a chance to negotiate a program improvement plan with us.

00:44:33.040 We will get out of the way.

00:44:34.480 We'll cut red tape.

00:44:35.660 We'll stop making their caseworkers fill out mountains of paperwork.

00:44:38.660 work, but in exchange, those states will report to us monthly their ratio of homes to kids.

00:44:44.580 We'll get more actionable data.

00:44:46.080 We'll see what's working, what's not working, and then structure our education and our technical

00:44:50.500 assistance around that.

00:44:52.260 15 states have already answered that call.

00:44:53.980 This campaign's only been live for 100 days, but we already have 15 states who have stepped

00:44:58.120 forward.

00:44:59.120 A lot of southern states, Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Tennessee, but we've seen bipartisan

00:45:05.780 response.

00:45:07.780 Columbia has joined. Delaware has joined. State of Maryland has joined. So, you know, certainly

00:45:13.420 doing right by kids is not a partisan issue. And I've never seen a child welfare initiative catch

00:45:19.880 wildfire like this. And that really speaks to the leadership and the vision that President and

00:45:24.760 First Lady Melania Trump have elevated nationally around this topic. I mean, my goodness, you know,

00:45:32.500 I think about this. And again, I say as a Catholic, I mean, this used to be something

00:45:36.060 where churches really led the way on and it's been because of the state it's because of states

00:45:42.820 in the federal government um fighting churches and going after churches for our for these programs

00:45:49.640 that they've they said oh we can do a better job and you guys are terrible at it and then they come

00:45:54.180 in they can't do a better job at all in fact in many cases it's it's worse so why not work together

00:45:58.720 it just makes it seems to me it makes so much more sense yeah well certainly in the executive

00:46:03.440 order that I mentioned, fostering the future, one of the major planks is engaging the faith-based

00:46:07.840 community. I know the White House Faith Office has engaged in a lot of conversations. HHS,

00:46:12.800 where I work, has a faith office that we're having active conversations on around how do

00:46:18.000 we authentically engage with the faith-based community. I already gave the stat. If every

00:46:22.160 house of worship in the country had just one member of their body sign up as a foster family,

00:46:27.680 our ratio would be four to one uh so um i think we can do better i think we must do better we

00:46:34.720 must do right by these kids so we're trying to achieve a home for every child we've been excited

00:46:39.040 by the momentum today to 15 states joining us i'd be remiss if i didn't extend the call to

00:46:44.000 all other states to join us in increasing the ratio of homes to kids and i know through the

00:46:48.960 conversations that we've had that we're going to have some other states join us in a very short

00:46:53.440 order is there a site or a you know one landing place where people can go if they do want to get

00:46:59.440 more information about this well certainly the administration for children and families which i

00:47:04.560 run has a website built around a home for every child but ultimately to sign up to be a foster

00:47:09.600 parent it is through your state child welfare agency so each each individual would have to go

00:47:16.800 to their state child welfare agency to see the application process we are trying to make

00:47:21.760 applications easier nationwide we're trying to work with states to cut some of the red tape

00:47:26.400 and make it as easy as possible because when you have a shortage of foster homes and the alternative

00:47:32.080 is kids sleeping in hotels or airbnbs no it's no need to roll out the red carpet we need to make

00:47:38.080 it as easy as possible to wrap around these families willing to step forward

00:47:41.920 no absolutely and especially in so many couples experiencing infertility it just makes sense

00:47:46.720 alex adams thank you so much for joining us here human events daily ladies and gentlemen

00:47:50.160 And as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - April 20, 2026

Camp of the Saints： Grassroots Key to Mass Deportations, A Home For Every Child & CCP Organ Harvesting

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