Charlie Kirk and the Mission Ahead
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Jack Posobiec is a commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran. He speaks to millions of viewers worldwide, and continues to be a regular guest on the host of the Charlie Kirk Show, honoring his friend's legacy while continuing to shape the national conversation.
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This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
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A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
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Chris is the senior editor for politics and Washington correspondent for Blaze Media.
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His work has been featured in the Telegraph, Compact, and American Mind, and the Washington
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Examiner, National View, and the New York Post.
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Jack is the former Navy intelligence officer and has been the leading conservative voice
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As the host of Human Events Daily on Real America's Voice, he speaks to millions of viewers worldwide.
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Jack continues to be a regular guest on the host of the Charlie Kirk Show, honoring his
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friend's legacy while continuing to shape the national conversation.
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Known for his fearless reporting and news analysis, Jack has also secured high-profile
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interviews with influential figures like Vice President J.D. Vance, Treasury Secretary Scott
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We're thrilled to have both Chris and Jack, two powerful voices in the movement, with us
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I'm, you know, you know, can you guys hear us okay?
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Yeah, no, that's the Fed in me, so I appreciate you guys allowing Feds to be here today, the
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And, no, no, it's great to be here, and, you know, it's just incredible.
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One thing, by the way, that people also don't know about us is that we went through the Claremont
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We were both Lincoln Fellows in the same cohort, which Charlie Kirk did, I guess, two
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Yeah, we are the old heads here, but, you know, it's really great to be here, and I
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You know, it's interesting because we had had this scheduled a while ago, and, you know,
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I remember throwing it on the calendar, and they said, are you going to be free?
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And that day in October, I said, yeah, I don't have anything going on, and my schedule was
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And then, you know, I was doing my show at our Real America's Voice studio here, just
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down the street, and, you know, I got the news about, at first it was just a rumor that
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there was a shooting about Charlie, and, you know, then everybody knows the rest of the
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story, and I've only actually, you know, I've been in Phoenix for probably about the past
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three and a half weeks with, with Turning Point, working with Turning Point, working
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with Erica, you know, just, and just, just being there, being supportive.
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And political violence has gotten to the point where we've talked about it for many years,
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I wrote a book about it, I've experienced it, I've covered it, but it's gotten to a point
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now where it is threatening every single person in this room, the guests included, and even
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all of you out there, because if you are a conservative in America today, that is to,
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that means to live your entire life, 24-7, top to bottom, when you wake up, when you're
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going to your car, when you're going to work, when you're coming home, when you're going
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out, when you're taking your kids to school, you could be killed.
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And I went to the White House yesterday, and I was honored to be a part of this, you know,
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panel that we held on left-wing domestic violence that's going on in America.
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And I said the exact same thing, and even said to the president, that, you know, Mr. President,
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the next person who could be assassinated could be sitting at this table right now, and, and
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And so it's gotten to the point in this country, certainly in the wake of Charlie's murder,
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And I think there's a certain profile that's starting to emerge when you look at,
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When you look at the, the Zoomers, I tend to notice there's sort of a, it's, it's like,
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So that's great when you're on the right, because everyone's like cool and based and
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But that means on the left, you turn towards the most extreme possible solutions, which
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Thomas Matthew Crooks attempted to kill President Trump.
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This guy, Tyler Robinson at Utah Valley University, who, I think it's starting to emerge that there's
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some, that, you know, he came from a conservative family, but was rebelling against that, ran in the
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And the ICE shooter down in Dallas as well also fits the same profile.
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The anti-Catholic shooter in Minneapolis fits the profile.
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Also, many of these cases, the, you know, there's a, a tie to transgenderism and that ideology,
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which has directly, direct ties with violence and a extremely high rate of violence.
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And it, and it's, it's just gotten to the point.
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And, you know, to kind of finish that, that thought is it's gotten to the point now where
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if we do not do something about it, we cannot continue as, as a movement, as a party, and
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Something that's been strange, now we learned more about Robinson since, and you see the
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mugshot of the guy we're just beginning to learn about who's behind the fires in California.
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And something that strikes me as a new thing, and something you talked about at the White
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House yesterday, when all the doctors and nurses and lawyers and other people who were
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publicly celebrating the death of a young man who left behind two children and a wife,
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is the rise of the normal looking psychopath, the normal looking radical, the normal looking
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I mean, you used to be able to pick these people out.
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You know, it's, you'd look at the rallies in front of the Supreme Court, you'd see the
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They looked like they were shaken out of the bottom of the can.
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I mean, they are, they are ugly people, and they don't do themselves any favors.
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Well, and there's a reason they gravitate towards that kind of politics.
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There's something, and also I think evil shows itself actually, manifests itself eventually.
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The, um, but nowadays you see a lot of normal looking people.
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How, it's like sleeper cells throughout the country.
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Right, and so, you know, though, like Aaron Burnett went up on CNN last night and said,
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you know, well, you can't go after Antifa because Antifa's decentralized, and, you know,
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And certainly there's, there's a number of front.
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But I kind of turned around and said like, oh, so you mean like, like terrorist cells then?
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Like exactly how terrorist cells have been organized throughout the world.
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Exactly how ISIS operated in the West, by the way, where yes, ISIS had command in the Middle
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East, but of course they would operate cells largely through internet radicalization, internet
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And this is the same thing that we're seeing now.
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That being said, you know, obviously, and I'm not, I'm speaking not from the perspective
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of a turning point when I say this, or, you know, having any inside knowledge about the
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But, you know, when you look at the group of people that Tyler Robinson seemed to be
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interacting with there in Utah, groups like this armed queers of Salt Lake City that seem
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to have some kind of knowledge that something would happen to Charlie Kirk that day, it really
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does ask, you know, make you want to ask the question, was there more out there that was
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And, and I, I, again, I'm not speaking from any inside knowledge on that.
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It's obviously something that Cash Patella said that he's looking into.
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And, you know, it clearly seems to be that there was more to the, to that story than
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And with the, with the idea that people knew about it.
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And the assassination of the president as well.
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And, uh, the, the idea that all of this happened by, you know, it's a lone wolf and it's just
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one guy and it's, you know, case closed and, and I, I, I don't buy that.
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And I've, I haven't, I haven't met people who buy that, you know, people really tend
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to think, and that's just not how these operate.
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So, you know, you, you take it back to where they'll claim that, uh, that left-wing violence
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doesn't exist or they'll turn around and say, oh, well it's, you know, you have to put it
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in context and they'll, they just shove junk studies in front of you to say that studies
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where I've seen that where they classify radical Islamic terrorism as right-wing because they'll
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Go look at some of these studies that like Reuters and the economist and others will post
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and they'll, you'll see, well, wait a minute, this is clearly not right-wing violence.
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This is, this is radical Islamic terrorism.
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And, you know, I would say that's obviously different from left-wing violence as well.
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And, you know, we used to in this country deal with these things like, uh, the seventies,
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eighties, we had a serial killer problem in America.
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We dealt with it, with the FBI getting together, setting up profilers, uh, there's endless TV
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Silence of the Lambs obviously is about this, which I would also point out includes a transgender
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killer, uh, Buffalo Bob, uh, but you know, Thomas Harris understood this by the way.
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Um, so did Alfred Hitchcock when he made psycho again, another cross-dresser who is a murderer.
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Uh, there's clearly something at odds with that denial of reality and that when reality,
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Often when you're confronted with the fact that if you, you've denied reality so much on such
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a deep level that, uh, you have a break with reality that does respond with murderous rage.
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And, you know, this is clearly something that was understood for a long time in the horror
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And that's why there's so many incredible movies that, that include that.
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And yet for, I sit there and I think, gosh, was I the only person who actually followed
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Because it's very clear to me what they were trying to say.
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And it's, you know, look, it's, uh, I, I, I'm at a loss for words when I, when I talk
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about it, you know, sometimes because of all the emotions that I felt since, um, you know,
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since Charlie was killed and, and, you know, it's, you know, and I'm, you know, he was a good
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friend of mine and, you know, it's nothing compared to what the family's gone through, but
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You know, it's, it's the, there's, you know, the shock, obviously the stunningness, the grief,
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But, but to say I was surprised, no, because I knew it was only a matter of time before one of us
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had a shot taken and I never thought it would be Charlie.
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You know, I don't think any of us thought that Charlie Kirk would be the one who was
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killed, but it's something that we've all talked about for a long, long time.
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You'd think it'd be someone who was a little easier to hate and like me or, and, and, and,
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And you know, though, I will say though, I think the reason that Charlie was targeted first
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was because his own existence was so loathsome to these people.
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You know, he exposed them, but, but even more than that, the way he lived his life,
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here's a white Christian male, which is the approved target of everything the left stands
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And he's the, you know, he was the high school quarterback, uh, of the team.
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He goes around having these debates and, you know, sure you could disagree with them.
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And, you know, gosh, I, I used to debate him all the time and, you know, on various issues.
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So we would always go to toe to toe on, on theological issues.
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And it's one of the things I'm going to miss the most, but he did it the right way.
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You know, he never did it with a fist in anger.
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And I think that his success and the fact that he was so successful, not only in front
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And I'm sure there's many people in this room who know, and maybe many others who don't,
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the role that Charlie played in the transition process, which of course the administration's
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talked about publicly, the role that so many staff, I mean, if you go look at the admin
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right now, you will see a, a, I would be surprised to find a staffer that doesn't have some tie
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to TPUSA, or at least having attended one of the events on their resume.
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So many people in so many key positions, not to mention, by the way, his advocacy for J.D.
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Ladies and gentlemen, sometimes you can actually just choose the best person for the job.
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I was shocked and so happy, you know, and, you know, because we all remember the
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refrain, you know, it's got to be a woman, it's got to be a person of color, or you've
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And, you know, and, um, you mentioned Butler, uh, I'll tell a quick story about that.
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You know, Charlie actually asked me to go to the Butler rally and, um, you know, obviously
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we didn't know what happened at the Butler rally and we certainly didn't know what happened
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to Charlie, but it was, it was the night before the Butler rally.
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And he said, Jack, you gotta, you gotta get to Butler, Pennsylvania.
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And I was like, I'm like, Charlie, I'm going to Milwaukee on Sunday.
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Cause remember it was the same weekend as the convention.
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My whole family is flying up to Milwaukee and I just told myself logistically, I don't
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It's not going to work with the flights and all the rest.
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And, um, I, what do you, what do you want me to go to Butler so much for?
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And he goes, cause I want to get you like 60 seconds with Trump to just talk about how
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great JD Vance is and that that's Charlie Kirk on a Friday night, right?
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That he's working, he's, he's plotting, he's scheming, he's trying to figure out how can
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I make this happen any possible way that I can?
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He's like, and I got Jack and I know he's from Pennsylvania and I know we got Trump and
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And, and obviously, you know, it, it, it worked out anyway, but that was Charlie.
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It was, the Libs will say you're a Maryland man now.
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They like to, they have no idea what they're talking about and they will, they will sit
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there and, you know, talk about Charlie in the front of the camera, but behind the scenes,
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And there's so many stories that, you know, normally I wouldn't want to share, but you
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know, just, just because you don't, you don't talk about what goes on behind the scenes,
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but more, more people have now, he was instrumental in putting RFK, Bobby Kennedy and Maha together
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with MAGA, which clearly is what translated into the winning the suburbs.
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It's what translated into taking this movement of healthcare, which the whole media has forgotten
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about this, that healthcare was a left wing issue.
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It, it nominally in American politics, you say, yeah, healthcare is the domain of the left.
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It is controlled by the Democrats and yet through Bobby Kennedy and through Maha, which Charlie
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was like a hundred percent, a huge believer in personally too, by the way, biohacking,
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That's, that was the deal with the, the mid majesty teas.
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Um, that's something that just changed the course of history and Charlie never even talked
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And because they become the man that he was when he started, he was kind of a libertarian.
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It got some things going, but we saw him change on economics.
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Like he became good friends with Tucker and that was after Tucker went hard at him on stage
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I think that was the truckers where they got into it on that one.
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Um, how much, were you friends with him as he made that shift from young libertarian to
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And what can you, what light can you shed on it for our audience about that transformation
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from someone who had ideas about taxes, regulation, defense?
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Um, you know, so I got, I, I got to know Charlie, um, I'd say like 2017 was when the first time
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we met and we just really met on the, on the trail, you know, going in, going to do grassroots
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events together and, uh, doing CPACs or, you know, flip to Chicago once right after I got
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And, uh, we were there with Charlie and, you know, we did this event in the Chicago area.
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It was, remember, it was like right, right before Thanksgiving, we were there and it was
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like freezing cold and there was Charlie up giving a speech and I came up after him giving
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my speech and, and, you know, we did that and parted ways and then I'd see him again.
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Uh, of course, uh, actually, uh, I was in St. Louis once at a, a, a Phyllis, um, Phyllis
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Schlafly Eagles forum, which of course was run by Ed Martin, the great Ed Martin, who's
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And, uh, although I, I'm told that Ed Martin is working late tonight because there's a,
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there's an indictment of a certain New York attorney general that he's working on.
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Uh, you guys may have heard of, uh, have heard of that.
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He, he was, you know, I was trying to get him to come tonight and he, you know, he was,
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he was thinking about it and he said, ah, Jack, I got to work late.
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But I remember Ed comes to me at that event and he said, Jack, you've got a, cause I had
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a rental car and he goes, you had a rental car here, right?
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He goes, can you go pick up somebody at the airport for me?
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He goes, what's this guy, Charlie Kirk, you know?
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I said, oh yeah, Charlie, I'll go pick up Charlie.
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So just stuff like that, you know, getting to know each other from being at events together.
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And then of course in the first admin, um, ubiquitous, uh, he and I, I would say
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they were both mainstays over at the Trump hotel lobby, which was, I mean, if you guys
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think Butterworth's is the place, like the, the, and it's great.
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And, um, but the Trump hotel lobby was just a scene unto itself.
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Um, cabinet members, grassroots supporters, donors, journalists, and the president himself
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would come in, you know, once or twice a month.
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And it was just, uh, it was a moment in time that you can't, uh, you know, you can't ever
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And so you asked me about when Charlie made his, his change and he's always been Christian,
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but he never, you know, he wasn't really like a public Christian before.
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I would credit it to him getting to know Erica and, you know, dating her, which, you know,
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started very early on and, you know, let's, let's just say it, you know, Erica, she was
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more based than Charlie early on, you know, she was just, you know, Charlie was someone
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who, you know, he sort of, he had that, he had that journey that he was on from sort of
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the Midwestern libertarian, you know, staple, uh, staple a green card to the back of the
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We all remember those comments and, and Erica would be the one, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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And, and she is an incredibly devout Christian and would tell him, Charlie, you need to talk
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We know, you know, the Christian right in the nineties, they went, you know, they went
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Um, you know, people, people don't like it when we get too churchy and, uh, and for
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people who know him now, you know, or, or, you know, to where, where he ended up that,
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uh, he could, you know, quote the scripture at, you know, give him a, give him a chapter
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and verse and he could just tell you everything right off the top of his head and eidetic
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And he would spend so much time studying, uh, and reading over and over and over to really
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And I would credit it to Erica who encouraged him to be more public about it.
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I would also credit it to the fact that he got married, like, like so many people, he
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gets married, he, he starts having children and then realizes that there's more to life
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Uh, and you know, really it, it, we don't, we still do the tax cuts.
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Um, but, but realizing that we have to leave a legacy in this world and, um, look, you know,
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uh, Charlie left his legacy a lot earlier than any of us thought that he would, but he certainly
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left a legacy that I think no one's ever going to forget.
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You know, I'm going to ask you one more question and then turn it over to the audience.
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Chris, Chris was, Chris was, um, uh, he was trying to get an image of the Letitia James
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He was like staked out in front of her, in front of her townhouse, but you know, it didn't
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She, she pulled a Comey and like went out the back.
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Um, Erica gave a beautiful eulogy for her husband at the funeral and in it, one of the
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very moving things that she said was that she forgives his killer.
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That's a really wonderful, wonderful Christian thing to do.
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She said she didn't want to have that on her conscience when she answered to God.
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She wanted to see her husband again, but since the dawn of time, part of the duty of defending
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civilization has rested on the men and the people who are willing to take it to the enemy
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and defend their civilization from murderers and barbarians and psychopaths.
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It doesn't seem like the left is actually stepping back voluntarily from this violence.
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Even in the media, they're still talking about it.
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So Antifa is not just going to put down its arms and say, Oh my gosh, we've gone too
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How does the government, you've worked in military intelligence, you've been in Antifa,
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you've been targeted, you've written about this.
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What are some of the concrete steps that can be done as opposed to just throwing up their
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So it becomes like serial killing became a rare thing now and something that's been pushed
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out of society by proper law enforcement or like the assassinations and the bombings of
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the sixties and seventies were, what are some of the steps that can be done to make sure
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that our children don't have to grow up in a world that is, that is spiraling towards the
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And, and by the way, I would just add, unfortunately, you know, for my children who, who knew Charlie,
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And so, and I just, I just point that out for people.
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My children had someone who they considered like an uncle to them.
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Um, you know, they, they lived through seeing president Trump be shot last year.
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Um, they, they know, uh, missed, they call him Mr. Steve, Mr. Steve Bannon, and they saw
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And now they know someone who they know, they personally know someone who was assassinated
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So I didn't let them watch the video, obviously, but this is the world they're growing up in
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And, and all of our kids, you know, for those of us who are parents, you as well.
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And it will not stop until it stopped yesterday.
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For example, Nancy Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi, not, not, not, not some, you know, radical on the
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street in Portland, Nancy Pelosi, uh, as close as they come to, you know, a leader of
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the Democrat party, leader emeritus, maybe she was asked about the comments of Jay Jones,
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who, and, and, and, and a lot of the writeup of those text messages is it pales in comparison
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Not only did he say that a Republican candidates or Republican opponents children should be
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He said that they should be shot and be forced to die in their mother's arms and that she
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should watch this before she and her husband were also killed.
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And then, and he was texting this to a, uh, a colleague who was a GOP delegate.
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He then called her and started berating her about this.
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Nancy Pelosi gets asked about this on CNN yesterday and she says, well, I still understand he's the
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Nancy Pelosi, the, the, the closest you can come to head of the party.
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So excuse me if I'm not going to sit there when, when they ask me, oh, Jack, you going
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Cause the bullets are only coming in one direction, the rhetoric, the violence, all of this, it's
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I said to a reporter the other day, I said, I said, where is this violent, right?
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We responded with vigils and candles and rosaries and, uh, memorial.
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If there was ever a time where if this so-called quote unquote violent right was going to show
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itself, it would have been in the wake of that.
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And I said, show me one example, show me one example of someone on the right being violent
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Look, president Trump has come a long way on this.
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One of the concrete examples that I gave him on, uh, on this is the foreign terrorist
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Uh, the domestic terrorist designation from a policy perspective, it does some good from
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However, it's not, there's no federal law, uh, against domestic terrorism.
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Believe it or not, there are some state laws, but there's no actual federal designation
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So it doesn't unlock the powers of the national security state, the national security
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apparatus, the infrastructure, the, that, that I used to use when I was a member of the
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However, when you look at Antifa structure, when you look at their links to Europe, which
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is where Antifa comes from, Antifa was originally formed in Germany, uh, then spread to Spain,
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of course, Italy, France, the UK, they maintain very strong cells all across Europe.
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And by the way, for them, for the people who say that, oh, they don't have, uh, dresses
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and they have safe houses, you know, I'm more than happy to provide you to them.
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And in fact, we have, uh, uh, yesterday and today, you know, that round table that you
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saw is sort of becoming a sort of a quasi working group, I suppose you could say.
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And foreign terrorists, as well as by the way, training and links to Middle Eastern groups.
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And, and no, I don't just mean Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad and things like that, but other
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groups as well in Syria, um, allows the entire national security infrastructure to be turned
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It allows Secretary Besant to use the powers of the treasury department to go after their
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And it allows the department of justice to roll up any, by the way, not just anyone who
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is funding it, but even involved, allows them to freeze assets of anyone who is, who is
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Number two, um, obviously on a direct level, the joint terrorism task forces, um, that exist
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throughout the country, they've been activated.
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Look, when it comes to a place like, like Portland or Chicago that are clearly in, in open
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defiance of the federal government, I've, I've argued this on the podcast and I certainly,
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uh, mentioned it to the white house yesterday, call in the national guard, they'll call it
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And, uh, certainly that is, that is what needs to be done when, uh, when the governor refuses
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to, but when you have these groups that are clearly operating to obstruct and to kill members
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of the federal government who are enforcing immigration and customs laws, which is the remit
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This is, this is the purview of the federal government.
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It's a, it's an obvious supremacy clause issue.
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And so a limited invocation of the insurrection act to bring the national guard in would absolutely
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And for any of the groups that are involved in organizing this, uh, then you could absolutely,
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you could use the joint terrorism task force to go after them.
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Um, third, and this is actually, it's, it's a good DC, uh, you know, sort of trivia thing.
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So the RICO act and people say, why don't you use RICO against Antifa?
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And, uh, interestingly enough, there's something I didn't even know until recently that because
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RICO was famously enacted against the mafia, uh, RICO requires a list of a, of certain predicate
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Well, as it turns out, because those predicate crimes were designed for mafia, mafioso, mob
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organizations, Giuliani, of course, uses smash the five families in New York.
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Like, rioting is not one of those predicate crimes currently.
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So this is an area where a legislative fix, and I believe Senator Cruz actually has a bill
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And there's some other folks in the house that have talked about it as well.
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This could be a very quick update that's done to the, the RICO act, just to add rioting
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as one of the predicate crimes to be able to start an entire racketeering investigation
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into the organization and everything they touch.
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And sure, and by the way, if the media tells us that they don't exist, then they shouldn't
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Just like, uh, legals voting and getting healthcare.
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They, when they just show up on the school board in Iowa making $300,000 a year.
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So I think we should go to the audience and give you guys a chance to talk to Jack over
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Are there any questions we can go to, or should I keep on going?
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Hey Jack, so you mentioned a lot of instances of transgender violence.
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What about transgenderism do you think engenders such violence?
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Well, I do think that, that it's kind of what I was talking about earlier, right?
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I think the fundamental issue with transgenderism is that denial of reality and that break with
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reality and there's, you know, there's, there's kind of that 4chan meme about it, um, which
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I definitely wouldn't recommend anyone go there where it says you will never be a real
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And that, that really strikes itself to the heart of the matter that because these individuals
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and some of them obviously have mental issues and there's no question, um, but because as
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a society, we've now, we decided to enable these mental, mental disorders and give them
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parades rather than, uh, try to get them the help that they need.
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And in some cases, the institutionalization that they need, uh, they're then given hormone,
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And they are put on this path where it lowers their inhibitions.
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It increases, obviously increases cortisol levels.
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So it creates all sorts of chemical imbalances in the brain as well as enabling this, this insane
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ideation to the point where ultimately they realize, you know, they realize that deep down,
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they can never actually achieve the thing that they want.
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It breeds resentment and self-loathing turned out the self-loathing, the resentment, the
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So anger itself, anger at the world, anger at God for creating the world.
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And then eventually this turns them into angry at anyone who has that, which, uh, which they
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crave, which is, which is happiness and, and being a, a, you know, self-actualized individual.
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And so, uh, they, they will sit there and claim that it's about equality or that it's
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It's about, you know, take your pick of an issue, inclusion, diversity, uh, housing rights,
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And then the weaponization of envy as a political system and, and transgenderism, uh, unfortunately,
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because of all these chemical imbalances, because of this, this direct denial of reality
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It's why, by the way, at the same token, um, that violence is not always directed outwards.
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In fact, much more frequently, it's directed inward where I believe, uh, one of the, you
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know, there's a study that says 41% of transgender individuals will attempt suicide at some point.
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Yeah, at its, at its core, at its beginning is the denial of creation, denial of who they
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And it's hard to get around that kind of mental illness.
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And that's kind of self-loathing and that rejection of God.
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And you know, it, it, it just goes to say, like, we used to have horror movies about this
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and this, it used to be very well understood that someone who's on that path is clearly experiencing
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some kind of break with reality, someone with multiple personality disorder or some form
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Uh, there's, uh, the movie Psycho is directly about this, the movie Silence of the Lambs
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See, there's some of the biggest movies that Hollywood has ever done.
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And I don't remember any, but if you put one movie out like that today, they would say,
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oh, you can't do that because that's anti-trans.
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Matthew Kipta, I'm the chairman of the D.C. Young Republicans.
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We're, I want to say about a month after Charlie's assassination.
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I think when you have an opportunity like this to go after the left as a national and maybe
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of an international ecosystem, the first 30 to 60 days are very important.
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The administration has obviously announced some great stuff.
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Where do you rate them as we come up on the 30-day mark on what are the great things that
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have been done and what is undone that you would now turn your influence to push for and
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that people in this room can, in their own way, push for?
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And, you know, look, it's horrible that it would take something as nightmarish as this
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And, you know, you could say about anything good that happens, you know, I wish that it
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But in this case, boy, I really do, you know, wish these declarations had gone out earlier.
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I'm not saying that it would have stopped it from happening.
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I don't like to play that game of, you know, what if.
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The roll-up of many of the cities, the National Guard deployments have been incredible.
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The activation of the Joint Terrorism Task Forces.
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Because in many of these areas, particularly on the East Coast and the West Coast, where
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you have very well-developed Antifa networks, there's always somebody sort of, you know,
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in the back of one of those JTTFs, the, you know, and do you guys know what JTTFs do I
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It's, that's where local police and federal law enforcement will work together in a fusion
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These were really created, you know, sort of prior to 9-11, but after 9-11, they really
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exploded because the idea was we can share information in these areas and get away from
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the stove piping of intelligence if there is an actual, an information, if there is an
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actual credible terrorist threat to the country.
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They work in concert with the NCTC, which has an incredible director by the name of Joe
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Kent, who works, of course, with our incredible DNI, Tulsi Gabbard.
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Now, there's always a guy somewhere in the back of one of the gang intelligence units
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It might be someone who just, you know, has an ax to grind with it or for whatever reason
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just wants to do the right thing, who has a database of these individuals in their area
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We know in the Pacific Northwest, they go between Pittsburgh, or excuse me, Portland and Seattle.
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We know that on the East Coast, they travel between New York, Philadelphia, and D.C.
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Boston is particularly its own cell, but Boston and New York have some comorbidities, if you
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I would say take all of that, ratchet it up, and the foreign terrorist designation, which,
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you know, and look, the President of the United States put it down.
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He said that he wants it to happen, so, you know, for the rest of the White House staff,
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Let's get that signed, and then actually start taking the fight, not just to the individuals
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in the street, but the individuals who are funding it, the money chains that go back to
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You don't have to do show of hands, but for those of us who are here on President Trump's
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first inauguration on January 20th, 2017, there was a massive Antifa violent attack on that
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Remember, you know, we were told that, you know, Gen 6 was not the peaceful transfer of
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power, but nobody talks about Disrupt J20, which was the Antifa attack on Trump's first
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I would just chase, chased by a mob, and fortunately, I was not the one wearing heels.
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Yeah, I got dragged out to the parties, which are always overcrowded and kind of a mess,
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but if you're wearing a tuxedo, I mean, they know which side you're on.
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So, in the mass arrest, and I had infiltrated the Antifa cell prior to then.
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I was not quite as well-known back then or recognizable back then, so I was sitting in a church right
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here in Northwest D.C., and they were going through all their plans, and if you wanted
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People were bussed in from all over the country.
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Back then, you were able to just kind of sneak in?
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But that's, I mean, gosh, it's almost a decade ago, and all of those people who were mass
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arrested for attacking President Trump's first inauguration violently, smashing limos,
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setting them on fire, setting other cars on fire, smashing Starbuckses, smashing McDonald's.
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They blocked 395, and I was on 395 with my now wife and my brother.
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He's always been my brother, and he also continues to be my brother, and so they block it.
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We're like two cars back from the roadblock, and I just, of course, jump out and start filming
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because it's me and get in their faces, and all, but I want to explain.
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Not only were all of their convictions overturned or the charges overturned, the ACLU then came
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in and sued the government of D.C., the city of D.C., on behalf of Antifa, and they were
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awarded, I believe it was $1.7 million for unlawful arrest by the city of D.C.
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So if you're a D.C. taxpayer, or you were at the time, then your tax money went into the
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pocket of Antifa, paying them for their attack on President Trump's first inauguration.
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That is how bad this situation is, and when you ask me, what else can we do, we have so
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much work to do to tear this out root and stem from the entire system.
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I think we probably have time for one more question, if you have time.
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I didn't know him personally, but I know for you, you lost your friend, and I'm so sorry
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for your loss, and thank you for, you know, talking about him as a person and how you really
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You know, when he died, when he was murdered, there was that initial shock of, like, what
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this horrible, horrible thing that we saw happen to Charlie, but very, very soon after
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that, there was the horror of the way the whole country, half the country was talking
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about him, the horrible things that were, like, out of no, you know, like, this far right,
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this hate-filled thing, this was not a Charlie that I had ever seen or ever heard.
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Conversely, I also heard him described as, like, some podcaster.
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So, somehow there's a message that he's horrible and everyone knows it, and also, oh, he's a
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It feels intentional, and do you have any feeling for, like, you know, who's creating
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Like, who's in charge of this far-left attack on our values?
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Who's in charge of shaping this narrative or trying to shape a narrative, whether it's
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Like, is it, do you think it's coming from D.C.?
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Do you think it's coming from donors or some think tank?
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Like, it's a really strange thing to me to get my brain around.
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Yeah, no, I mean, it's an ecosystem, but keep in mind, you're also dealing with, it's
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You've got, you know, Steve Jobs' widow, Lorraine Powell Jobs, who, you know, who's bankrolling
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the Atlantic right now and has hired a ton of people from some of the worst places in
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You're talking about, like, SPLC-level just hate merchants now being hired over at the
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And so you can point to those specific outlets and talk about them, but what you're also really
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dealing with, keep in mind, is cognitive dissonance.
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And the cognitive dissonance there is that, well, Charlie Kirk must be a fascist because
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And I know Donald Trump is a fascist because that's what the TV tells me every night.
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Donald Trump and Donald Trump supporters must be fascists.
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And if they, and because they are fascists, then yes, it's, you know, they sort of know
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instinctively that they have to say, we don't think that he should have been killed.
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And then you, and then you know what comes next.
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There's always that, but, and even Barack Obama did that.
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When, when Barack Obama was asked about this, he, he said, we don't go into political violence,
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And he, he then went into this litany of smears of Charlie Kirk, and just, just in some cases
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outright lies, claiming that, claiming that Charlie had said, quote unquote, black women
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have substandard brains or something like this.
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He did say Michelle Obama, Tanji Brown Jackson, but those are, but again, he did not say all,
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And so this, they, they do this over and over and over again, because for them to have to
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admit that a good man was killed, that a, a family man, a Christian man, someone who they
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disagreed with, but a good man was killed, this would be an entire repudiation of their
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whole project, because leftist politics is based and rooted in resentment.
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However, there's also this interesting game they play where they never admit it.
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They never admit it to themselves, you know, and I'm, and I'm sure you've seen all the signs
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or, you know, heard the refrain from some Redditor or some like suburban woman, you know,
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You know, and they scream it over and over and over.
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And in their mind, to be good means to be associated with all the things of the left.
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And to be quote unquote bad is to be associated with all the things of the right.
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And I could sit here for years and talk about, or hours, I should say, and talk about how
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I actually track a lot of it back to Jon Stewart and the Daily Show, because he was one of the
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first people that came up in America who started talking about politics, because he didn't
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So he started talking about sport politics as if it was just, you know, sports teams.
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And so the Democrats were like the left were like the good ones and the right were the bad
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And he also, by the way, is one of one of the people who shut down one of the last shows
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that existed in America where both sides would talk to each other.
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And that was Crossfire with with an appearance that he made when Tucker Carlson, a very young
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And he would, you know, he would yell and say, how dare you?
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They were sitting down and having a cordial discussion about the issues and certainly
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But they would this was the really the last show in America where you would see that that
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doesn't exist anymore anywhere on the higher level.
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And one of the people who may have been trying to bring that back and in some way or in a
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modern form was Charlie by saying, look, if we disagree, then prove me wrong.
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Come and and and if I've said something that is you believe is misinformation, then what
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better way to have that out than having a debate on a college campus, the the literal
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And he would always say, if you disagree, come to the front.
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And if someone was there, he wouldn't berate them and he wouldn't make fun of them because
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And he would he would say, hey, you know, if he would see someone was nervous, he would
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He would always let them let them have their, you know, have their say.
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And he would try to meet the person rather than just argue with them.
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So to answer your question, you know, where does it come from?
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It comes from this belief, which is completely widespread on the left and poll after poll
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after poll shows this, that they, to a great extent, don't look at us as people.
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They look at us as people who are are not as as progressive and elite.
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And we have the same values as those, you know, those poor inbred hicks in middle America.
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You know, you know, crawling around on their hands and knees and living off of like the
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bugs or something, which is what they actually think of of middle America, which is a great
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So, I mean, I, I, I know that part of the country and they're good people.
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And I've traveled the country, of course, over the last 10 years and met so many of them.
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And J.D. Vance, by the way, is a living repudiation of everything they say about people from that
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part of the world, but, or that part of America.
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But, you know, it's, it's like on the one text message thread.
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And I joked about the indictment of, of Letitia James, which I completely support, by the way.
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And by the way, I'll say this on Letitia James, because I know it's, it's, it's going viral.
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Political lawfare must be responded to with exact reciprocity, because if it is not, then
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there is no incentive for them to ever do it again.
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That if you don't respond to the James Comeys and the Letitia James and the Fannie Willises
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and the John Brennans and the Clappers, and, and you guys all know the list, if you don't
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respond in, in kind, what's to stop them from doing it again?
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What's to stop them from doing it again to a J.D. Vance or a Marco Rubio or a Pete Hegseth
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And, and so you have to go toe to toe, not with reprisals, not with reactionism, reactionary-ism,
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but with exact reciprocity to say, we are willing to achieve mutually assured destruction.
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And, you know, Chris, you mentioned earlier about how at some point you have to defend
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civilization and you, there must be order for liberty to, you know, to flourish.
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And this, this idea that we have a, we have rule of law, when you mess around with the rule
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of law, when you mess around with the justice system, when you create multiple tiers of justice,
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justice, this is the exact, the exact function that destabilizes a society that can lead you
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Because if your justice system doesn't work, if your government system doesn't work, if
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laws are only followed by certain people, are only applied to certain people and not
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others, then eventually people start to think that a government doesn't have legitimacy.
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And if they could think that the government doesn't have legitimacy, there is a tendency
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I've been thinking about Lincoln's speech at the Lyceum, which we studied together as
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You know, bleeding Kansas is, is, it's been on my mind a lot lately.
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And I don't want, this country has gone to that place before, and I hope to God that
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To leave folks with something to look forward to and to tune into, you're actively involved
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in the work to continue Charlie's legacy and to continue his, continue his work.
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The Charlie Kirk show, you're, you're frequently there.
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You, the great Andrew Colvett, the wonderful Blake Neff.
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What, what can people look to for the future of that show and the voice and what's going
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to be coming at a turning point in these coming weeks, months, and years and the leadership
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that it's going to provide and what you, where you guys intend to, where you, where you
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see yourselves in a tragically post-Charlie world moving forward.
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Yeah, no, um, well, as, as a matter of fact, you know, since it is a Thursday night, uh,
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it is thought crime Thursday and I, I'm actually going to be hosting thought crime on, uh, the
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Charlie Kirk show in just, uh, just about an hour here.
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Um, and graciously CPI has, uh, allowed me to do that from their, their, uh, studio, great
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And, uh, you know, the, the mission continues, the thought crimes will continue and we will
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We will continue, uh, to fight that fight in terms of the show.
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As far as the organization, it's, it's been so incredible to, and horrifying at the same
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time with, to have Erica, who's someone who, I've always been, you know, friends with Erica.
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Uh, she's, she and my wife are very close and, uh, her guidance through this, her steadfastness,
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her, her sorrow, which she's shown, uh, and certainly, uh, being there in the office and
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she comes, she comes into the office, she comes into the office and, and, and works.
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And obviously there's lots of decisions that need to be made and decision points, but,
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but the big decision, the question, do you continue?
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Not a single one of us had a doubt about that because we know what Charlie would have wanted
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And so that's why, you know, that's why I'm, I'm here tonight.
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That's why I'm glad you guys all came out tonight, even, even knowing that these are
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Uh, that's why tomorrow night I'll be going with a number of other people from turning
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point, uh, Benny Johnson and some of our frequent, uh, collaborators like Cliff Maloney
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We're going to get involved in the New Jersey governor's race.
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We're going to be up there in, in Wildwood, New Jersey.
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It's about time someone paid attention to New Jersey because the people always forget and
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It's, I feel like, uh, Scott, I got to give credit.
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He said, Pennsylvania is the new Ohio and New Jersey is the new Pennsylvania.
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And if you look at the voting patterns of this, every single County in New Jersey in
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And Jack Cittarelli, who's a fantastic candidate up against Mickey Shirley, who's just a horrible
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It's just an absolute, uh, disgraceful candidate, you know, lied about our Naval Academy situation
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and won't release her records and all the insider training from Congress.
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Uh, he's got a real chance and he's got, he's within striking distance.
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The mission continues on campus where the numbers, they send me new numbers every week
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You know, it's, we've had a lot of new chapters and new signups, hundreds of thousands.
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I think we're, the number I do, I do remember that I saw this morning, they quote unquote
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We are now turning point USA high school, college chapter.
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We are now at 800,000 student members, 800,000, which is just, just unbelievable.
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It's, I don't even, I can't even comprehend that many students having signed up to some
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And that doesn't even include what we do on turning point action on the C4 side or a turning
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point faith, which is done in the faith community.
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We had 6,000 people when we went back to Utah because we are not canceling the tour.
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We went back to Utah, 4,000, actually about 4,500 in Montana, 4,000 people in Montana.
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The tour is absolutely continuing and we are getting, we're getting, you know, all of Charlie's
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friends to get involved and perhaps even a certain, uh, a certain bearded member.
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Of the current White House will be, will be part of that tour.
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You know, we'll, we'll see if, uh, something like that happens.
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So, so the campus organizing continues, the politicking continues.
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And earlier today we announced that, uh, the culture war will continue.
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And, and if you guys hadn't seen this, uh, the media is losing their minds over it before
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they were losing their minds about the Letitia James indictment that we announced we are going
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to be holding a competing halftime show to Bad Bunny.
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Uh, we are holding a, uh, all American halftime show, which I can, and I'm proud to report
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So, so, so Bad Bunny, you have four months to learn English, not the other way around.
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And, and it's, and it's, it's funny because, uh, you know, they have, you know, people always
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say, you know, it's like, well, Charlie always loved this and Charlie always loved that.
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Well, Charlie always hated the Superbowl halftime shows.
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And well, no, Creed was never a Superbowl halftime show.
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And so just, you know, we got it, we got to keep it accurate around here.
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And, uh, you know, I know I tweeted out a couple of weeks ago, wouldn't it be, you know,
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would it be a shame if Turning Point held a halftime show with Creed?
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We've been guessing in the lineup all day and I can't wait to see it.
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There are conversations, but yeah, and we have a poll up.
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American halftimeshow.com and you can vote on different genres of music.
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And then the number one bullet though, is anything in English, which is phenomenal because
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no, by the way, the, the Superbowl halftime show, the left understands cultural dominance.
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And in the wake of George Floyd and the BLM moment, the, the NFL in a, a very cowardly move
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This is the record management and production company that is controlled by Jay-Z and Beyonce.
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So Jay-Z and Beyonce, the best friends of Barack and Michelle Obama, they have exclusive
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control over who gets to perform at the Superbowl halftime show.
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And I believe that contract, it goes, I think until 2026, possibly even 2029, the left ran
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the table on us culturally while the right was asleep at the wheel.
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And I could sit here and I could complain about it and I could whine about it, but you know
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We're going to put on our own show and we are going to fight them tooth and nail.
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And we are going to put on the best, I can't say legally, I can't say the other event that's
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going on, but we are going to be putting on the best American halftime show that's ever