Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - March 18, 2025


＂Christ is King＂ and the Attack on Christians During Lent w⧸ Candace Owens


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Jack Posobiec is joined by the host of The Candace Owens Show, a Catholic convert to Christianity, to discuss the growing trend of extremists hijacking the phrase Christ is King and co-opting it for their own purposes.

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
00:00:41.240 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
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00:00:51.060 Christ is king.
00:00:52.340 21 pages, and it basically goes into how these extremists online are hijacking religious affirmation,
00:00:59.440 the phrase Christ is king has been systematically co-opted by extremist figures, for which they
00:01:04.060 mention a handful of people you know and love.
00:01:06.280 They mention Jack Posobiec in 21.
00:01:08.240 Jack Posobiec had one of the most, he authored the phrase, amassing a combined 34,000 likes.
00:01:14.240 Posobiec, while known as sometimes polarizing in American discourse, nevertheless used the
00:01:18.120 phrase in its original apolitical context.
00:01:20.100 His posts, while reflective of his broader conservative views, were semantically neutral and devoid
00:01:24.660 of bigotry.
00:01:25.580 They likely represented a historic, normative use of the Christian phrase.
00:01:28.840 Well, there you go, Jack.
00:01:30.640 They're saying, yeah, I guess.
00:01:32.940 However, they then get very mad at Candace Owens and Jake Shields.
00:01:37.120 They're trying to make proclaiming Jesus as king, they're trying to make it illegal.
00:01:44.300 They're trying to smear that whole deal to where people can't say it.
00:01:48.800 Posobiec is right, because this comes from out of nowhere.
00:01:52.140 No one was talking Christ is king, and now all of a sudden the Daily Beast has a story, and
00:01:58.280 these people have to be expelled, and the National Contagion Resource Institute, something
00:02:04.040 invented in 2018, they've now, oh boy, Christ is king, boy, on Elon's X platform, man, when
00:02:13.660 it's used, it's done to slur the Jews.
00:02:18.180 This is a psyop.
00:02:22.140 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
00:02:26.020 We're here in Washington, D.C.
00:02:27.760 Today is March 18th, 2025, Anno Domini.
00:02:31.900 Christ is king.
00:02:33.320 Now, this is a phrase that we play in the intro here on the show every day.
00:02:38.760 It's a phrase that I certainly use pretty much every morning on X.
00:02:42.600 It's also a phrase that is very traditional in the Christian faith.
00:02:46.220 It goes back several millennia, all the way back to the very start.
00:02:50.940 And another member of the Christian faith, a recent Catholic convert, joins us now to
00:02:55.920 discuss this phrase.
00:02:57.740 Ladies and gentlemen, Candace Owens, the host of The Candace Owens Show.
00:03:00.780 What's up, Candace?
00:03:02.100 What's up, Jack?
00:03:03.040 It's so good to be here.
00:03:04.160 You guys do such great work here.
00:03:06.420 Well, I appreciate it, as always.
00:03:07.980 Candace, is Christ king?
00:03:09.560 You know, last I checked, Christ is, in fact, king.
00:03:14.300 And it just seems insane that we are having this exact same debate again when it began last
00:03:20.520 Lent season.
00:03:21.300 And now we're understanding that it was funded by the ADL to produce this report to try to
00:03:27.560 demonize the phrase as if it means something else.
00:03:30.880 And I will say this regarding the ADL.
00:03:32.760 They were the same ones that were also pushing through Congress wanting to redefine anti-Semitism
00:03:37.100 and to include things like the Bible.
00:03:40.420 And so it's incredibly alarming to see this sort of inorganic traffic take place again
00:03:45.400 of trying to make Christians ashamed to assert that Christ is, in fact, king.
00:03:51.500 Well, I think that's right.
00:03:53.180 And see this partnership with members of the ADL, research partners.
00:03:58.480 There's this report.
00:04:00.120 And we'll go through it.
00:04:00.760 We've got a break coming up.
00:04:01.580 But I want to really dig into this because I think there's a broader picture here because
00:04:05.620 I'm starting to see this alignment, a constellation, whatever you want to call it.
00:04:11.180 It is completely inorganic.
00:04:13.120 And that's the perfect word that you used.
00:04:14.760 It's inorganic.
00:04:16.220 This is being done in coordination.
00:04:18.880 There's a stream of this that's going on.
00:04:21.140 There's various people.
00:04:22.420 And one of the big keys of this is that all of the people mentioned to either be slandered,
00:04:28.260 to be attacked, to be considered, quote unquote, extreme or whatever it might be.
00:04:33.260 They're all Trump supporters.
00:04:34.240 They're all Trump supporters.
00:04:36.800 And somehow this all happens again.
00:04:40.300 So I want to understand that here in this Easter season with you and with really just
00:04:46.100 anyone else, because it's all about Easter and it's all about explaining what we do to
00:04:50.700 prepare for that recurrence.
00:04:53.880 Be right back.
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00:06:39.360 So I want to get up this report again because this is very, very dangerous stuff that they're talking about here.
00:06:47.960 They're talking about censorship.
00:06:49.600 They're talking about going after phrases.
00:06:51.320 They're talking about a very basic fundamental Christian faith phrase, Christ is King.
00:06:58.540 And in fact, in the Catholic Church, you can find Catholic parishes all over the place, all over the world.
00:07:06.560 And certainly just in city after city, they were called Christ the King Parish or Institute of Christ the King.
00:07:12.400 Most Catholics can probably name like half a dozen of them off the top of their heads. 0.99
00:07:16.120 It's a super common phrase.
00:07:17.400 You see the iconography all the time, depictions of the Virgin Mary with baby Jesus, and he's got a crown on his head.
00:07:26.520 Or in Poland, there's statues of Christ with a crown on his head.
00:07:31.360 So I want to go back to our guest, Candace Owens.
00:07:35.000 Candace, when it comes to this phrase, is this really what they're upset about, this phrase, Christ is King, or is there something else going on?
00:07:43.300 Because it seems to me that this happening in 2025, the same way these types of things were happening all throughout 2017, once Trump got into office the first time, were actually about dividing Trump supporters and trying to sort of gatekeep who is and isn't allowed to be a Trump supporter or who is or isn't allowed to say a certain phrase.
00:08:04.020 It just reminds me of all the same type of garbage that I dealt with that year.
00:08:09.400 And it's especially telling that the people that are doing this and who are advising MAGA that you have to get these people out of MAGA, expel these people out of MAGA, have never been MAGA.
00:08:22.920 These are the people that have tried to divide and conquer the MAGA from the very beginning.
00:08:26.960 They were the never Trumpers that then reappeared as DeSantis supporters.
00:08:31.200 And then when DeSantis lost, they had no other option.
00:08:33.620 And they're pretending like, you know, we like Trump now.
00:08:35.940 And it's like, no, this is extremely inauthentic.
00:08:38.560 You have been against Trump every step of the way.
00:08:40.400 And I'm supposed to believe now that you're writing these articles, essentially trying to divide Trump supporters, because obviously a very large contingent of us are, in fact, Christians.
00:08:50.400 And by saying, oh, you can be a good little Christian if you just accept that, you know, this phrase is only used by people who are bad Christians.
00:08:58.960 And it's a wacky way to try to divide us, because I think it truly, especially because these attacks keep happening during the Lenten season, that it only strengthens our resolve.
00:09:09.100 I don't think they recognize that a season of penance is a season of spiritual strengthening.
00:09:15.280 You know, like we are committed to prayer.
00:09:16.880 We are every day thinking about why we are going through this season of penance and preparing for Easter.
00:09:24.600 So it's very strange to me, but I found it suspicious that it was the exact same people involved.
00:09:30.180 And so I'd like to take everybody like on a trip down memory lane, 2024, Lenten season.
00:09:35.240 Well, actually, real quick, can I just add, can I just add, it's also during Lenten season when the Lord challenges us.
00:09:42.140 It's a time of challenging and it's a test of faith.
00:09:44.680 And so I fully accept it.
00:09:46.440 I fully accept the challenge of my faith.
00:09:49.300 And I do believe that that is why the Lord is allowing this to take place during the Lenten season, because he is calling us to challenge and reexamine our souls and reexamine our faith to bring us closer to Christ.
00:10:01.340 That's the entire point of Lent.
00:10:02.740 That's the entire point of Easter.
00:10:04.040 And that's why I'm not angry about it, because I think it's both times it has backfired for the people that think they're executing this attack as a win, like, oh, people will take our side.
00:10:16.560 It has backfired tremendously because it has awakened a lot of Christians who maybe are not so committed in their faith.
00:10:22.060 Maybe you've got people who are not going to mass or not going to church every Sunday and they're going, what is this?
00:10:28.140 I've never heard of people being upset about the phrase Christ is king.
00:10:31.720 It's utterly bizarre that this keeps happening.
00:10:33.740 But to take the the further length here to try to produce a report to legitimatize it with absurd, absurd metrics, we've seen an increase of the term Christ is king.
00:10:46.740 Yeah, because you're attacking the phrase Christ is king.
00:10:49.740 Common sense, you're going to see an increase.
00:10:51.300 That's like saying, oh, on 9-11, we see an increase in people saying God bless America, of course, because you guys are randomly choosing to attack this phrase.
00:11:00.880 And then there's this bizarre conflation.
00:11:03.020 You can see who it is they're fearful of.
00:11:05.500 You know, like you're mentioned in this report.
00:11:07.800 Why?
00:11:08.580 Why are you mentioned this report?
00:11:09.880 They're doing this entire thing to say that it's being used as a form of anti-Semitism, as a form to speak down to Jews.
00:11:19.320 And yet they show no example of that when they bring up my name because I've never done that.
00:11:23.720 They don't have shown an example.
00:11:24.960 They're just broadly producing a report and trying to sort of smear everybody all at once and accusing us of things that we've never done.
00:11:32.520 I would never say Christ is king to just speak down to someone.
00:11:36.380 And by the way, I don't think that's possible.
00:11:37.820 I think truth always helps people no matter what.
00:11:40.040 But it was sloppy, and I was very shocked to see Jordan Peterson, who has been so reputable in the past, to acquiesce to something that was so sloppy they didn't even spell psychology correctly in the report.
00:11:53.560 And he's a psychologist.
00:11:54.540 I mean, it was maddening.
00:11:55.700 Well, and here's what it comes down to as well for me is this type of behavior, and I was also very disappointed to see Jordan Peterson's name on there, someone I've always held in the highest regard, because it feels like the behavior of the woke.
00:12:12.160 It feels like a woke-style, longhouse-style, gatekeeping, speech-policing, but also thought-policing kind of exercise.
00:12:21.480 And I remember looking at this saying, like, wait a minute.
00:12:23.620 So you guys are trying to tell me that you can look into my mind, and you can look into Candace's mind, and you know what I'm thinking when I say Christ is king, but you also know what Candace is thinking when she says Christ is king.
00:12:38.960 And so Jack is allowed to say it, but it's a problem when Candace is saying it.
00:12:42.740 I'm like, I reject all of this.
00:12:44.640 I reject all of this completely.
00:12:46.600 Who are you so-called, you know, self-appointed people to be able to, number one, determine who's allowed to say this, again, very basic, really just foundational phrase of the Christian faith, certainly at Easter time.
00:13:01.740 But also, if I'm going to go in there and start having discussions about this, then that's me participating in the struggle session, participating in the show trial, and then, you know, I'm going to come in and act like I'm allowed to determine who's allowed to say that?
00:13:15.300 No.
00:13:15.740 As a Christian, as a Catholic, I want people saying it.
00:13:19.420 Of course I want more people saying it.
00:13:21.020 That's kind of the whole point of having a religious belief is you want that.
00:13:25.840 You want to encourage that.
00:13:27.520 And guess what?
00:13:28.380 You know, whatever someone believes, that's between them and God, okay?
00:13:31.740 And that's the cool thing about being Catholic is, you know what, that's above my pay grade, man, way above my pay grade. 0.90
00:13:36.980 And so, Candace, that's what I think this is.
00:13:39.180 I think this is like a struggle session.
00:13:41.600 It is.
00:13:42.360 And you could definitely see the markers of the fact that this is, in fact, political, and there was nothing here to begin with, and they attacked for no reason.
00:13:49.760 First and foremost, nobody said anything.
00:13:51.740 There was nothing said.
00:13:52.780 There was no event that took place.
00:13:54.220 This report was just released.
00:13:55.440 And the next thing we knew, we had, you know, Jordan Peterson on this rant about the Pharisees, who is not a Christian.
00:14:02.080 You know, this report was done by people who are not Christian, who do not profess that Christ is king, which is more stunning. 1.00
00:14:07.620 I would never have the audacity to do that regarding somebody else's faith.
00:14:11.400 The other thing that was really compelling, and I only realized this afterwards, was they mentioned Jake Shields.
00:14:17.840 Jake Shields then came out after the report and said, I've never uttered the phrase Christ is king.
00:14:21.800 And then you had Andrew Tate mentioned, and he's a Muslim.
00:14:25.420 So what is this about, Jack?
00:14:26.880 What is this?
00:14:27.580 They released this as like Christians must wake up to this.
00:14:30.800 And you have people that do not say Christ is king being featured in this.
00:14:34.560 Well, we do know that Andrew Tate is a Trump supporter.
00:14:36.560 He's a big time Trump supporter.
00:14:37.980 Including people who aren't even Christian. 1.00
00:14:38.500 We've got a quick break coming up.
00:14:40.600 And I think what's going on here is it's political.
00:14:43.200 I think this is political.
00:14:44.140 I think it's the woke light.
00:14:46.300 And I think they're deliberately conflating things because of people they are trying to gatekeep against.
00:14:53.280 And look, that's between you and them.
00:14:56.020 But don't lump me in with things that I haven't said.
00:14:59.040 And don't accuse people of things that they haven't done.
00:15:02.020 We'll be right back.
00:15:02.460 Today, you know, they talk about influences.
00:15:12.300 These are influences.
00:15:14.200 And they're friends of mine.
00:15:16.540 Jack Prasovic.
00:15:18.100 Where's Jack?
00:15:19.000 Jack.
00:15:19.960 He's done a great job.
00:15:23.420 All right, folks.
00:15:24.300 We're back.
00:15:24.760 Human Events Daily, Washington, D.C.
00:15:27.160 Our guest is Candace Owens.
00:15:29.980 We're discussing this report that is attacking people for using the phrase Christ is King.
00:15:35.760 It came out at the start of the Lenten season, the 40 days of preparation for Easter.
00:15:40.560 And, of course, the Lord challenges us at all times the same way that Christ was challenged for 40 days in the desert.
00:15:48.680 It is meant to be a time of spiritual challenge.
00:15:51.920 It is meant to be a time that going through the sacrifice and giving things up for Lent,
00:15:56.720 which is what we do in the Catholic faith and the Orthodox faith, by the way.
00:16:00.140 And they do great Lent.
00:16:00.880 They go hardcore.
00:16:01.620 They go all animal products completely, by the way.
00:16:04.360 So I'm giving up energy drinks, by the way.
00:16:06.320 I've told people I'm giving up energy drinks.
00:16:07.800 Candace, Candace, what are you giving up for Lent?
00:16:10.060 You got something good for us?
00:16:10.820 I'm giving up bread.
00:16:11.220 I'm giving up gluten.
00:16:12.040 And I fast every day until noon.
00:16:14.880 Wow.
00:16:15.440 All bread and all gluten?
00:16:17.760 Yeah.
00:16:18.440 I know.
00:16:18.820 It's pretty tricky.
00:16:19.580 Oh, man.
00:16:19.780 There you go.
00:16:20.260 And then also on Fridays, no meat.
00:16:21.660 So I did a lot this season.
00:16:22.720 Well, on Fridays, no meat.
00:16:23.280 Of course.
00:16:23.560 Yeah.
00:16:23.680 And this is the reason why I felt so prepared for this.
00:16:28.380 Like, I was just so calm about it.
00:16:30.500 And when it happened again, I just said to my husband, this is a gift.
00:16:35.360 You know, this really is a gift.
00:16:36.780 And it is really just a maneuver for Christ is just trying to wake up Christians right now who have just been asleep. 0.53
00:16:44.920 You know, I've been asleep in their faith and haven't recognized that Christianity is under attack all over the world.
00:16:50.120 And you wouldn't know it if you looked at the media.
00:16:51.920 But it's even now arriving in these sinister ways.
00:16:55.520 And from people that we trusted, like I said, I was a huge Jordan Peterson fan.
00:17:00.260 So I was very shocked by this.
00:17:01.720 And I still would love an explanation.
00:17:04.000 Maybe there's something maybe it's something smaller.
00:17:06.820 Maybe they just offered an insane amount of money and he put his name on it and had nothing to do with the study at all.
00:17:12.040 I highly doubt that Dr. Jordan Peterson doesn't know how to spell psychology.
00:17:15.820 So that was a big miss in their report when they spelled it wrong.
00:17:19.820 And maybe that's what it is.
00:17:20.840 Somebody just came with a check and he said, OK.
00:17:23.280 But even that, I think, is significant.
00:17:25.320 I'm glad that it was Dr. Jordan Peterson because it reminds us that we always have to reexamine.
00:17:29.860 What was it like two Sundays ago?
00:17:31.120 You attend the Latin Mass, right?
00:17:32.360 That the gospel, you know, we were talking about Satan, just going over Satan being, I'm sorry, Jesus being tempted by Satan, using scripture to tempt him.
00:17:44.040 And so I really do think that it's even the players here, knowing that we all have this feeling for Jordan Peterson is good.
00:17:49.640 It reminds us, it strengthens us in our resolve.
00:17:51.820 The demons quote scripture.
00:17:54.340 They can quote a chapter and verse.
00:17:55.620 Of course, it's about living it and it's about believing it.
00:17:58.220 Although, by the way, I did notice that someone said that if you want to talk actual scripture, someone mentioned taking the Lord's name in vain is an unforgivable sin.
00:18:06.740 Not true.
00:18:07.760 Not true.
00:18:08.720 Not true.
00:18:09.440 That is not the unforgivable sin.
00:18:10.900 The unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
00:18:13.860 In fact, Christ many times forgave people who attacked the name of the Son of Man.
00:18:19.760 He said so quite directly.
00:18:21.380 This is a huge part of Christianity.
00:18:23.320 And again, anyone who actually took on the true understanding of what it means to be Christian would know that. 0.69
00:18:30.200 That's a basic tenet of the faith.
00:18:32.720 But Candace, I do think it's beyond that.
00:18:34.520 I think there is a constellation of forces that I just kind of call the woke light.
00:18:39.700 And I think the woke light are these self-appointed gatekeepers who are using woke tactics to try to sort of gatekeep, tamp down, toxify, you know, delegitimize, discredit, whatever word you want to use.
00:18:54.780 Back in the day, we used to say de-platform, but they seem to have kind of lost that fight for now at least.
00:18:59.540 Anyone who is either true MAGA, who's been an OG from, you know, from the first term, from the first campaign, which, of course, you are, and then coming around and saying that, oh, you know, this person, you know, we can't associate with them anymore.
00:19:14.020 And then they just come up with a reason why afterwards.
00:19:17.520 Right.
00:19:17.740 And that's so important for people to wake up to.
00:19:20.160 So aside from just this being a call to Christians to pay attention to these divisionary tactics, it also is a call, the more broader implications here.
00:19:28.960 But we're prepared for this because it's just like what they did in the MAGA movement.
00:19:32.160 This is, like I said, the reemergence of never Trump.
00:19:35.460 They're pretending that they're Trump supporters now, but they're doing the exact same things.
00:19:39.340 And they emerged.
00:19:39.940 They were like, we are conservatives, but we're not those kinds of conservatives.
00:19:44.160 Like, you know, these were like the Meghan McCain types. 0.98
00:19:46.060 We're like, we're the good conservatives.
00:19:47.760 And we know that Trump would be terrible.
00:19:50.420 And if you are a dignified conservative, you will follow us and not get behind this man.
00:19:54.520 And by follow us, what they really meant was vote for Hillary Clinton, by the way, to be clear.
00:19:58.080 These were the two candidates.
00:19:59.300 And they were vocally against Donald Trump.
00:20:01.300 They preferred Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.
00:20:03.700 That should tell you everything.
00:20:05.220 It's these exact same people.
00:20:06.780 Jordan Peterson was not a Trump supporter for many years.
00:20:08.640 He said things about Donald Trump that he didn't like.
00:20:10.580 And I don't think he's ever pretended to be a Trump supporter.
00:20:13.020 But we are seeing these exact same people now do this within the MAGA movement.
00:20:19.060 They're saying, OK, well, now we realize that we can't beat Trump.
00:20:22.340 He can't run again.
00:20:23.180 He's the president.
00:20:24.100 But can we infiltrate this movement with the exact same tactics and say, you know, you're a good MAGA.
00:20:30.040 You're a good MAGA.
00:20:31.480 But this person over here, that's an extreme MAGA.
00:20:34.220 And you're going to have to pull yourself away from them.
00:20:36.560 No, it's a nonsense.
00:20:37.700 And we all have to be smart.
00:20:38.980 And they are in fact.
00:20:39.720 I don't even think they're on the right.
00:20:40.760 I mean, I wouldn't even call them woke, right?
00:20:43.280 But yeah.
00:20:44.800 No, in fact, they are the ones who are woke.
00:20:46.800 They are the woke light.
00:20:48.440 They two will be right back.
00:20:49.320 One more segment coming up with Candace Owens here at Human Events Daily.
00:20:52.600 And Jack, where is Jack?
00:21:03.280 Where is Jack?
00:21:05.560 Where is he?
00:21:06.720 Jack, I want to see you.
00:21:10.360 Great job, Jack.
00:21:11.780 Thank you.
00:21:12.520 What a job you do.
00:21:13.960 You know, we have an incredible thing.
00:21:15.320 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad.
00:21:17.660 But we have guys.
00:21:19.080 And these are the guys who should be getting policiers.
00:21:22.600 All right, Jack Posobiec.
00:21:24.520 Here we are back at Human Events Daily.
00:21:27.180 We're talking with Candace Owens about this strangely political attack on the phrase Christ is king, which comes at Lenten time, which is an attack that really comes on people.
00:21:38.000 Look, folks who use the phrase Christ is king, like, I don't know, like my family members, like everybody I go to church with, or anyone who prays the rosary, or just makes, again, the basic fundamental prayers at church.
00:21:54.960 Or when you pray in Latin, these are very simple phrases.
00:21:58.680 But it also comes at a time when it's very strange, because the people who are making this assertation say they're just concerned.
00:22:05.660 They're concerned for Christians.
00:22:07.180 They're so concerned that Christians are doing the right thing, even though many of the people who are spreading this thing are not Christian themselves.
00:22:14.100 You have atheists, you have agnostics, you have members of other faiths.
00:22:18.280 And so it's quite strange.
00:22:19.820 I mean, I appreciate your concern, I suppose.
00:22:22.940 But, you know, there's a lot more that's going on in the world.
00:22:26.180 Even CNN earlier today was, because it's going so big and so obvious, that they admitted the minority and Christian slaughters that are going on right now by the Islamicist government of Syria. 0.96
00:22:40.440 That this government that's taken over, which, by the way, is receiving billions of dollars in aid from the EU.
00:22:46.340 And I certainly hope they're not receiving any aid from the United States right now.
00:22:50.100 We'll have to look into that.
00:22:51.300 I'll have to call up Elon Musk and get him on that one.
00:22:53.640 But they're slaughtering these minority groups. 0.99
00:22:56.660 There's Christians being killed all over the Middle East.
00:22:59.620 And there's not a peep about it.
00:23:02.000 Candace, why is that?
00:23:03.400 Why are they so concerned about what people are saying online, these phrases, and then they try to read our minds and talk about us in such a way when there's actual atrocities against Christians going on literally right now?
00:23:17.520 I view them as opposite sides of the same coin, to be honest with you.
00:23:20.920 You know, what's happening here is sort of this suppression of saying Christ is king.
00:23:26.080 What's happening over there is Christians are actually being slaughtered.
00:23:28.600 And I've long begun to see this circumstance in which they want to divide Christians in the East and Christians in the West to divide their concerns.
00:23:38.240 I mean, it's an absolute nonsense that you would be pretending to care about Christians as you're telling them not to declare Christ as king.
00:23:43.940 That declaration is necessary, as necessary as it is true. 0.76
00:23:46.900 And so they are hoping, I think, to fracture as a first step, to just fracture the Christian faith in America. 0.96
00:23:53.560 And I think the opposite is happening.
00:23:54.980 I know it's certainly true of the Catholic Church.
00:23:57.320 Membership actually went up last year.
00:23:58.900 People that were being baptized Catholic actually went up last year.
00:24:01.340 And I do think in large part it is due to these, like, overly gratuitous attacks on our faith.
00:24:07.020 And what naturally happens then as well is because people awaken and they become more committed in their faith, they begin to pay attention to what's going on around the world, whether you're speaking about what's happening in Congo.
00:24:16.680 As I began speaking about last year and now people are going, what's happening over here, Syria?
00:24:21.960 You know, I said immediately when I started to understood this issue and it was not a favorable thing for people to hear, the fall of Assad.
00:24:28.440 I said this is not going to be good for Christians. 1.00
00:24:30.280 I know that he was protecting Christians and irrespective of what you've read about him, there's obviously now going to be a lot of Christians that are going to die in Syria.
00:24:38.480 I said that in December.
00:24:39.320 That now is the circumstance today.
00:24:41.700 And Nigeria, I mean, there are so many places where you are having these attacks against Christians, violent attacks against Christians that are taking place.
00:24:50.900 And there's just completely mum in the media about them.
00:24:54.060 It's like our faith doesn't exist.
00:24:55.900 And that's on us, by the way.
00:24:57.240 I want to be clear.
00:24:57.860 I don't put that on the media.
00:24:59.580 I don't put that on somebody else's faith.
00:25:01.260 I put that on us Christians.
00:25:02.640 I put that on the people who declare Jesus Christ, but stay mum on an attack like what happened last week when you see nobody did anything and suddenly a report is being produced.
00:25:13.160 Or people who stay mum when they try to quickly pass something in Congress, making parts of the Bible wrong.
00:25:19.700 You know, it's something that you could potentially be arrested for that, you know, tried unsuccessfully to pass that.
00:25:24.820 There's a phrase that you used last year, and I use it as well.
00:25:30.680 And you talked about being Christian in public, right?
00:25:34.980 Being Christian in public as opposed to just being Christian in private.
00:25:38.820 What does that mean to be Christian in public?
00:25:40.940 It means persecution, first and foremost.
00:25:44.420 It's something that you should understand.
00:25:46.040 And so in the way that I've never felt closer to my faith and when I understood that, right, to be a Christian is to be persecuted. 0.86
00:25:54.180 And that's OK.
00:25:55.000 It's OK that you're going to get tons of comments after we have this today.
00:25:59.800 You've got people tweeting at you on X, calling you names, saying whatever.
00:26:02.900 People angry at you for not understanding the report, Jack, because you stood up for your faith.
00:26:07.160 And you remember that the cross that we bear is nothing.
00:26:10.440 He wore the thorny crown.
00:26:11.920 And I have bad news for everybody who doesn't want to hear this.
00:26:14.540 He will rise.
00:26:15.360 OK, we are in a Lenten season.
00:26:16.800 He is going to rise.
00:26:18.560 And so an element for me of living my faith out loud was when I started to realize this last year.
00:26:23.640 And it came to me like a flood because I had never realized I didn't see it.
00:26:27.160 Um, was just praying in public, small things that I didn't do.
00:26:31.780 And I don't know why I didn't do it, Jack.
00:26:33.260 I can't go back to why that was.
00:26:35.160 But praying in public before every meal, letting people know that you are a Christian and you're
00:26:40.500 proud to be a Christian and that you accept that task that feels so minor, right?
00:26:45.120 I mean, it's like, oh, I've got a deal.
00:26:46.780 Jack, we've got to get offline and deal with mean tweets on the Internet.
00:26:50.040 Go watch The Passion of the Christ and remind yourself of how blessed we are that that's the
00:26:55.740 cross that we have to bear and be strengthened, be happy.
00:27:00.540 And every every time I go to mass and I pray, I'm grateful for the challenges.
00:27:05.300 Like genuinely, I was so happy to see this attack.
00:27:09.400 And I know that sounds totally crazy for people who don't have that prayer or don't have that
00:27:14.360 love for the Lord.
00:27:15.520 But I was just going, thank you for this challenge, because I know that it is just going to awaken
00:27:21.440 more of your soldiers that are in this world.
00:27:23.880 And so it's a beautiful thing.
00:27:25.460 We should be happy that it happens.
00:27:26.940 And I want people to walk away with that uplifting message about what it really means to be a
00:27:30.820 Christian.
00:27:31.400 It's smiling when you're being persecuted.
00:27:34.480 That's how wonderful it is to be a Christian.
00:27:37.340 Amen.
00:27:38.160 And look, if all it takes for us is a couple of people being mean online compared to what
00:27:43.500 our Lord did for us 2,000 years ago, I'll take it.
00:27:49.180 I'll take it every day.
00:27:50.180 It's nothing.
00:27:51.020 It's absolutely nothing compared.
00:27:53.100 I know you've got to run.
00:27:54.600 Everybody knows where to follow you.
00:27:55.820 But give us your coordinates anyway.
00:27:57.840 You guys know my show every day is on YouTube at 3 p.m.
00:28:00.920 Actually, 4 p.m.
00:28:01.740 Eastern.
00:28:02.100 We go live.
00:28:02.960 And thanks to all of you.
00:28:04.520 Our platform has been bigger than ever before.
00:28:06.200 I don't even consider it my platform.
00:28:07.660 It is the Lord's platform.
00:28:08.640 Everything that's happened over the last year was meant to happen.
00:28:10.500 And I'm just grateful for you guys for enjoying the content, enjoying everything that we do
00:28:15.000 and allowing us to live our faith out loud.
00:28:18.180 You know, and I've learned so much from you.
00:28:19.600 I have so much to learn.
00:28:21.080 And just thank you, Jack, for being a leader.
00:28:23.360 Obviously, you are like expert level Catholic.
00:28:25.840 You're like George with your theology.
00:28:27.380 I'm trying to get there as quickly as possible.
00:28:29.140 We're always just trying.
00:28:32.320 There's no such thing as a good Catholic. 1.00
00:28:33.580 You're just trying to be one.
00:28:34.860 Candice, God bless to you, to the family in this season.
00:28:38.840 And by the way, happy Easter.
00:28:41.160 Happy Easter.
00:28:43.320 God bless.
00:28:44.360 All right, folks.
00:28:44.840 That is Candice Owens. 0.90
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00:29:48.300 All right, folks, President Trump, switch gears here for a little bit because there
00:29:53.060 is massive breaking news out of the White House.
00:29:56.060 President Trump has just finished an incredible marathon hour and a half speech, not speech,
00:30:05.920 phone call with Vladimir Putin, with the president of Russia.
00:30:11.420 And this is something.
00:30:12.440 Now, by the way, when you hear that, and the mainstream media is going to say this over
00:30:15.400 and over, the legacy media will say hour and a half, hour and a half, hour and a half.
00:30:18.720 It's 45 minutes.
00:30:20.000 It's 45 minutes because there's translation.
00:30:22.040 And having been in situations where there's translation, a good rule of thumb is just cut
00:30:26.840 that number in half because there's always going to be time where they have to translate
00:30:30.940 it into Russian or Putin, then they have to translate it back to English for Trump.
00:30:34.780 I was at the Helsinki summit in Finland in 2018 between the two presidents, the first time
00:30:40.680 they ever held, I think the only time they ever actually held a summit.
00:30:42.900 And it was, it was the same way.
00:30:44.880 So it's really only about 45 minutes, but we've got a readout from the White House.
00:30:49.800 We've also got a readout from the Kremlin.
00:30:51.880 So this is something, look, we've been talking about it here for the last couple of weeks,
00:30:55.400 and I want to get everyone on board with this.
00:30:58.160 This is why we went all with understanding what's going on.
00:31:01.340 This is about not just an end to the Ukraine war.
00:31:04.360 This is about preventing World War III from happening and potentially a massive, massive
00:31:12.260 peace treaty or some kind of deal between the West and Russia, something that a lot of
00:31:19.260 people said should have happened after the Cold War and really never went down the right
00:31:24.280 way.
00:31:24.640 You had the Clintons in the 1990s, you had the neocons throughout the 2000s.
00:31:29.000 And then, of course, you had the Crimea crisis, which is, I believe, 11 years ago, either today
00:31:34.920 or yesterday, it was the actual anniversary of the annexation of Crimea.
00:31:39.100 And now, of course, the Ukraine war that's taken place.
00:31:42.720 And so there's been a lot of talk about places, not of disagreement, like Ukraine, obviously,
00:31:48.080 but also places where perhaps the United States and Russia could work together, including places
00:31:54.580 where we've historically worked together, like the Middle East.
00:31:58.040 And so the readout actually came out from both sides as we were here on the show live,
00:32:04.000 of course.
00:32:04.820 So I haven't had time to go through all of it yet.
00:32:06.820 But one thing that I have really keyed in on is the fact that they are talking quite extensively.
00:32:12.020 And you saw this earlier this week with President Trump, as well as Wyckoff on the Special
00:32:16.820 Envoy Wyckoff on Face the Nation, talking about the Black Sea and talking about specifically
00:32:24.020 access to the Black Sea.
00:32:26.440 This, of course, has been something that I've been talking about here on Human Events Daily
00:32:30.160 for three years.
00:32:31.960 The city of Odessa, as well as the city of Nikolaev, which folks will remember that myself
00:32:36.780 and Kevin Posobiec traveled to on our own all the way back in May of 2022, just a few weeks
00:32:43.180 after the war began, while there was fierce fighting still in Kherson, we traveled to Odessa.
00:32:49.380 We then traveled to Nikolaev, the same area where the Russian naval fleet, even the current
00:32:54.540 naval fleet of Russia, was really built at those Nikolaev shipyards.
00:32:58.360 These are key ports on the Black Sea.
00:33:01.180 That's what this is all about.
00:33:02.540 This is what Crimea has been all about. 0.91
00:33:04.600 It's about that massive naval station at Sevastopol.
00:33:08.060 And it's all about access to the Black Sea through the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles,
00:33:12.780 which allows Russia to have that warm water port.
00:33:16.920 By the way, you want to talk about the importance of this area?
00:33:19.360 Where was World War II really put to bed?
00:33:22.220 Well, that was Yalta.
00:33:23.480 All right, everybody remembers Yalta.
00:33:24.880 But where was Yalta, ladies and gentlemen?
00:33:27.200 That's your trivia question.
00:33:28.180 Where was Yalta?
00:33:29.300 It was on the Crimean Peninsula.
00:33:32.580 Yalta is, in fact, a city in Crimea.
00:33:35.760 Americans may not realize this.
00:33:38.100 So here we are back again.
00:33:40.140 We're back to Yalta.
00:33:41.600 Things like Yalta 2 has already begun.
00:33:45.280 Be right back.
00:33:45.840 We'll have more on this after the break.
00:33:47.240 Human Events, the other continues.
00:33:56.320 Jack is a great guy.
00:33:57.880 He's written that fantastic book.
00:33:59.560 Everybody's talking about it.
00:34:00.760 Go get it.
00:34:01.920 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
00:34:05.840 And we're going to turn it around and make our country credit.
00:34:08.840 Amen.
00:34:09.320 A high-stakes phone call today between President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin.
00:34:15.280 We're getting down to a very critical stage.
00:34:18.700 It's believed to be the first time Trump and Putin are speaking to each other since Ukraine agreed to a 30-day ceasefire with U.S. negotiators a week ago.
00:34:26.240 Still no guarantees from Russia.
00:34:28.260 But it's a bad situation in Russia.
00:34:30.420 And it's a bad situation in Ukraine.
00:34:33.200 What's happening in Ukraine is not good.
00:34:35.720 But we're going to see if we can work a peace agreement.
00:34:39.200 Both leaders said to discuss the future of the war in Ukraine, including possibly how land and assets in Ukraine could be divided.
00:34:46.380 The White House yesterday sang one point of discussion.
00:34:49.060 Who will control the nuclear power plant on the border of Ukraine and Russia?
00:34:53.120 All right, Jack Pacific back live.
00:34:54.440 Human Events daily.
00:34:55.360 President Trump finishing up this round-robin call with Vladimir Putin there from the White House to the Kremlin.
00:35:05.140 And this, of course, we've been discussing it over the course of the last couple of weeks.
00:35:08.600 Look, this is really big because there's information that's been discussed, and certainly President Trump mentioned this a little bit, on Air Force One recently.
00:35:18.120 Special Envoy Whitcoff, who has now been completely just really taking the face of these negotiations, as well as negotiations in the Middle East.
00:35:27.460 So he's got just an incredible amount of responsibility in his portfolio right now.
00:35:34.600 Talking about land agreements, talking about territory, talking about which territories will continue to be part of Russia, which, if any, will revert to Ukraine that are currently in the fighting.
00:35:47.820 And New York Times has a huge report that all of this potentially could come down to the city of Odessa.
00:35:54.700 Odessa, of course, being the key Ukrainian port on the Black Sea, but a city, of course, that was historically part of the Russian Empire.
00:36:04.120 And we've talked about the geopolitical importance of Odessa for years on this program.
00:36:08.940 We went to Odessa on this program.
00:36:11.820 You know, I'm not trying to toot my own horn on that, but I'm just trying to say that this is how far we've gone to highlight the importance of Odessa.
00:36:19.600 In fact, in my desk at home, I keep a jar of sand from the beach of Odessa that's right there.
00:36:27.020 And in fact, we have some photos from my brother and I were there about the landmines on the beach, that this is what it's all about.
00:36:34.640 This is about control of the Black Sea because the Black Sea is this is the gateway to empires.
00:36:40.120 This is the friction point between east and west, the city of Istanbul, formerly known as Constantinople, directly south, almost directly south of Odessa, across the Black Sea, towards the opening to the Mediterranean, towards the opening to Athens, Greece, and then to the wider Mediterranean, Rome, and eventually the entire world.
00:37:05.340 So that's what it's all about.
00:37:35.340 It's all about to join the Russian Federation.
00:37:37.760 The U.S., of course, is negotiating directly with Russia now.
00:37:41.240 You see this, by the way.
00:37:42.360 Where are the Ukrainians? 0.98
00:37:43.400 Where's Zelensky?
00:37:44.380 Well, he was thrown out of the White House and he hasn't been back.
00:37:48.340 I went to visit him in the Ukrainian presidential complex, as well as a delegation directly from President Trump and the White House.
00:37:57.280 He was presented a term sheet.
00:37:58.720 He rejected it.
00:37:59.700 He then rejected it at the Munich summit with J.D. Vance and he rejected it in the White House with President Trump.
00:38:06.300 So that's the three denials.
00:38:07.420 The three denials of Zelensky there of this mineral deal and of this term sheet.
00:38:12.660 You're also hearing information regarding assurances that they do not want NATO to enter into the security situation further.
00:38:23.580 You're hearing, because there's constantly noise from the British, from the French, that they're going to send troops in, a peacekeeping force.
00:38:29.840 And this has been completely and just categorically rejected by the Russians out of hand.
00:38:33.560 They don't want to see this.
00:38:34.740 And in fact, they've gone so far as to describe them as saying that if you enter Ukraine, we will consider you enemy combatants.
00:38:41.340 And finally, there's been some talk as well from the intelligence chief of Ukraine, Budinov, signaling perhaps a collapse of, it's tough to say because this is all, you know, through leaked reports, but perhaps of the front, perhaps of the entire Ukrainian armed forces by midsummer.
00:39:00.860 So midsummer 2025, do they have gas in the tank to be able to go further than that, even after the current collapse of Kersk?
00:39:08.720 Now, we're told that President Trump received assurances from Putin on the phone call just now regarding a 30-day renunciation of strikes on energy infrastructure by the Russian Federation into Ukraine, of course, going, if things are heating up.
00:39:24.980 So going into spring, going into summer, they talked about an initiative regarding the Black Sea.
00:39:29.840 Putin called for the complete cessation of military aid to Kiev.
00:39:35.080 This is the key condition for resolving the conflict of Ukraine, by the way.
00:39:39.420 And finally, Putin confirmed to Trump that the Russian Federation will guarantee the lives and decent treatment of Ukrainian soldiers if they surrender in the Kersk region.
00:39:48.420 Remember, we talked about Kersk being part of Russia.
00:39:50.800 There's also talk about a prisoner exchange that could take place as early as tomorrow, hundreds of prisoners on either side.
00:39:58.260 This is fast moving.
00:39:59.740 This is high development.
00:40:01.000 I'm going to be on War Room in a couple hours with Steve Bannon talking about this in greater depth.
00:40:06.500 I'll have to sink my teeth into it just a little bit more.
00:40:08.540 So stay tuned because every single day, the world changes and human events will be here to bring you the inside story.
00:40:15.500 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.
00:40:17.980 I'll have to sink my teeth into it.
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