Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - December 15, 2025


Conservative Student Murdered At Brown University, Far-Left Group Arrested In LA


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47 minutes

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164.69225

Word Count

7,864

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531

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

33


Summary

Jack Posobiec is a commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran. He is a regular contributor to the New York Times, CNN, CBS, NPR, and other media outlets. Jack is also the host of the popular podcast, The Poso Daily Brief.


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00:00:49.260 Christ is king.
00:00:50.720 It's a great day for a football game, and it's a great day for a Navy victory here at the Army-Navy Game.
00:00:59.360 America's Game.
00:01:10.080 He's okay.
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00:01:11.720 He's just shouting out Matan.
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00:01:14.120 He's okay, folks.
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00:01:16.160 You know, I know that Matan Evan, I know some people were saying that they didn't quite get him.
00:01:22.140 That he didn't quite, didn't quite, weren't quite feeling his vibe.
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00:01:27.360 That's where Gen Z is going.
00:01:29.020 Fall out from a deadly attack on U.S. soldiers in Syria.
00:01:32.160 U.S. military aircraft can be seen flying over Syria after President Trump vowed retaliation for what the Pentagon says was an ISIS attack.
00:01:40.560 Two U.S. service members and one American civilian interpreter were killed.
00:01:44.280 Mr. President, will the U.S. retaliate against ISIS?
00:01:48.320 Yeah, we will.
00:01:49.460 Federal authorities say they disrupted a credible terrorist threat, arresting four alleged members of a radical pro-Palestinian extremist group accused of planning coordinated New Year's Eve bombings in Los Angeles.
00:02:00.460 The defendants are all radical anti-government members of the Turtle Island Liberation Front, which, according to their own social media, is an anti-capitalist, anti-government movement that calls for their associates to rise up and fight back against capitalism.
00:02:17.620 Speaking news in two horrific mass shootings, one on the campus of Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, and another on Australia's iconic Bondi Beach.
00:02:26.260 In Sydney, Australia, this man is being hailed a hero for wrestling the gun away from one of the alleged attackers the Jewish community targeted on the first night of Hanukkah.
00:02:35.720 Authorities confirmed that an ISIS flag was found inside a vehicle linked to the suspects.
00:02:41.760 At Brown University, terrified students were seen running from gunfire as others barricaded themselves inside classrooms.
00:02:48.240 Two students were killed and nine others injured.
00:02:51.000 One of the victims has ties here in Birmingham.
00:02:53.220 The pastor of Cathedral Church of the Advent says Ella Cook was killed in the shooting and was a member of the church.
00:02:59.480 Those of you who knew her, she was an incredible, grounded, faithful, bright light.
00:03:05.340 Not only here, growing up here at the Advent, the ways in which she encouraged and lift up those around her.
00:03:11.620 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard.
00:03:16.640 Today's edition of Human Events Daily here live on Real America's voice to say is December 15th, 2025, Anno Dominic.
00:03:28.220 A violent weekend this weekend here in the United States as well as in other parts of Western civilization.
00:03:36.060 And yes, Australia is part of Western civilization.
00:03:40.400 So this Saturday, I had the honor and I'd like to say thank you to the White House for allowing me to accompany President of the United States in the motorcade as the new media seat.
00:03:50.920 They're covering the Army-Navy game, America's game and go Navy, because glad to see Navy pull out the win one point.
00:03:57.880 Then traveled up to New York City, gave this, gave this address at the New York Gala.
00:04:04.280 But little did we know that horrific violence would be going on throughout this entire time.
00:04:11.600 And the breaking news as of last night, the identity of the first victim of this shooting at Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, Ella Cook, a sophomore, the vice president of the college Republicans, one of the only conservative groups on campus.
00:04:32.260 There was a person of interest who was identified, was brought in and detained by police and law enforcement, but has now been released.
00:04:40.360 And they're saying that the evidence is pointing in a different direction.
00:04:44.880 We need to find out what happened to Ella.
00:04:47.300 We need justice for Ella.
00:04:49.080 We need answers for Ella.
00:04:52.300 Ella's family will not have her home this Christmas.
00:04:55.800 She's a conservative.
00:04:57.820 Told she's a Catholic from Alabama.
00:05:00.360 worked so hard to get into Brown University.
00:05:06.540 And a gunman shot her in the head and killed her.
00:05:09.920 At a time when we're seeing so much terrorism and so much political violence.
00:05:15.120 And this comes just three months, three months after the murder of Charlie Kirk.
00:05:22.740 So we need to know.
00:05:24.360 We need to know exactly what happened.
00:05:26.500 And we really need to know why it is that it's been so long and they don't have any pictures.
00:05:32.200 They don't have any images.
00:05:33.280 They have this one, you know, the guys in black walking around.
00:05:35.820 You can't see anything.
00:05:37.240 What's going on?
00:05:38.420 What are we even doing here?
00:05:40.420 What are we even doing here?
00:05:42.160 So then, and we'll talk about this in the next segment, horrific terrorist attack that we woke up to Sunday morning out in Australia.
00:05:51.700 This Hanukkah celebration on the beach, something that's been done a lot.
00:05:56.280 Remember Australia?
00:05:57.460 Okay, it's the different seasons.
00:05:59.680 The opposite seasons land down under.
00:06:01.240 So they're on the beach having the celebration and are shot up by migrants.
00:06:07.800 Shot up by migrants from the Middle East yet again.
00:06:12.740 When is the West going to wake up and understand that these third world migrants are not interested in assimilation?
00:06:21.620 They are interested in murder.
00:06:24.000 They are interested in looting.
00:06:26.060 They are, they are, they are destroying.
00:06:28.660 They are destroying our countries either through their economic drain on our countries or on the literal drain of blood.
00:06:38.280 The drain of blood that like a sieve that is dripping from Western civilization caused by these migrants.
00:06:46.000 Yeah, I said what I said.
00:06:47.740 And as President Trump said, they're poisoning our civilization.
00:06:52.580 Then, then we have this group out in Los Angeles and Andy Ngo is going to be joining us in a little bit.
00:06:58.700 We'll talk about them as well.
00:06:59.760 The Turtle Island Liberation Front, a far left group that was planning bombings.
00:07:05.300 Wake up, folks.
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00:09:12.380 I want to bring on now Will Chamberlain, Article 3 Project.
00:09:16.360 Will, how are you today?
00:09:18.240 Always good to be with you, Jack.
00:09:19.400 Happy birthday.
00:09:20.120 Happy birthday.
00:09:21.080 Thank you.
00:09:21.660 Oh, yeah.
00:09:22.240 Yeah, I appreciate it, brother.
00:09:23.860 So, Will, we woke up this morning, or excuse me, yesterday morning to this horrific attack out in Australia.
00:09:31.680 What do we know about the attack and specifically the attackers in this case?
00:09:37.260 The attackers are a father and son of Pakistani origin, Pakistani immigrants to Australia.
00:09:46.580 The son was apparently a devoted student at one of the local mosques.
00:09:50.540 There's pictures of him in front of Islamic texts with the imam talking about what a good student he was.
00:09:57.760 And they just decided to go on an all-out rampage at a Hanukkah celebration on the beach with just, you know, the Australian Jewish community is not big.
00:10:06.540 It's only 50,000, some strong.
00:10:08.180 So, you know, 100, I mean, they were just attacked.
00:10:10.780 I mean, I think 10 victims, including a 10-year-old little girl, was killed.
00:10:14.740 A fairly prominent social media person, Arsene Ostrovsky, was shot in the head.
00:10:19.680 Survived.
00:10:20.000 But, you know, I think the bullet grazed him.
00:10:23.220 And it's, you know, yet another example of, I think, kind of, I think fairly fair to say lone wolf Islamist terror that is all over the world.
00:10:32.780 It's in the United States.
00:10:33.740 It's in England.
00:10:34.620 I mean, just in October, we had, you know, a guy named Jihad decide to attack a synagogue in Manchester.
00:10:40.600 And, you know, we had the National Guardsmen shooting.
00:10:42.900 It feels like it, you know, it's forever ago.
00:10:44.480 It was like three weeks ago we had two National Guardsmen shot in D.C. by an Islamist.
00:10:51.040 This is just a problem around the world.
00:10:53.260 And it's really about time for the West to make a decision that we don't, we need, we want less of this.
00:10:58.600 We don't want any more lone wolf Islamist terror.
00:11:00.600 And we're going to structure our immigration policies to minimize it as much as possible.
00:11:03.620 As much as possible.
00:11:05.140 Yeah.
00:11:05.620 In fact, I remember seeing, just anecdotally, having you, you know, using Twitter way too much,
00:11:12.300 I definitely remember having seen Arsene Ostrovsky just on Twitter in the past.
00:11:18.340 Like, oh, yeah, that guy.
00:11:19.320 Like, what do you mean he was there?
00:11:20.740 I mean, I don't know if it was targeted towards him or something like that, but definitely a name that I recognized from social media.
00:11:27.580 And I was really shocked that someone who I, you know, have seen, I don't know that we've interacted or anything like that,
00:11:34.680 but definitely someone I've seen out there for sure.
00:11:37.620 And, Will, when we look at these cases, so you mentioned there are two Pakistanis, they were migrants to Australia.
00:11:45.880 We keep hearing as a response to this that the Australian government is going to enact tighter gun bans,
00:11:51.760 that it's guns that are causing the problem, just like they had the gun ban in 1996 after the Port Arthur massacre.
00:11:57.460 And they've turned over hundreds of thousands of guns and put over registrations on guns in Australia.
00:12:04.240 But unfortunately, it seems that and this is a strange, a very strange, I suppose, metric or a very strange thing for dynamic for liberals to understand.
00:12:16.080 But actually, guns don't cause murder.
00:12:20.340 People cause murder, as it turns out.
00:12:23.360 And in this case, we know that these migrants from specific parts of the world, from the Muslim world,
00:12:31.580 just going to say it in third world in general, are far more violent than the general population.
00:12:36.960 And, oh, by the way, we can actually stop 100 percent of this violence by not letting them in in the first place.
00:12:44.240 It's an incredible thing, isn't it?
00:12:45.940 Yeah, it would be remarkable.
00:12:47.340 I mean, and OK, you know, Australia has incredibly strict gun control.
00:12:51.280 What did that mean?
00:12:51.800 Well, it meant that a guy with a bolt-action rifle was able to just stand there and shoot people for, like, 20 minutes or something.
00:12:58.060 Some ridiculous amount of time.
00:12:59.720 Whereas in America, I mean, if there was anybody who was armed, that would have lasted seconds.
00:13:04.180 You know, somebody would have pulled out their gun and gone after him.
00:13:06.340 The odds that it would continue like that and just in public, almost trivial.
00:13:10.620 And so what do you expect?
00:13:11.560 Are you going to get rid of every hunting rifle?
00:13:13.620 Because that's what the guy was using.
00:13:14.560 He was using, like, a very, very slow hunting rifle.
00:13:17.420 But the fact that nobody else was there with a gun to stop him and he could just pick, you know, shoot away.
00:13:23.460 Guns are not the problem here.
00:13:25.280 The problem is having people who don't fit in a high-trust society, people who want to use violence against – I mean, violence against Jews.
00:13:32.640 Like, I remember there's some leftist accounts who were talking about this as, quote-unquote, imperial blowback.
00:13:37.520 I'm sorry, what?
00:13:38.380 Is, like, some 10-year-old Australian Jewish girl living in Sydney one of the pillars of empire?
00:13:43.620 No.
00:13:43.940 It's just there's, like – you admit third-world Muslims into your country.
00:13:48.760 You're going to get some amount of Islamic terrorism.
00:13:51.400 Most of it will be – a large chunk of it will target Jews.
00:13:54.500 So maybe we just don't need this.
00:13:56.920 You know, Christians and Jews have been partners in the project of Western civilization for hundreds of years.
00:14:01.340 We live together in peace.
00:14:04.220 We foster and live together in high-trust, high-human capital societies.
00:14:10.000 What do we need this for?
00:14:12.040 I'm sorry.
00:14:12.820 You know, I asked the question kind of cynically yesterday, and I think I thrilled Indian Twitter by saying it.
00:14:17.440 But I'm sorry.
00:14:18.200 You know, what import has Pakistan brought to the world other than terrorism?
00:14:21.600 Do you own anything that's made in Pakistan other than maybe, like, very cheap textiles?
00:14:26.380 And what's crazy is that if you actually – statistically speaking, if you look across the Western world, the United States, Canada, Europe, Australia, Australia actually has the highest rate of immigration in the entire West.
00:14:46.100 Their foreign-born population is now higher than 30 percent.
00:14:53.060 Oh, my goodness.
00:14:53.700 One in three.
00:14:54.780 One in three of their population – because Australia is a very small population to begin with.
00:15:00.240 Yeah, it's like 20, 25 million people, something like that.
00:15:02.860 Right, right, right.
00:15:03.340 You have those are Europeans.
00:15:04.020 That's like one city in China.
00:15:05.240 You have the amount of people who are, you know, obviously descendants of Europeans.
00:15:10.540 You have the Aborigines.
00:15:12.000 And now this massive influx of migrants to the – if you look just, you know, pound for pound, relatively speaking, the highest immigration rate in the entire West.
00:15:23.120 They are importing people hand over fist.
00:15:26.420 And there's no vetting.
00:15:27.620 There's no sense of trying to figure out who they're bringing in.
00:15:30.940 They're letting anyone in they want.
00:15:33.180 And it seems as though they're not actually letting the people of Australia have a say in this one way or the other.
00:15:40.220 Yeah, I can't imagine the people of Australia are thrilled about effectively being replaced.
00:15:44.680 I mean, what do you call that other than replacement if 30 percent of your population is foreign-born?
00:15:49.260 I mean, it doesn't take much – if you get up to 51 percent of the population being foreign-born, then it's a foreign-born majority that gets to dictate to the native minority how things work, if they so choose.
00:15:59.940 It's a remarkable set of circumstances.
00:16:03.280 And I just – you know, it really puts into question, like, what are our relationships going to be like with Australia going forward?
00:16:09.780 Well, and to that point, I was going to point this out because I – so I gave this speech in New York over the weekend, and pretty much all of it was directed at Zora Mandami, having no idea that this was going to happen the very next morning.
00:16:20.620 And while I was talking about this, one of the things that occurred to me is that with his election, it's not necessarily that the foreign-born population needs to encompass your population, which people are saying, oh, well, it's still under 50 percent.
00:16:33.400 But it doesn't matter because once you have a voting bloc that's 30 percent, this could become an extremely powerful voting bloc, and you can be the kingmaker.
00:16:42.100 You have to negotiate with them.
00:16:43.420 I mean, this is so sizable that it completely transforms your situation when it gets to probably, like, just 10 percent.
00:16:51.900 Yeah, it absolutely does.
00:16:53.840 I mean, I was actually just having a debate on Saudi television about this with some British leftists who was saying, oh, immigrants have no power.
00:17:01.100 They're a minority of your populations.
00:17:03.040 They can't dictate the way things work.
00:17:04.780 And it's like, actually, that's false.
00:17:07.100 What's that?
00:17:08.480 Oh, they keep inviting me on, too.
00:17:10.020 I haven't taken them up yet.
00:17:10.980 But it was kind of fun.
00:17:12.540 It took an hour or so.
00:17:13.440 Maybe they did it all.
00:17:13.800 It was a little time-consuming.
00:17:14.980 But it was a good debate.
00:17:16.320 And part of what this guy was trying to argue was just, oh, we don't have any power at all, so it's all your fault.
00:17:23.420 And it's all your fault if things are going badly.
00:17:25.540 And it's like these are parliamentary systems.
00:17:28.920 If you have a 10 percent bloc one way or the other, they're going to have real influence in any government in a society that's evenly divided among the native population.
00:17:36.820 They're going to be able to make really serious policy demands and get them satisfied.
00:17:41.340 And that doesn't have to be the case.
00:17:43.380 And the more people you admit, the more political sway and power that they'll have.
00:17:47.420 So, I mean, it's really just a—it's ridiculous to suggest that large immigrant populations don't have political power in democracies.
00:17:55.940 That's obviously false.
00:17:58.040 No, and we can see that that's exactly how Zora Mandami was able to win his position in New York City, where he's now going to be in two weeks' time, I guess you say, inaugurated as mayor of the city.
00:18:09.960 And, no, it wasn't 100 percent of, you know, the foreign-born populace that put him in.
00:18:15.120 Obviously, he worked with native-born New Yorkers, but it was enough.
00:18:19.240 And so in this sense that—if you look at the numbers, by the way, native New Yorkers, people born in New York, voted for Cuomo.
00:18:27.120 They didn't vote for Mandami, but it didn't matter because he won enough native-born New Yorkers and then almost all of the foreign-born New Yorkers and was able to win.
00:18:38.660 This is a huge upset, not for—I should say, not for if you understand the situation, but for anyone who understands the basic qualities of the immigration system into these areas.
00:18:51.300 And I said in the speech, if Zora Mandami gets his way, you will see terror attacks in Times Square on New Year's Eve in just four years' time.
00:19:02.000 What have we seen in Australia?
00:19:03.600 And then what was the news we got out of Los Angeles just today?
00:19:07.160 We'll have Andy Ngo on later.
00:19:08.360 Human Events Daily continues.
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00:19:31.560 They were on with Will Chamberlain, and we're talking about the issue with this mass migration of the third world into places like Europe, which we've covered for years, the United States, which we've been coming increasingly, and now for the second time is just as long as Australia.
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00:21:04.200 We're on with Will Chamberlain.
00:21:05.480 Will, you know, one of the things that I pointed out this week and as well is that,
00:21:11.900 and I said on stage in New York City, just blocks away from ground zero, that even the Twin Towers themselves were taken down by angry migrants who hated America.
00:21:24.020 And what do we do in the wake of 9-11?
00:21:25.700 We increase the power of the national security state.
00:21:28.140 We pass the Patriot Act.
00:21:29.480 We invaded the Middle East.
00:21:30.700 But maybe, just maybe, all we really needed to do was lock down our borders, focus on who we are, and keep each other safe.
00:21:39.400 Why didn't we do that, Will?
00:21:40.320 That's a really good question.
00:21:43.140 And it's hard to understand what the Bush administration was doing on that front to not be more selective.
00:21:48.840 It's hard to understand what's been going on for the last 25 years.
00:21:51.640 I think the lesson should have been learned on 9-11, and it hasn't been.
00:21:55.440 And hopefully, I think we're starting to see some movement in the direction of learning it now.
00:21:58.880 We're really having very good talk about limiting Muslim migration, which I don't even know if was in the Overton window back then.
00:22:06.760 I mean, I remember one of the things the Bush administration did in the aftermath of 9-11 was be extremely aggressive in his outreach to the Muslim community in the United States.
00:22:15.320 I mean, he made clear that, you know, they went after al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, they went after Iraq, but it's not clear they did anything meaningful in terms of changing immigration policy domestically.
00:22:24.920 And that's absurd.
00:22:26.500 And I think it fit into a broader theme that, you know, the Republicans are still not totally shaken, which is this idea that immigration is an unalloyed good.
00:22:34.080 It's not.
00:22:35.080 It's absolutely not.
00:22:36.760 And, I mean, you know, in the best case, it seems like you get stuff like when it comes to Muslim immigration, you get massive fraud like you do in Somalia.
00:22:44.760 And in the worst case, you get terrorist attacks.
00:22:46.520 We just don't need it.
00:22:47.680 We do not need it anymore.
00:22:50.760 Islam is not compatible with Western civilization, and mass Muslim migration is not compatible with Western societies.
00:22:56.840 And it's time to say this experiment has run its course, and it needs to stop.
00:23:00.940 You know, the people who don't have citizenship and don't have a right to stay in the United States need to be sent home.
00:23:07.940 And the people who have citizenship, I mean, essentially, you want to encourage people to leave and return back to their home countries.
00:23:14.000 I mean, we're not going to, you know, denaturalize unless we have legal reason to do so.
00:23:17.720 But we basically want to say that we've had quite enough Muslim immigration in this country.
00:23:22.540 We want it to stop, and we want there to be net negative Muslim migration to the United States.
00:23:26.940 Well, and what's really strange here, and I see people keep saying it over and over, what's the benefit been?
00:23:35.880 What's the benefit to us?
00:23:36.840 I can't seem to find any.
00:23:38.680 Is the benefit to our economy?
00:23:42.420 Is there a benefit to having an Uber driver that, by the way, I'm just going to say it.
00:23:47.060 I'm going to say it straight up.
00:23:48.040 Uber sucks now.
00:23:49.020 Uber is awful.
00:23:50.740 You can't find a good Uber driver anymore.
00:23:52.760 You just, you can't do it.
00:23:53.780 It's like not possible.
00:23:55.760 They don't exist.
00:23:57.960 It's really bad in pretty much every city that I've been in lately.
00:24:02.560 The drivers are slow.
00:24:04.060 They don't know where they're going.
00:24:05.280 The app doesn't work.
00:24:06.740 It's, I'm going to say, like, full disclosure, I had a really bad weekend with Uber drivers, and it's just been awful.
00:24:14.420 And it's been awful because I know for a fact that I'm, you know it.
00:24:19.160 These are not Americans when you get in the back of that car.
00:24:21.580 They're just not.
00:24:22.340 And it's becoming this new, like, import class of people that you could be, like, in the middle of nowhere.
00:24:29.300 And suddenly you're finding, like, some third-world migrant is pulling up in an Uber.
00:24:32.480 And you're like, what's going on?
00:24:33.780 And you ask them basic stuff like, hey, I think you should go this way instead of that way.
00:24:38.140 And they can't even, they can't even follow what you're saying.
00:24:40.400 It's horrific.
00:24:41.320 Sorry.
00:24:41.940 Rant.
00:24:42.240 Had to do it.
00:24:42.760 No, but that's real.
00:24:44.780 And, I mean, that's true all over the Western world.
00:24:47.060 You have this sort of newly imported class of Uber drivers, Uber Eats, DoorDash drivers, kind of working as effectively a kind of servant class, but not a very effective servant class.
00:25:00.320 And they're, you know, they're not actually adding meaningful value to the United States economy because they're not earning enough to cover the, you know, to cover their way of life.
00:25:10.560 And so they were, and they're not, certainly not paying any taxes, so they're extracting more benefits from the state than they're generating in terms of their economic value.
00:25:16.800 And we just don't need this stuff.
00:25:19.120 Like, you know, I think it would be fine if things like DoorDash and Uber were more expensive because of the delivery costs were higher, but the net of, but the FISC wasn't being drained by the social services needed to provide for all these Uber drivers and, you know, deliverers.
00:25:36.140 It's just, it's not a good trade for the United States broadly.
00:25:38.780 And our economy would be better off if, you know, the government were spending a lot less money on benefits and Uber and DoorDash were a little more expensive.
00:25:46.800 Yeah, and what they'll do, right, what they'll, you'll see them do this is that they will share, they will share account information.
00:25:54.480 So even then, you know, again, these are just all qualities of a high trust society that importing a low trust society completely flips around.
00:26:04.460 So they will share accounts.
00:26:05.780 So the guy that you think is coming in the Uber might not actually match.
00:26:10.160 You check the car, but are you checking the driver?
00:26:12.040 Are you sure that's the driver that's on your Uber?
00:26:14.400 Because just because he's using that account, it doesn't necessarily mean that that's the driver who signed up with the Uber.
00:26:21.680 And I've seen people do this a number of times.
00:26:23.700 Make sure that you check.
00:26:24.800 This is like word to the wise this Christmas.
00:26:26.720 Make sure you don't just check the car.
00:26:28.160 Check the driver of your Uber.
00:26:31.080 And look, you know, I'm saying in terms of poor service, but also potentially in terms of safety.
00:26:36.640 Will Chamberlain, where can people go to find you?
00:26:38.380 You can find me personally at Will Chamberlain on X, and you can follow what the Article 3 project is doing in terms of being able to get involved and tell senators what you think at a3paction.com.
00:26:49.420 Thanks so much, Will Chamberlain.
00:26:51.100 Go give him a follow, folks.
00:26:52.240 Andy Ngo of No Comment Substack and The Post Millennial joins us next.
00:26:55.720 Where is Jack?
00:27:04.440 Where is Jack?
00:27:06.780 Where is he?
00:27:08.060 Jack, I want to see you.
00:27:11.720 Great job, Jack.
00:27:13.160 Thank you.
00:27:13.920 What a job you do.
00:27:15.340 You know, we have an incredible thing.
00:27:16.720 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who'll be getting Pulisic.
00:27:22.500 All right, Jack Posobiec, we are back live here.
00:27:28.160 Human Events Daily on Real America's Voice.
00:27:32.180 I want to bring on now my colleague, Andy Ngo.
00:27:35.180 And it's been far too long since I've had Andy Ngo on air, senior editor over at The Post Millennial.
00:27:40.560 He also writes No Comment, The Substack.
00:27:43.440 Andy, how are you, my friend?
00:27:45.220 I'm all right.
00:27:45.760 Thanks for having me on, Jack.
00:27:46.880 So, Andy, talk to us about, and you've done so much work here, talk to us about this Turtle Island Liberation Front, far leftist group.
00:27:59.420 They were planning attacks on Los Angeles.
00:28:02.500 This is a known group.
00:28:04.340 Walk us through what your investigation has revealed thus far.
00:28:08.460 So, all their social media, as of right now, is still currently online.
00:28:14.140 They were very active in putting out their propaganda, and I would call them an Antifa-style group.
00:28:20.040 Their ideology appears to be more in the vein of communist revolutionaries, anti-Americanism, nothing particularly new that we've seen.
00:28:28.820 I guess what is particularly new is the brazenness of allegedly planning multiple bombings across Southern California.
00:28:39.560 But looking on their propaganda, you can see what the ideology is, which is calling for violence against the U.S. government, violent revolution, in the name of a number of causes, for Palestine, for so-called decolonization.
00:28:55.380 So, they're, in their own words, as of right now, you can go on Instagram and see what they say.
00:29:01.660 They urge violence.
00:29:02.880 They call for the death of ICE agents.
00:29:06.520 And I'm still reading through the federal criminal complaint.
00:29:10.800 There's been four individuals who have been arrested so far.
00:29:15.840 I believe the fifth person was also arrested, and at least one of them is transgender.
00:29:21.540 So, that's also not particularly surprising.
00:29:23.620 We've seen now, basically, whenever there is an incident or allegation of far-left political violence or domestic terrorism, there is now always a nexus of transgenderism.
00:29:38.520 Well, and we see this again and again where there are these far-left groups, these Marxist groups.
00:29:49.320 They're using the Turtle Island.
00:29:51.320 Their flag is very interesting because it reminds me of one of these, at least one of the flags I've seen associated with them, the red and black.
00:29:58.960 So, the black color of anarchism, the red flag of communism, the mixing of red and black, as almost always seen in Antifa organizations.
00:30:10.760 And, of course, they use the Turtle.
00:30:12.940 So, Andy, what does Turtle Island refer to?
00:30:15.780 So, I don't know the significance of this yet.
00:30:19.560 I had not had a chance to look into this particular group.
00:30:22.500 They're really, from what I can get, a sense of regional to California, although at least one of their alleged members is also in Louisiana.
00:30:31.960 So, I'll have to keep investigating, but I think a lot of times the names of these domestic terror left-wing groups, they serve sort of an ad-hoc function.
00:30:44.140 I described this group earlier as, like, Antifa in style because, as you can mention, their color palettes or symbols, their language, but the name itself doesn't have Antifa in it.
00:30:55.780 And that's usually how we see a lot of these Antifa groups organized.
00:31:01.260 They take on names that sound very innocuous or as a dog whistle for something else.
00:31:07.040 Usually, whenever we see anything that includes Liberation Front in it, there's been a number of Antifa groups that have adopted that into part of their name, like the Youth Liberation Front.
00:31:17.800 They were involved in organizing the violence and riots during the 2020 after George Floyd died.
00:31:25.780 Well, the one—yeah, the one that I was—and I haven't seen this direct connection yet, but the one suspicion that I had was that—so, Turtle Island is a reference that I've seen a lot by some Native American groups, American Indians, to sort of the landmass of North America itself.
00:31:46.400 So, they view—they say that, oh, this land that we live on is—they believe we live on the back of a turtle, and there's a lot of American Indian mythology regarding this.
00:31:56.300 So, that phrase, Turtle Island, I have seen used in a reference to what they would call, you know, in First Nations, they would call it in Canada and American Indians in America.
00:32:07.300 And so, I don't know if that's exactly what they're referencing, but to me, it seemed like that was probably an indication of what they believed they were, that American society, that Western society is an imposition on top of these indigenous groups and therefore must be destroyed in order to liberate it.
00:32:25.740 This is also the plot of the famous TV show Yellowstone, by the way.
00:32:29.040 Yeah, so, if you look on the propaganda online, it has a coalition of left-wing grievances, and it includes, obviously, Palestinian nationalists, but also those who are Mexican nationalists and those who are Native American nationalists.
00:32:48.140 And what they have in common is none of them recognize the legitimacy of the United States as a nation state, and beyond that, call for its destruction explicitly through violence.
00:32:59.620 They actually say, through one of their rather recent posts, is that stop marching, fight now, and they make another number of references to violence.
00:33:09.780 They say, we cannot vote our way out of this.
00:33:11.860 So, I'm not particularly surprised of the allegations from the federal government against this particular group.
00:33:19.940 We've seen over and over, there's so many.
00:33:22.860 This is just, unfortunately, a drop in the bucket of, within this type of radical left space, of groups that operate openly online on these mainstream social media platforms calling for violence against individuals or anti-government violence.
00:33:37.520 And, in fact, the government has released footage, I'm not sure if we have it up, but they've got, it seems to be drone footage or some kind of aerial footage of extensive planning of explosives that they were working on in, I guess, in the desert outside of Los Angeles there in California.
00:33:58.460 I mean, I'm looking at it now, where this would seem to be an extensive terror plot that A.G. Bondi has tweeted out about, and they are facing charges, conspiracy possession of unregistered destructive devices.
00:34:12.340 The belief that I've seen here is that these were intended to be pipe bombs.
00:34:16.200 They traveled to the desert with precursor chemicals just a couple of days ago, and were allegedly going to create bombs with their wares and explosive devices, and they wanted to plant them at multiple companies around the Los Angeles area.
00:34:31.240 We don't have, and Andy, have you seen any indication what those companies may have been that they were targeting?
00:34:37.180 I haven't seen the details of that yet.
00:34:40.780 So, they haven't released that yet.
00:34:42.100 But, okay, so it would be interesting to see if there's a specific, well, whatever they specifically were tying to.
00:34:49.500 But that being said, this is another example, Andy, I think, that in this country, and you and I, of course, both participated in President Trump's roundtable on far-left violence.
00:35:01.860 The left is getting more violent, aren't they?
00:35:03.700 Yes, this allegation from the federal government comes on the heels of at least seven people in Texas being federally convicted for providing material support for terrorists in a Antifa shooting ambush attack that happened on an ICE facility early this year.
00:35:23.860 Also in California, in the Bay Area, there was another Antifa associate in the Berkeley area who was convicted and sentenced to 19 years for a number of bombings that he carried out on the Cal campus and around it.
00:35:37.920 And if you talk to the average liberal, they will have never heard of these convictions, and they'll call you a liar if you bring attention to it.
00:35:46.520 But I hope these latest criminal charges are eye-opening for liberals because they have to recognize the problem that exists on their side, which they have refused as the bodies continue to pile up.
00:36:03.040 Well, and it's very unfortunate because, once again, we see these leftist groups organizing, we see their willingness to use violence.
00:36:13.200 And this is something that I think a lot of the former statistics that were coming out of mainstream press or mainstream academia were saying that, oh, the right is far more violent.
00:36:25.160 But it's not true. It's just not true.
00:36:26.800 When you look into the statistics, it is the left that is far more willing to use violence.
00:36:31.220 And certainly we can see that publicly.
00:36:33.160 We can see leftist groups participating in the protests that turn violent, this agitation against ICE agents, running in front of ICE cars, attacks on ICE facilities, not to mention, of course, the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
00:36:46.320 It is the left that is far more willing to use this violence.
00:36:50.500 Yes, and bombings and shootings are part of their MO.
00:36:54.520 So I was on the ground in 2020 during the riots in Portland and Seattle, and the explosive devices that I saw the black bloc militants use were IEDs.
00:37:07.880 They weren't particularly that sophisticated looking, but these bombs could have killed people.
00:37:13.400 So what they would do is they would take together multiple commercial fireworks and light them and throw them at the feet of a group of law enforcement, for example, or at the front door of the building and cause an explosion.
00:37:27.540 And so they make it very clear in their ideology, they don't hide it at all, that their goal is to kill people that they label fascists and Nazis, and they label all of their opposition that they call for the overthrow of the United States government.
00:37:45.760 We certainly do, and the liberation of Turtle Island.
00:37:48.920 And, you know, hold it right there one second.
00:37:50.820 We'll be right back.
00:37:51.460 Human Events Daily.
00:37:52.300 Quick break.
00:37:52.780 Jack is a great guy.
00:37:59.620 He's written a fantastic book.
00:38:01.320 Everybody's talking about it.
00:38:02.560 Go get it.
00:38:03.660 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
00:38:07.640 And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.
00:38:10.840 Amen.
00:38:15.180 All right, Jack Posobiec, we are back with Andy Ngo.
00:38:18.460 He's a senior editor at the Post Millennial.
00:38:20.680 He also writes No Comment.
00:38:22.360 That's N-G-O Comment on Substack.
00:38:25.220 You can find his extensive work there.
00:38:28.580 Andy, you've got some new information that's been released by the government regarding the targets, in this case, the far-left communist Marxist group Turtle Island Liberation Front.
00:38:41.380 What are some of the targets that we're now hearing about?
00:38:43.480 So this far-left domestic terror group allegedly were plotting to use pipe bombs to kill ICE agents and that they had meetings.
00:38:55.320 I'm reading through the criminal complaint right now.
00:38:58.060 One of the alleged members is former military.
00:39:00.920 We've seen this pattern a lot in terms of radical far-left terror groups recruiting disaffected people who are veterans or have a U.S. military background.
00:39:13.660 They like them in particular because of the weapons training that they've had.
00:39:18.400 There's also allegations from the government that the members of this group were inquiring among its members that people could get a hold of unregistered ARs to use in attacks.
00:39:34.080 So the allegations are extremely serious, and it's terrorism, according to the government.
00:39:43.720 Well, it's clearly far-terrorism.
00:39:45.820 And by the way, direct attacks on ICE agents is something that we've seen increasingly since, as you just mentioned, in Texas, when we knew it was anti-ICE.
00:39:54.300 We had some of the stories that broke right here on Human Events Daily about the writing on the bullets right there in Dallas, exactly, where they had written anti-ICE on the bullet casing.
00:40:05.900 So, Andy, let's pull back a little bit here.
00:40:08.540 We've seen this.
00:40:09.060 Luigi Maggioni.
00:40:11.320 We've seen Tyler Robinson.
00:40:13.740 Thomas Matthew Crooks.
00:40:15.220 The anti-ICE attacks in Dallas.
00:40:17.480 Now the Turtle Island Liberation Front.
00:40:20.060 It's incredible that the DOJ is doing what they're doing and actually is able to stop these plots when they first come.
00:40:27.320 What other steps do you believe that the federal government could be taking now?
00:40:31.080 And, of course, we saw that the JTTFs have been activated by the attorney general and the president of the United States using this national security memo to go after far-left groups.
00:40:41.840 But what are some of the steps that you'd like to see going on?
00:40:45.040 Well, I would like to see additional resources surged into investigating far-left domestic terrorists.
00:40:53.640 A lot of it is clandestine, but a lot of it, as this Liberation Front group, is out in the open.
00:41:00.260 And even though they may not necessarily plan attacks on Instagram posts, they can say a number of things that suggest that this is part of their ideology and that this is part of their agenda and goal.
00:41:13.740 And there are so many of these groups, and for until now, all these years, a decade and longer, operated out in the open with impunity because nothing would happen to them.
00:41:27.360 Or in the few cases where if they did engage in criminal violence and were charged federally, as we saw during the first Trump administration, the federal prosecutors would agree to these sweetheart plea deals where they just do community service and get the conviction expunged from the record after a short amount of time.
00:41:47.220 I have not seen these type of sweetheart deals proposed by U.S. attorneys at the federal level in the current administration, so that's encouraging.
00:41:55.320 And another thing that can be done is for whatever cases that can be taken under the umbrella of the federal prosecutors to do that, because unfortunately, we cannot rely on local state prosecutors in places like Oregon, Washington State, and California to meaningfully prosecute those who are accused of left-wing domestic terrorism.
00:42:25.320 Well, that's exactly right, because in many of these cases we've seen, for example, even—and I just keep coming back to it—where Luigi Maggioni had a judge in New York City take the terrorism charge off of the docket because he claimed that the terrorism statute in New York State was written for civilians and that health care workers didn't count as civilians.
00:42:49.980 This was a judge who was in New York.
00:42:50.980 This was a judge who's on the bench in New York who actually viewed Luigi's case as being a simple murder and didn't have political overtones.
00:42:59.980 Andy, is that true? Did Luigi Maggioni's case not have this political threat attached to it?
00:43:06.980 You know, quite often, the barrier to justice that I've seen in my many years of reporting on the violent far left are judges themselves and prosecutors working hand-in-hand, allowing sweetheart plea deals, or getting cases dismissed and dropped even in the face of overwhelming evidence.
00:43:28.980 And unfortunately, we see in many jurisdictions where, in my opinion, in the judiciary, it's compromised.
00:43:37.980 And it's really heartbreaking because we want to have faith in our criminal justice system.
00:43:42.980 And too often, we see what appears to be activist judges making decisions that appear potentially politically motivated.
00:43:51.980 And this seems to be the issue, of course, is that there is this mentality—and I've heard it over and over again, whether it be in the FBI or the National Security Administration or even judges themselves—where they seem to believe that the right, if anything the right does, if they show up, if they protest, anything they say or do is violence.
00:44:16.980 However, anything the left does, to include threats, to include agitation, to include doxing, to include harassment—in your case, Andy, actual violence that's visited upon you—that anything the left does, or even Chaz itself, when you and I were both there, is protected by the First Amendment.
00:44:35.980 And it's this pervasive mentality, which is itself a form of anti-fascism, Antifa mentality, that has somehow seeped its way into our very institutions of justice in this country.
00:44:46.980 Yeah, I think people need to be reminded how much the violent far left has been able to get away in the United States.
00:44:53.980 Right now, there's an ongoing civil trial in Seattle of the family of a black boy who was killed by the Chaz border guard securities—is suing the city.
00:45:05.980 Nobody was ever arrested over that.
00:45:07.980 The city allowed, sanctioned, for over three weeks, violent far left terrorists to take over a part of the city to establish a hard border, to bring in their armed border guards to do ID checks on people, and to carry out shootings and killings.
00:45:22.980 Video evidence that has come to light again from five years ago show that the security were celebrating and cheering as they looked at the blood that was soaked in the vehicle they shot up.
00:45:36.980 They thought that the black teens were white supremacists, and they just killed them, and they got away with it.
00:45:42.980 So, and this was allowed to happen by the city, and people seem to forget that—and it wasn't just Chaz that had a so-called autonomous zone.
00:45:54.980 There was also one set up in Portland at that time for a number of days, and they've been able to kill and assassinate people with impunity.
00:46:02.980 I mean, there was a Trump supporter in Portland in 2020 who was murdered by a so-called Antifa security person.
00:46:10.980 And then he fled out of state and was given a glowing profile by Vice while he was a fugitive.
00:46:17.980 So, the left-wing terrorists quite often get away in the criminal justice system and are praised by mainstream media institutions as well for the violence.
00:46:30.980 Well, yes, and in fact, one of those border guards in Chaz, Daniel Alan Baker, who—I don't know if he's still in prison in Florida.
00:46:42.980 He was someone who had traveled to Syria, received training on the battlefield by organizations like YPG, and that had come back to America, traveled to Chaz, and used this training that he received from leftist groups and terrorist groups on the ground in Syria to enact violence in the Chaz.
00:47:01.980 And perhaps knows quite a bit about that shooting. Has he ever been questioned by Seattle PD? I don't know.
00:47:07.980 And, you know, that is enough—that is all the time we have in the show today. Where can people go to follow you to get your work and access your Substack?
00:47:13.980 I'm on Substack at ngocomment.com.
00:47:16.980 He's on Substack, ngocomment, and, you know, the senior editor over at the Post Millennial. He's also the author of Unmasked.
00:47:24.980 Makes a great Christmas gift for those out there. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.
00:47:43.980 Thank you.