Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - Conservatives Must Take Action NOW Against Illegals Voting

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00:00:49.460 Christ is king.

00:00:50.780 Where's Hunter? Remember the sign? Where's Hunter?

00:00:53.900 Where's Hunter? He's in the White House.

00:00:56.920 Hunter is in the White House running government right now.

00:00:59.860 They say he picked Kamala Harris as his vice president.

00:01:04.860 If Joe had picked someone even halfway competent, they would have bounced him from office years ago.

00:01:10.420 Does he have your support to be the head of the Democrats again?

00:01:13.020 As long as the president had the president, it's up to the president.

00:01:16.360 I want him to do whatever he decides to do.

00:01:18.800 So tonight, I'm officially offering Joe the chance to redeem himself in front of the entire world.

00:01:26.040 Let's do another debate this week so that sleepy Joe Biden can prove to everyone all over the world that he has what it takes to be president.

00:01:35.940 But this time, it will be man-to-man, no moderators, no holds barred.

00:01:41.640 Just name the place, anytime, anywhere.

00:01:45.000 Facing intense scrutiny with no room for error, President Biden is both candidate and commander-in-chief welcoming world leaders to Washington.

00:01:52.820 With a clear and forceful address Tuesday touting the NATO alliance as more powerful than ever.

00:01:59.100 Biden and Trump are very different.

00:02:03.220 But they are supportive democracy.

00:02:07.660 And that's why I think Putin will hate both of them.

00:02:11.780 I think so.

00:02:13.100 As we speak, the transfer of F-16 jets is underway, coming from Denmark, coming from the Netherlands.

00:02:21.280 He's sharpest before 8 p.m.

00:02:22.940 So say that the Pentagon at some point picks up an incoming nuke.

00:02:27.160 It's 11 p.m.

00:02:28.260 Who do you call?

00:02:29.020 The first lady? 1.00

00:02:30.080 He has a team that lets him know of any news that is pertinent and important to the American people.

00:02:36.660 Even before Russia bombs were falling in Ukraine, the alliance acted.

00:02:40.520 Or I ordered the U.S. reinforcements at NATO's eastern flank.

00:03:06.360 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition here.

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00:03:11.900 So we just saw that completely wild NATO opening, this conference, ritualistic, globalist summit. 0.95

00:03:20.660 It's ridiculous. 0.94

00:03:21.400 And I will say this. 0.97

00:03:22.400 It is a summit because this is the zenith of their power.

00:03:25.800 And they will never, ever become higher than this because Donald J. Trump is on his way back.

00:03:31.240 But we need to get conservatives who understand action.

00:03:35.360 And so, as such, the Article III Project Action official is here with us today.

00:03:43.800 Will Chamberlain is in studio.

00:03:44.820 Will, how are you?

00:03:45.440 Doing great, Jack.

00:03:46.240 Good to be with you.

00:03:46.860 So walk me through.

00:03:48.580 Why is it so important that we must pass the SAVE Act now?

00:03:52.500 Well, it's really straightforward.

00:03:54.320 It's about making sure that only American citizens vote in federal elections.

00:03:59.260 You know, it's very, right now, I mean, election integrity laws are just not quite good enough.

00:04:03.480 Obviously, there should be a federal law.

00:04:04.820 A little bit of an understatement.

00:04:05.680 Right, yeah.

00:04:06.820 We'll keep it simple.

00:04:07.740 But it's just quite obvious that federal law should obviously mandate proof of citizenship.

00:04:11.980 You have to provide proof of citizenship to get a job in this country. 0.76

00:04:14.560 Every time you start a new job, you fill out an I-9, give them your passport or some other proof of your citizenship.

00:04:20.180 So you should have to do that to vote, too.

00:04:21.600 So we can make sure that you're a citizen if you're actually voting in our federal elections.

00:04:25.500 And so we had Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene on yesterday, and she was talking about this.

00:04:31.060 And I mentioned this as well in my NACON speech earlier this morning, that this is something that we'd love to see House Republicans actually dig their heels in on.

00:04:41.980 This is something where you've got the power of the purse.

00:04:45.020 Use your leverage.

00:04:46.580 Do you think that's something that House Republicans can do on their own?

00:04:50.400 I mean, I think they can do that on their own.

00:04:52.280 Will they?

00:04:52.560 Yeah, I don't know, but they can.

00:04:53.960 Yes, they can.

00:04:54.720 Right?

00:04:55.020 Like, they obviously have the ability to shut down the government over this.

00:04:57.920 I think it's a pretty persuasive case that if there's anything you're going to shut down the government over, it's ensuring that only American citizens vote in our elections.

00:05:05.080 I mean, and I'm sure that American people would agree it's probably an 80-20 issue at least.

00:05:09.100 I mean, I'm sure there's some hardcore Democrats that really hope that non-citizens vote in this election. 0.99

00:05:13.140 But most Americans, I think, have the right view.

00:05:15.020 And so this is something that you and Mike Davis over at the Article 3 Project are actually putting a program forward to help people get this across the finish line.

00:05:25.540 And so we've got just a couple of seconds here until the break, but I want people to understand this.

00:05:30.000 I mean, we won't have an election if we, you know, or, you know, all of the stuff about, is Biden going to be in the ballot?

00:05:37.060 Who's going to be Trump's running mate?

00:05:38.620 He's collapsing, et cetera, et cetera.

00:05:39.940 It doesn't matter. 0.99

00:05:40.920 It doesn't matter if you have these ridiculous, fake, phony, false ballots in the system. 0.90

00:05:47.460 That's what the SAVE Act is going to fix. 0.90

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00:08:22.520 Will Chamberlain from the Article III project is here.

00:08:25.240 It's actually A3P Action that's running this site.

00:08:28.800 Walk me through some of the ideas.

00:08:31.000 So we see the SAVE Act, and it seems like something, as you say, it should be an 80-20 issue that we don't want.

00:08:37.700 And I love when they, you know, illegal immigrants, as we should call them, but do you remember when they were saying undocumented and they were saying undocumented, you know, immigrants, et cetera?

00:08:47.400 Well, that's actually not a misnomer because they are documented, or it is a misnomer because they are documented.

00:08:54.180 They're documented citizens of their countries.

00:08:56.800 So if I were to just take up, you know, take up residence in China or Russia or Iran or India or anywhere in the world, you can't just, well, not China doesn't have elections,

00:09:07.080 but you know what I mean?

00:09:08.040 You can't just start effecting, you know, elections.

00:09:11.280 You can't start voting.

00:09:12.480 You actually need to have, you know, applying for the party or something like this in China, for example.

00:09:17.460 You can't have this.

00:09:18.580 And so we are the only country, majorly, that puts this forward.

00:09:22.660 But at the same time, you have a, I just don't know if I see the level of fight within the House GOP to get this over the finish line.

00:09:33.160 And so why was it that A3P Action decided to specifically focus on this act?

00:09:38.360 Well, I mean, it's obviously extraordinarily important.

00:09:40.820 Who can vote in elections is a meta-political issue.

00:09:43.460 It controls how everything else gets resolved.

00:09:45.800 So you want elections to have integrity.

00:09:48.160 And so I think it's really important.

00:09:50.140 People get out there, contact their congresspeople.

00:09:52.800 You should take a look at the A3P Action website.

00:09:55.820 We make it extremely easy with a few clicks just to email your congresspeople and tell them what you think and what you think they should do.

00:10:01.620 And so when I look at these committees out there and I see, you know, Jim Jordan's got the Weaponization Committee.

00:10:09.060 And it's just something where I'm like, shouldn't we be investigating how it is that illegal aliens are voting? 0.75

00:10:14.880 Wouldn't that be something perfectly reasonable to use the Weaponization Committee for?

00:10:20.040 And I understand that they're holding some hearings today and they're, you know, getting some traction.

00:10:24.440 They're having a little bit of fun on certain things, but also looking at advertisers and different.

00:10:28.140 And that's fine.

00:10:29.060 That's fine.

00:10:29.540 But, guys, we are, what, 117 days away from an election.

00:10:35.120 And as conservative Treehouse and others have pointed out, that once these guys get into the country and they start getting driver's licenses,

00:10:41.120 then you go up to, like, my home state of Pennsylvania where Josh Shapiro has enacted universal motor voter,

00:10:47.040 which means when you sign up for a driver's license, you're automatically registered to vote.

00:10:51.940 And there's, and, Will, is there a verification check to make sure someone's a citizen other than, oh, I don't know, the honor system?

00:10:58.520 I don't know.

00:10:59.080 That's a good question, actually.

00:11:00.200 Probably not.

00:11:00.940 That would be my guess.

00:11:01.900 Like, generally not.

00:11:03.220 Generally not.

00:11:03.860 And, you know, one of the things Democrats like to make this argument about how it's just too hard to get, provide proof of citizenship to be able to vote.

00:11:11.580 The same way they said it's, oh, it's too hard to have a driver's license even to be able to vote.

00:11:15.260 But, well, you know, maybe you should take all that money that you're drown all your nonprofits in, all this advocacy money,

00:11:21.460 and put some of it towards helping people who don't currently have identification get that identification if they are indeed American citizens.

00:11:27.480 That would be a very virtuous use of all your, you know, your political dollars.

00:11:31.560 I mean, think about how hard, I mean, if you can't get on a plane to that NID, that seems like a problem that you should have fixed if you can't. 0.95

00:11:37.940 I mean, so people should really, I think Democrats are just absolutely ridiculous on this issue.

00:11:42.360 Why is it then, I mean, it's tempting to say that they're just saying that because they want illegals to vote. 0.86

00:11:48.600 Do you really think this is something that's become a third rail for them?

00:11:51.780 Yeah, I think so.

00:11:52.680 I think that, I think there is a deep fear of them losing power to the right and that they don't actually hold the influence over most American citizens.

00:12:01.120 And so I think this is part of their long-term plan.

00:12:03.000 You saw that article in Axios about Democrats mobilizing full force against the possibility of passing a law that says only American citizens can vote.

00:12:10.920 Why?

00:12:11.040 Why is that?

00:12:12.180 Full force.

00:12:12.760 You know, just why are you so motivated about this particular issue?

00:12:16.080 What is it about your political strategy that means that this is a deal breaker?

00:12:20.960 Yeah, you know, it's not like, and I saw someone, I forgot who was tweeting, but they said, you know, you don't see them mobilizing full force to, oh, I don't know, protect the southern border.

00:12:29.600 Or even, even just one of their own topics, like provide health care or get education out there for people.

00:12:36.460 No, no, no.

00:12:36.820 It's full force when it comes to making sure that illegal aliens. 0.97

00:12:41.200 And then Joe Biden, who is sitting up there and he's now, I always have to kind of couch this when I say it because, so the White House has said that the White House will be vetoing the legislation if it passes.

00:12:53.760 And this is another issue, and this is something where I would love to see the weaponization committee get involved because we need the actual investigation to figure out who is in charge of our government right now.

00:13:05.580 Yeah, that's a very good question.

00:13:07.240 Is it Joe Biden?

00:13:07.840 Is it Jill Biden?

00:13:08.980 Is it Hunter Biden?

00:13:10.060 Like, who actually is running things?

00:13:12.060 I mean, we saw just today there was an op-ed from George Clooney saying that the Joe Biden we saw at the debate is the Joe Biden that he saw at the fundraiser that he started.

00:13:21.420 This is a big New York Times piece.

00:13:23.960 What was it?

00:13:24.400 Yeah, it was like, I love Joe, but it's time, or good night and good luck.

00:13:27.480 I love Joe, but we need to do that money.

00:13:29.140 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:29.560 Yeah, I mean, the idea is that it's time for Joe to go.

00:13:33.140 They're scared.

00:13:34.280 And the Democrats are running scared.

00:13:36.640 And so I think it would be a great opportunity for the House to be increasing the pressure in between the factions of the Democratic Party trying to figure out whether or not this guy's going to stay or go.

00:13:46.080 So this is something, and we were getting into a little bit in the cold open, and so Pelosi comes out today with, you know, no makeup on MSNBC.

00:13:53.020 So she's out there.

00:13:54.360 She's kind of got a new look.

00:13:55.600 She doesn't have that sort of classic Nancy Pelosi look. 0.69

00:13:57.940 She goes out there, and she says, well, it's Joe's decision.

00:14:03.540 It's up to – I'll read it because I've got it here.

00:14:06.540 It's up to the president to decide if he's going to run.

00:14:09.540 The time is running short.

00:14:11.920 He is beloved.

00:14:12.840 He is respected.

00:14:13.700 And people want him to make that decision.

00:14:15.680 And so Pelosi, it's kind of interesting because she – you know, Speaker Emeritus, this, like, weird thing they made up for her.

00:14:21.680 She's got a lot of power within the party. 1.00

00:14:23.660 She's got some influence over Joe Biden.

00:14:26.620 And so for her to say something like – I mean, obviously he said again and again that he's going to be running.

00:14:30.740 So when she says it's up to him to make the decision, I think we can all read between the lines there.

00:14:34.580 Right.

00:14:34.820 They're trying to insist that the decision has yet to be made, even though Joe has in fact made it.

00:14:39.080 Like, you can imagine just the Democrats themselves being like, it's time to make a decision, Joe.

00:14:42.620 And he says, yes, I'm running.

00:14:44.400 And they're like, Joe, it's time to make a decision.

00:14:47.140 Right.

00:14:47.640 I'm running.

00:14:48.220 I'm running.

00:14:48.940 Joe, it's time to make your decision.

00:14:51.380 Well, and this is how the Democrats act on anything, by the way.

00:14:53.660 And on one hand, I kind of wish Republicans were like this a little bit more because the Democrats – you know, like, Joe, it's time to pass the SAVE Act.

00:15:02.280 Joe, it's time to pass the SAVE Act.

00:15:04.080 Joe, the SAVE Act will be passed now.

00:15:05.920 What?

00:15:06.200 What?

00:15:06.540 Wait.

00:15:06.960 No, no.

00:15:07.380 No, and it's – you're going to keep going until they get their way, and that's what it comes down to.

00:15:13.320 But Nancy Pelosi – you see, this is the issue that all the Democrat leadership has, and I think it's why you're seeing such a tepid response from them, is because he's dug in like a deer tick.

00:15:22.080 They don't actually have any legal mechanism to get rid of him.

00:15:25.280 And, oh, by the way, as George Clooney even points out, we already gave him $300 million or whatever it is.

00:15:30.960 So he's legally sitting on that in a way that nobody else can, like, claw back.

00:15:35.280 No refunds.

00:15:36.140 Right.

00:15:36.280 It's a lot like the Ralph Northam situation.

00:15:37.800 Remember, Ralph Northam was discovered to be wearing blackface, and everybody assumed that he was going to have to quit his job.

00:15:43.720 But it turned out nobody could force him to quit, and it wasn't in his interest to quit.

00:15:47.740 So he didn't.

00:15:48.560 I see the same thing going on with Joe Biden.

00:15:50.160 I think Pelosi and the other Democrats' only hope is to essentially convince Joe Biden that he already did, in fact, leave the – resign and drop out of the race.

00:15:57.060 Because, you know, his cognitive ability is not really there, so maybe he can be just convinced that actually it already happened.

00:16:02.780 Or I've heard someone else say that they – you know how they have that, like, separate White House, that, like, fake Oval Office set?

00:16:09.260 Just put him over there and tell him that he's still the president.

00:16:12.380 Right.

00:16:13.420 And, like, bring in a Trump impersonator and hold another couple of debates and make him think that he's still running and then, you know, actually have him sign off.

00:16:21.600 But it goes to your point, though, that it's Jill Biden and Hunter Biden who – and we've said this on Human Events Daily since episode one, by the way.

00:16:29.920 And folks, remember the Shade War updates that we used to do?

00:16:32.200 That it's always been them that were actually calling the shots.

00:16:36.240 They set up this bubble around him.

00:16:37.820 And it's amazing.

00:16:38.520 You know, I get called a conspiracy theorist for saying it for years, and then all of a sudden the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, they're all saying the exact same thing.

00:16:47.020 Right, yeah, your updates are, you know, pointing out something that I don't see very much in the news, which is that the Bidens and Kamala Harris do not like each other.

00:16:54.420 No.

00:16:54.740 At all.

00:16:55.540 I mean, go back all the way to the debates, the primary debates in 2020 where Kamala called him a racist.

00:17:00.660 They didn't forget that.

00:17:01.860 They felt like they had to put her in as the VP for identity politics reasons, but that doesn't mean there's any love between those factions.

00:17:08.880 And the Bidens know that in the event that they drop out, it's almost certainly going to be Kamala, and I don't think they want that to happen.

00:17:14.580 But, Will Chamberlain, we've got about a minute left here in the segment.

00:17:18.160 We've got Senator Mike Lee joining us next.

00:17:20.460 For the Article III project, where do people go to get more information?

00:17:24.040 Right.

00:17:24.260 Go to a3paction.org, a3paction.org.

00:17:28.300 That's the website where you can go and participate in any number of calls to action.

00:17:33.080 With a few clicks, email your congressperson on an issue that matters to you.

00:17:36.180 Right now, the primary thing we're pushing is to get your congresspeople to vote the right way on the SAVE Act and get there through the House.

00:17:42.220 It's so simple, folks.

00:17:43.480 Use leverage to get what we want across the board.

00:17:48.580 It's called using power.

00:17:49.980 You can't just have principles.

00:17:51.500 You actually have to wield power.

00:17:54.200 Stay tuned.

00:17:54.580 Senator Mike Lee joins us next.

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00:18:10.640 All right, Jack Posobiec back live here.

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00:19:04.880 Very honored once again to have on Senator Mike Lee from the great state of Utah.

00:19:09.500 Senator, how are you?

00:19:10.900 Doing great.

00:19:11.640 Good to be with you.

00:19:12.620 Well, Senator, we've been talking about the SAVE Act all week.

00:19:14.900 We saw President Trump's post, and even for him, I would say, this was a quite vociferous post, quite emphatic post about really pushing on Republicans in the Congress to focus on the SAVE Act.

00:19:30.120 You yourself are focused on this.

00:19:32.240 Tell me, why was the SAVE Act something that was so on the top of your list of things to focus on?

00:19:38.640 The SAVE Act's a top priority for me for one simple reason.

00:19:41.920 President Biden has let in an estimated, I don't know, 10, 11, 12 million illegal aliens just in the last three and a half years alone.

00:19:49.300 You add that to others already here, the total non-citizen population of the United States estimated at around 30 million.

00:19:56.280 So you add that to the fact that under the National Voter Registration Act passed in 1993, as it was interpreted by the Supreme Court of the United States a few years ago, a non-citizen, while non-citizens are currently prohibited from voting in federal elections, a non-citizen may go and apply for a driver's license.

00:20:16.880 All 50 states and the District of Columbia will issue a driver's license to a non-citizen. 0.92

00:20:23.880 And then if they just check a box and sign a paper saying that they're eligible to vote in federal elections, it's on the honor system.

00:20:31.200 From that moment forward, they can be registered to vote.

00:20:33.440 And here's the thing, because of the way the Supreme Court interpreted that 1993 law, the state officials registering them to vote under the motor voter framework are prohibited from asking them to verify their U.S. citizenship.

00:20:49.780 That's a problem, and it's a perfect storm, especially with how President Biden has deliberately added so many non-citizens to our population illegally just in the last few years.

00:20:59.860 So that's why we've got to pass the SAVE Act, because the SAVE Act would say you've got to be able to establish your citizenship, prove your U.S. citizenship in order to vote in a federal election, in order to register to vote in a federal election.

00:21:12.900 There's no legitimate basis upon which someone could oppose this.

00:21:16.980 Now, that being said, I think it's something, and we just had Will Chamberlain from the Article 3 Project on talking about this as well.

00:21:22.780 This is something, by the way, which I'm sure would be an 80-20 issue if pulled.

00:21:26.960 You always seem to find 20 percent that just don't agree with whatever the question is.

00:21:31.500 But when it comes down to it, we've already heard that President Biden or, you know, whoever is actually running the office at the time would plan to veto it.

00:21:40.500 The question that comes in for a lot of people is what can Congress do to overcome that?

00:21:47.360 OK, first of all, Jack, it's quite a different thing.

00:21:51.720 It's one thing for the President of the United States to say, I don't like it, I would veto it.

00:21:58.220 It's quite another thing to actually veto it.

00:22:01.620 Just think this hypothetical through for a moment.

00:22:04.320 If Congress were able to get this passed and it arrived at his desk, you know, months or perhaps even weeks before a federal election,

00:22:15.140 is he really going to be prepared to veto that thing?

00:22:19.180 And what message does that send?

00:22:21.200 Moreover, when you look at the basis for his opposition to it, what he said day before yesterday when he put out a statement,

00:22:27.660 in essence, it boiled down to, number one, it's already illegal to vote in federal elections if you're a non-citizen.

00:22:35.000 And number two, this would add excessively to delays.

00:22:38.200 That doesn't withstand review.

00:22:40.520 It doesn't withstand any kind of analysis in the first place as to saying it's already illegal to vote.

00:22:46.560 By that same logic, there's no need for laws, I don't know, requiring a photo ID to buy beer and cigarettes

00:22:54.460 to establish that you're not a minor, that you're not underage.

00:22:59.100 Nobody would defend that.

00:23:00.460 And that's exactly the same argument, the same reason they're using here.

00:23:03.820 Next, he relies on the fact that, oh, it would add to the administrative burdens, it would be time-consuming.

00:23:10.080 Well, look, every single time you start a job, if you buy new employment and you sign up as a new employee at a job,

00:23:18.160 something that most Americans do from time to time, you have to fill out an I-9.

00:23:23.240 And in filling out the I-9, you have to establish that you are a U.S. citizen.

00:23:27.980 And so if you have to do that for something like a job, you ought to also have to do that to register to vote in a federal election.

00:23:35.700 In fact, it's imperative here, since we now have so many non-citizens in the country, 1.00

00:23:39.480 including more illegal aliens than ever who have entered just in the last three and a half years alone,

00:23:45.520 it should be imperative because otherwise you're diluting the votes of American citizens and you're disenfranchising them.

00:23:51.160 And this is exactly why that we're saying that it would be an 80-20 issue.

00:23:59.340 This is something where, and people can see that the citizens of New York City are running up to hotels

00:24:04.760 and screaming that you're taking your jobs away, you're taking those, this is not a popular policy.

00:24:11.940 There's no way that they could stand on any of these things.

00:24:14.700 That being said, Joe Biden is clearly not a popular president and someone who, as you say,

00:24:20.740 potentially would be looking at this as a huge egg on his face if he were to actually veto this thing when it comes up.

00:24:29.240 So I certainly hope.

00:24:30.260 Now, obviously, being on the Senate side, do you think that it looks like there would be a possibility for it to pass the Senate?

00:24:37.160 OK, look, first, we've got to get it past the House.

00:24:40.260 I believe that vote is still taking place sometime today.

00:24:42.860 Once it gets past the House, one of the first things that I'm going to do is try to figure out opportunities to get this teed up for a vote,

00:24:49.940 to try to pass it by unanimous consent, try to get it teed up by unanimous consent in the Senate.

00:24:55.020 And if somebody wants to object to it, I'd love to hear their reasons for why.

00:24:58.640 I'd love to have them stand before the American people on the Senate floor and explain, oh, no, we can't.

00:25:03.280 We can't pass this.

00:25:04.520 We can't even vote on it.

00:25:05.900 I'd love to hear their analysis.

00:25:08.000 I think saying that they would oppose it is one thing.

00:25:10.340 Actually doing it is quite another.

00:25:12.060 I also think once it passes the House, we ought to be looking for what other legislation we might be able to attach the SAVE Act to.

00:25:18.840 There are just a few must-pass vehicles, as we call them, bills that are likely to pass this year because we need to, things like a spending bill.

00:25:29.760 The current spending period runs out on September 30th.

00:25:32.500 I think we ought to look for opportunities to attach the SAVE Act to something like that.

00:25:37.560 Well, I think that's perfect because we've seen time and time again where there are opportunities to attach that.

00:25:43.660 Look, we understand that federal spending is going to go through at some point.

00:25:46.800 But the question is, are we going to use those federal spending packages to get what we want in there or not?

00:25:54.180 And this has been a huge criticism, I think, of a lot of people, certainly a lot of our comments when we get it in.

00:25:58.920 They say, you know, we're funding NATO.

00:26:01.100 We're fully funding Ukraine.

00:26:02.460 We're fully funding all these things over and around the world.

00:26:05.320 And we've got, obviously, the NATO summit here in town right now.

00:26:08.160 I can't drive anywhere because it's completely under lockdown like it was when Biden was inaugurated.

00:26:13.460 But at the same time, the question is, if we're putting all that funding out, why are we not doing any funding, number one, to just simply secure our elections?

00:26:20.500 That has no bearing on who wins the election, by the way.

00:26:23.400 It's just making sure that it's secure.

00:26:24.860 Though, obviously, I think we know it does have a little bit of bearing on who wins the election because it does tilt the scales in one direction.

00:26:31.720 But also that we're not even putting up stuff to defend our own border.

00:26:36.580 That's exactly right.

00:26:37.420 And you've got to remember, in the current Congress, Jack, you cannot pass any substantive legislation, any bill, without the Republican-controlled House of Representatives.

00:26:48.200 So if Republicans in the House said, we're not going to pass X, Y, or Z unless the SAVE Act or something like it is attached, it would be the case.

00:26:58.520 Likewise with the Senate.

00:26:59.420 We are in the minority in the Senate, and yet in this Congress, you can't pass basically any substantive bill without, you know, at least 60 votes.

00:27:10.200 Which means that even if Democrats didn't like the idea, Republicans, if they held their ground, 41 Republicans, any 41 senators for that matter.

00:27:19.460 But 41 is a number that is a subset of the 49 Republicans we've got in the Senate.

00:27:24.720 If 41 stood together and said, we're not going to pass A unless you attach B to it, we could make a difference.

00:27:34.020 And that's precisely right.

00:27:35.220 Now, if we can, I'd love to, we've got a couple of minutes, four minutes before the break.

00:27:38.920 You know, we're seeing this NATO summit right now.

00:27:42.160 Have you had the opportunity yet, Senator, to meet any of the delegates from NATO?

00:27:44.980 No, no, I haven't.

00:27:48.220 I did find it interesting last night, though, as President Biden walked onto that stage, he did make it successfully from the side of the stage to the podium.

00:27:55.300 So I thought that was a minor victory we should celebrate.

00:27:57.920 Absolutely.

00:27:58.480 We have to celebrate that at all times.

00:28:00.300 But, you know, we've seen the delegations running around.

00:28:02.860 And, of course, we've got the clip here.

00:28:04.460 And, of course, we've seen a lot of these calls for F-16s now that are going to be backfilled into Ukraine.

00:28:10.580 We're also hearing calls for more NATO munitions, et cetera, to be sent.

00:28:15.120 But one of the real issues, and just two minutes until the break, that Ukraine has isn't necessarily from a technological standpoint.

00:28:20.880 It's actually from a manpower standpoint.

00:28:23.460 Yeah.

00:28:24.200 Their human resources pool has been dwindling.

00:28:27.580 They're using older and younger conscripts to fight their war.

00:28:33.040 And one of the problems that I've had with this effort and with our approach to funding this proxy war is that there has been no plan for peace.

00:28:45.720 There's been no reasonably achievable path toward peace.

00:28:50.040 It's been the focus of the aid that's been given to Ukraine.

00:28:53.640 And so what we've done is sort of feed the military-industrial complex of the United States under the guise of, gosh, this will be good for jobs in the U.S., while simultaneously contributing to the loss of life in Ukraine and simultaneously not having any clear path toward what we want to achieve and how to bring this thing to a close.

00:29:18.660 So it looks like we're funding what's designed to be perhaps a perpetual or a decade-long proxy war against a nuclear power.

00:29:28.280 That's really dangerous, and I think it's unwise.

00:29:31.840 And we used to understand this.

00:29:34.240 We used to understand that, and this is why, and, you know, we saw just a couple of weeks ago, Biden comes out and says U.S. missiles will be authorized to strike within the Russian heartland in these border regions next to Ukraine.

00:29:47.480 And then, of course, what happens a week later, Russia sends nuclear-tipped subs right off of the coast of Florida.

00:29:54.760 I think people need to understand this isn't happening by accident.

00:29:58.500 They're sending a message and responding to actions that we are making.

00:30:03.120 Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily.

00:30:04.480 We're on with Senator Mike Lee.

00:30:06.260 Quick break.

00:30:06.660 Right back.

00:30:09.480 Where is Jack?

00:30:11.880 Where is Jack?

00:30:14.200 Where is he?

00:30:15.500 Jack, I want to see you.

00:30:17.480 Great job, Jack.

00:30:20.640 Thank you.

00:30:21.420 What a job you do.

00:30:22.840 You know, we have an incredible thing.

00:30:24.240 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.

00:30:30.020 All right, Jack Posobiec back live, Human Events Daily, Washington, D.C.

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00:31:16.460 Senator, we're talking about NATO.

00:31:18.680 I've just seen this report from Poland, Poland's new left-wing government, saying that their new army chief says that Poland must prepare the army for full-scale conflict.

00:31:30.420 Now, Poland, of course, is a NATO member.

00:31:33.400 Ukraine is not. 0.89

00:31:35.100 We're backfilling F-16s over.

00:31:37.500 It seems as though, you know, I've said this before and I said it yesterday, that it seems as though whether or not Ukraine goes into NATO, it seems that NATO is already inside Ukraine.

00:31:50.680 This is a risk of escalation that doesn't really seem to be taken into account when we hear these lofty statements about freedom and democracy and, you know, opposing autocracy from the NATO summit itself.

00:32:03.360 Yeah, it's very risky, risky from multiple standpoints.

00:32:08.520 First, by funding the proxy war and allowing that war to be perpetuated longer than it might have otherwise been able to last.

00:32:17.660 First, we're increasing dramatically the likelihood of it spilling over into NATO allied territory.

00:32:26.340 And when that happens, of course, it triggers Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty, obligating member states, including the United States, to protect those when they're involved in a war.

00:32:39.380 Then meanwhile, you've got people, including a number of my colleagues, Democrats and Republicans, openly calling on us to expand NATO, to either formally bring Ukraine into NATO or at a minimum pass legislation to treat Ukraine as if it were a NATO member state.

00:33:02.160 Let me explain why that is so supremely dangerous because of the Article 5 obligation under the North Atlantic Treaty and because Ukraine is already at war with Russia.

00:33:13.800 That is tantamount to a declaration of war against Russia, a nuclear armed power. 0.55

00:33:21.440 This is incredibly dangerous. Now, to be clear, although some of my colleagues take a different approach and they're mistaken on that, we still are required.

00:33:32.980 Anytime we go to war, we're supposed to declare war.

00:33:35.800 We're supposed to adopt legislation doing that. 0.98

00:33:39.820 Some of my colleagues take the position that Article 5 of NATO supersedes that and can circumvent that.

00:33:47.300 They're wrong. But regardless, it could have the same effect for purposes of provocation of Russia if we were to either incorporate Ukraine into NATO or treat them as if they were a member state of NATO.

00:34:02.720 That would be perceived by them as a declaration of war against Russia.

00:34:06.880 And that's just an incredibly dangerous, reckless thing to do.

00:34:10.220 And, you know, it's funny that you bring up Article 5 and not funny, but it's horrifying in some instances if you're actually considering the implications of that.

00:34:21.120 But I recall this was something that I recalled while watching the debate with Joe Biden and President Trump.

00:34:26.820 And, of course, everyone's focused and I think rightly so, obviously, on the condition of Joe Biden as a commander in chief.

00:34:31.380 Because, again, as we're also talking about escalating this proxy war into a possible further expanded conflict with the Russian state, this is the guy that we have running things or perhaps it's the commander in chief with Dr. Jill.

00:34:44.220 I'm not sure. Perhaps after 5 p.m. she takes over.

00:34:46.840 But he himself, in the content of his speech, invoked Article 5 over and over and over in the debate.

00:34:57.480 And I don't know if people really understood what it was that he was getting at.

00:35:03.200 And it seemed to me like in his mind he was almost teasing using Article 5 as a way to put pressure on Trump or something.

00:35:12.420 Why do you think he kept bringing it up like that?

00:35:14.100 Yeah, I think he wants to normalize the notion that Article 5 somehow authorizes or even obligates us to get into this war in earnest rather than just as a proxy funder of the war.

00:35:27.940 And I think that, too, is incredibly disturbing.

00:35:30.940 Ukraine is not a NATO member state.

00:35:33.280 And remember, the whole point of NATO and the whole point of Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty is to provide something like an insurance policy.

00:35:43.020 It's analogous to an insurance policy that says, you know, we're going to band together for attack or band together for purposes of defending each other.

00:35:51.860 But just as you don't issue an insurance policy on a house that's already on fire, you don't bring somebody into the North Atlantic Treaty who is already at war, especially at war with the country we're loathe to go to war against because they're a nuclear armed power.

00:36:07.820 You don't do that while they're already at war with that nation, namely Russia.

00:36:13.440 Well, you know, Senator, it's also interesting because and we've got, you know, a book out now talking about history and we get into the interwar period, but we also talk about World War One.

00:36:23.140 And I point out that especially with World War One, one of the things that people always get into is, well, how is it that the assassination of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand, who is the heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne, triggers a world war?

00:36:37.760 And it's because of the alliances that it triggers and the system of military defense alliances.

00:36:43.920 And they say, oh, well, that's really interesting.

00:36:45.780 But nothing like that could ever certainly happen again.

00:36:47.940 And I say, isn't that exactly what we're talking about right now with NATO?

00:36:51.980 And it seems like nobody ever connects those dots.

00:36:55.120 Right.

00:36:55.660 And it becomes especially easy for that sort of thing to happen when you've got a large, not just a bilateral security agreement, not just a bilateral treaty.

00:37:04.300 It's a multi, multi, multilateral agreement in the North Atlantic Treaty.

00:37:09.000 And that's exactly how these things happen.

00:37:10.720 And these things are, in a sense, not new.

00:37:14.480 George Washington warned us against the entangling alliances that had so plagued the older nations of Europe for so many centuries.

00:37:23.640 He warned us against those things.

00:37:26.500 And so we should really be conscious of those today more than we have been.

00:37:32.780 Now, NATO was formed many decades ago for a purpose.

00:37:37.960 It's a purpose different than what we've got today.

00:37:41.100 It doesn't mean necessarily that it's obsolete today.

00:37:45.000 But I do think we've got to have more conversations than we do today about whether it still makes sense in its current form, whether it still makes sense at all.

00:37:53.720 But certainly about whether and to what extent we ought to be talking about adding an entity, adding a member state like Ukraine that is so frequently at war that it's going to be very difficult to ensure, so to speak.

00:38:08.080 President John Quincy Adams as well, even echoing those statements, saying that America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy.

00:38:18.840 She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all.

00:38:22.500 She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.

00:38:25.720 And this really is the essence of what President Trump has spoken about, about changing to an America-first foreign policy.

00:38:32.280 Isn't that right?

00:38:33.820 Yes.

00:38:34.340 Yes.

00:38:34.620 And I think that also bodes in favor of something like a reinvigorated modern Monroe Doctrine, something that focuses first and foremost on the most immediate potential threats to American national security.

00:38:48.240 We ought to be focused far more than we are on our own hemisphere, our own hemisphere, where communist China is making massive inroads throughout Latin America, Central and South America.

00:39:00.480 It's almost hard to identify a country these days that isn't increasingly entangled with China. 0.97

00:39:06.220 We ought to be focused far more on that than we are on seeking out these foreign excursions and military ventures, profitable as they may be for the military-industrial complex of the U.S.

00:39:18.920 Well, Senator, I even saw a video last week that shows that some of the narco cartels are using the same type of drone technology that was utilized on the battlefield in Ukraine.

00:39:28.820 Now you've got those organizations using the same technology just south of the border.

00:39:33.540 I have a feeling that we're going to see it happening much closer to the border very soon, and yet our eye is all the way over on the other side of the world.

00:39:42.940 Without question.

00:39:44.160 I mean, those who aren't currently using them will certainly start adopting them more now that it's been viewable by people all over the world what they were able to do with that drone technology in the war in Ukraine.

00:39:59.340 Some of them, as you mentioned, have already been using it, you know, cartel-to-cartel violence.

00:40:04.300 It could get a lot worse, and it's likely to at this point.

00:40:07.420 I think it will.

00:40:07.940 Senator Mike Lee, where can people go to follow you?

00:40:10.960 At basedmikelee.com.

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00:40:16.340 Always an honor, Senator.

00:40:17.100 Thank you for being with us here at Human Events Daily.

00:40:20.580 Right back.

00:40:21.180 We're great.

00:40:21.460 I hear about the boring people at your office.

00:40:26.660 I'm trying to listen to the new Human Events with Jack Posobiec.

00:40:30.880 All right, Jack Posobiec back live.

00:40:32.480 Human Events Daily here, Washington, D.C.

00:40:34.700 Look, folks, we have 117 days now to victory.

00:40:39.720 What are you doing to get ready?

00:40:41.680 Look, Steve Bannon said this from the very start, and he's back where he is right now because he had the courage to walk in.

00:40:47.980 So if he had the courage to walk in, then you can have the courage to text your friends.

00:40:52.340 You can have the courage to text your group chat, to text your family, or perhaps you can have the courage to sign up to actually chase ballots and bank ballots.

00:41:01.820 Caitlin Sinclair is the official spokeswoman for Turning Point Action, and she is joining us right now to tell us exactly how to do that.

00:41:09.540 Caitlin, how are you?

00:41:12.620 It's me here, Jack.

00:41:13.660 So just saw the new piece over on Newsweek that says young people are flocking to the Republican Party.

00:41:21.980 National Opinion Public Reference Survey, published by Pew, says that currently for voters under 30 are skewing Republican 47 to 46, and one of the first times they've ever seen this.

00:41:36.240 How can the movement capitalize on these recent gains?

00:41:40.160 Well, what we're doing at Turning Point Action just this week, Jack, we just announced our new coalition, which is our Gen Z coalition.

00:41:49.040 Really exciting news.

00:41:50.540 And this is all part of our Chase the Vote initiative.

00:41:53.940 So as we head into an election, Jack, where 41 million Gen Z Americans are eligible to vote,

00:42:00.580 I believe this fight to win America back, this election cycle, actually starts with young people.

00:42:05.740 And, of course, that's what we're focused on at Turning Point Action.

00:42:08.460 Now, this coalition, I'll tell your listeners a little bit about the three principles that it stands for, which is anti-war.

00:42:15.020 I know you'll like that.

00:42:15.880 So it's anti-war, affordable housing and living, and then restoring American values for the next generation.

00:42:21.980 So when we think or talk about Generation Z or even the millennial generation, the America we grew up in,

00:42:28.400 it no longer exists for the folks coming in behind us, the generation coming in right under us. 1.00

00:42:33.740 This generation, the Gen Zers grew up in this post-9-11 America, where they get to hear stories about how great this country used to be.

00:42:43.260 They get to hear stories about how we all came together as patriots and about love of country before this country went into overspending and endless wars.

00:42:53.980 And they have not got to benefit off of the amazing morals and values that this country was founded on.

00:43:00.060 So we're fighting that.

00:43:01.700 We're having the messaging.

00:43:02.840 We're having these conversations.

00:43:04.240 And this coalition, Jack Stans, are bringing back these core principles that the United States was founded on and great American exceptionalism.

00:43:11.380 Look, this is so important that people have to understand that for Gen Z, 9-11 is something they read about in a history book or something that their parents told them to.

00:43:22.320 By the way, I know you're a New Yorker, and I've had that conversation with my little boy, and he's only six, and explaining to him this is what the Twin Towers were.

00:43:33.180 And he's been to New York, and I've shown him, like, the, you know, the Ground Zero and the memorials.

00:43:39.820 But to him, it's a story about something that happened, and I've shown him pictures, but he doesn't have that direct connection to what the country used to be.

00:43:48.540 So this is huge for turning point action.

00:43:51.260 Take all of this sentiment that's out there and then actually turn it into ballots.

00:43:56.000 Because we keep seeing this in poll after poll, where people are saying, hey, we like Donald Trump, we like these policies, we support this stuff, but they're people who, by and large, don't have a history of voting.

00:44:07.640 That's where turning point action can come in.

00:44:11.620 Exactly, right?

00:44:12.620 So it's all about the low-propensity voters.

00:44:15.020 And when you look at some of these polls, the percentage of low-propensity voters is actually most likely to support Donald Trump.

00:44:22.500 So what does that mean?

00:44:23.400 That means we have to encourage those folks to get out and vote, because they're actually Donald Trump supporters.

00:44:30.320 They've maybe been disenfranchised or don't have faith in the election system anymore.

00:44:34.560 And that's exactly what these coalitions are about.

00:44:36.400 That's exactly what we're about in Turning Point Action, registering new voters, recruiting activists, and then make sure we're chasing those ballots.

00:44:43.640 And it all starts with just having these simple conversations.

00:44:46.600 And you're right.

00:44:47.340 I don't think people are sitting back anymore.

00:44:49.420 You and I were just at the People's Convention, the amazing event, the Turning Point Action.

00:44:53.400 And I think the messaging out of that, Jack, was the days of spectator politics is long over, right?

00:45:01.160 Those days are long behind us.

00:45:03.040 And the young people, this Gen Z generation, again, 41 million Gen Z Americans eligible to vote this election cycle.

00:45:10.460 And they want to be involved.

00:45:12.140 They want to have a voice.

00:45:13.440 And they're doing something about it.

00:45:14.960 So you can go to coalitions.com to find out more about these coalitions.

00:45:19.140 It's not just a Gen Z coalition.

00:45:20.760 We have a mom's coalition, a faith coalition, a Black America's coalition, farmers coalition.

00:45:25.800 So there's really something for everyone over at TPN.

00:45:28.400 Look, folks, it's incumbent upon us now.

00:45:32.820 117 days left.

00:45:35.500 And this is something that one of the last conversations I had with Steve Vann.

00:45:38.360 And before he went to where he is now, he said, what are you doing to get in the fight?

00:45:42.160 He said, you want to write letters to me?

00:45:43.720 Don't write letters to me.

00:45:45.220 Reach out to people in the swing states.

00:45:48.420 And so Caitlin, as an example of that, so what states is TP Action currently focused on?

00:45:52.840 We're mainly focused on Wisconsin and Arizona right now, hiring full time.

00:45:58.600 But we're expanding into Michigan.

00:46:00.580 And really, there's, again, there's somewhere for everyone.

00:46:04.500 There's something for everyone everywhere.

00:46:06.300 So if that includes postcards, you know, phone calls, just sign up, have these conversations.

00:46:13.440 You can have a movie night, host a barbecue.

00:46:16.780 I don't know.

00:46:17.560 Start the conversations with your neighbors and in your community.

00:46:20.200 So there's ways to get involved across the board.

00:46:22.240 We're focused on those few states for now.

00:46:24.240 But you can go to our app, which is just TP Action or turningpoint.com to find out how

00:46:29.120 you can get involved.

00:46:31.740 Look, ladies and gentlemen, if you're not in the house, you don't have the ability to

00:46:36.880 pass the SAVE Act.

00:46:37.860 You may not have the ability to start, you know, Truth Social or buy Twitter and turn

00:46:42.560 it into X like Elon Musk did.

00:46:44.460 You may not be someone who's a major donor.

00:46:47.000 Now, if you are, by the way, please get in touch.

00:46:48.580 Um, but you know, if you, yeah, I know.

00:46:52.640 Right.

00:46:53.180 And, but, but at the same time, you've got to get up.

00:46:55.520 Caitlin, before I let you go.

00:46:56.760 So am I going to see you up in Wisconsin, Milwaukee?

00:47:00.500 Absolutely.

00:47:01.140 I'll be there.

00:47:01.820 And I want to say one thing.

00:47:03.020 I like what you're, you're alluding to, because you're right.

00:47:06.240 We, this is the time to get involved now.

00:47:09.100 Jack, we talk about all the time, these, these Twitter wars, the social media frenzies, these

00:47:14.020 millennials and Gen Zers sitting in their parents' basement, playing video games, tweeting 0.86

00:47:17.960 out, complaining about inflation, complaining that they don't like the president.

00:47:21.700 Here in New York, females complaining that women are getting punched in the face. 1.00

00:47:24.900 Okay.

00:47:25.240 Do something about it.

00:47:26.260 Right.

00:47:26.780 Charlie Kerr put this beautifully at the People's Convention.

00:47:29.800 We cannot just count on Donald Trump to save us.

00:47:32.440 We need to save him first.

00:47:34.540 And that includes getting involved.

00:47:36.280 And that time is now.

00:47:37.820 Caitlin Sinclair, where can people go to follow you?

00:47:40.640 Just at Caitlin Sinclair.

00:47:42.500 My name's right below.

00:47:43.620 And then on Twitter, CSinclairTV.

00:47:46.300 CSinclairTV.

00:47:47.280 Give her a follow, folks. 0.99

00:47:48.140 Also want to thank everyone for making us the number one live stream currently on X.

00:47:53.680 Thank you so much to the entire audience here.

00:47:56.900 By the way, shoot us an email, 1776 at humanevents.com, 1776 at humanevents.com.

00:48:02.440 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay it short.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - July 10, 2024

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