Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - July 17, 2026


CPAC UK AND THE SHARED FIGHT FOR WESTERN CIVILIZATION


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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, it's Jack. I wanted to let you know that we're starting a new push for subscriptions
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00:00:34.960 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
00:00:44.080 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:00:50.760 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:00:53.820 Christ is king.
00:00:55.400 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
00:00:59.660 Today is July 17th, 2026, Anno Domine, and we are here live at CPAC UK, CPAC GB, here
00:01:09.120 in London, England, and I had the honor not only to speak here in the UK, in London, but
00:01:17.460 also to sit down with some of the leading figures in British politics, not only with
00:01:23.980 the great Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg here, who is a conservative MP, but also with Liz Truss,
00:01:32.480 former prime minister and one of the key organizers of CPAC Great Britain. Now,
00:01:38.340 what a lot of people have to understand back home in America is that the UK doesn't have
00:01:44.380 this system of a conservative movement the way that we've had in the United States for a generation
00:01:50.280 now. That only really got started in the U.S. Keep in mind, the conservative movement really
00:01:55.000 got started with Ronald Reagan. And then after the Reagan era, you had folks like Rush Limbaugh
00:02:01.400 and the rise of talk radio, the rise of conservative media, and then everything that came
00:02:07.440 since. And I've always said that Rush Limbaugh was the pioneer of that. The U.K. has never really
00:02:12.960 had that system yet. They're starting to. They're getting there. They did Brexit. They had Nigel
00:02:17.760 Farage, who also was a speaker here. You've seen a lot of the rise of independent media now in the
00:02:25.300 UK, and more and more is still coming. And that's why holding a CPAC here, and of course there are
00:02:32.000 members of Turning Point who are here as well, to see what can be done on the ground in terms of
00:02:36.780 organizing is so key and so important, because it's not just about holding an event and getting
00:02:44.020 up and speaking. It's about the meetings. It's about the connections. It's about building the
00:02:47.800 infrastructure. And by the way, we're fighting for the same things. We're rowing in the same
00:02:53.280 direction. The fight for freedom of speech is happening right here in England, where, by the
00:02:57.580 way, the idea of freedom of speech first came up. In the UK, this is where we have so many of the
00:03:06.220 basis of the rights that we have, that we take for granted, and that we fight for and cherish in the
00:03:11.820 United States, the UK, they've lost a lot of those rights. There are people here. Lucy Connelly is
00:03:18.680 here. She did 36 months in prison for a Facebook post. I just met her. She's going to be speaking
00:03:24.840 later. There are people here who are political prisoners. There are now 16,000 people year on
00:03:34.960 year who are arrested in the United Kingdom for speech crimes, for posts online. That's going on
00:03:43.900 in a country where freedom of speech was born. We saw this in the United States with Doug Mackey
00:03:49.280 got arrested for posting on me. We saw people banned. We saw people debanked for having opinions
00:03:56.800 online, having an opinion on Facebook, having an opinion on who won or didn't win the 2020 election.
00:04:03.060 And, of course, President Trump gave an incredible speech last night detailing the interference of the Chinese Communist Party in the 2020 election. 0.77
00:04:12.380 And I'll simply say on that point, we need massive tariffs as a response to the Chinese Communist Party's interference. 0.73
00:04:23.060 Tariffs, and then take a look at it. 0.97
00:04:24.760 Take every single visa of a Chinese student or a Chinese worker in the United States and shred it. 0.93
00:04:30.980 There needs to be a response for this. 1.00
00:04:33.060 China must pay.
00:04:34.240 I don't even get me started on the fact that China has still not paid a dime for the damage 0.93
00:04:40.140 that was caused by COVID-19, which was concocted in that lab in Wuhan in these experiments, 0.82
00:04:49.400 the gain-of-function experiments, and Dr. Fauci was involved as well. 0.75
00:04:53.460 But clearly, that thing was designed, and China has not paid a cent for what they did, 0.50
00:05:01.440 not just the United States, by the way, but to the entire world. President Trump has all of the
00:05:07.260 tools and he's making the case. He's laying out the case against China. And I think now's the time.
00:05:14.080 Now is the time to take it directly to them. And in fact, here at CPAC UK, I've been having many
00:05:20.160 of those same conversations about how China, China is all over Europe. People need to understand this.
00:05:26.020 China is all over Europe
00:05:28.080 China, the Huawei is getting in everywhere
00:05:30.780 Chinese money is everywhere
00:05:32.240 you know, there's always been 0.85
00:05:34.840 this, you know, Russia, Russia, Russia
00:05:36.240 but I look around Europe and I don't see Russia, Russia, Russia
00:05:39.160 I see China, China, China
00:05:41.320 and so President Trump
00:05:42.680 is making the case and building
00:05:44.700 the infrastructure
00:05:46.380 the evidence, just like the evidence
00:05:48.720 has been dropping in the Tyler Robinson case
00:05:50.620 President Trump now bringing the
00:05:52.740 receipts, and who's there to help him?
00:05:54.460 not just our great colleague john solomon on the task force but bill the bulldog pulte and this is
00:06:03.160 exactly what we told you bill the bulldog would be doing that he's going to go in there and he's
00:06:07.100 going to run through this these guys and he's going to get the information and there's more to
00:06:11.720 come to be sure there's more to come and i'm not just saying that because i think so i'm saying
00:06:16.780 that because i know so i have been told that there are this is just the first tranche of documents
00:06:23.140 that are being declassified.
00:06:24.680 So as we're going through all of these, and there's so many, there's more come.
00:06:28.760 There are more that are working their way through the declassification process.
00:06:31.920 Of course, they have to check sources and methods and things like that.
00:06:35.080 The lawyers have to go through it.
00:06:36.300 But they're getting sign-off by every head of the intelligence community.
00:06:41.900 What does that mean?
00:06:42.980 That means that if you present this in court, if you present that as something that you
00:06:48.860 want to bring up, say, oh, I don't know.
00:06:50.320 you want to tariff China a thousand percent on every good and it makes its way to the Supreme
00:06:56.180 Court you can say well here's the receipts of what they did here's the receipts of what they 0.99
00:07:00.940 did to deserve this to receive this punitive tariff and you know something they deserve it
00:07:06.580 what are they going to say what are they going to say if the receipts are right there and I said
00:07:11.220 this last night I'll say it again isn't this an attack on our democracy isn't this an attack on
00:07:18.260 our republic. Remember how we heard those phrases over and over and over? No, this is literally an
00:07:24.340 attack on our democracy. It is a direct interference, an attack on American sovereignty,
00:07:29.480 on American election in 2020. I'll tell you why. I actually don't necessarily think that China was
00:07:36.120 pro-Biden. See, they said, oh, they did that because they wanted Biden to win. Here's what
00:07:40.900 I actually think happened. I think China is anti-America. And China knew that if President 0.99
00:07:51.000 Trump were in office, that would be America unleashed. That's America with all of the
00:07:57.800 innovation, Elon Musk, the SpaceX, everything that he's doing, the AI race, that would allow
00:08:05.460 America to get ahead of China. That's what this is about. It's about slowing down America. It's
00:08:11.980 about slowing down our innovation, slowing down everything that we are fighting for. And so what
00:08:17.420 do they do? They picked the candidate who can't get out of the slow lane. They picked the candidate
00:08:23.500 they knew would turn the whole focus of government inward, who would go after Trump supporters.
00:08:30.020 and they interfered in the race and joe biden got installed in office at inauguration that no one
00:08:39.320 attended oh yes everybody everybody likes to to to miss that point everyone likes to skip that point
00:08:45.740 that nobody was actually attending the joe biden inauguration there's a crowd of flags they put
00:08:52.160 flags on the national mall i remember i was there i looked at it never said anything like it there's
00:08:58.320 a reason. There's a reason that even the Democrats and even the media want to try to pretend like
00:09:03.620 none of that ever happened, just like they're trying to pretend that wokeness never happened. 0.65
00:09:06.440 Oh, it wasn't that bad. You guys are misremembering things. No, I remember. I remember what it was
00:09:11.240 like watching people get canceled online, watching people lose their freedoms just because you showed
00:09:16.720 up on January 6th. I saw people who were arrested. I know people who have gone to jail. I know people
00:09:21.460 who have done time, like Lucy Connelly here has done time. Steve Bannon was arrested. Peter Navarro
00:09:27.900 was arrested just for not testifying, not going along with the show trial, the show hearing of
00:09:33.320 Nancy Pelosi. All of these things happened and they all happened under Biden and you cannot ever
00:09:40.100 allow them to forget it. And so we won the 2024 election, but there's so much work to be done
00:09:46.720 and we can get help from the UK. We can get help all across Europe, Poland, Hungary.
00:09:52.680 We can get that support by finding like-minded individuals all over the world.
00:09:58.580 And I've always sort of made this remark that it's ironic that in order to fight globalism, it requires an international alliance of anti-globalists.
00:10:10.460 So this is Jack Posobiec coming to you live from London, England.
00:10:15.380 We'll be right back with more Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
00:10:22.040 nothing will stand in our way and our golden age has just begun this is human events with
00:10:36.280 now it's time for everyone to understand what america first truly means welcome to the second
00:10:43.660 American Revolution.
00:10:47.700 Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the stage
00:10:51.260 Jack Bosobiak, Senior Editor at Human Events.
00:11:13.660 Ladies and gentlemen,
00:11:22.660 God save Britain.
00:11:27.620 God save America.
00:11:29.960 And God save the West.
00:11:35.020 And God save me and my microphone.
00:11:38.680 There we are. We do have God.
00:11:39.820 We have God and of course we have our crosses right there.
00:11:44.540 Ladies and gentlemen, we're here today to talk about the media, but in a deeper sense,
00:11:54.560 we're going to talk about what the media isn't doing.
00:11:58.960 We're going to talk about the fact that the media's single greatest power is the power
00:12:05.760 of selective bias in terms of story selection.
00:12:10.660 What do I mean by story selection?
00:12:11.920 What do I mean by this?
00:12:13.660 This is one of the biggest, biggest problems facing the West right now.
00:12:19.040 And these are not merely academic problems.
00:12:21.840 These are not merely problems of a philosophical nature.
00:12:26.120 I've just come from Provo, Utah, which is a little town out in the West, just south of Salt Lake City.
00:12:34.760 and I spent one week in a courtroom
00:12:39.480 with the accused murderer of my friend Charlie Kirk
00:12:45.240 and with Charlie's family
00:12:48.160 and, in fact, with the accused's family sitting right there.
00:12:53.500 It's a very small room.
00:12:58.020 These actions and inactions by our media
00:13:01.200 have real-life consequences.
00:13:04.760 And I wanted to say, on behalf of myself and on behalf of the United States, that our prayers are with all of you and the family of Anne Whittacombe, who we know just lost her life.
00:13:20.560 In a horrific act of violence, one of the most savage and brutal acts of violence that I have seen,
00:13:32.580 and we now know, of course, that it is under investigation for a political motive.
00:13:39.580 And so we ask ourselves, what is going on?
00:13:43.420 Charlie Kirk assassinated.
00:13:46.140 Ann Whittacombe may have been a politically motivated murder.
00:13:52.220 In the United States, President Trump has faced three assassination attempts.
00:13:57.460 But by the grace of God, he was saved every single time.
00:14:02.420 And I do believe, and I'll say it here, that God has a plan for Donald Trump.
00:14:06.140 And I truly believe, by the way,
00:14:14.360 and I'm not even reading, so I'm just going to put this, you know,
00:14:17.220 that that plan includes the United Kingdom.
00:14:22.120 In fact, I was joking with my family.
00:14:24.420 My two boys and my wife are right here,
00:14:26.280 and they're not in the front row, but they're pretty close.
00:14:28.420 Hey, guys, thank you for coming.
00:14:29.960 and i noticed that when when president trump hosted king charles recently at the white house
00:14:39.920 that he gave an incredible speech and a very personal speech to him as well talking about
00:14:46.340 the shared civilization that the west has built the shared values of the united states and the
00:14:53.900 united kingdom and in fact the shared heritage that donald trump and his children personally
00:14:59.460 share because of his mother, who was born in Scotland. And of course, I also wondered,
00:15:05.820 does that make him eligible to run for office in the UK? Because I understand you're in need
00:15:11.340 of a prime minister. I'm just saying, I'm just thinking he'll be out and Starmer is,
00:15:20.100 is he still prime minister? Is he not prime minister? It's Schrodinger's Starmer, I think,
00:15:24.300 at this point. And, you know, I bid you well on having been rid of that disease. But unfortunately,
00:15:34.040 I don't know if you're out of the frying pan and into the fire with Andy Burnham. But we'll see.
00:15:42.980 The media plays a role in all of this. Because those of us assembled today, those of us who
00:15:52.000 work in this space, those of us who have a voice, those of us who have fought for the ideals and
00:15:58.520 the values that we believe gave rise to the greatest civilization on planet Earth, Western
00:16:04.100 civilization, that we feel that something is wrong in our civilization. We feel that something is
00:16:10.560 lost. We feel as though the elites are not listening to the people. And we can look out at
00:16:20.380 London. We can look out at New York City, where we have our wonderful mayor there, Zoran Mondami.
00:16:25.300 I'm sure you guys love him. You're sure you've heard of him. He's so great, isn't he?
00:16:28.840 By the way, just on a single note, you remember Zoran Mondami, he campaigned on saying the bus
00:16:36.300 would be free. He said, well, free buses for everyone. Free buses for everyone.
00:16:41.540 There are now, and I've just come from New York, because we went for the July 4th celebration. I
00:16:45.940 took the kids up to see the tall ships and the sails and the flyover.
00:16:52.780 And the buses in New York City now have a sign on them that says,
00:16:55.720 this bus is not free.
00:16:58.220 Because people actually thought that a socialist would tell the truth for once.
00:17:03.300 But as every single person in this room knows, all socialists do is lie.
00:17:08.240 And this is where the media comes in, because if you have a media that is captured and controlled
00:17:19.900 by the elites, then you won't hear about those lies. You won't hear about the response to it.
00:17:26.480 You won't hear about the rise of left-wing violence, of political violence, of migrant
00:17:33.260 violent violence, which of course we see here in the United Kingdom, that we see in the United
00:17:40.040 States, Rachel Morin, Jocelyn Nungary, Lakin Riley, and of course even here in the UK,
00:17:49.940 the young man by the name of Henry Novak. And Henry Novak died while the police, his own
00:17:58.420 government. The basic idea of the social contract was shredded in front of his eyes as his life
00:18:08.280 blood poured out while he was told that because of the color of his skin, because he happened
00:18:14.960 to be a young white man, that he hadn't been stabbed. He must have been the aggressor.
00:18:21.860 He was the one who was put in handcuffs as he died. This cannot stand.
00:18:28.420 This cannot stand in Britain, it cannot stand in America, it cannot stand anywhere in the West.
00:18:33.260 We will not accept two-tier policing, we will not accept two-tier justice, we will not accept two-tier anything.
00:18:43.440 No. No.
00:18:48.360 And if we believe in human rights, then that means we believe in rights for all.
00:18:54.480 This is the foundation of Western civilization, and we will continue to fight for that civilization
00:19:01.560 and those fundamental human rights which were denied to Henry Novak, who could have lived.
00:19:07.440 He was right around the corner from the station.
00:19:09.540 He was right around the corner.
00:19:13.080 And Charlie Kirk never heard the name Henry Novak.
00:19:15.780 No.
00:19:17.200 But I'll tell you what, if he had, Charlie would be right on the front lines fighting for this,
00:19:21.500 just like all of you are today, because that's what he fought for. That's what he lived. That's
00:19:27.260 what he died for. And when Charlie came to Oxford, he talked about that shared heritage. And he
00:19:32.820 talked about the respect that he had for the United Kingdom, the respect that he had for
00:19:36.920 the Enlightenment thinkers, John Locke, Adam Smith, and yes, Thomas Hobbes. Because as
00:19:44.540 conservatives, you know. All I'm going to say is Hobbes was right. And the media exists to act as
00:19:54.300 if none of this is happening. And to tell you that if you have a problem with it, well, we all know
00:19:59.900 the labels that then come out, a fix to your name, racist, xenophobe, conspiracies, all the rest.
00:20:07.080 and then a young man like Henry Novak dies
00:20:12.660 and people are left scratching their heads
00:20:15.360 and they say where's the CNN documentary
00:20:17.260 where's the BBC docu-series
00:20:19.460 where's the panorama on this
00:20:21.420 never happens
00:20:22.400 no
00:20:23.620 instead we get Kirstammer putting up
00:20:26.600 was the show Adolescence on Netflix
00:20:29.460 smearing young white men
00:20:32.380 again as if they are the only aggressors 0.93
00:20:35.460 in all of society
00:20:36.480 A society that is trained to fight itself will eventually do so.
00:20:43.640 It will disintegrate and it will pit the people against one another,
00:20:48.620 rather than focusing on the shared things that we all agree with, that we all believe in.
00:20:57.140 And I'll simply say something as this, that if you are a British person,
00:21:03.280 if you are British ancestry, then you are the native people of Britain. The native people of
00:21:10.580 Britain are the native people of Britain. It's as simple as that. And yet these basic truths
00:21:18.060 are completely expelled by the media. These basic facts of history, these basic facts of biology
00:21:24.020 that anyone can see. And yet that birthright is denied. Britain is being denied its birthright
00:21:32.500 and it can no longer stand.
00:21:35.720 The British people must rise up
00:21:37.900 and take back their country,
00:21:39.720 must rise up and take back their government,
00:21:42.900 must rise up for the future of the British people.
00:21:46.200 The same way the American people
00:21:48.180 are fighting as much as we can in the United States
00:21:52.000 and thank God we have a man like Donald J. Trump
00:21:56.260 to lead the way and lead the charge
00:21:58.740 to be able to do so.
00:22:02.500 For the rights of all.
00:22:05.640 And while I don't know if the specific legalities
00:22:08.880 of whether or not his ancestry through his mother
00:22:11.680 renders him eligible,
00:22:13.320 though I would point out
00:22:14.920 that your own immigration laws
00:22:19.100 seem to offer this possibility to Donald Trump.
00:22:23.180 Just saying.
00:22:24.460 But barring that,
00:22:27.100 I believe that the UK does have someone
00:22:30.400 named Nigel Farage, who I think would make a phenomenal prime minister of the United Kingdom
00:22:38.960 to actually see that Brexit is implemented and actually see that the protection of the
00:22:45.420 shores of this island is eternal. As Churchill said, as Churchill said, down to the very
00:22:53.120 beaches of England themselves. This is what the fight is about, ladies and gentlemen.
00:22:59.960 The fight is about the media and the elites who don't want something like CPAC GB happening.
00:23:05.780 They don't want us getting to know each other.
00:23:07.820 They don't want us getting together.
00:23:09.180 They don't want us organizing.
00:23:10.440 Well, guess what?
00:23:11.400 We're here.
00:23:12.760 I'm here.
00:23:13.680 And we're not going anywhere.
00:23:22.180 So, folks, I'll close as I started, and I will simply say this.
00:23:27.760 There was a quote from the great writer,
00:23:33.020 the great dissident, Alexander Solzhenitsyn,
00:23:35.580 towards the end of his life.
00:23:37.400 And, of course, he wrote about the Gulag Archipelago.
00:23:39.900 He wrote about the rise of Bolshevism.
00:23:42.200 He wrote about the excesses of the Soviet Union.
00:23:47.080 And they said to him,
00:23:48.140 Alexander, how could such a thing have happened?
00:23:50.320 How could such a thing have happened in the modern world?
00:23:53.100 How could such a thing have happened in modern society?
00:23:57.660 And he said, it's very simple.
00:24:00.640 We forgot God.
00:24:04.980 Solzhenitsyn said, it happened because we forgot God.
00:24:09.480 And so I take that and I realize that the way out of this is simple.
00:24:15.100 The way out of this is absolutely simple.
00:24:17.260 we must remember god and restore god to the very central core of western civilization where god
00:24:27.380 is and always belonged where he must be restored to his exact central core because this is the
00:24:33.780 foundation of our moral civilization this is the foundation of what it means to be a member of the
00:24:39.920 west what it means here to be a member of christian europe and it is only by turning to god that we
00:24:46.000 can save the West. Ladies and gentlemen, God save Britain, God save America, and God save the West.
00:24:53.860 Thank you.
00:25:16.000 Today, you know, they talk about influencers.
00:25:34.160 These are influencers.
00:25:36.040 And they're friends of mine.
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00:25:39.920 Where's Jack?
00:25:40.840 Jack.
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00:27:30.620 It is, it's deeply, it's deeply depraved.
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00:27:36.400 And I think there's also this sense of helplessness
00:27:43.880 Of what can we actually do about this
00:27:46.680 What can we do about the fact that we now have
00:27:50.320 These political, targeted, motivated killings taking place
00:27:58.460 Against figures who believe in the traditional values of our nations
00:28:07.220 Well, look, I've gone to the White House and spoken to the president about this.
00:28:12.720 And every time I see the president, I bring this topic up with him.
00:28:17.700 I think that it is an existential threat to not only our movement and the people in it, but also to the country.
00:28:28.500 Because if you have a situation where we had a Supreme Court justice just this week who was testifying and she said that because she made a ruling in a pro-life case and came down on the side of pro-life against a pro-choice legal decision, the Roe v. Wade case, that she was facing so many threats and that her home had been swatted that she was now wearing a bulletproof vest.
00:28:56.900 a justice of the supreme court and you know there's there's now this debate as to whether
00:29:03.920 or not that violence or that threat of violence is affecting her current decisions and and i i
00:29:09.960 think that's that's fair to say because we have this you probably don't even know if it's affecting
00:29:14.220 your decisions i think it is but do you know what i'm saying is the individual concerned
00:29:19.740 It could be affecting their decisions.
00:29:22.500 Well, she has eight children.
00:29:25.800 Yeah. 0.99
00:29:26.620 You know, and that's just how people operate.
00:29:29.340 And in a sense, you know, can you blame them?
00:29:32.440 Obviously the president has, and this is something that's real for the president
00:29:35.380 because he's got his five children,
00:29:37.700 and I don't even know how many grandchildren at this point,
00:29:41.560 and any one of them could be a threat simply because of doing what he does.
00:29:46.540 And so every time I see a member of the family, I thank them for being willing to be so public and take the stands that they do because this is all real for them.
00:29:54.980 They all have security now, all of them.
00:29:56.840 They all have Secret Service everywhere they go, all the time.
00:30:00.680 And even Kai, when she's on the golf course, she's got Secret Service, and she needs it, quite frankly.
00:30:06.220 And, look, it's the only way to deal with it is you have to stamp it out.
00:30:10.600 You have to stamp it out completely.
00:30:12.220 You have to fight it like you fight cancer, and that means root and stem.
00:30:15.720 and if you find people who are involved in this and by the way not speech not speech right speech
00:30:22.540 is a totally separate thing and because all these lefties try and then say well blah blah blah on
00:30:31.080 right right right that's their that's their kind of idea that you ban people from speaking right
00:30:36.440 and that's not what i'm saying which is the opposite of what needs to happen no and then
00:30:40.020 people said horrible things about charlie after um you know after the fact and i don't i don't
00:30:44.940 recall ever calling for anyone to be you know banned or arrested or something like that no
00:30:49.200 some people may have lost their jobs and you know gosh what a shame you know but but you know the
00:30:54.740 idea of being arrested for something like that that's i don't think charlie would would stand
00:30:58.240 for that quite frankly of course not because that is the basis of our civilization precisely and
00:31:02.900 that's that's why specifically so if there are organizations uh antifa organizations which are
00:31:09.880 real, which are quite real, who are involved in these types of things and organizing these types
00:31:15.700 of events, they need to be gone after. The hammer has to come down on them very swiftly. It has to
00:31:20.160 be public. And look, just speaking as American, I know that this happened in Utah. I've said it
00:31:25.680 publicly. I've said it, and it's, I don't know, kind of been written up in media now for taking
00:31:31.040 this stance. So people have asked me, do you support the death penalty for Charlie's accused
00:31:37.060 assassin and it is something that's actually on the table because it's utah it's out you're out
00:31:41.300 west yeah and you've been to utah and utah believe it or not still has on the books the firing squad
00:31:49.060 uh you the accused has to if i understand correctly they have to request it um but it's still it is
00:31:55.840 still applicable and what i said is this i would support that i would support that for all assassins
00:32:05.100 And here's why. Because an assassin isn't just a murderer. It's actually something worse.
00:32:11.320 A political assassin is actually targeting your, as you just said, your way of life,
00:32:17.300 your fundamental bedrock building blocks of the way of life.
00:32:21.680 What could be more an example or expression of free speech than going to the modern public square of a college campus,
00:32:29.520 having a live stream on all your social media platforms, and having two microphones, not one,
00:32:35.100 too. And sitting down and saying, let's chat. Let's have a discussion about these issues.
00:32:40.420 Charlie did not die with a knife in his hand or a gun in his hand. It was a microphone that he was
00:32:45.120 holding to try to have a civil conversation. So that is an attack not just on Charlie. It's an
00:32:51.100 attack on everything that we believe. It's an attack on our society itself. And I would argue
00:32:58.660 that an attack on a society itself like that, being so horrific, that requires the ultimate
00:33:04.620 punishment as not just a corrective, but a deterrent.
00:33:11.860 Correct. And do you think that the authorities in the United States are going after these
00:33:18.400 organizations enough?
00:33:19.800 I'd like to see more. I'd like to see a lot more.
00:33:22.100 Is that because the authorities in the United States have, we have a problem with our judiciary
00:33:28.860 in our police forces, which they have been infiltrated by progressive ideology.
00:33:36.500 You may have seen the case of Henry Novak.
00:33:38.840 Of course.
00:33:40.340 I spoke about it, isn't it?
00:33:41.480 Yes, of course.
00:33:42.120 But do you have that problem in the United States where your law enforcement authorities
00:33:51.680 are compromised?
00:33:52.980 So yes, with the judiciary, and that's thanks to Mr. Soros.
00:33:56.160 When I was talking about his excellent ROI, that's because, for example, I'm from the Philadelphia area, and we have a district attorney who's our chief prosecutor for Philadelphia, who is, for all intents and purposes, an employee of George Soros, the amount of money he's taken from him.
00:34:13.020 And so, you know, someone commits a murder and they get, you know, let back out on the street almost or they find some way to make it.
00:34:20.860 And he's actually been so bad. He's actually been such a bad prosecutor.
00:34:25.680 And Philadelphia is the largest city in my state of Pennsylvania that the Democrat Supreme Court of Pennsylvania came down and said that every decision out of his office,
00:34:36.960 They just put a sanction on him that every decision out of his office now has to be reviewed by the statewide attorney general.
00:34:43.700 Every decision.
00:34:44.780 Because he's just been lying, and he's found to be lying by his own party.
00:34:48.540 This is how radical he is.
00:34:50.100 Wow.
00:34:50.380 And, unfortunately, we have a Republican attorney general in the state of Pennsylvania right now.
00:34:56.120 It's a bit of a split government, so it's a complicated story.
00:34:59.940 But he's a very good attorney general.
00:35:02.380 And and so we have that problem, certainly at the judiciary level, not so much at the police force level and at the state and city level, perhaps a bit at the federal with the FBI, these types of things.
00:35:15.760 But that's that is being fixed with the new leadership there. And because we do we have that deep state more at the federal level.
00:35:22.520 But yes, certainly in the judiciary. Actually, you know, the president, you know, mentioned something about this recently when I saw him where he was saying that, you know, the New York judges seem to be wanting to allow Lomiti Maggioni to get away with literal murder, to just get away with it.
00:35:41.260 And obviously we know that the president has went up against the very same system himself when he was arrested, indicted.
00:35:49.820 And so it's a fight for sure.
00:35:53.580 And I think that anything and everything that can be done, specifically, I think on the financial level,
00:36:01.560 there's so much that can be done to defund these organizations, to pull that money from them.
00:36:05.900 Because if that Soros money or whatever it is, is getting down or there's or there are social media or, you know, these, you know, e-money systems that are being used to fund organizations or they, you know, they fund them themselves.
00:36:20.560 Well, then you go to the organization and say, you know, you will be fine.
00:36:24.120 You will be shut down if you if you are found to be complicit in this.
00:36:27.780 The same way you would do if it was a transnational narcotics gang or funding radical terrorist Islam or, you know, something like this.
00:36:36.700 We have all the tools, but it needs to be fought.
00:36:39.780 Like when we fought ISIS, it was not just a military response, an intelligence response, a financial response.
00:36:47.220 It was a whole of government.
00:36:48.760 It was every single way that you could do that.
00:36:51.920 And so what I've pitched publicly and privately is for a joint task force to be set up at the national level, then to work with each area, target key areas where this activity is going on, Minneapolis, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, wherever it is, Salt Lake City, and just throw the book at them, throw everything we have at this.
00:37:14.340 We need to completely throw the book.
00:37:16.320 Yeah.
00:37:16.840 Thank you so much, Jack, for being on the show.
00:37:19.840 It's been great to have you.
00:37:20.620 Thanks for coming to London.
00:37:21.920 Happy to be here.
00:37:22.940 It's an honor.
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00:38:31.840 So we're going to call this the Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour.
00:38:35.120 I can say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee if it wasn't for Jack Posobiec.
00:38:41.100 And that is, I'll be honest.
00:38:43.060 all right jack posobic we are here live in london uk i think as far as i know this is the first uh
00:38:53.420 in-person interview i've done in the uk and i was very honored to do this with you the right
00:38:58.180 honorable uh representative member of parliament um jacob reese maus thank you so much thank you
00:39:04.180 so much for uh joining me to hear today it's a pleasure i'm very pleased to be at the cpac
00:39:08.380 conference. Tell us about why is it important for CPAC to be here in England at this time?
00:39:15.740 Well, I think it's always a battle of ideas. All politics is ultimately a battle of ideas.
00:39:21.160 And the right needs to be putting its ideas forward. We suffered a huge defeat two years ago,
00:39:26.220 and it seemed as if we were out for the count, but we're not. We've got lots of thoughts about
00:39:30.500 how the country can be better governed, how you can make a success of the economy, but also
00:39:35.600 of the nation-state with secure borders and better defense.
00:39:39.700 And you need people to be thinking about that,
00:39:42.060 to prepare the policies for 2029, the next general election,
00:39:45.780 in the hope and expectation that we can win that.
00:39:48.740 And so this has been the role of CPAC in the United States,
00:39:52.740 sort of a convention within a convention sort of system
00:39:58.020 where it's not a political party event,
00:40:01.900 And yet, typically, you will see these predominantly in presidential years.
00:40:07.020 You'll see a lot of, or in the past, you would see a lot of the candidates who were vying for office would come to a CPAC and they would discuss the issues.
00:40:15.080 And so it would actually serve as an organizational tool for politics as well as the idea side.
00:40:20.740 And it struck me that here in the UK, it almost seems that that system hadn't really been developed yet.
00:40:27.620 Well, we have a very different system.
00:40:29.600 And therefore, in terms of developing people, because we've had a permanent civil service, nominally apolitical,
00:40:36.480 we haven't needed people in the same way as a new American president has needed people.
00:40:41.340 I wonder whether that's beginning to change, because our non-political civil service seems to be rather more political than you might have hoped for,
00:40:48.100 and that therefore an incoming Conservative government, one of the things it will need to do,
00:40:51.220 is to have more people in government who are overtly political, rather than allowing it to be done by a closed sect.
00:40:59.600 There are those of us who saw President Trump's first term and think that he ran into the exact same situation.
00:41:08.940 And that is why in his second term, he worked and the administration during the transitory period worked very closely with outside organizations, Heritage Foundation, Turning Point USA, many others to find those individuals and be able to staff the government.
00:41:27.960 because this was a huge deficiency, I believe,
00:41:32.120 and one that was observed and adapted and executed on a new plan
00:41:38.400 because where the first term, he brought in a lot of sort of the establishment.
00:41:43.800 I know you gave a speech on the blob just now,
00:41:45.980 and that's precisely the issue that we ran into.
00:41:48.300 The first term was enveloped by the blob, you could say,
00:41:53.400 and this term very much, beginning with Elon Musk, beginning with Doge,
00:41:57.080 it was that sort of turning the screws to the blob itself yes and that is a problem here and
00:42:05.820 i think there's a lot we can learn from how you did that in the united states how do you find
00:42:10.320 people because if you look at reform and i'm not a member of reform i'm a member of the conservative
00:42:15.540 party it finds it difficult to select good candidates for parliamentary elections and for
00:42:20.940 council elections and it gets into trouble because they've said or done foolish things
00:42:25.340 So if you go too much for outsiders, you may get people who are damaging to your reputation.
00:42:31.480 On the other hand, if you go for the establishment candidate, you don't change anything because they all remain the same.
00:42:36.240 So you need to be doing a lot of detailed work on who you need and what they can do and what they can contribute
00:42:42.620 and to try and find people who are able to make that contribution.
00:42:46.680 And I think you've done that in a way that we can learn from for Trump too.
00:42:50.700 Well, and specifically when you talk about talent development and talent acquisition and talent discovery,
00:42:59.180 this is something that Turning Point USA and Charlie Kirk personally worked on very, very directly
00:43:05.800 because everyone knows that he went to the college campuses,
00:43:09.480 and of course everyone knows about the speeches and the debates that he would do,
00:43:13.480 But the real work, I believe, was always the chapters, establishing the chapters, finding new student leaders, finding the people who would be successful, and then working with them, seeing if they wanted to run for student body government, if they succeeded there, perhaps they would get hired by the national organization, and many of which have gone on into their own political careers.
00:43:36.460 There's one of, we have a congresswoman now out of Florida who started as a Turning Point contributor.
00:43:43.220 She's now a member of Congress.
00:43:44.680 And I know you're doing a bit of that in England.
00:43:46.360 I went to speak to Turning Point at Oxford University in honor of the memory of Charlie Kirk.
00:43:51.680 That was why I went.
00:43:53.240 I thought that he was so important in defending free speech and putting that argument across that when Oxford set up its Turning Point group, I wanted to go and really pay respects.
00:44:05.640 and I was very pleased to see that that was happening
00:44:08.240 and that you are doing that development of people here.
00:44:10.700 Well, and I can tell you on a personal level
00:44:12.440 that Charlie was so excited to come to speak at Oxford.
00:44:16.220 He thought it was just the trip of a lifetime
00:44:20.360 and of course we thought it would be the first of many, many trips to Oxford
00:44:23.980 but I'll never forget what he said
00:44:26.320 and talked about how impressed he was
00:44:29.040 and how much respect he had for the English tradition,
00:44:31.960 for the Enlightenment thinkers,
00:44:32.980 for really the system of civil liberties and civil thought that come out of England.
00:44:39.280 And I'd never heard him talk about it that much before,
00:44:41.800 but I always remembered that, and he still does to this day,
00:44:44.840 in his office he has the portrait of Winston Churchill.
00:44:48.000 Okay.
00:44:48.840 Yes, yes.
00:44:50.040 Well, I mean, America is helping us protect our liberties,
00:44:54.120 which we've been rather careless about.
00:44:56.860 We've taken them, say, for granted,
00:44:58.220 that we don't think it's necessary to protect them.
00:44:59.920 And then you suddenly find people being arrested for praying outside an abortion clinic or whatever it is, silently praying, for thought crimes, people being arrested at airports for tweets who are comedians.
00:45:11.840 We are allowing freedom of speech to come under threat, not because anyone really wants to do it, but just out of carelessness because we're so used to it.
00:45:21.920 And America is, I think, helping us remember how important freedom of speech is.
00:45:26.320 And unfortunately, and I don't want to dwell on it too much, in the United States, we've seen the rise of political violence, assassination attempts on President Trump, murder of Charlie Kirk.
00:45:39.440 I've just come from the courtroom where the hearings are now getting underway.
00:45:45.080 And I come to the UK and suddenly I see all these headlines about this Anne Whittacombe.
00:45:50.860 And I understand there's still an investigation underway.
00:45:53.760 But I hope and pray that the specter of that type of political violence does not come to the UK and does not spread here.
00:46:01.660 Well, likewise, I obviously hope that.
00:46:04.000 I think we're lucky in that there are very few guns in this country.
00:46:09.000 It's not an attack on the Second Amendment.
00:46:11.040 If I were American, I would be in favour of maintaining the right to bear arms
00:46:14.620 because you've got so many already,
00:46:16.900 and if you took it away from good people, you would only leave them with bad people.
00:46:20.440 In this country, we have very few guns, and it's quite sensible to keep it that way.
00:46:24.720 So I think, once again, I think both our systems do things differently,
00:46:27.820 but both come to the right answer.
00:46:31.080 That is a safeguard,
00:46:33.160 but we've seen now three politicians being killed within ten years.
00:46:38.080 by apparently random people it was somehow different when it was the ira because you knew
00:46:43.600 where the threat was you knew who was threatened and you could give protection to the prime minister
00:46:49.820 the home secretary the northern island secretary there's a small number of people who needed
00:46:54.540 protection this throws it out to a much larger number of people it's very difficult to provide
00:47:00.380 protection for all of them and then there's the question which will be discovered by the courts
00:47:07.020 of the motivation behind the murder of Anne Whittacombe,
00:47:10.180 which will add further, depending on what that is, to people's concern.
00:47:14.120 And, in fact, that is actually the issue at play,
00:47:17.540 even in Charlie's case right now,
00:47:20.200 where his lawyers are trying to argue
00:47:22.060 that there was no religious motivation or anti-religious motivation,
00:47:25.760 even though we see text messages and postings,
00:47:29.440 and that there's no political motivation,
00:47:30.960 even though we see etchings and all the rest.
00:47:34.160 And simply to say, I hope and pray that England is able, and the UK at large, is able to face these issues head on, doesn't have any of the political violence that we have, and that all of these issues, it comes back to that freedom of speech, and I think that that's something that we should always share.
00:47:55.640 I completely agree. In England, freedom of speech is absolute in Parliament in our Bill of Rights.
00:48:02.540 In your Bill of Rights, it's freedom of speech for everybody.
00:48:05.340 I think there's something to be said for your approach.
00:48:08.140 Well, it was written by a bunch of British folks. 0.97
00:48:10.760 That's true.
00:48:11.800 Thank you very much.
00:48:12.400 Thank you so much.
00:48:13.060 Thank you.
00:48:25.640 We'll be right back.