Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - December 06, 2024


Daniel Penny Verdict Watch - Social Justice on Trial


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Jury deadlocked on the first charge in the case of former Marine Daniel Peaden, who is on trial for the murder of health insurance CEO Brian Thompson. Will he be acquitted? President Trump speaks on the matter and calls for a thorough investigation.

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00:01:47.340 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:01:50.440 Christ is dead.
00:01:51.480 Manhunt for the suspect accused in the murder of health insurance CEO Brian Thompson is intensifying
00:01:57.840 tonight.
00:01:58.560 Investigators releasing new surveillance images of the accused gunman.
00:02:02.580 They say this photo was taken inside a hostel on the Upper West Side of Manhattan Wednesday
00:02:07.620 morning.
00:02:08.460 Police sources say investigators are running forensic tests on a water bottle, candy bar
00:02:13.680 wrapper, and a discarded cell phone that was found near the scene.
00:02:17.700 This Fox News alert, we are on verdict watch in the New York City criminal trial of Marine
00:02:23.600 veteran Daniel Penny.
00:02:24.860 The jury just sent a note to the judge.
00:02:28.400 They are deadlocked on the first count in this case.
00:02:32.480 This is manslaughter in the second degree.
00:02:34.200 Frankly, the president of the United States deserves a presumption that the people that
00:02:38.580 he nominates should be the ones who serve in those positions.
00:02:44.160 This is Donald Trump's agenda.
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00:03:06.380 So what I would recommend is that he continue to fight for his own reputation, that we get
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00:03:15.400 And I'm proud of what I fought for.
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00:03:51.800 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
00:03:56.260 Today is December 6th, 2024.
00:03:59.020 Anno Domini.
00:04:00.160 Folks, will Daniel Penny be acquitted?
00:04:03.280 We're looking right now at the situation in the courtroom in New York City, where today
00:04:09.460 is the fifth day of deliberations for the jury.
00:04:13.840 And we're told now, as of this very moment, that the jury is deadlocked.
00:04:20.520 Now, one thing that, and please take it with an absolute grain of salt, please take it with
00:04:25.280 an absolute grain of salt.
00:04:26.400 But I just had a report come in from a New York source saying that one thing they're hearing
00:04:35.580 is that there's a lot of jurors who want to find him not guilty.
00:04:43.260 And that, in fact, there's only about two holdouts that really are adamantly believing that Penny
00:04:50.680 should be found guilty, the rest of them saying, look, we think this is a self-defense
00:04:56.480 situation.
00:04:57.320 I certainly believe it's a self-defense situation.
00:05:00.560 I think the majority of the country believe it's a self-defense situation, a horrible situation.
00:05:05.920 It never should have happened.
00:05:07.560 But unfortunately, there was a situation where someone became violent, where someone became
00:05:14.200 a threat to others and themselves, by the way.
00:05:18.440 And Penny responded in the best way that he knew how, the best way that he knew how, and
00:05:24.420 he was trying to do the right thing.
00:05:26.840 And in our country, in our world, don't we want to live in a place, we want to live in
00:05:33.540 a place where when there is a situation like this, that someone would be able to step up
00:05:40.340 and do the right thing to help out, to help defend other strangers, people they don't
00:05:46.960 even know, people that they're not related to, people that they don't have connections
00:05:51.160 to in any way, but be willing to intervene to save them because it is the moral and social
00:05:58.820 right thing to do.
00:06:00.780 That's actual social justice, by the way.
00:06:04.680 No, I don't think that Neely, the assailant in this case, should have been killed.
00:06:13.880 I honestly hope that that's not something, I don't think that's something that anyone
00:06:18.780 ever intended.
00:06:19.820 I think it was just a horrible outcome of a horrible situation, but one in which Daniel
00:06:27.060 Penny did not play a role other than to attempt to protect the other people on that train.
00:06:36.800 And if a police officer were there, if they had had handcuffs, if they had had any other
00:06:41.360 implements, then I'm sure they would have been able to do them.
00:06:45.500 So let's pray right now for the folks out there.
00:06:49.400 I've got my rosary right here, like I always do.
00:06:51.920 So let's pray right now for Daniel Penny, let's pray for his safety, and let's pray that
00:06:58.640 justice, true justice, is done in that courtroom in New York City right now.
00:07:05.240 And so as it stands, as of this very moment, we do not know the outcome of this situation.
00:07:11.120 Stay tuned.
00:07:11.660 Eric Metaxas joins us next.
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00:07:33.640 Hi, Jack Persovic.
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00:09:22.900 So one of the guys who I'm following, Joseph Rucker, who's there reporting, GB reporting at rotonmail.com, is writing, here's where we're at.
00:09:36.240 He said this as of about 30 minutes ago.
00:09:38.780 The jury indicated they're determining if Penny reasonably acted in self-defense or defense of others.
00:09:45.740 If they agree that that's the case and they follow the judge's instructions, not guilty on both counts.
00:09:51.220 This is report.
00:09:52.480 So an acquittal is possible today.
00:09:55.420 And this is the report that we're getting out.
00:09:56.920 So folks know that I don't do the, you know, the hopium train, that I don't do the hopium kind of talk.
00:10:05.440 But this is an incredible report coming out of a case like this.
00:10:10.380 And look, this is a clear case of self-defense.
00:10:12.760 And just like Kyle Rittenhouse, it was on video.
00:10:15.660 Eric Metaxas joins us now.
00:10:18.940 Eric, I'd love to hear what is your view on the jury and these latest developments out of New York City?
00:10:26.340 Well, listen, I live in New York.
00:10:28.300 I'm not there right now, but I live there.
00:10:30.100 And I have to say the bottom line is whenever anything like this happens, it's tragic.
00:10:36.600 You don't want somebody to die.
00:10:38.360 But if you have ever been in a situation where you feel threatened, and I'm not speaking as a man, I'm not afraid.
00:10:46.100 But what if you're a woman with kids? 1.00
00:10:49.760 It's a horrifying situation.
00:10:51.640 You pray that some guy like this would leap in and do something about it.
00:10:56.860 And so it is tragic that it went this way.
00:11:01.280 But it's hard for me to believe that somebody who sticks his neck out to help other people is now going through this.
00:11:08.260 I mean, look, I'm old enough to remember, you know, the days of Bernie Getz, the subway vigilante.
00:11:14.080 And, you know, this stuff is never happening.
00:11:16.720 Yeah.
00:11:16.860 No, and this was a – it goes back to Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:11:24.620 It goes back to – again, the fact of the matter is we have this on film.
00:11:29.620 And that's another case where, you know, another aspect of the case, which I think bears understanding, this idea that we now live in a society where we have constant surveillance, not just from video cameras, but, you know, that are, you know, on the streets for police or from, you know, hotel security like that other – the assassination from a couple of days ago of this UnitedHealthcare CEO.
00:11:56.100 But instead, it's also surveillance from just people around us at all times.
00:12:01.200 We've got mine right here.
00:12:02.300 I've got my phone.
00:12:03.740 In fact, that's something that I'm, you know, quite known for.
00:12:06.920 That if I – I always tell people these days, it's not see something, say something anymore.
00:12:12.280 It's if you see something, film something.
00:12:14.700 And so in this instance, we do have, from a variety of angles, all of this footage of the incident, and you can tell from all of it that it doesn't appear to me in any way that Daniel Penny is trying to do any harm to this individual other than simply restrain him until police can arrive.
00:12:35.280 That's my take.
00:12:36.440 That's my take.
00:12:37.500 And by the grace of God, the jury will have common sense.
00:12:41.100 We'll see.
00:12:41.620 No, I think that's exactly right.
00:12:45.840 And, you know, Will, it's a huge question of where we're at in our society because we know that there have been these social justice narratives that have been pushed into this.
00:12:54.580 People who say that, oh, we need to make it about race and the fact that it's a white man and a black man.
00:12:59.920 But, Eric, you know, there's something – I'll put it this way, I guess.
00:13:03.940 There's something in the air.
00:13:04.880 There's something in the wind with the Trump victory just about one month ago.
00:13:09.980 I think today or I guess yesterday was the one-month mark of this sweeping victory in our nation.
00:13:15.500 But it's bigger than Trump because it's this idea that we're just done with wokeness.
00:13:21.460 We're done with critical race theory.
00:13:23.540 We're done with so many of these failed ideas.
00:13:26.180 And people just want to get back to living in a society where we base people on – where we judge people based on the things that they do, on their behaviors and their actions rather than their immutable characteristics.
00:13:39.320 I mean, listen, Jack, it's not too much to say that the madness we've been living through is demonic deception.
00:13:50.020 Now, there are a lot of people that they don't believe in that.
00:13:52.260 I believe in that, that there's demonic deception.
00:13:54.520 When you think what happened in Germany in the 1930s – I wrote a book about Dietrich Bonhoeffer.
00:14:00.620 A lot of people know there's a great film out right now about Dietrich Bonhoeffer.
00:14:05.240 I recommend everybody go see it like ASAP because it's not going to be in theaters very long.
00:14:10.020 But it tells the story of a nation's descent into madness.
00:14:14.440 And when you think about what happened, it's definitely – there's a demonic angle.
00:14:19.080 It's not – you can't explain it through psychology.
00:14:21.760 And for America to go down the path of lunacy where we are mutilating children – could anybody dream that in America we would ever go that far?
00:14:31.320 We're there now.
00:14:32.060 Doctors are profiting from mutilating children.
00:14:37.880 That's not to talk about the murder of the unborn.
00:14:41.300 We have to be honest and say this is evil.
00:14:44.640 There's a demonic element to this here.
00:14:47.560 So when you're talking about everybody seeing things through the lens of race, what is that if not at least sick?
00:14:54.760 But I would say it's demonic because most people that I know in New York, until Obama injected race, there was very little of that.
00:15:03.800 People just see other people.
00:15:05.800 I mean, to be perfectly honest with you, we got to that place in America where there was a lot of normalcy with regard to race.
00:15:13.620 Something has been injected.
00:15:14.780 You can see it as just Marxist lunacy, all of that stuff.
00:15:19.940 I mean, you talk about it.
00:15:21.320 But there is a component of evil.
00:15:24.440 To see people as different, to suddenly think like, oh, I'm going to be in trouble because I'm white as opposed to I'm going to get a fair shake in America.
00:15:32.420 I mean, we know that if people are in trouble because they're black, that you might not get a fair trial.
00:15:39.280 You're in trouble with a white jury.
00:15:40.440 We know that's wrong.
00:15:41.680 But the idea that that that would shift and some people would say, good, it's about time.
00:15:46.500 That is clearly not the American way. 0.77
00:15:49.780 It's not God's will for the nation.
00:15:51.440 So I do believe we are turning a page.
00:15:54.660 But I think ultimately it's a spiritual deception that somehow, by the grace of God, we're breaking free of what we've been going through.
00:16:04.500 But we need to fight.
00:16:05.620 And so you're one of the voices out there.
00:16:07.260 I'm grateful for you fighting.
00:16:09.240 And I do my best where I can as well, obviously.
00:16:12.840 Well, thank you.
00:16:13.480 And I appreciate that.
00:16:14.380 And we do have to fight.
00:16:15.200 And we do have to pray for peace.
00:16:16.540 We have to pray for sanity.
00:16:17.760 And, by the way, one of the ways to find sanity, of course, is by reading the classics.
00:16:24.980 And I understand that you have got a new book out after Bonhoeffer.
00:16:30.880 But, in fact, this is through Socrates in the City, called The Conversations on the Examined Life.
00:16:38.380 I wonder if you could tell us about that real quick.
00:16:40.540 Yeah.
00:16:41.240 Listen, this Tuesday, we are in Manhattan.
00:16:44.280 We're having our 25th anniversary Black Tie Gala celebrating Socrates in the City.
00:16:49.620 Socrates in the City started 25 years ago.
00:16:52.660 I thought, you know what?
00:16:54.240 If you are a person with conservative traditional values, if you're a Christian and you live in a place like New York City, most people at cocktail parties, they don't go there.
00:17:05.260 They don't talk about the big questions.
00:17:07.020 And I said, we need a forum in Manhattan called Socrates in the City because Socrates said the unexamined life is not worth living.
00:17:15.360 We need a forum where I can interview people, brilliant people, amazing people, about the big questions.
00:17:21.320 What are the big questions?
00:17:22.120 Does life have meaning?
00:17:23.000 Is there a God?
00:17:23.920 Can I know if there's a God?
00:17:25.160 Is science compatible with faith?
00:17:28.480 All the big questions that, you know, you're not supposed to talk about at sophisticated cocktail parties.
00:17:32.020 I said, we need to have a forum where that's what we talk about.
00:17:34.880 We do it with humor.
00:17:36.380 But at the same time, it's serious.
00:17:38.940 A lot of people's lives have been changed through Socrates in the City over the years.
00:17:42.440 I've had some of the greatest minds you can think of, amazing people in these conversations.
00:17:47.420 And people can watch them at Socratesinthecity.com.
00:17:50.760 Almost everything is available at Socratesinthecity.com.
00:17:54.320 But at some point, I said, we need to do a book where I take some of the best conversations and we edit them and we put them in book form because some people, you know, just like to read or would like to kind of, you know, in your spare time, just kind of open it up and dip in.
00:18:08.920 And so I picked eight of my favorite conversations over the years.
00:18:14.820 And, you know, one of them is with the great Dick Cavett.
00:18:17.280 He's become a friend talking about what's the price of fame?
00:18:19.680 Do you pay a price for becoming famous?
00:18:21.980 He's known some of the most famous people in the world.
00:18:24.780 So my conversation with him is there.
00:18:26.240 My conversation with Alice von Hildebrand, 91 years old.
00:18:30.260 She was the widow of the number one enemy of Hitler in Austria.
00:18:34.320 One of the great heroes, Dietrich von Hildebrand and his widow, 91 years old, had a conversation with me.
00:18:42.920 Unbelievable conversation.
00:18:43.960 One of the greatest conversations I've ever had.
00:18:45.420 I said, that's got to go in the book.
00:18:46.720 That's absolutely incredible.
00:18:48.380 Tell people again real quick where they can get the book and follow you.
00:18:51.980 They can get everything at ericmetaxas.com.
00:18:56.840 If you can spell my name, ericmetaxas.com.
00:18:59.460 And if you can't spell my name, socratesinthecity.com.
00:19:02.360 You can find everything there as well.
00:19:04.000 Thank you.
00:19:05.280 Perfect, Eric.
00:19:06.080 Always a pleasure.
00:19:06.760 I've got to keep you on for longer next time, my friend.
00:19:08.720 Folks, we'll be right back. 0.69
00:19:10.120 We're going back to New York City here in the very next segment of New York City.
00:19:17.840 Long hours.
00:19:18.580 I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:19:21.980 All right, Jack Posobiec.
00:19:23.360 We are back.
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00:19:26.020 Folks, I got to tell you, this Christmas, I know we're going into the Christmas season,
00:19:29.900 but folks, the world's on edge right now.
00:19:31.840 And this year, we've seen the media, and they've been stoking animosity to the point of violence,
00:19:36.400 like in Butler, Pennsylvania.
00:19:38.360 The weaponization of our legal system, look what's going on with Daniel Penny right now,
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00:20:57.060 All right, we've got Vish Burra, the president of Basilisk Strategies, joins us now.
00:21:01.980 Vish, I got a question for you.
00:21:03.480 You know, I'm looking at this great Tommy Tuberville tweet, and I was wondering if I
00:21:08.240 could get you to respond to it.
00:21:09.060 I'll just read it real quickly here.
00:21:10.380 He said, Trump went 7-0 in the battleground states.
00:21:14.580 The Senate GOP went 1-4 in those same battleground states, that one being Dave McCormick in my
00:21:21.440 state of Pennsylvania.
00:21:22.740 Trump won the popular vote.
00:21:24.700 The House GOP didn't win seats.
00:21:27.680 This election was a mandate for Donald Trump.
00:21:30.400 Give him the team he and the American people are asking for and stop pretending this is
00:21:36.800 business as usual.
00:21:38.680 MAGA.
00:21:40.280 Vish, why is it that the people's president is having so much trouble getting senators like,
00:21:47.420 oh, I don't know, from places like, let's just pick two states off the top of a hat.
00:21:52.060 Iowa and South Carolina states that he resoundingly won, able to get his nominees across the finish
00:21:58.540 line.
00:22:00.400 It's real simple, Jack.
00:22:01.620 There is a power struggle going on right now in D.C., and it's a classic one that took
00:22:07.360 place even in 2016 when President Trump first got elected.
00:22:11.420 It's Mitch McConnell, Senator Thune, and all these people trying to show that they still
00:22:17.100 have power to be negotiated with in D.C. within the Senate.
00:22:21.320 The Senate represents the last vestige of never-Trump, anti-Trump establishment power.
00:22:29.960 And these people are trying to show that Trump can't do anything without them.
00:22:34.920 And these are the ways that they are going to do it by blowing out or trying to blow out
00:22:40.280 picks that are highly supported by the grassroots.
00:22:43.020 And people who voted for Trump want to see the change that he promised.
00:22:48.240 And President Trump is now trying to do that by making the picks that are not only approved
00:22:53.820 by him, but approved by the grassroots.
00:22:56.240 Let me tell you something about the Senate, Jack.
00:22:59.120 All right?
00:22:59.460 These people think that they are not accountable to the people.
00:23:04.320 These people think that they are the lifers.
00:23:08.720 Presidents come and go.
00:23:10.300 I'm a senator.
00:23:11.020 I'm here to stay.
00:23:12.040 That guy's here for four.
00:23:13.460 I'm here for six.
00:23:14.540 This is the mentality that that is carrying on through the Senate.
00:23:20.060 And particularly, when we look at somebody like Joni Ernst, Joni Ernst, who, quite frankly,
00:23:26.800 I don't know why she has a huge say in how this process goes, outside of possibly Boeing
00:23:34.580 and Lockheed Martin being one of her biggest donors.
00:23:37.820 The fact of the matter is that Senator Ernst needs to understand, I was there in Iowa, on
00:23:43.140 the ground during the caucuses with those folks in those sub-zero temperatures.
00:23:49.100 These people were voting for Trump, coming out for Trump in his agenda.
00:23:52.800 And I don't think those people will be very happy to know that Senator Ernst is holding
00:23:57.760 up one of his biggest, most important, consequential picks.
00:24:02.400 And also, she thinks that these people are also dumb by going and starting this Senate
00:24:08.600 Doge caucus, you know, to chairing it.
00:24:11.700 That is a misdirection play.
00:24:13.600 That is her trying to suck up to Elon so he doesn't primary her in Iowa and spend the 1.00
00:24:20.000 money with the America PAC coming after her for standing against President Trump's agenda 0.98
00:24:25.380 here.
00:24:26.640 That's very interesting because I'm looking at the Des Moines Register, as I do from time
00:24:32.200 to time.
00:24:32.760 I don't really read their articles, though I hear they're in need of a new pollster out
00:24:37.780 there because they had issues with their last one.
00:24:41.660 And it says, when is Iowa's next election?
00:24:44.680 And would you look at that?
00:24:46.180 Kim Reynolds and Joni Ernst are next to face re-election.
00:24:50.540 That'll be in 2026.
00:24:52.040 Wait, are you telling me that Joni Ernst is actually in cycle right now in the great state
00:24:58.840 of Iowa?
00:24:59.660 Does that mean that there are people potentially looking at primary challenges of Joni Ernst
00:25:07.400 this very moment because she only has two years left?
00:25:11.620 That means if someone were to come up and run against her in the state of Iowa, they'd
00:25:17.100 be able to do so right now and have potentially have the backing of the richest man in the world,
00:25:22.500 America PAC, which is incredibly well funded.
00:25:25.160 And by the way, it's one of the most effective ground games anywhere in politics outside of
00:25:31.820 turning point action.
00:25:33.060 I mean, I really hope that Joni Ernst understands all of these things.
00:25:39.540 But when it really comes down to it, Vish, she could be the hero here.
00:25:42.780 She could come down and say, look, I had serious misgivings about this.
00:25:46.960 I remember the Susan Collins speech.
00:25:49.240 Remember the Susan Collins speech with Kavanaugh when she came out and said, look, I've looked
00:25:53.760 into this thing.
00:25:54.460 I had my concerns, but I've weighed and measured and I'm going to cast my vote.
00:25:58.340 Wouldn't you love for Joni Ernst to do the right thing instead of make a very, very foolish
00:26:04.820 decision that would potentially have a huge impact on her career, Vish?
00:26:09.220 Listen, Jack, this is really, this is really simple for Joni Ernst, okay?
00:26:15.140 She can either go big time in prime time or it's primary time for her.
00:26:21.080 That's real, that's it.
00:26:22.260 That's real simple.
00:26:23.100 The attorney general, I believe, of Iowa already came out saying that, that Trump's support
00:26:28.460 for a headset and, and a headset should be confirmed.
00:26:32.780 There's already people smelling blood in the water.
00:26:35.000 So the fact of the matter is you do not want Elon Musk, the richest man in the world with
00:26:41.140 a pack that has one of the most sophisticated ground games in the world paired with the
00:26:47.480 almighty power of X and the air game that that provides.
00:26:51.400 She does not want that smoke.
00:26:53.600 I guarantee it.
00:26:54.680 She needs to take this moment where she's in the spotlight and let everybody know that,
00:27:00.320 hey, I looked into it.
00:27:01.940 I spoke to my people.
00:27:03.160 I went back to Iowa and they told me what the deal is.
00:27:06.660 And the deal is the art of the deal, Donald Trump's way.
00:27:10.040 That's where we're going.
00:27:11.100 And that means that we need to get Hegseth confirmed.
00:27:14.120 And I, and I, as Joni Ernst, am going to do everything in my power to help him get confirmed
00:27:21.120 through the Senate.
00:27:21.900 I'll Sherpa him myself.
00:27:23.520 She needs to go and make those kinds of movements right now, because if she doesn't, everything 0.94
00:27:28.500 that she does will be seen as disingenuous and we will hold her accountable for that.
00:27:33.420 That's just the fact of the matter.
00:27:35.380 MAGA does not forget.
00:27:37.780 And we will not forget when, if we are betrayed in this matter.
00:27:42.000 MAGA never forgets. 0.61
00:27:44.260 MAGA holds the line.
00:27:46.520 MAGA stays frosty.
00:27:48.180 And look, I would love to live in the world, by the way, where Pete Hegseth becomes Secretary
00:27:54.240 of Defense and then Joni Ernst gets brought in.
00:27:57.420 Perhaps she can run an independent mission on issues like sexual harassment, sexual assault
00:28:04.120 that do go on within the military.
00:28:06.480 That's a huge place for reform. 0.83
00:28:08.800 I'd love to see Pete Hegseth work for her.
00:28:11.220 I know she's got a bill that she's been trying to push regarding the chain of command and set
00:28:15.620 up independent investigations for this.
00:28:18.120 And it's been something that's been a huge project of hers for a long time.
00:28:21.640 I'm certain, I'm absolutely certain that Pete Hegseth, working with her and working with
00:28:27.860 a court, President Trump would have to sign that legislation, would want to get that across
00:28:32.700 the finish line.
00:28:33.480 But, but I'm also certain of another eventuality that would happen should she decide to move
00:28:42.020 in a different direction.
00:28:44.260 And I would hate for that eventuality to have to come because, Vish, look, you've already
00:28:50.180 shown us that you can go out to Iowa and pound the pavement out there.
00:28:54.940 Donald Trump understands how to pound the pavement in Iowa.
00:28:58.280 I'll move to Iowa.
00:28:59.740 I'll go straight to Iowa.
00:29:00.980 And you know who I'm going to bring with me?
00:29:03.320 I'll bring Scott Pressler.
00:29:05.220 I'll bring Cliff Maloney.
00:29:06.940 I'll bring Charlie Kirk.
00:29:08.540 And I will bring Kevin Posobiec.
00:29:10.460 And we will bring Elon Musk along with us.
00:29:13.320 And I'd hate for that to have to happen because I'd much rather be doing other things with my
00:29:18.040 time.
00:29:18.760 I'd rather be working for the people of Iowa to make this country great again.
00:29:23.020 But if that has to happen, that has to happen.
00:29:25.400 The choice is Joni's.
00:29:27.240 That's right, Jack.
00:29:28.240 And that's just the way MAGA rolls.
00:29:29.800 If that means that we all have to move out to Iowa, you know, the way Scott Pressler lived
00:29:34.780 out of his car in Pennsylvania to help win Pennsylvania, these are the kinds of things
00:29:38.980 that we do.
00:29:39.620 I will sleep in caves for the movement.
00:29:41.820 I will sleep out in cornfields for the movement.
00:29:44.140 I don't care.
00:29:44.900 I don't need a nice place to rest.
00:29:47.560 I need a place that's going to give me the opportunity to get President Trump's agenda
00:29:53.500 done.
00:29:54.040 You know what it is?
00:29:54.980 Get rid of Joni Ernst.
00:29:56.360 That'll be the case.
00:29:58.520 You know what it is when it comes to this victory?
00:30:01.200 It's about a question of respect.
00:30:03.680 It's about respect for the victory.
00:30:06.220 Respect for the mandate of the people.
00:30:09.400 Respect for the choice of the people.
00:30:12.120 It really feels like, I don't know, it just feels like a lack of respect, wouldn't you say?
00:30:16.180 It's a total lack of respect.
00:30:18.960 And look, there's still some parts of denial that's going on here, Jack.
00:30:23.040 A lot of people just don't want to admit that they are done and there's a new time to rise.
00:30:28.500 It's literally, look, with the Senate, it's the SpongeBob meme.
00:30:32.220 How many times are we going to have to teach you this lesson, old man?
00:30:35.140 Right?
00:30:35.420 Like, this is what's going on.
00:30:36.820 We need these people to understand that their time is up and it's our time now.
00:30:41.840 This is the MAGA era.
00:30:43.260 This one, finally and definitively, it's over.
00:30:47.080 We are in the new era.
00:30:48.260 Get with the program.
00:30:50.220 It's one minute to go.
00:30:51.860 Speaking of the MAGA era, are there any events going on in New York anytime soon where people
00:30:56.680 can get a taste of the MAGA era?
00:30:59.460 Absolutely.
00:31:00.280 We got the New York Young Republican Club's 112th Annual Gala, Sunday, December 15th.
00:31:07.500 We have the pre-gala party as well on the 14th in Manhattan.
00:31:11.520 Make sure you sign up for that.
00:31:13.580 It's going to be big time and there's going to be some special guests.
00:31:16.620 So make sure you follow at NYYRC.
00:31:18.640 We only got a couple of tickets left, folks.
00:31:20.700 Buy them while you can.
00:31:21.820 It's going to be the hottest one.
00:31:23.520 NYYRC.
00:31:24.120 Go follow Vish Burra.
00:31:25.500 See you at the gala.
00:31:26.660 Kevin Posobiec just announced as a special guest this morning.
00:31:30.100 My goodness.
00:31:31.120 I get to see the great Kevin Posobiec.
00:31:33.720 I can't wait.
00:31:34.940 I will certainly be there with bells on it.
00:31:37.640 So will Tanya Tay up in New York City.
00:31:40.320 Stay tuned.
00:31:40.800 We'll be right back at Human Events.
00:31:45.140 Jack, where is Jack?
00:31:47.720 Where is Jack?
00:31:50.040 Where is he?
00:31:51.340 Jack, I want to see you.
00:31:54.960 Great job, Jack.
00:31:56.380 Thank you.
00:31:57.140 What a job you do.
00:31:58.580 You know, we have an incredible thing.
00:31:59.960 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad.
00:32:02.260 But we have guys.
00:32:03.700 And these are the guys who are forgetting Pulisic.
00:32:05.740 All right, Jack.
00:32:08.320 So we're back live here.
00:32:10.560 Human Events Daily, the Mar-a-Lago editions continue.
00:32:15.540 Very excited, by the way, as we are on the Daniel Penny Jury Watch to bring on Brett Pike,
00:32:24.240 the founder of Classical Learner Homeschool Company.
00:32:28.780 If you want to get interested in this, if you want to get involved in anything that Brett's
00:32:32.540 doing, by the way, check out ClassicalLearner.com slash Oso.
00:32:37.500 Brett, how are you, man?
00:32:40.160 Good.
00:32:40.600 How's it going, Jack?
00:32:41.280 Thanks for having me.
00:32:42.960 Yeah, it's going really well.
00:32:44.300 So tell folks who aren't familiar with your program.
00:32:48.360 I know that we've been promoting it here on the show for a couple of weeks now.
00:32:52.480 But, you know, just for folks who haven't heard anything about it coming in, we're,
00:32:56.540 you know, we have the Trump administration getting involved and we're putting it together.
00:33:00.140 You've got this incredible Secretary of Education coming in with Linda McMahon and so many others.
00:33:04.380 It really is a time where people are looking at new forms of education because I think
00:33:09.600 we realize that the current form is just totally broken.
00:33:14.700 Yeah, it's not just broken.
00:33:16.100 It's so broken that everyone's excited that there's talk of getting rid of the Department
00:33:20.560 of Education.
00:33:21.300 And if you look at academic performance in America, pre-1980 and after 1980, the inception
00:33:27.620 of the Department of Education, it has actually gone down.
00:33:32.760 And someone like Linda McMahon is in a prime position to do the things that everyone knows 1.00
00:33:38.920 needs to be done.
00:33:39.880 We all see that the CRT, the critical race theory, where they're basically training young 0.51
00:33:45.360 people to view the world through the lens of oppressed versus oppressor, right?
00:33:49.900 They're basically training young Marxists.
00:33:52.860 We have to get that out of our education system.
00:33:55.340 And you have the sexual education, which I think we all know, to anyone who is even a
00:34:02.720 little bit honest, knows it's completely inappropriate.
00:34:04.760 And these teachers have no business talking to our children about anything sexual, let alone 1.00
00:34:10.300 the type of degeneracy they're pushing on our kids.
00:34:13.660 But what I would like to say to you and your audience and America in general, that getting
00:34:20.180 rid of the Department of Education, rolling back CRT, getting rid of the sexual education,
00:34:25.000 that's only touches the surface of the things that have to be done.
00:34:28.820 In 2023, and I don't know how this went under the radar, Gavin Newsom signed a bill, Assembly
00:34:34.480 Bill 873 in California, which mandated that media literacy, as they call it, be taught
00:34:40.960 to not only high school students, but all the way down through kindergarten.
00:34:46.140 They're trying to get our kids from as young an age as possible.
00:34:50.460 And when they say media literacy, what they really mean is to teach our kids to outsource
00:34:55.560 their thinking to authority.
00:34:57.600 So what does that look like?
00:34:59.340 What is media literacy according to Gavin Newsom?
00:35:02.880 Well, what they mean is to teach children to look to reputable sources.
00:35:09.520 So if you read something in the New York Times, that's a reputable source.
00:35:14.000 Well, of course, that must be true.
00:35:16.280 If you read something in the New York Times and the Washington Post, well, now you have cross
00:35:22.020 references from reputable sources.
00:35:24.500 Well, of course, that's true.
00:35:25.940 And of course, the only thing they're really doing is training our children to outsource
00:35:31.060 their thinking to authority.
00:35:33.600 Now, with my homeschool program, Classical Learner, I run a homeschool company.
00:35:37.760 We also teach media literacy, and it looks completely different.
00:35:41.880 I write two fake newspapers.
00:35:43.720 The students read through the newspapers, and they scan it for logical fallacies.
00:35:48.700 Are there appeals to authority?
00:35:50.120 Are there appeals to emotion?
00:35:51.500 Are there straw man arguments?
00:35:53.660 They fill out a finding fallacy sheet, and then they evaluate each claim made by the newspapers.
00:36:01.160 And with each claim, they have to evaluate, did it come from a primary source, a secondary
00:36:05.440 source?
00:36:06.080 Then they have to get back to the source, evaluate the source for themselves.
00:36:10.560 I mean, this is what critical thinking really is.
00:36:12.660 This is what media literacy should be.
00:36:14.700 Can you find logical fallacies?
00:36:16.340 Can you get back to primary documents?
00:36:18.400 Do you know how to source information?
00:36:21.300 And then after our students source that information, I have them fill out discernment charts.
00:36:26.200 So it's basically allowing the students to view how information should be filtered through
00:36:31.000 their brain.
00:36:31.440 So you have, I know and how I know, I think I know and why I think that I heard and where
00:36:37.080 I can look.
00:36:38.080 And this is really the dichotomy we're seeing with people who are still sending their children
00:36:42.680 to the public school system in which there is a concerted effort, not just in California,
00:36:47.200 but they passed a similar bill in New York and I think 14 other states where they are trying
00:36:52.320 to train our children from as young an age as possible to outsource their thinking to
00:36:57.760 authority so that the children could be turned into cogs in the machine for pushing the agenda
00:37:03.300 that those in power want to push.
00:37:06.100 But smart parents are fighting back.
00:37:08.180 They're teaching their own version of media literacy, which is about logical fallacies,
00:37:12.320 getting back to primary documents, evaluating sources, and actually filtering information and
00:37:17.400 learning to discern truth from fiction.
00:37:20.200 And to me, I think this is probably as important an issue in America as anything else, because if
00:37:26.460 we allow the powers that be to hijack the minds of our children, and they're trying to,
00:37:33.180 then we can wake as many people up as we want today, but the next generation will be asleep.
00:37:38.440 And that's what we can't allow to happen.
00:37:41.340 Well, that's what it's about, right?
00:37:42.580 Because ultimately what you're talking about is training free thinkers, training people to
00:37:48.800 say, and it's just in the very first instance to say, well, you know, just because something is
00:37:55.700 written in the Associated Press, that doesn't mean it's necessarily true, or just because it's
00:38:00.680 written in NBC or CNN or ABC and CBS and all of these various things, it doesn't necessarily mean
00:38:07.860 it's true now.
00:38:08.400 What I think is interesting is it also doesn't necessarily mean those things are false.
00:38:13.960 That's the New York Times.
00:38:15.860 But, you know, when you see something there, you have to actually read between lines.
00:38:21.340 Media literacy, when it really comes down to it, is incredibly complex.
00:38:25.620 And so I applaud you for what you're doing in taking this on, in attempting to make this
00:38:31.300 skill that is taught at a young age.
00:38:34.300 And what was it that, you know, that made you want to really get classical learner focused
00:38:40.840 on, you know, kids?
00:38:42.940 Is it, is the, I guess the thinking that you've got to start doing this at an early age because
00:38:48.020 it's, it becomes harder as you get older?
00:38:52.420 When my wife got pregnant and I was going through my awakening and really starting to understand
00:38:58.220 how the world worked and this, you know, seven years ago, and I had this great fear that my
00:39:06.120 son would come up through a system that I knew was nonsense.
00:39:08.900 I had a degree in history, education, master's in special education.
00:39:12.580 I came through that system and I saw that almost everything they taught me was a lie, including
00:39:18.480 the history, right?
00:39:19.400 And you're a historian.
00:39:20.760 That's very concerning.
00:39:21.940 Like, how can you get a degree in history?
00:39:24.020 And the university system never even brought up the Congressional Church Committee and
00:39:28.480 Operation Mockingbird.
00:39:29.700 So I started writing books with my son in mind, and that was the first thing that I did.
00:39:34.700 And as an example, one of the books I wrote is Operation Mockingbird and the Church Committee.
00:39:39.140 And I wanted to create children's entertainment that would not only teach my son the history and
00:39:45.620 his rights and the things I wanted him to learn, but would actually familiarize him with how
00:39:51.260 people are manipulated.
00:39:52.480 So in the book, Operation Mockingbird, you have Red Rooster and he's a news rooster and
00:39:58.500 he thinks he's getting into, you know, a noble profession.
00:40:03.120 And he quickly finds out that his other roosters, Black Rooster, Blue Rooster, Green Rooster,
00:40:08.300 they're on the take.
00:40:09.680 And early in the book, you had these news reports of bears trespassing and bears stealing
00:40:16.200 a bike.
00:40:16.720 And then later in the book, the children, they go through this journey and they're shown that
00:40:21.940 same picture, that same moment in time, but not a close up.
00:40:25.780 They're shown the whole picture.
00:40:28.000 And when you see the whole picture, you notice, but he wasn't stealing a bike.
00:40:31.220 He was walking into a bicycle repair shop and he wasn't trespassing.
00:40:35.060 He was actually there fixing something.
00:40:37.380 He was a repair bear.
00:40:38.860 So we're actually showing children how the manipulations take place in a child-friendly
00:40:44.160 way so that they're not scared.
00:40:46.740 And when they're ready, they can look back and understand, oh, so this is what this book
00:40:52.360 was really about.
00:40:53.420 And this is how the manipulations take place.
00:40:55.720 I think that's really important.
00:41:00.400 And so understanding that that's the background that you're looking at this in, that that's
00:41:05.660 what you're focused on.
00:41:07.280 It's so important.
00:41:08.160 Tell people again where they can go and get this.
00:41:11.240 And by the way, folks, I've looked at classical learner.
00:41:15.140 This is really designed for kids.
00:41:17.060 I mean, it's this heavy stuff.
00:41:18.560 But the way you present it to the kids is very, it's very light.
00:41:23.680 It's fun.
00:41:24.740 It's entertaining.
00:41:25.800 You do an absolute great job.
00:41:27.240 Tell people what that site is again.
00:41:30.020 Yeah, my homeschooling stuff is classicallearner.com.
00:41:33.040 And with the books, you actually get a discount.
00:41:35.140 I was really happy to partner with Jack because I've appreciated the work you've done for many
00:41:39.700 years now.
00:41:41.300 But classicallearner.com slash Poso, you get a discount on the books plus free shipping.
00:41:49.040 And it's a great present for your kids because it's the present that really gives them the
00:41:54.560 knowledge they need to have a good foundation in life.
00:41:58.320 Amen.
00:41:58.960 Thanks so much.
00:41:59.700 Classicallearner.com slash Poso.
00:42:01.300 Merry Christmas, by the way, Brad, to you and to your family.
00:42:12.520 Jack is a great guy.
00:42:14.120 He's written that fantastic book.
00:42:15.780 Everybody's talking about it.
00:42:16.960 Go get it.
00:42:17.500 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
00:42:22.040 And we're going to turn it around and make our country great to get to him.
00:42:25.340 Amen.
00:42:25.600 All right, Jack Poso, we're back live here.
00:42:31.600 Human events daily.
00:42:33.700 We remain on Daniel Penny.
00:42:37.140 The verdict watch.
00:42:38.980 I really want to know what's going on with Daniel Penny.
00:42:42.860 I want to know if it's true about these potential holdout jurors.
00:42:47.940 How many are there?
00:42:49.260 How many want to see him guilty?
00:42:52.340 Is it true that the majority view him as innocent and want to quit him because they view him as having it in self-defense?
00:43:02.680 So, of course, we're sticking with that.
00:43:04.800 We are on top of that as much as absolutely possible.
00:43:08.800 I'm just going to check back in with the reporter who was there, Joseph Rucker.
00:43:14.280 And, no, I'm not seeing anything new just yet.
00:43:20.200 But I will say, I'll just read you what he says, that the jury was asking the judge to elaborate on the reasonable person standard for the justification of self-defense, which would, of course, be a full acquittal.
00:43:33.580 The judge clarifies the difference between an objective or subjective standard.
00:43:38.320 He references People versus Getz, which created this test, that it was the case that Eric Votaxis referred to earlier of Bernie Getz, the subway vigilante.
00:43:48.700 The reasonable person, quote, knows what the defendant knew in that situation.
00:43:54.240 To be clear, the jury does not know that during the altercation, Neely had a warrant out from assaulting a woman on the subway because Daniel Penny would not have known.
00:44:05.240 So, does that make sense?
00:44:06.640 The judge also instructs that it has to satisfy both parts of a two-part test.
00:44:12.080 Number one, honestly helped, must have actually believed that Neely would use physical force.
00:44:19.160 And two, reasonable, that a reasonable person in the same circumstances, having the same information, would reach the same belief.
00:44:26.900 So, that's the latest, that's the absolute latest that I've seen anywhere on the Daniel Penny situation.
00:44:35.200 Now, I also saw during the break that there may have been some breaking news involving Syria and involving Bashar al-Assad.
00:44:49.620 But when it comes to these things, folks, what did I always say?
00:44:53.460 What do I always say?
00:44:55.280 Stay frosty.
00:44:57.540 Stay frosty.
00:44:59.260 And so, about two hours ago, there was a rumor that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his family had fled the country.
00:45:07.460 And this wasn't the first time that we heard this rumor because they said that about a week ago when the rebels, these Turkish-backed rebels that are being run by Turkish intelligence, according to reports, have been involved in this new offensive within Syria aimed at regime change.
00:45:26.400 And we heard a lot of rumors, and I kept telling people, stay frosty, because you're going to hear a lot of rumors, and you're going to hear a lot of people saying that, oh, someone's been assassinated, someone's been killed, but ultimately, they turn out to be just fine.
00:45:40.360 And by the same token, you're also hearing that the leader of the rebels had been killed.
00:45:44.260 So, you get this from both sides.
00:45:45.840 It's the fog of war.
00:45:46.840 That's what it's referred to.
00:45:47.780 I guess with Daniel Penny, you could call it the fog of crime.
00:45:51.260 Well, on Send Defender, or Send Defender on Twitter, posted a report saying, following earlier reports, that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his family had fled the country from possibly either Iran or the United Arab Emirates, Syrian state media is now claiming that Assad had just arrived in Tehran for a meeting with senior Iranian officials.
00:46:10.160 And about 25 minutes later, right, Syrian channels are now denying that Assad is in Tehran, stating that he is monitoring the situation from Damascus.
00:46:20.860 So, there you go, folks.
00:46:22.460 I mean, just another situation of, look, when you're in cases like this, when you're in situations like this, when you're trying to figure out the truth, when you're trying to suss out what exactly is going on, it's tough.
00:46:38.000 I get it.
00:46:38.820 It's tough.
00:46:39.760 You don't always know.
00:46:41.460 But I will say the one thing that you do need to know, the one thing that is so important is that you absolutely need, you absolutely need to figure out what's happening, when it happens, and you need to stay frosty.
00:47:02.640 You just have to stay frosty.
00:47:05.000 And staying frosty means the minute something crosses your desk, you say, oh, my gosh, oh, my gosh, you know, what was it yesterday?
00:47:11.500 There was an earthquake, and then people said, oh, my gosh, there's going to be a tsunami, and everyone's going to evacuate.
00:47:16.200 I say, well, no, guys, stay frosty.
00:47:18.780 Stay frosty because you never know.
00:47:22.120 Another example of that is Pete Exeth, okay?
00:47:25.740 It used to be a situation in this country that we didn't have the mainstream media response function we have in terms of social media.
00:47:36.860 So when mainstream media would drop a story, this happened in Watergate, and I asked Roger Stone about this once.
00:47:41.800 I said, why did Nixon resign during Watergate if none of it was true?
00:47:44.560 Why didn't he push back?
00:47:45.780 And Roger responded.
00:47:46.980 He said, look, because you guys didn't exist back then.
00:47:50.360 That independent media didn't exist, social media didn't exist, where you can disintermediate the power of mainstream media.
00:47:57.440 So it used to be that a mainstream report, like, oh, the New Yorker, right?
00:48:01.700 So the New Yorker comes out and says, oh, this guy's an absolute drunk, and NBC comes out and says, you know, he committed this, he committed that.
00:48:09.520 Well, nowadays, we have the ability, through social media, through intermediation, and from some huge voices and huge names in social media, who can actually respond and get those messages out directly to people.
00:48:25.560 That is why we've seen corporate media, legacy media, the regime, and so many of these, the blob as entities, as Mike Benz calls it.
00:48:35.080 We did an entire show on blobology yesterday here to explain the reason behind all of it is that they don't like the political outcomes that are going on, and that's why they're trying to censor you.
00:48:47.620 That's why they're trying to shut you down.
00:48:49.360 That's why they don't want Elon Musk buying X, and that's why Elon Musk purchasing X has been the single greatest decision in terms of freedom in the last, easily, in the last five, ten years.
00:49:02.920 And so, and it's very clear to me that President Trump's victory would not have happened without for that, because that gave people the ability to share the truth until the truth scale.
00:49:15.920 And just from, on a personal note, from a, I guess, a programming note, I just wanted to say thank you to the audience, and thank you to the crew, the absolutely top-notch crew that we have here on the show on Human Events Daily.
00:49:31.620 Today is our 900th episode, and, you know, if you had told me three years ago that we would be doing 900 episodes when we started episode one of this thing,
00:49:44.380 I don't know that I would have believed you.
00:49:47.000 I said, are you kidding?
00:49:47.880 I have no idea.
00:49:49.960 So just really, from the bottom of my heart, myself, Tanya Tay, on behalf of them, the boys, the family, thank you, and God bless.
00:49:57.500 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission.
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