Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - DEFENSE RESTS AS COHEN THE RAT GETS CAUGHT IN HIS OWN TRAP

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00:00:22.960 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:36.400 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:43.080 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:46.040 Deliver us from evil.

00:00:47.500 It's clear. Do all it can to ensure civilian protection.

00:00:51.980 What's happening is not genocide. We reject that.

00:00:56.900 The president also condemning the International Criminal Court after prosecutors announced

00:01:02.100 they're seeking the arrest of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel's defense minister

00:01:07.000 on allegations of war crimes in Gaza.

00:01:10.120 When the cameras went back on in the overflow room, the face that Bob Costello was giving

00:01:15.040 was a markedly different one. It was like a combination of embarrassed and angry.

00:01:20.240 And then Mershon, by contrast, leaning back in his seat, looking at Costello like this,

00:01:25.820 knowing I have regained control over my courtroom.

00:01:29.820 He is a threat to the rule of law in America. That's to me, that's what this election is about.

00:01:35.520 Not about policy differences. It's about what kind of country are we going to be.

00:01:39.300 If he has the ability, smarter than he was last time, to use the power of the Department of Justice

00:01:45.160 and the FBI to target his enemies especially, the rule of law in America will change in a way

00:01:49.820 we haven't seen in our lifetime.

00:01:51.300 First thing he would do is he would express it in his first term as a wish.

00:01:55.160 I want people to go after so-and-so. 0.99

00:01:57.160 I want people to go after Andrew McCabe, the former deputy director of the FBI.

00:02:01.540 In his second term, he would go a step further, I'm highly confident,

00:02:04.740 and say, I want him criminally investigated. And he would have, he was close to the bottom

00:02:09.500 of the barrel in his appointees last time. He'll be at the very bottom.

00:02:12.720 And those are the people who carry out that order.

00:02:15.160 Do they not see that this guy is promising? He's promising to be an authoritarian.

00:02:21.820 He's talking about, you know, getting elected again after 2024.

00:02:27.280 I just, it's like, we know who Trump is. This isn't about Trump.

00:02:32.920 This isn't about Trump. This is about those people who are deciding

00:02:37.420 instead of choosing democracy, American democracy, they're going to choose democracy.

00:02:47.320 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.

00:02:52.420 We are live from Washington, D.C. My name is Jack Posobiec, and today is May 21st, 2024.

00:03:00.860 Anno, Domini. It's my father's birthday. Happy birthday, Dad.

00:03:05.600 You know, I just saw that clip from James Comey there saying,

00:03:10.700 Donald Trump will fundamentally change the rule of law in this country.

00:03:13.960 I pray to God that he does because we need to restore the rule of law in this country.

00:03:20.960 The great Andrew Giuliani joins us now. Andrew, your Twitter feed, complete fire.

00:03:25.500 Your coverage has been amazing this entire time.

00:03:27.560 Tell me, what are the latest updates for us? Where are we with this case?

00:03:32.780 Sure, Jack. I just want to make one more comment on Comey there, by the way.

00:03:36.340 He said in that MSNBC clip that he wants to use the Department of Justice against his enemies.

00:03:43.280 Can I remind all your viewers out there who one of the assistant district attorneys is?

00:03:47.700 There's a guy named Matthew Colangelo. You know who Matthew Colangelo is?

00:03:52.040 He was the number three guy in the Biden Justice Department.

00:03:55.680 And he decided to take a demotion, unprecedented in United States legal history,

00:04:00.640 to go and become a district attorney, an assistant district attorney here in Manhattan,

00:04:06.240 so that way he could try. Who? Joe Biden's top opponent, Donald J. Trump.

00:04:11.760 And it's so obvious. It's so obvious what's on it.

00:04:18.040 No. To restore the rule of law, it's very simple.

00:04:22.140 There needs to be reciprocity against the people that have committed these treasonous acts,

00:04:28.100 who have committed this violation of the civil rights of every American,

00:04:32.300 to have an uninterfered with or a fair election, just to have a fair and regular election.

00:04:37.480 But no, we can't have that because of and the same way that they interfered with the first administration of Donald Trump.

00:04:45.600 Some of us would say that maybe that constitutionally would say that that term doesn't even count

00:04:50.440 because of the interference by the Department of Justice.

00:04:53.020 Just throwing that out there. Just throwing it out there.

00:04:55.360 FDR had four terms after all.

00:04:57.600 But, Andrew, give us the latest. Give us the latest from the court.

00:05:00.520 We're going to blow this break, by the way, folks.

00:05:02.500 So I appreciate Real America's Voice for letting us do that because this is so important.

00:05:06.520 And I know we only have you for so much time.

00:05:09.000 Yeah, well, Jack, look, I think one of the biggest things to come out of today happened right as the defense arrested their case.

00:05:15.760 They caught Michael Cohen in another perjury trap.

00:05:19.680 Let me explain.

00:05:20.860 So earlier yesterday, I should say, going back to last week,

00:05:25.800 Michael Cohen characterized the relationship between him and Costello just as a legal advisor who was basically pursuing Cohen.

00:05:36.320 Costello was pursuing Cohen for Cohen's business.

00:05:41.560 He said that on the stand time and time again.

00:05:44.400 Yesterday, the assistant district attorneys, the Soros-funded district attorney's office, asked Costello about an email that Costello's son sent to Costello saying,

00:05:56.760 so proud to have you on the team.

00:05:59.720 And what they were characterizing it as was that Costello was basically seeking the fame of representing Cohen,

00:06:07.300 who was at the time the personal attorney to the president of the United States, saying that Costello had nefarious reasons for actually doing that.

00:06:15.340 What Emile Beauvais, President Trump's defense attorney, actually exposed at the very, very end of his questioning was that that was not an original comment from Costello's son.

00:06:27.000 That was in quotes.

00:06:28.820 And who were they quoting?

00:06:30.660 Michael Cohen.

00:06:32.160 Again, connecting the dots.

00:06:33.980 Michael Cohen says, I'm so happy to have you on the team.

00:06:37.040 It's an honor to have you on the team.

00:06:38.720 And what did Michael Cohen say just a few short days ago after he swore his hand on the Bible there, the other two, the state of New York, that Costello was never his lawyer?

00:06:51.240 Again, such an honor to have you on the team saying he was never his lawyer.

00:06:56.280 Cohen perjured himself again at the very, very end of the defense's case.

00:07:01.160 And the defense rested.

00:07:02.080 And, Jack, I got to tell you, I can't imagine a witness that would be worse that I've ever seen in my life than Michael Cohen. 0.82

00:07:10.620 Michael Cohen is not just a serial liar.

00:07:12.560 He's not just a purger to the U.S. Congress. 0.97

00:07:14.640 He's not just a convicted felon.

00:07:16.360 But he just almost doesn't know how to stop lying.

00:07:19.340 And you can see that.

00:07:20.700 And Todd Blanche did a great job of laying that out for the jury.

00:07:24.420 To me, Jack, it's unconscionable, unconscionable that the judge allows this to go to a jury.

00:07:31.340 But, again, we're talking about a judge whose daughter is profiting for her company the tune of $93 million.

00:07:39.120 So, while no biased, no unbiased judge would let this go to the jury, I've got a bridge over here called the-

00:07:48.600 Andrew, Andrew, the president, where I'm being told that President Trump is coming out.

00:07:53.700 He's making a statement right now.

00:07:54.640 We're going to go to that live.

00:07:55.460 The case was put on.

00:07:57.700 There is no crime.

00:07:58.860 In fact, I just got almost every review that's been done of the case so far.

00:08:03.660 And as they say, there is no crime that should have never been brought.

00:08:07.860 It should be dismissed before you even have a verdict.

00:08:11.540 But we have a judge that's extremely, let's say, complicated.

00:08:18.660 But let's also say conflicted.

00:08:20.940 He's complicated and conflicted.

00:08:23.720 And it's very strange situation.

00:08:27.140 Nobody's ever seen any quite like it.

00:08:28.860 But we have a situation where we have no crime.

00:08:33.800 And this next couple of hours is very important because the judge can try and manufacture one where he goes from a misdemeanor, which doesn't exist because of the statute of limitations.

00:08:45.580 It doesn't exist, absolutely.

00:08:47.700 And they try to bring it into a felony. 0.94

00:08:49.440 But you can't do it because they haven't been able to prove it.

00:08:52.580 And you see what's happened there with the court.

00:08:54.380 But remember, I'm gagged.

00:08:55.540 I'm not allowed to say what I'd like to really say.

00:08:58.520 You'd be very impressed.

00:09:00.400 But I'm gagged.

00:09:01.600 So why would I take the chance?

00:09:03.300 If we do want to defend our Constitution, so at some point, maybe I will take the chance.

00:09:08.140 It's a very serious situation when a Republican nominee for president, the Republican nominee, somebody that won easily and quickly in record time,

00:09:18.700 gets, number one, gagged, and number two is before a Democrat-appointed judge. 0.96

00:09:26.140 And you're playing with fire like this.

00:09:28.960 It's very sad.

00:09:30.420 But the good news is they've not proven a case.

00:09:35.060 There is no crime.

00:09:36.380 Now, you'll read all of these experts.

00:09:39.320 And you know the ones that have to go over their names again.

00:09:41.520 But all experts, legal scholars, talented people, very smart people.

00:09:47.400 And there is no crime.

00:09:50.020 So maybe they'll try and devise one right now.

00:09:52.320 The judge will help them out because the judge has been very helpful to the other side.

00:09:57.020 And that should never be.

00:09:58.480 That should never be in our country.

00:09:59.740 Now, on another note, Biden is releasing one million barrels of oil from the Northeast Reserve

00:10:07.080 in a bid to lower prices at the pump just before the election because he's unable to drill properly.

00:10:13.620 And so he's destroyed everything we had.

00:10:16.180 We were energy independent.

00:10:17.420 We were shortly going to be energy dominant.

00:10:19.260 And now he has to go into what's called the Strategic Reserves to give oil and gasoline essentially for cars

00:10:26.760 so they don't have to go up to $7, $8, $9 a barrel.

00:10:30.260 By the way, if he ever got in again, you would be paying more than $10 a barrel.

00:10:36.420 You better hope he doesn't get elected those that drive cars.

00:10:39.140 And, by the way, and everybody else in our country.

00:10:42.340 So this is a big story.

00:10:44.640 It just came out.

00:10:45.440 He's releasing one million barrels of oil and the Strategic Reserves.

00:10:52.020 He's been doing this to keep the prices down, but the prices are now higher than they've been in a long time.

00:10:58.280 They're very high.

00:10:59.580 And so he's trying to stop that because high gas leak prices are not good for elections if you're on his side of it.

00:11:06.560 But nothing he's done has been good for elections.

00:11:08.620 Everything he's done has been very bad for our country.

00:11:11.040 And the border, I don't know if you've seen, but the border, record numbers of people from prisons, from jails, from mental institutions, parrots,

00:11:22.920 record numbers of people are pouring into our country.

00:11:27.000 Numbers like we've never seen before are pouring in.

00:11:30.240 We have an incompetent president, and we have to win.

00:11:34.640 And as I've said, November 5th, the most important day in the history of our country.

00:11:39.820 Thank you very much, everybody.

00:11:41.000 Sir, why did you decide against testifying in your case?

00:11:45.020 Did you not want to take a stand?

00:11:47.280 Are you nervous cutting the picture?

00:11:48.560 All right, Andrew, I want to get your response there, take on what the president has said,

00:11:55.160 and also basically your read, I guess, on the fact that the jury does now have this case in their hands.

00:12:05.300 We know it's only been about an hour or so so far since they have begun deliberations, and we'll see.

00:12:11.380 We'll see if it's a quick jury.

00:12:13.440 I think that would be a quick conviction, but if it gets dragged out for a few more days,

00:12:17.720 I think that could really lead to potentially some different outcomes.

00:12:21.120 What's your take?

00:12:22.580 Well, Jack, a hard worker like yourself would think that actually they would start going in deliberations soon,

00:12:28.320 but what this judge has done is he's given them off for the rest of the week,

00:12:31.840 and summations actually won't happen until next Tuesday, at which point the jury will come back.

00:12:37.760 That's New York State taxpayer dollars at your work.

00:12:40.260 Yeah, you just have a certain-

00:12:41.420 I'm sorry, I'm not even familiar with that. 0.98

00:12:42.800 That's ridiculous. 0.58

00:12:44.360 They're taking- 0.91

00:12:45.160 They've rested their cases.

00:12:47.740 They're not-

00:12:48.380 They're taking time off as opposed to actually going into deliberations and deciding this case.

00:12:53.320 I'm sorry, we only have the fate of Western civilization hanging in the balance.

00:12:57.420 No big deal.

00:12:58.340 That's exactly right.

00:12:59.940 And look, they're trying to just make sure that Donald Trump, as he said before,

00:13:04.060 a gagged president right there, to use his terminology,

00:13:07.600 cannot get back on the campaign trail at the pace that he would choose to do that.

00:13:12.260 But I think it's brilliant what he does right there, Jack, when he starts talking about oil prices,

00:13:17.320 when he does actually start talking about campaign issues.

00:13:19.940 Because guess what?

00:13:21.020 If the Soros-funded district attorney is not going to allow him to go on the campaign trail,

00:13:25.620 he's going to bring the campaign trail to him.

00:13:27.760 And the Biden team is seeing just how much Trump is rising in the polls.

00:13:32.600 Because even those people, maybe they didn't vote for President Trump in 2020,

00:13:37.200 maybe they didn't love President Trump,

00:13:39.460 they're seeing just how slippery a slope this is.

00:13:42.980 If you start going after, as James Comey said, political opponents.

00:13:47.400 It's a very, very slippery slope in this country if you do that.

00:13:49.860 And that's exactly what the Soros district attorney,

00:13:53.020 in conjunction with the Biden Justice Department,

00:13:55.320 is doing to the 45th President of the United States

00:13:57.520 and the leading candidate to become the 47th President of the United States,

00:14:01.820 Donald J. Trump.

00:14:03.920 Andrew, while we have you, last question.

00:14:06.920 So juries got this very strange break,

00:14:11.340 as opposed to actually going to deliberations.

00:14:13.840 Here's my question, though.

00:14:14.840 You've been in the courtroom.

00:14:16.160 You've been sizing them up.

00:14:17.460 We know that while the content of the case takes place

00:14:22.880 between where the judge is, the witness box, the defense table, etc.,

00:14:27.800 the judges of the case are actually sitting over in the jury box.

00:14:33.440 We've had other, David Zier has been on and said that he thought

00:14:35.820 the jury was taking this very seriously.

00:14:38.020 What is your sense of how the jury is standing in this case?

00:14:42.520 Yeah, I think David's right.

00:14:43.900 They have very good poker face, to be perfectly honest, Jack.

00:14:46.320 I've been looking over there at some of the salacious testimony Stormy Daniels gave

00:14:50.220 when Cohen perjured himself the first time, not the second time,

00:14:53.960 with regards to the 96-second phone call.

00:14:56.740 It's very, very tough to get a read.

00:14:58.380 But I'll just point out here to everybody who's watching your show

00:15:02.600 and your incredible audience that you have worldwide,

00:15:06.000 everything the prosecution has presented,

00:15:08.660 all the documents, all the witnesses, it's all based off the word of Michael Cohen.

00:15:15.180 There's nothing that connects the president to, as the president said,

00:15:19.240 anything without Michael Cohen.

00:15:21.760 And they got Michael Cohen to perjure himself on the stand

00:15:24.380 just twice in the last couple of days.

00:15:26.760 So if you have an unbiased arbiter in there, in the jury,

00:15:31.440 there's no way that they can convict Donald Trump.

00:15:34.480 He must be acquitted in looking at this.

00:15:36.860 The only thing that scares me, Jack, is we're talking about Manhattan.

00:15:40.260 86% voted for Joe Biden.

00:15:42.500 79% voted for Alvin Bragg on a bail reform platform.

00:15:47.940 So that's the only thing that scares me in looking at all those.

00:15:50.620 But if they're unbiased, they acquit Donald Trump.

00:15:52.740 That's it.

00:15:54.400 Now, that being said, acquittal hung jury certainly also,

00:15:59.220 if they can't get to that 12 unanimous consent for a guilty verdict.

00:16:05.960 That said, even if those goes to a guilty verdict,

00:16:09.080 we've seen other high-profile cases overturned in this very same circuit.

00:16:14.080 We've seen multiple times where cases, including high-profile individuals,

00:16:18.460 Harvey Weinstein's case was just overturned in this circuit.

00:16:20.880 So is there a possibility that you can see, based on errors made in the case,

00:16:26.740 particularly the conduct of the judge, that this could be overturned?

00:16:31.320 Yeah, I think so.

00:16:32.580 And I think the Trump defense team has had that as a contingency plan the whole way.

00:16:36.940 You can see in some of the motions that they end up presenting to the judge

00:16:40.620 to get on the record before the jury ends up getting there.

00:16:43.920 So that way, in case you have a biased jury that has already predetermined Donald Trump's guilt,

00:16:50.360 even though there's been no crime that's been actually presented,

00:16:53.680 that the Trump team has the opportunity to go and file for a guilt.

00:16:57.860 I think it's very strong, Jack, to be perfectly honest.

00:17:00.000 Well, this is absolutely incredible because you have a situation here where we know that this is a case 0.71

00:17:10.800 that should have been dropped, that this is a case that, at this point, is completely ridiculous.

00:17:16.320 And this judge, he seems determined to push it forward at any cost,

00:17:21.320 even knowing, knowing that he faces the risk.

00:17:26.200 And I hate to say, I hate to be the guy to throw out there that in New York City,

00:17:31.900 a judge may have been given some kind of offer to keep a case going forward.

00:17:37.280 But it's very, I will put it this way, it beggars belief that both Donald Trump and Steve Bannon

00:17:45.280 would have the same judge randomly selected.

00:17:47.800 Because, bear in mind, folks, this is the same judge, Womershawn, that Steve Bannon has to go up against

00:17:53.280 because Letitia James has charged him again in this We Build the Wall situation

00:17:58.620 that he received a pardon for at the federal level.

00:18:01.100 Andrew, it's just kind of funny how that works.

00:18:02.920 You get the same exact judge as Donald Trump, even though it's random selection.

00:18:07.140 Yeah, it's like the judge in the D.C. courts, Barrett, right?

00:18:09.940 Not Amy Comey Barrett, but Barrett in the D.C. courts. 1.00

00:18:12.300 Oh, we love her. I love her so much.

00:18:14.460 I've been in court with her many times.

00:18:16.200 Well, she doesn't love you, Jack, and she sure as heck doesn't love me.

00:18:20.120 So I think that's a really good example right there of somebody who basically has,

00:18:26.940 look, just lay it out in terms of what Mershawn and his daughter, how his daughter makes a living.

00:18:33.460 His daughter is, we're not talking about even a $100,000 a year job.

00:18:37.620 Her company's made $93 million off the back of, get this, Adam Schiff, Kamala Harris,

00:18:44.180 Joe Biden, Cory Booker.

00:18:46.640 These are all people that have basically said Donald Trump is the devil in a certain kind of way.

00:18:51.200 So you know he comes into this case completely biased.

00:18:52.920 And they're making money off the case the same way that Michael Cohen is.

00:18:56.780 By the way, that's Amy Berman Jackson. 1.00

00:18:58.760 I just realized I caught myself Amy Berman Jackson, not Amy Coney Barrett from the Supreme Court.

00:19:03.720 Amy Berman Jackson, similar name.

00:19:05.900 But yes, Amy Berman Jackson is the one that we're speaking of.

00:19:09.100 Andrew Giuliani, minute left, where can people follow you and what should they be paying attention to

00:19:14.140 as we wait for justice in this case?

00:19:17.920 I guess enjoy your Memorial Day weekend.

00:19:20.520 It's a long week, I guess, for the judge and the jury here.

00:19:24.580 But at Andrew H. Giuliani, once we pick up again, I'll be live X-ing.

00:19:29.000 We'll be live truthing it all out there, Jack.

00:19:30.980 And look, they should look, obviously, at the summations.

00:19:35.400 I think the Trump team will give a very, very strong summation about Cohen perjuring himself.

00:19:41.780 Also, on top of that, the fact that there still is no underlying felony here that the prosecution has pointed out.

00:19:48.980 It's kind of amazing that we've still gotten to this point here where we're at summations

00:19:52.680 and there's still no underlying felony.

00:19:54.820 But that's what you could be looking forward to here, Jack.

00:19:56.960 That's what they say. Justice delayed is justice denied. Justice delayed is justice denied.

00:20:02.060 Thank you, Andrew Giuliani. God bless.

00:20:03.620 And seriously, just go follow him on Twitter.

00:20:05.720 One of the hottest X accounts out there right now.

00:20:08.520 Be right back with Will Chamberlain to dig into the guts of this case.

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00:21:57.160 Now, I want to get into some of the nuts and bolts of this case, the jury instructions,

00:22:01.960 the process, because as always is, folks, as it always is, the devil is in the details.

00:22:07.360 The devil is in the details.

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00:23:04.820 So it's a really unique and very good setup for you guys to be able to take action and

00:23:10.620 really get Congress to pay attention to what you're doing.

00:23:14.000 And that's incredible.

00:23:17.000 So people go, A3P Action, and they can check up this portal.

00:23:21.700 They can do everything.

00:23:22.540 Everyone knows Mike Davis is always out there leading the fight.

00:23:26.220 He's banging the drum.

00:23:27.220 He's the hammer.

00:23:28.220 This is how people can get involved in the very same fight.

00:23:31.900 Look, we talk about this in my book as well.

00:23:34.420 We say, in Unhumans, what is the best way to get back at the left or the regime or the

00:23:39.500 whatever word you want to use for it?

00:23:41.320 Will, one of my favorite words that we've brought up and introduced, and you've played

00:23:45.340 no small role in reintroducing this word as well to the lexicon, the word is reciprocity.

00:23:51.200 Will, why is reciprocity so important?

00:23:54.300 Because unilateral disarmament is a good way to lose and lose repeatedly, right?

00:23:58.620 Like, you know, this is something that, you know, you go to evolutionary biology and you

00:24:04.100 look at how, you know, birds behave.

00:24:06.280 You see this behavior.

00:24:07.160 They are willing to open with cooperation, but once their partner defects against them,

00:24:12.560 they start defecting too.

00:24:13.800 They don't allow themselves to be exploited.

00:24:16.480 And, you know, this phenomena replicates itself not just in, you know, evolutionary biology,

00:24:22.320 but in social dynamics, you name it.

00:24:24.600 You shouldn't let yourself get exploited.

00:24:26.560 And yet we have many conservatives who say you should always just turn the other cheek,

00:24:30.880 even when other people are behaving badly.

00:24:33.340 And particularly one of the things that always irritates me is when Republicans say, oh,

00:24:37.300 we shouldn't do this thing because it'll set a bad precedent.

00:24:39.940 And then they're surprised that Democrats do an unprecedented thing when they have power.

00:24:43.940 Like, no kidding.

00:24:45.020 You shouldn't worry about what precedent you're setting for Democrats because Democrats don't

00:24:48.440 care about precedent when they're deciding what to do.

00:24:51.400 Well, and as, as, and as, so, and, and in that same vein, Will, as we talk about Democrats

00:24:56.840 not caring about precedent.

00:24:58.820 So the Democrats, uh, about a year and change ago, decided to cross the Rubicon and indict

00:25:05.320 the former president of the United States, uh, and not just one, but four times.

00:25:10.480 And specifically the very first one, uh, was this case, which we are now seeing displayed

00:25:17.260 before us, which, and keep in mind, this, this, this is the, a trial.

00:25:22.060 And, and you understand this better than me, um, uh, Will is Georgetown law, everyone, but

00:25:26.260 you know, a trial is supposed to be as, as the general popular understanding of it is,

00:25:30.820 is that an investigation has been done.

00:25:34.040 A crime has been uncovered.

00:25:36.000 And this is supposed to be the presentation of that crime to the public.

00:25:41.660 This is the prosecution.

00:25:42.900 That is why the burden is on the prosecution, not on the defense, because the burden of proof

00:25:46.940 is on those who are presenting the crime before the public, the public represented by the

00:25:51.760 jury is then supposed to determine the guilt of the accused.

00:25:56.440 This, this is the idea.

00:25:57.640 So, Will, uh, we've crossed the Rubicon.

00:26:00.040 We've thrown precedent completely out the window on this one.

00:26:02.680 And I say, we, I certainly don't mean we, I mean the unhumans that are behind this process. 0.99

00:26:06.400 How, how have they done?

00:26:07.840 How has the presentation been?

00:26:09.280 Uh, this must be totally locked down if they were willing to, for the first time in American

00:26:13.860 history, indict a former president.

00:26:16.020 I mean, they must have had him pretty ironclad to rights.

00:26:19.460 Am I right?

00:26:20.080 I know this trial has not gone well for the Democrats late and, and to the point that

00:26:24.460 even if they somehow managed to nail a jury of 12 absolute Trump haters, and the guy's

00:26:29.020 going to get convicted, it's, it's going to be seen as illegitimate by the broader public.

00:26:33.140 Um, the basic problem is that it shows a very complicated and convoluted legal theory to

00:26:38.900 avoid a very obvious statute of limitations problem.

00:26:41.240 Um, and then in doing so they needed to rely on Michael Cohen, a convicted perjurer and

00:26:48.560 disbarred attorney and his credibility in order to get Trump convicted.

00:26:52.400 Um, not that, so that's, that's just two of the most obvious problems.

00:26:56.480 There are others as well, but the, the thing about Michael Cohen, I I've said this before.

00:27:00.620 He, I think he's the single most despicable figure in all of the Russiagate nonsense and

00:27:05.520 all of the lawfare against president Trump in the last decade, this is a guy who recorded

00:27:10.900 his client as an attorney and then did so, and then sold, basically sold the rights to

00:27:18.880 his client's confidences.

00:27:20.080 It's, I mean, as an attorney myself, it strikes that like the most fundamental thing about

00:27:24.080 legal ethics, which is your, you have a duty of loyalty to your client.

00:27:28.000 You are obligated to preserve his confidence as sacrosanct.

00:27:30.800 Michael Cohen didn't just breach that, that duty of loyalty.

00:27:34.400 He sold out that duty of loyalty and profit off of breaching that duty. 0.65

00:27:39.500 Crazy.

00:27:39.780 Well, and this, and this, this is a huge thing.

00:27:42.420 I mean, in, in the times that I've had to deal with, uh, lawyers or even, even any time

00:27:48.620 when you're bringing someone into confidence, the idea is that you would not have that confidence

00:27:55.660 betrayed, uh, lawyers can't operate. 0.99

00:27:58.700 The whole profession can't operate if there's no level of trust between the attorney client

00:28:04.260 relationship.

00:28:04.880 And that's what we're talking about.

00:28:05.700 The attorney client privilege.

00:28:06.900 That's why it exists in the first place.

00:28:08.940 Correct.

00:28:09.940 Correct.

00:28:10.440 Um, the idea is that when you deal with the legal system, there should be somebody on

00:28:14.180 your side who can guide you through it.

00:28:16.020 Um, and that client should be able to be honest with their lawyers to help lawyers steer them

00:28:20.780 through, uh, dealing with the courts, which is usually a very, very important moment in

00:28:25.580 their lives.

00:28:26.580 In a situation where they have to deal with the courts.

00:28:28.220 So yeah, it's, it's truly appalling and contemptible.

00:28:31.820 And not only that, the guy's lied under oath a bazillion times, and it looks like President

00:28:37.660 Trump's lawyers caught him lying under oath yet again about this phone call that Cohen

00:28:41.640 apparently made to Keith Schiller.

00:28:43.820 Um, this is a 96 second phone call.

00:28:46.480 Apparently the phone call was, you know, Cohen testified that it was about the Stormy Daniels

00:28:50.660 deal.

00:28:50.880 And in reality, it looks like it was about Cohen being mad about some 14 year old harassing

00:28:55.360 him.

00:28:55.540 All he had to do, all Michael Cohen had to do was go on the stand and not lie.

00:29:05.140 All he had to do was testify to the facts and not lie.

00:29:10.700 He couldn't handle that.

00:29:12.760 He couldn't.

00:29:13.260 And this, that wasn't even under cross.

00:29:15.500 That was under direct.

00:29:17.360 That means, and, and will, you know, you know this and, and people have talked about the prep

00:29:21.600 on the case.

00:29:22.380 Okay.

00:29:22.860 That was a question that must've come up a dozen or more times.

00:29:27.960 Are you sure this is what you talked about on the call?

00:29:31.100 Are you absolutely sure this is what you talked about?

00:29:34.140 Are you, this is like the, the central part of your testimony.

00:29:38.020 And so I guess my question is, you know, do you think that Cohen, um, you know, that he

00:29:43.260 told them the truth that, uh, you know, the prosecution team, or do you think he was

00:29:45.980 just lying to everybody?

00:29:47.420 I think he might've just been lying to everybody.

00:29:49.400 And I mean, I think you gotta realize also, he has another incentive.

00:29:52.860 We, we haven't talked about this yet.

00:29:54.680 The guy admitted on the stand to stealing money from the Trump organization.

00:29:57.960 He did offhandedly in the, in his direct testimony.

00:30:00.820 But when he was, you know, questioned about it, yeah, this is a guy who stole like 60 grand

00:30:05.140 or something.

00:30:06.120 And that's a more serious crime than what Trump is even charged with.

00:30:09.900 The falsification of business records is not as serious as a straightforward larceny,

00:30:14.260 which is a felony outright, not something that has to be manufactured into a felony.

00:30:18.600 And normally prosecutors are looking to convict the most serious criminal who has committed

00:30:25.040 the most serious crime.

00:30:26.220 If they're, and if they want to let somebody plea out, they let somebody who's lesser involved

00:30:30.580 or less culpable.

00:30:31.680 But here it's completely inverted because they're more interested in the person rather than the

00:30:36.540 crime.

00:30:37.400 They're going to let Michael Cohen off of a larceny, a $60,000 theft in order to get Donald

00:30:44.920 Trump, who they allege might have instructed somebody else to change something on the books.

00:30:51.920 It's really, really embarrassing.

00:30:53.780 And it's, I mean, it's just generally a part of like what, what's so wrong with this prosecution.

00:31:01.060 Well, and, and, and we get, well, we've got a two minutes until the break, but we'll,

00:31:04.320 we'll come back after this and, and go into it at length because I've seen so many people

00:31:09.220 and even the New York post headline and their, their cover today is, is, well, so he stole.

00:31:13.900 So he's a thief, right? 0.99

00:31:14.920 He's a thief. 0.99

00:31:15.380 It's, it's, yes, it impeaches his character. 0.99

00:31:17.200 Sure.

00:31:17.520 Of course.

00:31:18.200 But that's not the bigger point here.

00:31:20.320 The bigger point here, isn't just that he stole from the Trump organization in terms

00:31:25.000 of overcharging for reimbursements.

00:31:26.900 It's that he was overcharging for these reimbursements.

00:31:32.160 He was overcharging for these expenses in the deal that he, the scheme that he himself put

00:31:40.460 together with Stormy Daniels.

00:31:43.500 And therefore not only does it impeach his character, it impeaches his ability as a material

00:31:50.640 witness to, um, uh, to explain his actions and his statements because it calls all of

00:31:57.300 it into question.

00:31:58.200 Now, he was the one who initiated the scheme.

00:32:01.980 He was the one who initiated the payment.

00:32:04.160 And, and of course, Donald Trump, if, if, uh, if involved in it all, as you just said,

00:32:09.080 well, he was operating on the advice of this individual, he would, he was operating on the

00:32:14.720 advice of this lawyer.

00:32:16.280 So it seems to me, and this is something that CNN, a lot of people made this point that,

00:32:20.660 you know, clearly there's a much larger crime here that's been committed by Michael Cohen.

00:32:26.780 I mean, falsification of business records.

00:32:28.860 I mean, that's usually like a fine and you refile.

00:32:31.080 That's like the end of it.

00:32:32.500 There's a ton to unpack here, folks.

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00:34:22.260 Will, one of the questions that producer Foss was,

00:34:24.060 asking over the break, this question of dismissing the case.

00:34:27.780 Now, motion dismiss, that's something that's made, it's every trial, every criminal trial

00:34:33.760 has this.

00:34:35.080 When the prosecution rests before it goes to the defense side, they say, oh, they haven't

00:34:38.900 proven the case and the evidence isn't there, so we're going to dismiss.

00:34:41.960 And what a lot of people have pointed out, though, that in this case, in this instance,

00:34:47.240 it seems like there actually is very strong grounds to do so because their own star witness perjured

00:34:57.000 himself, and not just perjured himself about something immaterial, about multiple material

00:35:02.800 elements of the case.

00:35:04.960 What say you, Will Chamberlain?

00:35:06.120 Yeah, it's normally a very high bar to meet in order to get a case dismissed in the sense

00:35:12.120 that you have to demonstrate that basically no reasonable juror could find that President

00:35:18.460 Trump was guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

00:35:20.400 That's a high bar.

00:35:21.980 But here, you've got a way to do it, and I think actually the motion to dismiss should

00:35:27.320 be granted, and here's why.

00:35:29.620 This case includes an intent element that says President Trump had to know he was both

00:35:33.740 intending to defraud or to put in a false business record, but also that he was intending

00:35:40.960 to commit another crime while doing so, namely some sort of election fraud crime.

00:35:46.320 And the only testimony, the only evidence of any kind that was presented by the prosecution

00:35:50.800 for those intent elements was Michael Cohen's testimony about conversations Cohen had with

00:35:56.900 President Trump.

00:35:57.940 And the problem is Cohen admitted to perjuring himself in a stand.

00:36:01.040 And so it's pretty easy to say that if the guy's willing to lie under oath, he's lied under

00:36:04.700 oath in the past, and he's lied under oath during this testimony, that no reasonable juror

00:36:09.960 could say beyond a reasonable doubt that Michael Cohen's testimony was truthful, and therefore

00:36:15.440 no reasonable juror could find President Trump guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, since Cohen's

00:36:20.180 testimony is the only evidence to prove one or two elements of this crime.

00:36:27.080 So here you go.

00:36:28.820 And this is a huge part of it, but we'll, I'll play devil's advocate for a second.

00:36:32.740 So, all right, what if, what about the tapes?

00:36:36.180 What about Stormy Daniels?

00:36:37.560 You yourself referenced these tapes.

00:36:39.280 What about the phone call?

00:36:40.480 What about, you know, the payment themselves?

00:36:42.840 Surely, these are corroboration of the fact that Donald Trump was behind this attempt to

00:36:49.680 cover up the false business records in order to benefit his campaign for president.

00:36:55.580 No, they're not specific enough.

00:36:57.300 Those tapes don't contain the specific discussions about how this would be recorded.

00:37:02.700 They don't contain the specific discussions about the purpose of the entire scheme being

00:37:07.320 related to elections and President Trump's campaign.

00:37:11.720 And because they don't contain those specific facts, you're, again, relying on Cohen's testimony.

00:37:17.280 Cohen testified to those specific points.

00:37:19.620 He testified that President Trump was deeply understood the nature of what would happen to

00:37:25.880 the business records.

00:37:26.800 Cohen testified that President Trump was doing this for political purposes.

00:37:30.720 And there's nobody else who was in the room, there's nobody else who testified that was

00:37:36.420 in the room, rather, who could confirm what Cohen was saying.

00:37:39.980 So, again, for that key point, the question of what was President Trump intending, there

00:37:46.160 is no other evidence at all except Cohen's testimony.

00:37:48.860 And because there's no other evidence but Cohen's testimony, if, you know, again, if the judge

00:37:53.640 says to himself, it is not reasonable to assign 100% credibility to Cohen, then it's not reasonable

00:37:59.700 for any juror to find Trump guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

00:38:04.500 So, this is huge.

00:38:07.560 And obviously, this is something that could come up at Appeal.

00:38:10.340 But before anything gets to Appeal, it goes to the jury.

00:38:15.020 And even before it goes to the jury, there's a few other steps.

00:38:18.440 Walk us through the process as of this point.

00:38:20.760 If I understand from Andrew Giuliani, who was just on, who's been covering this case live

00:38:25.040 from the courtroom, it seems as though they've sent the jury back for, you know, kind of

00:38:29.320 early for Memorial Day weekend.

00:38:31.260 Of course, there's probably going to be a few days where they go back and forth over jury

00:38:34.480 instructions.

00:38:35.400 I don't believe, it sounds like they're not calling the jury back until after the Memorial

00:38:39.480 Day weekend.

00:38:40.440 And if jury instructions haven't been agreed to since then, we might see another hearing on

00:38:44.780 that come next Tuesday.

00:38:46.620 So, walk us through what, what do jury instructions mean?

00:38:50.980 And then what's going to happen before the jury goes back for deliberations?

00:38:56.060 Okay.

00:38:56.600 So, I mean, everybody understands that there is a criminal statute that President Trump

00:39:00.800 has alleged to have violated.

00:39:02.080 And this is true in any criminal trial, right?

00:39:03.680 There's a criminal statute.

00:39:04.720 Jury instructions are the process of translating that criminal statute into something that jury

00:39:10.100 understands and then can be instructed as to like what they need to find for each element

00:39:14.900 of the crime.

00:39:16.820 That is itself a very trick, can be a very tricky process.

00:39:20.340 Oftentimes, basically what, what courts try to do is they try to use model jury instructions

00:39:25.360 or jury instructions from previous cases that were upheld on appeal as accurate.

00:39:30.500 That's a way that they avoid most of these problems.

00:39:32.640 But, you know, falsification of business records, this is not that commonly charged with crime.

00:39:36.540 And so, there's going to be some issues there.

00:39:39.640 There's also some unique, distinct issues about this particular case in terms of the

00:39:43.640 intent requirement and the fact that you have this, this federal election element, right?

00:39:48.380 Because an element of this crime is that President Trump intended to commit a different

00:39:52.640 crime in furtherance, or rather did the, you know, did the falsification of business

00:39:57.580 records in furtherance of different crimes.

00:39:59.700 So, there has to be jury instructions about what that other crime was and what the jury has

00:40:04.820 to find in order to find that that element.

00:40:06.620 Well, and this has been, real quick, this has been a huge element of it because we have

00:40:13.020 not really heard this from Bragg or his team, what specifically that underlying crime was

00:40:19.420 that they were trying to cover up.

00:40:20.820 So, I imagine that that's going to be a key point that is argued over between both sets of

00:40:28.920 lawyers because, of course, when that gets sent to the jury, you can't leave that up to

00:40:33.420 chance, you can't, there can't be vagaries in the jury instructions there.

00:40:37.080 That has to be a clear letter law when it's given to the jury.

00:40:41.440 Or, by the way, that's another thing that you can bring up on appeal.

00:40:46.540 Yeah, absolutely.

00:40:47.660 The failure to have an expert come in and explain the nuances of a very complicated area

00:40:52.700 of federal law that the judge is not an expert in.

00:40:54.920 I mean, normally, judges are loathe to allow legal experts to come testify because the judge

00:40:58.840 is supposed to be the expert on the law, and it's not supposed to be a factual issue for

00:41:02.780 the witnesses.

00:41:03.540 But because this is an element of the offense, right, the intent to commit a different crime

00:41:09.180 is an element of defense, that's actually an important point is he should have had a

00:41:14.140 legal expert in.

00:41:14.800 And here's the other problem.

00:41:16.440 He excludes the legal expert.

00:41:18.200 Wait, wait, wait.

00:41:19.080 Don't bury the lead there.

00:41:20.940 That's going to be a huge question for Trump's legal team.

00:41:23.860 Are they going to push for a legal expert to come in specifically because, as you point

00:41:29.480 out correctly, that this is a federal crime, but it's a state judge.

00:41:33.860 So it is not a crime that he would have had any direct experience with in his courtroom

00:41:40.820 because it's completely out of his jurisdiction, which is also, by the way, that they were trying

00:41:46.280 to get...

00:41:46.720 Oh, they did.

00:41:47.100 Okay.

00:41:47.440 And that's also why they were trying to get the former FEC chair in, which he, I believe,

00:41:51.860 have also denied because FEC...

00:41:53.860 This is exactly what I was talking about.

00:41:55.860 Oh, so that would be the legal expert.

00:41:57.880 Got it.

00:41:58.180 Okay.

00:41:58.560 The FEC chair was going to be the legal expert to talk about this.

00:42:01.560 Merchant, the Trump team brought him forward and said, please let this guy testify.

00:42:05.080 Merchant's like, no, I'm the expert on the law.

00:42:07.800 But then here's the other thing that was such a problem.

00:42:12.280 He let Michael Cohen testify about something that Trump did and let him say it was an election

00:42:18.640 law violation.

00:42:19.380 Cohen is certainly no expert on federal election law, but Merchant led that testimony through

00:42:25.140 saying it was necessary for context.

00:42:26.740 It's like, give me a break.

00:42:28.060 I mean, you're not going to let the actual expert on the substantive law and the intent

00:42:31.420 required come in and say what constitutes a crime in either way, but you're going to

00:42:34.640 let Michael Cohen do it?

00:42:36.840 By the way, Will, we've got a quick break coming up.

00:42:40.220 I also have breaking from the courtroom.

00:42:41.820 Just reading Jonathan Turley's feed here.

00:42:43.380 Merchant completely keeps ruling for the prosecution in terms of the jury instructions.

00:42:49.860 More on that when we come back to Human Events Daily.

00:42:51.200 Human Events Editorial Board, this case is a joke.

00:43:01.060 Ashton Kutcher is going to pop and left to tell us that we've been pumped.

00:43:06.540 Jack Pacific back live, Human Events Daily.

00:43:13.700 We've got the latest from inside the courtroom.

00:43:15.760 And guess what, folks?

00:43:17.060 And we're looking at Jonathan Turley's thread here from Twitter.

00:43:20.260 What's going on in the courtroom as we speak is exactly what Will Chamberlain was delineating

00:43:27.060 in the very last segment.

00:43:28.780 They're arguing over this issue of legal experts not being provided to the jury.

00:43:33.860 They're pointing out these are extremely complicated and ever-shifting, by the way,

00:43:39.100 regulations from the Federal Elections Commission regarding campaign donations.

00:43:43.040 In fact, I'm reading one line here.

00:43:44.620 And of course, who's arguing against all of this?

00:43:47.300 It's Matthew Colangelo.

00:43:48.840 The judge, of course, ruling for the prosecution over and over and over.

00:43:53.180 And in fact, at one point, it says the defense is even arguing that they should include information

00:43:59.280 that points out that a candidate, and this is just standard, a candidate is allowed to

00:44:05.440 donate as much money as they want to their own campaign.

00:44:09.780 And therefore, should Trump have, let's say this was actually a campaign donation, if he

00:44:15.760 had wanted to, he could have just paid it himself and wouldn't have needed any criminal

00:44:22.080 scheme.

00:44:22.640 But of course, the prosecutors are arguing that all of these things should be struck.

00:44:27.080 Will, I know you're looking at it right now.

00:44:28.920 What's your sense of things?

00:44:31.820 Yeah, my sense is that it's very clear Merchant is putting his thumb on the scale for the prosecution

00:44:38.240 here.

00:44:38.780 That's what it looks like.

00:44:39.580 They're just giving the prosecution what they want on the jury instructions.

00:44:42.860 And that's, I mean, that's not surprising.

00:44:45.160 That's the way Merchant's been conducting himself for the entirety of the trial.

00:44:48.000 The big, I mean, the one big issue is the prosecution's getting up there and trying to say that there

00:44:55.200 doesn't need to be intent for the unlawful means that President Trump would have used.

00:44:59.560 But that's a way to circumvent criminal law more generally, because you can't negligently

00:45:04.600 violate campaign finance law.

00:45:06.720 You have to have an intent to do so.

00:45:08.420 Otherwise, it's not a criminal.

00:45:10.700 It's not a crime.

00:45:12.060 So, you know, it's actually quite bizarre, right?

00:45:16.280 Like the just reading that just off the top of my head, I'm seeing problems already with

00:45:22.120 the way that Judge Merchant is getting these jury instructions.

00:45:24.740 And I mean...

00:45:25.860 So what can you do with that again?

00:45:28.640 They're arguing that there doesn't need to be criminal intent?

00:45:32.880 For this one particular, for that small element of the case, they're saying, you know, basically,

00:45:37.540 oh, if you did this via unlawful means, well, the intent, you didn't need to have the intent

00:45:41.160 to use unlawful means.

00:45:42.340 It's like, well, hold on.

00:45:43.200 How do you discern whether means are unlawful?

00:45:45.440 Well, that's because they're criminal.

00:45:47.680 And they're only criminal if you had criminal intent.

00:45:50.400 So there's sort of a foundational problem with how they're approaching this.

00:45:53.920 And that's just what I'm reading from John Turley's feed.

00:45:57.060 I'm assuming he's accurately characterizing all this.

00:46:01.040 And then, by the way, go ahead.

00:46:04.240 Oh, I was going to throw out there that again, they haven't even proven that Trump was willfully

00:46:11.580 doing this to support his campaign primarily, because I remember the one testimony that nobody's

00:46:19.320 talking about anymore is Hope Hicks. 0.70

00:46:20.720 And people were saying this was going to be some big betrayal, and she's going to come

00:46:24.100 out there, she worked for the man, and now she's testifying against him.

00:46:26.600 But she came up there, and she said, no, he didn't talk about the campaign at all.

00:46:31.820 And he mostly said that he was worried about how it would affect his family.

00:46:36.300 They said that he was worried about, obviously, how it would affect his relationship with his

00:46:40.620 wife.

00:46:40.960 The fact that he was even, say, you know, telling people, don't, you know, deliver the

00:46:45.020 newspapers to our room that day, canceling the service and all of this.

00:46:49.740 Those don't sound like the actions of a man who's first and foremost trying to conduct

00:46:55.380 some kind of illegal campaign business.

00:46:57.380 They said it sounds like a guy who's getting blackmailed and doesn't want his family to

00:47:02.280 know about it.

00:47:02.880 Yeah, that's an obvious problem, right?

00:47:05.580 If you think that President Trump would mean, even if you think President Trump did everything

00:47:09.680 Michael Cohen alleged, if you think he did it because he was trying to protect his family

00:47:14.000 and trying to avoid personal embarrassment in his marriage, then it's not guilty, because

00:47:18.640 that's not the intent needed.

00:47:20.480 That's not the intent required for the crime that he's been charged with.

00:47:23.520 And it's, you know, it's amazing to me that we're going to this level of having, you know,

00:47:32.120 we've got jury instructions regarding Federal Election Commission reports, but I don't even

00:47:38.060 feel like they've proven that this was done with intent to, you know, to interfere in the

00:47:43.640 election.

00:47:44.060 What was intended to interfere with the election, or I guess to use as leverage for the election,

00:47:49.140 was the fact that Stormy Daniels and her crooked former lawyer, who, by the way, has also now

00:47:55.200 pointed out the futility of this case, and I guess her ex-husband who was involved in

00:48:00.040 all this, they were the ones extorting money from a guy running for president, holding this

00:48:06.600 thing, which of course hasn't been proven over his head.

00:48:09.480 And then you have the crooked Michael Cohen getting involved and realizing that he can rub a

00:48:13.800 couple bucks out for himself in the middle.

00:48:16.120 I mean, Will, am I reading this wrong?

00:48:17.820 You're not.

00:48:19.140 And I mean, the deep irony here is, of course, they're saying President Trump is responsible

00:48:23.380 for interfering in the 2016 election.

00:48:24.860 And he's responsible for their actions.

00:48:26.680 He's responsible for all of their actions.

00:48:28.600 Yeah.

00:48:29.100 And they're the ones who've indicted the guy four times in four different jurisdictions

00:48:32.560 in four months.

00:48:33.900 I mean, give me a break.

00:48:36.160 Yes.

00:48:37.900 Right?

00:48:38.240 Like, what are we, you know, these people are jokers.

00:48:41.260 Originally three jurisdictions, by the way, but they moved one.

00:48:44.440 Yeah.

00:48:44.980 I guess it was five months.

00:48:46.140 I don't know, maybe I'm, you know, I'm overestimating the sheer density of indictments that they've

00:48:51.700 issued.

00:48:52.820 No, it's, it's, there's, there's so many different, because of the complicated this case is, because

00:48:59.040 of how complicated the indictment is, there's so many different individual things they have

00:49:02.480 to prove.

00:49:02.860 And there's so many unique problems with each of the individual things they have to

00:49:07.280 prove, right?

00:49:08.560 Like, you have to prove so many distinct things about President Trump's intent that he knew,

00:49:13.000 what did he know?

00:49:13.740 That he knew that this, there was going to be a falsification of the business records,

00:49:16.700 that he was intending to do so, not for his own personal reasons, but in furtherance of

00:49:20.860 a federal election crime.

00:49:22.340 What is that federal election crime?

00:49:23.840 Well, what, and what are the parameters of that federal election crime?

00:49:26.240 What does it mean to actually be guilty of it?

00:49:28.460 Because some things, as you say, you're allowed to donate as much money as you want to that

00:49:31.860 campaign.

00:49:32.880 When does, what, what exactly constitutes an illegal election donation?

00:49:36.740 And what is the necessary intent for that illegal election donation?

00:49:40.580 Like, problem after problem after problem, that any jury...

00:49:44.340 Right, you can't make an illegal donation to yourself.

00:49:47.180 That's the problem.

00:49:47.960 You can't make an illegal donation to yourself, because you're paying your own campaign.

00:49:51.760 It's a transfer.

00:49:52.280 Meanwhile, there's a guy who stole 60 grand from him, and you use, rather than charge

00:49:56.220 him with his brazen theft, you're putting him on the stand.

00:50:00.040 Putting him on the stand, and, and as far as we know, he still has the money, or I'm sure,

00:50:04.500 you know, it's gone somewhere.

00:50:05.500 Well, we're, we're just out of time.

00:50:07.280 Let people know where people, where, where they can go to, I mean, we're just having too

00:50:11.000 much fun clowning on Michael Cohen, the time has gotten away from us, um, and, and all 0.96

00:50:14.980 of these, this, these, uh, ridiculous buffoons. 0.80

00:50:17.520 Where people go to, get access, a3paction.org. 0.98

00:50:22.440 A3paction.org.

00:50:23.440 How can they sign up and follow you?

00:50:25.020 Exactly.

00:50:25.920 A3paction.org.

00:50:26.860 You can tell Congress to defund this lawfare on President Trump by supporting Representative

00:50:30.160 Clyde's appropriations rider that would stop all this until...

00:50:33.380 Defund it!

00:50:34.420 Defund it!

00:50:35.080 Defund Jack Smith.

00:50:36.400 Defund all of them.

00:50:37.920 Put them behind bars.

00:50:39.440 James Comey, you know what's something, Jimmy?

00:50:41.480 For once, you're right.

00:50:42.560 We are coming after you, and we're not going to stop.

00:50:44.960 You threw your best shot, and you missed.

00:50:47.460 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay short.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - May 21, 2024

DEFENSE RESTS AS COHEN THE RAT GETS CAUGHT IN HIS OWN TRAP

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