Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - Dissecting The Trans Psychosis and Victim Culture's Links to Violence

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00:02:54.640 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.

00:02:59.160 And today is October 21st, 2025.

00:03:01.820 And we've got a live shot for you.

00:03:12.140 Now, normally we do live bump shots of the White House.

00:03:16.180 And I want to let you all know that what you're looking at right now is, in fact, a live shot of the White House.

00:03:23.260 Now, guys, is it possible to show the mansion along with the shot?

00:03:27.240 Like, can you do a split screen there?

00:03:28.740 I know I'm producing this on the fly, but I want people to know what's going on.

00:03:32.380 That what we're showing you is the East Wing renovations that are ongoing right now.

00:03:38.740 So that is the executive mansion.

00:03:41.040 And, of course, what you're seeing are the renovations that are being done to the East Wing.

00:03:47.120 And so, of course, everyone knows phase one of renovation is demolition.

00:03:51.240 And I've got to tell you, my brother, who is an experienced craftsman, had actually said publicly, and I've communicated this as well to the White House,

00:04:02.440 that is it possible for perhaps pieces of the historic facade of the East Wing and obviously some of the structural stone there and the rest to be auctioned off at salvage?

00:04:15.640 And will there be a possibility for this as possibly a way to even raise funds for the new construction and for the ballroom?

00:04:22.660 This has actually been something that my brother has been working on for years.

00:04:25.820 He did this a lot in Philadelphia.

00:04:27.120 As a matter of fact, my wedding gift that I received from him, myself and Tanya Tay, was a piece of the original, I think it's granite, the original granite floor of Independence Hall in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, where we got married in Valley Forge.

00:04:45.320 And so he got us a piece of the original floor of Independence Hall, where the founders actually walked.

00:04:53.720 And so it's an incredible thing.

00:04:54.980 And I would think it's great if the White House were able to put up something like that or make an auction or make it available for people, because this is, of course, part of history.

00:05:03.420 But there's a lot of history of changes to the White House.

00:05:06.260 If you go and read about it, the Oval Office has changed.

00:05:09.300 The Oval Office actually used to be in the center of the White House.

00:05:11.820 Now it's over in the West Wing.

00:05:13.040 The West Wing, of course, didn't exist before FDR.

00:05:15.260 So a lot of people saying, oh, what's President Trump doing?

00:05:18.740 But in fact, the history of the White House itself has been of an ever-evolving building.

00:05:25.940 And President Trump absolutely – and it's just a logical step.

00:05:29.480 You've got to put a ballroom in there. 0.89

00:05:31.160 You need a place to be able to host these great dinners and these great events when you're bringing in heads of state from around the world.

00:05:38.160 And, you know, just as a personal touch, I would love if it were to be named the Charles J. Kirk White House ballroom.

00:05:48.120 President – or excuse me, Vice President J.D. Vance now landing on the ground in Israel.

00:05:53.280 He's gone there to strengthen the peace deal between Israel and Hamas.

00:06:00.300 Now, of course, we saw that flare-up over the weekend.

00:06:03.420 But J.D. Vance going there, he's accompanied by Whitcoff.

00:06:05.780 He's accompanied by Jared Kushner as well.

00:06:08.400 And there was this incredible interview that was given on 60 Minutes with Whitcoff and Kushner talking about how, look, you know, these two sides, they want to fight.

00:06:17.320 These two sides are really seriously itching for a fight with one another and how it's the United States that's really come down in the middle to be the mediator

00:06:27.660 and to be the one that's standing and putting leverage on both sides in a way that, by the way, doesn't look like the United States is able to do directly on Russia the way that we are with Israel

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00:06:46.520 And what that means is that this latest idea of a Trump-Putin summit in Budapest is now supposedly either being postponed or potentially canceled.

00:06:57.060 So, of course, we're following that.

00:06:58.620 We're following all the updates.

00:06:59.900 Vice President on the ground in Israel, the Gaza peace deal.

00:07:05.900 Will it strengthen?

00:07:06.680 Will it hold?

00:07:08.020 Well, folks, so much of this is continuing in Human Events Daily.

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00:09:26.460 Really excited to have our next guest on.

00:09:30.000 Someone that I've been, I've promoted her stuff.

00:09:32.600 She's been on TimCast.

00:09:33.720 You've seen her around.

00:09:34.480 You saw her on Dr. Phil, I think just about a week ago.

00:09:38.380 Her name is Dr. Chloe Carmichael.

00:09:40.700 She's a clinical psychologist.

00:09:43.240 And she is in fact the author and USA Today best-selling author of Can I Say That?

00:09:48.860 Why Free Speech Matters and How to Use It Fearlessly.

00:09:52.940 Dr. Chloe, thank you.

00:09:54.520 And we're honored to have you today on Human Events Daily.

00:09:58.320 Thank you so much, Jack.

00:09:59.540 It's truly an honor to be here with you.

00:10:01.340 Well, it's great to have you on.

00:10:03.740 Now, there was something that you mentioned because I saw clips of your Dr. Phil interview.

00:10:09.300 And you mentioned to him about this phrase, words are violence.

00:10:13.480 And we hear this phrase over and over and over.

00:10:16.840 And what you've done is you've used your clinical research to actually unpack the psychology of what's going on here with these people who actually believe this.

00:10:27.620 And, in fact, how it's leading to unhealthy outcomes for a lot of people.

00:10:33.160 Yeah, absolutely.

00:10:34.300 So people who love that slogan, words are violence, I mean, I try to be charitable and assume that maybe they're coming from a good place.

00:10:41.860 But they should know that this actually backfires and has the opposite effect because the way we reduce violence is through dialogue.

00:10:50.520 Violence increases when dialogue ceases.

00:10:53.980 So when we use phrases like words are violence to try to shut down people that we disagree with, we're actually priming the pump for violence.

00:11:02.100 So we definitely want to keep the dialogue going, like Charlie Kirk always said.

00:11:07.820 Well, say, now you mentioned you're priming the pump for violence.

00:11:12.340 Walk me through that phrase.

00:11:13.620 What does that mean, priming the pump?

00:11:15.660 Yeah.

00:11:16.000 So as a clinical psychologist, if I'm working with violent offenders or you're working in prison populations or even just, you know, regular people with anger management problems,

00:11:25.540 one of the first things that you want to do is to teach them how to have dialogue when they are upset because even a mom of a toddler will tell you that using your words will help you to resolve conflicts and not escalate things.

00:11:42.860 When people shut down and they stop talking, that's when they're more prone to what psychologists call acting out their feelings.

00:11:50.500 That's when they're more prone to violence.

00:11:52.600 You know, it's what any, you know, peace negotiator or anything like that will tell you is step one, you want dialogue.

00:11:59.720 So words are not violence.

00:12:01.140 In fact, again, when the violence increases, when dialogue ceases.

00:12:07.100 Well, and in fact, Charlie had said that himself.

00:12:11.060 He said when I'm just pulled up the quote here, when people stop talking, that's when you get violence.

00:12:16.540 And in fact, that's this book that you've written actually backs that up with the clinical research.

00:12:21.520 Yes, and thank you so much for your kind endorsement of the book as well, Jack.

00:12:27.480 That meant a great deal to me.

00:12:29.260 But yeah, I felt I had to write it as a clinical psychologist because unfortunately, free speech has become a politically coded issue.

00:12:37.540 It really should be neither owned by the left nor the right.

00:12:40.500 It's for all of us.

00:12:41.540 But for whatever reason, right now, it's coded as a right-leaning, you know, value.

00:12:47.100 And my profession, clinical psychologist, literally leans 90% plus to the left.

00:12:53.140 So I think that might be why my profession is more pounding the drum about hate speech and bullying and maybe even leading the charge on some of this silencing of dialogue.

00:13:04.640 But what I know as a clinical psychologist is the opposite, that we should be promoting free speech.

00:13:11.560 That's actually how we reduce, you know, bullying and if there's hate speech or misinformation.

00:13:18.160 Experts will actually tell you it's through dialogue.

00:13:21.240 You know, even if it's like a KKK member or former jihadis, they'll all tell you that they healed through dialogue.

00:13:28.760 So I don't know where this words are violence nonsense is coming from.

00:13:33.020 It's it's misguided at best.

00:13:36.080 And it seems that and I've done, you know, my fair share of, you know, trying to unpack this pathology.

00:13:42.620 But, you know, it seems to come from a place where thinking that that people's feelings being hurt is the same as physical violence that you you've done because there's this word harm.

00:13:55.020 And they'll say, well, you did me harm because you harmed my feelings.

00:13:59.800 Therefore, you're doing harm to me.

00:14:02.140 Therefore, for example, Charlie Kirk speaking out on the transgender issue, which is obviously something that he's been quite vocal about, is in fact a form of violence to the transgender community.

00:14:13.200 And this is why in the wake of Charlie's murder, even before anyone had been identified, there were a number of people who suggested that perhaps because we've seen so much violence from the trans community that this could and in fact just days before they had shot up a school or this this one trans offender that perhaps there could be a connection.

00:14:33.880 And in fact, there was it was a someone who was in a relationship with a transgender boyfriend.

00:14:40.400 And so, you know, where where does that idea come in that you harming my feelings is something that's causing me physically physical harm?

00:14:50.720 Because you do tend to see this and I'm just going to call it out.

00:14:53.360 You tend to see it with a lot of Gen Z where where they're so worried about having their feelings hurt that they almost become, you know, conflict, conflict aversive.

00:15:04.600 Yeah, it's I totally agree.

00:15:06.500 And, you know, it's it is, of course, it's literally psychotic.

00:15:09.660 And in psychology, we call it psychotic when something is, you know, broken from reality.

00:15:16.020 And so it's actually a very anxiety evoking way to live your life, to think like, God forbid, somebody says the wrong thing to me.

00:15:23.420 You know, my it's like I've been run over by a car.

00:15:27.380 Right. Or to think, God forbid, that you say the wrong thing to somebody else.

00:15:30.960 Then, you know, it's like you've run them over with a car.

00:15:32.980 Now, you bring up the trans issue and the overlap, which I think is interesting, because, frankly, there's a lot of psychoticism, I think, within the trans movement, because, again, going back to this idea that psychotic essentially means out of touch with reality. 0.83

00:15:49.500 And there are some people who identify as trans that say like Caitlyn Jenner that says, I know I'm a man who has had cosmetic surgery.

00:15:56.860 Like Caitlyn knows what he is, but there are many trans people who believe that through their surgeries or whatever, that they literally magically become a member of the opposite sex, which, you know, I would say is a psychotic belief.

00:16:11.420 And so it is interesting, as you said, that there is this overlap with the violence.

00:16:16.560 In fact, when Governor Tim Walz signed into law, you know, making Minnesota a sanctuary state, there was a Minnesota lawmaker in the background photo with a T-shirt that said, protect trans kids at all costs.

00:16:30.200 And it had a bloody knife on it.

00:16:31.800 There's also a lot of medication, obviously, going on within that community.

00:16:36.600 And some of that medication could even have side effects that could lead to additional psychoticism, as well as potentially violent behavior, especially if they say anybody who disagrees that I'm, you know, X, you know, gender is, quote, threatening my existence.

00:16:53.940 That setting up self-defense language, to your point, this idea that these words are, quote, harming me on a physical level, that's really broken from reality because it's just obviously not true.

00:17:06.780 Well, and because, you know, I think there's so many people, obviously, myself included, you know, you ask you, what could possess someone to climb a roof at the middle of a peaceful college campus and, you know, to plan and act as heinous and unspeakably evil as this?

00:17:26.920 And something that I've always said is, well, they don't think they're evil.

00:17:31.280 And I'll say this as a guy who served at Guantanamo Bay and came face to face with, you just mentioned jihadists.

00:17:39.720 I'm not a clinical psychologist, but, you know, I've been up close and personal with those types.

00:17:45.120 And again, they don't think they're evil.

00:17:47.020 They think it all rationally flows logically from their train of thought.

00:17:51.480 And so you have to sort of unpack that to understand why they're doing what they're doing.

00:17:55.920 Totally.

00:17:57.280 And so they do get—there's something in psychology called the secondary gains of victimhood.

00:18:02.200 And so if they fancy themselves the victim of, you know, this violent attack, then one of the maybe secondary gains to that is that it gives them in their mind an excuse to act out violently upon people.

00:18:17.560 And it is interesting, of course, that when Charlie Kirk was assassinated, martyred, he was literally in the process—it was the first trans issues question that was posed to him.

00:18:30.960 And then that very moment he was in that process of answering, you know, when his life was taken by somebody, as you mentioned, Tyler Robinson, that his boyfriend identified as trans.

00:18:44.820 Interestingly, these gentlemen also apparently had some interest or connection with the, quote, furry community, which is another level of psychoticism, right?

00:18:54.820 Like, again, this transhuman idea that we can just break from reality. 1.00

00:19:00.680 Whereas, again, for me as a clinical psychologist—

00:19:03.100 Dr. Chloe, we're coming up on a very quick break.

00:19:06.840 I'm so sorry that we have to hold this off because this is exactly what we need to be talking about as a country right now.

00:19:14.960 Be right back.

00:19:15.680 Jack Posobiec, Dr. Chloe Carmichael on Real America's Voice.

00:19:18.680 All right, Jack Posobiec, we are back.

00:19:38.460 We're live with Dr. Chloe Carmichael, clinical psychologist, and she's walking us through the psychology of trans shooters and people who are associated with the trans movement.

00:19:48.680 Who have become trans shooters, transhumanists as well, by the way, people who are involved in the furry movement, which is, again, break from reality, all of which tied to extreme sexual behaviors.

00:20:02.180 And so, Dr. Chloe, you were telling me just now the secondary gains of victimhood.

00:20:07.860 Is that a—this idea that being a victim somehow has value to it?

00:20:14.300 Because, you know, I remember I was thinking just during the break, you know, when I was a kid, my father taught me, you know, that classic phrase that perhaps isn't so classic anymore, sticks and stones can break by bones, but words will never hurt me.

00:20:26.980 But we don't use that standard anymore.

00:20:29.340 Now we use the standard words are violence.

00:20:31.780 And you mentioned the anti-bullying movement, and a lot of this does kind of come from there, that, you know, these words, these things that people say are kind of the same thing as violence, whereas, you know, the way my father taught me was you stand up to bullies.

00:20:46.040 You confront them.

00:20:47.780 You take that step to sort of, you know, self-actualize and rise to the occasion.

00:20:53.560 But now we teach people to not do that, and it does kind of perhaps lead to these psychotic breaks.

00:21:00.260 Yeah, absolutely.

00:21:01.120 Not in every one that happens.

00:21:02.300 Yeah, you can stand up to bullies, or sometimes you can realize maybe the person isn't even a bully.

00:21:06.960 Maybe, like, I can just brush this off, you know.

00:21:09.560 In fact, sometimes people can ironically become the bully through this secondary gains retaliation, right?

00:21:16.980 So one of the things I want people to understand is that if you try to silence somebody and take away their right to speak, frankly, you are the bully at that point, right?

00:21:29.160 But secondary gains of victimhood is it's psychology 101, the classic example in a psych textbook is as a little girl breaks her leg, she gets to skip gym class, everybody signs her cash, she loves it so much.

00:21:42.220 And then when it's time for the cast to come off, she says with all sincerity, no, no, no, no, I still need it, you know.

00:21:48.300 And she's not even lying, but she just unconsciously got so attached to this that she comes to not want to part, you know, with the victimhood status and the perks that go with it.

00:21:59.520 Now, people can actually wield that victimhood power in a more sophisticated, deliberate, intentional way as well, which, you know, again, if you say, hey, words are violence,

00:22:11.260 and therefore your words are bullying me and victimizing me, and now I'm, you know, justified to retaliate, you know, with my fists, you know, I mean, that was one of the bullet etchings on Tyler Robinson's bullet was, you know, hey, fascists, catch these hands, right?

00:22:29.800 And as a clinical psychologist, I know that if a patient tells me that he's going to go say something mean and nasty to his neighbor, I'm legally prohibited from breaking that confidentiality.

00:22:42.440 But if my patient tells me I'm going to go, you know, punch somebody in the face, then I'm obligated to actually break confidentiality and take action because it's very obvious.

00:22:52.960 One is violence and one is not. And we're not helping people by blurring that line with phrases like words are violence.

00:23:01.360 By the way, that's secondary gains of victimhood. I think when I was in the Navy, perhaps some of my sailors may have been exploiting that one every once in a while.

00:23:10.420 Oh, you know, sir, we're still still feeling sick, sir. Still got to stay in rack. I think I need another light duty chit.

00:23:17.960 I think I need another. You know, we certainly by the way, we call that malingering in the Navy.

00:23:23.700 And there's some very serious punishments for that, especially when you are at sea.

00:23:28.060 And in fact, it is a well-known condition that goes back. Gosh, I don't know, all the way back to the age of sail, you know, thousands of years ago.

00:23:36.160 But it's certainly something that we've had to deal with in the Navy.

00:23:39.260 But I see the same thought patterns here because you're right.

00:23:42.020 They gain this victim status and then they believe that they gain some sort of extra power, extra ability through that victim.

00:23:48.960 And we see this all throughout society today, by the way. And it's not just here.

00:23:52.740 Going back, though, and kind of drilling down a little bit more on on Robinson, the the effect of now.

00:24:01.880 Now, here we see he wasn't necessarily trans himself, certainly had some affinity for the furry culture that we know through his online search history.

00:24:11.060 But but is there an element of sort of feeling that he was defending his romantic partner, his boyfriend here?

00:24:18.040 Is that is that really kind of how how he saw his act?

00:24:22.200 I mean, we can only speculate, of course, but I do think a white knight, knight in shining armor situation, I think, is certainly plausible.

00:24:30.280 I mean, he obviously have, you know, it sounds like he was in a relationship with this, you know, man who identified as trans.

00:24:38.840 And I don't think it's a coincidence that, you know, he chose to shoot literally at that moment when the very first trans question arose.

00:24:49.060 So I think that's entirely a plausible possibility to be explored.

00:24:54.520 Well, it just it seems it seems to me that there's so much involved here that, of course, we're not hearing.

00:25:04.180 And then we see these, you know, these text messages, which are obviously admittedly strange.

00:25:08.560 But, you know, between him and Twigs, the boyfriend, and he's, you know, taken at face value.

00:25:15.180 It seems that there's some sort of, you know, loving, romantic Romeo and Juliet kind of situation going on.

00:25:22.440 But it also is a level of catastrophizing where where, you know, I had to do this or else your life would have been forfeit.

00:25:30.040 I mean, it's it's it seems ridiculous.

00:25:32.280 But I guess the point that I'm trying to make and what you explain in your book is that when you're caught up in all of these psychoses, that it does actually seem as though you're in a catastrophe to them.

00:25:44.900 Yes, although it's hard to tell sometimes which which is feeding which.

00:25:48.640 So, for example, you can just have a desire to murder and then you can, you know, basically, you know, sublimate it by coming up with a socially acceptable reason to do it.

00:26:00.900 Right. It's called sublimation.

00:26:02.880 Now, obviously, we don't think his reasoning is socially acceptable.

00:26:06.720 Again, it's quite ironic that he said that Charlie Kirk was so hateful.

00:26:10.620 Right. That he had to go shoot him. 0.98

00:26:12.220 But a healthy example of sublimation, for example, would be suppose that like most most surgeons are thought of as maybe sublimating what could be a pathological desire to, you know, cut people open and, you know, get into all that stuff.

00:26:26.220 But they find a socially acceptable way to channel that energy through surgery.

00:26:31.320 And so it's it's possible that instead of his violent eruption coming because of his belief system, he may also have adopted or enhanced his belief system as a cover to accommodate his violent tendencies.

00:26:49.080 Or they can also feed each other in a circular fashion.

00:26:53.620 I do think that there's a lot of very disaffected young men these days.

00:26:58.840 You know, I mean, gosh, if you're a straight white male, a lot of doors are closed.

00:27:04.360 All right. All right. We're up against another break. Dr. Chloe, I need to hold you over because we need to we need to get to the bottom of this.

00:27:10.020 We're good, guys. We're holding her over. We're holding over. Dr. Chloe.

00:27:13.020 I'm sorry, Dr. Chloe, you're not allowed to leave. The session is not yet finished.

00:27:16.000 I'm not leaving the couch. Jack Posobiec, Real America's Voice, Human Events Daily.

00:27:21.380 This is Jack. Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you.

00:27:30.800 Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do.

00:27:34.420 You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad.

00:27:38.100 But we have guys and these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.

00:27:41.580 All right. Jack Posobiec, we're back here. Human Events Daily.

00:27:48.720 We're on and we're finishing up our session, our therapy session here with Dr. Chloe Carmichael, because Dr. Chloe, you were talking.

00:27:56.040 You were you got it. I mean, this is so amazing.

00:27:58.980 You've tied together sublimation, people who have these these perhaps violent, but perhaps anger tendencies.

00:28:06.400 And then you tied that. And just as we cut, you tied that to the rising portion of disaffected young men in society.

00:28:13.340 This is something that I've talked about a lot. This is something that Charlie Kirk talked about a lot, that we have this huge and rising, unfortunately, pool of disaffected young men.

00:28:23.540 And it's that disaffection. And this has been my argument completely. It's that disaffection, that disassociation with the real world, because they feel the real world doesn't have anything for them.

00:28:34.060 So what do they do? They throw themselves into fantasy worlds. They throw themselves into these false beliefs.

00:28:40.500 And in some cases it does produce psychoses, the one like the ones that you've been describing here, because they feel that reality, the real world, the sort of, quote unquote, status quo of society today.

00:28:53.920 And by the way, I'm more than willing to acknowledge that there is a problem in America today for young men that that in some cases those pressures do end up squeezing them to the point where they erupt.

00:29:06.200 Very few outlets for them to just, you know, be men without getting labeled as toxically masculine in some circles. Right.

00:29:16.060 So I feel like many of them feel as if they kind of have to subvert that masculine energy or, you know, identify as trans or, you know, say, well, I hate the fascists or whatever, as you know, and it kind of distorts in a way their their masculine energy.

00:29:32.760 And then when we throw in this thing about words or violence, I just I find it very interesting that Tyler Robinson, as well as Luigi Mangione, as well as the Dallas ice shooter and others, they're starting to literally etch words upon their bullets.

00:29:47.500 Right. So, I mean, talk about the ultimate confusion of words and violence that that this is as a psychologist.

00:29:54.160 I mean, it's kind of a textbook picture of acting out your violent feelings because these are the very same people who tend to think that it's somehow virtuous to shut down dialogue.

00:30:07.420 This is the same group that statistically much more likely to defriend on Facebook, to disinvite a speaker or otherwise show social hostility and refuse to dialogue with people who see things differently.

00:30:19.660 OK, last last last point. And I want to remind everyone, the book is, can I say that, Dr. Chloe Carmichael?

00:30:28.000 Oh, we've got the graphic. Don't worry, you don't have to do the whole you don't have to do the whole Vanna White up there for us.

00:30:33.100 And although, of course, we love seeing it. And it's all about free speech and the attacks on free speech today and how it produces these various psychoses and how that we should use free speech fearlessly.

00:30:45.440 Obviously, he wrote this before knowing that Charlie Kirk would be killed over free speech.

00:30:50.460 That's the point that I want to ask you, though. So the writings on the bullet casings, you mentioned that Tyler Robinson wrote on the bullet casings.

00:30:58.300 He also wrote Bella Chao, which is the international anthem of Antifa. You mentioned the anti ice shooter down in Dallas, Texas.

00:31:05.480 He wrote literally anti ice on the bullet casings. And the first one that we've seen in the string of violent shootings, violent sniper shootings was, in fact, Luigi Maggioni himself,

00:31:15.500 who wrote on the bullets when he shot and killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, deny, defend and depose.

00:31:24.040 What is the connection here? Because you're right. They it's not just that their words are violence, but that so the people who believe words are violence,

00:31:31.320 they're writing words on the bullets, which is the act of violence itself. I feel like I'm getting there. Unpack it for me.

00:31:40.440 Yeah. So it's it's interesting. It's I talk about this in my book with something called the five D's.

00:31:45.420 So the same people happens to be people who identify as liberal, who will defriend on Facebook, disinvite a speaker, decline to date, drop or distance contact in real life are literally the same people,

00:32:00.880 according to, say, you gov polls that will endorse or celebrate political violence.

00:32:06.240 And so there is something about taking away our words, which is our most natural way to to resolve conflicts.

00:32:13.380 I mean, it's literally innate. Even infant babies will respond to human voices in ways that they won't respond to any other sound.

00:32:21.820 We need to communicate. We're hardwired to communicate.

00:32:25.140 And so when you stop people from communicating or stop yourself from communicating, you are literally just setting the stage for violence for yourself.

00:32:33.580 So I would love to get, say, with Linda McMahon or these other people that are working with young people in schools so that we can help them understand that if they want to reduce bullying and whatnot,

00:32:45.160 the way to do it is not to stamp out speech. It is to promote speech. That is the answer.

00:32:53.560 Couldn't agree more. And you're right. This this is all ties together.

00:32:58.340 The final expression of the words are violence is the fact that they are turning their words, turning these words into actual expressions of physical violence.

00:33:08.720 This is the penultimate step before actually pulling the trigger.

00:33:13.480 Dr. Chloe Carmichael, incredible interview. Where can people go to follow you?

00:33:18.180 Free speech today dot com. If they go to free speech today dot com, they'll get my my books and my social media handles.

00:33:23.860 I love to mix it up on X, Jack, especially with you. So if they go to free speech today dot com, they can get it all.

00:33:32.020 Check her out, Dr. Chloe on X and free speech today dot com.

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00:35:03.620 All right, folks. Welcoming on our next guest, my good friend, Paula Scanlon from Early Vote Action.

00:35:10.240 Is now joining us. Paula, how are you?

00:35:12.900 I'm good. Good to be back with you.

00:35:15.520 Good to be here. And it was great to see you on, I guess that was Sunday, up with Jack Cattarelli up there in Bergen County.

00:35:22.380 And Paula, tell everybody how many people were there. I'm not making this up.

00:35:26.640 There are a few thousand or at least a thousand, right?

00:35:29.240 I mean, I'm really actually bad at estimating group numbers of people, so maybe I'm not the best person to ask.

00:35:35.280 But it was a great event. There were at least a thousand people there.

00:35:39.160 You spoke and did a wonderful job, and many people were excited to see POSO speak himself, and he made the trip, and so we're grateful for that.

00:35:46.440 But what I will say is the energy in New Jersey is high.

00:35:49.780 Bergen County is one of those must-win counties that will determine the course of the election for Jack and just Jack Cattarelli in two weeks.

00:35:57.920 And so I'm excited to see it. I think the energy is high.

00:36:00.760 I don't think people are very excited about the other candidate, who is just Vanilla Harris.

00:36:05.900 That really is who she is, and that's what we've seen.

00:36:09.140 But New Jersey is ready, and we're working hard.

00:36:11.440 And again, there are so many people that have come out and supported this race, and so we're two weeks to go, and we're excited to win this thing.

00:36:19.840 So you mentioned Vanilla Harris. Oh, my gosh.

00:36:23.900 She has now, Mikey Sherrill has now announced that she's bringing, airdropping Barack Obama into New Jersey.

00:36:31.600 And I'm so confused why she would do that, because didn't Joe Biden get 500,000 more votes in New Jersey than Barack Obama is?

00:36:40.580 Why is she getting yesterday's news like Barack Obama and not bringing in the far more popular president, Joe Biden?

00:36:47.080 I don't understand it, Paula.

00:36:49.020 You know, I wish I knew, too.

00:36:50.680 And I had just tweeted about this, actually, earlier before coming on.

00:36:54.000 Obama has not been on the ballot in almost 15 years.

00:36:56.900 Why is this the best person that you have to help campaign and represent the Democrat Party and make the push for Democrats?

00:37:03.880 I think, if anything, Obama is unpopular in the state of New Jersey.

00:37:08.120 I think many people in New Jersey probably voted for Obama and then realized the mistake that they've made, because this state has only gotten further and further right every election since Obama was on the ballot, I'm pretty sure.

00:37:18.700 This past election, I mean, it was so close.

00:37:21.040 Trump almost beat Kamala Harris. 0.93

00:37:22.640 And so it's I have no idea.

00:37:25.440 And I think that they're scrambling.

00:37:26.600 I think it shows that they're desperate here.

00:37:28.180 And I think that really there's the excitement for Cheryl is just not there. 0.95

00:37:34.080 No, it's not there at all.

00:37:35.340 And we found a picture of her a couple of days ago that showed you that there is no joy.

00:37:40.620 She's not experiencing the joy.

00:37:43.060 We're coming up on a quick break, but New Jersey, we've seen the polls tighten.

00:37:48.100 We know that it's getting closer.

00:37:49.520 Paula Scanlon is down there.

00:37:51.080 Early vote action.

00:37:51.820 Of course, you work with Scott Pressler.

00:37:53.500 So many others working directly with the campaign.

00:37:55.720 Look, guys, I've said it and I'll say it again.

00:37:57.640 NJ is the play.

00:37:59.860 If you want to put work in.

00:38:01.120 And by the way, go download the Turning Point Action app because the Turning Point Action app can let you work in New Jersey or wherever you like.

00:38:07.760 Virginia, Arizona, from the comfort of your own home.

00:38:11.640 We'll be right back.

00:38:12.340 Jack Posobiec, Paula Scanlon, Human Events Daily Continues.

00:38:20.800 Jack is a great guy.

00:38:22.320 He's written a fantastic book.

00:38:24.020 Everybody's talking about it.

00:38:25.260 Go get it.

00:38:26.380 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.

00:38:30.340 And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.

00:38:33.480 Amen.

00:38:37.760 All right, Jack Posobiec, back live, Human Events Daily.

00:38:40.260 You're looking at the live shot, the East Wing Reconstruction of the White House.

00:38:45.240 We're on with Paula Scanlon.

00:38:47.140 She is working with early vote action in New Jersey, predominantly early vote action.

00:38:53.700 Of course, we know Scott Pressler covers New Jersey, Pennsylvania, a number of other states.

00:38:58.420 Paula, for those who are interested in perhaps whether they're willing to hop on a plane or fly over to New Jersey or drive there,

00:39:07.420 or whatever it might be, how can people get involved with early vote action?

00:39:12.700 Yes, you can definitely go to our website, earlyvoteaction.com.

00:39:15.820 There's information there if you want to see more of what we're up to and get more involved.

00:39:20.400 But you can honestly message me personally if you're looking to get involved.

00:39:24.000 Our wonderful state director, Michael Casey, is also helping manage.

00:39:27.200 Our inboxes have been full.

00:39:28.740 I'm not going to lie to you guys.

00:39:29.860 I stayed up pretty late last night going over everything with Michael.

00:39:32.400 But what this shows me is that the energy is here.

00:39:35.280 There are patriots from across this country that want to see New Jersey win.

00:39:38.860 And so we have to keep moving on this.

00:39:40.940 We have two weeks left until Election Day.

00:39:43.240 Make sure you vote early if you're available right now.

00:39:46.160 And if you're waiting until Election Day, make sure you find a way to get it done.

00:39:50.020 This is so important.

00:39:51.140 Text your friends in New Jersey.

00:39:52.560 I'm going to text all of my friends from college that are from New Jersey this week and make sure that they're all ready to go,

00:39:57.960 ready to vote, and ready to vote for Jack.

00:39:59.780 And also for the down-ballot candidates, some of them were there at the event that we were at this past weekend.

00:40:04.720 And that's also equally important.

00:40:06.120 Jack needs support in the local positions to help push his agenda, to help better New Jersey, to help put in better policies.

00:40:13.320 And so I've been really excited.

00:40:15.100 The energy is really high.

00:40:16.940 People are ready, and people are tired of what's been going on under Democrat control in New Jersey, and they want change.

00:40:22.820 And I think this entire country wants to see New Jersey win.

00:40:26.240 I think a lot of people have been looking to this race.

00:40:29.780 Oh, 100%.

00:40:30.660 I couldn't agree more.

00:40:31.940 And look, I saw the energy there on the ground myself personally.

00:40:35.500 I'm actually told, by the way, that another prominent conservative is going to be heading up to New Jersey this weekend,

00:40:43.200 although I'm not sure it's public yet.

00:40:45.100 But look for that coming up this Saturday.

00:40:47.460 Paul, though, I got to ask you, because I know that you, you know, you're working in New Jersey,

00:40:52.360 but you actually live in New York City.

00:40:56.200 And I know this because, obviously, you tweet about it all the time.

00:40:59.100 And you are looking at your city's mayoral race now.

00:41:03.720 Are you about to be governed by Kami Mamdani?

00:41:07.180 Yeah, it is unfortunately looking that way.

00:41:12.040 I think we're in a situation now where it's a three-way race.

00:41:15.680 I don't entirely understand what's going on.

00:41:17.760 I think the fate of New York is dire.

00:41:20.060 The amount of texts I've received from friends and family in the last couple weeks just saying,

00:41:23.920 hey, when's your moving date?

00:41:25.860 Do you need help moving boxes?

00:41:27.760 Because this is the reality that we're dealing with in New York.

00:41:30.400 And unfortunately, we have a lot of brain-dead people that don't know any better,

00:41:34.940 people who probably shouldn't even be allowed to be voting in elections that are voting here in New York. 1.00

00:41:39.660 It's really sad and pathetic. 0.94

00:41:41.200 And something I, when I look at Mamdani, someone who's gotten, 0.97

00:41:44.680 has such privilege to immigrate to this country.

00:41:47.560 My mom immigrated to this country, and she moved right here to New York City, 0.59

00:41:51.440 and her family worked so hard to live the American dream.

00:41:55.720 And they understand the value and the privilege it is to be an American.

00:41:58.600 And seeing someone like Mamdani with all this privilege coming in and saying,

00:42:02.720 I don't actually care about the people.

00:42:04.140 I want to put people in danger.

00:42:05.560 Making the buses free, it's going to become basically moving homeless shelters.

00:42:10.480 The people on the streets in New York are already out there.

00:42:13.500 We need more police, not less.

00:42:14.840 And he wants to defund the police.

00:42:16.320 And he tries to walk away from that, but it's been everywhere in his platform.

00:42:20.160 And that's not what we need in New York.

00:42:22.300 We need people to crack down on crime.

00:42:24.440 We don't want to see what happened to Daniel Penny, where we have prosecutors

00:42:27.460 trying to arrest heroes.

00:42:30.120 I mean, that will be the reality under Mamdani's rule here.

00:42:33.660 All right.

00:42:34.220 But now here's the kind of the question, because the New York Post ran a cover this morning.

00:42:39.080 And when I'm at Wawa every single morning, one of the first things I do is always check

00:42:43.400 the New York Post.

00:42:44.820 And they had a cover that said, basically, I forget exactly, they had some pun about Curtis

00:42:51.000 Sliwa and his beret.

00:42:53.040 And they were telling Curtis Sliwa to drop out of the race.

00:42:58.600 And there's been, you know, we did a huge episode the other day on thought crime with

00:43:03.420 myself and the team, the guys.

00:43:05.740 And, you know, we watched the debate in full.

00:43:08.340 I thought Cuomo absolutely just kind of destroyed himself.

00:43:12.540 He's sort of self-immolated like that, like Aaron Danielson outside of the White House or

00:43:17.800 whatever it was.

00:43:19.080 And then, oops, and, you know, and Mamdani, you know, he comes across very charming.

00:43:25.600 A lot of communists are.

00:43:26.740 They use this rhetoric or like, I'm just one of you when we know they're not.

00:43:29.900 And then Curtis was up there and he really stuck to the issues.

00:43:33.560 And I think, you know, really talked about quality of life for all New Yorkers.

00:43:38.600 And I thought that was a great job.

00:43:39.760 So, oh, excuse me, Aaron Bushnell, I'm being still boneless, is mentioning me.

00:43:43.680 It's Aaron Bushnell.

00:43:45.660 See, I don't even remember the guy's name.

00:43:48.140 That's how bad it was.

00:43:49.920 When you're looking at the race, does it make sense then for the New York Post to be calling

00:43:54.880 for Curtis to drop out?

00:43:56.500 Or perhaps should it actually be Cuomo who drops out himself?

00:44:01.560 Yeah, this is something we've gotten into on even our Twitter sphere.

00:44:05.300 And we were talking about this offline before I got on here.

00:44:08.300 But this is, I don't know what to make of this entire situation.

00:44:12.040 I think it's one of those things where if it's a one-to-one race, I think anyone would

00:44:16.660 really beat Mom Donnie. 0.90

00:44:17.880 But the problem is, when we're looking at a three-way race, Mom Donnie will win. 1.00

00:44:21.660 And I think there are a lot of people who, on the Democrat side, actually really do like

00:44:25.200 and support him, unfortunately.

00:44:26.680 I mean, they elected AOC. 0.98

00:44:27.900 So there's some brain-dead voters that exist in this population.

00:44:31.340 And many other, Jasmine Crockett, people voted for her, allegedly, too. 0.97

00:44:35.260 So, you know, we see this widespread in the Democrat Party.

00:44:38.820 But I think that Cuomo has no right to be here.

00:44:42.360 He lost in the primary that they had.

00:44:44.620 He lost to Mom Donnie.

00:44:46.080 And also, do we have a short-term memory here?

00:44:49.400 Because I remember 2020.

00:44:52.360 I remember what I saw in New York City in 2020 with Cuomo, okay?

00:44:57.740 What I saw in the entire state of New York with Cuomo.

00:45:00.260 He's not this savior.

00:45:01.960 He's not this amazing person.

00:45:03.120 I don't know why we're saying, yeah, okay, maybe he's a little bit better than Mom Donnie.

00:45:06.300 But he's still pretty far left and not someone who I think is a good leader of any state or city.

00:45:13.120 So at the end of the day, then, your argument would be, and this is very similar to what Curtis has said,

00:45:22.100 that actually it should be Cuomo who drops out.

00:45:24.680 Because when you look at it, Cuomo's voters could potentially move over.

00:45:29.740 If he's got Maha, if he's got upper class, if he's got people, you know, people who are working,

00:45:36.400 people who are professionals, people who have the ability to actually be successful in New York.

00:45:43.520 They've got, they would potentially move over and vote for Curtis.

00:45:47.160 But instead, you know, he's staying in and he's saying, Curtis would drop out.

00:45:51.900 Meanwhile, Curtis's voters, they're not voting for Cuomo because Cuomo was a grandma killer.

00:45:57.280 In addition to all the other things, which, by the way, Mom Dami was the one that blew him up on that on stage. 0.95

00:46:03.180 Mom Dami was the one who was hitting Cuomo on this.

00:46:05.800 So you look at a guy who's completely, again, just self-immolated, totally Bushnell-ed himself.

00:46:11.940 And I, you know what?

00:46:13.540 You've convinced me.

00:46:14.680 You've convinced me.

00:46:15.640 No.

00:46:16.460 It, Cuomo is the one who should drop out of the race and endorse Curtis Sliwa.

00:46:22.980 Yeah.

00:46:23.600 And guess what, though?

00:46:24.500 He won't do that.

00:46:25.500 I think he is in this race because he has his ego that he needs to feed.

00:46:29.720 I mean, it's exactly why he went from an ashamed governor to trying to become the mayor of the largest city in this entire country.

00:46:35.400 I mean, this is just someone who does not come across as for the people.

00:46:40.360 I watched that debate live, and as much as I wanted to sit there and say I think Mom Dami is horrible, I agree with you, what you said earlier. 0.99

00:46:46.800 He is a great speaker, and Mom Dami did a wonderful job trying to be for the people and being convincing and being charismatic and being a great actor on that stage.

00:46:55.420 And Cuomo, in my opinion, I thought looked the worst in this debate.

00:46:58.380 I mean, of course, Curtis stuck to his stuff, and I've always loved Curtis for the longest time.

00:47:03.660 Every time he's on any interview or on the news or even speaking somewhere, I make an effort to watch it because I just think Curtis is one of those really fascinating people that I love.

00:47:14.360 And I wish there was a better path to victory, and there isn't someone like Cuomo that's taking away his votes.

00:47:19.460 But unfortunately, this is a situation that we're in.

00:47:21.760 And I think the other thing we have to look at is it's too late now.

00:47:24.840 Why couldn't they have had these conversations earlier?

00:47:27.060 Why couldn't Cuomo have stopped running his ego and just gotten out of the way and realized, again, he stepped down shamefully from being governor of New York?

00:47:35.080 How do you expect to go back and become the mayor now?

00:47:38.320 It's just an ego drive, and that's exactly what he's doing.

00:47:42.000 Couldn't agree more.

00:47:43.080 We're out of time.

00:47:43.880 Paula Scanlon, where can people follow you?

00:47:46.120 Follow me on X at Paula Y Scanlon.

00:47:48.780 I don't know.

00:47:49.360 We're doing the New Jersey race.

00:47:50.560 You'll probably see a lot of that if you catch me there.

00:47:53.200 We certainly will.

00:47:54.840 Paula, thank you for your time.

00:47:56.180 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay short.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - October 21, 2025

Dissecting The Trans Psychosis and Victim Culture's Links to Violence

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