Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - July 23, 2025


DNI Sec. Tulsi Gabbard Presser on Russiagate Docs + Exclusive Interview w⧸ Rep. Luna on Epstein


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56 minutes

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175.94673

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9,918

Sentence Count

311

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

The House Intelligence Committee oversight report reveals that CIA Director John Brennan overruled senior CIA officers who challenged the intelligence assessment, stating, We don t have direct evidence that Putin and the Russian government conspired to help Donald Trump win the election.


Transcript

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00:00:50.280 Christ is King.
00:00:52.320 Which included possible criminal acts like secret meetings with multiple named U.S. religious organizations
00:00:58.960 in which State Department officials offered, in exchange for supporting Secretary Clinton's
00:01:04.940 campaign for the presidency, significant increases in financing from the State Department.
00:01:11.060 They also had documents that showed the patronage of the State Department to State Department
00:01:17.060 employees who would go and support Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.
00:01:20.800 There were high-level DNC emails that detailed evidence of Hillary's, quote, psycho-emotional
00:01:27.280 problems, uncontrolled fits of anger, aggression, and cheerfulness, and that then-Secretary Clinton
00:01:34.080 was allegedly on a daily regimen of heavy tranquilizers.
00:01:37.320 Then-CIA Director Brennan and the intelligence community mischaracterized intelligence and relied
00:01:43.720 on dubious substandard sources to create a contrived false narrative that Putin developed a, quote,
00:01:49.200 unquote, clear preference for Trump.
00:01:52.360 Brennan and the IC misled lawmakers by referencing the debunked Steele dossier to assess, quote,
00:01:58.440 unquote, Russia's plans and intentions, falsely suggesting that this dossier had intelligence
00:02:04.240 value when he knew that it was discredited.
00:02:07.600 The intelligence community excluded significant intelligence and ignored or selectively quoted
00:02:12.640 reliable intelligence that contradicted the intelligence community assessment's key findings
00:02:17.680 on Putin's alleged support for Trump.
00:02:20.680 Including this intelligence reporting would have exposed the ICA's claim as implausible,
00:02:27.200 if not ridiculous.
00:02:29.600 The intelligence community assessment omitted reliably sourced information, such as how some
00:02:34.160 Russian intelligence officials were, quote, unquote, planning for candidate Hillary Clinton's
00:02:38.640 victory, while others assessed neither Trump nor Clinton would respect Russia's interests.
00:02:45.520 As was reflected in the ODNI documents that we released on Friday, multiple intelligence
00:02:50.000 community assessments released in the months leading up to the November 2016 election
00:02:54.720 concluded that Russia had neither the intent nor capability to impact the outcome of the U.S. election.
00:03:00.320 On December 5th of 2016, the FBI and ODNI gave the House Intelligence Committee its first post-election
00:03:08.000 classified briefing in which there was no mention of Putin aspiring to elect Trump by either agency.
00:03:15.680 The Presidential Daily Brief, drafted on December 8th of 2016, stated that no Russian or criminal actors
00:03:23.120 impacted vote counts.
00:03:25.200 This document was pulled just hours before it was to be published due to, quote, unquote,
00:03:29.920 new guidance.
00:03:31.520 If it had been published, it would have been briefed to both President Obama and President-elect Donald Trump.
00:03:38.560 On December 9th, 2016, a National Security Council meeting was called to gather President Obama's
00:03:43.200 senior national security officials, which included CIA Director Brennan, then Obama DNI James
00:03:49.120 Clapper, Susan Rice, and others. Following that secret meeting, DNI Clapper's assistant sent an email
00:03:55.520 to the intelligence community with the subject line, POTUS tasking on Russia election meddling,
00:04:02.000 tasking ODNI leaders to create a new assessment per the President's request.
00:04:08.000 The House Intelligence Committee oversight report that we released today reveals that, quote,
00:04:12.160 unlike routine intelligence community analysis, the intelligence community assessment
00:04:16.720 was a high-profile product ordered by the President, President Obama.
00:04:22.480 It directed senior intelligence community agency heads and created an intelligence community
00:04:28.560 assessment limited to just five analysts using one principal drafter.
00:04:33.840 This is not something that occurs in the normal path of producing an intelligence community assessment
00:04:41.360 that reflects the views across the intelligence community.
00:04:45.520 The production of this intelligence community assessment was subject to unusual directives directly
00:04:49.920 from the President and senior political appointees, especially the former director of the CIA, John Brennan.
00:04:57.200 The House Intelligence Committee oversight report also shows how later that same day,
00:05:01.760 on December 9th, Brennan ordered the publication of, quote, unquote,
00:05:05.200 substandard reporting on Russian activities, which had previously been withheld from publication of prior assessments
00:05:12.480 because the information was judged, quote, to have not met longstanding publication standards.
00:05:18.320 Some of the information later used in the Obama-ordered assessment over the objections of veteran CIA
00:05:25.200 officers was, quote, unquote, unclear or from unknown sources.
00:05:28.800 The Intelligence Committee's oversight report reveals that CIA Director Brennan overruled senior CIA officers
00:05:37.280 who challenged the Obama-ordered intelligence assessment, stating, quote,
00:05:42.400 we don't have direct information that Putin wanted to get Trump elected.
00:05:47.440 Yet, the Obama-directed assessment was published on January 6th, 2017, which explicitly stated, quote,
00:05:53.440 quote, we assess Putin and the Russian government aspired to help President-elect Trump's election
00:05:58.720 chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him,
00:06:06.000 end of quote.
00:06:07.120 The CIA and FBI, then led by John Brennan and James Comey, expressed high confidence in this judgment,
00:06:16.400 while the NSA expressed moderate confidence.
00:06:20.080 Yet, as the report we released today shows, the ICA, the Intelligence Community Assessment,
00:06:25.280 did not cite any report where Putin indicated helping Trump win was an objective. The opposite is true.
00:06:34.800 With regards to the Steele dossier, we now know that one of the source documents that the Obama
00:06:39.440 administration used in the creation of this intelligence assessment in January of 2017
00:06:45.680 was none other than the discredited, unverified Steele dossier. The House Intel report states,
00:06:51.040 quote, contradicting public claims by then-CIA Director Brennan that the dossier was not in
00:06:56.640 any way incorporated into this intelligence assessment. The dossier was referenced in the
00:07:02.640 intelligence assessment's main body text and further detailed in a two-page assessment annex.
00:07:08.000 John Brennan lied, and he denied using this dossier in this intelligence assessment that
00:07:13.760 President Obama ordered because he knew it was discredited. It was a politically motivated,
00:07:19.440 manufactured document. He directed senior CIA officials to use it anyway.
00:07:26.240 CIA officer told the House Intelligence Committee staff as they investigated this, quote,
00:07:33.200 the director of the CIA, John Brennan, refused to remove it, and when confronted with the dossier's
00:07:39.440 many flaws, responded, quote, yes, but doesn't it ring true? Even the bipartisan Senate Select
00:07:47.120 Committee on Intelligence report published in 2020 criticized the FBI's handling of the Steele dossier,
00:07:53.120 noting its completely unverified nature and purposeful sidestepping of intelligence community
00:07:59.440 procedures in its use. Now, President Obama, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, James Clapper, James Comey,
00:08:05.840 and others, including their mouthpieces in the media, knowingly lied as they repeated the contrived
00:08:11.760 narrative that was created in this January 2017 intelligence community assessment with high confidence
00:08:18.560 as though it were fact. John Brennan, as CIA director, stated in a memo to his agency staff in December
00:08:26.000 of 2016 saying, quote, there is strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian
00:08:33.280 interference in our presidential elected election. This was reported by NBC News confirming that Brennan,
00:08:41.120 along with James Clapper and James Comey, agreed with the CIA's assessment that Russia intervened to help
00:08:46.960 Trump win the presidency. As Obama's director of national intelligence, James Clapper was tasked
00:08:52.320 with overseeing the creation of this assessment in January of 2017 by President Obama, and he expressed
00:08:59.440 confidence in its findings. In a 2018 interview with the Harvard Gazette, he talked about how he provided
00:09:07.120 Trump with the same classified assessment that President Obama received, which included the high
00:09:12.080 confidence judgment that Putin directly ordered the hacking and election interference.
00:09:17.200 Clapper then went on to add, I think they, the Russians, actually influenced the outcome.
00:09:24.560 This is a brief summary of the details that you'll find within the House majority staff's report
00:09:30.960 in their investigation into the Obama-directed January 2017 intelligence community assessment.
00:09:37.120 That leads us to the very same conclusion that we announced in the release of our documents on Friday.
00:09:43.120 The implications of this are far-reaching and have to do with the integrity of our democratic republic.
00:09:49.440 It has to do with an outgoing president taking action to manufacture intelligence to undermine and
00:09:57.040 usurp the will of the American people in that election and launch what would be a years-long coup
00:10:03.120 against the incoming President of the United States, Donald Trump. Thank you.
00:10:06.640 Thank you, Tulsi. And we do want to take questions on this topic. While the director has time for this
00:10:15.120 topic, she will leave. I'm happy to take questions on other matters after that. But if anyone has
00:10:19.360 questions for Director Gabbard, you're welcome to ask them. We'll start with our new media seat. As always,
00:10:23.920 Emily, go ahead. Thank you. And Director Gabbard, this one is for you. Do you believe that any of this new
00:10:30.000 information implicates former President Obama in criminal behavior? We have referred and will
00:10:36.160 continue to refer all of these documents to the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate
00:10:41.920 the criminal implications of this. For even former President Obama?
00:10:44.960 Correct. The evidence that we have found and that we have released directly point to President Obama
00:10:53.360 leading the manufacturing of this intelligence assessment. There are multiple pieces of evidence
00:10:58.960 and intelligence that confirm that fact. Ed, go ahead. Director Gabbard, thank you. So just
00:11:06.960 two questions, but to begin on that. The President yesterday, you've inferred that the former
00:11:12.000 President helped lead a coup. Based on what you now see, do you believe President Obama is guilty of treason?
00:11:19.360 I'm leaving the criminal charges to the Department of Justice. I am not an attorney. But as I've said
00:11:24.240 previously, when you look at the intent behind creating a fake manufactured intelligence document
00:11:32.240 that directly contradicts multiple assessments that were created by the intelligence community,
00:11:39.440 the expressed intent and what followed afterward can only be described as a years-long coup and a treasonous
00:11:46.000 conspiracy against the American people, our republic, and an attempt to undermine President Trump's
00:11:51.120 administration. The Senate Intelligence Committee spent several years looking into this and unanimously
00:11:56.720 agreed in a bipartisan fashion, Secretary of State Rubio was a member of that committee, that there was no
00:12:01.600 political interference. There was a years-long Justice Department investigation into this as well that
00:12:07.440 also concluded no political interference. So help us from a 50,000-foot level explain what do you now have
00:12:15.280 that refutes those two conclusions? Sure. I will encourage you in my role as the Director of National
00:12:20.320 Intelligence. My job again, as I said when I came into this role, was to make sure that we are telling the
00:12:27.280 truth to the American people, and that we are ensuring that the intelligence community is not
00:12:32.400 being politicized. So I'm not asking you to take my word for it. I'm asking you and the media to conduct
00:12:38.720 honest journalism and the American people to see for yourself in the documents that we've released now,
00:12:44.480 close to 200 pages that point in multiple references, multiple examples, to include comments that have
00:12:52.480 been made by senior intelligence professionals who are some still working within these agencies today
00:12:59.120 that confirm the conclusions that that we have drawn. That President Obama directed an intelligence
00:13:05.280 community assessment to be created to further this contrived false narrative that ultimately led to a
00:13:13.200 years-long coup to try to undermine President Trump's presidency. And is your belief that those two previous
00:13:17.840 investigations missed that or covered it up? I'm telling you to look at the evidence, look at the
00:13:24.320 evidence, and you will know the truth. John. Thanks, Caroline. Thanks, Director Gabbard. You declassified
00:13:30.400 these documents, if I'm not mistaken, Friday of last week, correct? We released them on Friday of last week,
00:13:36.000 the first tranche, yes. This isn't the first time that President Trump has been President of the United
00:13:41.440 States. He was president from 2017 to 2021. Couldn't the prior DNI under President Trump have
00:13:49.120 declassified these documents? And why didn't that DNI do that at that time? I can't speak to what happened there.
00:13:56.320 There were several DNIs under the the first Trump administration. President Trump faced many challenges
00:14:02.720 from those who were working in the government who sought to undermine his presidency. That's been clearly detailed.
00:14:09.440 What I can speak to is the fact that this was one of the first things that we started to investigate
00:14:17.040 here within this Trump administration and have released the results upon the conclusion of our
00:14:22.560 investigation. And then my second question has to do with what intelligence agencies around the world
00:14:28.560 have said about Russia, that they have tried to influence elections in the United States, in France,
00:14:35.360 in Germany, in the UK. Do you disagree with that? Do you believe that Russia is a bad actor as it relates
00:14:42.240 to trying to influence elections? I'll point back to the intelligence that President Trump has ordered
00:14:48.640 declassified, that we have declassified and released, that the intelligence reflects Russia's motives
00:14:56.400 values were to try to sow discord and chaos within the U.S. election, which is a clear distinction from
00:15:04.240 showing a preference for or against a specific candidate, which is what the Obama-manufactured
00:15:11.040 intelligence document alleges, that Russia preferred Donald Trump and tried to help Donald Trump get elected.
00:15:17.520 Again, going back to the most important point here, with the intent to undermine the legitimacy of
00:15:23.360 President Trump's election and therefore subvert the will of the American people who chose to send him to
00:15:28.880 the White House.
00:15:29.520 Thanks, Reagan. Thanks, Carolyn.
00:15:31.760 Director Gabbard, Reagan Reese with The Daily Caller.
00:15:34.240 You laid out that the documents revealed that the Obama administration did not publish a December
00:15:39.040 2016 presidential daily briefing that demonstrated that Russia did not steal the election.
00:15:44.080 Trump was receiving these briefings at the time because he was president-elect.
00:15:48.000 Are you of the view that that information was kept out of the briefing because then
00:15:52.480 president-elect Donald Trump wouldn't have seen it?
00:15:54.720 I don't have any documents that speak to exactly what the new guidance was that was given as the
00:16:01.520 reason for pulling that document, which, by the way, still has never been published until we
00:16:06.640 released it last week, Friday. One could assume that they didn't want President Trump to see a document
00:16:14.640 that came from the intelligence community that would contradict the Russia hoax narrative that began
00:16:20.000 through the Hillary Clinton campaign with the Steele dossier.
00:16:24.000 One more. Maybe either for you or Caroline. The President said yesterday that Obama committed treason.
00:16:31.680 Does — do you or the White House believe that the Supreme Court's immunity decision protects Obama from prosecution?
00:16:38.000 Look, I can speak to the President's feelings on this matter. He spoke to all of you yesterday in the Oval Office,
00:16:44.560 but I also spoke to him about this this morning. And he wants to see all those who perpetuated this fraud
00:16:51.200 against our country, who betrayed our country and the Constitution to be thoroughly investigated and held accountable.
00:16:58.080 And it's been, you know, 10 years of this. And I would just add, based on everything the director
00:17:04.080 has said and declassified, all of you in this room should go through it and take a look at this report
00:17:09.200 and review the intelligence because, unfortunately, that hasn't happened. And many of the people who
00:17:13.760 perpetuated this hoax — Clapper, Andy McCabe, James Comey, and many others — have been hired by
00:17:20.640 major networks in this room to go on television and continue to spew these lies, knowing that they are
00:17:26.720 lies. And if you all recall, just flashback to 2016 and the years after, the entire Trump-won presidency was
00:17:34.720 embroiled in this scandal that was perpetuated by the Democrat Party. And you had major Democrat
00:17:40.000 Party officials in this city, namely Adam Schiff, Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren, who went on
00:17:45.200 television and told the American people Donald Trump is an asset of Russia. It was a lie. They
00:17:50.240 always knew it. Hillary Clinton herself said that President Trump would be a puppet for Putin. Senator
00:17:55.520 Tim Kaine at the time called President Trump Vladimir Putin's defense lawyer. Adam Schiff stated,
00:18:00.960 And one of the worst things a lawmaker can do is to tell the American people,
00:18:04.720 I know something you don't know. It's just classified, and I can't tell you. And that's
00:18:08.240 what he said. I can tell you that the case is more than that. I can't go into the particulars,
00:18:12.560 but there is more than circumstantial evidence now. And not enough people in this room, not enough
00:18:17.840 journalists in this country pushed Adam Schiff to say, what are you talking about? What evidence do you
00:18:23.680 have? Everybody just ran with the lies. And it led to impeachments. It led to the division of our
00:18:29.760 country. Unfortunately, so many Americans from listening to outlets in this room believed in
00:18:34.640 these lies. And it's a complete scam. And it's a scandal. And the President wants to see accountability
00:18:40.960 for that. Phil. Thank you. A question for Director Gabbard. A spokesperson for former President Obama
00:18:46.400 said in a statement earlier this week, quote, Nothing in the documents issued last week undercuts the
00:18:51.280 widely accepted conclusion that Russia worked to influence the 2016 election, but did not successfully
00:18:56.720 manipulate any votes. How do you respond to critics like former President Obama and also others on
00:19:02.560 the Hill who say that the administration is conflating apples and oranges here, conflating allegations of
00:19:08.480 actual hacking of voter machines and allegations of interference generally?
00:19:12.480 I think it's a disservice to the American people that former President Obama's office and others who are
00:19:18.960 criticizing the transparency that is being delivered by releasing these documents. They are doing a
00:19:24.960 disservice to the American people and trying to deflect away from their culpability in what is a historic
00:19:33.440 scandal and negative action towards the American people and our Democratic Republic. The answer to
00:19:39.680 that statement can very clearly be found throughout all of the documents that we have released. Again,
00:19:46.880 showing that Russia has took action to try to sow discord in the election, but showed no preference for or
00:19:54.800 against any singular candidate. You've long been an opponent of weaponization in government. How do you
00:20:02.640 respond to criticism that referring Obama administration officials and even potentially the former
00:20:07.280 president is just more weaponization and this is a potential race to the bottom? I think that's a very
00:20:12.800 disrespectful attack on the American people who deserve the truth. They deserve to have faith and trust in the
00:20:20.000 integrity of our Democratic Republic, which is under bent, which has been undermined by President Obama
00:20:26.400 through his direction of this manufactured fake intelligence document, knowing that it was filled with lies
00:20:33.360 and knowing that it would and could then be used for all of the actions that came after.
00:20:39.280 And I would just add there needs to be accountability for that weaponization, Phil, that we've seen. And no one has been a victim of the weaponized government more than
00:20:48.000 than President Trump, not just because of this political scandal. You all recall his house was raided.
00:20:55.280 So I think, you know, it's very disingenuous for people to say, how dare they speak of former President
00:21:00.800 Obama about this based on evidence and based on intelligence when the former president of the United
00:21:06.000 States, Donald Trump's home was raided, when he was forced to sit in a Manhattan courtroom and many other
00:21:10.880 courtrooms across the country for crimes he never committed, when he was when he was impeached and indicted,
00:21:16.400 and the entire country witnessed that. That's the weaponization of justice.
00:21:19.840 Now the president is back because the American people see the truth. Nearly 80 million Americans
00:21:24.000 reelected him back to this office, and he believes that we need to have justice and accountability.
00:21:28.400 And I think the nearly 80 million Americans who reelected him agree with that. Caitlin.
00:21:32.880 Thank you, Caroline. Two questions for Director Gabbard, just on this.
00:21:36.880 Director Gabbard, you referenced the past intelligence reports and assessments on this, including
00:21:41.920 that 2017 one that was signed off, as Ed noted, by every Republican on the Senate intelligence
00:21:46.800 community, including the acting chair of the time, now Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who said in a
00:21:51.920 statement that they did not find any evidence of Russian collusion, but they did find, however,
00:21:56.640 is very troubling and they found irrefutable evidence of Russian meddling.
00:22:00.560 One, are you saying that he's wrong in that statement that he made then? And secondly,
00:22:04.880 what would you say to people who believe that you're only releasing these documents now to improve
00:22:08.880 your standing with the president after he said that your intelligence assessments were wrong?
00:22:12.960 Uh, well, first, I want to correct something that you stated, which was, uh, uh, citing the
00:22:18.960 Senate Intelligence Committee's report as being one in the same. I think you said the intelligence
00:22:24.000 community. The Senate Intelligence Committee has a very different function than the Office of the
00:22:28.480 Director of National Intelligence. Uh, the evidence and the intelligence that has been declassified and
00:22:35.200 released is irrefutable. Uh, I'm going to let Caroline speak to, uh, Secretary Rubio.
00:22:40.400 I'll speak to both questions first on Secretary Rubio. Uh, he put out a statement in 2020 following
00:22:46.240 that Senate Intelligence Committee report, and he said what they found is troubling. We found irrefutable
00:22:51.280 evidence of Russia meddling, which the Director of National Intelligence just confirmed for all of you
00:22:55.520 that Russia was trying to sow distrust and chaos. But what's the outrage in this that Secretary Rubio did not
00:23:01.680 say at the time the Democrats were saying at the time is the fact that the intelligence community
00:23:05.840 was concocting this narrative that the president colluded with the Russians, that the president's
00:23:10.800 son was holding secret meetings with the Russians, all of these lies, um, that were never true. And he
00:23:16.720 also said at that time, we discovered deeply troubling actions taken by the FBI under Comey,
00:23:22.080 particularly their acceptance and willingness to rely on the Steele dossier without verifying its
00:23:27.360 methodology or sourcing. The Steele dossier that many outlets in this room ran as the gospel truth,
00:23:33.040 and it was cooked up and paid for by the Clinton campaign. As for your second question, Caitlin,
00:23:37.760 I think who is saying that that that she would release this to try to boost her standing with
00:23:42.000 the president? Who has said that? Well, the president has publicly undermined her when it came to Iran.
00:23:46.320 He said she was wrong. He told me that she didn't know what she was talking about. That was on Air Force
00:23:50.160 One on camera. The only people who are suggesting that the Director of National Intelligence would release
00:23:55.200 evidence to try to boost her standing with the president are the people in this room who constantly
00:23:59.760 try to sow distrust and chaos amongst the president's cabinet. And it is not working. I am, I will,
00:24:06.640 I will just answer your question directly. I am with the president of the United States every day.
00:24:10.720 He has the utmost confidence in Director Gabbard. He always has. He continues to. And that is true of his
00:24:16.640 entire cabinet, who is all working as one team to deliver on the promises this president made. Does anyone
00:24:22.080 else have questions for Director Gabbard? And then we'll turn it over to a couple other questions.
00:24:25.600 Christian, go ahead. Yeah, thank you. Director Gabbard, two follow-ups on
00:24:29.840 questions that have been asked. You mentioned the previous DNIs during the president's first term.
00:24:36.400 One of them reports to you right now, if I'm not mistaken, John Ratcliffe. So have you not spoken to him
00:24:42.400 about why this information was not declassified during the first term? He was in that position for a very
00:24:49.040 short period of time. The work that began back then, we have picked up and absolutely completed.
00:24:55.520 We are continuing to investigate this. Additional whistleblowers are now coming forward because they
00:25:00.800 see an opportunity for the truth to come to light. And as Caroline said, for real accountability to be
00:25:06.880 brought forward. The accountability is the essential part of this. We can, we can show the truth,
00:25:12.160 reveal the truth. The accountability needs to occur to be able to start to restore that trust
00:25:17.760 in the integrity of our, of our democracy. And then just quickly, I know you said you
00:25:22.160 the charging to DOJ, but the statute of limitations on conspiracy is five years.
00:25:27.600 So what else could they possibly pursue besides treason? I think that's a great question for Attorney
00:25:32.640 General Pam Bondi. We're providing all of the evidence, all of the intelligence that we have,
00:25:38.320 both redacted and unredacted versions, referring it to the Department of Justice and the FBI.
00:25:44.000 We'll take one more. Charlie, go ahead. How credible was the information about Hillary Clinton's
00:25:48.720 power to me? The report said that it was from DNC, sourced from the DNC. Have you seen
00:25:54.960 that information? Or was, do you think that maybe Russia was overemphasizing what they had?
00:26:00.400 All I have seen is what, uh, the intelligence, uh, committee have reported through their investigation.
00:26:07.360 Uh, I think the, the, the underlying point there is, is that we understand from intelligence what
00:26:14.960 Russia said that they had. And the important point here is that if they were trying to influence the
00:26:20.560 election, uh, as President Obama and James Clapper and John Brennan, everybody said they were doing in
00:26:27.280 order to support Donald Trump's election, they would have released the most damning of that
00:26:32.320 information, some of which I detailed here. You'll find the rest in the report prior to the election
00:26:38.000 to help Donald Trump win. They specifically withheld what they had on her, the most damning information,
00:26:44.480 because they thought that she would win the election. They had plans to release it,
00:26:47.920 uh, just prior to her inauguration to, again, sow discord and chaos in America.
00:26:53.280 And if I may, uh, on Jeffrey Epstein, can you rule out that he was connected in some way to
00:26:58.960 any kind of intelligence, either foreign or domestic? I haven't seen any evidence, uh, or
00:27:04.000 information that reflects that. Uh, if anything comes before me, uh, that, that changes that in any way,
00:27:10.880 uh, support the President's statement loud and clear. If any credible evidence comes forward,
00:27:16.320 he wants the American people to see it. Great. Director Gabbard, we thank you for your time today.
00:27:21.040 I know you're a busy woman, so we'll let you get out of here, but thank you so much.
00:27:25.760 Okay. I know there's, um, many issues going on today across the world and here at home.
00:27:30.800 If you have any other further questions, I'm happy to take them. Ed, why don't you go ahead?
00:27:33.840 Yeah, thank you, Caroline. So, um, the Japan trade deal, uh, is that Japan trade deal
00:27:39.280 the start of this number of trade deals that the Treasury tax rates were going, says we're going to see
00:27:44.080 by August 1st? Uh, I think it is. I mean, as you said, uh, we had Japan yesterday, we also had Indonesia,
00:27:50.720 and we had the Philippines as well, the President announcing all three. He came in
00:27:54.880 as the closer in all three of those. I've said many times from this podium that, uh, the President's
00:27:59.520 trade team has been in active talks and discussions with many countries around the world, and you've all
00:28:04.320 been anxiously awaiting what those countries were. Now, you know, uh, three of them, and there's many,
00:28:09.200 many more to go. We have now sent 25 letters, um, to countries around the world. But just to reiterate
00:28:14.720 this Japan deal, uh, for those at home who may have missed it, Japan will now pay a 15 percent tariff,
00:28:20.800 uh, versus the reciprocal rate of 24 percent, um, that they initially had. Auto and auto parts
00:28:27.120 tariffs have been reduced to 15 percent. But the centerpiece of this deal now is the President got
00:28:33.120 Japan to commit to 550 billion dollars in investments to revitalize American industries.
00:28:39.680 And these funds will be spent at President Trump's discretion and direction into key industries
00:28:44.720 such as energy, semiconductors, critical minerals, pharmaceuticals, and shipbuilding.
00:28:49.120 And the U.S. will retain 90 percent of the profits from any investments made
00:28:53.520 by this 550 billion dollar fund. This was originally a 400 billion dollar investment that President Trump
00:28:59.520 then negotiated, uh, to an increase of 150 billion, making it a 550 billion dollar deal for the American
00:29:06.400 people. And I just want to emphasize, Ed, I see you have a follow-up, but it's very important.
00:29:10.960 Japan has agreed to open their markets to many very key, um, sectors and American-made products
00:29:17.120 that have really faced very strict, um, tariff and non-tariff barriers prior. So, um, thanks to the
00:29:22.720 President, Japan's markets will now be open to American-made products and goods. This is big news
00:29:27.440 for our tech companies, uh, and our farmers as well. On Monday, the Treasury sector is going to
00:29:32.480 Stockholm to talk to the Chinese delegation. What does the President hope to get out
00:29:36.240 of that meeting? Are there deliverables?
00:29:37.680 Ms. Um, I won't speak to any deliverables or set expectations. I'll let the Secretary
00:29:42.560 of Treasury do that. But I did speak to him yesterday about his upcoming trip,
00:29:46.800 uh, and he looks forward to continuing discussions with his Chinese counterparts.
00:29:51.200 Uh, the President, um, has ensured that we have a good continuing working relationship with China
00:29:57.440 that benefits the United States. Uh, and so the Secretary of Treasury will be
00:30:02.000 obviously discussing those key matters, but I'll let him set the expectations.
00:30:05.040 Ms. One more, if I may, um, given what the DNI
00:30:08.080 just said and laid out, does President Trump believe that President Obama should go to jail
00:30:12.400 for something? Ms. Look, the President believes that this matter needs to be thoroughly investigated
00:30:16.480 and, and anyone, um, convicted of crime should be held accountable in this country. Go ahead.
00:30:21.200 The Press.
00:30:22.480 The Press. The Press. The Press. The Press. The Press.
00:30:24.480 Ms. Good to see you, Olivia.
00:30:25.440 Ms. Good to see you.
00:30:25.760 Ms. I haven't seen you since the campaign trail.
00:30:27.200 The Press. It's good to see you. Uh, he's headed back overseas. Can you give us a sense of what the
00:30:30.880 marching orders are to some of the people he'll be meeting with, and specifically as it relates to
00:30:35.360 Gaza and ongoing talks there? Ms. Yes, uh, Special Envoy Wyckoff is headed to Europe,
00:30:40.720 where he will meet with key leaders from the Middle East to discuss the ongoing ceasefire
00:30:46.880 proposal, um, to end this conflict in Gaza and to release the hostages. These are very sensitive
00:30:54.080 negotiations that are currently taking place. I, I spoke to Special Envoy Wyckoff last night about
00:30:59.440 them. I will let him speak further on the matter. Um, but, uh, the President and Special Envoy Wyckoff
00:31:04.720 has made, has made the administration's goals clear. Um, we want this ceasefire to happen as
00:31:09.440 soon as possible, and we want these hostages to be released. Go ahead.
00:31:13.200 Ms. Carolyn, uh, a, uh, Florida federal judge refused to allow the Epstein grand jury materials to be
00:31:18.240 released. Uh, does the President want the administration or Department of Justice to appeal that ruling?
00:31:22.240 Ms. Um, that was just breaking as the Director and I were coming out here, so I haven't had a
00:31:26.240 chance to talk to the President about it. Uh, I understand there are two other requests from
00:31:30.480 the Department of Justice that are ongoing, um, but, uh, I'll let this President speak to whether
00:31:34.960 he wants to see an appeal, and the Department of Justice, I'm sure, can give you a statement on that
00:31:38.480 as well. The Press. And is he supportive of the effort to talk to Gillian Maxwell? I know that Todd
00:31:41.680 Blanchard mentioned that, uh, earlier this week. Ms. The President spoke to this yesterday,
00:31:45.520 and he said he thinks it's an appropriate idea. Kelly. The Press. What is the accountability that you
00:31:50.480 would like to see if this current President is the one who brought the case to the Supreme Court?
00:31:55.440 And Chief Justice Roberts made clear in his opinion that a sitting President's responsibilities in
00:32:01.600 office, uh, cannot lead to prosecution, immunity. So what is it the President, uh, President Trump wants,
00:32:09.840 uh, regarding President Obama, given that fact? And the Special Counsel at the time, Durham,
00:32:16.880 when that Supreme Court matter was not in effect, could have charged anyone and did not.
00:32:24.000 So on those two points, how do you respond?
00:32:26.240 Ms. Look, the President, um, has made it clear that he wanted these documents to be declassified,
00:32:31.280 he wanted the American people to see the truth, and now he wants those who perpetuated these lies
00:32:36.080 and this scandal to be held accountable. As for what accountability looks like, as the Director said,
00:32:41.120 it's in the Department of Justice's hands, and we trust them to move this ball forward.
00:32:44.720 You would agree President Obama cannot be charged based on that immunity?
00:32:48.320 Ms. Again, I'll leave that to the Department of Justice. Stephanie.
00:32:50.640 In light of the Japan deal, are sectoral tariffs now up for negotiation with trading partners?
00:32:56.240 And on a similar note, uh, are these negotiators asking for investment funds,
00:33:00.480 sort of like what Japan had agreed to?
00:33:02.160 Ms. As for sectoral tariffs, I understand that, um, the President continues to be in talks with our
00:33:09.120 Secretary of Commerce. We have made commitments on various sectoral tariffs, as you know.
00:33:12.960 Um, the Department of Commerce has initiated studies to then move forward with implementing
00:33:17.760 those sectoral tariffs. So I would defer you to them for further comments.
00:33:20.720 Good question, Tara.
00:33:21.920 Ms. Meredith.
00:33:22.800 I wanted to ask if the White House has any update on the Commerce Department employee who's been,
00:33:27.920 um, detained in or banned from exiting China and if there are any efforts, um, to get them out?
00:33:34.160 Ms. I can assure you and the American people that the Administration is actively monitoring the
00:33:39.440 this situation and engaged but typically we don't comment on individual cases like this as we are
00:33:44.480 sorting them out sure yes behind you dr harper sorry go ahead to the to the lady sitting down
00:33:50.880 in the blue yes what's your name what's your name my name is caroline also caroline voted with the
00:33:56.560 center square great um so republicans in the senate today said that they are pulling back on
00:34:01.920 legislation to impose sanctions on russia after the president said he wants to act unilaterally
00:34:07.920 can you elaborate on what the president intends to do look the president has been in very close
00:34:13.280 communication with his friends in the senate particularly senator lindsey graham on this
00:34:18.240 issue but the president has always maintained you know he's the the commander-in-chief and the
00:34:22.720 president for a reason and he has been deeply involved in this conflict since the beginning
00:34:27.920 and so any decisions that are made with respects respect to sanctions the president wants to
00:34:33.200 reserve that authority and that right to himself jasmine thanks caroline uh two questions for
00:34:39.040 you there first on the ai um does president trump support federal agencies contracting with elon musk's
00:34:45.120 ai company i don't think so no okay he wouldn't want the doj to then cancel the contract with ron i'll
00:34:52.160 talk to him about it yes just um you know obviously the developments with the epstein case with the
00:34:57.920 judge but i wonder has the white house white house council uh the doj explored any other documents
00:35:04.160 that could be released to the public um that don't have to do with that grand jury testimony um to my
00:35:11.040 knowledge the department of justice has moved forward with the request to unseal that grand jury
00:35:15.280 testimony and as you know they have also moved forward with uh interviewing uh miss maxwell which i
00:35:21.760 believe will be taking place very soon go ahead sure thanks caroline i have a question about paul
00:35:28.240 ingracia the osc nominee who faces a senate committee hearing tomorrow uh tom tillis said that he wouldn't
00:35:34.640 vote for ingracia if he came to the if a vote came to the senate floor two dozen worker advocacy
00:35:41.040 groups have said that they would you know they don't support his nomination what is the white
00:35:45.600 house planning to do to sort of turn the tide or convince legislators that they should vote for him
00:35:50.560 the white house is always in communication with members of both the senate and the house and we
00:35:55.440 stand by the president's nominees sure um in connection with the muller investigation a grand
00:36:02.960 jury indicted 13 russians um president putin has said he will never extradite those men uh given the
00:36:10.560 new information that miss gabbard has found uh what's the administration's position on that case
00:36:15.520 should those charges be dropped i don't have an update for you on that case but i'll check in with
00:36:19.360 the national security council and our team will get you something sure thank you so much so fanny
00:36:24.560 willis and jack smith separately they both charged president trump with conspiracy to defraud the
00:36:29.520 united states and a conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election and now it turns out we're confirming that
00:36:34.960 obama and his cronies were doing that the whole time in 2016 on a massive scale um falsifying documents
00:36:42.560 and having their intel agencies do this what does this what does this say about the 2020 election
00:36:50.800 and also yeah what's your thoughts on the irony here uh there is a lot of irony especially for the
00:36:56.880 party of of the democrat party who claims to be for democracy we often heard throughout the 2024
00:37:03.840 campaign they were calling this president a threat to democracy and now i think the declassification of
00:37:09.440 all of these documents proves um that they were indeed the true threat to democracy and as i said
00:37:14.560 repeatedly today there needs to be justice and accountability for that you all will hear directly
00:37:18.720 from the president later this afternoon at the ai summit here in washington dc scheduled to speak
00:37:23.760 later in a few hours so we will see you all there thank you very much
00:37:35.920 all right folks we just finished up that absolute whirlwind press briefing there from the white house
00:37:43.520 caroline levitt as well as the director of national intelligence tulsi gabbard uh releasing these emails
00:37:50.240 that talked about hillary her health her heavy tranquilizer use the involvement of the hillary campaign
00:37:57.680 and the highest levels of the white house directly to create this fake russia collusion hoax narrative
00:38:07.040 we have now congresswoman anna polina luna to react to all of this and give us an update on epstein let's
00:38:14.720 toss to that all right guys we are here with an incredible congresswoman who needs no introduction
00:38:21.120 congresswoman anna polina luna you were there with us at the turning point student action summit you
00:38:26.640 promised us more was coming out and let me just be the first to thank you and give you full credit
00:38:31.760 for that because we've heard that promise so many times before but you actually back that up not only
00:38:37.920 are we seeing traction from the ag but this massive release from the dni's office multi-day release
00:38:45.280 regarding the 2016 election i've got to get your response to everything from uh dni tulsi gabbard
00:38:51.600 yeah so um everything happening with gabbard we're actually just at the white house yesterday and
00:38:57.040 president trump had even stated what tulsi has really found and been able to release so many
00:39:01.680 questions among member of congress like first and foremost why did his former odni person not release
00:39:06.560 this information um you're seeing really two separate administrations even though it's the same
00:39:11.280 president one that's actually following through and delivering on what he wanted which is full
00:39:15.200 transparency for the american people and his previous administration that seems like they were absolutely deep
00:39:20.720 state puppets and working against the president's agenda every step of the way which to be honest
00:39:25.600 with you tulsi for releasing this information look a lot of people forget that these are also to the same
00:39:30.720 people that try to paint tulsi gabbard as a russian asset we all know that that's completely fake but
00:39:36.000 the fact that she was able to release this information not only does it give a hundred percent credibility
00:39:40.640 to president trump this is no longer a left-wing spun conspiracy theory there's evidence to back it
00:39:46.720 um i think that there needs to be arrests and i actually am doing a calling i'm calling on the
00:39:51.120 department of justice to arrest all the heads of these um intel departments that actually were
00:39:57.040 responsible for putting out this false information um it's 18 us code 1001 if you falsify a reporter
00:40:04.880 make a false statement to congress it comes up to a seven-year prison census and 250 000 in fines but i
00:40:10.880 think it just goes a lot deeper than that because you're also finding in the same intelligence reports
00:40:15.600 some stuff about hillary clinton her health um they were trying to cover up for that and then
00:40:20.560 obviously at the same time they spent over 10 years really using this one lie and working against
00:40:26.960 the american people undermining president trump's administration so right now is the time to act
00:40:32.080 we can't wait these people need to be arrested any other person would be we'd be in jail for what
00:40:37.040 they did and so this is really now on the doj and i think that congress also too the doj is not
00:40:43.360 going to act which i don't think that's going to be the case i think the doj will ask but in the
00:40:47.600 event that they don't and we are asking for information and they do not produce i will be
00:40:52.880 the first to call for an inherent contempt vote in congress i mean this is it's monumental and i'll
00:41:00.400 just say speaking of someone who worked in the intelligence community in 2016 i had the opportunity
00:41:05.920 to read the ica when it was put out obviously we didn't have this level of detail as to the
00:41:11.200 unpublished version of the ica but i i can just remember even having read the classified part
00:41:17.920 of it in congresswoman luna it made no sense whatsoever i've never seen a product that looked
00:41:22.880 like that i've never seen the intelligence community get so involved in domestic political politics
00:41:28.800 before it's certainly something that i noticed when i was there the politicization and experience
00:41:32.880 the politicization of the intelligence services um and i've i've had i've had members of the
00:41:38.480 intelligence community people that i served with people who are still serving now calling me all
00:41:43.360 weekend saying they can't believe that doors aren't getting kicked down because of this behavior
00:41:49.280 i mean look you're not wrong i think that this is really egregious and it's even crazier to see that
00:41:55.840 you know the media took this and ran with it spun it they smeared it they literally use this to
00:42:00.480 violate people's constitutional rights again the doj has to act if they don't act then this is truly a
00:42:06.720 lost country but i don't think that that's going to be the case i think that ag bondi will act on this
00:42:11.520 i think that there are good people at these intelligence agencies now that will continue
00:42:16.000 to come forward and even tulsi said that she actually was notified uh people who had worked
00:42:20.960 under the obama administration came forward because they were grossed out about how this had
00:42:25.600 taken place whistleblowers and so there's going to be more to come on this and you know people get
00:42:29.360 frustrated they say well why isn't congress doing more and you just have to remember that congress
00:42:33.520 is a legislative authority we are not the judiciary authority that's the doj and the department of
00:42:37.920 justice and so for us specifically we can do the fact finding we can make referrals but ultimately
00:42:44.240 we are very limited as far as punitive action but i do think you know president trump has stated this
00:42:48.800 is a witch hunt from day one he was right on that his supporters were right on that i would say that
00:42:53.680 because of what obama did was really the first fracture that you saw in american politics between
00:42:59.920 right and left and really destroying the civility that we had for one another in regards to politics
00:43:04.960 and so um you know he should be called to answer for what he's done and so we'll see what happens
00:43:12.720 now flipping back a little bit i know you've only got a couple of minutes before you have to run
00:43:18.160 but we talked and you and i talked so much down there at turning point the student action summit down in
00:43:22.880 tampa regarding the doj regarding epstein you've of course gone public with the destruction of fbi
00:43:30.480 material that took that took place prior to president trump taking office we've seen a lot of movement
00:43:36.400 now galene maxwell so many others where are we on epstein well i can tell you just yesterday a
00:43:42.960 member of oversight made the motion to subpoena galene maxwell and so she'll be coming in to give
00:43:48.240 deposition that's something that you know how a subpoena typically works and people are like why
00:43:53.040 isn't she coming in immediately and it's because the house is going into august recess now the senate
00:43:57.040 will be here but ultimately that motion was made shortly after the ag actually announced that she also
00:44:03.440 wanted to speak to um galene maxwell to see if she had any information on third parties that they could
00:44:09.440 basically bring charges against and so it's going to be interesting to see if galene maxwell can produce i
00:44:14.880 also think though that for galene maxwell she's trying to get a pardon and i don't think that
00:44:18.720 she should get pardoned i think that she belongs in jail because of her sex trafficking crimes um
00:44:23.680 but you know it doesn't mean that the american people don't deserve to hear what she has to say
00:44:27.360 so that's the first thing obviously we want transparency the second thing is is that you're also seeing that
00:44:32.080 you know there's a push to release information and i think i do believe that um ag bondi will be probably
00:44:38.880 releasing files pertaining to the investigations etc and i haven't changed my stance on that i still
00:44:45.680 think that that's something that you know there's there's no reason to hold back on that and so i'm
00:44:51.440 just continuously saying we should just be full total transparency how we did with jfk
00:44:56.800 well i think that's right and also where i'm just from my perspective uh again having served in the ic
00:45:02.240 and uh you know i wasn't a prosecutor but i was at guantanamo bay and you know people say to me well
00:45:07.280 what if if people use osie's to ask us well how do you know what they're saying is true how do you
00:45:11.680 know they're not just lying to you and of course anyone who's locked up they've got information but
00:45:16.960 they also have their motivations so this i think is going to be something and i and what steps do you
00:45:23.040 think that will be taken to verify any information that she does put out testimony things like this
00:45:30.880 because of course obviously she's got a lot of motive a lot of people think that she wants to cut
00:45:34.560 a deal with the doj well yeah and that's that's exactly has been my kind of belief from the
00:45:39.600 beginning like why did she choose now remember if you even just look at a simple search on x from
00:45:44.880 the democrat party they made not one mention of jeffrey epstein when joe biden was office in office
00:45:50.240 literally the entire time in fact it was a democrat senator that went to block marcia blackburn's
00:45:54.880 motion to actually get um jeffrey epstein's flight logs right so that's the first thing the second
00:46:00.800 thing is is that you know according to whistleblower testimony and i know that there's an investigation
00:46:06.480 into this right now or that it's actively being looked into is that it is very likely the evidence
00:46:11.440 was destroyed on the way out under the former deputy director of the sbi's leadership and so
00:46:16.560 that's something that they obviously and look i'm not a forensic investigator but i would think that
00:46:20.960 there would be some way where they would be able to tell whether or not there's been tampering of
00:46:24.560 evidence so ultimately i think that that's why the doj has said look credible information absolutely
00:46:29.840 release it uh that's something that the president has advocated for as well as unsealing those grand
00:46:34.640 jury indictments um not just indictments excuse me grand jury testimony which the american people
00:46:39.040 should also see and then i would say literally anything pertaining to the investigations as a
00:46:43.520 whole whether it's jeffrey epstein or glee maxwell that should be all out there and searchable for the
00:46:47.680 american people and the fact that you make what you're saying put it out there and make it searchable
00:46:54.720 i mean i i've said this repeatedly but you you look at what the director of national intelligence
00:47:01.200 tulsi gabbard has done here she she doesn't overhype things she doesn't uh play up things that don't later
00:47:07.920 pan out she waits she bides her time she says there's going to be announcement she makes the
00:47:12.960 announcement and then boom the release comes out and by the way congresswoman i have to say that's
00:47:17.200 exactly the same thing that you have done in your various task force releases that have come out thus
00:47:22.880 far and i just want to say to you and and and both of you i we really appreciate and our audience
00:47:29.280 certainly appreciates the meticulous nature and the serious nature that you take as pertains to
00:47:34.480 these serious investigations into actual crimes thank you thank you we appreciate that and you're
00:47:39.600 going to see more to come i i can announce this now but uh we just got word also to just pertaining to
00:47:44.560 the jfk investigation a lot of people were like why does this matter what matters because of what you're
00:47:48.720 seeing right now unchecked corruption and the intelligence agencies can result in people
00:47:52.880 getting killed and it can result in presidents getting killed and you're seeing this literally
00:47:56.480 it's kind of weird because it's serendipitous timing that all this is flushing out two very
00:48:00.880 different points in history but two very similar outcomes and so um we're working to get out the
00:48:05.280 facts but we also were made aware that um the russian government is going to be releasing their
00:48:09.840 independent investigation into um lee harvey oswald for the american people to also help kind of close
00:48:17.520 any questions that that might they that they might have on the jfk assassination and that's important
00:48:22.400 because in the 90s um the assassination review board tried to tame those files and that they were denied and
00:48:27.840 so we are now able to access them wow that's incredible and this is something where you know it
00:48:33.920 makes me think of sort of the you know east berlin and east germany when the stasi uh you know
00:48:39.520 after the wall fell they were they allowed people to go in and poland you're allowed to do this as
00:48:43.520 well and go and look up your own file but uh the soviets writ large haven't always been willing to
00:48:48.640 do so congresswoman anna polina luna i know you've got to run we've when this all happens we've got to
00:48:53.840 get you back on perfect thanks jack we'll talk soon god bless we'll talk very soon folks congresswoman
00:49:00.480 anna polina luna her word is as good as bond you can take that to the bank we will be right
00:49:08.960 back here human events daily real america's voice do not touch that dial or roku or amazon fire or
00:49:16.720 whatever the kids have these days jack is a great guy he's written a fantastic book everybody's talking
00:49:28.560 about it go get it and he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event
00:49:34.080 and we're going to turn it around and make our country pray to you amen
00:49:41.600 all right jack so we're back here human events daily washington dc now we were planning on having
00:49:48.400 a longer conversation about this today but uh dni came out and dropped all this on us so have to deal
00:49:55.520 with that but there was an inflection point over the weekend regarding the bombing of a catholic church
00:50:02.400 which was damaged in bombing in gaza and over the weekend there was this huge firestorm online
00:50:10.400 regarding this uh many christians rallied around the bombing of a church and yet there was also some
00:50:19.360 controversy regarding it so i want to get on dr taylor marshall here he's got his incredible new book
00:50:27.280 um christian patriots that's coming out my mom read it she wrote the the i think first review
00:50:32.240 or full-length review of it up on uh humanevents.com but dr marshall tell us why was this church that was
00:50:41.680 bombed or you know i will say damaged in a bombing because you know they're saying it wasn't targeted i
00:50:46.480 i personally i really hope that it wasn't actually targeted why did this become such an inflection
00:50:52.320 point online cardinal pete tabala someone that you and i have talked to talked about uh many times
00:50:58.160 actually went there and performed the mass i think within days after this bombing why did this touch
00:51:04.880 touch off so many people well it's not the first example of this i believe this is the
00:51:11.040 fifth or sixth uh two women were actually shot by idf uh allegedly snipers and they said that was an
00:51:17.600 accident as well so there's there's been a number of accidents and i think people in the west
00:51:21.280 and christians in the west are patient and they're gracious and they say oh it's an accident but
00:51:25.520 when we see accident upon accident upon accident and the front of a church is shot and three people
00:51:32.320 die ten are injured including the pastor uh it it kind of got everybody vocal saying why do these
00:51:39.280 things keep accidentally happening because there's not many churches in gaza i think there's three active
00:51:43.760 churches in gaza um the eastern orthodox church has been hit the catholic church has been hit and people
00:51:49.520 realize this isn't just a place where people are worshiping they're also taking refuge in there
00:51:54.000 because people have lost their homes or neighborhoods um supplies so uh yeah people died and people online
00:52:01.440 on x social media they're saying wait is this just another accident how come these accidents keep
00:52:06.960 happening and then it kind of you said inflection point you know joe berry over at the babylon b
00:52:13.200 you know he had a tweet i don't know if you have it but in a sense he said you know these i hate to
00:52:18.320 say this people aren't going to like it but these people who are taking refuge in holy family catholic
00:52:24.320 church in gaza support hamas and boy that just really blew the roof off pun intended um for
00:52:32.640 christians all over the world saying wait a second these christians had their church shot three died
00:52:38.400 10 injured pastors injured and you're saying well you know they're basically hamas supporters so wink wink
00:52:46.160 the insinuation i read is they kind of have it coming they are a military target and that's just
00:52:52.160 completely unacceptable um you know from a political point of view and and from a from a christian
00:52:59.440 point of view that that uh someone who represents a christian organization like babylon b is going to
00:53:05.440 cast shade like that and at the end of the day i mean jack you're a catholic i'm a catholic we've kind of
00:53:11.040 seen unfortunately you know parallel to this the idea that well catholics and eastern orthodox
00:53:17.680 aren't real christians and in at the end of the day a lot of these dispensationalists will say well
00:53:25.280 a jew in israel is more judeo-christian than a catholic or an eastern orthodox and so unfortunately
00:53:32.880 it's kind of caused this division and people are drawing up lines and it's very unfortunate
00:53:41.200 yeah i remember seeing what this this a couple years back where there's some headline and it was
00:53:46.800 one of these these you know sort of christian but not really very christian magazines out there and it
00:53:52.160 was on twitter and they said something about like they said something along the lines of uh like
00:53:59.680 christianity today or one of these types and they said something along the lines of well you know
00:54:03.760 we you know we we have to carry on in the tradition of the apostles because we don't have the churches
00:54:11.360 that they founded still today and then one of the actual churches in ephesus responded to them
00:54:17.600 on on twitter it said nope still here still here guys i'm not sure not sure where you where you got
00:54:24.640 that from and and and it's just a really really bad uh you know it's it's just it's it's not just
00:54:31.040 bad theology it's bad history right there are christian communities that have been there really
00:54:35.840 since the time of christ and that's what this all comes down to yeah i mean we're talking about uh
00:54:42.000 christianity the church is two thousand years old and i think there's a lot of people who like you
00:54:46.720 said they forget that um and so they don't have a visible unity they don't have a visible manifestation
00:54:53.440 of the kingdom of god and so i think you know since the early 1900s mid 1900s they look over there and
00:55:00.160 they see a nation state called israel and they read their old testament and they're like oh this nation
00:55:06.800 state started in 1948 is israel from the bible and then they build an entire theology on that and then
00:55:13.680 you know bad theology always leads to bad outcomes and so at the end of the day this is a theological
00:55:20.240 discussion amongst christians um and and who receives privilege and who does not receive
00:55:25.840 privilege right and at the end of the day you know i'm happy to have that discussion but we're also
00:55:32.400 talking about matters of war and peace and when i see a church get bombed i'm going to say you know
00:55:36.320 what you gotta stop bombing the churches dr terryl marshall tell everyone where they can get the book
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00:56:16.720 in now ladies and gentlemen as always you have my permission