Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - July 17, 2025


EMBRACE MASCULINITY - Lifting Men Up In A World That Pushes Them Down


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Jack Posobiec sits down with Brayden Sorboer on the sidelines of the Student Action Summit to discuss his new book, "Embracing Masculinity: Lifting Men Up in a World That Pushes Them Down."

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00:00:26.680 All right, Jack Posobiec, very excited to be here with Brayden Sorboer on the sidelines
00:00:34.420 of the Student Action Summit here in Tampa, Florida, Turning Point USA.
00:00:39.060 Brayden, welcome to the show.
00:00:40.720 Thank you for having me.
00:00:41.520 Tell me about the book here, Embracing Masculinity.
00:00:44.380 Yes, so Embrace Masculinity, Lifting Men Up in a World That Pushes Them Down is a guide 0.99
00:00:48.560 for godly living in America today.
00:00:50.120 It is the perspective of a 23-year-old Christian, now Catholic, homeschool graduate on the decline
00:00:56.140 of the West and how best to address it.
00:00:58.080 And we start with the destruction of the nuclear family, which we know is the most powerful 1.00
00:01:01.960 unit in the history of the world.
00:01:03.560 It's the reason why countries are built.
00:01:05.320 It's the reason why America was created, was to pursue these ideals of morality, goodness,
00:01:11.180 and family.
00:01:12.480 And so I wrote the book sort of as a guide, as a handbook for young men trying to traverse
00:01:17.320 the political terrain and the world at large, where we've told people for generations that
00:01:22.220 their inherent values, the desires that they know deep down to be true, are wrong and something
00:01:26.380 to be ashamed of.
00:01:27.520 And so growing up in that world, in Hollywood, my parents were both actors, I saw specifically
00:01:32.360 the desecration of what was once holy with the family unit.
00:01:35.620 I mean, my parents have been married for 27 years now, and I think 10 years is a golden
00:01:39.340 anniversary in Hollywood.
00:01:40.860 They don't expect you to...
00:01:41.600 Yeah, Hollywood is not exactly known for that.
00:01:43.880 Not at all.
00:01:44.660 And so I wanted to speak to my generation, because we have great minds in the conservative
00:01:49.700 sphere.
00:01:50.180 We have the Charlie Kirks, the Jordan Petersons, what you've been doing.
00:01:53.440 We don't have a 23-year-old man who has lived experiences in Gen Z that can relate to the
00:01:59.420 other generation.
00:02:00.120 And so that's why I wrote the book.
00:02:01.240 So let me...
00:02:01.940 Let's ask that, and I want to tease that out a little bit, because we talk about this,
00:02:06.080 and I always tell people, they say, well, I'm not Gen Z, but they say, what do you care
00:02:13.000 so much?
00:02:13.380 Because, well, this is the next generation that's coming online.
00:02:15.200 They're coming online now.
00:02:17.200 And at the end of the day, I shouldn't tell Gen Z what to think.
00:02:21.820 I want to listen.
00:02:22.960 I just want to listen.
00:02:24.020 And it seems to me like nobody's listening to them, whether it be Millennial Gen X and
00:02:29.720 certainly the Baby Boomers.
00:02:31.040 Just nobody wants to listen, because unfortunately, America has changed.
00:02:36.280 The game has changed.
00:02:37.500 There's been so much shift under everyone's feet.
00:02:40.780 And Gen Z is now sort of coming into the workforce, coming into the world for the first time, having 1.00
00:02:46.460 to stand on their own two feet and saying, wait a minute, you know, where's this American 0.74
00:02:50.200 dream that we were promised?
00:02:51.840 That's actually...
00:02:52.400 Do I have it a little bit?
00:02:53.260 Am I close?
00:02:53.880 You're right on the money.
00:02:54.760 The very first chapter of the book is titled, The America Your Parents Knew Is Dead.
00:02:58.460 Yeah.
00:02:58.640 And so I explore the fact that the American dream no longer exists.
00:03:01.940 I mean, you look at a graduating salary for a college student in 1969 was roughly $10,000
00:03:08.060 to $11,000 a year.
00:03:09.340 If we account for inflation, that's between the $80,000 and $100,000 range today.
00:03:13.300 The graduating salary of a college student in 2025 is $60,000 to $80,000 grand.
00:03:17.540 So you are making almost the low end of that spectrum, except for the fact that because
00:03:22.060 of inflation, the cost of goods and living has skyrocketed.
00:03:25.880 So the dollar doesn't go as far.
00:03:27.100 The way that I put this is that while the costs for everything have gone up over the
00:03:32.720 last 30, 35, 40 years, the salaries have pretty much stayed the same.
00:03:37.740 Yes.
00:03:37.960 So you're making the same amount of money.
00:03:39.980 Meanwhile, the cost for healthcare and the cost for rent or, you know, trying to buy a
00:03:45.020 home, it's astronomical.
00:03:46.580 How many people do you know your age who own their own home?
00:03:51.020 No, very, very few, if any at all.
00:03:52.980 That's the problem is we live in this renter's paradise.
00:03:55.140 Right.
00:03:55.660 And it's miserable because you're telling these people that all you have to do.
00:03:58.720 Paradise for the landlords.
00:03:59.360 It is.
00:03:59.840 It is.
00:04:00.840 All you have to do is pick yourself up by your bootstraps and everything will be good and
00:04:04.140 your problems will be solved.
00:04:05.060 But that's not the case anymore.
00:04:06.240 You need two incomes just to support a family of one or two kids.
00:04:09.700 I mean, 20% of parents with more than two kids are foregoing.
00:04:12.440 They're skipping an entire meal during the day just so that their kids can eat.
00:04:15.600 That is not the American dream.
00:04:17.060 That's not what our founders envisioned.
00:04:18.940 Yeah.
00:04:19.520 I'll just kind of a personal story.
00:04:20.920 I haven't mentioned this on air, but I had some, uh, some oral surgery, um, you know,
00:04:24.560 recently and, uh, you know, I said this toothache that wouldn't go away.
00:04:27.640 Couldn't figure out what's going on.
00:04:28.740 It go in, had a root canal that went bad on me.
00:04:31.040 It's like, oh, you know, you're in, you're in just dentist hell for a little bit.
00:04:33.780 Trying to, are they upselling me or is this real?
00:04:36.020 You know?
00:04:36.760 And, uh, so I go in, I go in, I go to the, you know, the specialist.
00:04:39.860 They say it comes in and they say, oh, but you know, you know, your family's been using
00:04:42.920 a lot of the insurance this year because I have kids.
00:04:45.140 And I said, okay, all right, we've had work done.
00:04:47.220 And they say, well, you're going to have to pay for this out of pocket.
00:04:49.260 So I'll pay your out of pocket, whatever, whatever, no problem.
00:04:51.280 They go, how much does he got?
00:04:52.420 That'd be, uh, it's $2,000, like $2,000 just for a toothache, right?
00:04:58.120 To, to fix a root canal.
00:04:59.500 Yeah.
00:04:59.920 And, and I said, no, look, my family's been very blessed.
00:05:02.860 I've been very blessed, but I sit there and say $2,000 for, for a toothache.
00:05:07.020 And I say, no wonder there's so many people that are turning towards radicalism now
00:05:12.700 because the system is causing them to be radical and then people want to blame it on, oh, well,
00:05:18.360 they're watching too much YouTube or, oh, they're, you know, going, playing too many video games
00:05:23.020 or, you know, whatever it is.
00:05:24.640 I said, no, I think it's just the system has screwed them over.
00:05:28.600 And so because of these situations, they, and by the way, not only while all that's going
00:05:34.400 on, they can see people getting rich off of seemingly nothing.
00:05:37.460 They can see the Silicon Valley billionaires and the amounts of money that they're getting.
00:05:42.060 They can see the financialization of Wall Street.
00:05:44.160 And they say, wait a minute, these guys are living large.
00:05:46.340 And meanwhile, I can't pay for a toothache.
00:05:48.140 So something's got to give.
00:05:50.440 And yes, this is why, unfortunately, you can get Azor and Mamdami elected in New York City, 0.92
00:05:56.360 who I do believe will be the next mayor of New York.
00:05:58.520 I do too.
00:05:59.140 And by the way, in the same city where you had Luigi Maggioni, who was a Zoomer who decided 1.00
00:06:04.500 to take issues or matters into his own hands and is supported by a lot of people because
00:06:10.340 of these tensions and pressures.
00:06:11.740 Yeah, and I don't say this as a call to action or anything, but that is what's starting to
00:06:15.760 happen.
00:06:16.160 And that is, unfortunately, the turn that the world is taking where people are, like you
00:06:20.140 said, taking matters into their own hands and doing it in the worst possible way because
00:06:25.220 we lack morality as a foundation for our society.
00:06:27.660 We've made morality subjective.
00:06:29.200 I was just talking to a young lady who is an atheist and she doesn't believe in God.
00:06:32.640 She doesn't have any foundation for her morality. 1.00
00:06:34.580 And I said, but where do you get the differences between right and wrong?
00:06:37.240 Where do you have it?
00:06:37.900 Obviously, we know St. Paul writes in 1 Corinthians.
00:06:39.940 He says the law is written on the hearts of man.
00:06:41.700 But people who reject that and decide to find their own, quote unquote, morality end
00:06:47.600 up leading astray on the path.
00:06:49.420 I always go to, I love talking to atheists and say, why don't you just steal stuff? 1.00
00:06:52.500 Yeah.
00:06:52.840 Why don't you just steal stuff?
00:06:53.660 If you want something, why don't you just steal it?
00:06:55.240 Go ahead.
00:06:55.540 Just take it.
00:06:56.020 Yeah.
00:06:56.220 What's wrong?
00:06:56.520 You're not supposed to.
00:06:57.820 Why not?
00:06:58.180 You're an atheist. 0.76
00:06:59.220 There's no moral code.
00:07:00.200 If there's no God, there's no morality.
00:07:01.380 If there's no morality, then why not just steal everything you want all the time?
00:07:04.080 Yes.
00:07:04.580 And it devolves into this system that we have today where you said people are becoming
00:07:07.660 famous for nothing.
00:07:08.400 You have girls on OnlyFans selling their bodies, calling it prosperity, calling it girlbossing. 1.00
00:07:12.920 We gave women the right to vote 100 years ago.
00:07:14.880 The 19th Amendment was ratified.
00:07:16.300 And we said with the feminist movements, you can be anything you want. 1.00
00:07:19.340 And this is a statistic that will shock a lot of people.
00:07:21.480 10%, 1 in 10 women today in Gen Z are on OnlyFans selling themselves.
00:07:25.780 And that's the ones who answered the question.
00:07:27.300 It can't be 10%.
00:07:27.900 OnlyFans has 1.4 million active users, 1.2 million of which are 28 and younger.
00:07:33.180 10% of young women are currently selling themselves.
00:07:36.240 We said you can be anything you want, and they chose to be prostitutes. 1.00
00:07:39.400 And we're applauding it.
00:07:40.720 We are uplifting it as good, as virtuous, as empowering, when all that does is destroy
00:07:45.340 them.
00:07:45.860 It ruins the ability to form bonds with people.
00:07:48.640 It destroys your ability to pair with a mate and actually have a successful marriage.
00:07:52.920 We know that the higher you go up in a body count, especially for young women, the harder
00:07:57.060 it is to actually survive in marriage.
00:07:58.880 Because what happens is the genetic makeup of your brain changes, and it shifts, and
00:08:03.740 you begin seeking more and more and more.
00:08:05.400 And that's what we have with the self-gratification culture.
00:08:07.480 We have normalized young people never being happy. 0.99
00:08:11.080 You can go on Tinder, sit in the comfort of your home, and swipe and swipe and swipe, and
00:08:15.020 the app will tell you you have 1,000 matches.
00:08:16.520 You have 100 matches.
00:08:17.760 The best thing may be one swipe away, so you're never satisfied.
00:08:21.360 Social media glorifies this idea of the perfect relationship where you have curated images
00:08:26.200 online, where it's a misconception of what life actually is.
00:08:29.260 Well, because we have so much...
00:08:30.660 But hold on.
00:08:31.740 This is just people pursuing their pleasures.
00:08:34.240 And so because people are just pursuing their pleasures, certainly that would mean then that
00:08:38.700 our society should probably be...
00:08:41.300 We should be seeing depression decrease.
00:08:44.300 We should be seeing people's happiness increase.
00:08:46.600 We should see therapy hours decreasing, pharmaceutical use decreasing, SSRI use decreasing, suicide
00:08:54.040 use decreasing, crimes and deaths of despair decreasing.
00:08:58.900 That's what's happening, right?
00:08:59.940 Exactly.
00:09:00.400 It's not like 75% of women are on one form of antidepressant or another currently, where
00:09:04.380 50% of men have currently...
00:09:05.340 So we have the most depressed society, but also the most pleasure-seeking society at the
00:09:09.300 same time.
00:09:09.760 It's amazing, isn't it?
00:09:10.480 It's so interesting how dying to oneself is actually the way to find happiness, which is
00:09:14.940 what we're told to do in the Bible.
00:09:16.180 Right.
00:09:16.640 To pick up the cross, carry Christ and deny oneself.
00:09:19.660 I'm a firm believer that...
00:09:21.400 And even, you know, I'm a cradle Catholic, you know, we're Polish, we pretty much only
00:09:24.840 come in one flavor.
00:09:26.960 But, you know, it's something that it took me a long time to understand that the things
00:09:33.500 that the Bible prescribes as sinful are also actually bad for you.
00:09:39.760 Yes.
00:09:40.120 Do you hear what I mean?
00:09:40.780 Yes, I do.
00:09:41.260 And that is the problem is we've...
00:09:43.180 With the society that we have, the people in charge have told everybody that those desires
00:09:47.960 are inherently, they're just natural.
00:09:49.420 They're human.
00:09:49.980 They should be explored.
00:09:50.780 Right, right.
00:09:51.280 And like you said, what we're seeing is an increase in mental health problems, an increase
00:09:56.360 in suicide, an increase in depression.
00:09:58.100 I just wrote an article that therapy replaces confession and it doesn't work.
00:10:01.980 No.
00:10:02.160 Because confession, you go to a priest.
00:10:03.780 I had my first confession this Easter, right before the vigil.
00:10:06.460 Congratulations.
00:10:06.840 And holy...
00:10:07.940 Welcome home.
00:10:08.440 Thank you, sir.
00:10:09.320 I appreciate it.
00:10:10.480 The patron saint is Justin Martyr, so I chose theology and apologetics.
00:10:14.640 There you go.
00:10:14.860 And so, I tell people...
00:10:16.080 I just sponsored someone and he chose Thomas Aquinas.
00:10:19.480 Fantastic.
00:10:20.300 I have a feeling my little sister will convert this next vigil and I'll actually be helping
00:10:23.460 teach RCIA, which makes me just ecstatic.
00:10:26.720 But I tell people that confession replaces therapy because at confession, you go to a priest
00:10:30.200 who's acting in persona Christi, which is in the person of Christ for those who don't
00:10:33.220 know.
00:10:33.820 And the priest is given the ability to forgive sins in John chapter 20 by our Lord himself.
00:10:37.340 It's the first thing he did after he resurrected.
00:10:39.660 He was trying to show the significance of it and people just as Protestants, which I was
00:10:42.860 raised as, we forego it.
00:10:44.520 We go, this isn't relevant.
00:10:45.480 We don't actually need it because we read the Bible and interpret it how we see fit.
00:10:48.540 Sola fide, sola scriptura, you know, the five solas.
00:10:51.300 And so, what I tell people is therapy doesn't actually beget change because a therapist has
00:10:55.060 no reason to heal you.
00:10:56.260 I wrote a whole chapter...
00:10:56.940 So, therapy is confession without God.
00:10:58.220 It's confession without God and it's actually complacent.
00:11:01.140 So, I wrote an entire chapter called The Big Pharma Industry, where a cured patient is
00:11:04.980 a lost customer.
00:11:05.720 So, if I'm a therapist, I want to sit there and say, well, yeah, you don't need to take
00:11:08.880 responsibility for what you've done.
00:11:10.020 That's your childhood trauma.
00:11:11.140 That's your past.
00:11:12.080 That's the other people who hurt you.
00:11:13.560 You're damaged.
00:11:14.240 You're beyond repair.
00:11:14.960 Whereas, confession calls you to be better.
00:11:17.260 It calls you to change.
00:11:19.000 You know, and I mean, that's literally in the name.
00:11:21.700 Confession and reconciliation, of course, as the name of the sacrament.
00:11:25.920 So, you must reconcile yourself with God because you have committed wrong.
00:11:31.000 And so, this is the first point of confession is therapy is, oh, I want to go and complain.
00:11:36.180 Confession is right off the very bat, from the very start, you have to admit, I was wrong.
00:11:42.240 Yes.
00:11:42.560 And you have to admit that in the presence of God.
00:11:44.400 Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned.
00:11:45.960 Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned.
00:11:46.940 It's been an extra amount of time.
00:11:47.980 It's been my last confession.
00:11:49.200 And you make your act of contrition.
00:11:51.080 And so, it's all about contrition.
00:11:53.440 And the point of contrition, and of course, this is Catholic theology, and I understand
00:11:58.560 that, you know, not everybody, I'll put it this way, not everyone understands it, right?
00:12:03.300 There's a Fulton Sheen, the great Fulton Sheen, once said that there are so many people who
00:12:08.400 hate Catholicism, but don't actually know what Catholicism is.
00:12:11.060 And they hate what they think it's not.
00:12:13.320 And it's this idea that in order to fully embrace Christ in communion, you must be within
00:12:22.260 a state of grace.
00:12:23.020 And so, to receive a state of grace, you must reconcile yourself and reconcile your sin with
00:12:28.280 God prior to that.
00:12:29.880 This is why, as children, for example, so people, I remember when people, I had this debate
00:12:34.040 going, this is, okay, back when Biden was still in office, and they said, they said, why
00:12:38.400 do you say Biden shouldn't receive communion?
00:12:40.040 Because, you know, you're denying him the presence of Christ.
00:12:43.320 He said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:12:44.560 He's denying himself the presence of Christ through his public sin.
00:12:48.880 And so, what I'm saying, I'm denying himself, of course I deny communion to a lot of people.
00:12:53.780 I deny communion to my own children.
00:12:55.360 Yes.
00:12:55.700 I deny that, right?
00:12:56.820 So, my children, who are four and seven, have never received Eucharist at this point.
00:13:00.620 Yes.
00:13:00.800 Right?
00:13:01.000 So, my son, my older son is just, I think, on the cusp of being able to.
00:13:05.560 I feel like he's ready.
00:13:06.740 Okay.
00:13:06.960 I feel like he's ready for it now.
00:13:08.560 He'll be going into second grade next year, so that's really the year that, you
00:13:13.280 know, that it'll happen.
00:13:14.660 I feel like he's pretty much there where he can start the process.
00:13:17.680 But, prior to communion, you have to go through reconciliation.
00:13:21.600 Yes, to be in a state of grace.
00:13:22.660 And I like to explain it to Protestants with the whole theology aspect of penance, reconciliation,
00:13:27.220 is essentially me, if I wrong you, right, and I apologize and I ask for your forgiveness
00:13:31.600 and you forgive me, I've already received that forgiveness.
00:13:33.900 Right.
00:13:34.040 And I decide to buy you lunch or do something just to make myself feel better.
00:13:38.260 The temporal and eternal consequences of sin.
00:13:40.540 The eternal's already taken care of.
00:13:42.000 The temporal, the me feeling better and fixing that relationship even more, comes from penance,
00:13:46.640 comes from, you know, that kind of aspect.
00:13:48.060 Yeah, I mean, you put it into physical terms, you know.
00:13:51.060 Yeah.
00:13:51.440 If you break a window and you say, I'm sorry, okay, you're forgiven.
00:13:55.680 But the window's still broken.
00:13:57.040 Yeah.
00:13:57.260 The window still needs to be fixed.
00:13:59.220 And who should pay for that window?
00:14:00.840 Well, the person who broke it should.
00:14:02.100 Yes.
00:14:02.240 So the debt still remains.
00:14:03.900 Yes.
00:14:04.280 And so I love that aspect of theology and explaining it, like you said, with Bishop Fulton Sheen.
00:14:08.280 And so you take all this back.
00:14:09.640 This is what reconciliation, this is what Christ gave us.
00:14:13.960 And it's this incredible, very powerful sacrament.
00:14:16.760 Yes.
00:14:16.960 And it's a process that you must go through that in therapy culture, you're really not
00:14:21.960 getting because they don't ask you to take accountability for your own actions.
00:14:25.440 You put it on your mom and dad.
00:14:26.960 You put it on your spouse. 0.58
00:14:27.940 You put it on society or something.
00:14:30.480 And the answer is drugs.
00:14:32.200 Yes.
00:14:32.540 The answer is drugs.
00:14:33.620 We are an overly medicated society.
00:14:35.560 And we're seeing, obviously, the decline of that.
00:14:37.820 People are unhappy.
00:14:38.700 People aren't getting married.
00:14:39.780 They aren't making friends.
00:14:41.000 They aren't lasting in the workforce.
00:14:42.560 They aren't lasting in relationships.
00:14:44.200 The problems are tenfold.
00:14:45.780 We have, through the slow whittling of morality in this country, destroyed everything that built this place.
00:14:55.900 Everything that America used to stand for.
00:14:57.900 Well, let me ask you this then, because, and it's interesting, by the way, you mentioned, I'll just say on the medication part, my wife, she comes from Eastern Europe.
00:15:06.480 So, you know, for a lot of the things that we're talking about, even though she's been in the U.S. for quite some time now, it still just seems so far into her.
00:15:15.820 Because when she hears about the medication, she said, you're on what?
00:15:19.740 Yeah.
00:15:19.920 You guys are on these powerful medications?
00:15:21.940 It's just, I don't know anyone back home who's on anything like this.
00:15:25.800 We just don't have it.
00:15:26.640 It doesn't exist.
00:15:27.500 And she goes off on the food as well.
00:15:29.820 She's big into the, she works with Maha Action and does some stuff there.
00:15:33.100 Because, you know, she's just from a world where none of that exists. 0.99
00:15:35.940 Yeah.
00:15:36.080 Where it's just, stuff is growing and it's brought to you and that's it.
00:15:38.580 There's no, you know, Monsanto and GMOs and the rest of it.
00:15:40.880 And so when you're looking at a society like that and you talk about embracing masculinity, I said to, I've said for a long time, and I've said what I was on Tucker and I've said to others, that the most masculine word in the English language is the word no.
00:15:59.560 It's the word no.
00:16:00.120 And I've thought for a long time that this is the, probably the highest role of men in society is the word no.
00:16:11.520 And to say no.
00:16:12.440 Yeah.
00:16:12.660 That when these ideas come out and it's, oh, this new thing and it's popular, we're going to do it.
00:16:17.280 And it's men stop saying no.
00:16:19.160 And men, to be masculine, look, it doesn't mean just going to the gym and, you know, getting shredded and, you know, no offense.
00:16:29.600 No, no, no, I'm taking it.
00:16:30.860 And, you know, but I mean, like, that's physical strength.
00:16:34.040 Yeah.
00:16:34.260 Which, yeah, you see a ton of that.
00:16:36.600 On social media, you see a ton of that.
00:16:38.060 But what we've lost is what you're talking about, the moral strength.
00:16:41.600 And you don't see this moral courage anymore to just say no to the things that men know are obviously wrong.
00:16:48.880 And I'm sorry, guys, but I'm going to do the most radical thing I always do is I agree with the feminists because they say they say all they say all the problems in society are men's fault.
00:16:58.080 And I say, yeah, they are.
00:16:59.600 They are men's fault. 1.00
00:17:00.460 Weak men.
00:17:01.040 Because men have allowed it to get this way.
00:17:03.320 Yes.
00:17:03.720 And so I actually dive into that.
00:17:06.500 There is the second chapter is called the future is patriarchy and the war between the patriarchy.
00:17:10.580 So there will always be a man in charge.
00:17:12.940 Whether or not he is good or bad is the determining factor.
00:17:16.020 And so right now we have bad patriarchs running everything and slowly destroying men. 0.98
00:17:20.400 And there's three ways that they do this.
00:17:21.900 One, they harness the power.
00:17:23.220 Think, you know, Pharaoh in Egypt harnessing the power to build the pyramids.
00:17:26.340 Two, they pacify the men.
00:17:28.120 Bread and circuses, the Coliseum, even the NFL, NBA today.
00:17:31.740 Fan duel.
00:17:32.300 Fan duel.
00:17:32.740 The last way is to kill them.
00:17:34.760 If they can't make them passive, if they can't harness the power, they're going to kill them, which is where we're at in America today.
00:17:38.840 Think abortion and think pornography. 0.84
00:17:41.060 We have the physical and the spiritual murdering of men.
00:17:44.520 So they do not see a reason to stand up and fight for what they believe.
00:17:48.220 I touch on this.
00:17:49.220 I say it doesn't matter if you can deadlift 500 pounds if you are unwilling to stand up for what you know to be true.
00:17:56.840 And so I love to tell people that you need to become physically dominant.
00:18:02.000 You need to become a threat and you need to become formidable.
00:18:05.020 That doesn't mean you need to take steroids and become a jacked IFBB pro bodybuilder.
00:18:09.120 It means you need to become capable.
00:18:11.520 Because when you become physically capable, when you become assertive as a man, you become less agreeable.
00:18:17.780 You are more likely to think for yourself.
00:18:19.640 There's scientific studies to back this up.
00:18:21.420 The physical prowess of somebody and their critical thinking capabilities go hand in hand.
00:18:26.100 And so when a society is weak, they become agreeable and complacent, which is what we've come to.
00:18:31.200 Well, you know why that is, right?
00:18:32.700 Because when you're physically weak, then your only way to provide physical security for yourself is through the crowd, is through the group, is through consensus.
00:18:42.700 And so this group collective security.
00:18:45.400 So I'm secure physically because I'm protected by the group, which is also why you don't want to think for yourself.
00:18:51.540 Because to think for yourself means you might be outside the group.
00:18:53.700 And if you're thinking for yourself, now you're outside the group, now, oh, what I've said is not safe, therefore, I might be ostracized from the group.
00:19:01.300 Now I'm going to lose my physical security.
00:19:03.020 However, if you have a male who is physically able to defend themselves, they will consider themselves more willing to not just, by the way, think for yourself, but act upon those thoughts.
00:19:14.800 Right?
00:19:14.940 So it is the action as well as the thought.
00:19:17.640 Just go, oh, I think freely.
00:19:18.740 I think freely.
00:19:19.360 Really?
00:19:19.560 Okay.
00:19:19.800 What are you doing with that?
00:19:21.140 Like, have you actually, have you acted upon it?
00:19:22.980 Have you said anything?
00:19:23.820 And believe me, I say all sorts of things that, you know, that get me in trouble on a regular basis.
00:19:29.320 And I'm sorry, but like that's what I've always done is I've lived my entire life.
00:19:33.060 I don't care who I'm with.
00:19:33.900 I don't care how rich you are.
00:19:35.000 I don't care how powerful you are.
00:19:36.020 I am the same way that I am.
00:19:37.320 If I ask anybody, I could be down at Mar-a-Lago.
00:19:39.380 I could be up in New York City on Wall Street meeting dinner with billionaires, whoever it is.
00:19:43.180 I am the same way to everybody that I always am because I'm going to be true to myself.
00:19:47.280 And I try to be true to God.
00:19:49.040 And so the idea being then is that you must be both physically and, the point is you don't want to be physically weak.
00:19:57.340 Yes.
00:19:57.480 Right?
00:19:57.700 That's what the real danger is, is being physically weak.
00:20:00.760 And so when, to kind of bring that back in, you know, when we talk about, you know, patriarchy, patriarchy.
00:20:06.920 I say, well, you know, here's what I talk about in my family, right?
00:20:13.880 Myself, my wife, my kids.
00:20:16.320 And when the kids are without boundaries, I notice that's when they get unruly.
00:20:24.760 Yes.
00:20:24.960 That's when they start fighting each other.
00:20:26.740 They start getting upset.
00:20:28.100 They start bounding around.
00:20:29.140 They start going nuts.
00:20:30.500 And when they go to mom, mom's there for the compassion, the nurturing, the love.
00:20:36.260 But when dad's around, dad's role is boundary.
00:20:40.160 Serious.
00:20:40.600 Dad's role is it's time to get serious.
00:20:43.240 And look, I love my kids.
00:20:44.220 I play with my kids all the time.
00:20:45.460 But they know.
00:20:46.920 They know if they get out of line.
00:20:48.220 And I just, I give them the look.
00:20:49.580 And if I give them the look, they stand up a little bit straighter.
00:20:53.600 Just a little bit.
00:20:54.380 And they say, and you know, my wife will say, well, how come they don't respond to me that way?
00:20:58.240 And it's like, you're 5'3".
00:21:00.100 You know?
00:21:01.000 Well, that's the divine order.
00:21:02.460 Right.
00:21:02.680 It's not because you're white.
00:21:03.360 And that's how it is.
00:21:04.340 Exactly.
00:21:04.760 That's how it is.
00:21:05.500 And that's what I write.
00:21:05.520 It's not because the woman is less valuable than the man.
00:21:08.380 Of course.
00:21:08.580 Women, Christianity is the only religion to uphold women as equal. 0.96
00:21:11.900 No other religion in the history of the world has had women as anything other than a second class or even lower citizen. 1.00
00:21:16.980 Christianity is the only religion to uphold women as equal.
00:21:18.980 And so I like to say that same value, different duties.
00:21:22.900 Exactly.
00:21:23.480 God took Eve from Adam's rib.
00:21:25.080 In a different direction.
00:21:26.140 Exactly.
00:21:26.620 God took Eve from Adam's rib so that they would be equal, right? 0.79
00:21:29.220 Not from his head so that she would lord it over him.
00:21:31.560 Not from his foot so he would trample over her.
00:21:33.240 From next to his heart to be loved by him.
00:21:34.960 From next to under his arm to be protected by him.
00:21:37.680 Jesus is not less than the Father because he submitted to the will of the Father and put himself, allowed himself to be put on the cross.
00:21:43.980 We know Jesus could have gotten off the cross at any moment.
00:21:46.120 We know this, but he submitted to the will of the Father for the benefit of the universe and the divine order that has been implemented from its conception.
00:21:54.420 That is how marriage is.
00:21:55.480 There is a divine order in the universe where we are equal with different responsibilities.
00:21:59.800 And when we actualize that, what we do is we create something godly and beautiful.
00:22:06.180 And when it comes down to it, you know, you can read every page of the Bible.
00:22:09.880 And I'm sorry to all the feminists out there. 1.00
00:22:13.340 There's a reason it says God the Father.
00:22:14.940 It's true.
00:22:16.680 And that's just it.
00:22:17.540 And I tell people, like you said with your kids, when the Father looks at the kids, the kids straighten up.
00:22:22.300 We have given God away and we can become unruly.
00:22:25.760 We do whatever we want because we don't want the responsibility of acting.
00:22:29.920 And I tell people, God has children, not grandchildren.
00:22:33.020 It is our duty to bring people to that light, to bring people with that love.
00:22:37.200 We can't force anyone to convert.
00:22:38.740 I can show you the truth, but you are going to be the one who has to accept it.
00:22:41.800 You are going to be the one who has to put those limitations on yourself because you understand it's for your greater good.
00:22:45.940 Your kids respect you and do what you say because they know deep down that even if they're like, you know, oh, I want to be unruly.
00:22:51.340 I want to, you know, say no to dad or whatever.
00:22:53.160 I know that he cares for me and has my best interests at heart.
00:22:55.520 So I'm going to do what he says because you've shown them that.
00:22:58.400 It's the same thing with God.
00:22:59.960 And you see this as well.
00:23:02.980 You see this with people as they age.
00:23:06.340 I see it with people even when I meet.
00:23:07.920 You can, I've gotten to this point now.
00:23:09.980 It's something where, I don't want to say who said this to me, but someone very high profile in sort of the media world said,
00:23:16.820 you know, I can always tell when I'm, when I, within a few minutes of meeting somebody, what kind of relationship they have with their father.
00:23:24.240 Yeah.
00:23:24.600 I can, I can tell that almost immediately.
00:23:26.320 And it said this to me recently, and I've been thinking about that more and more.
00:23:29.540 And I said, you know what?
00:23:30.160 It's so true. 0.84
00:23:31.180 And it's, it's such a way to re it really does divide people.
00:23:36.220 And it really is something that where it stands out that you can see someone that, that father's relationship with them and the way the father raised them and formed them,
00:23:44.940 it shows throughout their entire life beyond when they're, you know, beyond when their, their, their father's gone and passed from this mortal coil.
00:23:53.380 So I'd like to say, I can see that you have a pretty good relationship with your dad.
00:23:56.660 I do.
00:23:57.020 He's a great guy.
00:23:57.820 I love him dearly.
00:23:58.620 I, I, I love that point specifically because unfortunately, when you said earlier, every problem goes back to the men being problematic.
00:24:06.520 It's true.
00:24:07.320 A poor father leads children astray.
00:24:09.760 So we have a society now of arrested development.
00:24:13.240 We have a society where no one grows up.
00:24:15.060 And unfortunately you have children raising children.
00:24:18.720 There's a, Oh, my kids are my buddies.
00:24:20.320 My kids are my pals.
00:24:21.740 We're going to go to the new Marvel movie.
00:24:23.560 We're going to go to whatever, you know, I was going to mention movies at some point, you know, but it,
00:24:28.380 but you know, I love going to movies with my kids.
00:24:29.720 I love going to movies with my kids.
00:24:31.280 We do it all the time.
00:24:32.360 But the point is, is, but you know what we do actually?
00:24:34.540 We also, we, I love dissecting the movies with the kids.
00:24:37.100 I'll say, Hey, what was, you know, who was the protagonist?
00:24:39.700 Who was the antagonist?
00:24:40.940 You know, what was the climax?
00:24:42.300 What was the, and, and they're little, but like, I, I, I asked them to think about these things as they watch the movie.
00:24:46.720 It's not just a bunch of random stuff happening on screen.
00:24:49.320 You know, it's, it's a story.
00:24:50.680 And how does the story work?
00:24:52.020 Did the story make sense?
00:24:53.500 You know?
00:24:53.800 And, and the point being is that, you know, when you live in a society, again, of these soft men who many of which are raising their, their own children, it's, or, or in some cases you have kids that are raised without a father at all.
00:25:07.240 And it's horrible that you get the society that we have today.
00:25:10.500 Yeah.
00:25:10.660 And it goes all the way back to the destruction of the nuclear family, because what is a man's duty is to take care of his family, right? 0.65
00:25:17.300 Longevity is the greatest legacy that we can leave as men.
00:25:21.540 And so when we took that away from men, we took away their desire to succeed.
00:25:26.800 And so unfortunately, my generation now has to fight, now has to take this battle without the guarantee of a wife and kids.
00:25:37.300 I mean, that's all I want in life is to leave a legacy behind.
00:25:40.080 And I remember being, you know, even before I had my wife and kids, I said, what would you, what would you want to be successful in life?
00:25:46.860 And I always said, uh, have a wife and kids and make enough money that I don't have to send them to government school.
00:25:52.420 You know, and that's it, that's it, that's it for me, you know, and, and I talk about this a lot, but one thing that I would add to all of this is that it didn't go away on its own.
00:26:01.380 And this is key, is that there were deliberate infiltrations, operations, perversions, deflect, whatever you want to call it, that were done to this country, predominantly starting in the 1960s.
00:26:14.540 You can go back further to a number, a number of eras in our, our history, but the deliberate action, I really do say took place in the 1960s and on forward to divide our country up and pit the genders against each other, to pit the races against each other, to create new genders and pit them against each other. 0.75
00:26:34.660 And more and more and more, and just to, number one, what was, and what was the first thing they did?
00:26:39.660 They took God out of the public square.
00:26:42.080 So when they took God out of the public square and, and, and inevitably what they were able to do was replace him over time with their own religion.
00:26:49.740 They did. Christianity is a marriage, marriage is a Christian institution is what I tell everybody, and the government made it a state institution.
00:26:57.020 It made it a state religion. And so we added no fault divorce. We took the Bible out of schools. 0.98
00:27:01.000 We gave people no reason to be proud of the nation they came from, and we destroyed what it meant to be American because the idea of America was you could come from anywhere and be anything.
00:27:09.320 You work hard, you fight, and you have a chance of succeeding better than anywhere else in the world.
00:27:13.960 And we took that away from young men. And because of it, like you said, people don't want to grow up.
00:27:17.520 I call them the Peter Pan Neverland Lost Boys. They're just over on the island refusing to, you know, peek through adolescence.
00:27:23.660 And the problem is we have to take a stance somewhere, which thankfully Gen Z is doing. 1.00
00:27:29.360 I mean, we see with all the people at this event, I'm sure you see it everywhere you go.
00:27:33.100 I do, you know, coming to Turning Point, you know, over the years.
00:27:36.220 And it's been amazing because, you know, it's like the kids who were the Turning Point high school chapter leaders and members, you know, years ago are now college graduates.
00:27:49.000 And suddenly they're so active. They're so online. They totally get the issues.
00:27:53.860 They totally understand what's happening. And it's just incredible to see.
00:27:58.340 And it's this huge force that I really believe is going to take the country back.
00:28:01.960 By the way, you know, Nietzsche referred to what you're speaking of as the last man.
00:28:07.060 So he said that this will be the last man at the end of nihilism.
00:28:11.300 People think that Nietzsche was a nihilist, but he wasn't. He was worried about nihilism.
00:28:14.540 And he saw that nihilism was coming. And actually what kind of drove him mad was he saw the world without that.
00:28:19.840 When Nietzsche wrote God is dead, because it was God is dead because we've killed him.
00:28:23.860 And and so he saw that even though that he wasn't necessarily a believer, what he said was the social impacts on this will destroy
00:28:31.540 everything. And you're going to end up with these men who never grow up, who don't care about society,
00:28:37.640 who don't care about legacy, who only care about themselves, their physical appearances.
00:28:42.600 They are constantly, you know, glossing themselves in the mirror and looking after themselves, the pretty ones.
00:28:49.140 And that will be the last man, the men who never grow up or accept any responsibility for themselves.
00:28:54.760 And this is what's so fascinating about Nietzsche is here's a guy who's, you know, not even a Christian, 0.80
00:28:58.280 but who's writing about all of the social impacts. And he he saw this coming 150 years ago.
00:29:03.860 Yeah, he did. And that is that's a great point, because it's so true even today.
00:29:08.260 I mean, this is what I truly believe to be our last chance at saving this country,
00:29:12.980 because if this generation of Gen Z doesn't step up to the plate and take the fight to the left and take the fight to the people in charge,
00:29:19.260 then we fall as America. We become something entirely different.
00:29:22.600 And we've seen it time and time again, how communism wrecks a country.
00:29:25.700 So when you have candidates like Zoran Mamdani being received with open arms by young people,
00:29:30.580 especially young liberal women, it breaks my heart to a degree. 1.00
00:29:34.260 But the benefit, the plus side is there are people who are willing to fight.
00:29:37.320 The Archdiocese of L.A. had a 34 percent uptick in new converts this past year,
00:29:41.220 which was doubled from last year as from another 30 percent uptick.
00:29:44.520 So we have people who are returning to Catholic and Orthodox tradition,
00:29:47.820 the deep theology for the benefit of tradition for those values.
00:29:52.580 Why would you say, you know, and I say this as a cradle Catholic,
00:29:56.380 but I do see more and more converts to Catholicism, some Orthodoxy,
00:30:03.100 but it's really Catholicism, the Latin Mass.
00:30:06.080 You know, these things seem really appealing to Gen Z. Why is that?
00:30:09.520 Well, it's because we're seeking tradition in a broken world.
00:30:12.280 The country and the entire globe has taken morality and made it subjective.
00:30:18.220 And so in looking for truth, I look at Protestantism now as a Catholic.
00:30:23.140 I mean, I was Protestant my whole life.
00:30:25.020 Protestantism is like a dry, barren desert.
00:30:27.280 The tenets of it that we have today have been around for less than three centuries.
00:30:31.180 I look at Catholicism, especially coming as a Protestant.
00:30:34.280 It was like I was walking into a jungle with a Swiss army knife.
00:30:37.560 The depth, the history, everything was there for the past 2,000 years,
00:30:42.240 unchanging, guided by the Holy Spirit, just like Christ promised his apostles.
00:30:45.420 And so that is incredibly appealing because I realize that there's something real there.
00:30:50.320 Christ said that the church would not fail.
00:30:52.200 The gates of Hades would not prevail against it, which was not a defensive position.
00:30:55.140 A lot of people hear, oh, Hades is going to push against.
00:30:57.380 But no, the gates were meant to be stormed.
00:30:59.480 It was an offensive position that Christ was dictating to his church.
00:31:03.160 When he said, I will make you, Matthew 16, he says,
00:31:05.720 you are Peter and on this rock I will build my church and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.
00:31:09.420 He was telling the church to go on the offensive.
00:31:11.660 And so a lot of my generation is realizing that.
00:31:13.720 And that's the difference between maybe a lot of the cradle Catholics versus the Gen Z converts. 0.71
00:31:18.280 The converts are fueled with fire. 0.78
00:31:21.420 We're adamant about pushing this.
00:31:22.840 And I'll say as well for folks out there that as a Catholic, I've always,
00:31:29.620 and I was just at the Vatican for Pope Leo's installation as Pope.
00:31:34.740 And, you know, it was, you know, we had the Vatican passes and all,
00:31:39.480 but that doesn't mean we turn a blind eye to the issues in the church either.
00:31:44.120 Not at all.
00:31:44.400 And that's why, so myself and others, my brother, you know, we've been some of the first to call out the abuses,
00:31:51.200 to call out the problems, to call out the bad priests, the bad bishops, covering up for obviously sinful behavior,
00:31:57.080 and to cover up what we call the, or excuse me, to expose what we call the infiltration of the church.
00:32:04.360 And guess what?
00:32:05.480 Even the 12 were infiltrated, right?
00:32:07.300 They weren't.
00:32:07.720 Satan was even infiltrated.
00:32:09.560 God, Judas on there.
00:32:10.760 And so for folks who think that, you know, oh, well, we just blindly, you know, follow.
00:32:15.840 No, far from it.
00:32:17.120 Absolutely far from it.
00:32:18.340 So as Catholics, it's incumbent on us to call out our, to clean up our own house and get our own house in order 0.82
00:32:24.960 before we go around and say anything to anyone else.
00:32:27.740 It's so true. 0.84
00:32:28.620 That's why Judas was part of the 12. 1.00
00:32:30.040 It's not like Jesus didn't know Judas would betray him, but God allowed Judas, 0.78
00:32:34.080 Jesus allowed Judas to remain in the 12 apostles to show us that there would be problems within the church,
00:32:38.700 but that the doctrine of the teaching of the church would remain unchanged.
00:32:43.040 And Judas had free will.
00:32:44.060 He did.
00:32:44.440 People overlook this.
00:32:45.340 There's that, there's that long we could get into the theological.
00:32:47.540 Calvinist, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:48.480 Well, did Judas, you know, was Judas really acting on God's plan because he, you know, God, Jesus needed to be crucified?
00:32:55.720 No, Judas had free will.
00:32:56.700 Yeah.
00:32:57.060 We all have free will.
00:32:58.100 We all have a choice.
00:32:59.420 You can choose to sin, you can choose to not.
00:33:01.420 He made his choice.
00:33:02.780 Okay.
00:33:03.040 He made his choice and that's why he is where he is.
00:33:05.420 Yeah, exactly true.
00:33:06.400 And so, like you said, it's important to call out the problems within our own church.
00:33:10.700 Matthew 7, judge not lest ye be judged.
00:33:13.180 And then there's an entire guideline on how to judge properly, right?
00:33:16.560 Take the plank out of your own eye before you're helping your brother with the speck in his.
00:33:20.260 But we're still called to help our brother with the speck in his eye.
00:33:22.780 Yes.
00:33:22.980 That's a call to action.
00:33:23.920 A lot of people read the first judge not and they go, oh, there's the first.
00:33:26.300 It's like, no, there is a call to action for us to help do better.
00:33:30.220 And that starts within our own church.
00:33:31.500 And by the way, this was the position of Christians throughout almost all of history.
00:33:37.860 Yes.
00:33:38.620 And that's something where, you know, I just want to throw back to so many folks and, you
00:33:43.640 know, we have listeners who are, you know, Catholic and Protestant and everything else.
00:33:46.720 But I always just point out that this was always the position of Christians throughout
00:33:51.560 so much of history.
00:33:52.700 This idea of, oh, you're being judgy.
00:33:54.480 You're being judgy.
00:33:55.600 I said, nobody used to believe that for thousands of years.
00:33:58.540 Yeah, no, exactly.
00:33:59.940 And so I love to tell people that, look, for all of Pope Francis's, people had disagreements
00:34:05.000 with him over everything.
00:34:05.740 He reformed the church within the internal problems.
00:34:08.040 They did a great job of that.
00:34:09.160 I share this statistic.
00:34:10.660 The abuse cases within America in the Catholic church was less than 200, if I'm not mistaken,
00:34:16.780 for the year 2023.
00:34:17.860 You know how many were in the public education system?
00:34:20.540 Over 29,000.
00:34:22.240 At least, yeah.
00:34:22.960 Over 29,000.
00:34:24.360 It's funny how Hollywood isn't making movies about that.
00:34:26.640 They're not.
00:34:27.180 Isn't that weird?
00:34:27.340 It is weird because the public school doesn't condemn it like the church does.
00:34:30.920 There are bad people in the church, but the church condemns it vehemently.
00:34:33.740 That's so odd.
00:34:34.940 Exactly.
00:34:35.320 That's so peculiar.
00:34:37.180 Why wouldn't Hollywood be making huge movies about all...
00:34:42.020 Because I see it every day I go to look at the news.
00:34:44.940 There's some teacher who's done something else.
00:34:47.740 By the way, I'm the first one.
00:34:50.080 I condemn every single one if there's a priest, if there's any...
00:34:52.540 Whatever.
00:34:53.100 Any sinner, any demon who's got in there, of course, absolutely.
00:34:57.040 But when we look at where the actual issue seems to be today, it seems to be much more
00:35:02.260 in the schools.
00:35:03.020 And that's why the young generation is turning Catholic. 0.92
00:35:05.160 That's why we're pro-America.
00:35:06.340 We want America to be put first.
00:35:07.780 We want to fix this country.
00:35:09.120 We can't love our neighbor if we don't love ourselves first.
00:35:11.940 And so what we need to do is we need to fix the internals of America so that we can better 0.66
00:35:15.680 help everyone else.
00:35:16.860 And I get that stance.
00:35:17.800 Yes, I wholly do.
00:35:18.780 But it has to start at home.
00:35:20.020 And that's why so many young people, myself included, prioritize American interests first
00:35:23.960 and foremost.
00:35:24.580 That's why I wrote this book.
00:35:26.100 Brayden Sorbo.
00:35:27.000 Tell people again where they can get the book, what it's called, and what it's about.
00:35:30.260 The book Embrace Masculinity, Lifting Men Up in a World That Pushes Them Down.
00:35:33.920 You can find me online on X, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, all the places, at Brayden Sorbo.
00:35:38.080 And you can get the book, sorbostudios.com.
00:35:42.060 Congratulations, man.
00:35:42.820 God bless.
00:35:43.100 Thank you.
00:35:43.200 God bless.
00:35:43.220 Thank you.