Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EP 535： PORTLAND JURY RULES AGAINST ANDY NGO IN ANTIFA ASSAULT CASE, DOJ SEARCHES TRUMP TWITTER ACCOUNT

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00:02:30.120 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events live from Washington,

00:02:34.320 Jack Posobiec here.

00:02:36.320 November, August 9th, 2023, Anno Domini.

00:02:40.840 Folks, do you understand now that there are parts of this nation that are no longer governed

00:02:48.440 by the Constitution?

00:02:50.680 There are parts of this world in which we live in where demonic forces are rising up.

00:02:59.940 This is a spiritual war that we're in.

00:03:01.680 I understand that 2016 level energy is rising, but we've seen news both out of the West Coast

00:03:12.600 today where one story, Elon Musk, we're going to get into this more, but Elon Musk has just

00:03:18.920 been fined $350,000 by the Department of Justice for refusing to give access

00:03:26.980 to Donald Trump's Twitter account to Jack Smith and the special counsel.

00:03:34.440 We're working on getting a copy of that subpoena, and we will get a copy as soon as possible.

00:03:40.320 We'll get reporting on what exactly it was that they were after.

00:03:43.540 But more to the point, and we're going to have an intrepid journalist on later in the show

00:03:50.220 today, Portland, Oregon, where Andy Ngo was attacked and targeted and attacked multiple

00:03:57.180 times.

00:03:57.900 It's on video.

00:04:00.140 And a jury in Portland decided that Antifa shouldn't be liable for those attacks.

00:04:08.700 This is the same jurisdiction where just a few years ago, right down the street, 57 nights,

00:04:20.320 Antifa laid siege to the federal courthouse in Portland.

00:04:24.580 Now they're in there.

00:04:25.460 They're threatening jurors.

00:04:27.220 They're threatening journalists, smashing cars.

00:04:33.740 And the judges don't care.

00:04:35.200 The judges want it to be this way, want us to have to live like that.

00:04:42.660 I've told you before to get out of cities.

00:04:45.040 You must run out of cities.

00:04:48.440 And then you got these Republicans sitting around.

00:04:51.720 And yeah, I said it, and I was on Glenn Beck this morning.

00:04:54.680 They want to do the Marquesa-Queensbury rules.

00:04:58.280 They want gloves on.

00:05:00.420 Oh, let's be fair.

00:05:01.500 Let's write another memo.

00:05:02.600 No, let's take it.

00:05:04.140 No, hardball.

00:05:06.680 If Hunter Biden committed a crime in a red jurisdiction, charge him.

00:05:12.160 Go after him.

00:05:13.740 We know he was driving around Arizona.

00:05:16.420 We know that he was going through multiple other red states, red jurisdictions.

00:05:22.060 Get it done.

00:05:23.640 Just get it done.

00:05:25.240 Kentucky, wherever it is.

00:05:26.620 I don't care.

00:05:28.740 You must employ the system shock strategy.

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00:08:16.980 I want to bring in here Richard Barris because as all of this insanity is going on, the insanity of Portland, the insanity of the DOJ trying to go after Trump's Twitter account, I think we're starting to see the numbers in the polls reflected back, Republicans, Independents, because what's really going on here, Rich, what's really going on is that people can see it's gone too far.

00:08:41.560 It's all gone too far, and then you're going after a guy like Trump who has this connection with the base that is not going to be shaken.

00:08:52.220 It's just not going to be shaken.

00:08:53.560 When you're doing all these things, it's only going to galvanize people further.

00:08:58.220 Rich, is that what we're seeing in the new numbers?

00:08:59.900 We now have new numbers, Jack, that are post the last indictment, and let's be clear, this last indictment was their pun intended trump card.

00:09:08.820 So if there was going to be any deterioration, you would expect you would see it.

00:09:13.400 It's not there.

00:09:14.260 And again, I just don't know, Jack, what people did expect from this particular indictment since we've already seen almost 40 counts between Alvin Bragg and Jack Smith.

00:09:27.320 So it's not that it surprised me.

00:09:29.820 I did wonder whether they would get some kind of fatigue, but I think you're just dead on.

00:09:34.440 Presidential elections still are A-B tests, and the more people find out about Joe Biden, it's like, so this guy's administration is persecuting this guy for that?

00:09:45.840 You know, I mean, if you're a normie, that's kind of how you see it.

00:09:49.140 And also why Republicans, I was listening to your last segment, Republicans should be ashamed of themselves.

00:09:56.680 They should have already been moving forward with impeachment proceedings.

00:09:59.520 You're not going to get a conviction, but if you want your guy to win, then you open up this dialogue, this conversation.

00:10:05.700 You show the American people by forcing mainstream media to not ignore the Biden bribery stories and everything that comes with it.

00:10:12.680 Then it becomes even more evident to the American public, independents included, why they are persecuting and prosecuting Donald Trump, right?

00:10:22.000 Who the general public like him or love him still believes that he's not one of them.

00:10:27.060 So, you know, you're telling a very simple story like that.

00:10:31.400 And now that we do have all of this new data, you know, it's very clear.

00:10:35.820 It's not hurting him.

00:10:36.960 He remains the strongest Republican presidential candidate against Joe Biden by far.

00:10:41.700 It's not even that close.

00:10:43.620 And despite some of the questions we've heard from statewide polls, New Hampshire, that was, will you vote for him in prison?

00:10:50.840 Will you vote for him if he's convicted?

00:10:52.220 The bottom line is, you know, even if he's convicted, most Republicans, of course, are going to vote for him over Joe Biden.

00:11:00.620 There's just no, come on.

00:11:02.960 I'm even seeing in some of this data, it's 70% of Republicans said yes.

00:11:08.340 Even if Trump was in prison, that included, I think it was in the premise, like 45% of independents, not just convicted, even if he were actually behind bars, which I'm not entirely sure if we are going to go.

00:11:21.120 I haven't decided yet whether I think that the regime is willing to do that.

00:11:25.140 I asked Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:11:26.160 He said he thinks they will.

00:11:27.700 So credit to him on that.

00:11:28.920 I agree.

00:11:29.400 I don't know.

00:11:30.980 I just don't know if they're willing to do it yet, because I've said before, that's what blows this country up, right?

00:11:38.040 That that would just absolutely throw this country into complete chaos.

00:11:41.840 It would burst the Republic apart at the seams.

00:11:44.740 I don't know.

00:11:46.020 I just I part of me thinks they're not really that crazy, are they?

00:11:49.980 I mean, Jack, I'm I everything I've seen, you know, last six years or so, I'm really leaning toward that.

00:11:57.480 I don't really think they care if they destroy the country as long as they can rule over the rubble.

00:12:01.840 You know what's left.

00:12:03.540 I really you know, I really do think that they're living by, you know, it's better to rule in hell than serve in heaven.

00:12:10.440 Kind of a premise.

00:12:11.500 True.

00:12:11.940 Which is which is sad.

00:12:13.500 But, you know, the numbers like that are encouraging because I I tell people this, it's kind of more than political polling.

00:12:20.780 You don't even have to get in the weeds on some of this stuff.

00:12:23.140 It's human nature.

00:12:24.220 Americans really love the underdog.

00:12:26.540 They've always loved the underdog story.

00:12:29.040 And this is so blatant.

00:12:31.540 I really think you have to be a partisan.

00:12:34.220 And when we look at independence, 30, 35 percent in polls, the truth is, even among that group, many still lean to one side or the other.

00:12:41.740 So when we're looking at the truly persuadable middle, nine to 14 percent, they know what this is, Jack.

00:12:48.820 They know what this is.

00:12:50.520 And it's never happened in their lifetime.

00:12:52.760 Many of them tell us they couldn't they can't believe it's happened in their lifetime.

00:12:57.320 So it's very off putting.

00:12:59.020 It's not a good look, especially when you're expected to be beaten.

00:13:03.200 It's not a good look to to, you know, think about, you know, consider putting your your opponent.

00:13:08.380 So that actually hurt Trump in 2020.

00:13:10.940 It did.

00:13:12.920 That's a good point.

00:13:13.800 That's a very good point, actually.

00:13:14.800 Perception.

00:13:15.300 Didn't seem willing to do that.

00:13:16.820 Right.

00:13:17.000 Because Republicans need to, you know, constantly wish casting.

00:13:21.380 You've got people like Kennedy up there.

00:13:22.700 Tick tock.

00:13:23.280 The sealed indictments.

00:13:24.000 Tick tock.

00:13:24.340 Two more weeks.

00:13:25.560 Whereas the the Democrats don't have to.

00:13:28.440 They don't need copium.

00:13:29.620 They don't need hopium.

00:13:30.460 Right.

00:13:30.920 They they can sit there and watch their political opponents be arrested time and time again.

00:13:36.260 And that's why, you know, I'll give a shout out to Elon Musk for being willing to take

00:13:40.620 this three hundred fifty thousand dollar fine for refusing to comply with the special counsel's

00:13:45.860 search warrant on Trump's Twitter account.

00:13:48.400 They were looking for access to it.

00:13:50.220 We don't know quite yet exactly what all the details are on it.

00:13:54.140 But, you know, huge shout out for Billy New Willard taking on the gym with that.

00:13:57.700 But at the same time, Rich, you told us that there was there was something in the data,

00:14:02.040 specifically in this premise poll that a lot of people were missing.

00:14:05.360 Break that down for us beyond the prison side.

00:14:07.760 What are you seeing?

00:14:08.540 Yeah.

00:14:09.300 So we all have also been seeing this and I'm still researching, but at least October of

00:14:15.400 twenty twenty one, we started to see this and I got curious.

00:14:18.080 So I look back and I found some evidence of it in Quinnipiac polling and CNN polling.

00:14:22.400 Typically, Jack, when it's a poll of all adults, Republicans don't do as well.

00:14:28.080 They just don't.

00:14:29.000 So when you're looking at the registered voter population, that tends to favor Democrats a

00:14:33.380 little bit, but then likely voters, you know, people that are actually going to turn out

00:14:38.040 helps Republicans on the top lines a little bit.

00:14:41.740 What we've been seeing in the Trump era is complete opposite of conventional political

00:14:46.300 wisdom.

00:14:46.880 So if you look at the non registered population, normally a lot of us will screen them out. 0.98

00:14:52.080 We don't always we just show you the difference and we'll also even among registered voters

00:14:57.700 show you the difference between those who are likely and not the normies, Jack, the people

00:15:02.140 who don't vote all the time.

00:15:03.980 Right now, if you look at the premise poll, Trump leads Biden by 20 points with people

00:15:08.800 who are not registered to vote.

00:15:11.180 So instead of pumping out a half a billion dollars to try to overturn the will of the majority

00:15:18.980 of the party, don't you think that money would be smarter or more wisely spent reaching out

00:15:25.060 to those people going after them?

00:15:27.080 We looked in the battleground states.

00:15:29.380 I don't want to give my my hand away.

00:15:31.120 But all across the Rust Belt, Jack, there are tons of people who are, let's say, you know,

00:15:35.920 registered for certain activities that are very pro right wing activities, but aren't even

00:15:40.400 registered to vote.

00:15:41.220 So where are those Republican registration pushes?

00:15:44.560 And by the way, DeSantis was only ahead of Biden by two with this group.

00:15:49.280 So 20 verse two.

00:15:51.820 I just it blows my mind.

00:15:53.720 And then I saw it and I thought, you know what?

00:15:56.140 This has happened in our polling, too.

00:15:58.160 Let me go back and look.

00:15:59.220 How long has this been the case?

00:16:01.000 It's been the case since 21 solidly with us in the fall of 2021.

00:16:05.320 But I also saw several Quinnipiac polls back dating to 2020.

00:16:11.440 So this has been hovering.

00:16:13.660 There are like all of these Trump votes out there that can be.

00:16:18.420 You know, I don't want to say harvested right away.

00:16:20.980 You have to go and introduce yourself.

00:16:22.240 You have to you know, you have to make contact, seven points of contact, which we votes. 1.00

00:16:26.360 They're stupid. 1.00

00:16:27.420 We talked about this with Scott. 1.00

00:16:28.920 We Scott.

00:16:29.600 We talked about this with Scott Pressler.

00:16:31.060 We've had him on for multiple field updates talking about this.

00:16:34.460 But what I said before, you know what this is?

00:16:36.960 And Politico actually used this term.

00:16:38.720 They called it.

00:16:39.860 So you remember how there was that we used to rush used to say low information voters,

00:16:43.280 right?

00:16:43.480 Or somebody says, yeah, but Politico had a term, no information voters.

00:16:47.620 And you know what that made me think of?

00:16:49.280 That made me think of like someone that isn't watching the news.

00:16:53.020 They're not watching human events.

00:16:54.000 They're not watching your show.

00:16:55.020 They're not watching.

00:16:55.720 You know what they're watching.

00:16:56.480 You know what they're doing, though?

00:16:57.640 They're at UFC fights.

00:16:59.000 They're on all these podcasts that Trump is going on.

00:17:01.540 They're they're involved in all of these things.

00:17:04.460 That would be natural Trump supporters.

00:17:08.260 But maybe they're to your point, maybe they aren't necessarily registered to vote.

00:17:12.440 That's what the number is capturing that you're looking at right there.

00:17:16.820 That's exactly what this is.

00:17:18.900 When Trump can sit down and do an hour long podcast talking about UFC and world wrestling

00:17:25.120 and all of these other, you know, just sports in general, this huge audience that politicians

00:17:32.640 and political pollsters don't usually track.

00:17:35.660 We're coming on a break.

00:17:36.460 But last word to Richard Barris.

00:17:38.580 Yeah.

00:17:38.800 I mean, they're going to Geno's for a cheesesteak after a hard day at work, Jack.

00:17:42.880 Right.

00:17:43.120 They're not turning on.

00:17:43.860 Excuse me.

00:17:44.300 Excuse me.

00:17:44.880 He went to Pat's.

00:17:45.720 You know, he went to Pat's.

00:17:46.820 He went to Pat's.

00:17:49.500 Right.

00:17:49.800 Right.

00:17:50.100 They're not going home to turn on Hannity to get copium.

00:17:53.220 That's not what they're doing.

00:17:54.220 They're living their lives.

00:17:55.220 But vote for Trump if you got them registered and out for the vault.

00:17:59.160 No, I think this is what we need, Scott Pressler.

00:18:03.720 We need his work on.

00:18:05.600 This is what's really happening here, folks.

00:18:08.940 Rich, do we have you for another segment?

00:18:10.840 Yeah, I'm here, bro.

00:18:11.560 We're actually, I think we actually, I'm sorry about that.

00:18:14.940 We have to run to another one.

00:18:16.060 Maybe I get you up.

00:18:17.020 If you're able to hang out, we can get you back on after our next, because we do have

00:18:19.940 a hit next with Katie Davis Court directly from Portland. 0.99

00:18:24.840 Now you talk about influencers.

00:18:26.400 These are influencers, and they're friends of mine.

00:18:30.840 Jack Posobiec.

00:18:32.340 Where's Jack?

00:18:33.320 Jack, he's done a great job.

00:18:36.200 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec back live here in Washington, D.C., and I have a question.

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00:19:58.020 Very excited to bring in now the intrepid journalist that has been breaking this story for us and

00:20:03.700 for the entire world from her fingertips and sometimes being the target of the story.

00:20:10.240 Katie Davis Court now joins us, and it's safe to say, Katie, that you are no longer inside

00:20:15.920 Portland.

00:20:16.420 Is that right?

00:20:18.260 Yeah, correct.

00:20:19.360 I was not going to stay there last night after what happened, so I escaped to a nearby farm,

00:20:24.300 but I'm still in Oregon.

00:20:25.300 Yeah.

00:20:26.120 Okay, so breakdown for us.

00:20:28.860 We know that Andy, the jury, this Portland jury, found Antifa, these members, not liable 0.96

00:20:36.720 for the attacks on Andy, even though they were the targeting cell, if not members of

00:20:42.120 the Black Bloc themselves, in multiple attacks on Andy, John Hacker, Elizabeth Richter. 0.52

00:20:48.020 But Katie, tell us what you experienced while covering this trial inside the courtroom day

00:20:54.180 in, day out.

00:20:55.840 Right.

00:20:56.280 So this was the case of defendant Hacker and Richter, and they are the alleged Antifa doctors.

00:21:02.140 And for those people who might not know what that is, their jobs is to identify people that

00:21:06.640 they think might be infiltrating these events and then push the targets to members in Black

00:21:12.300 Bloc who then go on and get attacked. 0.99

00:21:14.680 And so it's worth noting that in this trial, three of the Antifa defendants actually defaulted

00:21:21.660 before the trial, so they will be held liable for some attacks on Andy.

00:21:25.440 And Andy also reached a settlement with one of them.

00:21:28.860 So this was the trial of John Hacker and Elizabeth Richter.

00:21:32.660 And when I showed up, the defense team tried to get me banned from the courtroom since day

00:21:38.840 one.

00:21:39.240 They put a gag order on Andy.

00:21:40.760 He wasn't allowed to talk to me.

00:21:42.340 I was accused every day of doing something wrong by the defense team or Antifa.

00:21:47.180 I was on a severe microscope, and the judge, she said, no live streaming, no live tweeting,

00:21:53.940 no live reporting.

00:21:55.460 And so it was me with either a pen and paper or a laptop not connected to the internet,

00:22:00.980 eight hours a day just trying to type in what's happening because I was essentially, I was

00:22:04.680 actually the only reporter in the courtroom the entire trial.

00:22:08.380 So that was great for a post-millennial to have these exclusive coverage, but I've never

00:22:14.180 experienced anything like this.

00:22:15.320 I've covered trials before, and I've never had Antifa militants sitting behind me, making

00:22:20.560 snarky comments, trying to read over everything that I'm writing from behind me, touching me

00:22:27.320 physically during inside the courtroom and disrupting the courtroom.

00:22:32.140 They would have these many, many outbursts.

00:22:36.080 But then I feel like they were coordinating with the defense team because this one Antifa

00:22:42.000 defendant, I'm not allowed to say them, the judge issued an order where you weren't allowed

00:22:46.520 to publicly identify, if you're a media, anyone that came to the trial.

00:22:49.920 So there were Antifa militants that came in very well known in Portland, extensive criminal

00:22:54.740 records, one of them being Haley Nolan.

00:22:57.480 And she would disrupt the courtroom, but then she was in coordination with the defense team. 0.83

00:23:03.960 And so the defense team would turn around and then accuse other right-wing independent

00:23:07.300 journalists of the disruption, which wasn't true at all.

00:23:11.080 Antifa were the only disruptors that week.

00:23:13.640 And they essentially got all independent media kicked out because of that.

00:23:18.880 So they're, they're kicking you out of the courtroom.

00:23:24.880 Uh, tell us then what happened outside the courtroom because, uh, you tweeted something, I believe

00:23:32.700 it was yesterday about, uh, I guess near the elevator where not only did this group accost

00:23:39.060 you, but also the defendants themselves actually came up.

00:23:44.220 What happened in that hallway of the courthouse?

00:23:48.880 Yeah, shocking.

00:23:49.960 So there's been a lot of recesses over security threats and concerns.

00:23:53.580 So it's typical to, um, for the judge to say, everybody out of the courtroom, you have to

00:23:58.920 leave security.

00:23:59.780 And this was after the closing statements, the jury just started deliberating.

00:24:04.920 It was a sense of relief.

00:24:06.240 You know, I was, I was writing my reports and I was, um, heading down to the elevator.

00:24:10.280 And as I was waiting, defendant Elizabeth Richter, she starts gunning for me in the hallway. 1.00

00:24:17.560 She is looking me deadlocked in the eyes.

00:24:20.100 And I go, I start panicking a little, like what's happening because then two other Antifa

00:24:24.800 militants join her and they just start harassing me, slandering me, calling me names.

00:24:30.300 And, you know, that's, it's not okay because, you know, defendant Richter, it's like, you

00:24:36.800 know, a robbery.

00:24:38.120 She's on trial for a robbery, but then she's committing the crime, um, during the trial.

00:24:42.840 So she starts gunning for me and I, as I'm entering the elevator, they try getting into 1.00

00:24:49.400 the same elevator as me.

00:24:50.540 And so I exit the elevator and then they start going, come in, Katie, we want you in here. 0.99

00:24:54.420 Why are you leaving?

00:24:55.660 Come on in the elevator with us.

00:24:57.460 And so they started threatening me as I was in the courtroom.

00:25:01.400 And as the Antifa defendant is on trial for threatening people, it's, it's just insane.

00:25:08.180 This trial was indescribable.

00:25:11.320 You had to have been there to really experience what happened.

00:25:14.260 And it's a shame that it wasn't live streamed because Andy's defense team or Andy's team

00:25:19.240 put on an amazing show.

00:25:21.840 They came to this trial with evidence.

00:25:24.280 They had all of the evidence to back their claims.

00:25:27.120 And the only way that the defense team could even, uh, argue the case was to try to humanize

00:25:33.560 their defendants.

00:25:34.220 So they just told stories with zero evidence backing up their claims.

00:25:38.180 And it was not the verdict that we were hoping for.

00:25:41.940 Well, and then, and then Katie, so one then, and we saw the very harrowing video after this

00:25:50.480 verdict, because I remember yesterday, there was a flurry of activity where suddenly we get

00:25:55.500 the verdict down.

00:25:56.600 Jury didn't deliberate very long.

00:25:59.080 And then you posted a video of your car.

00:26:02.980 What happened to your car while you were in that courtroom?

00:26:06.300 Right.

00:26:08.100 So Antifa was very emboldened, uh, yesterday.

00:26:11.760 There's this case has been going on for longer than a week and they've had threats.

00:26:15.800 They've been harassing throughout the entire week, but yesterday was a different vibe.

00:26:19.740 They felt extremely emboldened.

00:26:21.300 The threats increased security measures were made way more intense.

00:26:24.720 And so after the trial, when they read the verdict, it was just the most heart wrenching feeling.

00:26:30.980 And I just felt so awful for Andy.

00:26:32.920 I go outside of the courtroom and I start writing the breaking report and Antifa, all of them

00:26:38.680 showed up outside of the courtroom and we're doing a victory lap and they kind of swarmed

00:26:43.880 me and started, you know, F you, Katie, F the post-millennial, F Andy.

00:26:48.920 It was probably one of the most chaotic environments I've ever been in.

00:26:52.300 And I can't believe that that was allowed inside a courthouse to begin with.

00:26:56.400 Um, and, um, after we were able to escape the courthouse, I finished my, um, right up at

00:27:03.680 my hotel and I was like, Oh, finally this trial is over.

00:27:07.680 And I go out to my car.

00:27:09.760 I was on my way to dinner, go out to my car and find that all of my windows were smashed

00:27:15.100 out.

00:27:18.080 So wait a minute, all your windows are smashed out.

00:27:21.020 That happened.

00:27:21.920 And, and, and let me ask you, was this, was this car parked in, um, you know, was this

00:27:26.960 near the courthouse?

00:27:27.920 Was this in front of the courthouse?

00:27:29.620 Was this, you know, somewhere where that group could have come straight, straight from

00:27:34.360 you to smash it?

00:27:35.640 Uh, walk us through the logistics a little bit here.

00:27:39.280 Definitely.

00:27:39.780 This was actually outside of my hotel.

00:27:41.720 So I, you can, you know, I didn't see the crime happen, but it's just too coincidental

00:27:48.000 and Antifa is known to stalk and follow people.

00:27:50.700 And I just have a feeling that because I was at a different hotel and the trial got

00:27:54.900 extended, I moved to a hotel downtown Portland.

00:27:58.180 That was probably a mistake because if you've ever been to Portland, you just look around

00:28:02.000 and everyone's Antifa in Portland.

00:28:04.220 It's the way that they act and dress.

00:28:06.900 And, um, yeah, this was at my hotel, which made me even more uneasy because they were watching

00:28:13.380 me.

00:28:13.680 And, um, there was actually a post that someone from Antifa had made a few hours prior that

00:28:20.420 said, I wonder when Katie's going to set up a GoFundMe account. 1.00

00:28:24.120 And I didn't think anything of it, but now it kind of makes sense that they might be taking

00:28:29.440 credit for, for this crime.

00:28:31.300 You know, they probably won't, but this was, yeah, this was at my hotel.

00:28:35.720 And so I made this decision.

00:28:36.800 I just, let me, let me get this straight.

00:28:39.840 You got that comment or you saw a comment.

00:28:42.240 I wonder if Katie's going to set up a GoFundMe account before you would even made it back to 1.00

00:28:47.920 your car.

00:28:48.420 So yeah, before I've, before I seen it hours before, so they, I can't say for sure, but

00:28:56.100 it's just too coincidental.

00:28:58.720 There's tons of, you know, the parking lot was full and my car was the only one that had

00:29:02.260 windows smashed out.

00:29:02.980 And if it was a robbery, there was a couple of things that were taken, but if it was,

00:29:06.320 if it was a robbery, there would be multiple cars that had that.

00:29:08.900 Yes.

00:29:09.820 Yeah.

00:29:10.140 Multiple cars, but also they would have taken way more stuff out of my car that I had in

00:29:14.000 there if that was the goal of a robbery.

00:29:15.880 But they only went through my glove department and stole my vehicle title that had my address

00:29:20.640 on it.

00:29:22.740 So they stole the title, but were there other items of value that were left?

00:29:28.320 Yes, there were.

00:29:29.520 I have to go through and try to figure out and document exactly what they take in.

00:29:33.960 But yeah, they definitely stole a few more other things.

00:29:37.520 I just, it's hard to, it's hard to remember exactly what I had in there.

00:29:44.140 So, well, no, I, I understand that obviously you're, you're going through it right now,

00:29:48.120 but what I mean to say is this doesn't exactly have the hallmarks of a smash and grab operations,

00:29:53.860 clearly not a carjacking.

00:29:56.560 Yeah.

00:29:57.000 I can see just from the video that your, your car stereo is still there, the radio, some

00:30:01.600 of the, you know, it's like cell phone cables are on the, on the, the seat.

00:30:06.200 And so exactly things that would be easy to grab were not grabbed.

00:30:10.520 And then, and again, all the windows were smashed rather than just one window to gain

00:30:15.260 entry to the vehicle.

00:30:16.480 And so just a few basic hallmarks, Katie, we're coming up on a, on a break here.

00:30:22.840 You are a warrior, a warrior for truth, a warrior for the first amendment.

00:30:27.920 Can you stick with us into the next segment?

00:30:31.040 Because I would like to get into some more information about the trial itself and some

00:30:36.600 of the issues at play here.

00:30:38.300 If you're able to stick with us.

00:30:41.000 Absolutely.

00:30:42.600 All right.

00:30:42.980 Stay tuned folks.

00:30:44.140 We're going to be right back.

00:30:45.000 Katie Davis court joins us from Oregon, but not Portland because you can't go to Portland

00:30:51.080 anymore as a conservative or a journalist.

00:30:53.400 I hear about the boring people at your office.

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00:32:30.980 I want to go back now to Katie Davis Court.

00:32:32.660 Katie, walk us through some of the different elements of the trial.

00:32:36.820 Paint the picture for us.

00:32:37.940 I mentioned earlier on the show that that same place where your car was smashed, where the courtroom was taking place, this whole area was also just a few blocks away from where the courthouse itself, the federal courthouse, was under siege for 57 nights during the George Floyd riots by these Antifa militant groups, hardly any of which actually faced any repercussions whatsoever.

00:33:04.380 Andy Ngo, beaten on camera with video, the charges were, he was found not guilty, hacker, the first time that it was brought up.

00:33:14.240 Then he tried to sue the Rose City Antifa.

00:33:17.380 They said, oh, you can't do that because they're not an official legal entity, even though they have members, they have a website, you can't sue them.

00:33:24.980 And now finally he's trying to sue people directly.

00:33:26.640 Unfortunately, he's been found not liable because the jury doesn't care.

00:33:30.000 So walk me through some of the players in this, the judge, the jury, and this defense lawyer, who, according to your reporting, decided to proclaim to the court, I am Antifa.

00:33:41.120 Oh yeah, okay, so the judge, she, I thought that she would be more, more receptive to Andy Ngo's team.

00:33:51.960 She was a very kind woman and she was actually a refugee from Laos and, but she was appointed by progressive, the former governor, Kate Brown.

00:34:00.280 And she actually didn't allow critical evidence to be shown during the trial, including the infamous milkshake video that really paints the picture of this entire trial and who Antifa really is.

00:34:14.040 So the jury never got to see Andy's brutal attack by these people in Black Block, who Hacker and Richter both said that they were on the ground that very same day.

00:34:22.780 And, um, they didn't necessarily say that they witnessed the attack, but they've seen video and they are a part of Rose City Antifa.

00:34:29.900 And so that was never shown to the jury.

00:34:31.780 And speaking of the jury, it's really hard to describe exactly who these people are.

00:34:38.720 They were, some of them had told when, when the jury selection was happening, some of them had told that they knew who Andy was through mainstream media.

00:34:49.060 And they were still allowed to be on the jury, be on the jury team.

00:34:55.280 And, but it was a, it was a, it was a combination of elderly people and younger looking people.

00:35:04.520 It was a pretty good, they, they definitely weeded out the ones that showed up in the beginning that were said that they were basically Antifa.

00:35:11.980 So that was good. You know, you want a fair trial on all sides.

00:35:15.400 So the ones that said that they were conservative were also left out of, um, being on the jury team, but they, I don't know, you know, they, they don't even talk after.

00:35:26.420 And their, um, identities, identities were sealed after because on Friday they raised concerns to the judge that they were worried about being doxxed.

00:35:35.760 And said that people have been trying to find out their identities online and even approach them outside of the courthouse.

00:35:41.680 And so that, that's grounds for almost a mistrial in itself, but also they were afraid.

00:35:49.400 And during the defense, the defense lawyer, Michelle Burroughs, during her closing statement, she said, you know, her goal was to paint Antifa as this social justice, civil rights, activist, progressive group that feeds the homeless and, um, provides jail support, which is what Richter said.

00:36:10.100 And she, Richter, the defendant said on trial that she is a single mom and in her spare time provides jail support to criminals or what she called community aid, where she will give them socks and clothing and she doesn't have a job. 0.98

00:36:25.040 But yeah, the entire argument from the defense was that Antifa isn't this terrorist group that attacks people.

00:36:33.680 They are the civil justice freedom fighters and, you know, Michelle Burroughs said resistance has never been peaceful.

00:36:41.460 And then she goes, I am Antifa.

00:36:44.600 And after this trial, I'm going to even wear a t-shirt that says I am Antifa.

00:36:49.460 That's how much, that's how highly I think of being an anti-fascist.

00:36:53.500 And so the jury has told the judge that they are concerned about being doxxed.

00:36:59.160 They're afraid.

00:36:59.780 And then Michelle looks at them in the eyes and says, I am Antifa.

00:37:03.500 And then at the end, she goes, I'm going to remember each and every one of your faces.

00:37:09.320 That is also could be considered a threat if you are concerned about this group, which she then admitted that the ones that attacked Andy, she considered to be terrorists, which the whole trial was just insane.

00:37:22.440 But the main picture was, yeah.

00:37:26.380 Okay, let me ask you about that thing you just said, that jurors reported to the judge that people were trying to find out their identities online.

00:37:35.620 And you're saying people actually approached them during the trial?

00:37:40.360 Is that right?

00:37:40.920 People were harassing the jury during the trial, trying to find out their true identities?

00:37:45.240 Yeah, they were trying to find out their true identities.

00:37:50.060 I don't know whether, I don't know where it happened.

00:37:51.700 That is just what was revealed to the court that they said that during the trial, as it was going on, people have been trying to find out their identity.

00:37:59.940 That's not coming from the right wing.

00:38:02.280 That's not coming from the right wing.

00:38:03.480 That's coming from the defendants, Hacker and Richter's side.

00:38:09.200 They're the doxxers.

00:38:10.120 They're the ones that want to try to sway the trial.

00:38:14.200 And so, yeah, they said that they were afraid of being doxxed.

00:38:17.920 And then you have defendant lawyer Michelle Burroughs saying, I am Antifa to them.

00:38:23.400 And then you have her saying, I will remember your faces.

00:38:27.160 And then that was before they deliberated.

00:38:29.540 And, yeah, that was, it was just extremely disheartening, the verdict, because Andy is someone that deserves justice.

00:38:38.520 And any journalist that would go through that in America deserves to have justice.

00:38:42.800 And he was brutally beaten.

00:38:44.880 And he was only beaten, so he had the milkshake incident.

00:38:47.960 And then also in the trial was another incident that happened on May 28th of 2021, where Hacker and Richter were the first people to approach Andy.

00:38:57.120 He was reporting on an event undercover in Black Block.

00:38:59.360 Hacker approached him, and Hacker admitted to telling journalist Sergio Almos that he thought that that person there was Andy.

00:39:10.860 And then he, him and Richter both said that they talked together, but they didn't remember what they talked about, of course.

00:39:18.900 And then it led, after they approached Andy, identified him to other people.

00:39:24.120 It led to Andy being brutally beaten, a series of beating, running, he's running, being chased, being tackled to the ground, being picked up, thrown against the wall, punched.

00:39:35.080 To the point that Sergio Almos at one point ended up breaking up the Black Block and saying, go.

00:39:40.480 And then that gave Andy the opportunity to run into the Nines Hotel, hide behind the counter.

00:39:46.660 And then you see defendant Richter, or you see Antifa coming.

00:39:50.060 It's a mob, an angry mob. 0.99

00:39:51.700 And they're banging on the doors saying, Andy, Andy, basically, we're going to kill you, Andy.

00:39:56.680 And then Richter, you see Richter go in, and she testified that she lied to security to get in and saying that she was being chased just so she could confront Andy.

00:40:06.380 And she's seen on video.

00:40:07.560 It's her own live stream.

00:40:08.520 And she's broadcasting Andy's location and spewing more threats, going, saying, we're going to get you, Andy. 0.99

00:40:16.360 You know, we're, I'm going to beat you, beat the F out of you. 0.98

00:40:21.280 This is all on video after he was brutally beaten. 0.97

00:40:24.760 And if he wasn't, if the journalist Sergio didn't break up that attack, I consider this an attempted murder.

00:40:33.020 The way he was beaten, it's just, it's so heart-wrenching to watch.

00:40:38.180 And then for the jury to see these videos and not hold any of these people accountable for these attacks on Andy, I'm just, what precedent does this set?

00:40:48.740 You have free reign.

00:40:50.440 We need to get out of these cities.

00:40:53.200 Katie, we are about out of time.

00:40:55.920 Where can people go to follow you?

00:40:57.200 Thank you again, by the way.

00:40:58.460 Obviously, it's a very harrowing experience, even that you've been through.

00:41:03.920 Yes, thank you.

00:41:04.920 You can follow me at Katie Davis Court on all platforms.

00:41:07.920 And tomorrow, we're going to be hosting a Twitter space on The Post Millennial to brief with the other journalists that were there.

00:41:13.140 So tune into that as well.

00:41:15.220 All right, we'll check that out tomorrow.

00:41:16.760 Make sure to share that out on all the platforms.

00:41:19.040 Katie Davis Court, God bless you.

00:41:20.960 Thank you for your intrepid journalism there.

00:41:22.780 I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.

00:41:28.060 All right, Jack Posobiec, back live.

00:41:30.300 Washington, D.C.

00:41:32.660 America's blue cities and blue zones, they are now under occupation.

00:41:38.280 You must move out of these areas if you are in them.

00:41:41.680 And by the way, I highly suggest moving, not necessarily to a red state, move to one of these swing states.

00:41:48.320 All right, I'm talking Georgia.

00:41:49.480 I'm talking Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.

00:41:52.920 This is where we need people moving.

00:41:55.400 Not civil war, but a civil exodus.

00:41:58.080 This is what we need.

00:41:58.820 Rich Barris, I appreciate you holding on, man, waiting for us there while we did the live with Katie Davis Court.

00:42:03.800 We're talking about the insanity that is now Portland.

00:42:06.380 But we know that the Iowa State Fair is running up this weekend, and I think in a sense that what was done to Andy is a precursor of what will be done to Trump in some of these jurisdictions.

00:42:19.600 We know the Georgia indictment is going to be, you know, potentially next week, though.

00:42:22.840 You know, a jury in Georgia might be a little bit better than that.

00:42:25.520 But D.C., we know.

00:42:26.720 We just know D.C. is going to be what it's going to be.

00:42:28.860 New York, probably about the same.

00:42:30.020 But so so walk us through the people in Iowa, this this anger that's palpable there.

00:42:37.660 Trump's going to be in Iowa at the state fair this weekend.

00:42:40.220 But we've seen also in the media and some of the big name evangelical leaders from Iowa have been speaking out against Trump again.

00:42:50.840 This is something that happened in 2016.

00:42:53.540 They're looking for another go around.

00:42:55.600 Is this something that you think would play a role in him possibly not being able to do or perform well in the Iowa caucus?

00:43:04.520 You know what, Jack?

00:43:05.700 I tried to lay this out to give people a little bit of context, because in 2016, it was all the same players that you hear now turning on Donald Trump.

00:43:16.920 Truthfully, we're always anti-Trump and they were unanimously behind Ted Cruz in 2016.

00:43:22.780 Yet that was when Donald Trump, before he was a president with a record they loved, before he ended Roe v. Wade.

00:43:30.140 And the truth is, Ted Cruz only won evangelicals by about 10 points at 12, depending on the exit poll.

00:43:36.440 Right.

00:43:37.120 So it's not like the flock was listening to the shepherds like Bob Vander Plaats.

00:43:42.560 You know, he's got this reputation for being able to read the electorate in Iowa, when the truth is, normally the evangelical base just lines up behind whomever is going to win the Iowa caucuses.

00:43:57.160 There's no voodoo going on there.

00:43:58.880 He doesn't have his hand in some like, you know, on a crystal ball.

00:44:03.880 He just got lucky.

00:44:04.880 He's about to take his first L because no matter what he says or these other evangelical leaders say, this time around, Trump is leading with evangelicals by the same margin that he's leading with non-evangelicals.

00:44:18.240 So, again, the reason why some of the polls in 2016 had Trump winning, but then he lost a little bit, is not because of the estimated vote preference for evangelicals.

00:44:28.040 It was that the Des Moines Register had them only at 45 percent of the electorate.

00:44:32.540 They ended up being over 60 percent of the electorate.

00:44:35.380 That wouldn't matter this time.

00:44:37.000 That's my point.

00:44:37.960 They're not listening to their shepherds, their so-called leaders.

00:44:42.220 They're not listening to them for a reason.

00:44:44.380 These people have, you know, not been very consistent, Jack.

00:44:50.780 They are not, you know, consistent with their beliefs.

00:44:53.620 You want to do this?

00:44:54.520 You want to end Roe v. Wade?

00:44:55.660 Well, he ended Roe v. Wade.

00:44:56.980 What's your problem with him now?

00:44:58.660 Because in 2016, they painted him as an untested, untrustworthy, not a real conservative, probably a liberal from New York City.

00:45:07.320 That was the shtick that they gave those voters.

00:45:10.180 Now they know that's not true.

00:45:12.140 Even among evangelicals in Iowa who do think abortion is the number one issue and they're even further to the right than Donald Trump, they still support Donald Trump.

00:45:21.320 So there's no way – and by the way, evangelicals, their number one issue is not these social issues like abortion and other issues.

00:45:28.760 Their number one is the economy and beating Joe Biden, beating the administrative state.

00:45:33.920 That is what they care the most about and that in economic issues.

00:45:37.080 So I just don't – this isn't going to happen.

00:45:39.220 Well, and Rich, let me actually ask you about that yesterday because we saw the news yesterday out of Ohio.

00:45:46.520 There was this result on – they were trying to essentially go forward with the ballot question to change this.

00:45:53.460 But we're looking at some of these Rust Belt states and talking about the pushing for the abortion measures, and yet this isn't the first – I think Kentucky – or no, it was Kansas.

00:46:03.980 Kansas was another time where we saw this.

00:46:05.860 It wasn't able to cross the finish line.

00:46:08.580 Is this becoming a trend for some of these states?

00:46:12.360 What's going on here?

00:46:13.020 The truth is it's always been the case that the Bob Vander Plaatses of the world are general election killers.

00:46:21.720 The way that they discuss these issues is not the way – even if you find that there's common ground between some of these other voters, they don't talk the way the Bob Vander Plaatses talk.

00:46:32.920 They don't talk in the same way, hold those very draconian views.

00:46:36.940 And even if they agree that abortion should be illegal, maybe six weeks is where they made DeSantis go.

00:46:45.080 That's too early for Ohio, Jack.

00:46:48.400 That's too early for Michigan.

00:46:50.180 That's too early for Pennsylvania.

00:46:52.820 Let me ask you this way.

00:46:54.900 And I say this as a son of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

00:46:58.620 Does the Rust Belt vote the same way the Bible Belt does when it comes to social issues?

00:47:03.940 Ha! That's the great – no, that's a great way to put it.

00:47:08.340 And in truth, the Iowa caucus is not even representative of the general election – the electorate in a general election in Iowa.

00:47:16.340 That's why Trump does so much better in Iowa than other Republicans.

00:47:20.180 You know, when we just polled Iowa a couple weeks ago, we had Trump easily carrying the state against Joe Biden.

00:47:25.420 DeSantis and Biden, tied.

00:47:27.220 Same thing with Ohio.

00:47:28.700 This is why.

00:47:29.300 And where did this fail?

00:47:31.560 Where did issue one fail yesterday?

00:47:32.960 You know, all along the Northeast, when you're looking at the map in Ohio – and it's, you know, you have neighboring Iowa – but when you're looking at the map in Ohio, you have Trumbull, Woods, right?

00:47:43.220 These counties that Obama carried twice, which Trump kills it in.

00:47:46.500 He relegates Democratic support to Cuyahoga and Leon, where Toledo is.

00:47:51.540 The rest of it is Trump country.

00:47:53.560 Mitt Romney, you can overlap the Romney map with where issue one failed.

00:47:58.520 So, you know, Trump counties – there's overlap between Trump voters and those who voted no yesterday.

00:48:05.940 So, again, I actually think that Republicans can do a better job talking about the issue of abortion and that the majority position is the mainstream position that the Republican Party holds.

00:48:16.460 But the problem is that some of these leaders, these never-Trump, so-called religious leaders, they don't talk about it correctly and they don't speak for the majority.

00:48:26.180 And they make Republicans unelectable.

00:48:29.380 And in 2022, by the way, this did on the margins hurt a lot of – generically, you know, congressional Republican candidates, even some Senate candidates.

00:48:38.600 They didn't have good answers, and they were told to not really address the issue, and on the margins, it hurt them.

00:48:45.420 Coming up on the end of the show, Rich, where can people go to follow you?

00:48:49.160 Peoplespundit.locals.com, Jack.

00:48:51.280 Thanks as always, brother.

00:48:53.240 All right, and just to tag on that, Rich, you know, people need to understand Barack Obama won Ohio in 2012.

00:48:59.020 That's why Rich says this.

00:49:00.080 We need to understand this race.

00:49:02.860 We need to understand the republic is – we've already lost the republic in places like Portland.

00:49:08.340 We've already lost the republic in many other states.

00:49:11.680 Do you want to continue losing, or do you want to win?

00:49:14.360 It's a simple question.

00:49:15.480 I asked Glenn back that question this morning.

00:49:17.000 I'll ask you this question every single day.

00:49:19.000 Do you want to win?

00:49:20.080 Ladies and gentlemen, you have my permission to leave.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - August 09, 2023

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