On today's show: President Joe Biden's cocaine stash is found in the White House, Elon Musk is fined $350,000 by the Department of Justice for refusing to give access to Donald Trump's Twitter account, and a jury in Oregon decides that Antifa should not be liable for the attack on a federal courthouse in Portland.
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00:08:16.980I want to bring in here Richard Barris because as all of this insanity is going on, the insanity of Portland, the insanity of the DOJ trying to go after Trump's Twitter account, I think we're starting to see the numbers in the polls reflected back, Republicans, Independents, because what's really going on here, Rich, what's really going on is that people can see it's gone too far.
00:08:41.560It's all gone too far, and then you're going after a guy like Trump who has this connection with the base that is not going to be shaken.
00:08:53.560When you're doing all these things, it's only going to galvanize people further.
00:08:58.220Rich, is that what we're seeing in the new numbers?
00:08:59.900We now have new numbers, Jack, that are post the last indictment, and let's be clear, this last indictment was their pun intended trump card.
00:09:08.820So if there was going to be any deterioration, you would expect you would see it.
00:09:14.260And again, I just don't know, Jack, what people did expect from this particular indictment since we've already seen almost 40 counts between Alvin Bragg and Jack Smith.
00:09:29.820I did wonder whether they would get some kind of fatigue, but I think you're just dead on.
00:09:34.440Presidential elections still are A-B tests, and the more people find out about Joe Biden, it's like, so this guy's administration is persecuting this guy for that?
00:09:45.840You know, I mean, if you're a normie, that's kind of how you see it.
00:09:49.140And also why Republicans, I was listening to your last segment, Republicans should be ashamed of themselves.
00:09:56.680They should have already been moving forward with impeachment proceedings.
00:09:59.520You're not going to get a conviction, but if you want your guy to win, then you open up this dialogue, this conversation.
00:10:05.700You show the American people by forcing mainstream media to not ignore the Biden bribery stories and everything that comes with it.
00:10:12.680Then it becomes even more evident to the American public, independents included, why they are persecuting and prosecuting Donald Trump, right?
00:10:22.000Who the general public like him or love him still believes that he's not one of them.
00:10:27.060So, you know, you're telling a very simple story like that.
00:10:31.400And now that we do have all of this new data, you know, it's very clear.
00:11:02.960I'm even seeing in some of this data, it's 70% of Republicans said yes.
00:11:08.340Even if Trump was in prison, that included, I think it was in the premise, like 45% of independents, not just convicted, even if he were actually behind bars, which I'm not entirely sure if we are going to go.
00:11:21.120I haven't decided yet whether I think that the regime is willing to do that.
00:32:37.940I mentioned earlier on the show that that same place where your car was smashed, where the courtroom was taking place, this whole area was also just a few blocks away from where the courthouse itself, the federal courthouse, was under siege for 57 nights during the George Floyd riots by these Antifa militant groups, hardly any of which actually faced any repercussions whatsoever.
00:33:04.380Andy Ngo, beaten on camera with video, the charges were, he was found not guilty, hacker, the first time that it was brought up.
00:33:14.240Then he tried to sue the Rose City Antifa.
00:33:17.380They said, oh, you can't do that because they're not an official legal entity, even though they have members, they have a website, you can't sue them.
00:33:24.980And now finally he's trying to sue people directly.
00:33:26.640Unfortunately, he's been found not liable because the jury doesn't care.
00:33:30.000So walk me through some of the players in this, the judge, the jury, and this defense lawyer, who, according to your reporting, decided to proclaim to the court, I am Antifa.
00:33:41.120Oh yeah, okay, so the judge, she, I thought that she would be more, more receptive to Andy Ngo's team.
00:33:51.960She was a very kind woman and she was actually a refugee from Laos and, but she was appointed by progressive, the former governor, Kate Brown.
00:34:00.280And she actually didn't allow critical evidence to be shown during the trial, including the infamous milkshake video that really paints the picture of this entire trial and who Antifa really is.
00:34:14.040So the jury never got to see Andy's brutal attack by these people in Black Block, who Hacker and Richter both said that they were on the ground that very same day.
00:34:22.780And, um, they didn't necessarily say that they witnessed the attack, but they've seen video and they are a part of Rose City Antifa.
00:34:29.900And so that was never shown to the jury.
00:34:31.780And speaking of the jury, it's really hard to describe exactly who these people are.
00:34:38.720They were, some of them had told when, when the jury selection was happening, some of them had told that they knew who Andy was through mainstream media.
00:34:49.060And they were still allowed to be on the jury, be on the jury team.
00:34:55.280And, but it was a, it was a, it was a combination of elderly people and younger looking people.
00:35:04.520It was a pretty good, they, they definitely weeded out the ones that showed up in the beginning that were said that they were basically Antifa.
00:35:11.980So that was good. You know, you want a fair trial on all sides.
00:35:15.400So the ones that said that they were conservative were also left out of, um, being on the jury team, but they, I don't know, you know, they, they don't even talk after.
00:35:26.420And their, um, identities, identities were sealed after because on Friday they raised concerns to the judge that they were worried about being doxxed.
00:35:35.760And said that people have been trying to find out their identities online and even approach them outside of the courthouse.
00:35:41.680And so that, that's grounds for almost a mistrial in itself, but also they were afraid.
00:35:49.400And during the defense, the defense lawyer, Michelle Burroughs, during her closing statement, she said, you know, her goal was to paint Antifa as this social justice, civil rights, activist, progressive group that feeds the homeless and, um, provides jail support, which is what Richter said.
00:36:10.100And she, Richter, the defendant said on trial that she is a single mom and in her spare time provides jail support to criminals or what she called community aid, where she will give them socks and clothing and she doesn't have a job.
00:36:25.040But yeah, the entire argument from the defense was that Antifa isn't this terrorist group that attacks people.
00:36:33.680They are the civil justice freedom fighters and, you know, Michelle Burroughs said resistance has never been peaceful.
00:36:59.780And then Michelle looks at them in the eyes and says, I am Antifa.
00:37:03.500And then at the end, she goes, I'm going to remember each and every one of your faces.
00:37:09.320That is also could be considered a threat if you are concerned about this group, which she then admitted that the ones that attacked Andy, she considered to be terrorists, which the whole trial was just insane.
00:37:26.380Okay, let me ask you about that thing you just said, that jurors reported to the judge that people were trying to find out their identities online.
00:37:35.620And you're saying people actually approached them during the trial?
00:37:40.920People were harassing the jury during the trial, trying to find out their true identities?
00:37:45.240Yeah, they were trying to find out their true identities.
00:37:50.060I don't know whether, I don't know where it happened.
00:37:51.700That is just what was revealed to the court that they said that during the trial, as it was going on, people have been trying to find out their identity.
00:37:59.940That's not coming from the right wing.
00:38:02.280That's not coming from the right wing.
00:38:03.480That's coming from the defendants, Hacker and Richter's side.
00:38:44.880And he was only beaten, so he had the milkshake incident.
00:38:47.960And then also in the trial was another incident that happened on May 28th of 2021, where Hacker and Richter were the first people to approach Andy.
00:38:57.120He was reporting on an event undercover in Black Block.
00:38:59.360Hacker approached him, and Hacker admitted to telling journalist Sergio Almos that he thought that that person there was Andy.
00:39:10.860And then he, him and Richter both said that they talked together, but they didn't remember what they talked about, of course.
00:39:18.900And then it led, after they approached Andy, identified him to other people.
00:39:24.120It led to Andy being brutally beaten, a series of beating, running, he's running, being chased, being tackled to the ground, being picked up, thrown against the wall, punched.
00:39:35.080To the point that Sergio Almos at one point ended up breaking up the Black Block and saying, go.
00:39:40.480And then that gave Andy the opportunity to run into the Nines Hotel, hide behind the counter.
00:39:46.660And then you see defendant Richter, or you see Antifa coming.
00:39:51.700And they're banging on the doors saying, Andy, Andy, basically, we're going to kill you, Andy.
00:39:56.680And then Richter, you see Richter go in, and she testified that she lied to security to get in and saying that she was being chased just so she could confront Andy.
00:40:08.520And she's broadcasting Andy's location and spewing more threats, going, saying, we're going to get you, Andy.
00:40:16.360You know, we're, I'm going to beat you, beat the F out of you.
00:40:21.280This is all on video after he was brutally beaten.
00:40:24.760And if he wasn't, if the journalist Sergio didn't break up that attack, I consider this an attempted murder.
00:40:33.020The way he was beaten, it's just, it's so heart-wrenching to watch.
00:40:38.180And then for the jury to see these videos and not hold any of these people accountable for these attacks on Andy, I'm just, what precedent does this set?
00:41:58.820Rich Barris, I appreciate you holding on, man, waiting for us there while we did the live with Katie Davis Court.
00:42:03.800We're talking about the insanity that is now Portland.
00:42:06.380But we know that the Iowa State Fair is running up this weekend, and I think in a sense that what was done to Andy is a precursor of what will be done to Trump in some of these jurisdictions.
00:42:19.600We know the Georgia indictment is going to be, you know, potentially next week, though.
00:42:22.840You know, a jury in Georgia might be a little bit better than that.
00:43:05.700I tried to lay this out to give people a little bit of context, because in 2016, it was all the same players that you hear now turning on Donald Trump.
00:43:16.920Truthfully, we're always anti-Trump and they were unanimously behind Ted Cruz in 2016.
00:43:22.780Yet that was when Donald Trump, before he was a president with a record they loved, before he ended Roe v. Wade.
00:43:30.140And the truth is, Ted Cruz only won evangelicals by about 10 points at 12, depending on the exit poll.
00:43:37.120So it's not like the flock was listening to the shepherds like Bob Vander Plaats.
00:43:42.560You know, he's got this reputation for being able to read the electorate in Iowa, when the truth is, normally the evangelical base just lines up behind whomever is going to win the Iowa caucuses.
00:44:04.880He's about to take his first L because no matter what he says or these other evangelical leaders say, this time around, Trump is leading with evangelicals by the same margin that he's leading with non-evangelicals.
00:44:18.240So, again, the reason why some of the polls in 2016 had Trump winning, but then he lost a little bit, is not because of the estimated vote preference for evangelicals.
00:44:28.040It was that the Des Moines Register had them only at 45 percent of the electorate.
00:44:32.540They ended up being over 60 percent of the electorate.
00:45:12.140Even among evangelicals in Iowa who do think abortion is the number one issue and they're even further to the right than Donald Trump, they still support Donald Trump.
00:45:21.320So there's no way – and by the way, evangelicals, their number one issue is not these social issues like abortion and other issues.
00:45:28.760Their number one is the economy and beating Joe Biden, beating the administrative state.
00:45:33.920That is what they care the most about and that in economic issues.
00:45:37.080So I just don't – this isn't going to happen.
00:45:39.220Well, and Rich, let me actually ask you about that yesterday because we saw the news yesterday out of Ohio.
00:45:46.520There was this result on – they were trying to essentially go forward with the ballot question to change this.
00:45:53.460But we're looking at some of these Rust Belt states and talking about the pushing for the abortion measures, and yet this isn't the first – I think Kentucky – or no, it was Kansas.
00:46:03.980Kansas was another time where we saw this.
00:46:05.860It wasn't able to cross the finish line.
00:46:08.580Is this becoming a trend for some of these states?
00:46:13.020The truth is it's always been the case that the Bob Vander Plaatses of the world are general election killers.
00:46:21.720The way that they discuss these issues is not the way – even if you find that there's common ground between some of these other voters, they don't talk the way the Bob Vander Plaatses talk.
00:46:32.920They don't talk in the same way, hold those very draconian views.
00:46:36.940And even if they agree that abortion should be illegal, maybe six weeks is where they made DeSantis go.
00:47:32.960You know, all along the Northeast, when you're looking at the map in Ohio – and it's, you know, you have neighboring Iowa – but when you're looking at the map in Ohio, you have Trumbull, Woods, right?
00:47:43.220These counties that Obama carried twice, which Trump kills it in.
00:47:46.500He relegates Democratic support to Cuyahoga and Leon, where Toledo is.
00:47:53.560Mitt Romney, you can overlap the Romney map with where issue one failed.
00:47:58.520So, you know, Trump counties – there's overlap between Trump voters and those who voted no yesterday.
00:48:05.940So, again, I actually think that Republicans can do a better job talking about the issue of abortion and that the majority position is the mainstream position that the Republican Party holds.
00:48:16.460But the problem is that some of these leaders, these never-Trump, so-called religious leaders, they don't talk about it correctly and they don't speak for the majority.
00:48:26.180And they make Republicans unelectable.
00:48:29.380And in 2022, by the way, this did on the margins hurt a lot of – generically, you know, congressional Republican candidates, even some Senate candidates.
00:48:38.600They didn't have good answers, and they were told to not really address the issue, and on the margins, it hurt them.
00:48:45.420Coming up on the end of the show, Rich, where can people go to follow you?