Who controls the cognitive infrastructure of our nation? Is it we, the people, or is it the federal government through the National Security Agency? That is the question posed to us by the DHS leaks. Now, joining me to get into that all today is Libby Emmons, the editor-in-chief of the Post Millennial, and she is also going to break down the Supreme Court arguments over whether or not affirmative action should stand.
00:03:59.700And we found out that it was the feds that were actually behind the thing, not just starting.
00:04:04.340By the way, 2020, that was just a test run.
00:04:06.420That was the dry run because this continued all the way through 2021.
00:04:09.600We're hearing that it included the Afghan withdrawal, which I don't think that was misinformation.
00:04:15.720I'm pretty sure that was a big, public, overt event.
00:04:19.040And then also information about Ukraine, which obviously is a hotly debated topic with a lot of – I mean, it's war, right?
00:04:27.900So misinformation, disinformation, that's part and parcel.
00:04:31.140You know, the first casualty in war is the truth.
00:04:34.120Why is it that the feds have decided to target specifically – and that Orwellian language – the cognitive infrastructure of the world, or really of the West?
00:04:46.020Why does the federal government and these tech companies believe that it's in our best interests for them to do that for us?
00:04:54.120I think the government feels fully that it's in their best interest to determine what the American people should think.
00:05:02.100The Biden administration, we have seen repeatedly, is very heavy on messaging.
00:05:07.100Messaging is a huge part of what they do.
00:05:08.860It's why they bring influencers into the White House in order for those influencers to then spread their White House's preferred narrative across TikTok and Instagram and Twitter and Facebook and other platforms.
00:05:21.540We see this over and over again, and the government thinks that it's their responsibility.
00:05:26.340They also seem to think that they are telling us what is going to be in the best interest of the country.
00:05:32.160But really, it's in the best interest of their own narrative and their own ability to retain power.
00:05:39.320Well, and what's amazing is the response from some of these people, from SISA, has always been, well, we did this in good faith.
00:05:46.360These were meetings that were held, and people could see the meeting minutes, and they're starting it.
00:05:50.160This was all done well, and it goes back to that C.S. Lewis quote, and I wanted to bring it up for everybody.
00:05:56.720Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely expressed for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.
00:06:02.940It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent, moral, busybodies.
00:06:08.560The robber barons' cruelty may sometimes sleep.
00:06:12.160But those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
00:07:35.880You know, I'm fine with Snopes existing, right?
00:07:39.420For as stupid as they are and ridiculous as they are and PolitiFact and these other ones, I'm fine with them existing.
00:07:43.460But at the same time, why are the tech companies listening to them when it comes to suppressing speech and then takes a step further?
00:07:51.800This includes a whole constellation of censorship organizations like the Internet Observatory Project out of Stanford, some of these other orgs out there, third party organizations.
00:08:01.900It seems like they've done the work specifically of censoring our Internet and what what, you know, is said in these documents.
00:08:11.060They're trying to take over the cognitive infrastructure of our country.
00:10:08.520Let me ask you another question because I take it that your position is that UNC is allowed to consider other non-race-based personal characteristics of individual applicants,
00:10:22.380like someone's status as a parent or a military veteran or a disabled person,
00:10:27.480and give pluses in the current holistic environment for those characteristics without running afoul of the 14th Amendment.
00:11:02.860What I'm worried about is that that seems to me to have the potential of causing more of an equal protection problem than it's actually solving.
00:11:12.800The Supreme Court taking up arguments, oral arguments yesterday in a case for the constitutionality of affirmative action.
00:11:22.140You know, I've always said and Libby, you know, you come in here because I know you listen to these in great detail.
00:11:27.020I've always said that, look, if you want to talk about systemic racism,
00:11:29.920if you want to talk about institutional racism in the United States, that's great.
00:11:33.520Let's start right off the bat with affirmative action, which is a government program that demands racism on these institutions.
00:11:41.860You can also look, by the way, that obviously this started with college admissions,
00:11:45.740but we've seen these diversity quotas through ESG and so many other things throughout our society.
00:11:51.020And when I think that when you focus on this idea of diversity, which is interesting because at one other point, just throw it out there for everybody.
00:11:59.380Clarence Thomas even asks, can you define what diversity is?
00:12:05.100How do we know when we've attained diversity?
00:12:07.860And second question, can you prove that diversity contributes to the educational benefit of the students?
00:12:15.340Can you prove this? And they say, well, it's you know, it fosters a richer learning experience and it's it's a it's a less biased environment.
00:12:25.400And then, you know, Judge Justice Thomas cuts them off and goes, OK, but again, what are the educational benefits?
00:12:32.320Because you're not actually telling any of us.
00:12:34.940And look, you know, just to say it, the root word of the word diversity is divide.
00:12:40.500It's divisive. That's the entire point.
00:12:42.600Yeah, I did listen to the oral arguments yesterday in this case, and I thought that they were really fascinating.
00:12:51.060And there was a substantial difference between Thomas, as there so often is, and his more left leaning counterparts on the bench.
00:12:58.700Thomas argued, you know, that these are the same that the arguments that were being made on behalf of UNC and Harvard's ability to maintain race
00:13:08.380as a useful thing for the application process, he said that he had heard the same arguments they were making as in favor of segregation,
00:13:18.460which we know that Thomas has, you know, been on the bench for a long time and he's seen an awful lot of arguments going on here.
00:13:24.940And he's not someone who will suffer fools, particularly, and has not taken advantage of affirmative action and things like that in his education.
00:13:34.480It's not something that he experienced.
00:13:36.480And I also thought it was fascinating that so many of the arguments in favor of allowing universities to essentially use race as a thumb on the scale
00:13:46.340to determine that one applicant should be admitted over another is that the use of affirmative action and diversifying a student body
00:13:55.960then leads to diversity in society and in professional industries outside of society.
00:14:02.380So their argument is very much that the outcomes that they desire justify the means that are used to get there.
00:14:11.140But that's a circular argument, isn't it?
00:14:28.920So we want to increase diversity so that there is more diversity is essentially the argument that was being made by the attorneys for UNC and Harvard.
00:14:37.640And it was it was just fascinating to listen to this and to listen repeatedly to Thomas ask over and over again, can you define diversity?
00:14:46.160Can you tell me what the educational benefits are to diversity?
00:14:49.520And we've seen work by Thomas Sowell, among others, that discusses how diversity is not necessarily beneficial, particularly for black students who have tended to achieve in greater numbers in environments where diversity is not the focus.
00:15:24.280And obviously, look, you know, I see when it comes to what we may know sooner if we get another Dobbs leak.
00:15:29.180But obviously, you know, that's not something that normally happens, which, of course, here we are.
00:15:33.500Another term has started at the Supreme Court and we still have yet to find out who supposedly the leaker is still there, as far as we know, unless there's been staff turnover or somebody was already, you know, planning to leave that kind of thing.
00:15:44.400But what I thought was really interesting, you know, going back to that that clip we just played, you know, Ketanji Brown Jackson, she's she's basically making the affirmative action argument in by saying that, OK, we think there was racism and that there was systemic racism in the past.
00:15:59.860And the way that we're going to solve that is with more racism.
00:16:05.700And there's also this idea, of course, that the word racist is not applicable to any group other than the minority, the majority group being racist towards a minority group.
00:16:18.220So that's something, too, is the definition of racism has continuously changed over the years.
00:16:22.700And of course, the students for fair admissions is arguing primarily on behalf of Asian American students who they say get the short end of the stick in not gaining admission when people are given admission who have less lower test scores and whatnot on the basis of race.
00:16:42.700Jackson also said that because she believes that the notation of what your race is when you submit a college application is voluntary, that that sort of creates a situation where because the universities aren't specifically demanding that you tell them what your race is, that means that it's not bad for them to consider it.
00:17:04.300What didn't didn't Mindy Kaling's brother? Wasn't this a whole thing where Mindy Kaling's brother applied to medical school, was rejected as an Indian American and then later reapplied and wrote African-American, was accepted and then conducted all four years or how many years of medical school by essentially just posing as an African-American?
00:17:24.220Mm hmm. Yeah, I remember something about that as well.
00:17:27.000And yeah. And he came clean about it afterwards and said, this is crazy that this system exists.
00:17:32.020Meanwhile, by the way, you know, I'm all for it, by the way, if you want to go, if that's a system, then game the system.
00:17:37.940Just break this thing. Everybody, you know, pull the Elizabeth Warren.
00:17:41.280Everybody declare yourself Native American. What are they going to do? What are they going to check?
00:17:44.600They're not going to check. That's racist. That's racist to check.
00:17:47.200So they're not going to check. They're not running DNA tests, which was the greatest troll of that was ever done of Elizabeth Warren to actually get her to do the DNA test.
00:17:54.500But no, Libby, I'm with you. I think that I think it's possible that affirmative action could be on its last legs.
00:18:00.060And I think that's good because I think we need to go back to a society that's based on merit and actual achievement and not just based on the, you know, the color of the skin you're born with.
00:18:08.780I think I think that's what we should be. Totally agree.
00:18:13.200All right. Coming back. Human Events Daily. We're going to get into Guantanamo Bay.
00:18:17.420What's going on down there? Stay tuned.
00:18:18.420Jacob, let's talk about what DHS was telling you and Ken Delaney and essentially that they're not sending and will not send, and I quote, Haitian migrants from the border to Gitmo.
00:18:29.480How do you reconcile that now with your reporting of this new contract, this new ask?
00:18:36.300It's exactly what we've reported all along, Yasmin.
00:18:40.120This request for information, a request for proposal that went out from the Biden administration last Friday was to continue an existing program at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, at the Naval Station Guantanamo Bay.
00:18:52.060It's a little known ice detention center there.
00:18:54.280They call it the MOC, the Migrant Operations Center.
00:18:56.660And they say that it's going to staff up to 20, sometimes maybe 400 in a surge migrants from Haiti, Cuba, other countries that are interdicted at sea.
00:19:07.880There was no indication that migrants would be moved from the southwest border to this facility at Guantanamo Bay.
00:19:13.100But it is an indication by the Biden administration they're going to continue to use this facility at Guantanamo Bay in order to not only hold,
00:19:21.260but repatriate, if not in their home country, in Haiti, to other third countries where they say the U.S. government says they can do so safely.
00:19:30.480So Guantanamo Bay, back in the news for folks who don't know the history with me.
00:19:36.600I did serve at Guantanamo for about a year.
00:19:39.340I did an individual augmentee operation there serving in the interrogation detention unit.
00:19:44.820But also there's this history of Gitmo that people don't realize about the Migrant Operations Center is that those camps at Guantanamo wasn't originally set up for terrorists that were brought off the battlefields of the Middle East.
00:19:58.420That actually Clinton was the one that set these up and had to do with Cuban refugees, had to do with Haitian migrants, the boat lift people that were caught trying to get trying to cross the Gulf into Florida.
00:20:10.100You had to come up with some place to put these people. And so it actually started as tent cities across the island.
00:20:15.600And then because of there are people who are committing crimes or seem to be violent, those were the ones that were initially held in these detention camps.
00:20:23.120That's the history of how Guantanamo Bay was founded.
00:20:26.600And so at least in terms of the detention center, the base itself goes all the way back to Spanish-American War.
00:20:32.000It's actually our oldest overseas base. And the United States should never, never give it back up.
00:20:37.220That being said, lots of lots of great memories for me from from being there.
00:20:41.620Not that was my favorite duty or anything, but playing with the banana, these giant banana rat rodents that ran around rock iguanas that are like three times the size of anything.
00:20:51.420And and watch the, you know, watching crazy movies on these really bad drive in theaters.
00:20:57.240But no, Libby, when it comes to this idea, right, of holding these migrants at Guantanamo Bay, you can hear on MSNBC they're losing it there because they some they seem to feel as though that they're these people have some kind of right to come to the United States.
00:21:13.180Whereas when you're looking at it and from a perspective of Guantanamo Bay, it just makes sense because it's right next door.
00:21:20.740Yeah, I see what you're saying. And it does seem to make sense if they're I mean, Guantanamo Bay is right there.
00:21:27.180If these are people who are coming from, you know, the islands in the Caribbean and whatnot.
00:21:32.900But I think that you're correct. MSNBC and a lot of Democrats do believe that illegal aliens, illegal migrants, illegal immigrants, whatever phraseology we're allowed to use per fact checkers this week,
00:21:45.080do have a right to the resources and hospitality of the United States, so much so that they're not doing anything to keep the border closed or to even really mitigate the flood of migrants into the U.S.
00:21:59.520Here in New York City, we've seen the mayor extending such a welcoming hand that actually existing homeless people in New York are feeling shortchanged because they're not getting the same kind of outlay of resources and support.
00:22:15.320But, yeah, I think you're I think you're exactly right.
00:22:17.620And for folks, by the way, who don't understand. Yeah.
00:22:21.480For folks, by the way, who don't know the the the geography down there off the top of their heads from where Guantanamo Bay is situated on the eastern tip, the southeastern tip of Cuba.
00:22:33.220It is the very next piece of land that you would hit if you're coming across west from Haiti.
00:22:39.040It's literally right next to obviously the Haitian side of the island.
00:22:44.140But, you know, talking maybe about 100 miles or so off the coast of Port-au-Prince, off the coast of some of these areas that have been hit.
00:22:51.300So it's right in the corridor where these migrants are coming from.
00:22:54.640Now, they're being interdicted by the Coast Guard.
00:22:56.960We know that they're coming across. They're being interdicted by the Navy.
00:22:59.420Of course, you have narco traffickers and everything else wrapped up in this.
00:23:02.120And I think, look, I think that's it personally, personally, when it comes down to it, it makes sense for the United States to have some kind of handle on what's going on in the Caribbean in terms of these flows that affect our country directly.
00:23:17.280We are a great power here and it's perfectly acceptable for us to act like this in our own backyard.
00:23:21.920Yeah, we are a great power and we should stop apologizing for that and stop acting like we aren't and stop acting like there's some problem with the power that we have.
00:23:33.560We're, you know, we're big and mighty and we should take advantage of that.
00:23:38.400I wouldn't I wouldn't say that that means we should go around, you know, like searching for for issues and say, like, I don't know, Eurasia and East Asia and Vietnam, et cetera.
00:23:46.980But, you know, when it comes to something like this, I mean, this is obviously something that has a direct effect on the on the American people, direct effect on commerce, on trafficking throughout throughout our southern borders, throughout our southern waterways.
00:24:01.740Well, securing our border gives freedom to our citizens to live and work as they choose.
00:24:07.340I think it's important that we do that and that we respect the rights of Americans to the resources of this nation as well, instead of just constantly giving everything away.
00:24:17.780The amount of money that we're spending internationally is so amazingly large when you look at also the people who are needing stuff here in the U.S.
00:24:42.580No, imagine imagine how history would have been different if we had actually annexed Cuba after the Spanish-American War rather than rather than, you know, allowed independence and actually maintained direct control over Cuba.
00:24:55.000But by bringing them into the United States, I don't know, could have been an entirely different scenario.
00:24:59.900But Libby, we're out of time here on the show.
00:25:56.620Will these ideals that we fight for, the ideals of freedom and liberty, the ideals of safety and security for our people, for the people that live on our land, will they prevail or will we turn and enter into that door of totalitarianism?