Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - November 08, 2022


EPISODE 310: The Live Free Tour - Poso and Michael Knowles at University of Delaware


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 32 minutes

Words per Minute

187.21045

Word Count

17,255

Sentence Count

729

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

40


Summary

Jack Posobiec and Candace Owens are joined by Daily Wire editor-in-chief Michael Knowles to discuss the Kanye West and Joe Biden shirt controversy in Paris and why they should have been wearing the same shirts.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Welcome to Turning Point USA's proudly hosted 2022 event, the Live Free Tour.
00:00:16.940 Joining us on stage tonight, Jack Posobiec.
00:00:22.120 Let's get this started.
00:00:24.320 Now welcoming to the stage, Jack Posobiec.
00:00:30.000 What's up?
00:00:40.860 Good evening, University of Delaware.
00:00:44.420 It's great to be here.
00:00:46.120 You guys may not realize this, but I'm actually from the Philadelphia area myself, so Delaware is very well known to me, very well known to me.
00:00:55.480 So I take it that this is where we have to blame for Joe Biden.
00:00:59.540 Is that how that and and Jill Biden is excuse me, excuse me, Dr. Jill Biden.
00:01:08.880 Let's get it right.
00:01:09.920 Let's get it right.
00:01:10.580 Now, you guys may have seen the Internet at all today.
00:01:13.860 But Candace Owens and her friend Kanye West decided to go and break the Internet today because they ended up showing up in Paris wearing a couple of shirts that the media wasn't very a big fan of.
00:01:29.380 But we do have a video from Candace exclusively for all of you here explaining the entire situation.
00:01:38.340 So without further ado, let's hear it from Candace.
00:01:41.340 What's up, Delaware?
00:01:49.740 Candace Owens here.
00:01:50.760 And I'm just here to say that I am so, so, so, so, so sorry that I missed tonight.
00:01:55.360 You have no idea how badly I wanted to go and how much I wanted to jump back on the college campuses with Charlie.
00:02:01.620 Obviously, you've probably figured out by now that the reason that I missed tonight was because I'm in Paris right now.
00:02:08.020 My friend Kanye invited me to partake in what I perceived to be a really, really, really important cultural moment.
00:02:14.420 And if I did not think that it was such an important inroad for us to establish as conservatives, there would have been nothing stopping me from being with you guys tonight.
00:02:23.820 So, again, I want to say sorry.
00:02:25.480 I especially want to say sorry to all the Turning Point USA students who worked so hard to organize this.
00:02:30.600 And I promise, promise, promise, I'm always going to promise that I will make it up to you guys.
00:02:34.980 So whether I have to look to you next semester or next fall, I'm coming back to Delaware to do an event with you.
00:02:40.180 So thank you guys so much for your understanding.
00:02:43.520 And hopefully I will see you soon, probably at AmFest.
00:02:46.940 Bye, guys.
00:02:48.640 And we are going to hold we are going to hold Candace to her word on that, by the way.
00:02:53.060 Don't worry.
00:02:53.720 Don't worry.
00:02:54.020 I've got her digits.
00:02:54.760 I've got all of it.
00:02:55.480 But when I got the call yesterday and I'm doing human events and we're doing War Room with Steve Bannon and we're doing all this other stuff.
00:03:03.600 And Charlie says, Jack, I need you to go to University of Delaware.
00:03:05.500 I said, all right, I'll go.
00:03:07.220 But I want to bring another special guest.
00:03:09.200 And he said, well, who do you want to bring?
00:03:10.340 Who do you want to bring?
00:03:11.000 And I said, well, who do we have available?
00:03:15.020 And he said, well, we got this travel arranged already from Nashville.
00:03:20.160 And he said, who do you know in Nashville?
00:03:21.620 And I was like, I don't know.
00:03:23.160 We know some like Jason Allendeen.
00:03:25.800 We know some like Brittany Allendeen.
00:03:27.360 You know, he said, yeah, but they're not, you know, they're a little bit out of our price range.
00:03:32.260 At least my price range.
00:03:33.360 Maybe not Charlie's.
00:03:34.460 And I said, well, hold on a second.
00:03:37.040 I have an idea about who we could bring out.
00:03:39.220 So a man who is just as much of a medical doctor as Jill Biden.
00:03:45.820 Ladies and gentlemen, a special guest tonight from Daily Wire, Mr. Michael Knowles.
00:03:55.700 Michael Knowles.
00:03:57.560 I know, right?
00:04:01.820 Now joining us on stage, Michael Knowles.
00:04:05.260 Because we had, we had the plane ticket already.
00:04:14.160 So we just transferred the ticket.
00:04:16.060 Well, and I can pass for Candace is the other thing.
00:04:19.100 That's true.
00:04:19.580 That's true.
00:04:19.940 I was very excited to come tonight.
00:04:21.580 I mistake the two of you all the time.
00:04:22.840 I think that my presence here tonight makes me officially the new face of Blexit.
00:04:31.340 Because I figure, I figure if Larry Elder can be the black face of white supremacy, then I, you know, the Italians are racially very ambiguous.
00:04:39.600 Anyway, I think that I can be the white face of Blexit.
00:04:43.880 Is that fair?
00:04:44.260 Amazing.
00:04:45.080 Congratulations on your latest, the first transracial speaker I believe that we've had here at a Turning Point event.
00:04:54.680 Charlie is immediately regretting the decision to ask me to come.
00:04:59.880 But we're very excited to have everyone here.
00:05:02.200 And I don't know, I did already reveal, though, that is it true?
00:05:06.140 And actually, let me ask you, so we mentioned before that this is the alma mater of the Biden family.
00:05:12.300 It's true.
00:05:12.780 It's true.
00:05:13.660 Is it true, though, that Biden's, and President Biden's, his records here are still sealed?
00:05:19.620 Is that accurate?
00:05:20.820 There's still, what's going on with that?
00:05:22.620 You know, we're supposed to be a Q&A, but I'm asking you guys the Q's.
00:05:25.640 What's that?
00:05:26.060 What did you say?
00:05:27.580 Because he failed.
00:05:28.360 No, I thought, I was reliably informed.
00:05:30.940 It's because he got too many A's, right?
00:05:32.700 Yeah, he was too, is that it?
00:05:34.660 No.
00:05:35.660 Because he plagiarized.
00:05:36.940 I like that one.
00:05:37.860 That one's probably true, to be honest, because he probably plagiarized.
00:05:42.780 And we're not saying that because we were just making specious allegations.
00:05:48.360 We're saying that because it's literally what is done for his entire career.
00:05:52.260 He plagiarized his presidential speeches when he was running for president in the 80s.
00:05:55.780 He plagiarized so many speeches when he was in the Senate.
00:05:58.600 And now we're looking at this presidential administration that he tries to plagiarize from the television show,
00:06:03.880 the West Wing, but it really ends up being more like a really, really bad episode of Veep.
00:06:09.880 It is.
00:06:10.680 And, you know, the whole topic of the tour and the speech did get me thinking about how to fight back against this insane administration.
00:06:20.440 Because what's the topic?
00:06:21.340 The topic is live free.
00:06:22.800 And I think that's why I love that topic.
00:06:25.140 And I love that topic in particular because nobody seems to know what it means.
00:06:30.980 Everybody thinks that he's for freedom.
00:06:33.400 So the left thinks that it's for freedom.
00:06:35.420 You may have noticed usually it speaks about that freedom with regard to sort of weird sex stuff.
00:06:42.760 You know, this idea that you can be with whoever you want.
00:06:45.700 You should be able to have the freedom to kill your children through abortion,
00:06:49.440 that you ought to have the freedom to do all sorts of sort of social issue freedoms.
00:06:54.160 And then the conservatives will come out and they'll say, we need the freedom to, I don't know, cut taxes, regulation.
00:07:01.300 Well, I'm looking out and the lights are actually pretty high right now.
00:07:05.880 But is there is there a chance that we could get the lights on in the house?
00:07:08.560 Because I want to I want to fact check something.
00:07:10.180 Is there a chance we could do that?
00:07:11.060 I don't know if that can happen quickly or not.
00:07:13.220 But from what?
00:07:13.860 All right.
00:07:14.140 Yeah, we got them on.
00:07:14.940 All right.
00:07:15.200 Now, I just want to do a quick look around.
00:07:16.640 Everyone look to your left.
00:07:18.540 Look to your right.
00:07:19.320 I don't see a single mask in this entire room.
00:07:24.980 That is freedom.
00:07:26.280 That is freedom.
00:07:35.320 There is one all the way at the back, all the way at the back, all the way at the back.
00:07:40.280 That's right.
00:07:40.760 That's your freedom.
00:07:41.760 Well, you think about it.
00:07:42.380 The left says that freedom is putting on 10 masks and getting, you know, 15,000 boosters, which are so.
00:07:48.080 So the Ayatollah says that as well, that putting on masks is freedom.
00:07:51.700 Yeah, that's right.
00:07:53.240 So, you know, you get you get these different definitions of freedom.
00:07:57.140 And even Joe, I bet Joe Biden would tell you if he came back to his alma mater, I bet he would tell you I'm for freedom.
00:08:02.820 And I think there are all these sorts of debates.
00:08:04.980 You even see it a little bit on the right.
00:08:06.900 And it's a it's a big misunderstanding because true freedom is not just the ability to do whatever you want, whenever you want to do it.
00:08:16.540 But if true, true freedom were the ability to do whatever you want, whenever you want to do it, you know, the freest person in the world would be who would be a heroin addict.
00:08:24.500 Oh, yeah.
00:08:24.960 Right.
00:08:25.240 A sort of derelict bum shooting up heroin on the street.
00:08:29.340 We're only about 30 minutes away from Kensington Avenue.
00:08:32.380 Right.
00:08:32.860 You guys want to go up there.
00:08:33.940 So my brother, we my brother was living in in Fishtown in Philadelphia, only about two, three blocks away from Kensington and Allegheny.
00:08:44.940 And if you guys don't know Kensington Avenue in Philadelphia, that has become I used to call it a local eyesore, but it's gotten to the point where it's it's regional, national.
00:08:54.800 I've even seen people in other countries playing these videos.
00:08:57.860 So for for folks who aren't familiar with the area, Kensington is and it's right under the the Market Frankfurt L.
00:09:04.700 So the elevated train there.
00:09:06.600 And this is that area underneath where you see these shuffling fentanyl zombies.
00:09:12.280 And that's what they are.
00:09:13.300 They're fentanyl zombies just marching around.
00:09:17.580 And and now you may not know this.
00:09:19.200 Do you know?
00:09:19.600 Have you heard the nickname of this area that it's the Kensington Beach?
00:09:23.420 Do you know about does anyone know Kensington Beach?
00:09:25.360 All right.
00:09:25.920 The reason they call it Kensington Beach in Philly is because there's so many people.
00:09:32.480 That have overdosed or just completely knocked out and passed out from fentanyl there that they're lying down on the pavement as if they're all sunning themselves on the beach.
00:09:42.280 So the joke is that it's called the Kensington.
00:09:45.120 You go to Instagram, there's Kensington Beach lifeguard.
00:09:47.500 You can buy T-shirts.
00:09:48.580 There's Kensington, you know, the zombies of Kensington Beach.
00:09:52.460 And you can find these videos.
00:09:54.120 And it's horrific.
00:09:55.380 We're the laughingstock of the entire Western world.
00:09:59.520 And in fact, there's parts of the third world that are laughing at us when they look at this.
00:10:04.060 They say this is the first world.
00:10:05.240 So when you hear Biden go up there on the world stage and start telling these other countries using these moral epithets,
00:10:12.140 saying this is not the way we conduct ourselves.
00:10:14.260 This is the rules based order.
00:10:15.960 You cannot, you know, conduct whatever action it is that he's talking about when he goes to the Ayatollahs, when he goes to Putin, when he goes to Xi, etc.
00:10:22.560 Well, look at how we conduct ourselves.
00:10:24.480 And there was a book I read a long time ago that said something about the splinter in your eye versus the log in another eye.
00:10:31.840 You know, I don't I forget it.
00:10:32.700 Some famous guy wrote it.
00:10:33.700 And from that same book, it makes a very important point about freedom, which is spoiler alert.
00:10:40.780 Spoiler alert.
00:10:41.040 No, you know, it makes for those who haven't read it yet.
00:10:43.160 It's a good ending.
00:10:43.760 It makes a very important point about freedom because the Christian view of freedom is that the man who sins is a slave to sin.
00:10:50.000 Yes.
00:10:50.220 Right.
00:10:50.380 And so the freedom that the left is peddling is freedom to shoot up heroin, freedom to do fentanyl, freedom to look at porn, freedom to do all sorts of things that are destructive.
00:11:00.220 But as you see when you see the guys on the beach, the druggie beach down there.
00:11:05.800 Kensington Beach.
00:11:06.180 Kensington Beach.
00:11:07.080 They're not.
00:11:07.940 They're obviously not free.
00:11:09.200 They're the biggest slaves of all because they're slaves to their basest passions and their lowest appetite.
00:11:14.900 They're slaves to sin.
00:11:16.400 And sin is not freedom.
00:11:18.420 Vice is not a freedom.
00:11:20.380 Having the ability to live a good life, live a healthy life, that's true freedom.
00:11:25.420 And we as a society, you know, when I look at people like that, and this is where I might get into it with my more libertarian-minded friends, is to say, no, I don't believe they have the freedom to choose that.
00:11:35.920 Because when you have an addiction like that, that's become a chemical addiction.
00:11:40.000 You don't have freedom at all.
00:11:40.940 You don't even have a brain at that point.
00:11:42.320 And if there's anyone in this room, and I don't know if Hunter Biden's nearby, but come on, we're at University of Delaware.
00:11:49.120 You know the Biden jerks are going to be flying tonight.
00:11:52.260 But in all seriousness, and I would say this to anyone suffering from the disease of addiction, that we as a society should do better by those people, and we should do right by those people.
00:12:05.540 And it's because of corrupt politicians that have overlooked this for years and years, whether it's Philadelphia, whether it's California, Detroit, take your pick.
00:12:14.600 They are the ones to blame for letting those people die in the street, and we owe them better.
00:12:20.080 We owe them better.
00:12:21.340 Absolutely.
00:12:22.340 Absolutely.
00:12:24.180 You know, you talked about this sort of higher political freedom.
00:12:27.840 So if we don't want the freedom, the freedom, quote unquote, that the left is offering, there is a higher freedom.
00:12:32.900 Edmund Burke, one of the great conservative philosophers, he talked about how there used to be, in the good old days, a generous loyalty of rank and sex, a proud submission, a dignified obedience that finds, even in servitude itself, the spirit of an exalted freedom.
00:12:52.240 And it's one of the most beautiful passages in that book, and it made me think, you know, all in the name of freedom, what have we given ourselves?
00:12:59.800 This culture that is full of drugs, it's full of porn, it's full of disorder, it's full of family breakdown, the life expectancy in this country is decreasing now year over year for several years in a row for the first time ever.
00:13:12.260 Obviously, things are not working out very well.
00:13:15.300 Don't drive past that point, by the way.
00:13:16.620 Don't bury the lead.
00:13:17.240 For the first time ever in United States history, save wars, right, our life expectancy is now going down year on year.
00:13:29.440 Every single year prior to this, prior to this period, it's gone up.
00:13:33.580 Our life expectancy always gets longer.
00:13:35.680 This has always been one of the shining examples of the success of the U.S. system.
00:13:40.340 Now, all of a sudden, it's going down.
00:13:42.520 And I'll tell you why it's going down.
00:13:43.820 It's going down because of drugs.
00:13:45.140 It's going down because of suicide, these suicides, these deaths of despair in the Midwest, in the cities.
00:13:53.580 It's going down because of the crazy homicides.
00:13:56.720 I'm not even going to ask you guys to raise your hands.
00:13:59.120 But is there anyone in this room right now who actually thinks it's safe to walk the streets of Philadelphia at night?
00:14:04.920 I hope not.
00:14:06.020 I really hope not.
00:14:09.160 There you go.
00:14:10.460 There you go.
00:14:10.780 Yeah.
00:14:11.340 Wilmington, precisely.
00:14:12.340 This idea that, and look, we used to go down to Wilmington all the time.
00:14:16.340 I saw Green Day in Wilmington at Big Kahunaville, right?
00:14:21.160 Such a millennial.
00:14:22.600 Let's go to see Green Day.
00:14:24.140 But I also saw Bob Dylan there.
00:14:26.600 But I also saw Bob Dylan there, Mr. Tambourine Man himself.
00:14:31.620 And so, you know, coming down to Wilmington just to see concerts or even going up, you know, down South Street, Philadelphia, you know, these were rites of passage when I was in high school, when I was in college.
00:14:42.600 I'm a Temple University guy.
00:14:43.760 I know.
00:14:44.320 I know.
00:14:44.740 But this time, because of crime right now, I wouldn't even bring my children anywhere near that campus.
00:14:53.240 I've got a four-year-old and a one-year-old.
00:14:54.520 I wouldn't even bring them within a 20-block radius of that campus right now because of what's going on.
00:15:01.160 750 people shot in the city of Philadelphia since Memorial Day.
00:15:06.560 And now, to your point, aren't those people just exercising their freedom, their freedom to shoot other people?
00:15:12.980 No, you know, referring to that great political philosopher you just quoted, Bob Dylan.
00:15:17.680 Yes.
00:15:17.980 You know, that great political philosopher made a great point, which is he said, everybody's got to serve somebody.
00:15:23.460 And so when we think about these battles for freedom, how to live free, it's not just – it isn't even at all a battle between do whatever you want or live like a slave.
00:15:32.320 The question is, who and what are we going to serve?
00:15:36.840 You know, because if freedom were just following your own desires, whatever you want to do, well, yeah, it's true.
00:15:42.820 You do what you want to do.
00:15:44.300 But the weird thing about wanting to do stuff is the more that you do stuff, the more you want to do that stuff.
00:15:48.720 I sound like Yogi Berra, but that's the way it is, you know.
00:15:51.940 The vice and virtue are habits.
00:15:54.800 And so the more you do one of them, the more you're going to get at the political level and at the personal level.
00:15:59.180 So Joe Biden, he has this line, and it's the only thing I think I've ever agreed with Joe Biden on.
00:16:04.460 He says that we are in a battle for the soul of our nation.
00:16:08.600 Now, meanwhile, Joe Biden hires people that wear pentagrams on their chest, hires men who think that they're women who want to castrate children,
00:16:16.820 hires other guys who do even weirder stuff than that with sort of puppies and leather.
00:16:21.060 And it's very, very bizarre.
00:16:22.160 This is a family show, so we're not going to get into it.
00:16:24.140 So when Joe Biden says we're in a fight for the soul of our nation, I think, you know, I think he's right.
00:16:30.120 And he never told us what side he's on.
00:16:32.060 So I don't think he's necessarily lying, but I don't think he's on the right side.
00:16:35.920 And it gets to what Ronald Reagan said.
00:16:37.660 You know, Reagan in the Time for Choosing speech, one of the greatest conservative speeches in American history,
00:16:42.840 he said ultimately when you get down to it, there is no left or right.
00:16:46.980 There is only an up or a down.
00:16:49.080 And so when you're in the fight for the soul of a nation, at a certain point, you've got to pick a side.
00:16:55.260 There is no neutrality, and we need to stop pretending that we're going to come to some conciliation when, in fact, we're not.
00:17:02.940 We need to win the battle, and I think we can, but that requires moral clarity and courage.
00:17:08.760 No, I agree with you.
00:17:09.880 And there was – yeah, please, please.
00:17:11.520 There was an interesting incident, since we're going off of the great moral philosophers and musicians lately.
00:17:24.040 Of course, one of the greatest ones to ever walk, really, in any American stage is the current contemporary singer and flutist, Lizzo.
00:17:31.960 And you may all have seen this recent Lizzo video that went entirely viral, the James Madison flutes, first person, we're told, that has ever played his crystal flute in 200 years.
00:17:47.100 And there were two videos, by the way, and I'm going to be fair about this.
00:17:50.420 There's one video that shows her playing it.
00:17:52.640 I believe it's in either the National Archive or the Smithsonian.
00:17:55.280 She's being very respectful.
00:17:57.500 She's actually fantastic on the flute.
00:17:58.980 Very talented, yeah.
00:17:59.720 Very, very talented.
00:18:00.600 Clearly, 10,000-hour rule in spades, right?
00:18:04.420 And what's interesting, though, is that's not the one that went viral.
00:18:08.480 The one that went viral was when she very, to my mind, disrespectfully, was wearing this scantily clad outfit, picked up the flute of one of our founding fathers, and started twerking while tooting into it.
00:18:20.100 And what was so interesting about that – and I could sit up here and say, oh, how terrible and awful, et cetera.
00:18:25.120 But what was so interesting to me about that was I noticed that there were two responses to that video, and I'm sure you saw this online as well, and just out in the discourse, that it got me to thinking more that has America broken into two societies?
00:18:42.340 And does this really undermine the discussion that we're having about freedom versus not freedom?
00:18:50.140 And this idea that if our moral character is defined, whether or not by our embrace of our past, our history, our understanding of our history, or by overthrowing that history and saying that 1619, America is racist, et cetera.
00:19:07.220 America has always had a founding flaw of slavery, et cetera, et cetera.
00:19:12.200 And therefore, they interpreted that view of the Lizzo video through this post-racial lens where here is a black female singer and performer playing the instrument of one of the founding fathers of a slave-owning era.
00:19:28.160 I don't know if Madison off the top of my head owned slaves or not.
00:19:29.880 And it was so interesting to me that they were celebrating this, and they were almost in tears, ecstatic, that the moment happened.
00:19:40.640 And people were sharing it.
00:19:42.020 People were liking this thing, hundreds of thousands of shares, just as much as people on the other side, and not even want to use the word right, because I'm not sure if that's the right label for it, were shocked and dismayed by this video.
00:19:53.460 And so I'll ask you that question.
00:19:55.460 Do you think that – do you agree with my analysis here, this thesis, that it seems as though we've broken – and it's not geographic society.
00:20:03.520 It's not north-south like it was during the time of the Civil War and prior to the Civil War, but it seems as though it's sort of an ideological social split.
00:20:13.300 Certainly that's the case.
00:20:14.440 I'm certain that while Lizzo was twerking and playing the Madison flute, James Madison was twerking in his grave.
00:20:22.380 You know, I'm sure he was not pleased by this at all.
00:20:25.580 And it could have been something just fine.
00:20:29.840 It's a little weird that Lizzo is the first person in 200 years to be offered this privilege, but she was offered this honor and privilege to attack, to desecrate Madison and the memory of the founding fathers.
00:20:40.040 I mean, that's openly what the left was talking about.
00:20:42.360 It's what the New York Times was talking about.
00:20:43.580 The revolutionary regime always desecrates the symbols and icons of the previous defeated regime.
00:20:49.260 Of course.
00:20:49.860 And so that was obviously what's going on there.
00:20:53.100 And so as an attack, it was a really, really ugly sort of thing.
00:20:59.320 But to your point, the nation has split into two, not along geographic lines.
00:21:05.520 So sometimes I'll hear excitable right-wingers call for civil war.
00:21:09.380 And I say, well, do you want to go shoot your cousins?
00:21:11.340 Because, you know, I don't.
00:21:12.480 And I'm not really eager to do that.
00:21:14.100 And I've never seen a nation break up peacefully.
00:21:16.400 And I'm Catholic, so I oppose divorce in all cases, whether it's a national divorce or a private divorce.
00:21:21.140 And so I just don't think that's going to work at all.
00:21:24.040 I don't think it would be preferable.
00:21:25.420 But it does create a problem.
00:21:26.720 This very word freedom.
00:21:28.040 We don't know how to even use this word in the same way as the left does.
00:21:32.080 And this is true of a whole lot of words.
00:21:33.480 We can't use the word man in the same way that the left does anymore, or woman, or any of the equality, or any of these things.
00:21:40.360 Excuse me, are you a biologist?
00:21:41.260 Do we have any biologists in the area?
00:21:42.720 I want to make sure we're using the proper terms.
00:21:45.140 Where's Dr. Jill?
00:21:45.960 While we're here.
00:21:46.740 Dr. Jill, where is she?
00:21:47.960 She still teaches here.
00:21:48.960 I know she's in Virginia now.
00:21:50.120 So, yeah, I mean, this is the problem with political correctness.
00:21:54.920 This is the problem with wokeism, right, is that the left tries to change the meaning of all the words.
00:22:00.120 And so if you don't speak a common language, you don't have a common country.
00:22:03.060 That's true.
00:22:04.020 However, this is all very depressing.
00:22:07.800 And to use the young Zoomer speak, you know, I'm pretty hip and live with the jive, you know.
00:22:13.700 And so the way that the hip young Zoomers call it.
00:22:16.020 For real, for real, on God?
00:22:17.300 For real, for real.
00:22:17.980 Yeah, no, no cap at all.
00:22:19.720 No cap at all.
00:22:20.700 Awesome.
00:22:21.420 So, but what the young hip Zoomers call it is getting blackpilled, you know.
00:22:26.560 They are really, really depressed.
00:22:28.480 And I think blackpilling is not only stupid.
00:22:31.940 I think it's also sinful.
00:22:33.860 I think we're called to courage.
00:22:35.520 I tweeted this the other day.
00:22:36.700 I said blackpill is cope.
00:22:38.180 Yeah, totally.
00:22:38.920 The blackpill is total cope.
00:22:39.660 It's total cope, right?
00:22:41.060 This idea that, oh, it's nihilistic at the end of the day.
00:22:44.340 It's just embracing nihilism.
00:22:46.120 And nihilism is this idea that, you know, and if you are a believer, by the way, this
00:22:51.660 is the 100% Catholic panel up here.
00:22:54.040 So I don't know if Turning Point's ever done one of those before.
00:22:56.480 A sample of two.
00:22:57.220 A sample of two.
00:22:57.960 We are.
00:22:59.820 So that we're in the Northeast.
00:23:02.180 So it's cool.
00:23:03.100 Well, and don't forget, Joe Biden's a devout Catholic.
00:23:05.380 Right.
00:23:06.280 Very devout.
00:23:07.080 Very devout.
00:23:07.620 Along with Nancy.
00:23:08.620 So devout.
00:23:09.220 More devout than the Pope.
00:23:11.580 Well, that's another discussion.
00:23:16.840 And this is the part where Noel says which one.
00:23:18.820 Yeah.
00:23:20.160 I didn't want to be the one to say it.
00:23:22.040 But actually, you know what?
00:23:23.080 Speaking of the mackerel-snapping papists, there is a great coincidence that we're here
00:23:27.520 this week, which is this week marks the 451st anniversary of one of the most important
00:23:33.420 battles in Western civilization.
00:23:35.200 That would be the Battle of Lepanto.
00:23:37.380 Lepanto.
00:23:37.580 Now, what happened at the Battle of Lepanto?
00:23:40.160 You had the Christian Western Holy League is fighting a much larger force of Ottoman
00:23:45.160 Turks.
00:23:45.960 These guys were pretty serious fellas.
00:23:48.540 This whole thing sort of kicked off when the name, I believe, is Lala Kara Mustafa Pasha.
00:23:55.860 How's that for a name?
00:23:56.800 One of the Ottoman generals flayed alive the Venetian commander, then sewed his skin back
00:24:04.160 together.
00:24:04.500 I'm not making this up.
00:24:05.280 Stuffed his body full of stuffing and paraded him through the streets.
00:24:09.240 Now, as bad as things are for American conservatives, I do not think even Joe Biden would do that
00:24:14.960 to us.
00:24:15.760 I think Corn Pop might do that to us, but I don't think Joe Biden would do it.
00:24:19.180 And so I think, yes, we're facing the threats of censorship.
00:24:22.660 We're facing the threats of prosecution and imprisonment in some cases.
00:24:26.720 I'm thinking of the Midwestern grannies who had the audacity to take selfies in the Capitol
00:24:30.920 Rotunda.
00:24:31.800 You know, they get thrown in solitary and they throw away the book.
00:24:34.320 Yeah, we face a lot of problems.
00:24:36.520 The FBI goes and raids the former president, leading rival to Joe Biden right now, raids
00:24:42.000 his home on bogus charges.
00:24:43.640 These are all big problems.
00:24:44.880 But folks, folks, people have faced tougher enemies in more difficult battles than us.
00:24:51.440 And I think if we can summon the moral clarity to understand the stakes here, and if we can
00:24:55.860 summon the courage, courage, which is not just a virtue, but the prerequisite for all
00:24:59.720 of the other virtues.
00:25:00.620 If we can summon that, I think we're absolutely unstoppable.
00:25:03.940 And I think the libs are going to be run and scared.
00:25:06.500 Amen.
00:25:11.180 Now, what's what's so key about what Michael just said there is moral clarity.
00:25:17.560 The left has that.
00:25:19.160 The left absolutely has moral clarity.
00:25:22.300 Well, for them.
00:25:23.020 Right.
00:25:23.280 Yeah, for them.
00:25:24.200 Yeah.
00:25:24.380 Well, I could make comments there that they believe in their truth.
00:25:31.220 Right.
00:25:31.460 As they like to say of what they're doing.
00:25:33.100 They firmly believe that this country is flawed, that our institutions are flawed.
00:25:39.420 They believe in this idea that every institution in this country is systemically broken and
00:25:45.980 therefore must be brought down, destroyed, toppled.
00:25:50.060 In many cases, like the statues themselves, that is, of course, a symptom of this, that they
00:25:55.200 want to remake that country, our country, in their new image, an image of a new America.
00:26:01.600 Because they have the moral clarity to do that.
00:26:05.220 And it is only a movement with moral clarity that can ever achieve that critical mass of
00:26:11.000 being able to share.
00:26:11.960 And it doesn't take much.
00:26:12.900 It doesn't take much.
00:26:13.680 Just like at the time of the revolution, it doesn't take a firm majority.
00:26:18.400 It just takes a strong minority to be able to shift everything.
00:26:23.960 Well, I do.
00:26:25.060 You know, I did actually go back and look up something.
00:26:27.080 So we saw this ubiquitously in 2020 with the BLM Antifa riots.
00:26:33.580 I was in Chaz in Seattle.
00:26:35.420 I was in D.C.
00:26:36.620 I was in Philadelphia.
00:26:37.440 I was in more riots than I can even imagine at this point.
00:26:41.060 Do you need a passport to go into Chaz?
00:26:43.380 Is that, you know, it's a sovereign state?
00:26:45.260 No, because then you would be considered documented.
00:26:48.620 And therefore, you know, by whose authority would you be documented?
00:26:55.200 They're actually, believe it or not, there's a lawsuit going on from the people of Seattle.
00:26:59.800 This is happening right now against the former, God bless, former mayor of Seattle, who was
00:27:06.260 basically run out in disgrace, Jenny Durkin.
00:27:08.340 You remember her.
00:27:08.920 She's the one who said it's going to be a summer of love while we're out there.
00:27:13.660 The minute I got to Chaz, one of the first things that I saw was a homeless guy just completely
00:27:18.860 drugged out of his mind, swinging about a 12-inch Bowie knife, just slashing it about
00:27:23.500 throughout the air like he's Don Quixote fighting dragons.
00:27:26.480 And we eventually got to the point where we picked up this stick and we told him that
00:27:33.900 it was a bigger knife.
00:27:35.320 And so he took the stick and he put the knife down and then we took that knife and got rid
00:27:39.320 of it.
00:27:40.060 I have that on video, actually.
00:27:42.180 And a few people were sitting and they were having their, you know, healing circle and
00:27:47.600 going around the sharing tent and didn't even realize that this guy was almost lopping
00:27:50.760 off parts of their, you know, cranium, which they may have already had prior to me being
00:27:54.820 there.
00:27:55.080 I'm not sure.
00:27:55.540 A little bit, a little loss, I think, at that point.
00:27:58.480 But we realized very quickly how bad it would get.
00:28:01.700 So anyway, this mayor, she's being sued.
00:28:04.180 We just found out she deleted manually 200 text messages during the time of Chaz from the
00:28:11.400 moment that she said it would be the summer of love to the moment when the shooting started
00:28:15.280 and people were being shot up in there because the border defenders thought it was the KKK,
00:28:22.580 but it turned out it was a couple of black teenagers that were out joyriding, shot up
00:28:26.580 their SUV, killed one, injured the other.
00:28:29.240 She deleted the text messages.
00:28:30.680 She's going down.
00:28:32.080 She's going down hard.
00:28:33.060 But it shows you the point I wanted to make, though, actually, wasn't wasn't about Chaz.
00:28:37.960 It was it was about Christopher Columbus, because do you did you know that of all the statues
00:28:46.080 targeted in this entire country, there were only two that stayed up during that summer
00:28:52.620 of 2020.
00:28:53.220 One was the statue of Abraham Lincoln in Washington, D.C.
00:28:57.000 When I was there and Antifa came after us and they tried to tear that down a statue, by
00:29:02.000 the way, that was dedicated literally by Frederick Douglass himself, who was out there.
00:29:06.000 This was the original Lincoln Memorial before the new one new, you know, comparatively.
00:29:10.640 And the other one was the statue of Christopher Columbus that standing right in South Philadelphia,
00:29:16.620 they were not able to get it down.
00:29:18.960 And why is that?
00:29:19.680 Because the Italian boys of South Philadelphia had something to say about that.
00:29:26.580 And they said, no, you're not taking down our statue, Jim Kenney.
00:29:30.280 And that statue, I'm proud to say, is still up today.
00:29:39.520 My brother was down.
00:29:40.960 We ended a little Polish support to that as well.
00:29:42.980 So my brother went.
00:29:43.740 That's good.
00:29:44.340 You want a little bit of Western unity.
00:29:46.920 You know, it Catholic unity and Catholic unity.
00:29:50.240 The the it kind of brings up this question, you know, you gallivanting about in the sovereign
00:29:55.700 principality of Chaz and all the rest of it.
00:29:58.520 I was undocumented in Chaz.
00:30:00.040 You are.
00:30:00.520 You were a border crosser.
00:30:02.420 The the question sometimes comes up.
00:30:05.840 And unfortunately, I think people have lost sense of this in recent years.
00:30:08.860 Would you rather be a poor man in a rich country or a rich man in a poor country?
00:30:13.580 And as we've all become so self-absorbed, certainly on the left, but I think largely on the right, too, in this country, a lot of people have the mentality of, look, who cares what happens to my country?
00:30:22.320 I just want to be rich.
00:30:23.500 And if I really ruin the lives of my fellow citizens, it's no big deal because at least I'll have money in a big house.
00:30:30.060 But but the thing is, if you're rational at all, you would always prefer to be a poor man in a rich country and really in a flourishing country, in a good country, in a stable country.
00:30:40.480 You know, the richest man in Afghanistan had better watch out.
00:30:43.920 He's probably not going to remain rich very long.
00:30:46.300 And if you're in a country that's so full of disorder, where you can't raise a family, where you can't go out for a walk, where you can't have your valuables, where you can't go to church, where you can't exercise your rights, that's no country to live in at all.
00:30:59.300 Our our personal wealth, our personal individual freedom is tied up in a in a communal freedom, in a kind of national freedom, in a good, flourishing country.
00:31:10.100 And so if we want to live free, we need to have a good country and we need to stop the people who are trying to ruin our country and poison it and give us all a crappy way of life.
00:31:18.220 We know what the good life looks like.
00:31:20.460 We've we've lived it, probably many of us, and we've at least seen pictures of it.
00:31:23.620 So we we have some sense of it.
00:31:25.400 And it is absolutely our right.
00:31:27.400 It is our political freedom to demand that from our fellow citizens and to fight for it tooth and nail.
00:31:34.280 Amen.
00:31:34.680 And I, I do also believe very deeply that when it comes to freedom, we should also have the freedom to question, right?
00:31:47.680 The freedom to question your professors, as I'm sure many of you do, especially when you get your grades.
00:31:52.960 No, I did.
00:31:54.180 No, I'm just kidding.
00:31:54.760 I was treated.
00:31:55.100 But this idea that if you're being presented with some orthodoxy, whether it's the orthodoxy of the state, whether it's the orthodoxy of the media, why shouldn't you be able to question that?
00:32:06.800 And we've got videos now from the World Economic Forum, another group of people that tried to have me arrested.
00:32:10.820 Videos from the WHO saying very, very proudly that they worked hand in glove with Google to say, well, we didn't like the and this was the latest video that came out.
00:32:22.900 We didn't like the search results that were coming up when you Googled climate change.
00:32:27.320 And so we went to Google and this is very nonchalant as they talk about ruling our world and controlling our minds that we went to Google and we had a conversation with them.
00:32:35.980 And now that whenever now, whenever you Google climate change, our websites come up and none of these other websites that might call into question some of those interesting, you know, or pesky problems like the hockey stick graph or this idea that, you know, is nuclear energy actually considered green energy?
00:32:50.820 By the way, it ought to be.
00:32:52.020 It's the greenest energy there is.
00:32:53.600 Right.
00:32:53.920 But of course, they don't want that.
00:32:55.120 You know, they don't want nuclear energy.
00:32:56.480 They want nuclear war, it seems like lately.
00:32:58.200 But what's incredible to me, though, is that we live in such an era of censorship, such an era of political repression, such an era of intolerance, all done in the name of tolerance.
00:33:12.820 And this and if you read Derrida, if you read Marcuse, this is exactly what they talk about, that you must be in order to be revolutionary, you must have practice what they call intolerant tolerance, the tolerance of intolerance and repressive tolerance.
00:33:27.420 So your ideas that may simply just be asking a question, not even necessarily refuting what they're saying, just simply questioning their reasoning, questioning their minds, whether it be climate change or even if you acquiesce and say, OK, well, I'll read through on climate change.
00:33:43.680 But, you know, is it anthrocentric?
00:33:45.960 Is it something that humans are creating?
00:33:48.320 Is it something that, you know, me really, you know, me destroying all of my the ability to power my own country?
00:33:54.320 Is that going to save the world?
00:33:55.520 Is it going to stop how many degrees Fahrenheit of the climate going up?
00:33:59.360 You're not allowed to ask any of those questions.
00:34:01.060 And also, of course, their schemes always seem to fall back on paying the government more money and giving the government more power in order to solve whatever problem it is, whether it's covid, whether it's climate change, whether it's monkeypox, whether it's any of these things out there.
00:34:17.200 It's always giving the government more power, which is the answer to them.
00:34:20.960 And I disagree.
00:34:21.600 I think we should give our communities more power.
00:34:24.680 I think we should give our families more power and our parents.
00:34:27.980 I know I'm at a college saying that.
00:34:30.500 I know I'm at a college saying that.
00:34:32.500 But I'll say this as and we're both young fathers up here and there isn't anybody from any position of government that has a right to tell me how to raise my children.
00:34:44.460 And you mentioned when you mentioned the government and especially in light of the prospective nuclear war that we're all facing that you alluded to, there was a really jarring quotation that came out this week.
00:35:01.080 I was reading a piece on the war in Ukraine, a great piece by Christopher Caldwell at Claremont, and he pointed out that Ian Bremmer, the foreign policy writer, a very popular writer, he said that in this war, it's so strange because certain corporations have become literal belligerents in the war.
00:35:19.340 He was referring to Elon Musk, who offered the Starlink satellite system as it was widely considered an act of charity.
00:35:25.940 He was referring to other companies, though.
00:35:28.200 But Google, when you think of the power that a company like Google or Amazon or any other corporation can have, well, obviously they have the power to censor.
00:35:37.720 They censored the duly elected sitting president of the United States on January 7th, 2021.
00:35:42.640 No one, as far as I know, among the American people, said, Google, we want you to have this power.
00:35:47.380 They just sort of took it.
00:35:48.880 And in a self-government where we're supposed to persuade one another to create our laws, that means that they're controlling the entire political order.
00:35:57.060 But then if a corporation can become a belligerent during a war, well, then the corporation can be a target during the war.
00:36:02.880 The corporation is carrying on foreign policy.
00:36:05.880 All of a sudden we look up and there was 10 years ago we used to say, oh, well, if you don't like Google, build your own Google.
00:36:13.200 You know, that's the free market at work.
00:36:14.680 I'm not sure how free that market is, by the way.
00:36:16.840 But regardless, if my rights are being taken away by the U.S. federal government, that bugs me.
00:36:22.260 If my rights are being taken away by Google and, I don't know, Facebook and all these corporations that are frankly less accountable to me even than the government is, and that's damning with faint praise, well, I don't like that either.
00:36:36.160 And I refuse to sit idly by in the name of some quote-unquote principled conservatism, which I think is neither conservative nor particularly principled, and allow these corporations to take away our freedom.
00:36:49.600 You know, the government is not the only threat to our freedom.
00:36:53.340 I can't see too well with the lights.
00:36:55.140 That might be Teddy Roosevelt over there that I'm seeing, you know.
00:36:57.840 I'm a bull moose is what I am, darn it.
00:36:59.920 A little bull moose, right?
00:37:00.540 A little Teddy Roosevelt.
00:37:02.120 If you go, by the way, to, if you go to Milwaukee, you can actually go to the, there's a hotel that's been built on the site of the spot where Roosevelt was actually shot with a Derringer, I believe it was a .38,
00:37:15.640 while he was giving a speech, and had, it hit him in the copy of his speech that he had in his breast pocket.
00:37:23.260 He continued, he decided to continue doing the speech because he had been so much of a hunter in his life,
00:37:30.780 he realized that because he wasn't coughing up blood, that meant the bullet hadn't, I kid you not,
00:37:36.420 he realized that the bullet had not gone into his lung, and therefore he would probably survive because it was just a flesh wound.
00:37:42.080 And that's a real president, ladies and gentlemen.
00:37:47.120 And he was right, by the way.
00:37:48.680 He was 100% right.
00:37:50.000 No, it is worth reiterating here.
00:37:53.720 We should not test this theory tonight.
00:37:55.880 I have no doubt he was right, but I don't want to, I don't want to prove it true.
00:37:59.040 I only have copies of your speech, so it's much longer, it's much thicker than mine.
00:38:02.000 Right now, so, but there was this idea as well that in the Roosevelt era, and you saw this in the conservative movement for many years,
00:38:10.120 where they would try to write off Teddy Roosevelt as a progressive and lump him in with Woodrow Wilson
00:38:14.920 and lump him in with these ideas of, okay, as an example, if you want to understand how you get a Dr. Fauci,
00:38:21.980 you have to go back to Woodrow Wilson, because if you understand Wilson's idea of government,
00:38:28.340 which he got from the Frankfurt School, which he got from Germany,
00:38:31.140 it was this idea that government should be based along the ideals of Darwinism, essentially, of natural selection,
00:38:39.480 that the government should be not this separation of powers, this biblical framework from Isaiah.
00:38:45.060 No, no, no, no, no, right?
00:38:46.380 The king, the lawmaker, and the judge, which should be split in three.
00:38:49.960 No, no, no.
00:38:50.980 The government should be an amorphous entity that is constantly evolving.
00:38:55.500 So the growth of the theory of evolution and the growth of this new form of government actually coincide.
00:39:02.080 And in Wilson's mind, the idea was that they should, this should be in parallel,
00:39:07.800 because the sense of it was that Congress and the founders and the elected representatives,
00:39:14.100 they didn't understand evolution.
00:39:16.660 They didn't understand Darwin.
00:39:17.800 The founding fathers didn't have Darwin.
00:39:19.140 So how could they understand the right processes of the world?
00:39:22.700 And so experts must then evolve to evolve along with material science in the material world,
00:39:30.040 and they should be erected.
00:39:32.200 What they did through this was the growth of the administrative state,
00:39:36.480 the growth of the bureaucracy, the growth of rule by expert, rule by the eggheads in many senses.
00:39:44.640 And what it did actually was it took our constitutional system,
00:39:47.440 and if any of you are in government or in poli-sci, I don't mean to get too poli-sci on you here,
00:39:50.780 but, and I am a Temple grad, so I'm not too good at it,
00:39:53.460 that our sovereignty started leaking out.
00:39:57.980 Our sovereignty started leaking out of the constitutional system,
00:40:01.180 and that opening is where lobbyists, where the academy, where bureaucrats,
00:40:07.700 where so many others were able to come back in,
00:40:09.500 because they realized that if the politicians started just following whatever their edicts were
00:40:15.020 and went along with it, and the court started following along with it
00:40:17.820 because of the court system and the judiciary in general
00:40:20.820 is already sort of tied into the legal profession as it is,
00:40:23.620 they're always sort of hand in hand,
00:40:25.420 that fast forward 100 years, that's how you can get an unelected bureaucrat,
00:40:33.000 this 5'3 doctor, who can say,
00:40:37.460 well, okay, every child in this classroom, I'm not going to do the voice,
00:40:40.760 but every child in the classroom should wear a mask.
00:40:42.520 Every child in the classroom should wear a mask.
00:40:45.260 There it is.
00:40:47.820 Obviously, ask the Italian.
00:40:49.920 So, but the school board's voted against it,
00:40:53.900 and the school board is the closest to,
00:40:56.440 but Dr. Fauci, the school board has voted against it,
00:40:59.400 so we're closest, we control the school,
00:41:01.520 so you can't override us, can you?
00:41:04.540 He can.
00:41:05.260 He can do whatever he wants.
00:41:06.660 What about the governor?
00:41:07.360 What if the governor of Tennessee himself
00:41:09.780 says that he agrees with the school board,
00:41:12.320 files it in court,
00:41:13.580 the court's surely going to side with the duly electorate.
00:41:15.340 I don't care about no stinking governor.
00:41:17.340 Why do I need to answer to some governor?
00:41:19.080 I'm Dr. Fauci.
00:41:20.080 I do what I want.
00:41:21.180 No, but Dr. Fauci, I don't understand.
00:41:23.380 I mean, so you're just doing this out of love, of country?
00:41:27.080 I'm doing it because it is my birthright
00:41:30.300 to tell all of you little sheep exactly what you should do.
00:41:33.700 You should wear the mask.
00:41:34.880 Don't wear the mask.
00:41:35.700 Wear it again.
00:41:36.660 Do whatever I say.
00:41:38.220 Well, fortunately.
00:41:38.880 For I am the great Dr. Fauci.
00:41:39.920 Well, of course, you're just doing this out of the goodness of your heart.
00:41:43.940 I mean, it's not like you stand to gain any kind of,
00:41:46.300 I don't know, financial profit.
00:41:47.740 What, a lot of money?
00:41:48.640 Yeah, never mind.
00:41:49.740 We don't need to talk about that.
00:41:51.280 Don't poke around my books, Senator Paul.
00:41:53.720 And of course, you'll just release your financial documents.
00:41:56.620 By the way, when Senator Paul, Senator Rand Paul,
00:42:00.960 is in the majority, I interviewed him last week.
00:42:03.700 He said that he's going to appoint a special counsel specifically for Dr. Fauci.
00:42:10.300 We're not letting that one go.
00:42:14.900 We're not letting that one go.
00:42:17.020 But I want you to understand that.
00:42:18.760 I want you to understand that if you have to go all the way back to Wilson
00:42:21.560 and this idea of an ever-evolving permanent state,
00:42:27.000 and this is where you get the idea that your rights are countermanded.
00:42:32.300 The entire electoral system, the system that was written and laid down for us by the founders
00:42:36.600 at Independence Hall, again, right over here in Pennsylvania,
00:42:40.860 same area, same building, actually, where the declaration was signed,
00:42:44.160 Fifth and Market is where Jefferson wrote it,
00:42:46.800 that you don't have that anymore.
00:42:49.600 You have the role of these little unelected freaks
00:42:52.800 who just make decisions on a whim,
00:42:56.800 and one day he says he's for masks, and one day he says he's not,
00:42:59.220 and one day he says natural immunity is amazing,
00:43:01.620 and one day he says, no, of course you don't need natural immunity.
00:43:03.740 By the way, I'm unvaccinated, my family's unvaccinated,
00:43:08.140 we have natural immunity, we're sticking with that.
00:43:13.800 Are you really going to admit that?
00:43:15.480 They're going to come after you, they're going to kick down your door,
00:43:17.880 they're going to go after you.
00:43:18.980 You know, points very, very well taken, Jack,
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00:45:23.360 In the spirit of restoring power to the people,
00:45:26.440 giving people a say not just in their government,
00:45:28.620 but in this very event tonight,
00:45:30.160 should we take some questions from the audience?
00:45:32.020 This audience, I don't know.
00:45:33.120 I don't know.
00:45:34.200 I don't know if they have any good ones.
00:45:36.100 I'll take good questions.
00:45:37.620 Wait, actually, no.
00:45:38.820 Let's take the bad questions first.
00:45:40.840 You know, this is a rule that my colleagues have had for so long.
00:45:44.180 They say, if you disagree with us,
00:45:46.740 come to the front of the line.
00:45:47.680 I think if you disagree with me, you should go to Guantanamo Bay.
00:45:51.000 But my more open-minded colleagues,
00:45:53.080 they insist that you go to the front of the line.
00:45:56.660 I'm actually serious about that.
00:45:57.900 If we have any socialists in the room or, you know, full on,
00:46:01.520 if you're from the, what is it,
00:46:03.580 the gender clinic at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia,
00:46:06.600 please, please come on down.
00:46:08.000 We just broke the news a few hours ago, by the way,
00:46:10.580 that the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia,
00:46:13.460 working, of course, with the great Dr. Rachel Levine,
00:46:15.740 don't we all love her, don't we love her so much,
00:46:18.120 our greatest military officer,
00:46:20.760 that not only are they pushing gender transitions for children,
00:46:26.560 they will, number one, if you're in the foster system,
00:46:31.000 because, of course, you know, kids in the foster system,
00:46:33.060 I mean, they don't have any issues to deal with,
00:46:34.540 that they directly target children in the foster system
00:46:38.520 and will put them in for these treatments
00:46:41.260 without any need for parental consent,
00:46:44.160 because there's no parents in the picture or legal guardians.
00:46:47.200 Number two, we lately found out
00:46:49.600 that the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia,
00:46:51.540 a gender clinic,
00:46:52.620 I've just been, I was just speaking in Philadelphia this weekend,
00:46:54.980 that's why I'm hot on it,
00:46:55.780 that they're now recruiting their research subjects,
00:47:00.520 I don't know if they're suspects, but it's almost similar,
00:47:02.840 at homeless shelters.
00:47:05.700 Children at Homeless Covenant House,
00:47:07.840 right in North Philadelphia,
00:47:09.020 they're recruiting children for gender studies up there.
00:47:12.280 That's what's going on.
00:47:13.280 And if you could,
00:47:14.520 growing up in the Philadelphia area,
00:47:17.420 if you heard the name CHOP,
00:47:19.480 right, that was sacrosanct,
00:47:20.660 that was beloved,
00:47:23.040 that was just,
00:47:24.060 if you had a problem,
00:47:25.440 God forbid, with your child,
00:47:26.980 you would take him to Children's Hospital,
00:47:28.400 you knew everything was going to be fine.
00:47:30.060 Now, if you have a problem with Timmy,
00:47:32.160 you send him to Children's Hospital,
00:47:33.280 maybe he comes back as Jenny,
00:47:34.480 maybe they don't let him come back at all, right?
00:47:36.500 This is the insanity,
00:47:38.740 this is the absolute insanity that's going on
00:47:41.040 in this dark alliance,
00:47:43.040 and I call it a dark alliance,
00:47:44.640 between crooked politicians,
00:47:46.420 Dr. Rachel Levine,
00:47:47.480 and the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia,
00:47:48.820 and many other children's hospitals,
00:47:50.120 for example,
00:47:51.020 your colleague,
00:47:52.120 Mr. Matt Walsh,
00:47:53.240 the great Matt Walsh,
00:47:54.960 just exposed Vanderbilt,
00:47:59.900 and they called it a cash cow.
00:48:02.540 Yeah.
00:48:02.840 They called it a cash cow.
00:48:03.700 And you think about,
00:48:04.700 look,
00:48:05.320 when something crazy happens in Boston,
00:48:06.940 I say,
00:48:07.340 okay, that's Boston.
00:48:08.280 Something crazy happens in Philly,
00:48:09.720 I say,
00:48:10.000 okay, that's Philly.
00:48:10.880 Something crazy happens in Tennessee.
00:48:12.760 Tennessee,
00:48:13.260 that's supposed to be
00:48:14.000 the red part of the country,
00:48:15.520 and so it's everywhere,
00:48:16.840 and they're pushing it everywhere,
00:48:18.400 and all it takes,
00:48:19.580 look,
00:48:19.920 the people are on our side
00:48:20.920 on this issue.
00:48:21.660 The vast majority of Americans
00:48:22.840 don't want to trans the kids.
00:48:24.420 Very powerful people
00:48:25.460 in very specific offices
00:48:28.020 are pushing this kind of thing.
00:48:29.680 The people,
00:48:30.200 I think,
00:48:30.660 can push back.
00:48:32.700 Speaking of the people.
00:48:33.520 I was just wondering,
00:48:38.460 so you guys are both,
00:48:39.160 I guess,
00:48:39.480 pretty big Catholic,
00:48:40.580 you know,
00:48:41.420 Republican speakers
00:48:42.340 in the area,
00:48:43.180 and I was wondering,
00:48:44.080 besides from,
00:48:44.940 you know,
00:48:45.260 your big Catholic background roots,
00:48:47.020 were there any other influence
00:48:47.900 you've had,
00:48:48.320 whether it be organizations
00:48:49.140 or people that helped
00:48:49.700 shape your opinions,
00:48:51.260 or even now,
00:48:52.440 different organizations
00:48:53.320 that helped shape your opinions?
00:48:55.100 Religious opinions
00:48:55.820 or political opinions?
00:48:56.520 Political opinions,
00:48:57.180 like,
00:48:57.360 such as Catholic.
00:48:58.760 Oh,
00:48:59.020 certainly.
00:48:59.620 Yeah,
00:48:59.940 certainly.
00:49:00.360 I mean,
00:49:01.240 one thing I will say
00:49:03.700 about going to a left-wing school
00:49:05.260 or being in a left-wing state,
00:49:07.360 I think it can be very helpful.
00:49:09.260 I am from New York.
00:49:10.760 I went to one of the most
00:49:12.520 left-wing schools
00:49:13.200 in the United States.
00:49:14.060 I lived in Los Angeles.
00:49:15.160 I've been around libs
00:49:16.060 statistically my entire life,
00:49:18.100 you know,
00:49:18.360 just in a dominant liberal culture,
00:49:20.180 and it did help me
00:49:21.300 to form my views of things
00:49:22.780 because you're confronted constantly
00:49:25.460 with all of the liberal opinions,
00:49:27.700 right?
00:49:27.800 There is no liberal opinion
00:49:28.980 I have not heard.
00:49:30.740 The libs have not heard
00:49:31.920 very many of the conservative opinions
00:49:33.840 unless they have the misfortune
00:49:35.180 of being stuck in an elevator with me,
00:49:36.740 in which case they might have.
00:49:38.440 But it gives you this opportunity
00:49:39.620 where you say,
00:49:40.120 look,
00:49:40.240 if I'm going to disagree
00:49:41.280 with one of these liberals,
00:49:42.920 I really need to have an answer
00:49:44.600 because they're going to come at me
00:49:45.680 with bullets,
00:49:46.660 rhetorical bullets at least,
00:49:48.140 maybe physical ones too.
00:49:49.160 And so that caused me
00:49:51.260 to do some of my own reading.
00:49:52.780 Some sort of those small groups
00:49:54.620 of conservatives at school
00:49:55.720 really helped me.
00:49:56.580 Edmund Burke
00:49:57.660 really helped me.
00:49:59.100 Lewis Chesterton,
00:50:00.800 who also,
00:50:01.440 there is overlap there
00:50:02.260 with religion.
00:50:03.760 Michael Oakeshott,
00:50:04.840 I felt,
00:50:05.160 was an important
00:50:05.800 philosophical influence.
00:50:07.380 Good old Uncle Aristotle
00:50:08.380 and Uncle Plato,
00:50:09.220 I think,
00:50:09.480 are very important.
00:50:10.840 You know,
00:50:11.620 Ben Shapiro made this point
00:50:13.840 to me once,
00:50:14.580 which is,
00:50:15.020 I said,
00:50:15.320 Ben,
00:50:15.540 I've only read one or two books
00:50:16.900 on Christopher Columbus,
00:50:18.040 and people are calling me up
00:50:19.260 to be an expert on TV
00:50:20.540 about Christopher Columbus.
00:50:21.480 And he said,
00:50:22.460 well,
00:50:22.620 Michael,
00:50:22.880 the reason for that is
00:50:23.700 if you read one book
00:50:25.240 on anything,
00:50:26.200 you know more about it
00:50:27.280 than 99% of people.
00:50:29.140 And so you're not going
00:50:29.900 to learn these things.
00:50:30.760 It's true.
00:50:31.420 It's true.
00:50:32.460 You're not going to learn
00:50:33.420 these things very likely
00:50:34.360 in the classroom.
00:50:35.220 But if you go out
00:50:36.280 and you say,
00:50:36.780 well,
00:50:36.900 I heard about this.
00:50:37.580 I'd like an answer to this.
00:50:38.420 And you read a book
00:50:39.080 or two on it,
00:50:39.920 and then you talk to people,
00:50:41.400 you know,
00:50:41.580 and you find sort of
00:50:42.480 affinity groups on that,
00:50:43.640 you will be able
00:50:44.260 to educate yourself
00:50:45.260 very,
00:50:46.000 very quickly,
00:50:46.420 much better than
00:50:46.960 your liberal colleagues.
00:50:47.760 Thank you.
00:50:56.480 Hello,
00:50:56.920 Michael.
00:50:57.180 How are you?
00:50:58.300 Hello.
00:50:58.580 I'm doing well.
00:50:59.260 I'm doing better now
00:50:59.980 than I'm talking to you.
00:51:00.900 Is that mic on?
00:51:02.280 I don't know.
00:51:03.960 My name is Clinton,
00:51:05.880 and I have a kind of
00:51:09.020 philosophical question.
00:51:11.220 So obviously the right,
00:51:13.140 pro-choice.
00:51:14.320 I mean,
00:51:14.500 oh my God,
00:51:15.100 pro-life.
00:51:15.460 And as well as
00:51:17.720 more in favor
00:51:19.840 of small government
00:51:21.620 than the larger government.
00:51:24.440 Okay?
00:51:24.840 So in that respect,
00:51:27.220 as far as your position
00:51:28.320 on the right,
00:51:28.920 being a Catholic
00:51:29.520 and everything,
00:51:31.580 if it came down
00:51:33.040 to abortion,
00:51:38.240 another way,
00:51:39.120 okay,
00:51:39.280 if the right were
00:51:40.240 to take more power
00:51:41.980 in Congress
00:51:43.280 and everything,
00:51:44.360 and it came
00:51:45.940 to a point
00:51:46.580 where it was
00:51:49.000 the reverse,
00:51:49.800 where we could now
00:51:50.880 make it pro-life
00:51:53.280 like across
00:51:54.340 the United States
00:51:55.240 or we could keep it
00:51:56.740 at the
00:51:58.240 smaller governmental
00:52:00.240 level
00:52:00.900 where,
00:52:02.740 what do you think
00:52:05.100 should be done?
00:52:05.800 I am not
00:52:06.560 for small government.
00:52:07.880 I'm for limited government,
00:52:09.380 but I'm not
00:52:09.860 for small government.
00:52:10.820 There is no
00:52:11.360 small government
00:52:11.980 in a country
00:52:12.480 of 330 million people
00:52:13.820 with a global empire.
00:52:14.880 So I think
00:52:15.760 that government
00:52:16.180 ought to be
00:52:16.860 within its proper limits.
00:52:19.140 And I think
00:52:19.480 protecting life
00:52:20.560 is,
00:52:21.300 if that is not
00:52:22.180 within the proper
00:52:23.120 limits of government,
00:52:23.940 then there are
00:52:24.380 no proper limits
00:52:25.140 of government.
00:52:25.760 And so I am
00:52:26.720 absolutely for,
00:52:28.360 I think there's
00:52:29.080 a strong argument
00:52:30.000 that the 14th Amendment,
00:52:31.740 as it is written
00:52:32.600 and ratified,
00:52:33.680 outlaws abortion.
00:52:34.660 I think Robbie George
00:52:35.580 and John Finnis
00:52:36.340 made that point
00:52:36.960 very well
00:52:37.640 in an amicus brief
00:52:38.400 on the Dobbs decision.
00:52:39.280 If there were
00:52:41.000 a law
00:52:42.240 at the national level
00:52:43.120 to outlaw abortion,
00:52:44.200 even if it in some sense
00:52:45.460 grew the government,
00:52:46.260 I would be totally fine
00:52:47.400 with that in principle.
00:52:49.000 Now as a prudential
00:52:49.920 or practical matter,
00:52:50.960 that might not be able
00:52:51.640 to work,
00:52:52.100 and so you try
00:52:53.200 to protect life
00:52:54.000 where you can.
00:52:55.000 But in principle,
00:52:55.680 I see absolutely
00:52:56.500 no problem with it.
00:52:58.860 One last thing.
00:53:01.240 So I'm constantly
00:53:02.600 thrust into these situations
00:53:04.780 where I'm trying
00:53:06.280 to debate,
00:53:08.540 if you will,
00:53:09.320 people on the left,
00:53:10.920 not in an aggressive fashion,
00:53:13.000 just to kind of,
00:53:13.900 you know,
00:53:14.120 hey, this is my thought,
00:53:15.200 what, you know,
00:53:15.660 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:53:17.020 And I find that
00:53:18.120 if I don't say
00:53:19.340 exactly what they say,
00:53:21.140 what they want me to say,
00:53:22.320 or like,
00:53:22.640 what's your view on this?
00:53:23.320 And I'm like,
00:53:23.600 well, I kind of think this,
00:53:24.800 but also,
00:53:25.720 then all of a sudden,
00:53:26.420 I'm a bigot,
00:53:27.100 I'm this, I'm that.
00:53:28.160 And then there's like
00:53:29.300 an army of them.
00:53:32.260 How do I
00:53:33.060 de-escalate?
00:53:36.300 How do I continue?
00:53:38.080 I mean,
00:53:38.280 do I just walk away?
00:53:39.560 Do I stand there?
00:53:40.320 I happen to be on stage
00:53:41.440 with a guy
00:53:41.920 who managed to
00:53:43.260 have a hot confrontation
00:53:44.960 with one of the top libs
00:53:46.440 in the country
00:53:47.120 and did de-escalate it.
00:53:49.420 So I,
00:53:50.240 I got it,
00:53:50.920 I had a little confrontation
00:53:52.500 with Jon Stewart
00:53:53.360 a couple,
00:53:54.600 a couple weeks ago
00:53:55.160 and at this point now.
00:53:56.740 And this guy
00:53:57.760 was just coming at me
00:53:59.140 so hard.
00:54:00.320 How could you come?
00:54:01.600 You're just a troll.
00:54:02.440 You don't care about
00:54:03.540 any of this stuff.
00:54:04.460 You're just here for cloud.
00:54:05.560 I said,
00:54:05.960 Jon,
00:54:06.260 which event was this?
00:54:07.400 You know,
00:54:07.600 this was,
00:54:08.240 this was the burn pits.
00:54:09.760 This was the burn pits bill
00:54:10.820 was going through
00:54:11.880 and it was the funding
00:54:12.460 for the burn pits
00:54:13.240 and Senator Cruz
00:54:14.080 had initially voted for it,
00:54:16.700 but then pulled his vote
00:54:17.660 and there was some question
00:54:18.380 about his motives,
00:54:19.380 right?
00:54:19.600 And this was the,
00:54:20.140 this was the issue
00:54:20.700 that I had
00:54:21.260 was that,
00:54:22.720 and I said,
00:54:23.280 Jon,
00:54:23.840 I said,
00:54:24.760 Jon,
00:54:25.120 I'm going to give you
00:54:26.820 the benefit of the doubt
00:54:28.040 and I'm going to say,
00:54:29.020 I don't question
00:54:30.100 your motives on this
00:54:31.060 because Jon Stewart
00:54:32.340 has been great
00:54:33.000 when it came to the 9-11
00:54:34.200 first responders.
00:54:35.240 He has.
00:54:36.380 And I wasn't questioning
00:54:37.780 his motives
00:54:38.560 on the burn pit victims,
00:54:40.260 by the way,
00:54:40.820 and not to get into the issue,
00:54:42.020 that's veterans
00:54:42.540 who have had
00:54:43.320 smoke inhalation
00:54:44.340 because of the burn pits
00:54:45.380 in Afghanistan,
00:54:46.220 Iraq.
00:54:46.820 I've had friends
00:54:47.740 from when I served
00:54:48.420 in the Navy
00:54:48.840 who had gone through that.
00:54:51.020 I have friends who,
00:54:53.160 you know,
00:54:53.700 girl,
00:54:54.000 I knew my unit,
00:54:54.700 she was losing her toenails,
00:54:55.940 losing her fingernails,
00:54:56.740 her hair
00:54:57.200 because of this stuff.
00:54:58.460 I know a guy who,
00:54:59.560 you know,
00:54:59.700 he can't go over
00:55:00.320 a certain altitude
00:55:01.060 because he just can't
00:55:02.440 because it was long.
00:55:04.080 But what Stewart was doing
00:55:06.200 was saying,
00:55:06.680 well,
00:55:07.180 that Cruz had pulled his vote
00:55:08.520 not because of a fiscal reason
00:55:09.880 to me as well
00:55:10.600 and I'm no huge fan
00:55:12.980 of Pat Toomey
00:55:13.840 that because they hated
00:55:16.240 the troops
00:55:16.700 and I said,
00:55:17.060 Jon,
00:55:17.300 what I did was
00:55:18.200 I showed him respect
00:55:19.060 and I said,
00:55:20.280 I respect your motives
00:55:21.360 and I respect your ideals
00:55:22.860 but if you want
00:55:24.260 to come together,
00:55:25.240 I'll work with you
00:55:26.540 but we have to put
00:55:28.540 the veterans first.
00:55:30.320 We have to put
00:55:30.720 the people first
00:55:31.680 and in doing that
00:55:32.640 and showing respect,
00:55:33.760 we actually did
00:55:35.160 a great video afterwards
00:55:36.280 and the bill did pass.
00:55:38.500 I'm a veteran as well
00:55:39.660 so thank you for your service.
00:55:41.080 Thank you for your service.
00:55:43.060 One final question.
00:55:45.220 Why do people
00:55:46.080 even try to argue
00:55:47.280 with you guys?
00:55:48.100 We've got a long line
00:55:49.100 behind you.
00:55:49.800 Why do people debate?
00:55:52.280 We'll talk after.
00:55:53.280 We'll be around.
00:55:53.940 We'll be around.
00:55:54.500 Thank you.
00:55:55.760 Hi.
00:55:56.540 So I guess
00:55:58.160 my question deals with
00:55:59.700 so like in general,
00:56:01.560 like you said,
00:56:02.480 you support limited government.
00:56:03.920 How does this tie
00:56:05.620 into foreign policy?
00:56:07.340 Because often I think
00:56:08.520 there's like a trend
00:56:09.880 with conservatives
00:56:10.540 since Reagan
00:56:11.220 to say they support
00:56:12.700 limited government
00:56:13.400 while also
00:56:14.740 propping up
00:56:15.820 this huge military
00:56:17.580 and in my opinion,
00:56:19.140 like often like
00:56:20.380 an empire
00:56:21.540 that edges
00:56:23.080 on imperialistic.
00:56:23.960 like the U.S.
00:56:25.160 does things.
00:56:26.240 It's a fair question.
00:56:26.960 It doesn't just edge.
00:56:28.120 America is an empire.
00:56:29.400 It's a global empire.
00:56:31.180 Yeah.
00:56:31.500 In many ways,
00:56:32.480 people,
00:56:33.020 there's actually an argument
00:56:34.180 I heard recently
00:56:34.740 that say 500 years
00:56:36.900 from now,
00:56:37.580 there may not be
00:56:39.060 any meaningful distinction
00:56:40.140 between the British Empire
00:56:41.320 and the American Empire
00:56:42.320 and they may just lump it
00:56:43.240 into a British-American era.
00:56:44.960 So do you,
00:56:47.200 how do you think
00:56:47.700 we should conduct
00:56:48.960 ourselves on the world stage?
00:56:50.240 Like keeping in like
00:56:51.520 morals in question,
00:56:52.760 like specifically one thing
00:56:53.780 is like America
00:56:54.780 supports things like,
00:56:56.380 supports like Israel's
00:56:57.680 like expansion to Palestine
00:56:58.880 and all the human rights
00:57:00.340 atrocities that happen there
00:57:01.440 or like,
00:57:02.900 I mean,
00:57:03.280 yeah,
00:57:03.460 that's one of the big ones
00:57:05.060 or like,
00:57:06.840 like our covert interventions
00:57:10.260 in Latin America,
00:57:11.440 all that stuff.
00:57:11.980 I mean,
00:57:12.120 like do you think that like
00:57:13.300 as conservatives,
00:57:14.800 you have a duty
00:57:16.640 to stand up
00:57:17.420 and protest these
00:57:19.280 like imperial ambitions?
00:57:21.240 I know like paleocons
00:57:22.240 would say like,
00:57:22.720 oh yes,
00:57:23.180 but neocons don't.
00:57:24.000 I mean,
00:57:24.080 I guess I'm wondering
00:57:24.500 where you stand
00:57:25.300 in between that.
00:57:26.720 Like,
00:57:27.120 how do you think
00:57:27.860 we should conduct ourselves?
00:57:29.500 I mean,
00:57:29.780 I won't speak for Michael,
00:57:30.940 but for me,
00:57:31.500 it's America first,
00:57:32.460 right?
00:57:32.640 For me,
00:57:32.900 it's just America first
00:57:33.900 and this idea that
00:57:34.880 if we're going to,
00:57:36.960 if we're going to be
00:57:40.820 spending money
00:57:41.420 to defend borders,
00:57:42.840 it ought to be borders
00:57:43.840 that benefit Americans,
00:57:45.420 not benefit the borders
00:57:46.880 of any other country first.
00:57:49.720 If we're going to be
00:57:50.560 spending money on aid,
00:57:52.060 then I want that aid
00:57:52.840 going to Florida
00:57:53.960 and yes,
00:57:54.600 also to Puerto Rico.
00:57:55.920 All right,
00:57:56.160 President Biden,
00:57:56.680 he's there right now.
00:57:57.440 God bless him.
00:57:58.140 God bless him.
00:57:58.940 I just forgot that Florida
00:57:59.780 got hit as well.
00:58:01.520 But this idea that
00:58:03.220 we need to be all things
00:58:04.420 for all people,
00:58:05.140 we just don't have to,
00:58:05.840 like practical matter,
00:58:07.080 we don't have the money
00:58:07.600 in the bank, folks,
00:58:08.900 right?
00:58:09.100 We're printing money
00:58:10.260 like crazy
00:58:11.440 and the neocons
00:58:12.980 want to do it
00:58:13.620 for the defense contractors.
00:58:16.560 The libs want to do it
00:58:17.840 for universities
00:58:18.640 and all of their pet projects
00:58:20.520 and at the end of the day,
00:58:21.620 we've been broke
00:58:22.520 for a very,
00:58:23.400 very long time
00:58:24.480 and that's why it is
00:58:25.880 that the financial security
00:58:27.520 of the millennials
00:58:29.360 and the Zoomers
00:58:30.360 is very,
00:58:31.440 very much
00:58:32.000 in a crisis
00:58:32.760 because the people
00:58:34.160 who came before you
00:58:35.280 were completely
00:58:36.780 irresponsible financially,
00:58:38.660 completely irresponsible.
00:58:40.440 That is why
00:58:41.360 our life expectancy
00:58:43.200 is going down.
00:58:44.200 That's why the economy
00:58:45.080 is in the sorry state
00:58:45.900 that it's in.
00:58:46.660 That's why the U.S. dollar
00:58:47.700 is burgeoning
00:58:49.220 on perhaps
00:58:49.840 falling off the face
00:58:51.600 of the global charts
00:58:53.100 in terms of the world
00:58:53.800 reserve currency,
00:58:55.040 right?
00:58:55.420 That's because of our own
00:58:56.600 financial irresponsibility
00:58:58.140 and they're going to sit there
00:58:59.280 and blame you
00:59:00.100 and say it's all your fault.
00:59:01.600 No, it's not.
00:59:02.180 It's their fault.
00:59:03.000 There is.
00:59:03.760 That's a good point.
00:59:04.420 There is also this fact
00:59:08.580 of the fallen world
00:59:09.400 which is that
00:59:09.900 great strong nations
00:59:10.840 become empires
00:59:11.660 and that's just
00:59:12.260 sort of what happens
00:59:13.180 and you can try
00:59:13.840 to stave it off
00:59:14.520 a little bit
00:59:15.020 and you can try
00:59:15.740 to pull back
00:59:16.280 here or there
00:59:16.840 but as Jack pointed out
00:59:18.840 the only way
00:59:19.760 that our economy
00:59:21.160 is staying afloat
00:59:22.640 right now
00:59:22.960 is because
00:59:23.440 the U.S. dollar
00:59:24.720 is the global
00:59:25.320 reserve currency
00:59:26.200 and the way
00:59:27.020 that the U.S. dollar
00:59:27.600 is the global
00:59:28.140 reserve currency
00:59:28.800 is because we're
00:59:29.380 the global hegemon
00:59:30.220 that governs
00:59:31.400 a worldwide empire
00:59:32.960 and so you raise
00:59:34.200 a question about
00:59:34.860 America's relationship
00:59:35.800 with Israel
00:59:36.400 America's made a decision
00:59:37.820 to support Israel
00:59:38.840 and to support
00:59:39.380 the existence of Israel
00:59:40.400 in a hostile neighborhood
00:59:41.660 where a lot of neighbors
00:59:42.460 want to destroy Israel
00:59:44.060 and so you might say
00:59:45.480 well I don't like that
00:59:46.640 I think the United States
00:59:47.620 should pull away
00:59:48.560 from Israel
00:59:49.080 you know
00:59:49.400 whatever your view
00:59:51.420 is on that particular
00:59:52.520 relationship
00:59:53.480 it is simply a fact
00:59:54.520 that nations
00:59:55.040 are going to have
00:59:55.920 alliances
00:59:56.680 and nations
00:59:57.580 you know
00:59:58.220 certainly an empire
00:59:59.400 can't govern
01:00:00.160 the world
01:00:01.000 if it doesn't have alliances
01:00:02.040 so you bring up
01:00:02.640 covert action
01:00:03.560 in Latin America
01:00:04.400 and the United States
01:00:05.900 saw that it was
01:00:06.780 in its interest
01:00:07.300 to prevent
01:00:07.780 communist infiltration
01:00:08.940 in Latin America
01:00:10.000 and so we went in there
01:00:11.060 and propped up
01:00:11.920 some guys
01:00:12.320 that we thought
01:00:12.720 were more favorable
01:00:13.380 to our interests
01:00:14.240 I think nations do that
01:00:16.000 throughout the history
01:00:16.600 of the world
01:00:17.040 and empires
01:00:17.940 certainly have to do that
01:00:19.000 so that's just a fact
01:00:21.460 and would that we
01:00:22.500 could all return
01:00:23.300 you know
01:00:23.620 to some idyllic time
01:00:24.560 in the past
01:00:25.040 that never existed
01:00:26.460 by the way
01:00:27.020 where we didn't have
01:00:28.260 to worry about
01:00:28.780 these things
01:00:29.220 but we do
01:00:30.060 and so to me
01:00:31.440 the question is less
01:00:32.440 can we
01:00:33.580 you know
01:00:33.900 I don't know
01:00:34.260 is it wise
01:00:35.000 to abandon
01:00:35.480 the American empire
01:00:36.160 could we even
01:00:36.880 abandon the American empire
01:00:38.000 but the question is
01:00:39.040 how are we going to
01:00:39.860 play the hand
01:00:40.500 that we are dealt
01:00:41.340 and how can we do that
01:00:42.320 in a just way
01:00:43.100 and in a way
01:00:43.780 that's not going to
01:00:44.660 throw our own citizens
01:00:46.440 out the window
01:00:47.000 and destabilize
01:00:48.880 the entire world
01:00:49.800 and a lot of that
01:00:51.020 does come down
01:00:51.620 to prudence
01:00:52.120 and judgment
01:00:52.540 and competence
01:00:53.200 and one of my issues
01:00:54.680 by the way
01:00:55.040 when we talk about
01:00:55.760 we alluded earlier
01:00:56.740 to the potential nuclear war
01:00:57.940 that we're facing
01:00:58.500 because the United States
01:00:59.540 has just stumbled
01:01:00.200 into a proxy war
01:01:01.160 with a nuclear
01:01:02.500 former superpower
01:01:03.420 but one of the issues
01:01:05.260 here is just
01:01:06.040 sheer competence
01:01:06.780 and so again
01:01:07.980 you know
01:01:08.340 you bring up
01:01:09.040 really sort of
01:01:09.600 ideological issues
01:01:10.780 you know
01:01:11.900 Israel
01:01:12.640 or Latin America
01:01:14.460 or whatever
01:01:14.780 but there is just
01:01:15.600 a level of competence
01:01:16.500 if you're going to
01:01:16.920 have a global empire
01:01:17.740 you need competent
01:01:18.700 managers
01:01:19.180 and unfortunately
01:01:20.040 not just the elected
01:01:21.280 officials
01:01:21.640 not just Joe Biden
01:01:22.600 but the deep state
01:01:23.840 you know
01:01:24.100 the permanent government
01:01:24.960 I would add
01:01:25.560 I would add
01:01:26.400 that I actually
01:01:27.640 do support
01:01:28.380 covert operations
01:01:29.860 in Latin America
01:01:30.620 specifically
01:01:31.340 the ones that
01:01:32.780 I would support
01:01:33.280 right now
01:01:33.820 is just south
01:01:34.800 of the border
01:01:35.260 these organizations
01:01:36.180 called the
01:01:36.840 narco-terrorist cartels
01:01:38.320 and I would
01:01:39.020 absolutely support
01:01:40.220 covert activity
01:01:41.020 to take every
01:01:41.920 single one of them out
01:01:42.760 or overt
01:01:45.760 whichever
01:01:46.240 I'm good
01:01:48.380 I always find
01:01:49.560 the foreign policy
01:01:50.480 questions are
01:01:51.220 really frustrating
01:01:52.020 because there's
01:01:53.080 no easy
01:01:54.260 dunk answer
01:01:55.140 to it
01:01:55.500 it's just
01:01:56.000 extraordinarily
01:01:56.840 complicated
01:01:57.600 and to deny
01:01:58.800 America as an empire
01:01:59.840 is just to deny
01:02:00.660 reality
01:02:01.220 and so what are you
01:02:02.140 going to do
01:02:02.460 you're going to
01:02:02.840 try to keep it afloat
01:02:03.700 right if we're going
01:02:04.200 to nation build
01:02:04.740 and have a global empire
01:02:05.880 you'd think we'd at least
01:02:06.740 be nation building
01:02:07.620 in nations that
01:02:08.900 I don't know
01:02:09.300 share a contiguous
01:02:10.120 continent with us
01:02:11.060 maybe
01:02:11.320 that keep sending
01:02:12.260 we don't have
01:02:12.820 a narco state
01:02:13.560 that's just operating
01:02:14.520 in
01:02:14.980 I mean there's
01:02:15.460 you understand
01:02:15.980 there's cartel wars
01:02:17.060 going on in Mexico
01:02:18.580 right now
01:02:19.520 that affect Delaware
01:02:21.220 right that you know
01:02:22.520 as far away
01:02:23.140 as we are from the border
01:02:23.980 they're actually
01:02:24.780 that actually affects
01:02:25.980 right where we're
01:02:26.860 Newark Delaware
01:02:27.760 that's because the
01:02:28.800 Florida governor
01:02:29.380 is about to send
01:02:30.120 a plane load
01:02:30.680 to Rehoboth Beach
01:02:31.520 so
01:02:31.800 I'm waiting for that
01:02:32.700 I'm waiting for it
01:02:34.260 okay
01:02:35.820 well thank you
01:02:36.740 good question
01:02:37.420 it's a good question
01:02:39.060 with just a sort of
01:02:40.420 complicated answer
01:02:42.580 of resignation
01:02:43.160 you know
01:02:43.580 it's sort of
01:02:44.020 the way that empires
01:02:44.700 are governed
01:02:45.240 hey
01:02:48.800 thank you for coming
01:02:49.680 out here
01:02:49.980 I know it's hard
01:02:50.560 for conservatives
01:02:51.220 to come to
01:02:51.880 more liberal
01:02:53.180 leaning areas
01:02:53.720 like a college
01:02:54.400 so thank you
01:02:55.320 I'd like to begin
01:02:56.840 with first
01:02:57.360 I agreed very much
01:02:58.280 with what you said
01:02:58.840 about the
01:02:59.520 overreach of corporations
01:03:01.300 like Google
01:03:01.880 and Amazon
01:03:02.360 who in many
01:03:03.420 instances
01:03:04.280 control our lives
01:03:05.160 more so than
01:03:05.980 our actual
01:03:06.980 elected government
01:03:07.860 and our elected officials
01:03:08.900 with that being said
01:03:10.580 why do so many
01:03:11.500 conservatives
01:03:12.120 tend to support
01:03:13.020 like laissez-faire
01:03:14.200 economic models
01:03:15.180 and deregulation
01:03:15.980 of the market
01:03:16.460 while deregulation
01:03:17.880 is really what
01:03:18.600 allows these companies
01:03:19.580 to control
01:03:20.140 every aspect
01:03:20.980 of our lives
01:03:21.700 more so
01:03:22.340 than the government
01:03:23.420 that we vote for
01:03:24.360 do you think
01:03:25.660 it is moral
01:03:26.260 and just
01:03:26.780 that private companies
01:03:28.040 have that ability
01:03:29.420 to control our lives
01:03:30.640 more so
01:03:31.560 than our elected government
01:03:32.660 surely not
01:03:33.680 and I think
01:03:33.960 it was a mistake
01:03:34.540 that conservatives
01:03:35.100 did it
01:03:35.620 I mean part of the reason
01:03:37.100 the conservatives
01:03:37.680 did it
01:03:38.020 we're working on it
01:03:38.700 by the way
01:03:39.120 well this is
01:03:40.260 something that
01:03:40.900 you know
01:03:41.520 gets into this
01:03:42.120 sort of argument
01:03:42.820 you know
01:03:43.580 we talked about
01:03:44.140 civil war earlier
01:03:44.820 but the other
01:03:45.720 civil proxy war
01:03:46.740 within conservatism
01:03:47.960 right now
01:03:48.440 is this sort of
01:03:49.580 rise of the new rights
01:03:51.480 versus the
01:03:52.580 there's the old right
01:03:53.840 there's the
01:03:54.900 neoconservatives
01:03:56.480 there's new liberals
01:03:57.320 there's all these
01:03:57.980 different little pockets
01:03:59.040 you know I've heard
01:03:59.720 obscure political monikers
01:04:01.300 are the right wing version
01:04:02.360 of gender pronouns
01:04:03.380 it's true
01:04:03.920 there's like 10,000
01:04:04.780 of them
01:04:05.120 I'm a paleo neo
01:04:07.400 paleo neo
01:04:08.400 yeah which is a little both
01:04:09.440 so there is a huge movement
01:04:11.820 right now
01:04:12.480 in within the right
01:04:14.020 and I think this is one
01:04:14.960 that's also doing well
01:04:15.840 politically
01:04:16.300 that is focusing
01:04:18.000 predominantly on
01:04:19.440 on two issues
01:04:20.520 those issues being
01:04:21.460 immigration and trade
01:04:22.840 and because those issues
01:04:25.540 are getting such a focus
01:04:26.780 that
01:04:27.880 and you see that
01:04:29.120 you saw this with
01:04:29.660 President Trump
01:04:30.200 you see it a lot
01:04:30.920 with Governor Ron DeSantis
01:04:32.500 and you're seeing it
01:04:33.120 throughout the country
01:04:33.800 that
01:04:34.780 conservatives
01:04:36.880 aren't scared anymore
01:04:38.400 of using the tools
01:04:39.720 of government
01:04:40.240 to secure our rights
01:04:41.260 you know
01:04:43.340 you want to do it justly
01:04:44.560 you don't want to do it
01:04:45.260 with capriciousness
01:04:46.700 or you know
01:04:47.480 in an arbitrary way
01:04:48.820 but you
01:04:49.260 except the drug dealers
01:04:50.140 that's right
01:04:50.840 except for them
01:04:51.380 then you just bomb them
01:04:52.120 but you want to do it
01:04:54.220 in a way that is just
01:04:55.580 and prudent
01:04:56.240 but yes
01:04:56.800 you ought to wield
01:04:58.080 the power that the
01:04:58.800 people give you
01:05:00.280 on those happy occasions
01:05:01.480 that they do give it to you
01:05:02.740 and so you know
01:05:04.120 why did deregulation happen
01:05:06.060 in part
01:05:06.980 it was a sort of triumph
01:05:08.060 of the liberal establishment
01:05:09.140 because even the right
01:05:09.980 adopted a lot of their views
01:05:11.300 but in part
01:05:12.040 it was also to spur growth
01:05:13.260 and economic growth
01:05:14.080 is a good thing
01:05:14.860 and much maligned
01:05:16.240 as the neoconservatives
01:05:17.340 are these days
01:05:18.100 the OG neoconservatives
01:05:20.000 were actually pretty
01:05:20.720 thoughtful people
01:05:21.420 and Irving Kristol
01:05:22.680 made this point
01:05:23.300 he said
01:05:23.640 the right in America
01:05:25.260 conservatism
01:05:26.000 is nationalism
01:05:27.160 religion
01:05:27.940 and economic growth
01:05:29.340 and I think most people
01:05:30.480 on the new right
01:05:31.140 would actually agree
01:05:32.240 with neocon Irving Kristol
01:05:34.320 on that
01:05:34.720 and economic growth
01:05:36.600 is very important there too
01:05:37.940 and so unfortunately
01:05:39.160 the desire
01:05:40.360 for ever higher GDP growth
01:05:42.300 basically mortgaged away
01:05:43.960 our political rights
01:05:44.860 and allowed a bunch of
01:05:45.620 woke oligarchs
01:05:46.800 in C-suites
01:05:47.900 to run roughshod
01:05:49.400 over our traditional
01:05:50.120 way of life
01:05:50.720 so I agree
01:05:51.380 that's a huge problem
01:05:52.220 and we need to take it back
01:05:53.260 well I agree with
01:05:56.100 what you just said
01:05:56.720 but it is freedom
01:05:57.780 to have economic freedom
01:06:00.460 and be required
01:06:01.440 to work some people
01:06:02.480 over 50 hours a week
01:06:04.180 and the freedom
01:06:04.960 to just be
01:06:06.340 an unwavering consumer
01:06:08.280 of products
01:06:09.000 like in laissez-faire capitalism
01:06:10.860 is that really
01:06:12.800 the freedom
01:06:13.440 that you want
01:06:14.440 conservatives to
01:06:15.760 well it's not an end
01:06:17.080 it's not an end
01:06:17.760 but it is a means
01:06:18.540 and I think this is
01:06:19.380 where people got
01:06:20.040 a little screwed up
01:06:21.500 with laissez-faire capitalism
01:06:23.000 and the sort of
01:06:23.860 worship of markets
01:06:24.740 markets are a very
01:06:25.920 efficient means
01:06:26.740 toward political flourishing
01:06:28.520 but they're not an end
01:06:29.840 so you don't want
01:06:31.340 to make markets
01:06:32.180 an end unto themselves
01:06:33.560 having material wealth
01:06:35.280 and prosperity
01:06:35.760 is a good thing
01:06:36.400 but it's not an end
01:06:37.280 if you make that
01:06:38.260 the end of your society
01:06:39.120 you just worship
01:06:39.780 the way I like to put it
01:06:40.980 is we are a people
01:06:42.140 with an economy
01:06:42.940 not the other way around
01:06:44.020 to sort of paraphrase
01:06:46.020 on Reagan's idea
01:06:47.740 about the government
01:06:48.320 that the economy
01:06:49.680 is a tool
01:06:50.260 it's a tool
01:06:51.120 that can help us
01:06:52.000 it's a tool
01:06:52.520 that can make
01:06:53.440 our lives better
01:06:54.220 but if our lives
01:06:55.680 get to the point
01:06:56.440 where all we're doing
01:06:57.340 is serving that economy
01:06:58.820 in the name
01:06:59.640 of meanless
01:07:00.580 and mindless consumption
01:07:04.240 like you're talking about
01:07:05.280 then you're just some
01:07:06.880 you're just some insect
01:07:07.940 at that point
01:07:08.780 and you're a worker drone
01:07:10.180 serving the queen
01:07:11.800 of the colony
01:07:12.480 and you know
01:07:13.420 she has the eggs
01:07:14.320 you eventually die
01:07:15.440 right
01:07:15.980 you never even get
01:07:16.560 to eat the honey
01:07:17.240 you're not having kids
01:07:18.460 of your own
01:07:18.860 she has the kids
01:07:19.740 and so we should
01:07:21.040 as conservatives
01:07:22.120 or the new right
01:07:23.240 or the new conservative movement
01:07:24.280 whatever you want to call it
01:07:25.100 be working towards
01:07:26.120 the kind of society
01:07:26.940 where we can get
01:07:28.000 back to the point
01:07:28.760 where you ought to be able
01:07:30.440 to have a family
01:07:31.520 and survive on a single income
01:07:33.900 where people can
01:07:34.920 raise their kids
01:07:36.000 as they see fit
01:07:37.360 all right
01:07:45.060 we'll have to chat after
01:07:45.860 I guess
01:07:46.200 they're withholding
01:07:46.800 the microphone
01:07:47.360 yeah I'm looking
01:07:48.480 I've got a clock back here
01:07:49.600 and I see a long line
01:07:50.420 so
01:07:50.680 hey what's going on guys
01:07:52.320 um
01:07:52.680 just want to say
01:07:53.480 I appreciate you
01:07:54.100 coming out here to campus
01:07:55.020 especially at UD
01:07:55.840 um
01:07:56.300 there was a lot of people
01:07:57.320 that did not want you guys
01:07:58.320 to come
01:07:58.660 but I'm a firm believer
01:08:00.300 I didn't want him to come either
01:08:01.400 just for
01:08:01.820 just to be
01:08:02.240 I was like
01:08:02.740 I was like what
01:08:03.520 I gotta share a stage with him
01:08:04.680 and I saw you come out
01:08:05.720 I was like
01:08:05.880 oh I've seen him before
01:08:06.660 yeah
01:08:07.260 so
01:08:07.980 okay
01:08:08.900 so my question is
01:08:10.260 um
01:08:10.520 since the conception of America
01:08:12.740 right
01:08:13.180 we had the idea that
01:08:14.280 we were being untreated
01:08:15.160 we were being treated unfairly
01:08:16.560 by Britain right
01:08:17.400 so we said
01:08:17.920 okay by any means necessary
01:08:19.640 let's go ahead and rebel
01:08:20.960 against the establishment
01:08:21.880 let's establish our own country
01:08:23.580 our new nation
01:08:24.420 in the way that we see fit
01:08:25.700 why
01:08:27.060 was it different
01:08:28.180 do you think
01:08:28.860 in uh
01:08:29.780 the 50s or 60s
01:08:30.680 let me not even
01:08:31.700 presume your opinion already
01:08:33.020 but what do you think
01:08:34.180 about figures like
01:08:35.100 Malcolm X
01:08:35.720 or the Black Panther
01:08:36.580 who basically said
01:08:37.840 the same thing
01:08:38.560 we're being untreated
01:08:39.400 treated unfairly
01:08:40.320 so by any means necessary
01:08:41.660 we have the right
01:08:42.440 to fight more
01:08:42.960 you did just put the words
01:08:44.160 of Malcolm X
01:08:44.900 into the mouth
01:08:45.500 of George Washington
01:08:46.300 which I don't think
01:08:47.060 he said that exact phrase
01:08:48.240 and they did not permit
01:08:49.620 any means necessary
01:08:50.980 they waged actually
01:08:51.960 a largely
01:08:52.660 civilized war
01:08:54.020 and preserved
01:08:54.800 the political traditions
01:08:55.800 from England
01:08:56.520 even after
01:08:57.280 overthrowing that government
01:08:59.420 in the new world
01:09:00.180 but
01:09:00.560 that aside
01:09:01.680 the point is very well taken
01:09:02.860 Jack do you want to take a crack at it
01:09:04.180 well I
01:09:05.180 I do think that
01:09:06.440 you
01:09:06.960 you raise an interesting question
01:09:09.100 and I think that
01:09:10.200 you know
01:09:10.600 for conservatives
01:09:11.300 it would be easier
01:09:12.200 to just say
01:09:12.800 oh those guys were crazy
01:09:14.020 and
01:09:14.880 they were completely insane
01:09:16.500 and
01:09:17.280 I
01:09:18.220 you know
01:09:18.600 obviously I don't condone
01:09:19.700 any of the violence
01:09:20.700 of
01:09:21.280 of the Black Panthers
01:09:22.260 but
01:09:23.160 when
01:09:23.500 what I do see though
01:09:24.720 is
01:09:25.140 I believe what you're saying
01:09:26.220 is that
01:09:26.660 this was
01:09:27.020 these were groups
01:09:27.860 and
01:09:28.120 in this case
01:09:29.660 Malcolm X
01:09:30.640 who was trying to
01:09:31.560 and Malcolm X
01:09:32.480 by the way
01:09:32.880 who left
01:09:33.660 the Nation of Islam
01:09:34.460 at one point
01:09:35.120 in order to be able to
01:09:36.260 because he thought
01:09:36.820 it was becoming
01:09:37.300 too radical
01:09:38.000 and that he wanted
01:09:39.100 to find a better life
01:09:40.280 for his people
01:09:41.100 and
01:09:41.780 they were the ones
01:09:42.640 who later had him killed
01:09:43.500 in fact
01:09:43.800 Elijah Muhammad
01:09:44.500 later on
01:09:45.580 just kind of joked about
01:09:46.740 basically ordering
01:09:48.160 the assassination
01:09:48.840 of Malcolm X
01:09:49.880 and so
01:09:50.820 you know
01:09:51.320 Jack Posobiec
01:09:52.600 goes to
01:09:53.300 University of Delaware
01:09:54.320 and you know
01:09:55.320 supports Malcolm X
01:09:56.700 is going to be the headline here
01:09:57.600 but
01:09:57.860 but when
01:09:58.660 when you look at this though
01:09:59.700 I
01:09:59.980 I think when I
01:10:00.960 when I read that story
01:10:02.080 it showed me that
01:10:03.820 even
01:10:04.420 maybe even
01:10:05.180 to an extent
01:10:05.900 and this is just my analysis
01:10:07.200 but
01:10:07.600 maybe even he realized
01:10:10.460 that again
01:10:10.900 it shouldn't just be
01:10:11.800 any means necessary
01:10:13.120 you do have to work with
01:10:14.360 to find
01:10:14.980 the practicalities
01:10:16.420 in the system
01:10:17.420 because there's always
01:10:18.440 going to be trade-offs
01:10:19.160 and that's what
01:10:19.600 Michael was just saying
01:10:20.400 in terms of foreign policy
01:10:21.400 there's always going to be trade-offs
01:10:22.620 but maybe
01:10:23.560 in by making
01:10:24.580 some of those trade-offs
01:10:25.500 rather than being
01:10:26.260 completely iconoclast
01:10:27.760 you can actually find
01:10:29.240 a better
01:10:29.720 solution
01:10:30.600 and a better result
01:10:31.720 than simply saying
01:10:33.260 you know
01:10:33.680 we've got to go
01:10:34.680 full Ted Kaczynski
01:10:35.680 on whatever
01:10:36.300 we think the problem is
01:10:37.500 it's a great point
01:10:39.580 and there is a strange
01:10:40.620 coincidence here
01:10:41.320 which is
01:10:41.740 there was a
01:10:42.560 someone joked
01:10:43.540 on Twitter
01:10:44.260 the other day
01:10:45.100 that there was going
01:10:46.620 to be a new biopic
01:10:47.600 of Malcolm X
01:10:48.800 produced by Matt Walsh
01:10:50.880 starring me
01:10:51.820 as Malcolm X
01:10:52.860 and I thought
01:10:53.880 this was sort of funny
01:10:54.680 well as you said
01:10:55.280 the Italians are
01:10:56.060 the Italians are racially ambiguous
01:10:57.320 and so this started
01:10:59.300 to go viral
01:11:00.040 and it was picked up
01:11:01.440 in entertainment blogs
01:11:02.500 and a lot of prominent
01:11:03.540 leftists
01:11:04.280 really took this seriously
01:11:06.000 so you know
01:11:06.900 I don't want to talk
01:11:07.540 myself out of a job
01:11:08.460 here by disparaging
01:11:09.440 Brother Malcolm
01:11:10.180 but
01:11:10.900 but you know
01:11:12.640 what you're saying
01:11:14.160 is how is the
01:11:15.280 revolutionary action
01:11:17.220 against a regime
01:11:18.520 different in the 1960s
01:11:20.500 than it was
01:11:21.000 in the 1770s
01:11:22.340 and I would say
01:11:23.120 it may not be different
01:11:25.640 in principle
01:11:26.560 though
01:11:27.440 there are some
01:11:28.380 distinctions to be had
01:11:29.160 but there is the
01:11:30.360 it's not just about procedure
01:11:31.580 it's about substance
01:11:32.420 as well
01:11:32.840 so then the question is
01:11:33.600 what sort of regime
01:11:34.800 is being overthrown
01:11:35.980 and with what to replace it
01:11:37.620 and I think
01:11:38.100 to broaden it out
01:11:39.120 from Malcolm X
01:11:39.860 and the black power movement
01:11:41.800 even to just the broader
01:11:42.840 new left
01:11:43.540 that was
01:11:44.200 you know
01:11:44.620 the weather underground
01:11:45.300 and all those sorts of characters
01:11:46.440 I just think that
01:11:47.480 the society that they were
01:11:48.960 trying to affect
01:11:49.740 was overtly communist
01:11:51.800 in many cases
01:11:52.780 the society was
01:11:54.020 extremely radical
01:11:55.700 was grounded in violence
01:11:57.600 and a kind of
01:11:58.200 persistent violence
01:11:59.080 and a continual
01:12:00.100 perpetual revolution
01:12:01.120 that I think
01:12:02.000 is just not preferable
01:12:03.840 to the regime
01:12:04.580 that was already in place
01:12:05.640 where improvements
01:12:06.520 could be made
01:12:07.220 and in some cases
01:12:08.280 have been made
01:12:08.900 so I think you have to look
01:12:09.960 at the specifics of it as well
01:12:11.280 it's not just
01:12:12.260 do we want to have revolution now
01:12:14.100 the question is
01:12:14.620 what are we going to do
01:12:16.240 after the revolution
01:12:17.080 some revolutions
01:12:18.200 can be perfectly fine
01:12:19.580 like the American revolution
01:12:21.400 some revolutions
01:12:22.380 turn to the terror
01:12:23.260 like the French revolution
01:12:24.380 and I don't trust
01:12:25.540 the new left
01:12:26.160 in the 1960s
01:12:27.220 to give us
01:12:27.940 the nice version of that
01:12:29.100 I expect the guillotine
01:12:30.320 from them
01:12:30.940 because they brought
01:12:31.820 bombs out anyway
01:12:32.620 Charlie had a question
01:12:33.640 about this recently
01:12:34.420 at an event
01:12:35.080 and to kind of
01:12:37.440 you know
01:12:37.820 reiterate what Charlie
01:12:38.680 would probably say
01:12:39.700 if he were here
01:12:40.220 because he said it recently
01:12:41.160 he pointed out
01:12:42.340 that the United States
01:12:43.540 did not
01:12:43.940 the founding fathers
01:12:44.820 didn't declare war
01:12:45.960 on Britain
01:12:47.000 they declared independence
01:12:48.460 right
01:12:49.160 so they were duly elected
01:12:50.540 representatives
01:12:51.120 of the colonies
01:12:51.940 they declared themselves states
01:12:53.420 they declared independence
01:12:54.880 it wasn't an act of violence
01:12:56.840 it wasn't an act of aggression
01:12:58.040 there weren't
01:12:58.980 terror strikes
01:13:00.180 on
01:13:00.920 British compounds
01:13:02.440 or anything like this
01:13:03.540 or military facilities
01:13:04.640 in any way
01:13:05.260 it was the British
01:13:06.300 that eventually
01:13:07.380 went to
01:13:08.440 Lexington and Concord
01:13:09.620 they went to
01:13:10.160 et cetera et cetera
01:13:11.120 that led to all of this
01:13:12.700 it wasn't the Americans
01:13:13.680 going around
01:13:14.460 and doing that
01:13:15.440 in the first instance
01:13:16.200 there was the Boston Massacre
01:13:18.280 we did start throwing
01:13:19.060 the rocks first
01:13:19.700 but I agree
01:13:20.320 it was just throwing rocks
01:13:21.260 it wasn't a couple rocks
01:13:22.460 that was a few rocks
01:13:23.320 but George Washington
01:13:24.080 didn't throw those rocks
01:13:25.060 you don't have
01:13:25.420 fingerprint evidence of that
01:13:26.640 good question
01:13:28.820 great question
01:13:29.320 it is a good question
01:13:30.740 seriously
01:13:31.040 I am terribly sorry
01:13:32.980 to provoke more Italian
01:13:34.320 on Italian violence
01:13:35.260 I know you and Fauci
01:13:36.180 already have beef
01:13:36.780 oh yeah
01:13:37.660 I'm terribly sorry
01:13:38.360 to provoke any more Italian
01:13:39.520 on Italian violence
01:13:40.440 I know you and Fauci
01:13:41.360 already had beef
01:13:41.900 but briefly
01:13:42.900 you two touched on
01:13:44.120 the Holy See
01:13:45.040 and you talked about
01:13:45.760 how Pope Francis
01:13:47.360 doesn't exactly agree
01:13:49.260 with you
01:13:49.760 let's say
01:13:50.380 on many issues
01:13:51.360 I've heard him
01:13:52.420 described as
01:13:52.800 the socialist Pope
01:13:53.940 how do you reconcile
01:13:55.100 being a Catholic
01:13:56.420 but having your own
01:13:57.500 head of faith
01:13:58.540 essentially being
01:13:59.160 ideologically opposed
01:14:00.280 to you
01:14:00.700 how does that work
01:14:01.700 listen I'm not
01:14:02.860 terribly worried about it
01:14:04.380 I think the Lord
01:14:05.360 sometimes sends us
01:14:07.080 popes who say
01:14:08.260 interesting things
01:14:09.020 to remind us
01:14:09.660 that the Pope
01:14:10.080 is fallible
01:14:10.680 except when he is
01:14:11.540 infallible
01:14:12.220 and the Pope
01:14:13.380 by the way
01:14:13.960 you know
01:14:14.880 the way he's
01:14:16.300 covered in the media
01:14:16.980 is not always
01:14:17.680 reflective of the
01:14:18.540 things he actually
01:14:19.200 believes
01:14:19.600 I do remember
01:14:20.640 that when he was
01:14:21.080 Cardinal of Buenos Aires
01:14:22.240 Pope Francis
01:14:24.220 then Cardinal Bergoglio
01:14:25.640 said that
01:14:26.860 gay marriage
01:14:28.040 same sex marriage
01:14:29.320 is no mere
01:14:30.280 political lobby
01:14:31.240 but rather a machination
01:14:32.840 of the father of lies
01:14:33.940 that seeks to deceive
01:14:34.840 and confuse
01:14:35.360 the children of God
01:14:36.440 so pretty based
01:14:38.000 as far as I'm concerned
01:14:39.140 and you know
01:14:40.460 you see these things
01:14:41.100 he referred
01:14:42.120 Pope Francis
01:14:44.900 referred to abortion
01:14:46.320 he likened it
01:14:47.380 to hiring an assassin
01:14:48.520 to kill somebody
01:14:49.760 so you know
01:14:50.800 he has said things
01:14:51.820 that raise eyebrows
01:14:52.840 and that raise dubia
01:14:53.980 and that
01:14:54.800 some have said
01:14:55.780 Papa Francesco
01:14:56.660 what are you talking about
01:14:57.720 and then often
01:14:58.740 the Vatican
01:14:59.160 will sort of
01:14:59.580 walk back
01:15:00.140 some of those comments
01:15:01.000 but I don't stay up
01:15:02.180 too late at night
01:15:02.780 because there is
01:15:03.500 the magisterium
01:15:04.220 of the church
01:15:04.660 I fully 100%
01:15:06.220 accept the magisterium
01:15:07.120 of the church
01:15:07.560 and if the Pope
01:15:08.440 has a sort of
01:15:09.160 stray opinion
01:15:09.920 that he's musing about
01:15:10.920 on an airplane
01:15:11.520 that doesn't really
01:15:12.560 affect my life
01:15:13.240 to answer the broader
01:15:14.040 question though
01:15:14.820 that you know
01:15:16.020 and Charlie and I
01:15:16.580 get into this sometimes
01:15:17.640 Evangelical Charlie
01:15:20.460 and I
01:15:20.820 when we're on
01:15:21.500 on the show together
01:15:22.380 that I say
01:15:23.700 look you know
01:15:24.560 you can disagree
01:15:25.580 with this Pope
01:15:26.300 you can disagree
01:15:26.680 with that Pope
01:15:27.540 when they're talking
01:15:28.480 about political matters
01:15:29.740 because when
01:15:31.120 and to Michael's
01:15:32.180 point about infallible
01:15:33.580 when you're not
01:15:34.020 not infallible
01:15:35.520 right
01:15:35.740 fallible
01:15:36.080 when you're not infallible
01:15:36.660 it's this idea
01:15:37.920 that when he's speaking
01:15:38.820 ex cathedra
01:15:39.920 so ex cathedra
01:15:40.800 in the seat of St. Peter
01:15:41.920 on behalf of the entire church
01:15:43.680 that's a very serious
01:15:45.500 written out
01:15:46.840 it's gone over
01:15:48.040 with the magisterium
01:15:50.040 at length
01:15:51.020 before any of those
01:15:52.520 papal edicts
01:15:53.280 or papal polls
01:15:53.820 are issued
01:15:54.600 those encyclicals
01:15:55.440 and so
01:15:56.200 when he's making comments
01:15:57.260 in an interview
01:15:57.960 or something
01:15:58.480 that might just be
01:15:59.320 his personal opinion
01:16:00.120 on something
01:16:00.660 and that might not be
01:16:01.440 that necessarily
01:16:02.120 something that I
01:16:03.100 have to follow
01:16:03.860 as you know
01:16:04.720 as the dirty
01:16:05.360 papists that I am
01:16:06.580 but that being said
01:16:08.180 you know
01:16:08.840 to the broader
01:16:09.820 question of
01:16:10.700 you know
01:16:11.000 I hear this
01:16:11.500 you know
01:16:11.700 do you support
01:16:12.460 how can you support
01:16:13.780 this pope
01:16:14.200 etc
01:16:14.500 and I'll say
01:16:15.280 well look
01:16:15.760 you know
01:16:16.100 as a catholic
01:16:17.280 we've had a lot
01:16:18.360 of popes
01:16:18.880 the same way
01:16:19.580 the United States
01:16:20.200 has had a lot
01:16:20.720 of presidents
01:16:21.220 but you don't
01:16:22.600 you know
01:16:22.980 tear up your passport
01:16:24.160 and tear up your flag
01:16:25.280 because you just have
01:16:25.840 a disagreement
01:16:26.280 with the president
01:16:26.880 the question
01:16:29.340 in the gospel
01:16:30.000 the question
01:16:31.220 raised in the gospel
01:16:31.940 is you know
01:16:32.960 after Christ
01:16:33.460 has the hard sayings
01:16:34.880 and he describes
01:16:35.860 his flesh
01:16:37.240 being true food
01:16:38.120 and his blood
01:16:38.660 being too drink
01:16:39.400 and many people
01:16:40.320 go away
01:16:40.800 because this is
01:16:41.300 a hard saying
01:16:42.080 he says to his apostles
01:16:43.440 will you leave me too
01:16:44.540 and the apostles say
01:16:46.020 to whom shall we go
01:16:47.280 to whom shall we go
01:16:48.680 you know
01:16:49.140 you're the way
01:16:50.440 and the truth
01:16:50.740 and the life
01:16:51.160 and so that's
01:16:52.060 that's my opinion too
01:16:52.880 to whom shall I go
01:16:54.480 gentlemen
01:17:01.220 thank you so much
01:17:02.000 for being here
01:17:02.780 Mr. Mills
01:17:03.580 I just want to say
01:17:04.260 I love your podcast
01:17:05.240 thank you so much
01:17:06.260 I appreciate it
01:17:06.820 you're a man of
01:17:07.380 excellent taste
01:17:08.040 I can tell
01:17:08.600 thank you
01:17:09.520 hopefully we can get
01:17:10.860 a shout out
01:17:11.360 next episode
01:17:12.180 wink wink
01:17:13.040 what's your name
01:17:14.440 Taman Hamlet
01:17:15.580 University of Delaware
01:17:16.580 say the name again
01:17:17.820 I can't
01:17:18.140 Taman Hamlet
01:17:19.280 Taman
01:17:19.760 it's a great name
01:17:21.380 I'll have to remember
01:17:22.600 that for the show tomorrow
01:17:23.320 I just wanted to ask
01:17:24.860 really briefly
01:17:25.440 about the constitution
01:17:26.520 it seems today
01:17:27.820 that being pro-constitution
01:17:29.500 is synonymous
01:17:30.180 with being conservative
01:17:31.600 I mean you ask
01:17:33.040 young people today
01:17:33.760 they think it should be
01:17:34.540 changed
01:17:35.060 rewritten
01:17:35.560 or most people
01:17:36.400 don't even read
01:17:36.940 the constitution
01:17:37.680 well it's easy
01:17:38.740 right
01:17:39.520 it's the
01:17:40.780 you know
01:17:41.940 it's basically like
01:17:43.180 water following
01:17:43.800 the path of least resistance
01:17:44.960 this idea that
01:17:46.200 because to your point
01:17:47.000 about nobody reading
01:17:47.740 books anymore
01:17:48.420 I guess with Ben's point
01:17:49.380 that
01:17:50.140 you know
01:17:51.400 how many people
01:17:52.240 actually know
01:17:53.340 what the constitution
01:17:54.080 says
01:17:54.880 versus whatever
01:17:55.860 the top google result
01:17:56.980 for the constitution
01:17:57.700 is
01:17:58.120 which is always
01:17:58.680 predominantly
01:17:59.420 usually when you
01:18:00.400 look this up
01:18:00.880 it's always some
01:18:01.820 like university
01:18:03.500 professor has
01:18:04.520 written
01:18:04.940 their version
01:18:06.440 of what the
01:18:07.080 they believe
01:18:07.940 the constitution
01:18:08.720 says
01:18:09.080 for example
01:18:09.400 the second amendment
01:18:10.120 right
01:18:10.500 shall not be
01:18:11.440 infringed
01:18:11.920 it's pretty
01:18:12.640 explicit
01:18:13.240 right
01:18:13.680 but you'll find
01:18:14.520 professors
01:18:14.940 and lawyers
01:18:15.680 and entire
01:18:16.420 industry
01:18:16.940 will go in
01:18:17.880 and try to
01:18:18.640 interpret those
01:18:19.600 those words
01:18:20.640 when it's
01:18:21.540 it's right there
01:18:22.280 in the text
01:18:22.860 right
01:18:23.060 shall not be
01:18:23.560 infringed
01:18:24.320 what did they
01:18:24.940 mean by this
01:18:25.840 you know
01:18:26.260 you know
01:18:27.040 and you know
01:18:28.400 just piles
01:18:29.860 and mountains
01:18:30.400 of cope
01:18:30.860 after that
01:18:31.380 but the idea
01:18:32.200 basically is
01:18:33.080 that if they
01:18:34.400 can get away
01:18:34.940 with it
01:18:35.280 they will
01:18:35.740 because again
01:18:36.320 this goes back
01:18:37.540 to I think
01:18:38.260 what we started
01:18:38.720 at the beginning
01:18:39.600 of saying
01:18:40.060 this constitution
01:18:40.960 was written
01:18:41.600 for a society
01:18:42.680 with one
01:18:43.400 moral core
01:18:44.320 and if you
01:18:46.060 take away
01:18:46.720 that moral core
01:18:47.740 and attempt
01:18:48.440 to replace it
01:18:49.380 with a new
01:18:50.180 moral core
01:18:51.160 then they will
01:18:52.200 find ways
01:18:52.840 to apply
01:18:53.460 those words
01:18:54.220 of the very
01:18:54.680 same constitution
01:18:55.500 the very same
01:18:56.080 declaration
01:18:56.620 the words
01:18:57.720 of Jefferson's
01:18:58.760 you know
01:18:59.040 letters
01:18:59.540 his private
01:19:00.060 letters
01:19:00.380 like this
01:19:00.760 where we get
01:19:01.100 separation of
01:19:01.660 church and state
01:19:02.160 obviously it's
01:19:02.800 from private
01:19:03.500 correspondence
01:19:04.140 had nothing
01:19:05.240 to do with
01:19:05.680 his public
01:19:06.060 speeches
01:19:06.500 or edicts
01:19:07.120 etc
01:19:07.340 and certainly
01:19:08.200 not how he
01:19:08.600 governed
01:19:08.920 the state
01:19:09.480 of Virginia
01:19:09.820 but and
01:19:10.900 and the
01:19:11.560 the state
01:19:12.600 constitution
01:19:12.980 that he wrote
01:19:13.300 there
01:19:13.540 but it's
01:19:14.620 basically
01:19:15.020 this idea
01:19:15.600 that if
01:19:16.480 you take
01:19:17.000 away
01:19:17.320 our moral
01:19:18.000 core
01:19:18.380 the moral
01:19:19.080 core
01:19:19.340 that we
01:19:19.660 had at
01:19:20.460 the conception
01:19:22.200 of our
01:19:22.740 country
01:19:23.160 right
01:19:23.880 then you
01:19:25.240 can make
01:19:25.640 the constitution
01:19:26.300 mean whatever
01:19:26.980 you want
01:19:27.480 this is why
01:19:28.180 and Beto O'Rourke
01:19:28.740 recently came out
01:19:29.460 and said he
01:19:29.900 believes in a
01:19:30.560 living constitution
01:19:31.560 that is what
01:19:32.380 they believe
01:19:32.880 it's a Darwinian
01:19:33.900 belief
01:19:34.280 it is a belief
01:19:35.320 in natural
01:19:35.740 selection
01:19:36.180 and it is
01:19:36.760 completely
01:19:37.220 antithetical
01:19:38.100 to how this
01:19:39.000 country was set
01:19:39.720 up
01:19:39.900 you know
01:19:40.080 there's a
01:19:40.380 reason
01:19:40.760 they say
01:19:42.340 there's a
01:19:42.620 reason that
01:19:43.160 the gospels
01:19:43.860 don't
01:19:44.680 it doesn't
01:19:45.600 address
01:19:45.840 atheism
01:19:46.320 right
01:19:46.720 you know
01:19:46.940 Christ never
01:19:47.360 addresses
01:19:47.700 atheism
01:19:48.220 you know
01:19:48.460 why
01:19:48.720 because
01:19:49.580 atheists
01:19:49.900 didn't exist
01:19:50.540 back then
01:19:51.140 right
01:19:51.340 you either
01:19:51.740 worshipped
01:19:52.980 I don't know
01:19:53.680 that they
01:19:53.960 exist now
01:19:54.560 you know
01:19:54.900 yeah right
01:19:55.340 right
01:19:55.540 right
01:19:55.560 true
01:19:56.240 um
01:19:57.080 yeah
01:19:57.820 atheists and
01:19:58.460 foxholes
01:19:58.800 but it's
01:19:59.720 it's this idea
01:20:00.260 that everyone
01:20:00.840 believed in some
01:20:01.700 god back then
01:20:02.520 whether it was
01:20:02.960 Yahweh or
01:20:03.700 whether whether
01:20:04.400 they're worshipping
01:20:04.900 Baal or
01:20:05.620 Moloch
01:20:06.100 there's a lot
01:20:06.440 of those
01:20:06.640 worshippers
01:20:07.040 still today
01:20:07.480 um
01:20:08.360 but
01:20:09.260 by the same
01:20:10.420 token
01:20:10.820 the constitution
01:20:11.860 doesn't
01:20:12.440 necessarily
01:20:13.100 address
01:20:13.680 morality
01:20:14.220 because at
01:20:15.100 the time
01:20:15.400 they didn't
01:20:15.720 have to
01:20:16.140 right
01:20:16.940 and that's
01:20:17.400 the big
01:20:17.640 difference
01:20:17.940 between
01:20:18.200 then and
01:20:18.460 now
01:20:18.640 you see it
01:20:19.900 in the
01:20:20.100 writings of
01:20:20.580 John Adams
01:20:21.140 and of
01:20:22.100 John Jay
01:20:22.680 in particular
01:20:23.240 when people
01:20:24.360 say well
01:20:24.700 what did
01:20:25.060 the constitution
01:20:25.540 mean
01:20:25.840 we know
01:20:26.500 there
01:20:26.720 we have
01:20:27.200 the federalist
01:20:28.260 you know
01:20:28.560 we have
01:20:28.860 a very
01:20:29.400 lengthy
01:20:29.960 explanation
01:20:30.400 of what
01:20:30.840 the constitution
01:20:31.320 means
01:20:31.820 and when
01:20:32.460 you see
01:20:33.000 in especially
01:20:34.160 in the writings
01:20:34.680 of Jay
01:20:35.180 and Adams
01:20:35.920 they declare
01:20:37.320 that the
01:20:37.800 country is a
01:20:38.300 Christian nation
01:20:38.920 and it's
01:20:39.180 founded on
01:20:39.500 Christian
01:20:39.780 principles
01:20:40.160 and it's
01:20:40.400 the only
01:20:40.600 thing
01:20:40.880 that united
01:20:41.540 the people
01:20:42.100 when they
01:20:42.420 when they
01:20:42.820 built the
01:20:43.140 country
01:20:43.360 and that's
01:20:43.640 what it's
01:20:43.880 for
01:20:44.140 so we
01:20:45.100 can know
01:20:45.460 that
01:20:45.620 the left
01:20:45.920 obviously
01:20:46.200 doesn't like
01:20:46.720 that
01:20:46.940 they don't
01:20:47.420 like
01:20:47.580 Christianity
01:20:48.100 they don't
01:20:48.740 like the
01:20:49.020 country
01:20:49.360 they don't
01:20:49.880 like the
01:20:50.140 way the
01:20:50.340 whole thing
01:20:50.660 is set
01:20:50.940 up
01:20:51.100 and they
01:20:51.420 want to
01:20:51.840 attack
01:20:52.080 it
01:20:52.200 and they
01:20:52.340 say it's
01:20:52.580 an evil
01:20:53.200 country
01:20:53.560 from the
01:20:53.880 very beginning
01:20:54.380 and we
01:20:54.640 need to
01:20:54.880 overthrow
01:20:55.220 it
01:20:55.520 and so
01:20:56.340 they
01:20:56.820 obviously
01:20:57.440 have a
01:20:57.660 hostile
01:20:57.960 relationship
01:20:58.580 to the
01:20:58.900 constitution
01:20:59.340 it's
01:21:00.100 helpful
01:21:00.440 to them
01:21:00.820 when they
01:21:01.120 can
01:21:01.440 to just
01:21:02.180 go in
01:21:03.020 and rewrite
01:21:03.540 it
01:21:03.700 as Jack
01:21:04.140 was
01:21:04.300 pointing
01:21:04.560 out
01:21:04.840 it's
01:21:05.160 easier
01:21:05.520 when they
01:21:06.020 can
01:21:06.260 to
01:21:06.640 infiltrate
01:21:07.560 institutions
01:21:08.240 and just
01:21:09.000 wear them
01:21:09.620 like a
01:21:10.440 husk
01:21:11.280 you know
01:21:11.540 sort of
01:21:11.780 a rotted
01:21:12.120 out husk
01:21:12.660 and they
01:21:12.880 animate it
01:21:13.340 like Night
01:21:13.700 of the
01:21:13.900 Living
01:21:14.080 Dead
01:21:14.360 but when
01:21:14.860 they can't
01:21:15.260 do that
01:21:15.560 they'll
01:21:15.760 just
01:21:15.960 assail it
01:21:16.420 that guy
01:21:16.620 in Men
01:21:16.880 in Black
01:21:17.240 you remember
01:21:17.540 the beginning
01:21:18.000 when he was
01:21:18.380 stretching his
01:21:19.100 head back
01:21:19.500 they're skin
01:21:19.900 suits
01:21:20.200 that's right
01:21:20.820 it's a skin
01:21:21.240 suit
01:21:21.540 but when they
01:21:22.380 can't do that
01:21:22.920 they'll attack
01:21:23.620 it and desecrate
01:21:24.500 it and mock
01:21:25.160 it which they
01:21:25.600 do regularly
01:21:26.660 in the New York
01:21:27.200 Times
01:21:27.440 and they're just
01:21:27.800 going to alternate
01:21:28.360 on that
01:21:28.860 but it's an
01:21:29.800 end seeking
01:21:30.580 a justification
01:21:31.240 the end is
01:21:32.300 we hate the
01:21:32.740 country and want
01:21:33.340 to remake it
01:21:33.960 and the
01:21:34.480 justification
01:21:34.920 they'll figure
01:21:35.740 that out
01:21:36.080 along the
01:21:36.400 way
01:21:36.660 which is
01:21:37.140 also why
01:21:37.520 they have
01:21:37.720 to constantly
01:21:38.160 redefine
01:21:38.580 words
01:21:38.900 constantly
01:21:39.540 thank you
01:21:42.200 Taman by
01:21:44.460 the way
01:21:44.780 Taman Hamlin
01:21:45.680 Taman
01:21:46.780 gentlemen
01:21:48.980 thanks for
01:21:49.460 coming here
01:21:50.320 I'm a big
01:21:51.300 history freak
01:21:51.900 I read
01:21:53.260 history
01:21:53.560 I watch
01:21:54.320 documentaries
01:21:55.360 on the
01:21:55.760 revolution
01:21:56.140 and something
01:21:57.840 was worth
01:21:58.660 fighting for
01:21:59.180 back then
01:21:59.660 and it
01:22:00.200 wasn't pretty
01:22:00.760 given the
01:22:03.280 situation now
01:22:04.140 where we're
01:22:05.260 going
01:22:05.580 there's
01:22:06.340 obviously
01:22:06.720 some
01:22:07.160 some
01:22:09.020 threats
01:22:09.860 to our
01:22:10.140 democracy
01:22:10.600 which one
01:22:11.420 would you
01:22:11.780 think is
01:22:12.320 hopefully this
01:22:13.080 question makes
01:22:13.720 sense but
01:22:14.020 which one
01:22:14.300 would you
01:22:14.680 think is
01:22:15.120 the biggest
01:22:15.840 threat
01:22:16.380 unelected
01:22:17.400 officials
01:22:17.900 or officials
01:22:19.560 or government
01:22:20.880 that don't
01:22:21.340 represent us
01:22:22.080 namely
01:22:23.580 rhinos
01:22:24.440 that you
01:22:25.160 think
01:22:25.660 will
01:22:26.480 represent
01:22:27.020 you
01:22:27.300 and then
01:22:27.700 they
01:22:27.980 you follow
01:22:29.260 the money
01:22:29.580 and they
01:22:30.060 they're following
01:22:30.760 the money
01:22:31.100 and they don't
01:22:31.620 represent you
01:22:32.200 it's just
01:22:33.540 cowardice
01:22:34.220 that's the
01:22:34.900 real fear
01:22:35.440 cowardice
01:22:36.060 and ignorance
01:22:36.680 I guess
01:22:37.040 are the
01:22:37.280 two things
01:22:37.780 because
01:22:38.480 you know
01:22:39.880 I think
01:22:40.140 the people
01:22:40.460 are broadly
01:22:40.980 with us
01:22:41.560 on a lot
01:22:41.940 of issues
01:22:42.380 but unfortunately
01:22:43.240 we don't
01:22:43.740 have much
01:22:44.400 of a
01:22:44.600 democracy
01:22:45.040 we were
01:22:45.720 never
01:22:45.920 intended
01:22:46.300 to have
01:22:46.620 a democracy
01:22:47.240 the word
01:22:48.920 democracy
01:22:49.320 does not
01:22:49.720 appear in
01:22:49.980 the constitution
01:22:50.480 doesn't
01:22:50.840 appear in
01:22:51.120 the declaration
01:22:51.620 it appears
01:22:52.400 a handful
01:22:52.780 of times
01:22:53.200 in the
01:22:53.420 federalist
01:22:53.900 only
01:22:54.500 negatively
01:22:55.020 by the
01:22:55.420 way
01:22:55.580 only
01:22:55.760 with
01:22:55.960 disapproval
01:22:56.660 so what
01:22:57.600 we were
01:22:57.860 given
01:22:58.080 was a
01:22:58.460 nation
01:22:58.820 with a
01:22:59.540 mixed
01:22:59.900 sort of
01:23:00.320 regime
01:23:00.660 with a
01:23:01.000 strong
01:23:01.240 executive
01:23:01.700 and a
01:23:03.040 legislature
01:23:03.700 and an
01:23:04.820 aristocratic
01:23:05.400 sort of
01:23:06.160 representation
01:23:06.680 and obviously
01:23:07.180 a very
01:23:07.440 strong
01:23:07.780 democratic
01:23:08.500 element
01:23:08.920 as well
01:23:09.340 but they
01:23:09.740 warned us
01:23:10.220 actually
01:23:10.620 Publius
01:23:11.120 warned us
01:23:11.540 in the
01:23:11.800 federalist
01:23:12.420 that there
01:23:13.720 could come
01:23:14.120 a time
01:23:14.500 when it
01:23:14.840 seemed
01:23:15.120 as though
01:23:15.500 we were
01:23:16.060 expanding
01:23:16.700 the
01:23:16.920 democracy
01:23:17.480 but by
01:23:18.200 apparently
01:23:18.760 expanding
01:23:19.280 the
01:23:19.480 democracy
01:23:20.000 you were
01:23:20.560 really
01:23:20.780 just
01:23:21.000 creating
01:23:21.280 a facade
01:23:21.920 that was
01:23:22.740 masking
01:23:23.940 an
01:23:24.540 oligarchy
01:23:25.160 and so
01:23:25.560 I think
01:23:25.760 that's
01:23:25.960 what we
01:23:26.340 seem
01:23:26.540 to have
01:23:26.780 done
01:23:27.000 through
01:23:27.480 the
01:23:27.660 17th
01:23:28.080 amendment
01:23:28.320 through
01:23:28.520 the
01:23:28.640 direct
01:23:28.840 election
01:23:29.120 of
01:23:29.260 senators
01:23:29.600 through
01:23:30.000 the
01:23:30.140 constant
01:23:30.500 piffle
01:23:30.880 about
01:23:31.120 ever
01:23:31.400 more
01:23:31.640 direct
01:23:32.100 democratic
01:23:32.680 participation
01:23:33.240 I think
01:23:34.040 really
01:23:34.320 what the
01:23:34.680 libs
01:23:34.860 have done
01:23:35.180 is just
01:23:35.540 create
01:23:36.020 more and
01:23:36.380 more of
01:23:36.620 an
01:23:36.760 oligarchy
01:23:37.320 and it's
01:23:37.620 an oligarchy
01:23:38.160 that they
01:23:38.580 themselves
01:23:39.040 are running
01:23:39.920 right
01:23:40.200 the destruction
01:23:40.980 of the
01:23:41.340 electoral
01:23:41.660 college
01:23:42.160 right
01:23:42.680 and their
01:23:42.960 aim
01:23:43.180 they're
01:23:43.420 obviously
01:23:43.760 trying to
01:23:44.240 destroy
01:23:44.500 the
01:23:44.660 electoral
01:23:44.900 college
01:23:45.360 yeah
01:23:45.680 um
01:23:46.140 I
01:23:46.480 for me
01:23:46.980 though
01:23:47.120 I
01:23:47.320 think
01:23:47.760 the
01:23:48.040 there's
01:23:48.640 two
01:23:48.880 great
01:23:49.220 threats
01:23:49.480 here
01:23:49.640 number
01:23:49.960 one
01:23:50.300 the
01:23:51.340 greatest
01:23:51.960 threat
01:23:52.220 to
01:23:52.360 democracy
01:23:52.820 as it
01:23:53.760 stands
01:23:54.080 right
01:23:54.380 now
01:23:54.620 and when
01:23:54.940 I say
01:23:55.100 democracy
01:23:55.500 I mean
01:23:55.860 the
01:23:56.400 representative
01:23:56.880 power of
01:23:57.380 the people
01:23:57.720 to actually
01:23:58.160 have an
01:23:58.440 effect in
01:23:58.780 their
01:23:58.900 government
01:23:59.180 is
01:23:59.560 censorship
01:23:59.960 because
01:24:00.820 2016
01:24:01.540 scared
01:24:02.700 the hell
01:24:03.380 out of
01:24:03.760 the regime
01:24:04.220 when they
01:24:05.120 saw what
01:24:05.680 people could
01:24:06.240 do if
01:24:06.760 they could
01:24:07.060 share
01:24:07.540 true
01:24:08.220 information
01:24:08.760 if they
01:24:09.260 could
01:24:09.420 connect
01:24:09.860 if they
01:24:10.220 could
01:24:10.400 meet
01:24:10.740 in
01:24:10.960 rooms
01:24:11.280 like
01:24:11.480 we're
01:24:11.700 meeting
01:24:12.000 tonight
01:24:12.420 on a
01:24:13.140 college
01:24:13.500 campus
01:24:13.980 and have
01:24:14.560 discussions
01:24:15.120 like this
01:24:15.680 and meet
01:24:16.120 in person
01:24:16.780 the amount
01:24:17.120 of power
01:24:17.600 that that
01:24:17.960 has
01:24:18.220 and discuss
01:24:19.060 things
01:24:19.540 that they
01:24:20.080 don't want
01:24:20.620 being discussed
01:24:21.420 and commit
01:24:22.300 thought crime
01:24:22.960 after thought
01:24:23.500 crime
01:24:23.840 while we're
01:24:24.200 together
01:24:24.540 is terrifying
01:24:25.420 to them
01:24:25.900 is the
01:24:27.000 unelected
01:24:27.420 official
01:24:27.860 are the
01:24:28.480 unelected
01:24:28.820 officials
01:24:29.120 scared
01:24:29.560 scared
01:24:30.080 of that
01:24:30.340 oh yes
01:24:31.100 they're all
01:24:32.540 terrified
01:24:32.900 of it
01:24:33.200 every single
01:24:34.020 one of them
01:24:34.340 is terrified
01:24:34.720 of it
01:24:34.960 that's why
01:24:35.320 people like
01:24:36.920 Nini Yankovic
01:24:37.620 tried to set
01:24:38.160 up this
01:24:38.420 thing called
01:24:39.000 the
01:24:39.440 disinformation
01:24:39.960 governance
01:24:40.560 board
01:24:40.960 which I
01:24:42.040 completely
01:24:42.540 discovered
01:24:43.640 exposed
01:24:44.720 blew up
01:24:45.500 and got
01:24:45.940 her fired
01:24:46.600 in disgrace
01:24:47.460 from the
01:24:48.260 Department
01:24:48.560 of Homeland
01:24:48.960 Security
01:24:49.480 and by
01:24:53.140 the way
01:24:53.600 by the
01:24:54.020 way
01:24:54.420 for you
01:24:56.540 know
01:24:56.680 I assume
01:24:57.220 this is being
01:24:57.560 live stream
01:24:57.900 as a message
01:24:59.380 for Nina
01:24:59.820 or anybody
01:25:00.520 else out
01:25:01.100 there
01:25:01.300 I'm just
01:25:01.620 going to
01:25:01.800 say this
01:25:02.220 should you
01:25:03.040 try to
01:25:03.580 get any
01:25:04.220 one of
01:25:04.620 these
01:25:04.820 set up
01:25:05.200 anywhere
01:25:05.760 else in
01:25:06.300 the
01:25:06.400 government
01:25:06.680 I will
01:25:07.660 expose
01:25:07.980 you
01:25:08.300 and I
01:25:08.720 will get
01:25:09.080 you fired
01:25:09.740 just as
01:25:10.180 quickly
01:25:10.440 I will
01:25:11.000 find
01:25:11.340 you
01:25:11.600 I will
01:25:12.900 expose
01:25:13.340 you
01:25:13.640 thank you
01:25:17.140 for being
01:25:17.500 here
01:25:17.800 so you
01:25:18.500 spoke
01:25:18.740 earlier
01:25:19.140 about
01:25:19.360 moral
01:25:19.600 clarity
01:25:19.960 and how
01:25:20.280 people
01:25:20.560 on the
01:25:20.780 right
01:25:20.960 and people
01:25:21.280 on the
01:25:21.480 left
01:25:21.640 have
01:25:21.840 different
01:25:22.240 moral
01:25:22.520 clarities
01:25:23.080 how would
01:25:24.000 you convince
01:25:24.400 someone on
01:25:24.780 the left
01:25:25.180 with a
01:25:26.960 different
01:25:27.160 moral clarity
01:25:27.660 that yours
01:25:28.140 is correct
01:25:28.700 and if
01:25:29.600 you can't
01:25:30.440 how would
01:25:30.880 you
01:25:31.040 agree to
01:25:31.900 disagree
01:25:32.280 if you
01:25:33.080 can do
01:25:33.360 that
01:25:33.620 the moral
01:25:34.820 order is
01:25:35.420 not just
01:25:36.020 some
01:25:36.260 preference
01:25:36.680 of mine
01:25:37.140 I like
01:25:37.880 vanilla
01:25:38.180 and you
01:25:38.440 like
01:25:38.640 chocolate
01:25:39.040 the moral
01:25:39.740 order is
01:25:40.140 an objective
01:25:40.640 thing
01:25:41.100 and the
01:25:41.640 moral order
01:25:42.200 can be
01:25:42.800 perceived
01:25:43.360 and understood
01:25:44.520 through our
01:25:46.860 reason
01:25:47.460 and our
01:25:47.800 moral
01:25:48.080 conscience
01:25:48.600 and if
01:25:49.560 you say
01:25:50.000 that to
01:25:50.540 many
01:25:50.960 libs
01:25:51.580 they will
01:25:52.200 laugh in
01:25:52.660 your face
01:25:53.180 and they
01:25:53.860 probably won't
01:25:55.040 even admit
01:25:55.580 that there's
01:25:55.960 such a thing
01:25:56.460 they almost
01:25:57.820 certainly won't
01:25:58.240 admit there's
01:25:58.580 such a thing
01:25:58.880 as God
01:25:59.300 and they
01:25:59.780 probably won't
01:26:00.260 admit that
01:26:00.580 there's such
01:26:00.920 a thing
01:26:01.160 as objective
01:26:01.620 truth
01:26:02.000 and so
01:26:02.500 you're
01:26:02.660 going to
01:26:02.780 have to
01:26:03.000 get them
01:26:03.300 there
01:26:03.540 first
01:26:04.020 and it's
01:26:04.540 very easy
01:26:05.060 to convince
01:26:05.520 someone that
01:26:05.940 there is
01:26:06.320 objective
01:26:06.980 truth
01:26:07.340 which is
01:26:07.820 when they
01:26:08.680 say there's
01:26:09.040 no such
01:26:09.340 thing as
01:26:09.680 objective
01:26:10.140 truth
01:26:10.440 you will
01:26:10.960 ask them
01:26:11.360 well is
01:26:11.680 that
01:26:11.860 statement
01:26:12.180 objectively
01:26:12.680 true
01:26:13.080 and assuming
01:26:14.380 that they
01:26:15.000 stop sputtering
01:26:16.340 around after
01:26:16.920 a while
01:26:17.240 they'll have
01:26:17.840 to admit
01:26:18.200 that they
01:26:18.740 do
01:26:19.340 accede
01:26:20.600 to some
01:26:20.900 sort of
01:26:21.340 objective
01:26:22.100 truth
01:26:22.420 and so
01:26:22.920 then it
01:26:23.960 is helpful
01:26:24.660 to get
01:26:25.020 them to
01:26:25.280 believe in
01:26:25.640 God
01:26:26.000 which is
01:26:27.120 God's
01:26:27.760 existence
01:26:28.100 is self
01:26:28.800 evident
01:26:29.040 and can
01:26:29.840 be known
01:26:30.340 by the
01:26:31.200 light of
01:26:31.480 reason
01:26:31.760 from the
01:26:32.140 created
01:26:32.400 world
01:26:32.840 there are
01:26:34.440 many good
01:26:34.760 arguments
01:26:35.040 for the
01:26:35.360 existence
01:26:35.600 of God
01:26:35.980 there are
01:26:36.260 no good
01:26:36.600 arguments
01:26:37.000 against
01:26:37.320 God
01:26:37.660 but you
01:26:38.420 might have
01:26:38.720 to reason
01:26:39.560 them through
01:26:39.860 a little
01:26:40.080 bit
01:26:40.300 there as
01:26:41.080 well
01:26:41.280 I think
01:26:41.780 only once
01:26:42.560 you do
01:26:42.920 that
01:26:43.280 can you
01:26:44.480 point people
01:26:45.740 to the
01:26:46.500 realities
01:26:47.340 of morals
01:26:48.620 that they
01:26:49.140 already
01:26:49.640 perceive
01:26:50.160 it's an
01:26:50.460 amazing
01:26:50.880 thing
01:26:51.240 how people
01:26:51.880 know
01:26:52.260 things to
01:26:52.740 be true
01:26:53.120 and they
01:26:53.600 just won't
01:26:54.140 let themselves
01:26:54.680 admit it
01:26:55.240 we know
01:26:55.840 it's wrong
01:26:56.340 to commit
01:26:56.960 murder
01:26:57.300 we know
01:26:57.860 it's wrong
01:26:58.420 to eat
01:26:59.280 human beings
01:26:59.840 we know
01:27:00.080 cannibalism
01:27:00.600 is wrong
01:27:00.920 why is it
01:27:01.400 wrong
01:27:01.640 it just
01:27:02.040 is
01:27:02.400 we have
01:27:02.680 a kind
01:27:02.900 of wisdom
01:27:03.560 of
01:27:03.740 he was
01:27:04.140 watching
01:27:04.440 Jeffrey
01:27:04.740 Dahmer
01:27:05.060 all last
01:27:05.440 week
01:27:05.660 he's been
01:27:06.660 sending me
01:27:07.140 these texts
01:27:08.060 I'm telling you
01:27:08.440 these are
01:27:09.440 things
01:27:09.840 Leon Kass
01:27:10.820 the bioethicist
01:27:11.920 used a great
01:27:12.420 phrase here
01:27:12.860 the wisdom
01:27:13.660 of repugnance
01:27:14.480 I guess I could
01:27:15.960 come up with
01:27:16.320 some argument
01:27:16.820 as to why
01:27:17.300 cannibalism
01:27:17.860 is wrong
01:27:18.280 but I don't
01:27:18.980 really need to
01:27:19.620 we just kind
01:27:20.240 of know
01:27:20.680 that it is
01:27:21.400 and this is
01:27:21.740 true on so
01:27:22.140 many moral
01:27:22.640 issues
01:27:22.980 because we
01:27:23.820 are endowed
01:27:24.320 by our creator
01:27:24.940 with a moral
01:27:25.380 conscience
01:27:25.760 and with
01:27:26.300 reason
01:27:26.600 and so
01:27:26.980 I think
01:27:27.820 get people
01:27:28.620 first
01:27:29.060 you just
01:27:29.520 say
01:27:29.720 hey buddy
01:27:30.360 we're not
01:27:31.040 on a debate
01:27:31.540 stage
01:27:31.980 okay
01:27:32.220 it's just
01:27:32.800 you and me
01:27:33.220 pal
01:27:33.520 just you and
01:27:34.260 me here
01:27:34.560 over stogies
01:27:35.300 you're going
01:27:36.280 to admit
01:27:36.580 to me
01:27:38.440 having sex
01:27:40.700 with 500
01:27:41.300 women at a
01:27:41.940 time
01:27:42.260 and then
01:27:42.660 killing a bunch
01:27:43.620 of orphan
01:27:44.180 children
01:27:44.660 and then
01:27:45.240 I don't
01:27:46.100 know
01:27:46.340 going out
01:27:46.800 and doing
01:27:47.000 a bunch
01:27:47.260 of heroin
01:27:47.680 that's probably
01:27:48.900 not good
01:27:49.540 right
01:27:49.900 and they'd say
01:27:50.700 well I don't
01:27:51.660 want to admit
01:27:52.160 that there's
01:27:52.460 a moral
01:27:52.680 reality
01:27:53.080 but I guess
01:27:53.700 if it's just
01:27:54.080 us
01:27:54.240 okay I'll
01:27:55.060 admit that
01:27:55.420 that's true
01:27:55.860 and once
01:27:56.700 we all agree
01:27:57.980 on that
01:27:58.340 in the ancient
01:27:58.700 world
01:27:59.140 that was
01:28:00.520 accepted
01:28:00.920 morality
01:28:01.440 for many
01:28:02.480 throughout the
01:28:03.280 Bronze Age
01:28:03.740 throughout the
01:28:04.020 Iron Age
01:28:04.960 and it's only
01:28:06.000 with the coming
01:28:06.860 of God
01:28:07.660 and first
01:28:08.240 through Abraham
01:28:09.360 right
01:28:09.880 that we started
01:28:11.000 to have this
01:28:11.580 new moral order
01:28:12.640 that came through
01:28:13.520 because there
01:28:14.180 there were
01:28:14.720 societies that
01:28:15.720 practiced child
01:28:16.440 sacrifice
01:28:16.980 that happened
01:28:18.160 in the Americas
01:28:18.980 all the way up
01:28:19.680 through the time
01:28:20.740 of Columbus
01:28:21.220 by the way
01:28:21.960 go look at the
01:28:22.940 Cahokia Mounds
01:28:23.700 out in Illinois
01:28:24.440 right on the banks
01:28:25.080 of Mississippi
01:28:25.540 where the teenagers
01:28:26.260 were murdered
01:28:26.900 because they wanted
01:28:27.580 good crops
01:28:28.280 you saw child
01:28:30.520 sacrifice to Moloch
01:28:31.660 for years
01:28:32.800 these were real
01:28:34.100 things that actually
01:28:34.920 happened in our
01:28:35.780 world and we find
01:28:36.700 in Peru
01:28:37.420 every day
01:28:38.700 it feels like
01:28:39.240 there's a new
01:28:39.640 article about
01:28:40.540 finding some
01:28:41.060 mass grave
01:28:41.520 of children
01:28:42.000 and so
01:28:42.700 there's this
01:28:43.660 idea
01:28:43.900 by the way
01:28:44.240 this is the
01:28:44.660 reason that
01:28:45.380 when the
01:28:46.340 Aztecs were
01:28:46.880 overthrown
01:28:47.280 by the
01:28:47.620 Spanish
01:28:47.940 that many
01:28:48.880 of the
01:28:49.200 other tribes
01:28:50.080 joined with
01:28:51.480 Cortes
01:28:52.280 to go after
01:28:53.040 the Aztecs
01:28:53.620 because they
01:28:54.020 didn't want
01:28:54.340 to have to
01:28:54.680 keep sending
01:28:55.180 their children
01:28:55.720 to be
01:28:56.600 ritualistically
01:28:58.020 slaughtered
01:28:59.000 in these
01:28:59.420 arcane
01:29:00.040 pagan
01:29:00.320 practices
01:29:00.820 made MS-13
01:29:01.680 look like
01:29:02.100 Boy Scouts
01:29:02.660 oh easily
01:29:03.160 easily
01:29:03.600 and so
01:29:04.360 this idea
01:29:04.920 and I've
01:29:05.500 just
01:29:05.840 you know
01:29:07.300 just came
01:29:07.680 back actually
01:29:08.240 from Israel
01:29:08.900 about one
01:29:09.460 week ago
01:29:09.860 went to the
01:29:10.200 Holy Land
01:29:10.580 with my
01:29:10.840 family
01:29:11.220 and
01:29:12.180 incredible
01:29:13.780 just absolutely
01:29:14.660 incredible
01:29:15.120 and you know
01:29:16.420 for those
01:29:17.280 you know
01:29:17.700 I agree with
01:29:18.460 everything you
01:29:18.820 said about
01:29:19.280 the idea
01:29:19.900 of a
01:29:20.120 universal
01:29:20.500 morality
01:29:20.980 and this
01:29:22.160 idea of
01:29:22.560 trying to
01:29:22.960 get them
01:29:23.280 to at least
01:29:23.720 admit that
01:29:24.420 by the way
01:29:25.020 this is the
01:29:25.520 reason that
01:29:26.380 simulation
01:29:27.020 theory is
01:29:27.580 such a
01:29:27.840 cope
01:29:28.040 by the way
01:29:28.540 so simulation
01:29:29.260 theory is a
01:29:29.920 cope by the
01:29:30.920 secularists
01:29:31.760 to try
01:29:32.500 to try
01:29:33.300 to have
01:29:33.620 because they
01:29:34.060 have to
01:29:34.300 admit that
01:29:34.820 things just
01:29:35.260 work a little
01:29:35.760 bit too
01:29:36.220 well for it
01:29:36.820 to have all
01:29:37.160 been random
01:29:37.700 and so
01:29:38.840 they couldn't
01:29:39.820 you know
01:29:40.060 this whole
01:29:40.540 life was seeded
01:29:41.700 by aliens
01:29:42.240 theory didn't
01:29:42.840 quite go
01:29:43.220 anywhere because
01:29:43.720 they don't
01:29:43.900 have any
01:29:44.180 aliens to
01:29:44.700 point to
01:29:45.080 so now
01:29:45.720 the new
01:29:46.060 one is
01:29:46.340 simulation
01:29:46.780 theory and
01:29:47.340 say well
01:29:47.620 what if
01:29:47.860 some creator
01:29:48.700 came and
01:29:50.080 constructed
01:29:50.840 this reality
01:29:51.700 and we're
01:29:52.140 just programs
01:29:53.120 and sprites
01:29:53.780 living within
01:29:54.440 the reality
01:29:55.020 and there's
01:29:55.480 some greater
01:29:56.260 plan like a
01:29:57.220 program for
01:29:57.960 example and I
01:29:58.680 said well
01:29:59.020 yeah that
01:29:59.460 St. Paul's been
01:30:00.160 saying that for
01:30:00.660 2000 years
01:30:01.480 so but you
01:30:02.660 know and you
01:30:02.960 can walk
01:30:03.300 through all
01:30:03.580 that but
01:30:03.980 for me you
01:30:05.020 know I'm
01:30:05.420 probably just
01:30:06.020 going to go
01:30:06.460 up to them
01:30:07.000 and you know
01:30:07.700 they start
01:30:08.020 throwing all
01:30:08.440 that at me
01:30:08.760 and I just
01:30:09.120 go
01:30:09.300 and I'll just
01:30:14.400 do the whole
01:30:14.720 thing you know
01:30:15.280 because at
01:30:16.680 that point
01:30:17.180 it's it you're
01:30:18.180 not you're not
01:30:18.700 even having a
01:30:19.140 conversation
01:30:19.580 yeah that's
01:30:20.560 true they'll
01:30:21.040 understand the
01:30:21.640 Latin about as
01:30:22.280 well as they'll
01:30:22.740 understand the
01:30:23.240 English but it's
01:30:23.940 worth a valiant
01:30:24.540 effort I think it's
01:30:25.180 really worth a good
01:30:25.860 try and and look
01:30:27.260 I mean on that
01:30:28.420 point I was I was
01:30:29.400 never really a lib but
01:30:30.200 I was an atheist for
01:30:31.020 10 years I know
01:30:32.000 plenty of people who
01:30:33.180 at the religious
01:30:34.520 level
01:30:34.900 hey we all have
01:30:35.600 regrets
01:30:35.940 that's right yeah no I
01:30:37.080 mean I know people who've
01:30:37.760 converted religiously I
01:30:38.920 know people who have
01:30:39.500 changed their mind
01:30:40.140 politically some in a
01:30:41.380 dramatic way and so
01:30:42.340 these little conversations
01:30:43.600 really do matter it's
01:30:44.580 why it's why I'll speak
01:30:46.160 for myself I assume it's
01:30:46.980 true of you too Jack
01:30:47.740 it's why we come out to
01:30:49.220 the college campuses
01:30:50.080 because every so often
01:30:51.420 you get someone who
01:30:52.140 comes up to you says you
01:30:52.840 know this one random
01:30:54.160 thing you said that you
01:30:54.900 probably forgot that
01:30:55.880 actually got me thinking
01:30:56.660 and then I read this guy
01:30:57.440 and then I looked this up
01:30:58.180 and then it really
01:30:58.640 kind of changed my way
01:30:59.600 of viewing things and
01:31:00.600 so I wouldn't give up as
01:31:02.160 we said earlier getting
01:31:03.540 blackpilled is just a
01:31:04.620 total it's very stupid
01:31:06.300 it's very sinful you
01:31:07.180 shouldn't do it have
01:31:08.040 hope we're called to
01:31:08.780 have hope it's a
01:31:09.260 theological fact we're
01:31:10.520 going to win anyway in
01:31:11.400 the end and we're going
01:31:12.020 to have a good time
01:31:12.480 fighting in the meantime
01:31:13.320 thank you guys we are
01:31:14.800 winning and we're going
01:31:15.940 to win and ladies and
01:31:18.340 gentlemen thank you for
01:31:19.400 being out here tonight
01:31:20.380 thank you for taking part
01:31:23.240 of this for Turning
01:31:23.920 Point USA make sure to go
01:31:25.060 to tpusa.com trying to
01:31:27.660 think of what you know
01:31:28.700 what are the advertisements
01:31:29.580 supposed to be America
01:31:31.260 Fest is coming up Phoenix
01:31:33.200 Arizona so it's going to
01:31:34.520 be the week before
01:31:35.420 Christmas I believe it's
01:31:37.280 December 17th it kicks
01:31:38.380 off Phoenix Arizona
01:31:39.460 myself Candace Charlie
01:31:41.160 Kirk will be headlining
01:31:42.420 the entire thing Tucker
01:31:43.420 Carlson Steve Bannon is
01:31:45.280 going to be speaking
01:31:46.060 fantastic event I don't
01:31:47.640 know if it's announced
01:31:48.240 yet but I also will be
01:31:50.080 are you on this I don't
01:31:50.900 know if we've announced
01:31:51.340 it yet I don't know if
01:31:52.260 we've announced it
01:31:52.600 it's an exclusive announcement
01:31:53.180 Michael will be there
01:31:54.080 that was that was a
01:31:56.940 condition of him coming
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01:32:09.740 thanks