Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 310： The Live Free Tour - Poso and Michael Knowles at University of Delaware

00:00:00.000 Welcome to Turning Point USA's proudly hosted 2022 event, the Live Free Tour.

00:00:16.940 Joining us on stage tonight, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:22.120 Let's get this started.

00:00:24.320 Now welcoming to the stage, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:30.000 What's up?

00:00:40.860 Good evening, University of Delaware.

00:00:44.420 It's great to be here.

00:00:46.120 You guys may not realize this, but I'm actually from the Philadelphia area myself, so Delaware is very well known to me, very well known to me.

00:00:55.480 So I take it that this is where we have to blame for Joe Biden.

00:00:59.540 Is that how that and and Jill Biden is excuse me, excuse me, Dr. Jill Biden.

00:01:08.880 Let's get it right.

00:01:09.920 Let's get it right.

00:01:10.580 Now, you guys may have seen the Internet at all today.

00:01:13.860 But Candace Owens and her friend Kanye West decided to go and break the Internet today because they ended up showing up in Paris wearing a couple of shirts that the media wasn't very a big fan of.

00:01:29.380 But we do have a video from Candace exclusively for all of you here explaining the entire situation.

00:01:38.340 So without further ado, let's hear it from Candace.

00:01:41.340 What's up, Delaware?

00:01:49.740 Candace Owens here.

00:01:50.760 And I'm just here to say that I am so, so, so, so, so sorry that I missed tonight.

00:01:55.360 You have no idea how badly I wanted to go and how much I wanted to jump back on the college campuses with Charlie.

00:02:01.620 Obviously, you've probably figured out by now that the reason that I missed tonight was because I'm in Paris right now.

00:02:08.020 My friend Kanye invited me to partake in what I perceived to be a really, really, really important cultural moment.

00:02:14.420 And if I did not think that it was such an important inroad for us to establish as conservatives, there would have been nothing stopping me from being with you guys tonight.

00:02:23.820 So, again, I want to say sorry.

00:02:25.480 I especially want to say sorry to all the Turning Point USA students who worked so hard to organize this.

00:02:30.600 And I promise, promise, promise, I'm always going to promise that I will make it up to you guys.

00:02:34.980 So whether I have to look to you next semester or next fall, I'm coming back to Delaware to do an event with you.

00:02:40.180 So thank you guys so much for your understanding.

00:02:43.520 And hopefully I will see you soon, probably at AmFest.

00:02:46.940 Bye, guys.

00:02:48.640 And we are going to hold we are going to hold Candace to her word on that, by the way.

00:02:53.060 Don't worry.

00:02:53.720 Don't worry.

00:02:54.020 I've got her digits.

00:02:54.760 I've got all of it.

00:02:55.480 But when I got the call yesterday and I'm doing human events and we're doing War Room with Steve Bannon and we're doing all this other stuff.

00:03:03.600 And Charlie says, Jack, I need you to go to University of Delaware.

00:03:05.500 I said, all right, I'll go.

00:03:07.220 But I want to bring another special guest.

00:03:09.200 And he said, well, who do you want to bring?

00:03:10.340 Who do you want to bring?

00:03:11.000 And I said, well, who do we have available?

00:03:15.020 And he said, well, we got this travel arranged already from Nashville.

00:03:20.160 And he said, who do you know in Nashville?

00:03:21.620 And I was like, I don't know.

00:03:23.160 We know some like Jason Allendeen.

00:03:25.800 We know some like Brittany Allendeen.

00:03:27.360 You know, he said, yeah, but they're not, you know, they're a little bit out of our price range.

00:03:32.260 At least my price range.

00:03:33.360 Maybe not Charlie's.

00:03:34.460 And I said, well, hold on a second.

00:03:37.040 I have an idea about who we could bring out.

00:03:39.220 So a man who is just as much of a medical doctor as Jill Biden.

00:03:45.820 Ladies and gentlemen, a special guest tonight from Daily Wire, Mr. Michael Knowles.

00:03:55.700 Michael Knowles.

00:03:57.560 I know, right?

00:04:01.820 Now joining us on stage, Michael Knowles.

00:04:05.260 Because we had, we had the plane ticket already.

00:04:14.160 So we just transferred the ticket.

00:04:16.060 Well, and I can pass for Candace is the other thing.

00:04:19.100 That's true.

00:04:19.580 That's true.

00:04:19.940 I was very excited to come tonight.

00:04:21.580 I mistake the two of you all the time.

00:04:22.840 I think that my presence here tonight makes me officially the new face of Blexit.

00:04:31.340 Because I figure, I figure if Larry Elder can be the black face of white supremacy, then I, you know, the Italians are racially very ambiguous.

00:04:39.600 Anyway, I think that I can be the white face of Blexit.

00:04:43.880 Is that fair?

00:04:44.260 Amazing.

00:04:45.080 Congratulations on your latest, the first transracial speaker I believe that we've had here at a Turning Point event.

00:04:54.680 Charlie is immediately regretting the decision to ask me to come.

00:04:59.880 But we're very excited to have everyone here.

00:05:02.200 And I don't know, I did already reveal, though, that is it true?

00:05:06.140 And actually, let me ask you, so we mentioned before that this is the alma mater of the Biden family.

00:05:12.300 It's true.

00:05:12.780 It's true.

00:05:13.660 Is it true, though, that Biden's, and President Biden's, his records here are still sealed?

00:05:19.620 Is that accurate?

00:05:20.820 There's still, what's going on with that?

00:05:22.620 You know, we're supposed to be a Q&A, but I'm asking you guys the Q's.

00:05:25.640 What's that?

00:05:26.060 What did you say?

00:05:27.580 Because he failed.

00:05:28.360 No, I thought, I was reliably informed.

00:05:30.940 It's because he got too many A's, right?

00:05:32.700 Yeah, he was too, is that it?

00:05:34.660 No.

00:05:35.660 Because he plagiarized.

00:05:36.940 I like that one.

00:05:37.860 That one's probably true, to be honest, because he probably plagiarized.

00:05:42.780 And we're not saying that because we were just making specious allegations.

00:05:48.360 We're saying that because it's literally what is done for his entire career.

00:05:52.260 He plagiarized his presidential speeches when he was running for president in the 80s.

00:05:55.780 He plagiarized so many speeches when he was in the Senate.

00:05:58.600 And now we're looking at this presidential administration that he tries to plagiarize from the television show,

00:06:03.880 the West Wing, but it really ends up being more like a really, really bad episode of Veep.

00:06:09.880 It is.

00:06:10.680 And, you know, the whole topic of the tour and the speech did get me thinking about how to fight back against this insane administration.

00:06:20.440 Because what's the topic?

00:06:21.340 The topic is live free.

00:06:22.800 And I think that's why I love that topic.

00:06:25.140 And I love that topic in particular because nobody seems to know what it means.

00:06:30.980 Everybody thinks that he's for freedom.

00:06:33.400 So the left thinks that it's for freedom.

00:06:35.420 You may have noticed usually it speaks about that freedom with regard to sort of weird sex stuff.

00:06:42.760 You know, this idea that you can be with whoever you want.

00:06:45.700 You should be able to have the freedom to kill your children through abortion,

00:06:49.440 that you ought to have the freedom to do all sorts of sort of social issue freedoms.

00:06:54.160 And then the conservatives will come out and they'll say, we need the freedom to, I don't know, cut taxes, regulation.

00:07:01.300 Well, I'm looking out and the lights are actually pretty high right now.

00:07:05.880 But is there is there a chance that we could get the lights on in the house?

00:07:08.560 Because I want to I want to fact check something.

00:07:10.180 Is there a chance we could do that?

00:07:11.060 I don't know if that can happen quickly or not.

00:07:13.220 But from what?

00:07:13.860 All right.

00:07:14.140 Yeah, we got them on.

00:07:14.940 All right.

00:07:15.200 Now, I just want to do a quick look around.

00:07:16.640 Everyone look to your left.

00:07:18.540 Look to your right.

00:07:19.320 I don't see a single mask in this entire room.

00:07:24.980 That is freedom.

00:07:26.280 That is freedom.

00:07:35.320 There is one all the way at the back, all the way at the back, all the way at the back.

00:07:40.280 That's right.

00:07:40.760 That's your freedom.

00:07:41.760 Well, you think about it.

00:07:42.380 The left says that freedom is putting on 10 masks and getting, you know, 15,000 boosters, which are so.

00:07:48.080 So the Ayatollah says that as well, that putting on masks is freedom.

00:07:51.700 Yeah, that's right.

00:07:53.240 So, you know, you get you get these different definitions of freedom.

00:07:57.140 And even Joe, I bet Joe Biden would tell you if he came back to his alma mater, I bet he would tell you I'm for freedom.

00:08:02.820 And I think there are all these sorts of debates.

00:08:04.980 You even see it a little bit on the right.

00:08:06.900 And it's a it's a big misunderstanding because true freedom is not just the ability to do whatever you want, whenever you want to do it.

00:08:16.540 But if true, true freedom were the ability to do whatever you want, whenever you want to do it, you know, the freest person in the world would be who would be a heroin addict.

00:08:24.500 Oh, yeah.

00:08:24.960 Right.

00:08:25.240 A sort of derelict bum shooting up heroin on the street.

00:08:29.340 We're only about 30 minutes away from Kensington Avenue.

00:08:32.380 Right.

00:08:32.860 You guys want to go up there.

00:08:33.940 So my brother, we my brother was living in in Fishtown in Philadelphia, only about two, three blocks away from Kensington and Allegheny.

00:08:44.940 And if you guys don't know Kensington Avenue in Philadelphia, that has become I used to call it a local eyesore, but it's gotten to the point where it's it's regional, national.

00:08:54.800 I've even seen people in other countries playing these videos.

00:08:57.860 So for for folks who aren't familiar with the area, Kensington is and it's right under the the Market Frankfurt L.

00:09:04.700 So the elevated train there.

00:09:06.600 And this is that area underneath where you see these shuffling fentanyl zombies.

00:09:12.280 And that's what they are.

00:09:13.300 They're fentanyl zombies just marching around.

00:09:17.580 And and now you may not know this.

00:09:19.200 Do you know?

00:09:19.600 Have you heard the nickname of this area that it's the Kensington Beach?

00:09:23.420 Do you know about does anyone know Kensington Beach?

00:09:25.360 All right.

00:09:25.920 The reason they call it Kensington Beach in Philly is because there's so many people.

00:09:32.480 That have overdosed or just completely knocked out and passed out from fentanyl there that they're lying down on the pavement as if they're all sunning themselves on the beach.

00:09:42.280 So the joke is that it's called the Kensington.

00:09:45.120 You go to Instagram, there's Kensington Beach lifeguard.

00:09:47.500 You can buy T-shirts.

00:09:48.580 There's Kensington, you know, the zombies of Kensington Beach.

00:09:52.460 And you can find these videos.

00:09:54.120 And it's horrific.

00:09:55.380 We're the laughingstock of the entire Western world.

00:09:59.520 And in fact, there's parts of the third world that are laughing at us when they look at this.

00:10:04.060 They say this is the first world.

00:10:05.240 So when you hear Biden go up there on the world stage and start telling these other countries using these moral epithets,

00:10:12.140 saying this is not the way we conduct ourselves.

00:10:14.260 This is the rules based order.

00:10:15.960 You cannot, you know, conduct whatever action it is that he's talking about when he goes to the Ayatollahs, when he goes to Putin, when he goes to Xi, etc.

00:10:22.560 Well, look at how we conduct ourselves.

00:10:24.480 And there was a book I read a long time ago that said something about the splinter in your eye versus the log in another eye.

00:10:31.840 You know, I don't I forget it.

00:10:32.700 Some famous guy wrote it.

00:10:33.700 And from that same book, it makes a very important point about freedom, which is spoiler alert.

00:10:40.780 Spoiler alert.

00:10:41.040 No, you know, it makes for those who haven't read it yet.

00:10:43.160 It's a good ending.

00:10:43.760 It makes a very important point about freedom because the Christian view of freedom is that the man who sins is a slave to sin.

00:10:50.000 Yes.

00:10:50.220 Right.

00:10:50.380 And so the freedom that the left is peddling is freedom to shoot up heroin, freedom to do fentanyl, freedom to look at porn, freedom to do all sorts of things that are destructive.

00:11:00.220 But as you see when you see the guys on the beach, the druggie beach down there.

00:11:05.800 Kensington Beach.

00:11:06.180 Kensington Beach.

00:11:07.080 They're not.

00:11:07.940 They're obviously not free.

00:11:09.200 They're the biggest slaves of all because they're slaves to their basest passions and their lowest appetite.

00:11:14.900 They're slaves to sin.

00:11:16.400 And sin is not freedom.

00:11:18.420 Vice is not a freedom.

00:11:20.380 Having the ability to live a good life, live a healthy life, that's true freedom.

00:11:25.420 And we as a society, you know, when I look at people like that, and this is where I might get into it with my more libertarian-minded friends, is to say, no, I don't believe they have the freedom to choose that.

00:11:35.920 Because when you have an addiction like that, that's become a chemical addiction.

00:11:40.000 You don't have freedom at all.

00:11:40.940 You don't even have a brain at that point.

00:11:42.320 And if there's anyone in this room, and I don't know if Hunter Biden's nearby, but come on, we're at University of Delaware.

00:11:49.120 You know the Biden jerks are going to be flying tonight.

00:11:52.260 But in all seriousness, and I would say this to anyone suffering from the disease of addiction, that we as a society should do better by those people, and we should do right by those people.

00:12:05.540 And it's because of corrupt politicians that have overlooked this for years and years, whether it's Philadelphia, whether it's California, Detroit, take your pick.

00:12:14.600 They are the ones to blame for letting those people die in the street, and we owe them better.

00:12:20.080 We owe them better.

00:12:21.340 Absolutely.

00:12:22.340 Absolutely.

00:12:24.180 You know, you talked about this sort of higher political freedom.

00:12:27.840 So if we don't want the freedom, the freedom, quote unquote, that the left is offering, there is a higher freedom.

00:12:32.900 Edmund Burke, one of the great conservative philosophers, he talked about how there used to be, in the good old days, a generous loyalty of rank and sex, a proud submission, a dignified obedience that finds, even in servitude itself, the spirit of an exalted freedom.

00:12:52.240 And it's one of the most beautiful passages in that book, and it made me think, you know, all in the name of freedom, what have we given ourselves?

00:12:59.800 This culture that is full of drugs, it's full of porn, it's full of disorder, it's full of family breakdown, the life expectancy in this country is decreasing now year over year for several years in a row for the first time ever.

00:13:12.260 Obviously, things are not working out very well.

00:13:15.300 Don't drive past that point, by the way.

00:13:16.620 Don't bury the lead.

00:13:17.240 For the first time ever in United States history, save wars, right, our life expectancy is now going down year on year.

00:13:29.440 Every single year prior to this, prior to this period, it's gone up.

00:13:33.580 Our life expectancy always gets longer.

00:13:35.680 This has always been one of the shining examples of the success of the U.S. system.

00:13:40.340 Now, all of a sudden, it's going down.

00:13:42.520 And I'll tell you why it's going down.

00:13:43.820 It's going down because of drugs.

00:13:45.140 It's going down because of suicide, these suicides, these deaths of despair in the Midwest, in the cities.

00:13:53.580 It's going down because of the crazy homicides.

00:13:56.720 I'm not even going to ask you guys to raise your hands.

00:13:59.120 But is there anyone in this room right now who actually thinks it's safe to walk the streets of Philadelphia at night?

00:14:04.920 I hope not.

00:14:06.020 I really hope not.

00:14:09.160 There you go.

00:14:10.460 There you go.

00:14:10.780 Yeah.

00:14:11.340 Wilmington, precisely.

00:14:12.340 This idea that, and look, we used to go down to Wilmington all the time.

00:14:16.340 I saw Green Day in Wilmington at Big Kahunaville, right?

00:14:21.160 Such a millennial.

00:14:22.600 Let's go to see Green Day.

00:14:24.140 But I also saw Bob Dylan there.

00:14:26.600 But I also saw Bob Dylan there, Mr. Tambourine Man himself.

00:14:31.620 And so, you know, coming down to Wilmington just to see concerts or even going up, you know, down South Street, Philadelphia, you know, these were rites of passage when I was in high school, when I was in college.

00:14:42.600 I'm a Temple University guy.

00:14:43.760 I know.

00:14:44.320 I know.

00:14:44.740 But this time, because of crime right now, I wouldn't even bring my children anywhere near that campus.

00:14:53.240 I've got a four-year-old and a one-year-old.

00:14:54.520 I wouldn't even bring them within a 20-block radius of that campus right now because of what's going on.

00:15:01.160 750 people shot in the city of Philadelphia since Memorial Day.

00:15:06.560 And now, to your point, aren't those people just exercising their freedom, their freedom to shoot other people?

00:15:12.980 No, you know, referring to that great political philosopher you just quoted, Bob Dylan.

00:15:17.680 Yes.

00:15:17.980 You know, that great political philosopher made a great point, which is he said, everybody's got to serve somebody.

00:15:23.460 And so when we think about these battles for freedom, how to live free, it's not just – it isn't even at all a battle between do whatever you want or live like a slave.

00:15:32.320 The question is, who and what are we going to serve?

00:15:36.840 You know, because if freedom were just following your own desires, whatever you want to do, well, yeah, it's true.

00:15:42.820 You do what you want to do.

00:15:44.300 But the weird thing about wanting to do stuff is the more that you do stuff, the more you want to do that stuff.

00:15:48.720 I sound like Yogi Berra, but that's the way it is, you know.

00:15:51.940 The vice and virtue are habits.

00:15:54.800 And so the more you do one of them, the more you're going to get at the political level and at the personal level.

00:15:59.180 So Joe Biden, he has this line, and it's the only thing I think I've ever agreed with Joe Biden on.

00:16:04.460 He says that we are in a battle for the soul of our nation.

00:16:08.600 Now, meanwhile, Joe Biden hires people that wear pentagrams on their chest, hires men who think that they're women who want to castrate children,

00:16:16.820 hires other guys who do even weirder stuff than that with sort of puppies and leather.

00:16:21.060 And it's very, very bizarre.

00:16:22.160 This is a family show, so we're not going to get into it.

00:16:24.140 So when Joe Biden says we're in a fight for the soul of our nation, I think, you know, I think he's right.

00:16:30.120 And he never told us what side he's on.

00:16:32.060 So I don't think he's necessarily lying, but I don't think he's on the right side.

00:16:35.920 And it gets to what Ronald Reagan said.

00:16:37.660 You know, Reagan in the Time for Choosing speech, one of the greatest conservative speeches in American history,

00:16:42.840 he said ultimately when you get down to it, there is no left or right.

00:16:46.980 There is only an up or a down.

00:16:49.080 And so when you're in the fight for the soul of a nation, at a certain point, you've got to pick a side.

00:16:55.260 There is no neutrality, and we need to stop pretending that we're going to come to some conciliation when, in fact, we're not.

00:17:02.940 We need to win the battle, and I think we can, but that requires moral clarity and courage.

00:17:08.760 No, I agree with you.

00:17:09.880 And there was – yeah, please, please.

00:17:11.520 There was an interesting incident, since we're going off of the great moral philosophers and musicians lately.

00:17:24.040 Of course, one of the greatest ones to ever walk, really, in any American stage is the current contemporary singer and flutist, Lizzo.

00:17:31.960 And you may all have seen this recent Lizzo video that went entirely viral, the James Madison flutes, first person, we're told, that has ever played his crystal flute in 200 years.

00:17:47.100 And there were two videos, by the way, and I'm going to be fair about this.

00:17:50.420 There's one video that shows her playing it.

00:17:52.640 I believe it's in either the National Archive or the Smithsonian.

00:17:55.280 She's being very respectful.

00:17:57.500 She's actually fantastic on the flute.

00:17:58.980 Very talented, yeah.

00:17:59.720 Very, very talented.

00:18:00.600 Clearly, 10,000-hour rule in spades, right?

00:18:04.420 And what's interesting, though, is that's not the one that went viral.

00:18:08.480 The one that went viral was when she very, to my mind, disrespectfully, was wearing this scantily clad outfit, picked up the flute of one of our founding fathers, and started twerking while tooting into it.

00:18:20.100 And what was so interesting about that – and I could sit up here and say, oh, how terrible and awful, et cetera.

00:18:25.120 But what was so interesting to me about that was I noticed that there were two responses to that video, and I'm sure you saw this online as well, and just out in the discourse, that it got me to thinking more that has America broken into two societies?

00:18:42.340 And does this really undermine the discussion that we're having about freedom versus not freedom?

00:18:50.140 And this idea that if our moral character is defined, whether or not by our embrace of our past, our history, our understanding of our history, or by overthrowing that history and saying that 1619, America is racist, et cetera.

00:19:07.220 America has always had a founding flaw of slavery, et cetera, et cetera.

00:19:12.200 And therefore, they interpreted that view of the Lizzo video through this post-racial lens where here is a black female singer and performer playing the instrument of one of the founding fathers of a slave-owning era.

00:19:28.160 I don't know if Madison off the top of my head owned slaves or not.

00:19:29.880 And it was so interesting to me that they were celebrating this, and they were almost in tears, ecstatic, that the moment happened.

00:19:40.640 And people were sharing it.

00:19:42.020 People were liking this thing, hundreds of thousands of shares, just as much as people on the other side, and not even want to use the word right, because I'm not sure if that's the right label for it, were shocked and dismayed by this video.

00:19:53.460 And so I'll ask you that question.

00:19:55.460 Do you think that – do you agree with my analysis here, this thesis, that it seems as though we've broken – and it's not geographic society.

00:20:03.520 It's not north-south like it was during the time of the Civil War and prior to the Civil War, but it seems as though it's sort of an ideological social split.

00:20:13.300 Certainly that's the case.

00:20:14.440 I'm certain that while Lizzo was twerking and playing the Madison flute, James Madison was twerking in his grave.

00:20:22.380 You know, I'm sure he was not pleased by this at all.

00:20:25.580 And it could have been something just fine.

00:20:29.840 It's a little weird that Lizzo is the first person in 200 years to be offered this privilege, but she was offered this honor and privilege to attack, to desecrate Madison and the memory of the founding fathers.

00:20:40.040 I mean, that's openly what the left was talking about.

00:20:42.360 It's what the New York Times was talking about.

00:20:43.580 The revolutionary regime always desecrates the symbols and icons of the previous defeated regime.

00:20:49.260 Of course.

00:20:49.860 And so that was obviously what's going on there.

00:20:53.100 And so as an attack, it was a really, really ugly sort of thing.

00:20:59.320 But to your point, the nation has split into two, not along geographic lines.

00:21:05.520 So sometimes I'll hear excitable right-wingers call for civil war.

00:21:09.380 And I say, well, do you want to go shoot your cousins?

00:21:11.340 Because, you know, I don't.

00:21:12.480 And I'm not really eager to do that.

00:21:14.100 And I've never seen a nation break up peacefully.

00:21:16.400 And I'm Catholic, so I oppose divorce in all cases, whether it's a national divorce or a private divorce.

00:21:21.140 And so I just don't think that's going to work at all.

00:21:24.040 I don't think it would be preferable.

00:21:25.420 But it does create a problem.

00:21:26.720 This very word freedom.

00:21:28.040 We don't know how to even use this word in the same way as the left does.

00:21:32.080 And this is true of a whole lot of words.

00:21:33.480 We can't use the word man in the same way that the left does anymore, or woman, or any of the equality, or any of these things.

00:21:40.360 Excuse me, are you a biologist?

00:21:41.260 Do we have any biologists in the area?

00:21:42.720 I want to make sure we're using the proper terms.

00:21:45.140 Where's Dr. Jill?

00:21:45.960 While we're here.

00:21:46.740 Dr. Jill, where is she?

00:21:47.960 She still teaches here.

00:21:48.960 I know she's in Virginia now.

00:21:50.120 So, yeah, I mean, this is the problem with political correctness.

00:21:54.920 This is the problem with wokeism, right, is that the left tries to change the meaning of all the words.

00:22:00.120 And so if you don't speak a common language, you don't have a common country.

00:22:03.060 That's true.

00:22:04.020 However, this is all very depressing.

00:22:07.800 And to use the young Zoomer speak, you know, I'm pretty hip and live with the jive, you know.

00:22:13.700 And so the way that the hip young Zoomers call it.

00:22:16.020 For real, for real, on God?

00:22:17.300 For real, for real.

00:22:17.980 Yeah, no, no cap at all.

00:22:19.720 No cap at all.

00:22:20.700 Awesome.

00:22:21.420 So, but what the young hip Zoomers call it is getting blackpilled, you know.

00:22:26.560 They are really, really depressed.

00:22:28.480 And I think blackpilling is not only stupid.

00:22:31.940 I think it's also sinful.

00:22:33.860 I think we're called to courage.

00:22:35.520 I tweeted this the other day.

00:22:36.700 I said blackpill is cope.

00:22:38.180 Yeah, totally.

00:22:38.920 The blackpill is total cope.

00:22:39.660 It's total cope, right?

00:22:41.060 This idea that, oh, it's nihilistic at the end of the day.

00:22:44.340 It's just embracing nihilism.

00:22:46.120 And nihilism is this idea that, you know, and if you are a believer, by the way, this

00:22:51.660 is the 100% Catholic panel up here.

00:22:54.040 So I don't know if Turning Point's ever done one of those before.

00:22:56.480 A sample of two.

00:22:57.220 A sample of two.

00:22:57.960 We are.

00:22:59.820 So that we're in the Northeast.

00:23:02.180 So it's cool.

00:23:03.100 Well, and don't forget, Joe Biden's a devout Catholic.

00:23:05.380 Right.

00:23:06.280 Very devout.

00:23:07.080 Very devout.

00:23:07.620 Along with Nancy.

00:23:08.620 So devout.

00:23:09.220 More devout than the Pope.

00:23:11.580 Well, that's another discussion.

00:23:16.840 And this is the part where Noel says which one.

00:23:18.820 Yeah.

00:23:20.160 I didn't want to be the one to say it.

00:23:22.040 But actually, you know what?

00:23:23.080 Speaking of the mackerel-snapping papists, there is a great coincidence that we're here

00:23:27.520 this week, which is this week marks the 451st anniversary of one of the most important

00:23:33.420 battles in Western civilization.

00:23:35.200 That would be the Battle of Lepanto.

00:23:37.380 Lepanto.

00:23:37.580 Now, what happened at the Battle of Lepanto?

00:23:40.160 You had the Christian Western Holy League is fighting a much larger force of Ottoman

00:23:45.160 Turks.

00:23:45.960 These guys were pretty serious fellas.

00:23:48.540 This whole thing sort of kicked off when the name, I believe, is Lala Kara Mustafa Pasha.

00:23:55.860 How's that for a name?

00:23:56.800 One of the Ottoman generals flayed alive the Venetian commander, then sewed his skin back

00:24:04.160 together.

00:24:04.500 I'm not making this up.

00:24:05.280 Stuffed his body full of stuffing and paraded him through the streets.

00:24:09.240 Now, as bad as things are for American conservatives, I do not think even Joe Biden would do that

00:24:14.960 to us.

00:24:15.760 I think Corn Pop might do that to us, but I don't think Joe Biden would do it.

00:24:19.180 And so I think, yes, we're facing the threats of censorship.

00:24:22.660 We're facing the threats of prosecution and imprisonment in some cases.

00:24:26.720 I'm thinking of the Midwestern grannies who had the audacity to take selfies in the Capitol

00:24:30.920 Rotunda.

00:24:31.800 You know, they get thrown in solitary and they throw away the book.

00:24:34.320 Yeah, we face a lot of problems.

00:24:36.520 The FBI goes and raids the former president, leading rival to Joe Biden right now, raids

00:24:42.000 his home on bogus charges.

00:24:43.640 These are all big problems.

00:24:44.880 But folks, folks, people have faced tougher enemies in more difficult battles than us.

00:24:51.440 And I think if we can summon the moral clarity to understand the stakes here, and if we can

00:24:55.860 summon the courage, courage, which is not just a virtue, but the prerequisite for all

00:24:59.720 of the other virtues.

00:25:00.620 If we can summon that, I think we're absolutely unstoppable.

00:25:03.940 And I think the libs are going to be run and scared.

00:25:06.500 Amen.

00:25:11.180 Now, what's what's so key about what Michael just said there is moral clarity.

00:25:17.560 The left has that.

00:25:19.160 The left absolutely has moral clarity.

00:25:22.300 Well, for them.

00:25:23.020 Right.

00:25:23.280 Yeah, for them.

00:25:24.200 Yeah.

00:25:24.380 Well, I could make comments there that they believe in their truth.

00:25:31.220 Right.

00:25:31.460 As they like to say of what they're doing.

00:25:33.100 They firmly believe that this country is flawed, that our institutions are flawed.

00:25:39.420 They believe in this idea that every institution in this country is systemically broken and

00:25:45.980 therefore must be brought down, destroyed, toppled.

00:25:50.060 In many cases, like the statues themselves, that is, of course, a symptom of this, that they

00:25:55.200 want to remake that country, our country, in their new image, an image of a new America.

00:26:01.600 Because they have the moral clarity to do that.

00:26:05.220 And it is only a movement with moral clarity that can ever achieve that critical mass of

00:26:11.000 being able to share.

00:26:11.960 And it doesn't take much.

00:26:12.900 It doesn't take much.

00:26:13.680 Just like at the time of the revolution, it doesn't take a firm majority.

00:26:18.400 It just takes a strong minority to be able to shift everything.

00:26:23.960 Well, I do.

00:26:25.060 You know, I did actually go back and look up something.

00:26:27.080 So we saw this ubiquitously in 2020 with the BLM Antifa riots.

00:26:33.580 I was in Chaz in Seattle.

00:26:35.420 I was in D.C.

00:26:36.620 I was in Philadelphia.

00:26:37.440 I was in more riots than I can even imagine at this point.

00:26:41.060 Do you need a passport to go into Chaz?

00:26:43.380 Is that, you know, it's a sovereign state?

00:26:45.260 No, because then you would be considered documented.

00:26:48.620 And therefore, you know, by whose authority would you be documented?

00:26:55.200 They're actually, believe it or not, there's a lawsuit going on from the people of Seattle.

00:26:59.800 This is happening right now against the former, God bless, former mayor of Seattle, who was

00:27:06.260 basically run out in disgrace, Jenny Durkin.

00:27:08.340 You remember her.

00:27:08.920 She's the one who said it's going to be a summer of love while we're out there.

00:27:13.660 The minute I got to Chaz, one of the first things that I saw was a homeless guy just completely

00:27:18.860 drugged out of his mind, swinging about a 12-inch Bowie knife, just slashing it about

00:27:23.500 throughout the air like he's Don Quixote fighting dragons.

00:27:26.480 And we eventually got to the point where we picked up this stick and we told him that

00:27:33.900 it was a bigger knife.

00:27:35.320 And so he took the stick and he put the knife down and then we took that knife and got rid

00:27:39.320 of it.

00:27:40.060 I have that on video, actually.

00:27:42.180 And a few people were sitting and they were having their, you know, healing circle and

00:27:47.600 going around the sharing tent and didn't even realize that this guy was almost lopping

00:27:50.760 off parts of their, you know, cranium, which they may have already had prior to me being

00:27:54.820 there.

00:27:55.080 I'm not sure.

00:27:55.540 A little bit, a little loss, I think, at that point.

00:27:58.480 But we realized very quickly how bad it would get.

00:28:01.700 So anyway, this mayor, she's being sued.

00:28:04.180 We just found out she deleted manually 200 text messages during the time of Chaz from the

00:28:11.400 moment that she said it would be the summer of love to the moment when the shooting started

00:28:15.280 and people were being shot up in there because the border defenders thought it was the KKK,

00:28:22.580 but it turned out it was a couple of black teenagers that were out joyriding, shot up

00:28:26.580 their SUV, killed one, injured the other.

00:28:29.240 She deleted the text messages.

00:28:30.680 She's going down.

00:28:32.080 She's going down hard.

00:28:33.060 But it shows you the point I wanted to make, though, actually, wasn't wasn't about Chaz.

00:28:37.960 It was it was about Christopher Columbus, because do you did you know that of all the statues

00:28:46.080 targeted in this entire country, there were only two that stayed up during that summer

00:28:52.620 of 2020.

00:28:53.220 One was the statue of Abraham Lincoln in Washington, D.C.

00:28:57.000 When I was there and Antifa came after us and they tried to tear that down a statue, by

00:29:02.000 the way, that was dedicated literally by Frederick Douglass himself, who was out there.

00:29:06.000 This was the original Lincoln Memorial before the new one new, you know, comparatively.

00:29:10.640 And the other one was the statue of Christopher Columbus that standing right in South Philadelphia,

00:29:16.620 they were not able to get it down.

00:29:18.960 And why is that?

00:29:19.680 Because the Italian boys of South Philadelphia had something to say about that.

00:29:26.580 And they said, no, you're not taking down our statue, Jim Kenney.

00:29:30.280 And that statue, I'm proud to say, is still up today.

00:29:39.520 My brother was down.

00:29:40.960 We ended a little Polish support to that as well.

00:29:42.980 So my brother went.

00:29:43.740 That's good.

00:29:44.340 You want a little bit of Western unity.

00:29:46.920 You know, it Catholic unity and Catholic unity.

00:29:50.240 The the it kind of brings up this question, you know, you gallivanting about in the sovereign

00:29:55.700 principality of Chaz and all the rest of it.

00:29:58.520 I was undocumented in Chaz.

00:30:00.040 You are.

00:30:00.520 You were a border crosser.

00:30:02.420 The the question sometimes comes up.

00:30:05.840 And unfortunately, I think people have lost sense of this in recent years.

00:30:08.860 Would you rather be a poor man in a rich country or a rich man in a poor country?

00:30:13.580 And as we've all become so self-absorbed, certainly on the left, but I think largely on the right, too, in this country, a lot of people have the mentality of, look, who cares what happens to my country?

00:30:22.320 I just want to be rich.

00:30:23.500 And if I really ruin the lives of my fellow citizens, it's no big deal because at least I'll have money in a big house.

00:30:30.060 But but the thing is, if you're rational at all, you would always prefer to be a poor man in a rich country and really in a flourishing country, in a good country, in a stable country.

00:30:40.480 You know, the richest man in Afghanistan had better watch out.

00:30:43.920 He's probably not going to remain rich very long.

00:30:46.300 And if you're in a country that's so full of disorder, where you can't raise a family, where you can't go out for a walk, where you can't have your valuables, where you can't go to church, where you can't exercise your rights, that's no country to live in at all.

00:30:59.300 Our our personal wealth, our personal individual freedom is tied up in a in a communal freedom, in a kind of national freedom, in a good, flourishing country.

00:31:10.100 And so if we want to live free, we need to have a good country and we need to stop the people who are trying to ruin our country and poison it and give us all a crappy way of life.

00:31:18.220 We know what the good life looks like.

00:31:20.460 We've we've lived it, probably many of us, and we've at least seen pictures of it.

00:31:23.620 So we we have some sense of it.

00:31:25.400 And it is absolutely our right.

00:31:27.400 It is our political freedom to demand that from our fellow citizens and to fight for it tooth and nail.

00:31:34.280 Amen.

00:31:34.680 And I, I do also believe very deeply that when it comes to freedom, we should also have the freedom to question, right?

00:31:47.680 The freedom to question your professors, as I'm sure many of you do, especially when you get your grades.

00:31:52.960 No, I did.

00:31:54.180 No, I'm just kidding.

00:31:54.760 I was treated.

00:31:55.100 But this idea that if you're being presented with some orthodoxy, whether it's the orthodoxy of the state, whether it's the orthodoxy of the media, why shouldn't you be able to question that?

00:32:06.800 And we've got videos now from the World Economic Forum, another group of people that tried to have me arrested.

00:32:10.820 Videos from the WHO saying very, very proudly that they worked hand in glove with Google to say, well, we didn't like the and this was the latest video that came out.

00:32:22.900 We didn't like the search results that were coming up when you Googled climate change.

00:32:27.320 And so we went to Google and this is very nonchalant as they talk about ruling our world and controlling our minds that we went to Google and we had a conversation with them.

00:32:35.980 And now that whenever now, whenever you Google climate change, our websites come up and none of these other websites that might call into question some of those interesting, you know, or pesky problems like the hockey stick graph or this idea that, you know, is nuclear energy actually considered green energy?

00:32:50.820 By the way, it ought to be.

00:32:52.020 It's the greenest energy there is.

00:32:53.600 Right.

00:32:53.920 But of course, they don't want that.

00:32:55.120 You know, they don't want nuclear energy.

00:32:56.480 They want nuclear war, it seems like lately.

00:32:58.200 But what's incredible to me, though, is that we live in such an era of censorship, such an era of political repression, such an era of intolerance, all done in the name of tolerance.

00:33:12.820 And this and if you read Derrida, if you read Marcuse, this is exactly what they talk about, that you must be in order to be revolutionary, you must have practice what they call intolerant tolerance, the tolerance of intolerance and repressive tolerance.

00:33:27.420 So your ideas that may simply just be asking a question, not even necessarily refuting what they're saying, just simply questioning their reasoning, questioning their minds, whether it be climate change or even if you acquiesce and say, OK, well, I'll read through on climate change.

00:33:43.680 But, you know, is it anthrocentric?

00:33:45.960 Is it something that humans are creating?

00:33:48.320 Is it something that, you know, me really, you know, me destroying all of my the ability to power my own country?

00:33:54.320 Is that going to save the world?

00:33:55.520 Is it going to stop how many degrees Fahrenheit of the climate going up?

00:33:59.360 You're not allowed to ask any of those questions.

00:34:01.060 And also, of course, their schemes always seem to fall back on paying the government more money and giving the government more power in order to solve whatever problem it is, whether it's covid, whether it's climate change, whether it's monkeypox, whether it's any of these things out there.

00:34:17.200 It's always giving the government more power, which is the answer to them.

00:34:20.960 And I disagree.

00:34:21.600 I think we should give our communities more power.

00:34:24.680 I think we should give our families more power and our parents.

00:34:27.980 I know I'm at a college saying that.

00:34:30.500 I know I'm at a college saying that.

00:34:32.500 But I'll say this as and we're both young fathers up here and there isn't anybody from any position of government that has a right to tell me how to raise my children.

00:34:44.460 And you mentioned when you mentioned the government and especially in light of the prospective nuclear war that we're all facing that you alluded to, there was a really jarring quotation that came out this week.

00:35:01.080 I was reading a piece on the war in Ukraine, a great piece by Christopher Caldwell at Claremont, and he pointed out that Ian Bremmer, the foreign policy writer, a very popular writer, he said that in this war, it's so strange because certain corporations have become literal belligerents in the war.

00:35:19.340 He was referring to Elon Musk, who offered the Starlink satellite system as it was widely considered an act of charity.

00:35:25.940 He was referring to other companies, though.

00:35:28.200 But Google, when you think of the power that a company like Google or Amazon or any other corporation can have, well, obviously they have the power to censor.

00:35:37.720 They censored the duly elected sitting president of the United States on January 7th, 2021.

00:35:42.640 No one, as far as I know, among the American people, said, Google, we want you to have this power.

00:35:47.380 They just sort of took it.

00:35:48.880 And in a self-government where we're supposed to persuade one another to create our laws, that means that they're controlling the entire political order.

00:35:57.060 But then if a corporation can become a belligerent during a war, well, then the corporation can be a target during the war.

00:36:02.880 The corporation is carrying on foreign policy.

00:36:05.880 All of a sudden we look up and there was 10 years ago we used to say, oh, well, if you don't like Google, build your own Google.

00:36:13.200 You know, that's the free market at work.

00:36:14.680 I'm not sure how free that market is, by the way.

00:36:16.840 But regardless, if my rights are being taken away by the U.S. federal government, that bugs me.

00:36:22.260 If my rights are being taken away by Google and, I don't know, Facebook and all these corporations that are frankly less accountable to me even than the government is, and that's damning with faint praise, well, I don't like that either.

00:36:36.160 And I refuse to sit idly by in the name of some quote-unquote principled conservatism, which I think is neither conservative nor particularly principled, and allow these corporations to take away our freedom.

00:36:49.600 You know, the government is not the only threat to our freedom.

00:36:53.340 I can't see too well with the lights.

00:36:55.140 That might be Teddy Roosevelt over there that I'm seeing, you know.

00:36:57.840 I'm a bull moose is what I am, darn it.

00:36:59.920 A little bull moose, right?

00:37:00.540 A little Teddy Roosevelt.

00:37:02.120 If you go, by the way, to, if you go to Milwaukee, you can actually go to the, there's a hotel that's been built on the site of the spot where Roosevelt was actually shot with a Derringer, I believe it was a .38,

00:37:15.640 while he was giving a speech, and had, it hit him in the copy of his speech that he had in his breast pocket.

00:37:23.260 He continued, he decided to continue doing the speech because he had been so much of a hunter in his life,

00:37:30.780 he realized that because he wasn't coughing up blood, that meant the bullet hadn't, I kid you not,

00:37:36.420 he realized that the bullet had not gone into his lung, and therefore he would probably survive because it was just a flesh wound.

00:37:42.080 And that's a real president, ladies and gentlemen.

00:37:47.120 And he was right, by the way.

00:37:48.680 He was 100% right.

00:37:50.000 No, it is worth reiterating here.

00:37:53.720 We should not test this theory tonight.

00:37:55.880 I have no doubt he was right, but I don't want to, I don't want to prove it true.

00:37:59.040 I only have copies of your speech, so it's much longer, it's much thicker than mine.

00:38:02.000 Right now, so, but there was this idea as well that in the Roosevelt era, and you saw this in the conservative movement for many years,

00:38:10.120 where they would try to write off Teddy Roosevelt as a progressive and lump him in with Woodrow Wilson

00:38:14.920 and lump him in with these ideas of, okay, as an example, if you want to understand how you get a Dr. Fauci,

00:38:21.980 you have to go back to Woodrow Wilson, because if you understand Wilson's idea of government,

00:38:28.340 which he got from the Frankfurt School, which he got from Germany,

00:38:31.140 it was this idea that government should be based along the ideals of Darwinism, essentially, of natural selection,

00:38:39.480 that the government should be not this separation of powers, this biblical framework from Isaiah.

00:38:45.060 No, no, no, no, no, right?

00:38:46.380 The king, the lawmaker, and the judge, which should be split in three.

00:38:49.960 No, no, no.

00:38:50.980 The government should be an amorphous entity that is constantly evolving.

00:38:55.500 So the growth of the theory of evolution and the growth of this new form of government actually coincide.

00:39:02.080 And in Wilson's mind, the idea was that they should, this should be in parallel,

00:39:07.800 because the sense of it was that Congress and the founders and the elected representatives,

00:39:14.100 they didn't understand evolution.

00:39:16.660 They didn't understand Darwin.

00:39:17.800 The founding fathers didn't have Darwin.

00:39:19.140 So how could they understand the right processes of the world?

00:39:22.700 And so experts must then evolve to evolve along with material science in the material world,

00:39:30.040 and they should be erected.

00:39:32.200 What they did through this was the growth of the administrative state,

00:39:36.480 the growth of the bureaucracy, the growth of rule by expert, rule by the eggheads in many senses.

00:39:44.640 And what it did actually was it took our constitutional system,

00:39:47.440 and if any of you are in government or in poli-sci, I don't mean to get too poli-sci on you here,

00:39:50.780 but, and I am a Temple grad, so I'm not too good at it,

00:39:53.460 that our sovereignty started leaking out.

00:39:57.980 Our sovereignty started leaking out of the constitutional system,

00:40:01.180 and that opening is where lobbyists, where the academy, where bureaucrats,

00:40:07.700 where so many others were able to come back in,

00:40:09.500 because they realized that if the politicians started just following whatever their edicts were

00:40:15.020 and went along with it, and the court started following along with it

00:40:17.820 because of the court system and the judiciary in general

00:40:20.820 is already sort of tied into the legal profession as it is,

00:40:23.620 they're always sort of hand in hand,

00:40:25.420 that fast forward 100 years, that's how you can get an unelected bureaucrat,

00:40:33.000 this 5'3 doctor, who can say,

00:40:37.460 well, okay, every child in this classroom, I'm not going to do the voice,

00:40:40.760 but every child in the classroom should wear a mask.

00:40:42.520 Every child in the classroom should wear a mask.

00:40:45.260 There it is.

00:40:47.820 Obviously, ask the Italian.

00:40:49.920 So, but the school board's voted against it,

00:40:53.900 and the school board is the closest to,

00:40:56.440 but Dr. Fauci, the school board has voted against it,

00:40:59.400 so we're closest, we control the school,

00:41:01.520 so you can't override us, can you?

00:41:04.540 He can.

00:41:05.260 He can do whatever he wants.

00:41:06.660 What about the governor?

00:41:07.360 What if the governor of Tennessee himself

00:41:09.780 says that he agrees with the school board,

00:41:12.320 files it in court,

00:41:13.580 the court's surely going to side with the duly electorate.

00:41:15.340 I don't care about no stinking governor.

00:41:17.340 Why do I need to answer to some governor?

00:41:19.080 I'm Dr. Fauci.

00:41:20.080 I do what I want.

00:41:21.180 No, but Dr. Fauci, I don't understand.

00:41:23.380 I mean, so you're just doing this out of love, of country?

00:41:27.080 I'm doing it because it is my birthright

00:41:30.300 to tell all of you little sheep exactly what you should do.

00:41:33.700 You should wear the mask.

00:41:34.880 Don't wear the mask.

00:41:35.700 Wear it again.

00:41:36.660 Do whatever I say.

00:41:38.220 Well, fortunately.

00:41:38.880 For I am the great Dr. Fauci.

00:41:39.920 Well, of course, you're just doing this out of the goodness of your heart.

00:41:43.940 I mean, it's not like you stand to gain any kind of,

00:41:46.300 I don't know, financial profit.

00:41:47.740 What, a lot of money?

00:41:48.640 Yeah, never mind.

00:41:49.740 We don't need to talk about that.

00:41:51.280 Don't poke around my books, Senator Paul.

00:41:53.720 And of course, you'll just release your financial documents.

00:41:56.620 By the way, when Senator Paul, Senator Rand Paul,

00:42:00.960 is in the majority, I interviewed him last week.

00:42:03.700 He said that he's going to appoint a special counsel specifically for Dr. Fauci.

00:42:10.300 We're not letting that one go.

00:42:14.900 We're not letting that one go.

00:42:17.020 But I want you to understand that.

00:42:18.760 I want you to understand that if you have to go all the way back to Wilson

00:42:21.560 and this idea of an ever-evolving permanent state,

00:42:27.000 and this is where you get the idea that your rights are countermanded.

00:42:32.300 The entire electoral system, the system that was written and laid down for us by the founders

00:42:36.600 at Independence Hall, again, right over here in Pennsylvania,

00:42:40.860 same area, same building, actually, where the declaration was signed,

00:42:44.160 Fifth and Market is where Jefferson wrote it,

00:42:46.800 that you don't have that anymore.

00:42:49.600 You have the role of these little unelected freaks

00:42:52.800 who just make decisions on a whim,

00:42:56.800 and one day he says he's for masks, and one day he says he's not,

00:42:59.220 and one day he says natural immunity is amazing,

00:43:01.620 and one day he says, no, of course you don't need natural immunity.

00:43:03.740 By the way, I'm unvaccinated, my family's unvaccinated,

00:43:08.140 we have natural immunity, we're sticking with that.

00:43:13.800 Are you really going to admit that?

00:43:15.480 They're going to come after you, they're going to kick down your door,

00:43:17.880 they're going to go after you.

00:43:18.980 You know, points very, very well taken, Jack,

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00:45:23.360 In the spirit of restoring power to the people,

00:45:26.440 giving people a say not just in their government,

00:45:28.620 but in this very event tonight,

00:45:30.160 should we take some questions from the audience?

00:45:32.020 This audience, I don't know.

00:45:33.120 I don't know.

00:45:34.200 I don't know if they have any good ones.

00:45:36.100 I'll take good questions.

00:45:37.620 Wait, actually, no.

00:45:38.820 Let's take the bad questions first.

00:45:40.840 You know, this is a rule that my colleagues have had for so long.

00:45:44.180 They say, if you disagree with us,

00:45:46.740 come to the front of the line.

00:45:47.680 I think if you disagree with me, you should go to Guantanamo Bay.

00:45:51.000 But my more open-minded colleagues,

00:45:53.080 they insist that you go to the front of the line.

00:45:56.660 I'm actually serious about that.

00:45:57.900 If we have any socialists in the room or, you know, full on,

00:46:01.520 if you're from the, what is it,

00:46:03.580 the gender clinic at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia,

00:46:06.600 please, please come on down.

00:46:08.000 We just broke the news a few hours ago, by the way,

00:46:10.580 that the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia,

00:46:13.460 working, of course, with the great Dr. Rachel Levine,

00:46:15.740 don't we all love her, don't we love her so much,

00:46:18.120 our greatest military officer,

00:46:20.760 that not only are they pushing gender transitions for children,

00:46:26.560 they will, number one, if you're in the foster system,

00:46:31.000 because, of course, you know, kids in the foster system,

00:46:33.060 I mean, they don't have any issues to deal with,

00:46:34.540 that they directly target children in the foster system

00:46:38.520 and will put them in for these treatments

00:46:41.260 without any need for parental consent,

00:46:44.160 because there's no parents in the picture or legal guardians.

00:46:47.200 Number two, we lately found out

00:46:49.600 that the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia,

00:46:51.540 a gender clinic,

00:46:52.620 I've just been, I was just speaking in Philadelphia this weekend,

00:46:54.980 that's why I'm hot on it,

00:46:55.780 that they're now recruiting their research subjects,

00:47:00.520 I don't know if they're suspects, but it's almost similar,

00:47:02.840 at homeless shelters.

00:47:05.700 Children at Homeless Covenant House,

00:47:07.840 right in North Philadelphia,

00:47:09.020 they're recruiting children for gender studies up there.

00:47:12.280 That's what's going on.

00:47:13.280 And if you could,

00:47:14.520 growing up in the Philadelphia area,

00:47:17.420 if you heard the name CHOP,

00:47:19.480 right, that was sacrosanct,

00:47:20.660 that was beloved,

00:47:23.040 that was just,

00:47:24.060 if you had a problem,

00:47:25.440 God forbid, with your child,

00:47:26.980 you would take him to Children's Hospital,

00:47:28.400 you knew everything was going to be fine.

00:47:30.060 Now, if you have a problem with Timmy,

00:47:32.160 you send him to Children's Hospital,

00:47:33.280 maybe he comes back as Jenny,

00:47:34.480 maybe they don't let him come back at all, right?

00:47:36.500 This is the insanity,

00:47:38.740 this is the absolute insanity that's going on

00:47:41.040 in this dark alliance,

00:47:43.040 and I call it a dark alliance,

00:47:44.640 between crooked politicians,

00:47:46.420 Dr. Rachel Levine,

00:47:47.480 and the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia,

00:47:48.820 and many other children's hospitals,

00:47:50.120 for example,

00:47:51.020 your colleague,

00:47:52.120 Mr. Matt Walsh,

00:47:53.240 the great Matt Walsh,

00:47:54.960 just exposed Vanderbilt,

00:47:59.900 and they called it a cash cow.

00:48:02.540 Yeah.

00:48:02.840 They called it a cash cow.

00:48:03.700 And you think about,

00:48:04.700 look,

00:48:05.320 when something crazy happens in Boston,

00:48:06.940 I say,

00:48:07.340 okay, that's Boston.

00:48:08.280 Something crazy happens in Philly,

00:48:09.720 I say,

00:48:10.000 okay, that's Philly.

00:48:10.880 Something crazy happens in Tennessee.

00:48:12.760 Tennessee,

00:48:13.260 that's supposed to be

00:48:14.000 the red part of the country,

00:48:15.520 and so it's everywhere,

00:48:16.840 and they're pushing it everywhere,

00:48:18.400 and all it takes,

00:48:19.580 look,

00:48:19.920 the people are on our side

00:48:20.920 on this issue.

00:48:21.660 The vast majority of Americans

00:48:22.840 don't want to trans the kids.

00:48:24.420 Very powerful people

00:48:25.460 in very specific offices

00:48:28.020 are pushing this kind of thing.

00:48:29.680 The people,

00:48:30.200 I think,

00:48:30.660 can push back.

00:48:32.700 Speaking of the people.

00:48:33.520 I was just wondering,

00:48:38.460 so you guys are both,

00:48:39.160 I guess,

00:48:39.480 pretty big Catholic,

00:48:40.580 you know,

00:48:41.420 Republican speakers

00:48:42.340 in the area,

00:48:43.180 and I was wondering,

00:48:44.080 besides from,

00:48:44.940 you know,

00:48:45.260 your big Catholic background roots,

00:48:47.020 were there any other influence

00:48:47.900 you've had,

00:48:48.320 whether it be organizations

00:48:49.140 or people that helped

00:48:49.700 shape your opinions,

00:48:51.260 or even now,

00:48:52.440 different organizations

00:48:53.320 that helped shape your opinions?

00:48:55.100 Religious opinions

00:48:55.820 or political opinions?

00:48:56.520 Political opinions,

00:48:57.180 like,

00:48:57.360 such as Catholic.

00:48:58.760 Oh,

00:48:59.020 certainly.

00:48:59.620 Yeah,

00:48:59.940 certainly.

00:49:00.360 I mean,

00:49:01.240 one thing I will say

00:49:03.700 about going to a left-wing school

00:49:05.260 or being in a left-wing state,

00:49:07.360 I think it can be very helpful.

00:49:09.260 I am from New York.

00:49:10.760 I went to one of the most

00:49:12.520 left-wing schools

00:49:13.200 in the United States.

00:49:14.060 I lived in Los Angeles.

00:49:15.160 I've been around libs

00:49:16.060 statistically my entire life,

00:49:18.100 you know,

00:49:18.360 just in a dominant liberal culture,

00:49:20.180 and it did help me

00:49:21.300 to form my views of things

00:49:22.780 because you're confronted constantly

00:49:25.460 with all of the liberal opinions,

00:49:27.700 right?

00:49:27.800 There is no liberal opinion

00:49:28.980 I have not heard.

00:49:30.740 The libs have not heard

00:49:31.920 very many of the conservative opinions

00:49:33.840 unless they have the misfortune

00:49:35.180 of being stuck in an elevator with me,

00:49:36.740 in which case they might have.

00:49:38.440 But it gives you this opportunity

00:49:39.620 where you say,

00:49:40.120 look,

00:49:40.240 if I'm going to disagree

00:49:41.280 with one of these liberals,

00:49:42.920 I really need to have an answer

00:49:44.600 because they're going to come at me

00:49:45.680 with bullets,

00:49:46.660 rhetorical bullets at least,

00:49:48.140 maybe physical ones too.

00:49:49.160 And so that caused me

00:49:51.260 to do some of my own reading.

00:49:52.780 Some sort of those small groups

00:49:54.620 of conservatives at school

00:49:55.720 really helped me.

00:49:56.580 Edmund Burke

00:49:57.660 really helped me.

00:49:59.100 Lewis Chesterton,

00:50:00.800 who also,

00:50:01.440 there is overlap there

00:50:02.260 with religion.

00:50:03.760 Michael Oakeshott,

00:50:04.840 I felt,

00:50:05.160 was an important

00:50:05.800 philosophical influence.

00:50:07.380 Good old Uncle Aristotle

00:50:08.380 and Uncle Plato,

00:50:09.220 I think,

00:50:09.480 are very important.

00:50:10.840 You know,

00:50:11.620 Ben Shapiro made this point

00:50:13.840 to me once,

00:50:14.580 which is,

00:50:15.020 I said,

00:50:15.320 Ben,

00:50:15.540 I've only read one or two books

00:50:16.900 on Christopher Columbus,

00:50:18.040 and people are calling me up

00:50:19.260 to be an expert on TV

00:50:20.540 about Christopher Columbus.

00:50:21.480 And he said,

00:50:22.460 well,

00:50:22.620 Michael,

00:50:22.880 the reason for that is

00:50:23.700 if you read one book

00:50:25.240 on anything,

00:50:26.200 you know more about it

00:50:27.280 than 99% of people.

00:50:29.140 And so you're not going

00:50:29.900 to learn these things.

00:50:30.760 It's true.

00:50:31.420 It's true.

00:50:32.460 You're not going to learn

00:50:33.420 these things very likely

00:50:34.360 in the classroom.

00:50:35.220 But if you go out

00:50:36.280 and you say,

00:50:36.780 well,

00:50:36.900 I heard about this.

00:50:37.580 I'd like an answer to this.

00:50:38.420 And you read a book

00:50:39.080 or two on it,

00:50:39.920 and then you talk to people,

00:50:41.400 you know,

00:50:41.580 and you find sort of

00:50:42.480 affinity groups on that,

00:50:43.640 you will be able

00:50:44.260 to educate yourself

00:50:45.260 very,

00:50:46.000 very quickly,

00:50:46.420 much better than

00:50:46.960 your liberal colleagues.

00:50:47.760 Thank you.

00:50:56.480 Hello,

00:50:56.920 Michael.

00:50:57.180 How are you?

00:50:58.300 Hello.

00:50:58.580 I'm doing well.

00:50:59.260 I'm doing better now

00:50:59.980 than I'm talking to you.

00:51:00.900 Is that mic on?

00:51:02.280 I don't know.

00:51:03.960 My name is Clinton,

00:51:05.880 and I have a kind of

00:51:09.020 philosophical question.

00:51:11.220 So obviously the right,

00:51:13.140 pro-choice.

00:51:14.320 I mean,

00:51:14.500 oh my God,

00:51:15.100 pro-life.

00:51:15.460 And as well as

00:51:17.720 more in favor

00:51:19.840 of small government

00:51:21.620 than the larger government.

00:51:24.440 Okay?

00:51:24.840 So in that respect,

00:51:27.220 as far as your position

00:51:28.320 on the right,

00:51:28.920 being a Catholic

00:51:29.520 and everything,

00:51:31.580 if it came down

00:51:33.040 to abortion,

00:51:38.240 another way,

00:51:39.120 okay,

00:51:39.280 if the right were

00:51:40.240 to take more power

00:51:41.980 in Congress

00:51:43.280 and everything,

00:51:44.360 and it came

00:51:45.940 to a point

00:51:46.580 where it was

00:51:49.000 the reverse,

00:51:49.800 where we could now

00:51:50.880 make it pro-life

00:51:53.280 like across

00:51:54.340 the United States

00:51:55.240 or we could keep it

00:51:56.740 at the

00:51:58.240 smaller governmental

00:52:00.240 level

00:52:00.900 where,

00:52:02.740 what do you think

00:52:05.100 should be done?

00:52:05.800 I am not

00:52:06.560 for small government.

00:52:07.880 I'm for limited government,

00:52:09.380 but I'm not

00:52:09.860 for small government.

00:52:10.820 There is no

00:52:11.360 small government

00:52:11.980 in a country

00:52:12.480 of 330 million people

00:52:13.820 with a global empire.

00:52:14.880 So I think

00:52:15.760 that government

00:52:16.180 ought to be

00:52:16.860 within its proper limits.

00:52:19.140 And I think

00:52:19.480 protecting life

00:52:20.560 is,

00:52:21.300 if that is not

00:52:22.180 within the proper

00:52:23.120 limits of government,

00:52:23.940 then there are

00:52:24.380 no proper limits

00:52:25.140 of government.

00:52:25.760 And so I am

00:52:26.720 absolutely for,

00:52:28.360 I think there's

00:52:29.080 a strong argument

00:52:30.000 that the 14th Amendment,

00:52:31.740 as it is written

00:52:32.600 and ratified,

00:52:33.680 outlaws abortion.

00:52:34.660 I think Robbie George

00:52:35.580 and John Finnis

00:52:36.340 made that point

00:52:36.960 very well

00:52:37.640 in an amicus brief

00:52:38.400 on the Dobbs decision.

00:52:39.280 If there were

00:52:41.000 a law

00:52:42.240 at the national level

00:52:43.120 to outlaw abortion,

00:52:44.200 even if it in some sense

00:52:45.460 grew the government,

00:52:46.260 I would be totally fine

00:52:47.400 with that in principle.

00:52:49.000 Now as a prudential

00:52:49.920 or practical matter,

00:52:50.960 that might not be able

00:52:51.640 to work,

00:52:52.100 and so you try

00:52:53.200 to protect life

00:52:54.000 where you can.

00:52:55.000 But in principle,

00:52:55.680 I see absolutely

00:52:56.500 no problem with it.

00:52:58.860 One last thing.

00:53:01.240 So I'm constantly

00:53:02.600 thrust into these situations

00:53:04.780 where I'm trying

00:53:06.280 to debate,

00:53:08.540 if you will,

00:53:09.320 people on the left,

00:53:10.920 not in an aggressive fashion,

00:53:13.000 just to kind of,

00:53:13.900 you know,

00:53:14.120 hey, this is my thought,

00:53:15.200 what, you know,

00:53:15.660 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:53:17.020 And I find that

00:53:18.120 if I don't say

00:53:19.340 exactly what they say,

00:53:21.140 what they want me to say,

00:53:22.320 or like,

00:53:22.640 what's your view on this?

00:53:23.320 And I'm like,

00:53:23.600 well, I kind of think this,

00:53:24.800 but also,

00:53:25.720 then all of a sudden,

00:53:26.420 I'm a bigot,

00:53:27.100 I'm this, I'm that.

00:53:28.160 And then there's like

00:53:29.300 an army of them.

00:53:32.260 How do I

00:53:33.060 de-escalate?

00:53:36.300 How do I continue?

00:53:38.080 I mean,

00:53:38.280 do I just walk away?

00:53:39.560 Do I stand there?

00:53:40.320 I happen to be on stage

00:53:41.440 with a guy

00:53:41.920 who managed to

00:53:43.260 have a hot confrontation

00:53:44.960 with one of the top libs

00:53:46.440 in the country

00:53:47.120 and did de-escalate it.

00:53:49.420 So I,

00:53:50.240 I got it,

00:53:50.920 I had a little confrontation

00:53:52.500 with Jon Stewart

00:53:53.360 a couple,

00:53:54.600 a couple weeks ago

00:53:55.160 and at this point now.

00:53:56.740 And this guy

00:53:57.760 was just coming at me

00:53:59.140 so hard.

00:54:00.320 How could you come?

00:54:01.600 You're just a troll.

00:54:02.440 You don't care about

00:54:03.540 any of this stuff.

00:54:04.460 You're just here for cloud.

00:54:05.560 I said,

00:54:05.960 Jon,

00:54:06.260 which event was this?

00:54:07.400 You know,

00:54:07.600 this was,

00:54:08.240 this was the burn pits.

00:54:09.760 This was the burn pits bill

00:54:10.820 was going through

00:54:11.880 and it was the funding

00:54:12.460 for the burn pits

00:54:13.240 and Senator Cruz

00:54:14.080 had initially voted for it,

00:54:16.700 but then pulled his vote

00:54:17.660 and there was some question

00:54:18.380 about his motives,

00:54:19.380 right?

00:54:19.600 And this was the,

00:54:20.140 this was the issue

00:54:20.700 that I had

00:54:21.260 was that,

00:54:22.720 and I said,

00:54:23.280 Jon,

00:54:23.840 I said,

00:54:24.760 Jon,

00:54:25.120 I'm going to give you

00:54:26.820 the benefit of the doubt

00:54:28.040 and I'm going to say,

00:54:29.020 I don't question

00:54:30.100 your motives on this

00:54:31.060 because Jon Stewart

00:54:32.340 has been great

00:54:33.000 when it came to the 9-11

00:54:34.200 first responders.

00:54:35.240 He has.

00:54:36.380 And I wasn't questioning

00:54:37.780 his motives

00:54:38.560 on the burn pit victims,

00:54:40.260 by the way,

00:54:40.820 and not to get into the issue,

00:54:42.020 that's veterans

00:54:42.540 who have had

00:54:43.320 smoke inhalation

00:54:44.340 because of the burn pits

00:54:45.380 in Afghanistan,

00:54:46.220 Iraq.

00:54:46.820 I've had friends

00:54:47.740 from when I served

00:54:48.420 in the Navy

00:54:48.840 who had gone through that.

00:54:51.020 I have friends who,

00:54:53.160 you know,

00:54:53.700 girl,

00:54:54.000 I knew my unit,

00:54:54.700 she was losing her toenails,

00:54:55.940 losing her fingernails,

00:54:56.740 her hair

00:54:57.200 because of this stuff.

00:54:58.460 I know a guy who,

00:54:59.560 you know,

00:54:59.700 he can't go over

00:55:00.320 a certain altitude

00:55:01.060 because he just can't

00:55:02.440 because it was long.

00:55:04.080 But what Stewart was doing

00:55:06.200 was saying,

00:55:06.680 well,

00:55:07.180 that Cruz had pulled his vote

00:55:08.520 not because of a fiscal reason

00:55:09.880 to me as well

00:55:10.600 and I'm no huge fan

00:55:12.980 of Pat Toomey

00:55:13.840 that because they hated

00:55:16.240 the troops

00:55:16.700 and I said,

00:55:17.060 Jon,

00:55:17.300 what I did was

00:55:18.200 I showed him respect

00:55:19.060 and I said,

00:55:20.280 I respect your motives

00:55:21.360 and I respect your ideals

00:55:22.860 but if you want

00:55:24.260 to come together,

00:55:25.240 I'll work with you

00:55:26.540 but we have to put

00:55:28.540 the veterans first.

00:55:30.320 We have to put

00:55:30.720 the people first

00:55:31.680 and in doing that

00:55:32.640 and showing respect,

00:55:33.760 we actually did

00:55:35.160 a great video afterwards

00:55:36.280 and the bill did pass.

00:55:38.500 I'm a veteran as well

00:55:39.660 so thank you for your service.

00:55:41.080 Thank you for your service.

00:55:43.060 One final question.

00:55:45.220 Why do people

00:55:46.080 even try to argue

00:55:47.280 with you guys?

00:55:48.100 We've got a long line

00:55:49.100 behind you.

00:55:49.800 Why do people debate?

00:55:52.280 We'll talk after.

00:55:53.280 We'll be around.

00:55:53.940 We'll be around.

00:55:54.500 Thank you.

00:55:55.760 Hi.

00:55:56.540 So I guess

00:55:58.160 my question deals with

00:55:59.700 so like in general,

00:56:01.560 like you said,

00:56:02.480 you support limited government.

00:56:03.920 How does this tie

00:56:05.620 into foreign policy?

00:56:07.340 Because often I think

00:56:08.520 there's like a trend

00:56:09.880 with conservatives

00:56:10.540 since Reagan

00:56:11.220 to say they support

00:56:12.700 limited government

00:56:13.400 while also

00:56:14.740 propping up

00:56:15.820 this huge military

00:56:17.580 and in my opinion,

00:56:19.140 like often like

00:56:20.380 an empire

00:56:21.540 that edges

00:56:23.080 on imperialistic.

00:56:23.960 like the U.S.

00:56:25.160 does things.

00:56:26.240 It's a fair question.

00:56:26.960 It doesn't just edge.

00:56:28.120 America is an empire.

00:56:29.400 It's a global empire.

00:56:31.180 Yeah.

00:56:31.500 In many ways,

00:56:32.480 people,

00:56:33.020 there's actually an argument

00:56:34.180 I heard recently

00:56:34.740 that say 500 years

00:56:36.900 from now,

00:56:37.580 there may not be

00:56:39.060 any meaningful distinction

00:56:40.140 between the British Empire

00:56:41.320 and the American Empire

00:56:42.320 and they may just lump it

00:56:43.240 into a British-American era.

00:56:44.960 So do you,

00:56:47.200 how do you think

00:56:47.700 we should conduct

00:56:48.960 ourselves on the world stage?

00:56:50.240 Like keeping in like

00:56:51.520 morals in question,

00:56:52.760 like specifically one thing

00:56:53.780 is like America

00:56:54.780 supports things like,

00:56:56.380 supports like Israel's

00:56:57.680 like expansion to Palestine

00:56:58.880 and all the human rights

00:57:00.340 atrocities that happen there

00:57:01.440 or like,

00:57:02.900 I mean,

00:57:03.280 yeah,

00:57:03.460 that's one of the big ones

00:57:05.060 or like,

00:57:06.840 like our covert interventions

00:57:10.260 in Latin America,

00:57:11.440 all that stuff.

00:57:11.980 I mean,

00:57:12.120 like do you think that like

00:57:13.300 as conservatives,

00:57:14.800 you have a duty

00:57:16.640 to stand up

00:57:17.420 and protest these

00:57:19.280 like imperial ambitions?

00:57:21.240 I know like paleocons

00:57:22.240 would say like,

00:57:22.720 oh yes,

00:57:23.180 but neocons don't.

00:57:24.000 I mean,

00:57:24.080 I guess I'm wondering

00:57:24.500 where you stand

00:57:25.300 in between that.

00:57:26.720 Like,

00:57:27.120 how do you think

00:57:27.860 we should conduct ourselves?

00:57:29.500 I mean,

00:57:29.780 I won't speak for Michael,

00:57:30.940 but for me,

00:57:31.500 it's America first,

00:57:32.460 right?

00:57:32.640 For me,

00:57:32.900 it's just America first

00:57:33.900 and this idea that

00:57:34.880 if we're going to,

00:57:36.960 if we're going to be

00:57:40.820 spending money

00:57:41.420 to defend borders,

00:57:42.840 it ought to be borders

00:57:43.840 that benefit Americans,

00:57:45.420 not benefit the borders

00:57:46.880 of any other country first.

00:57:49.720 If we're going to be

00:57:50.560 spending money on aid,

00:57:52.060 then I want that aid

00:57:52.840 going to Florida

00:57:53.960 and yes,

00:57:54.600 also to Puerto Rico.

00:57:55.920 All right,

00:57:56.160 President Biden,

00:57:56.680 he's there right now.

00:57:57.440 God bless him.

00:57:58.140 God bless him.

00:57:58.940 I just forgot that Florida

00:57:59.780 got hit as well.

00:58:01.520 But this idea that

00:58:03.220 we need to be all things

00:58:04.420 for all people,

00:58:05.140 we just don't have to,

00:58:05.840 like practical matter,

00:58:07.080 we don't have the money

00:58:07.600 in the bank, folks,

00:58:08.900 right?

00:58:09.100 We're printing money

00:58:10.260 like crazy

00:58:11.440 and the neocons

00:58:12.980 want to do it

00:58:13.620 for the defense contractors.

00:58:16.560 The libs want to do it

00:58:17.840 for universities

00:58:18.640 and all of their pet projects

00:58:20.520 and at the end of the day,

00:58:21.620 we've been broke

00:58:22.520 for a very,

00:58:23.400 very long time

00:58:24.480 and that's why it is

00:58:25.880 that the financial security

00:58:27.520 of the millennials

00:58:29.360 and the Zoomers

00:58:30.360 is very,

00:58:31.440 very much

00:58:32.000 in a crisis

00:58:32.760 because the people

00:58:34.160 who came before you

00:58:35.280 were completely

00:58:36.780 irresponsible financially,

00:58:38.660 completely irresponsible.

00:58:40.440 That is why

00:58:41.360 our life expectancy

00:58:43.200 is going down.

00:58:44.200 That's why the economy

00:58:45.080 is in the sorry state

00:58:45.900 that it's in.

00:58:46.660 That's why the U.S. dollar

00:58:47.700 is burgeoning

00:58:49.220 on perhaps

00:58:49.840 falling off the face

00:58:51.600 of the global charts

00:58:53.100 in terms of the world

00:58:53.800 reserve currency,

00:58:55.040 right?

00:58:55.420 That's because of our own

00:58:56.600 financial irresponsibility

00:58:58.140 and they're going to sit there

00:58:59.280 and blame you

00:59:00.100 and say it's all your fault.

00:59:01.600 No, it's not.

00:59:02.180 It's their fault.

00:59:03.000 There is.

00:59:03.760 That's a good point.

00:59:04.420 There is also this fact

00:59:08.580 of the fallen world

00:59:09.400 which is that

00:59:09.900 great strong nations

00:59:10.840 become empires

00:59:11.660 and that's just

00:59:12.260 sort of what happens

00:59:13.180 and you can try

00:59:13.840 to stave it off

00:59:14.520 a little bit

00:59:15.020 and you can try

00:59:15.740 to pull back

00:59:16.280 here or there

00:59:16.840 but as Jack pointed out

00:59:18.840 the only way

00:59:19.760 that our economy

00:59:21.160 is staying afloat

00:59:22.640 right now

00:59:22.960 is because

00:59:23.440 the U.S. dollar

00:59:24.720 is the global

00:59:25.320 reserve currency

00:59:26.200 and the way

00:59:27.020 that the U.S. dollar

00:59:27.600 is the global

00:59:28.140 reserve currency

00:59:28.800 is because we're

00:59:29.380 the global hegemon

00:59:30.220 that governs

00:59:31.400 a worldwide empire

00:59:32.960 and so you raise

00:59:34.200 a question about

00:59:34.860 America's relationship

00:59:35.800 with Israel

00:59:36.400 America's made a decision

00:59:37.820 to support Israel

00:59:38.840 and to support

00:59:39.380 the existence of Israel

00:59:40.400 in a hostile neighborhood

00:59:41.660 where a lot of neighbors

00:59:42.460 want to destroy Israel

00:59:44.060 and so you might say

00:59:45.480 well I don't like that

00:59:46.640 I think the United States

00:59:47.620 should pull away

00:59:48.560 from Israel

00:59:49.080 you know

00:59:49.400 whatever your view

00:59:51.420 is on that particular

00:59:52.520 relationship

00:59:53.480 it is simply a fact

00:59:54.520 that nations

00:59:55.040 are going to have

00:59:55.920 alliances

00:59:56.680 and nations

00:59:57.580 you know

00:59:58.220 certainly an empire

00:59:59.400 can't govern

01:00:00.160 the world

01:00:01.000 if it doesn't have alliances

01:00:02.040 so you bring up

01:00:02.640 covert action

01:00:03.560 in Latin America

01:00:04.400 and the United States

01:00:05.900 saw that it was

01:00:06.780 in its interest

01:00:07.300 to prevent

01:00:07.780 communist infiltration

01:00:08.940 in Latin America

01:00:10.000 and so we went in there

01:00:11.060 and propped up

01:00:11.920 some guys

01:00:12.320 that we thought

01:00:12.720 were more favorable

01:00:13.380 to our interests

01:00:14.240 I think nations do that

01:00:16.000 throughout the history

01:00:16.600 of the world

01:00:17.040 and empires

01:00:17.940 certainly have to do that

01:00:19.000 so that's just a fact

01:00:21.460 and would that we

01:00:22.500 could all return

01:00:23.300 you know

01:00:23.620 to some idyllic time

01:00:24.560 in the past

01:00:25.040 that never existed

01:00:26.460 by the way

01:00:27.020 where we didn't have

01:00:28.260 to worry about

01:00:28.780 these things

01:00:29.220 but we do

01:00:30.060 and so to me

01:00:31.440 the question is less

01:00:32.440 can we

01:00:33.580 you know

01:00:33.900 I don't know

01:00:34.260 is it wise

01:00:35.000 to abandon

01:00:35.480 the American empire

01:00:36.160 could we even

01:00:36.880 abandon the American empire

01:00:38.000 but the question is

01:00:39.040 how are we going to

01:00:39.860 play the hand

01:00:40.500 that we are dealt

01:00:41.340 and how can we do that

01:00:42.320 in a just way

01:00:43.100 and in a way

01:00:43.780 that's not going to

01:00:44.660 throw our own citizens

01:00:46.440 out the window

01:00:47.000 and destabilize

01:00:48.880 the entire world

01:00:49.800 and a lot of that

01:00:51.020 does come down

01:00:51.620 to prudence

01:00:52.120 and judgment

01:00:52.540 and competence

01:00:53.200 and one of my issues

01:00:54.680 by the way

01:00:55.040 when we talk about

01:00:55.760 we alluded earlier

01:00:56.740 to the potential nuclear war

01:00:57.940 that we're facing

01:00:58.500 because the United States

01:00:59.540 has just stumbled

01:01:00.200 into a proxy war

01:01:01.160 with a nuclear

01:01:02.500 former superpower

01:01:03.420 but one of the issues

01:01:05.260 here is just

01:01:06.040 sheer competence

01:01:06.780 and so again

01:01:07.980 you know

01:01:08.340 you bring up

01:01:09.040 really sort of

01:01:09.600 ideological issues

01:01:10.780 you know

01:01:11.900 Israel

01:01:12.640 or Latin America

01:01:14.460 or whatever

01:01:14.780 but there is just

01:01:15.600 a level of competence

01:01:16.500 if you're going to

01:01:16.920 have a global empire

01:01:17.740 you need competent

01:01:18.700 managers

01:01:19.180 and unfortunately

01:01:20.040 not just the elected

01:01:21.280 officials

01:01:21.640 not just Joe Biden

01:01:22.600 but the deep state

01:01:23.840 you know

01:01:24.100 the permanent government

01:01:24.960 I would add

01:01:25.560 I would add

01:01:26.400 that I actually

01:01:27.640 do support

01:01:28.380 covert operations

01:01:29.860 in Latin America

01:01:30.620 specifically

01:01:31.340 the ones that

01:01:32.780 I would support

01:01:33.280 right now

01:01:33.820 is just south

01:01:34.800 of the border

01:01:35.260 these organizations

01:01:36.180 called the

01:01:36.840 narco-terrorist cartels

01:01:38.320 and I would

01:01:39.020 absolutely support

01:01:40.220 covert activity

01:01:41.020 to take every

01:01:41.920 single one of them out

01:01:42.760 or overt

01:01:45.760 whichever

01:01:46.240 I'm good

01:01:48.380 I always find

01:01:49.560 the foreign policy

01:01:50.480 questions are

01:01:51.220 really frustrating

01:01:52.020 because there's

01:01:53.080 no easy

01:01:54.260 dunk answer

01:01:55.140 to it

01:01:55.500 it's just

01:01:56.000 extraordinarily

01:01:56.840 complicated

01:01:57.600 and to deny

01:01:58.800 America as an empire

01:01:59.840 is just to deny

01:02:00.660 reality

01:02:01.220 and so what are you

01:02:02.140 going to do

01:02:02.460 you're going to

01:02:02.840 try to keep it afloat

01:02:03.700 right if we're going

01:02:04.200 to nation build

01:02:04.740 and have a global empire

01:02:05.880 you'd think we'd at least

01:02:06.740 be nation building

01:02:07.620 in nations that

01:02:08.900 I don't know

01:02:09.300 share a contiguous

01:02:10.120 continent with us

01:02:11.060 maybe

01:02:11.320 that keep sending

01:02:12.260 we don't have

01:02:12.820 a narco state

01:02:13.560 that's just operating

01:02:14.520 in

01:02:14.980 I mean there's

01:02:15.460 you understand

01:02:15.980 there's cartel wars

01:02:17.060 going on in Mexico

01:02:18.580 right now

01:02:19.520 that affect Delaware

01:02:21.220 right that you know

01:02:22.520 as far away

01:02:23.140 as we are from the border

01:02:23.980 they're actually

01:02:24.780 that actually affects

01:02:25.980 right where we're

01:02:26.860 Newark Delaware

01:02:27.760 that's because the

01:02:28.800 Florida governor

01:02:29.380 is about to send

01:02:30.120 a plane load

01:02:30.680 to Rehoboth Beach

01:02:31.520 so

01:02:31.800 I'm waiting for that

01:02:32.700 I'm waiting for it

01:02:34.260 okay

01:02:35.820 well thank you

01:02:36.740 good question

01:02:37.420 it's a good question

01:02:39.060 with just a sort of

01:02:40.420 complicated answer

01:02:42.580 of resignation

01:02:43.160 you know

01:02:43.580 it's sort of

01:02:44.020 the way that empires

01:02:44.700 are governed

01:02:45.240 hey

01:02:48.800 thank you for coming

01:02:49.680 out here

01:02:49.980 I know it's hard

01:02:50.560 for conservatives

01:02:51.220 to come to

01:02:51.880 more liberal

01:02:53.180 leaning areas

01:02:53.720 like a college

01:02:54.400 so thank you

01:02:55.320 I'd like to begin

01:02:56.840 with first

01:02:57.360 I agreed very much

01:02:58.280 with what you said

01:02:58.840 about the

01:02:59.520 overreach of corporations

01:03:01.300 like Google

01:03:01.880 and Amazon

01:03:02.360 who in many

01:03:03.420 instances

01:03:04.280 control our lives

01:03:05.160 more so than

01:03:05.980 our actual

01:03:06.980 elected government

01:03:07.860 and our elected officials

01:03:08.900 with that being said

01:03:10.580 why do so many

01:03:11.500 conservatives

01:03:12.120 tend to support

01:03:13.020 like laissez-faire

01:03:14.200 economic models

01:03:15.180 and deregulation

01:03:15.980 of the market

01:03:16.460 while deregulation

01:03:17.880 is really what

01:03:18.600 allows these companies

01:03:19.580 to control

01:03:20.140 every aspect

01:03:20.980 of our lives

01:03:21.700 more so

01:03:22.340 than the government

01:03:23.420 that we vote for

01:03:24.360 do you think

01:03:25.660 it is moral

01:03:26.260 and just

01:03:26.780 that private companies

01:03:28.040 have that ability

01:03:29.420 to control our lives

01:03:30.640 more so

01:03:31.560 than our elected government

01:03:32.660 surely not

01:03:33.680 and I think

01:03:33.960 it was a mistake

01:03:34.540 that conservatives

01:03:35.100 did it

01:03:35.620 I mean part of the reason

01:03:37.100 the conservatives

01:03:37.680 did it

01:03:38.020 we're working on it

01:03:38.700 by the way

01:03:39.120 well this is

01:03:40.260 something that

01:03:40.900 you know

01:03:41.520 gets into this

01:03:42.120 sort of argument

01:03:42.820 you know

01:03:43.580 we talked about

01:03:44.140 civil war earlier

01:03:44.820 but the other

01:03:45.720 civil proxy war

01:03:46.740 within conservatism

01:03:47.960 right now

01:03:48.440 is this sort of

01:03:49.580 rise of the new rights

01:03:51.480 versus the

01:03:52.580 there's the old right

01:03:53.840 there's the

01:03:54.900 neoconservatives

01:03:56.480 there's new liberals

01:03:57.320 there's all these

01:03:57.980 different little pockets

01:03:59.040 you know I've heard

01:03:59.720 obscure political monikers

01:04:01.300 are the right wing version

01:04:02.360 of gender pronouns

01:04:03.380 it's true

01:04:03.920 there's like 10,000

01:04:04.780 of them

01:04:05.120 I'm a paleo neo

01:04:07.400 paleo neo

01:04:08.400 yeah which is a little both

01:04:09.440 so there is a huge movement

01:04:11.820 right now

01:04:12.480 in within the right

01:04:14.020 and I think this is one

01:04:14.960 that's also doing well

01:04:15.840 politically

01:04:16.300 that is focusing

01:04:18.000 predominantly on

01:04:19.440 on two issues

01:04:20.520 those issues being

01:04:21.460 immigration and trade

01:04:22.840 and because those issues

01:04:25.540 are getting such a focus

01:04:26.780 that

01:04:27.880 and you see that

01:04:29.120 you saw this with

01:04:29.660 President Trump

01:04:30.200 you see it a lot

01:04:30.920 with Governor Ron DeSantis

01:04:32.500 and you're seeing it

01:04:33.120 throughout the country

01:04:33.800 that

01:04:34.780 conservatives

01:04:36.880 aren't scared anymore

01:04:38.400 of using the tools

01:04:39.720 of government

01:04:40.240 to secure our rights

01:04:41.260 you know

01:04:43.340 you want to do it justly

01:04:44.560 you don't want to do it

01:04:45.260 with capriciousness

01:04:46.700 or you know

01:04:47.480 in an arbitrary way

01:04:48.820 but you

01:04:49.260 except the drug dealers

01:04:50.140 that's right

01:04:50.840 except for them

01:04:51.380 then you just bomb them

01:04:52.120 but you want to do it

01:04:54.220 in a way that is just

01:04:55.580 and prudent

01:04:56.240 but yes

01:04:56.800 you ought to wield

01:04:58.080 the power that the

01:04:58.800 people give you

01:05:00.280 on those happy occasions

01:05:01.480 that they do give it to you

01:05:02.740 and so you know

01:05:04.120 why did deregulation happen

01:05:06.060 in part

01:05:06.980 it was a sort of triumph

01:05:08.060 of the liberal establishment

01:05:09.140 because even the right

01:05:09.980 adopted a lot of their views

01:05:11.300 but in part

01:05:12.040 it was also to spur growth

01:05:13.260 and economic growth

01:05:14.080 is a good thing

01:05:14.860 and much maligned

01:05:16.240 as the neoconservatives

01:05:17.340 are these days

01:05:18.100 the OG neoconservatives

01:05:20.000 were actually pretty

01:05:20.720 thoughtful people

01:05:21.420 and Irving Kristol

01:05:22.680 made this point

01:05:23.300 he said

01:05:23.640 the right in America

01:05:25.260 conservatism

01:05:26.000 is nationalism

01:05:27.160 religion

01:05:27.940 and economic growth

01:05:29.340 and I think most people

01:05:30.480 on the new right

01:05:31.140 would actually agree

01:05:32.240 with neocon Irving Kristol

01:05:34.320 on that

01:05:34.720 and economic growth

01:05:36.600 is very important there too

01:05:37.940 and so unfortunately

01:05:39.160 the desire

01:05:40.360 for ever higher GDP growth

01:05:42.300 basically mortgaged away

01:05:43.960 our political rights

01:05:44.860 and allowed a bunch of

01:05:45.620 woke oligarchs

01:05:46.800 in C-suites

01:05:47.900 to run roughshod

01:05:49.400 over our traditional

01:05:50.120 way of life

01:05:50.720 so I agree

01:05:51.380 that's a huge problem

01:05:52.220 and we need to take it back

01:05:53.260 well I agree with

01:05:56.100 what you just said

01:05:56.720 but it is freedom

01:05:57.780 to have economic freedom

01:06:00.460 and be required

01:06:01.440 to work some people

01:06:02.480 over 50 hours a week

01:06:04.180 and the freedom

01:06:04.960 to just be

01:06:06.340 an unwavering consumer

01:06:08.280 of products

01:06:09.000 like in laissez-faire capitalism

01:06:10.860 is that really

01:06:12.800 the freedom

01:06:13.440 that you want

01:06:14.440 conservatives to

01:06:15.760 well it's not an end

01:06:17.080 it's not an end

01:06:17.760 but it is a means

01:06:18.540 and I think this is

01:06:19.380 where people got

01:06:20.040 a little screwed up

01:06:21.500 with laissez-faire capitalism

01:06:23.000 and the sort of

01:06:23.860 worship of markets

01:06:24.740 markets are a very

01:06:25.920 efficient means

01:06:26.740 toward political flourishing

01:06:28.520 but they're not an end

01:06:29.840 so you don't want

01:06:31.340 to make markets

01:06:32.180 an end unto themselves

01:06:33.560 having material wealth

01:06:35.280 and prosperity

01:06:35.760 is a good thing

01:06:36.400 but it's not an end

01:06:37.280 if you make that

01:06:38.260 the end of your society

01:06:39.120 you just worship

01:06:39.780 the way I like to put it

01:06:40.980 is we are a people

01:06:42.140 with an economy

01:06:42.940 not the other way around

01:06:44.020 to sort of paraphrase

01:06:46.020 on Reagan's idea

01:06:47.740 about the government

01:06:48.320 that the economy

01:06:49.680 is a tool

01:06:50.260 it's a tool

01:06:51.120 that can help us

01:06:52.000 it's a tool

01:06:52.520 that can make

01:06:53.440 our lives better

01:06:54.220 but if our lives

01:06:55.680 get to the point

01:06:56.440 where all we're doing

01:06:57.340 is serving that economy

01:06:58.820 in the name

01:06:59.640 of meanless

01:07:00.580 and mindless consumption

01:07:04.240 like you're talking about

01:07:05.280 then you're just some

01:07:06.880 you're just some insect

01:07:07.940 at that point

01:07:08.780 and you're a worker drone

01:07:10.180 serving the queen

01:07:11.800 of the colony

01:07:12.480 and you know

01:07:13.420 she has the eggs

01:07:14.320 you eventually die

01:07:15.440 right

01:07:15.980 you never even get

01:07:16.560 to eat the honey

01:07:17.240 you're not having kids

01:07:18.460 of your own

01:07:18.860 she has the kids

01:07:19.740 and so we should

01:07:21.040 as conservatives

01:07:22.120 or the new right

01:07:23.240 or the new conservative movement

01:07:24.280 whatever you want to call it

01:07:25.100 be working towards

01:07:26.120 the kind of society

01:07:26.940 where we can get

01:07:28.000 back to the point

01:07:28.760 where you ought to be able

01:07:30.440 to have a family

01:07:31.520 and survive on a single income

01:07:33.900 where people can

01:07:34.920 raise their kids

01:07:36.000 as they see fit

01:07:37.360 all right

01:07:45.060 we'll have to chat after

01:07:45.860 I guess

01:07:46.200 they're withholding

01:07:46.800 the microphone

01:07:47.360 yeah I'm looking

01:07:48.480 I've got a clock back here

01:07:49.600 and I see a long line

01:07:50.420 so

01:07:50.680 hey what's going on guys

01:07:52.320 um

01:07:52.680 just want to say

01:07:53.480 I appreciate you

01:07:54.100 coming out here to campus

01:07:55.020 especially at UD

01:07:55.840 um

01:07:56.300 there was a lot of people

01:07:57.320 that did not want you guys

01:07:58.320 to come

01:07:58.660 but I'm a firm believer

01:08:00.300 I didn't want him to come either

01:08:01.400 just for

01:08:01.820 just to be

01:08:02.240 I was like

01:08:02.740 I was like what

01:08:03.520 I gotta share a stage with him

01:08:04.680 and I saw you come out

01:08:05.720 I was like

01:08:05.880 oh I've seen him before

01:08:06.660 yeah

01:08:07.260 so

01:08:07.980 okay

01:08:08.900 so my question is

01:08:10.260 um

01:08:10.520 since the conception of America

01:08:12.740 right

01:08:13.180 we had the idea that

01:08:14.280 we were being untreated

01:08:15.160 we were being treated unfairly

01:08:16.560 by Britain right

01:08:17.400 so we said

01:08:17.920 okay by any means necessary

01:08:19.640 let's go ahead and rebel

01:08:20.960 against the establishment

01:08:21.880 let's establish our own country

01:08:23.580 our new nation

01:08:24.420 in the way that we see fit

01:08:25.700 why

01:08:27.060 was it different

01:08:28.180 do you think

01:08:28.860 in uh

01:08:29.780 the 50s or 60s

01:08:30.680 let me not even

01:08:31.700 presume your opinion already

01:08:33.020 but what do you think

01:08:34.180 about figures like

01:08:35.100 Malcolm X

01:08:35.720 or the Black Panther

01:08:36.580 who basically said

01:08:37.840 the same thing

01:08:38.560 we're being untreated

01:08:39.400 treated unfairly

01:08:40.320 so by any means necessary

01:08:41.660 we have the right

01:08:42.440 to fight more

01:08:42.960 you did just put the words

01:08:44.160 of Malcolm X

01:08:44.900 into the mouth

01:08:45.500 of George Washington

01:08:46.300 which I don't think

01:08:47.060 he said that exact phrase

01:08:48.240 and they did not permit

01:08:49.620 any means necessary

01:08:50.980 they waged actually

01:08:51.960 a largely

01:08:52.660 civilized war

01:08:54.020 and preserved

01:08:54.800 the political traditions

01:08:55.800 from England

01:08:56.520 even after

01:08:57.280 overthrowing that government

01:08:59.420 in the new world

01:09:00.180 but

01:09:00.560 that aside

01:09:01.680 the point is very well taken

01:09:02.860 Jack do you want to take a crack at it

01:09:04.180 well I

01:09:05.180 I do think that

01:09:06.440 you

01:09:06.960 you raise an interesting question

01:09:09.100 and I think that

01:09:10.200 you know

01:09:10.600 for conservatives

01:09:11.300 it would be easier

01:09:12.200 to just say

01:09:12.800 oh those guys were crazy

01:09:14.020 and

01:09:14.880 they were completely insane

01:09:16.500 and

01:09:17.280 I

01:09:18.220 you know

01:09:18.600 obviously I don't condone

01:09:19.700 any of the violence

01:09:20.700 of

01:09:21.280 of the Black Panthers

01:09:22.260 but

01:09:23.160 when

01:09:23.500 what I do see though

01:09:24.720 is

01:09:25.140 I believe what you're saying

01:09:26.220 is that

01:09:26.660 this was

01:09:27.020 these were groups

01:09:27.860 and

01:09:28.120 in this case

01:09:29.660 Malcolm X

01:09:30.640 who was trying to

01:09:31.560 and Malcolm X

01:09:32.480 by the way

01:09:32.880 who left

01:09:33.660 the Nation of Islam

01:09:34.460 at one point

01:09:35.120 in order to be able to

01:09:36.260 because he thought

01:09:36.820 it was becoming

01:09:37.300 too radical

01:09:38.000 and that he wanted

01:09:39.100 to find a better life

01:09:40.280 for his people

01:09:41.100 and

01:09:41.780 they were the ones

01:09:42.640 who later had him killed

01:09:43.500 in fact

01:09:43.800 Elijah Muhammad

01:09:44.500 later on

01:09:45.580 just kind of joked about

01:09:46.740 basically ordering

01:09:48.160 the assassination

01:09:48.840 of Malcolm X

01:09:49.880 and so

01:09:50.820 you know

01:09:51.320 Jack Posobiec

01:09:52.600 goes to

01:09:53.300 University of Delaware

01:09:54.320 and you know

01:09:55.320 supports Malcolm X

01:09:56.700 is going to be the headline here

01:09:57.600 but

01:09:57.860 but when

01:09:58.660 when you look at this though

01:09:59.700 I

01:09:59.980 I think when I

01:10:00.960 when I read that story

01:10:02.080 it showed me that

01:10:03.820 even

01:10:04.420 maybe even

01:10:05.180 to an extent

01:10:05.900 and this is just my analysis

01:10:07.200 but

01:10:07.600 maybe even he realized

01:10:10.460 that again

01:10:10.900 it shouldn't just be

01:10:11.800 any means necessary

01:10:13.120 you do have to work with

01:10:14.360 to find

01:10:14.980 the practicalities

01:10:16.420 in the system

01:10:17.420 because there's always

01:10:18.440 going to be trade-offs

01:10:19.160 and that's what

01:10:19.600 Michael was just saying

01:10:20.400 in terms of foreign policy

01:10:21.400 there's always going to be trade-offs

01:10:22.620 but maybe

01:10:23.560 in by making

01:10:24.580 some of those trade-offs

01:10:25.500 rather than being

01:10:26.260 completely iconoclast

01:10:27.760 you can actually find

01:10:29.240 a better

01:10:29.720 solution

01:10:30.600 and a better result

01:10:31.720 than simply saying

01:10:33.260 you know

01:10:33.680 we've got to go

01:10:34.680 full Ted Kaczynski

01:10:35.680 on whatever

01:10:36.300 we think the problem is

01:10:37.500 it's a great point

01:10:39.580 and there is a strange

01:10:40.620 coincidence here

01:10:41.320 which is

01:10:41.740 there was a

01:10:42.560 someone joked

01:10:43.540 on Twitter

01:10:44.260 the other day

01:10:45.100 that there was going

01:10:46.620 to be a new biopic

01:10:47.600 of Malcolm X

01:10:48.800 produced by Matt Walsh

01:10:50.880 starring me

01:10:51.820 as Malcolm X

01:10:52.860 and I thought

01:10:53.880 this was sort of funny

01:10:54.680 well as you said

01:10:55.280 the Italians are

01:10:56.060 the Italians are racially ambiguous

01:10:57.320 and so this started

01:10:59.300 to go viral

01:11:00.040 and it was picked up

01:11:01.440 in entertainment blogs

01:11:02.500 and a lot of prominent

01:11:03.540 leftists

01:11:04.280 really took this seriously

01:11:06.000 so you know

01:11:06.900 I don't want to talk

01:11:07.540 myself out of a job

01:11:08.460 here by disparaging

01:11:09.440 Brother Malcolm

01:11:10.180 but

01:11:10.900 but you know

01:11:12.640 what you're saying

01:11:14.160 is how is the

01:11:15.280 revolutionary action

01:11:17.220 against a regime

01:11:18.520 different in the 1960s

01:11:20.500 than it was

01:11:21.000 in the 1770s

01:11:22.340 and I would say

01:11:23.120 it may not be different

01:11:25.640 in principle

01:11:26.560 though

01:11:27.440 there are some

01:11:28.380 distinctions to be had

01:11:29.160 but there is the

01:11:30.360 it's not just about procedure

01:11:31.580 it's about substance

01:11:32.420 as well

01:11:32.840 so then the question is

01:11:33.600 what sort of regime

01:11:34.800 is being overthrown

01:11:35.980 and with what to replace it

01:11:37.620 and I think

01:11:38.100 to broaden it out

01:11:39.120 from Malcolm X

01:11:39.860 and the black power movement

01:11:41.800 even to just the broader

01:11:42.840 new left

01:11:43.540 that was

01:11:44.200 you know

01:11:44.620 the weather underground

01:11:45.300 and all those sorts of characters

01:11:46.440 I just think that

01:11:47.480 the society that they were

01:11:48.960 trying to affect

01:11:49.740 was overtly communist

01:11:51.800 in many cases

01:11:52.780 the society was

01:11:54.020 extremely radical

01:11:55.700 was grounded in violence

01:11:57.600 and a kind of

01:11:58.200 persistent violence

01:11:59.080 and a continual

01:12:00.100 perpetual revolution

01:12:01.120 that I think

01:12:02.000 is just not preferable

01:12:03.840 to the regime

01:12:04.580 that was already in place

01:12:05.640 where improvements

01:12:06.520 could be made

01:12:07.220 and in some cases

01:12:08.280 have been made

01:12:08.900 so I think you have to look

01:12:09.960 at the specifics of it as well

01:12:11.280 it's not just

01:12:12.260 do we want to have revolution now

01:12:14.100 the question is

01:12:14.620 what are we going to do

01:12:16.240 after the revolution

01:12:17.080 some revolutions

01:12:18.200 can be perfectly fine

01:12:19.580 like the American revolution

01:12:21.400 some revolutions

01:12:22.380 turn to the terror

01:12:23.260 like the French revolution

01:12:24.380 and I don't trust

01:12:25.540 the new left

01:12:26.160 in the 1960s

01:12:27.220 to give us

01:12:27.940 the nice version of that

01:12:29.100 I expect the guillotine

01:12:30.320 from them

01:12:30.940 because they brought

01:12:31.820 bombs out anyway

01:12:32.620 Charlie had a question

01:12:33.640 about this recently

01:12:34.420 at an event

01:12:35.080 and to kind of

01:12:37.440 you know

01:12:37.820 reiterate what Charlie

01:12:38.680 would probably say

01:12:39.700 if he were here

01:12:40.220 because he said it recently

01:12:41.160 he pointed out

01:12:42.340 that the United States

01:12:43.540 did not

01:12:43.940 the founding fathers

01:12:44.820 didn't declare war

01:12:45.960 on Britain

01:12:47.000 they declared independence

01:12:48.460 right

01:12:49.160 so they were duly elected

01:12:50.540 representatives

01:12:51.120 of the colonies

01:12:51.940 they declared themselves states

01:12:53.420 they declared independence

01:12:54.880 it wasn't an act of violence

01:12:56.840 it wasn't an act of aggression

01:12:58.040 there weren't

01:12:58.980 terror strikes

01:13:00.180 on

01:13:00.920 British compounds

01:13:02.440 or anything like this

01:13:03.540 or military facilities

01:13:04.640 in any way

01:13:05.260 it was the British

01:13:06.300 that eventually

01:13:07.380 went to

01:13:08.440 Lexington and Concord

01:13:09.620 they went to

01:13:10.160 et cetera et cetera

01:13:11.120 that led to all of this

01:13:12.700 it wasn't the Americans

01:13:13.680 going around

01:13:14.460 and doing that

01:13:15.440 in the first instance

01:13:16.200 there was the Boston Massacre

01:13:18.280 we did start throwing

01:13:19.060 the rocks first

01:13:19.700 but I agree

01:13:20.320 it was just throwing rocks

01:13:21.260 it wasn't a couple rocks

01:13:22.460 that was a few rocks

01:13:23.320 but George Washington

01:13:24.080 didn't throw those rocks

01:13:25.060 you don't have

01:13:25.420 fingerprint evidence of that

01:13:26.640 good question

01:13:28.820 great question

01:13:29.320 it is a good question

01:13:30.740 seriously

01:13:31.040 I am terribly sorry

01:13:32.980 to provoke more Italian

01:13:34.320 on Italian violence

01:13:35.260 I know you and Fauci

01:13:36.180 already have beef

01:13:36.780 oh yeah

01:13:37.660 I'm terribly sorry

01:13:38.360 to provoke any more Italian

01:13:39.520 on Italian violence

01:13:40.440 I know you and Fauci

01:13:41.360 already had beef

01:13:41.900 but briefly

01:13:42.900 you two touched on

01:13:44.120 the Holy See

01:13:45.040 and you talked about

01:13:45.760 how Pope Francis

01:13:47.360 doesn't exactly agree

01:13:49.260 with you

01:13:49.760 let's say

01:13:50.380 on many issues

01:13:51.360 I've heard him

01:13:52.420 described as

01:13:52.800 the socialist Pope

01:13:53.940 how do you reconcile

01:13:55.100 being a Catholic

01:13:56.420 but having your own

01:13:57.500 head of faith

01:13:58.540 essentially being

01:13:59.160 ideologically opposed

01:14:00.280 to you

01:14:00.700 how does that work

01:14:01.700 listen I'm not

01:14:02.860 terribly worried about it

01:14:04.380 I think the Lord

01:14:05.360 sometimes sends us

01:14:07.080 popes who say

01:14:08.260 interesting things

01:14:09.020 to remind us

01:14:09.660 that the Pope

01:14:10.080 is fallible

01:14:10.680 except when he is

01:14:11.540 infallible

01:14:12.220 and the Pope

01:14:13.380 by the way

01:14:13.960 you know

01:14:14.880 the way he's

01:14:16.300 covered in the media

01:14:16.980 is not always

01:14:17.680 reflective of the

01:14:18.540 things he actually

01:14:19.200 believes

01:14:19.600 I do remember

01:14:20.640 that when he was

01:14:21.080 Cardinal of Buenos Aires

01:14:22.240 Pope Francis

01:14:24.220 then Cardinal Bergoglio

01:14:25.640 said that

01:14:26.860 gay marriage

01:14:28.040 same sex marriage

01:14:29.320 is no mere

01:14:30.280 political lobby

01:14:31.240 but rather a machination

01:14:32.840 of the father of lies

01:14:33.940 that seeks to deceive

01:14:34.840 and confuse

01:14:35.360 the children of God

01:14:36.440 so pretty based

01:14:38.000 as far as I'm concerned

01:14:39.140 and you know

01:14:40.460 you see these things

01:14:41.100 he referred

01:14:42.120 Pope Francis

01:14:44.900 referred to abortion

01:14:46.320 he likened it

01:14:47.380 to hiring an assassin

01:14:48.520 to kill somebody

01:14:49.760 so you know

01:14:50.800 he has said things

01:14:51.820 that raise eyebrows

01:14:52.840 and that raise dubia

01:14:53.980 and that

01:14:54.800 some have said

01:14:55.780 Papa Francesco

01:14:56.660 what are you talking about

01:14:57.720 and then often

01:14:58.740 the Vatican

01:14:59.160 will sort of

01:14:59.580 walk back

01:15:00.140 some of those comments

01:15:01.000 but I don't stay up

01:15:02.180 too late at night

01:15:02.780 because there is

01:15:03.500 the magisterium

01:15:04.220 of the church

01:15:04.660 I fully 100%

01:15:06.220 accept the magisterium

01:15:07.120 of the church

01:15:07.560 and if the Pope

01:15:08.440 has a sort of

01:15:09.160 stray opinion

01:15:09.920 that he's musing about

01:15:10.920 on an airplane

01:15:11.520 that doesn't really

01:15:12.560 affect my life

01:15:13.240 to answer the broader

01:15:14.040 question though

01:15:14.820 that you know

01:15:16.020 and Charlie and I

01:15:16.580 get into this sometimes

01:15:17.640 Evangelical Charlie

01:15:20.460 and I

01:15:20.820 when we're on

01:15:21.500 on the show together

01:15:22.380 that I say

01:15:23.700 look you know

01:15:24.560 you can disagree

01:15:25.580 with this Pope

01:15:26.300 you can disagree

01:15:26.680 with that Pope

01:15:27.540 when they're talking

01:15:28.480 about political matters

01:15:29.740 because when

01:15:31.120 and to Michael's

01:15:32.180 point about infallible

01:15:33.580 when you're not

01:15:34.020 not infallible

01:15:35.520 right

01:15:35.740 fallible

01:15:36.080 when you're not infallible

01:15:36.660 it's this idea

01:15:37.920 that when he's speaking

01:15:38.820 ex cathedra

01:15:39.920 so ex cathedra

01:15:40.800 in the seat of St. Peter

01:15:41.920 on behalf of the entire church

01:15:43.680 that's a very serious

01:15:45.500 written out

01:15:46.840 it's gone over

01:15:48.040 with the magisterium

01:15:50.040 at length

01:15:51.020 before any of those

01:15:52.520 papal edicts

01:15:53.280 or papal polls

01:15:53.820 are issued

01:15:54.600 those encyclicals

01:15:55.440 and so

01:15:56.200 when he's making comments

01:15:57.260 in an interview

01:15:57.960 or something

01:15:58.480 that might just be

01:15:59.320 his personal opinion

01:16:00.120 on something

01:16:00.660 and that might not be

01:16:01.440 that necessarily

01:16:02.120 something that I

01:16:03.100 have to follow

01:16:03.860 as you know

01:16:04.720 as the dirty

01:16:05.360 papists that I am

01:16:06.580 but that being said

01:16:08.180 you know

01:16:08.840 to the broader

01:16:09.820 question of

01:16:10.700 you know

01:16:11.000 I hear this

01:16:11.500 you know

01:16:11.700 do you support

01:16:12.460 how can you support

01:16:13.780 this pope

01:16:14.200 etc

01:16:14.500 and I'll say

01:16:15.280 well look

01:16:15.760 you know

01:16:16.100 as a catholic

01:16:17.280 we've had a lot

01:16:18.360 of popes

01:16:18.880 the same way

01:16:19.580 the United States

01:16:20.200 has had a lot

01:16:20.720 of presidents

01:16:21.220 but you don't

01:16:22.600 you know

01:16:22.980 tear up your passport

01:16:24.160 and tear up your flag

01:16:25.280 because you just have

01:16:25.840 a disagreement

01:16:26.280 with the president

01:16:26.880 the question

01:16:29.340 in the gospel

01:16:30.000 the question

01:16:31.220 raised in the gospel

01:16:31.940 is you know

01:16:32.960 after Christ

01:16:33.460 has the hard sayings

01:16:34.880 and he describes

01:16:35.860 his flesh

01:16:37.240 being true food

01:16:38.120 and his blood

01:16:38.660 being too drink

01:16:39.400 and many people

01:16:40.320 go away

01:16:40.800 because this is

01:16:41.300 a hard saying

01:16:42.080 he says to his apostles

01:16:43.440 will you leave me too

01:16:44.540 and the apostles say

01:16:46.020 to whom shall we go

01:16:47.280 to whom shall we go

01:16:48.680 you know

01:16:49.140 you're the way

01:16:50.440 and the truth

01:16:50.740 and the life

01:16:51.160 and so that's

01:16:52.060 that's my opinion too

01:16:52.880 to whom shall I go

01:16:54.480 gentlemen

01:17:01.220 thank you so much

01:17:02.000 for being here

01:17:02.780 Mr. Mills

01:17:03.580 I just want to say

01:17:04.260 I love your podcast

01:17:05.240 thank you so much

01:17:06.260 I appreciate it

01:17:06.820 you're a man of

01:17:07.380 excellent taste

01:17:08.040 I can tell

01:17:08.600 thank you

01:17:09.520 hopefully we can get

01:17:10.860 a shout out

01:17:11.360 next episode

01:17:12.180 wink wink

01:17:13.040 what's your name

01:17:14.440 Taman Hamlet

01:17:15.580 University of Delaware

01:17:16.580 say the name again

01:17:17.820 I can't

01:17:18.140 Taman Hamlet

01:17:19.280 Taman

01:17:19.760 it's a great name

01:17:21.380 I'll have to remember

01:17:22.600 that for the show tomorrow

01:17:23.320 I just wanted to ask

01:17:24.860 really briefly

01:17:25.440 about the constitution

01:17:26.520 it seems today

01:17:27.820 that being pro-constitution

01:17:29.500 is synonymous

01:17:30.180 with being conservative

01:17:31.600 I mean you ask

01:17:33.040 young people today

01:17:33.760 they think it should be

01:17:34.540 changed

01:17:35.060 rewritten

01:17:35.560 or most people

01:17:36.400 don't even read

01:17:36.940 the constitution

01:17:37.680 well it's easy

01:17:38.740 right

01:17:39.520 it's the

01:17:40.780 you know

01:17:41.940 it's basically like

01:17:43.180 water following

01:17:43.800 the path of least resistance

01:17:44.960 this idea that

01:17:46.200 because to your point

01:17:47.000 about nobody reading

01:17:47.740 books anymore

01:17:48.420 I guess with Ben's point

01:17:49.380 that

01:17:50.140 you know

01:17:51.400 how many people

01:17:52.240 actually know

01:17:53.340 what the constitution

01:17:54.080 says

01:17:54.880 versus whatever

01:17:55.860 the top google result

01:17:56.980 for the constitution

01:17:57.700 is

01:17:58.120 which is always

01:17:58.680 predominantly

01:17:59.420 usually when you

01:18:00.400 look this up

01:18:00.880 it's always some

01:18:01.820 like university

01:18:03.500 professor has

01:18:04.520 written

01:18:04.940 their version

01:18:06.440 of what the

01:18:07.080 they believe

01:18:07.940 the constitution

01:18:08.720 says

01:18:09.080 for example

01:18:09.400 the second amendment

01:18:10.120 right

01:18:10.500 shall not be

01:18:11.440 infringed

01:18:11.920 it's pretty

01:18:12.640 explicit

01:18:13.240 right

01:18:13.680 but you'll find

01:18:14.520 professors

01:18:14.940 and lawyers

01:18:15.680 and entire

01:18:16.420 industry

01:18:16.940 will go in

01:18:17.880 and try to

01:18:18.640 interpret those

01:18:19.600 those words

01:18:20.640 when it's

01:18:21.540 it's right there

01:18:22.280 in the text

01:18:22.860 right

01:18:23.060 shall not be

01:18:23.560 infringed

01:18:24.320 what did they

01:18:24.940 mean by this

01:18:25.840 you know

01:18:26.260 you know

01:18:27.040 and you know

01:18:28.400 just piles

01:18:29.860 and mountains

01:18:30.400 of cope

01:18:30.860 after that

01:18:31.380 but the idea

01:18:32.200 basically is

01:18:33.080 that if they

01:18:34.400 can get away

01:18:34.940 with it

01:18:35.280 they will

01:18:35.740 because again

01:18:36.320 this goes back

01:18:37.540 to I think

01:18:38.260 what we started

01:18:38.720 at the beginning

01:18:39.600 of saying

01:18:40.060 this constitution

01:18:40.960 was written

01:18:41.600 for a society

01:18:42.680 with one

01:18:43.400 moral core

01:18:44.320 and if you

01:18:46.060 take away

01:18:46.720 that moral core

01:18:47.740 and attempt

01:18:48.440 to replace it

01:18:49.380 with a new

01:18:50.180 moral core

01:18:51.160 then they will

01:18:52.200 find ways

01:18:52.840 to apply

01:18:53.460 those words

01:18:54.220 of the very

01:18:54.680 same constitution

01:18:55.500 the very same

01:18:56.080 declaration

01:18:56.620 the words

01:18:57.720 of Jefferson's

01:18:58.760 you know

01:18:59.040 letters

01:18:59.540 his private

01:19:00.060 letters

01:19:00.380 like this

01:19:00.760 where we get

01:19:01.100 separation of

01:19:01.660 church and state

01:19:02.160 obviously it's

01:19:02.800 from private

01:19:03.500 correspondence

01:19:04.140 had nothing

01:19:05.240 to do with

01:19:05.680 his public

01:19:06.060 speeches

01:19:06.500 or edicts

01:19:07.120 etc

01:19:07.340 and certainly

01:19:08.200 not how he

01:19:08.600 governed

01:19:08.920 the state

01:19:09.480 of Virginia

01:19:09.820 but and

01:19:10.900 and the

01:19:11.560 the state

01:19:12.600 constitution

01:19:12.980 that he wrote

01:19:13.300 there

01:19:13.540 but it's

01:19:14.620 basically

01:19:15.020 this idea

01:19:15.600 that if

01:19:16.480 you take

01:19:17.000 away

01:19:17.320 our moral

01:19:18.000 core

01:19:18.380 the moral

01:19:19.080 core

01:19:19.340 that we

01:19:19.660 had at

01:19:20.460 the conception

01:19:22.200 of our

01:19:22.740 country

01:19:23.160 right

01:19:23.880 then you

01:19:25.240 can make

01:19:25.640 the constitution

01:19:26.300 mean whatever

01:19:26.980 you want

01:19:27.480 this is why

01:19:28.180 and Beto O'Rourke

01:19:28.740 recently came out

01:19:29.460 and said he

01:19:29.900 believes in a

01:19:30.560 living constitution

01:19:31.560 that is what

01:19:32.380 they believe

01:19:32.880 it's a Darwinian

01:19:33.900 belief

01:19:34.280 it is a belief

01:19:35.320 in natural

01:19:35.740 selection

01:19:36.180 and it is

01:19:36.760 completely

01:19:37.220 antithetical

01:19:38.100 to how this

01:19:39.000 country was set

01:19:39.720 up

01:19:39.900 you know

01:19:40.080 there's a

01:19:40.380 reason

01:19:40.760 they say

01:19:42.340 there's a

01:19:42.620 reason that

01:19:43.160 the gospels

01:19:43.860 don't

01:19:44.680 it doesn't

01:19:45.600 address

01:19:45.840 atheism

01:19:46.320 right

01:19:46.720 you know

01:19:46.940 Christ never

01:19:47.360 addresses

01:19:47.700 atheism

01:19:48.220 you know

01:19:48.460 why

01:19:48.720 because

01:19:49.580 atheists

01:19:49.900 didn't exist

01:19:50.540 back then

01:19:51.140 right

01:19:51.340 you either

01:19:51.740 worshipped

01:19:52.980 I don't know

01:19:53.680 that they

01:19:53.960 exist now

01:19:54.560 you know

01:19:54.900 yeah right

01:19:55.340 right

01:19:55.540 right

01:19:55.560 true

01:19:56.240 um

01:19:57.080 yeah

01:19:57.820 atheists and

01:19:58.460 foxholes

01:19:58.800 but it's

01:19:59.720 it's this idea

01:20:00.260 that everyone

01:20:00.840 believed in some

01:20:01.700 god back then

01:20:02.520 whether it was

01:20:02.960 Yahweh or

01:20:03.700 whether whether

01:20:04.400 they're worshipping

01:20:04.900 Baal or

01:20:05.620 Moloch

01:20:06.100 there's a lot

01:20:06.440 of those

01:20:06.640 worshippers

01:20:07.040 still today

01:20:07.480 um

01:20:08.360 but

01:20:09.260 by the same

01:20:10.420 token

01:20:10.820 the constitution

01:20:11.860 doesn't

01:20:12.440 necessarily

01:20:13.100 address

01:20:13.680 morality

01:20:14.220 because at

01:20:15.100 the time

01:20:15.400 they didn't

01:20:15.720 have to

01:20:16.140 right

01:20:16.940 and that's

01:20:17.400 the big

01:20:17.640 difference

01:20:17.940 between

01:20:18.200 then and

01:20:18.460 now

01:20:18.640 you see it

01:20:19.900 in the

01:20:20.100 writings of

01:20:20.580 John Adams

01:20:21.140 and of

01:20:22.100 John Jay

01:20:22.680 in particular

01:20:23.240 when people

01:20:24.360 say well

01:20:24.700 what did

01:20:25.060 the constitution

01:20:25.540 mean

01:20:25.840 we know

01:20:26.500 there

01:20:26.720 we have

01:20:27.200 the federalist

01:20:28.260 you know

01:20:28.560 we have

01:20:28.860 a very

01:20:29.400 lengthy

01:20:29.960 explanation

01:20:30.400 of what

01:20:30.840 the constitution

01:20:31.320 means

01:20:31.820 and when

01:20:32.460 you see

01:20:33.000 in especially

01:20:34.160 in the writings

01:20:34.680 of Jay

01:20:35.180 and Adams

01:20:35.920 they declare

01:20:37.320 that the

01:20:37.800 country is a

01:20:38.300 Christian nation

01:20:38.920 and it's

01:20:39.180 founded on

01:20:39.500 Christian

01:20:39.780 principles

01:20:40.160 and it's

01:20:40.400 the only

01:20:40.600 thing

01:20:40.880 that united

01:20:41.540 the people

01:20:42.100 when they

01:20:42.420 when they

01:20:42.820 built the

01:20:43.140 country

01:20:43.360 and that's

01:20:43.640 what it's

01:20:43.880 for

01:20:44.140 so we

01:20:45.100 can know

01:20:45.460 that

01:20:45.620 the left

01:20:45.920 obviously

01:20:46.200 doesn't like

01:20:46.720 that

01:20:46.940 they don't

01:20:47.420 like

01:20:47.580 Christianity

01:20:48.100 they don't

01:20:48.740 like the

01:20:49.020 country

01:20:49.360 they don't

01:20:49.880 like the

01:20:50.140 way the

01:20:50.340 whole thing

01:20:50.660 is set

01:20:50.940 up

01:20:51.100 and they

01:20:51.420 want to

01:20:51.840 attack

01:20:52.080 it

01:20:52.200 and they

01:20:52.340 say it's

01:20:52.580 an evil

01:20:53.200 country

01:20:53.560 from the

01:20:53.880 very beginning

01:20:54.380 and we

01:20:54.640 need to

01:20:54.880 overthrow

01:20:55.220 it

01:20:55.520 and so

01:20:56.340 they

01:20:56.820 obviously

01:20:57.440 have a

01:20:57.660 hostile

01:20:57.960 relationship

01:20:58.580 to the

01:20:58.900 constitution

01:20:59.340 it's

01:21:00.100 helpful

01:21:00.440 to them

01:21:00.820 when they

01:21:01.120 can

01:21:01.440 to just

01:21:02.180 go in

01:21:03.020 and rewrite

01:21:03.540 it

01:21:03.700 as Jack

01:21:04.140 was

01:21:04.300 pointing

01:21:04.560 out

01:21:04.840 it's

01:21:05.160 easier

01:21:05.520 when they

01:21:06.020 can

01:21:06.260 to

01:21:06.640 infiltrate

01:21:07.560 institutions

01:21:08.240 and just

01:21:09.000 wear them

01:21:09.620 like a

01:21:10.440 husk

01:21:11.280 you know

01:21:11.540 sort of

01:21:11.780 a rotted

01:21:12.120 out husk

01:21:12.660 and they

01:21:12.880 animate it

01:21:13.340 like Night

01:21:13.700 of the

01:21:13.900 Living

01:21:14.080 Dead

01:21:14.360 but when

01:21:14.860 they can't

01:21:15.260 do that

01:21:15.560 they'll

01:21:15.760 just

01:21:15.960 assail it

01:21:16.420 that guy

01:21:16.620 in Men

01:21:16.880 in Black

01:21:17.240 you remember

01:21:17.540 the beginning

01:21:18.000 when he was

01:21:18.380 stretching his

01:21:19.100 head back

01:21:19.500 they're skin

01:21:19.900 suits

01:21:20.200 that's right

01:21:20.820 it's a skin

01:21:21.240 suit

01:21:21.540 but when they

01:21:22.380 can't do that

01:21:22.920 they'll attack

01:21:23.620 it and desecrate

01:21:24.500 it and mock

01:21:25.160 it which they

01:21:25.600 do regularly

01:21:26.660 in the New York

01:21:27.200 Times

01:21:27.440 and they're just

01:21:27.800 going to alternate

01:21:28.360 on that

01:21:28.860 but it's an

01:21:29.800 end seeking

01:21:30.580 a justification

01:21:31.240 the end is

01:21:32.300 we hate the

01:21:32.740 country and want

01:21:33.340 to remake it

01:21:33.960 and the

01:21:34.480 justification

01:21:34.920 they'll figure

01:21:35.740 that out

01:21:36.080 along the

01:21:36.400 way

01:21:36.660 which is

01:21:37.140 also why

01:21:37.520 they have

01:21:37.720 to constantly

01:21:38.160 redefine

01:21:38.580 words

01:21:38.900 constantly

01:21:39.540 thank you

01:21:42.200 Taman by

01:21:44.460 the way

01:21:44.780 Taman Hamlin

01:21:45.680 Taman

01:21:46.780 gentlemen

01:21:48.980 thanks for

01:21:49.460 coming here

01:21:50.320 I'm a big

01:21:51.300 history freak

01:21:51.900 I read

01:21:53.260 history

01:21:53.560 I watch

01:21:54.320 documentaries

01:21:55.360 on the

01:21:55.760 revolution

01:21:56.140 and something

01:21:57.840 was worth

01:21:58.660 fighting for

01:21:59.180 back then

01:21:59.660 and it

01:22:00.200 wasn't pretty

01:22:00.760 given the

01:22:03.280 situation now

01:22:04.140 where we're

01:22:05.260 going

01:22:05.580 there's

01:22:06.340 obviously

01:22:06.720 some

01:22:07.160 some

01:22:09.020 threats

01:22:09.860 to our

01:22:10.140 democracy

01:22:10.600 which one

01:22:11.420 would you

01:22:11.780 think is

01:22:12.320 hopefully this

01:22:13.080 question makes

01:22:13.720 sense but

01:22:14.020 which one

01:22:14.300 would you

01:22:14.680 think is

01:22:15.120 the biggest

01:22:15.840 threat

01:22:16.380 unelected

01:22:17.400 officials

01:22:17.900 or officials

01:22:19.560 or government

01:22:20.880 that don't

01:22:21.340 represent us

01:22:22.080 namely

01:22:23.580 rhinos

01:22:24.440 that you

01:22:25.160 think

01:22:25.660 will

01:22:26.480 represent

01:22:27.020 you

01:22:27.300 and then

01:22:27.700 they

01:22:27.980 you follow

01:22:29.260 the money

01:22:29.580 and they

01:22:30.060 they're following

01:22:30.760 the money

01:22:31.100 and they don't

01:22:31.620 represent you

01:22:32.200 it's just

01:22:33.540 cowardice

01:22:34.220 that's the

01:22:34.900 real fear

01:22:35.440 cowardice

01:22:36.060 and ignorance

01:22:36.680 I guess

01:22:37.040 are the

01:22:37.280 two things

01:22:37.780 because

01:22:38.480 you know

01:22:39.880 I think

01:22:40.140 the people

01:22:40.460 are broadly

01:22:40.980 with us

01:22:41.560 on a lot

01:22:41.940 of issues

01:22:42.380 but unfortunately

01:22:43.240 we don't

01:22:43.740 have much

01:22:44.400 of a

01:22:44.600 democracy

01:22:45.040 we were

01:22:45.720 never

01:22:45.920 intended

01:22:46.300 to have

01:22:46.620 a democracy

01:22:47.240 the word

01:22:48.920 democracy

01:22:49.320 does not

01:22:49.720 appear in

01:22:49.980 the constitution

01:22:50.480 doesn't

01:22:50.840 appear in

01:22:51.120 the declaration

01:22:51.620 it appears

01:22:52.400 a handful

01:22:52.780 of times

01:22:53.200 in the

01:22:53.420 federalist

01:22:53.900 only

01:22:54.500 negatively

01:22:55.020 by the

01:22:55.420 way

01:22:55.580 only

01:22:55.760 with

01:22:55.960 disapproval

01:22:56.660 so what

01:22:57.600 we were

01:22:57.860 given

01:22:58.080 was a

01:22:58.460 nation

01:22:58.820 with a

01:22:59.540 mixed

01:22:59.900 sort of

01:23:00.320 regime

01:23:00.660 with a

01:23:01.000 strong

01:23:01.240 executive

01:23:01.700 and a

01:23:03.040 legislature

01:23:03.700 and an

01:23:04.820 aristocratic

01:23:05.400 sort of

01:23:06.160 representation

01:23:06.680 and obviously

01:23:07.180 a very

01:23:07.440 strong

01:23:07.780 democratic

01:23:08.500 element

01:23:08.920 as well

01:23:09.340 but they

01:23:09.740 warned us

01:23:10.220 actually

01:23:10.620 Publius

01:23:11.120 warned us

01:23:11.540 in the

01:23:11.800 federalist

01:23:12.420 that there

01:23:13.720 could come

01:23:14.120 a time

01:23:14.500 when it

01:23:14.840 seemed

01:23:15.120 as though

01:23:15.500 we were

01:23:16.060 expanding

01:23:16.700 the

01:23:16.920 democracy

01:23:17.480 but by

01:23:18.200 apparently

01:23:18.760 expanding

01:23:19.280 the

01:23:19.480 democracy

01:23:20.000 you were

01:23:20.560 really

01:23:20.780 just

01:23:21.000 creating

01:23:21.280 a facade

01:23:21.920 that was

01:23:22.740 masking

01:23:23.940 an

01:23:24.540 oligarchy

01:23:25.160 and so

01:23:25.560 I think

01:23:25.760 that's

01:23:25.960 what we

01:23:26.340 seem

01:23:26.540 to have

01:23:26.780 done

01:23:27.000 through

01:23:27.480 the

01:23:27.660 17th

01:23:28.080 amendment

01:23:28.320 through

01:23:28.520 the

01:23:28.640 direct

01:23:28.840 election

01:23:29.120 of

01:23:29.260 senators

01:23:29.600 through

01:23:30.000 the

01:23:30.140 constant

01:23:30.500 piffle

01:23:30.880 about

01:23:31.120 ever

01:23:31.400 more

01:23:31.640 direct

01:23:32.100 democratic

01:23:32.680 participation

01:23:33.240 I think

01:23:34.040 really

01:23:34.320 what the

01:23:34.680 libs

01:23:34.860 have done

01:23:35.180 is just

01:23:35.540 create

01:23:36.020 more and

01:23:36.380 more of

01:23:36.620 an

01:23:36.760 oligarchy

01:23:37.320 and it's

01:23:37.620 an oligarchy

01:23:38.160 that they

01:23:38.580 themselves

01:23:39.040 are running

01:23:39.920 right

01:23:40.200 the destruction

01:23:40.980 of the

01:23:41.340 electoral

01:23:41.660 college

01:23:42.160 right

01:23:42.680 and their

01:23:42.960 aim

01:23:43.180 they're

01:23:43.420 obviously

01:23:43.760 trying to

01:23:44.240 destroy

01:23:44.500 the

01:23:44.660 electoral

01:23:44.900 college

01:23:45.360 yeah

01:23:45.680 um

01:23:46.140 I

01:23:46.480 for me

01:23:46.980 though

01:23:47.120 I

01:23:47.320 think

01:23:47.760 the

01:23:48.040 there's

01:23:48.640 two

01:23:48.880 great

01:23:49.220 threats

01:23:49.480 here

01:23:49.640 number

01:23:49.960 one

01:23:50.300 the

01:23:51.340 greatest

01:23:51.960 threat

01:23:52.220 to

01:23:52.360 democracy

01:23:52.820 as it

01:23:53.760 stands

01:23:54.080 right

01:23:54.380 now

01:23:54.620 and when

01:23:54.940 I say

01:23:55.100 democracy

01:23:55.500 I mean

01:23:55.860 the

01:23:56.400 representative

01:23:56.880 power of

01:23:57.380 the people

01:23:57.720 to actually

01:23:58.160 have an

01:23:58.440 effect in

01:23:58.780 their

01:23:58.900 government

01:23:59.180 is

01:23:59.560 censorship

01:23:59.960 because

01:24:00.820 2016

01:24:01.540 scared

01:24:02.700 the hell

01:24:03.380 out of

01:24:03.760 the regime

01:24:04.220 when they

01:24:05.120 saw what

01:24:05.680 people could

01:24:06.240 do if

01:24:06.760 they could

01:24:07.060 share

01:24:07.540 true

01:24:08.220 information

01:24:08.760 if they

01:24:09.260 could

01:24:09.420 connect

01:24:09.860 if they

01:24:10.220 could

01:24:10.400 meet

01:24:10.740 in

01:24:10.960 rooms

01:24:11.280 like

01:24:11.480 we're

01:24:11.700 meeting

01:24:12.000 tonight

01:24:12.420 on a

01:24:13.140 college

01:24:13.500 campus

01:24:13.980 and have

01:24:14.560 discussions

01:24:15.120 like this

01:24:15.680 and meet

01:24:16.120 in person

01:24:16.780 the amount

01:24:17.120 of power

01:24:17.600 that that

01:24:17.960 has

01:24:18.220 and discuss

01:24:19.060 things

01:24:19.540 that they

01:24:20.080 don't want

01:24:20.620 being discussed

01:24:21.420 and commit

01:24:22.300 thought crime

01:24:22.960 after thought

01:24:23.500 crime

01:24:23.840 while we're

01:24:24.200 together

01:24:24.540 is terrifying

01:24:25.420 to them

01:24:25.900 is the

01:24:27.000 unelected

01:24:27.420 official

01:24:27.860 are the

01:24:28.480 unelected

01:24:28.820 officials

01:24:29.120 scared

01:24:29.560 scared

01:24:30.080 of that

01:24:30.340 oh yes

01:24:31.100 they're all

01:24:32.540 terrified

01:24:32.900 of it

01:24:33.200 every single

01:24:34.020 one of them

01:24:34.340 is terrified

01:24:34.720 of it

01:24:34.960 that's why

01:24:35.320 people like

01:24:36.920 Nini Yankovic

01:24:37.620 tried to set

01:24:38.160 up this

01:24:38.420 thing called

01:24:39.000 the

01:24:39.440 disinformation

01:24:39.960 governance

01:24:40.560 board

01:24:40.960 which I

01:24:42.040 completely

01:24:42.540 discovered

01:24:43.640 exposed

01:24:44.720 blew up

01:24:45.500 and got

01:24:45.940 her fired

01:24:46.600 in disgrace

01:24:47.460 from the

01:24:48.260 Department

01:24:48.560 of Homeland

01:24:48.960 Security

01:24:49.480 and by

01:24:53.140 the way

01:24:53.600 by the

01:24:54.020 way

01:24:54.420 for you

01:24:56.540 know

01:24:56.680 I assume

01:24:57.220 this is being

01:24:57.560 live stream

01:24:57.900 as a message

01:24:59.380 for Nina

01:24:59.820 or anybody

01:25:00.520 else out

01:25:01.100 there

01:25:01.300 I'm just

01:25:01.620 going to

01:25:01.800 say this

01:25:02.220 should you

01:25:03.040 try to

01:25:03.580 get any

01:25:04.220 one of

01:25:04.620 these

01:25:04.820 set up

01:25:05.200 anywhere

01:25:05.760 else in

01:25:06.300 the

01:25:06.400 government

01:25:06.680 I will

01:25:07.660 expose

01:25:07.980 you

01:25:08.300 and I

01:25:08.720 will get

01:25:09.080 you fired

01:25:09.740 just as

01:25:10.180 quickly

01:25:10.440 I will

01:25:11.000 find

01:25:11.340 you

01:25:11.600 I will

01:25:12.900 expose

01:25:13.340 you

01:25:13.640 thank you

01:25:17.140 for being

01:25:17.500 here

01:25:17.800 so you

01:25:18.500 spoke

01:25:18.740 earlier

01:25:19.140 about

01:25:19.360 moral

01:25:19.600 clarity

01:25:19.960 and how

01:25:20.280 people

01:25:20.560 on the

01:25:20.780 right

01:25:20.960 and people

01:25:21.280 on the

01:25:21.480 left

01:25:21.640 have

01:25:21.840 different

01:25:22.240 moral

01:25:22.520 clarities

01:25:23.080 how would

01:25:24.000 you convince

01:25:24.400 someone on

01:25:24.780 the left

01:25:25.180 with a

01:25:26.960 different

01:25:27.160 moral clarity

01:25:27.660 that yours

01:25:28.140 is correct

01:25:28.700 and if

01:25:29.600 you can't

01:25:30.440 how would

01:25:30.880 you

01:25:31.040 agree to

01:25:31.900 disagree

01:25:32.280 if you

01:25:33.080 can do

01:25:33.360 that

01:25:33.620 the moral

01:25:34.820 order is

01:25:35.420 not just

01:25:36.020 some

01:25:36.260 preference

01:25:36.680 of mine

01:25:37.140 I like

01:25:37.880 vanilla

01:25:38.180 and you

01:25:38.440 like

01:25:38.640 chocolate

01:25:39.040 the moral

01:25:39.740 order is

01:25:40.140 an objective

01:25:40.640 thing

01:25:41.100 and the

01:25:41.640 moral order

01:25:42.200 can be

01:25:42.800 perceived

01:25:43.360 and understood

01:25:44.520 through our

01:25:46.860 reason

01:25:47.460 and our

01:25:47.800 moral

01:25:48.080 conscience

01:25:48.600 and if

01:25:49.560 you say

01:25:50.000 that to

01:25:50.540 many

01:25:50.960 libs

01:25:51.580 they will

01:25:52.200 laugh in

01:25:52.660 your face

01:25:53.180 and they

01:25:53.860 probably won't

01:25:55.040 even admit

01:25:55.580 that there's

01:25:55.960 such a thing

01:25:56.460 they almost

01:25:57.820 certainly won't

01:25:58.240 admit there's

01:25:58.580 such a thing

01:25:58.880 as God

01:25:59.300 and they

01:25:59.780 probably won't

01:26:00.260 admit that

01:26:00.580 there's such

01:26:00.920 a thing

01:26:01.160 as objective

01:26:01.620 truth

01:26:02.000 and so

01:26:02.500 you're

01:26:02.660 going to

01:26:02.780 have to

01:26:03.000 get them

01:26:03.300 there

01:26:03.540 first

01:26:04.020 and it's

01:26:04.540 very easy

01:26:05.060 to convince

01:26:05.520 someone that

01:26:05.940 there is

01:26:06.320 objective

01:26:06.980 truth

01:26:07.340 which is

01:26:07.820 when they

01:26:08.680 say there's

01:26:09.040 no such

01:26:09.340 thing as

01:26:09.680 objective

01:26:10.140 truth

01:26:10.440 you will

01:26:10.960 ask them

01:26:11.360 well is

01:26:11.680 that

01:26:11.860 statement

01:26:12.180 objectively

01:26:12.680 true

01:26:13.080 and assuming

01:26:14.380 that they

01:26:15.000 stop sputtering

01:26:16.340 around after

01:26:16.920 a while

01:26:17.240 they'll have

01:26:17.840 to admit

01:26:18.200 that they

01:26:18.740 do

01:26:19.340 accede

01:26:20.600 to some

01:26:20.900 sort of

01:26:21.340 objective

01:26:22.100 truth

01:26:22.420 and so

01:26:22.920 then it

01:26:23.960 is helpful

01:26:24.660 to get

01:26:25.020 them to

01:26:25.280 believe in

01:26:25.640 God

01:26:26.000 which is

01:26:27.120 God's

01:26:27.760 existence

01:26:28.100 is self

01:26:28.800 evident

01:26:29.040 and can

01:26:29.840 be known

01:26:30.340 by the

01:26:31.200 light of

01:26:31.480 reason

01:26:31.760 from the

01:26:32.140 created

01:26:32.400 world

01:26:32.840 there are

01:26:34.440 many good

01:26:34.760 arguments

01:26:35.040 for the

01:26:35.360 existence

01:26:35.600 of God

01:26:35.980 there are

01:26:36.260 no good

01:26:36.600 arguments

01:26:37.000 against

01:26:37.320 God

01:26:37.660 but you

01:26:38.420 might have

01:26:38.720 to reason

01:26:39.560 them through

01:26:39.860 a little

01:26:40.080 bit

01:26:40.300 there as

01:26:41.080 well

01:26:41.280 I think

01:26:41.780 only once

01:26:42.560 you do

01:26:42.920 that

01:26:43.280 can you

01:26:44.480 point people

01:26:45.740 to the

01:26:46.500 realities

01:26:47.340 of morals

01:26:48.620 that they

01:26:49.140 already

01:26:49.640 perceive

01:26:50.160 it's an

01:26:50.460 amazing

01:26:50.880 thing

01:26:51.240 how people

01:26:51.880 know

01:26:52.260 things to

01:26:52.740 be true

01:26:53.120 and they

01:26:53.600 just won't

01:26:54.140 let themselves

01:26:54.680 admit it

01:26:55.240 we know

01:26:55.840 it's wrong

01:26:56.340 to commit

01:26:56.960 murder

01:26:57.300 we know

01:26:57.860 it's wrong

01:26:58.420 to eat

01:26:59.280 human beings

01:26:59.840 we know

01:27:00.080 cannibalism

01:27:00.600 is wrong

01:27:00.920 why is it

01:27:01.400 wrong

01:27:01.640 it just

01:27:02.040 is

01:27:02.400 we have

01:27:02.680 a kind

01:27:02.900 of wisdom

01:27:03.560 of

01:27:03.740 he was

01:27:04.140 watching

01:27:04.440 Jeffrey

01:27:04.740 Dahmer

01:27:05.060 all last

01:27:05.440 week

01:27:05.660 he's been

01:27:06.660 sending me

01:27:07.140 these texts

01:27:08.060 I'm telling you

01:27:08.440 these are

01:27:09.440 things

01:27:09.840 Leon Kass

01:27:10.820 the bioethicist

01:27:11.920 used a great

01:27:12.420 phrase here

01:27:12.860 the wisdom

01:27:13.660 of repugnance

01:27:14.480 I guess I could

01:27:15.960 come up with

01:27:16.320 some argument

01:27:16.820 as to why

01:27:17.300 cannibalism

01:27:17.860 is wrong

01:27:18.280 but I don't

01:27:18.980 really need to

01:27:19.620 we just kind

01:27:20.240 of know

01:27:20.680 that it is

01:27:21.400 and this is

01:27:21.740 true on so

01:27:22.140 many moral

01:27:22.640 issues

01:27:22.980 because we

01:27:23.820 are endowed

01:27:24.320 by our creator

01:27:24.940 with a moral

01:27:25.380 conscience

01:27:25.760 and with

01:27:26.300 reason

01:27:26.600 and so

01:27:26.980 I think

01:27:27.820 get people

01:27:28.620 first

01:27:29.060 you just

01:27:29.520 say

01:27:29.720 hey buddy

01:27:30.360 we're not

01:27:31.040 on a debate

01:27:31.540 stage

01:27:31.980 okay

01:27:32.220 it's just

01:27:32.800 you and me

01:27:33.220 pal

01:27:33.520 just you and

01:27:34.260 me here

01:27:34.560 over stogies

01:27:35.300 you're going

01:27:36.280 to admit

01:27:36.580 to me

01:27:38.440 having sex

01:27:40.700 with 500

01:27:41.300 women at a

01:27:41.940 time

01:27:42.260 and then

01:27:42.660 killing a bunch

01:27:43.620 of orphan

01:27:44.180 children

01:27:44.660 and then

01:27:45.240 I don't

01:27:46.100 know

01:27:46.340 going out

01:27:46.800 and doing

01:27:47.000 a bunch

01:27:47.260 of heroin

01:27:47.680 that's probably

01:27:48.900 not good

01:27:49.540 right

01:27:49.900 and they'd say

01:27:50.700 well I don't

01:27:51.660 want to admit

01:27:52.160 that there's

01:27:52.460 a moral

01:27:52.680 reality

01:27:53.080 but I guess

01:27:53.700 if it's just

01:27:54.080 us

01:27:54.240 okay I'll

01:27:55.060 admit that

01:27:55.420 that's true

01:27:55.860 and once

01:27:56.700 we all agree

01:27:57.980 on that

01:27:58.340 in the ancient

01:27:58.700 world

01:27:59.140 that was

01:28:00.520 accepted

01:28:00.920 morality

01:28:01.440 for many

01:28:02.480 throughout the

01:28:03.280 Bronze Age

01:28:03.740 throughout the

01:28:04.020 Iron Age

01:28:04.960 and it's only

01:28:06.000 with the coming

01:28:06.860 of God

01:28:07.660 and first

01:28:08.240 through Abraham

01:28:09.360 right

01:28:09.880 that we started

01:28:11.000 to have this

01:28:11.580 new moral order

01:28:12.640 that came through

01:28:13.520 because there

01:28:14.180 there were

01:28:14.720 societies that

01:28:15.720 practiced child

01:28:16.440 sacrifice

01:28:16.980 that happened

01:28:18.160 in the Americas

01:28:18.980 all the way up

01:28:19.680 through the time

01:28:20.740 of Columbus

01:28:21.220 by the way

01:28:21.960 go look at the

01:28:22.940 Cahokia Mounds

01:28:23.700 out in Illinois

01:28:24.440 right on the banks

01:28:25.080 of Mississippi

01:28:25.540 where the teenagers

01:28:26.260 were murdered

01:28:26.900 because they wanted

01:28:27.580 good crops

01:28:28.280 you saw child

01:28:30.520 sacrifice to Moloch

01:28:31.660 for years

01:28:32.800 these were real

01:28:34.100 things that actually

01:28:34.920 happened in our

01:28:35.780 world and we find

01:28:36.700 in Peru

01:28:37.420 every day

01:28:38.700 it feels like

01:28:39.240 there's a new

01:28:39.640 article about

01:28:40.540 finding some

01:28:41.060 mass grave

01:28:41.520 of children

01:28:42.000 and so

01:28:42.700 there's this

01:28:43.660 idea

01:28:43.900 by the way

01:28:44.240 this is the

01:28:44.660 reason that

01:28:45.380 when the

01:28:46.340 Aztecs were

01:28:46.880 overthrown

01:28:47.280 by the

01:28:47.620 Spanish

01:28:47.940 that many

01:28:48.880 of the

01:28:49.200 other tribes

01:28:50.080 joined with

01:28:51.480 Cortes

01:28:52.280 to go after

01:28:53.040 the Aztecs

01:28:53.620 because they

01:28:54.020 didn't want

01:28:54.340 to have to

01:28:54.680 keep sending

01:28:55.180 their children

01:28:55.720 to be

01:28:56.600 ritualistically

01:28:58.020 slaughtered

01:28:59.000 in these

01:28:59.420 arcane

01:29:00.040 pagan

01:29:00.320 practices

01:29:00.820 made MS-13

01:29:01.680 look like

01:29:02.100 Boy Scouts

01:29:02.660 oh easily

01:29:03.160 easily

01:29:03.600 and so

01:29:04.360 this idea

01:29:04.920 and I've

01:29:05.500 just

01:29:05.840 you know

01:29:07.300 just came

01:29:07.680 back actually

01:29:08.240 from Israel

01:29:08.900 about one

01:29:09.460 week ago

01:29:09.860 went to the

01:29:10.200 Holy Land

01:29:10.580 with my

01:29:10.840 family

01:29:11.220 and

01:29:12.180 incredible

01:29:13.780 just absolutely

01:29:14.660 incredible

01:29:15.120 and you know

01:29:16.420 for those

01:29:17.280 you know

01:29:17.700 I agree with

01:29:18.460 everything you

01:29:18.820 said about

01:29:19.280 the idea

01:29:19.900 of a

01:29:20.120 universal

01:29:20.500 morality

01:29:20.980 and this

01:29:22.160 idea of

01:29:22.560 trying to

01:29:22.960 get them

01:29:23.280 to at least

01:29:23.720 admit that

01:29:24.420 by the way

01:29:25.020 this is the

01:29:25.520 reason that

01:29:26.380 simulation

01:29:27.020 theory is

01:29:27.580 such a

01:29:27.840 cope

01:29:28.040 by the way

01:29:28.540 so simulation

01:29:29.260 theory is a

01:29:29.920 cope by the

01:29:30.920 secularists

01:29:31.760 to try

01:29:32.500 to try

01:29:33.300 to have

01:29:33.620 because they

01:29:34.060 have to

01:29:34.300 admit that

01:29:34.820 things just

01:29:35.260 work a little

01:29:35.760 bit too

01:29:36.220 well for it

01:29:36.820 to have all

01:29:37.160 been random

01:29:37.700 and so

01:29:38.840 they couldn't

01:29:39.820 you know

01:29:40.060 this whole

01:29:40.540 life was seeded

01:29:41.700 by aliens

01:29:42.240 theory didn't

01:29:42.840 quite go

01:29:43.220 anywhere because

01:29:43.720 they don't

01:29:43.900 have any

01:29:44.180 aliens to

01:29:44.700 point to

01:29:45.080 so now

01:29:45.720 the new

01:29:46.060 one is

01:29:46.340 simulation

01:29:46.780 theory and

01:29:47.340 say well

01:29:47.620 what if

01:29:47.860 some creator

01:29:48.700 came and

01:29:50.080 constructed

01:29:50.840 this reality

01:29:51.700 and we're

01:29:52.140 just programs

01:29:53.120 and sprites

01:29:53.780 living within

01:29:54.440 the reality

01:29:55.020 and there's

01:29:55.480 some greater

01:29:56.260 plan like a

01:29:57.220 program for

01:29:57.960 example and I

01:29:58.680 said well

01:29:59.020 yeah that

01:29:59.460 St. Paul's been

01:30:00.160 saying that for

01:30:00.660 2000 years

01:30:01.480 so but you

01:30:02.660 know and you

01:30:02.960 can walk

01:30:03.300 through all

01:30:03.580 that but

01:30:03.980 for me you

01:30:05.020 know I'm

01:30:05.420 probably just

01:30:06.020 going to go

01:30:06.460 up to them

01:30:07.000 and you know

01:30:07.700 they start

01:30:08.020 throwing all

01:30:08.440 that at me

01:30:08.760 and I just

01:30:09.120 go

01:30:09.300 and I'll just

01:30:14.400 do the whole

01:30:14.720 thing you know

01:30:15.280 because at

01:30:16.680 that point

01:30:17.180 it's it you're

01:30:18.180 not you're not

01:30:18.700 even having a

01:30:19.140 conversation

01:30:19.580 yeah that's

01:30:20.560 true they'll

01:30:21.040 understand the

01:30:21.640 Latin about as

01:30:22.280 well as they'll

01:30:22.740 understand the

01:30:23.240 English but it's

01:30:23.940 worth a valiant

01:30:24.540 effort I think it's

01:30:25.180 really worth a good

01:30:25.860 try and and look

01:30:27.260 I mean on that

01:30:28.420 point I was I was

01:30:29.400 never really a lib but

01:30:30.200 I was an atheist for

01:30:31.020 10 years I know

01:30:32.000 plenty of people who

01:30:33.180 at the religious

01:30:34.520 level

01:30:34.900 hey we all have

01:30:35.600 regrets

01:30:35.940 that's right yeah no I

01:30:37.080 mean I know people who've

01:30:37.760 converted religiously I

01:30:38.920 know people who have

01:30:39.500 changed their mind

01:30:40.140 politically some in a

01:30:41.380 dramatic way and so

01:30:42.340 these little conversations

01:30:43.600 really do matter it's

01:30:44.580 why it's why I'll speak

01:30:46.160 for myself I assume it's

01:30:46.980 true of you too Jack

01:30:47.740 it's why we come out to

01:30:49.220 the college campuses

01:30:50.080 because every so often

01:30:51.420 you get someone who

01:30:52.140 comes up to you says you

01:30:52.840 know this one random

01:30:54.160 thing you said that you

01:30:54.900 probably forgot that

01:30:55.880 actually got me thinking

01:30:56.660 and then I read this guy

01:30:57.440 and then I looked this up

01:30:58.180 and then it really

01:30:58.640 kind of changed my way

01:30:59.600 of viewing things and

01:31:00.600 so I wouldn't give up as

01:31:02.160 we said earlier getting

01:31:03.540 blackpilled is just a

01:31:04.620 total it's very stupid

01:31:06.300 it's very sinful you

01:31:07.180 shouldn't do it have

01:31:08.040 hope we're called to

01:31:08.780 have hope it's a

01:31:09.260 theological fact we're

01:31:10.520 going to win anyway in

01:31:11.400 the end and we're going

01:31:12.020 to have a good time

01:31:12.480 fighting in the meantime

01:31:13.320 thank you guys we are

01:31:14.800 winning and we're going

01:31:15.940 to win and ladies and

01:31:18.340 gentlemen thank you for

01:31:19.400 being out here tonight

01:31:20.380 thank you for taking part

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01:31:28.700 what are the advertisements

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01:31:39.460 myself Candace Charlie

01:31:41.160 Kirk will be headlining

01:31:42.420 the entire thing Tucker

01:31:43.420 Carlson Steve Bannon is

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01:31:46.060 fantastic event I don't

01:31:47.640 know if it's announced

01:31:48.240 yet but I also will be

01:31:50.080 are you on this I don't

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01:31:51.340 it yet I don't know if

01:31:52.260 we've announced it

01:31:52.600 it's an exclusive announcement

01:31:53.180 Michael will be there

01:31:54.080 that was that was a

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Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - November 08, 2022

EPISODE 310： The Live Free Tour - Poso and Michael Knowles at University of Delaware

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