Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - November 25, 2022


EPISODE 325： BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL - POSO SPEECH AT OHIO STATE


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34 minutes

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186.37912

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6,381

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358

Misogynist Sentences

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Summary

Jack Posobiec, host of Human Events Daily and Turning Point USA contributor, joins me in a virtual Q&A with the kids at OSU to discuss generational theory and the 4th Turning. We talk about how the 4 generations are molded by the events that they were exposed to in their early childhood.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Happy Black Friday, everybody. So we are on pre-record today, but I wanted to give you guys a special. I'm home with the family. I'm with Tanya Tay. I'm with the kids. We just had a delicious Thanksgiving dinner, but that doesn't mean that I wouldn't be here with you today.
00:00:14.140 So what we're going to do is I recently spoke at Ohio State University. We did a virtual discussion with the kids. We had a great Q&A. We had some trolls, some left-wing trolls, and we're going to play the entire thing for you to let you know how it went down.
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00:01:10.000 Well, thank you so much for having me, OSU. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard to a very special evening with Jack Posobiec, the host of Human Events Daily and a Turning Point USA contributor.
00:01:24.560 I apologize for not being able to be there with you in person, just with everything going on this week.
00:01:30.500 And schedule got changed around and things got moved around. And though I will note, I will note that I am here with you tonight and not down at Mar-a-Lago.
00:01:38.260 So take that for what you will. But I am here tonight and I'm here to speak with you because I wanted to keep this commitment with you.
00:01:46.400 And when you make a commitment, you really do have to keep a commitment because we live in a world of a lot of chaos, a lot of tumult, a lot of crisis.
00:01:59.020 And one of the things that we talk about on the show very often is this thing called the fourth turning.
00:02:04.260 And, you know, the way they have the camera set up, I can't see the audience, but if you guys have heard of the fourth turning, it's essentially this theory that goes back to Strauss and how they wrote this book in the 1990s, two books, actually.
00:02:16.440 One book called generations and one book called the fourth turning. And they believe in this idea called generation theory and generation theory was that every generation through essentially 20 year cycles is going through and putting society through the same 80 year cycles that they've been able to extrapolate from history.
00:02:38.660 And what they call these cycles are turnings and that it usually happens pretty much with around every 20 years.
00:02:46.840 So, of course, you might be familiar with, you know, the four generations that are, you know, that are around.
00:02:53.160 So, you know, you will say like, well, OK, there's the baby boomers, there's Gen X, there's millennials, and then there's Zoomers. Right.
00:02:59.780 So everyone's talking about those four generations all the time. Well, what's interesting is that generational theory fits perfectly within Strauss-How generational theory, that nomenclature that we use all the time about the four types of generations.
00:03:12.720 And then the interesting piece of generations, and then the interesting piece of this, though, is how those generations were molded by the events that affected them in their early childhood.
00:03:23.080 This is what Strauss-How believed, that those events then lead them to when they become into positions of power themselves, when they go on to become leaders of society, business, culture, thought leaders, et cetera, what have you, music.
00:03:39.500 That those same beliefs and those same pressures then have an effect on the way that they wield whatever type of political, cultural, and economic power that they have when they're older.
00:03:53.820 So one of the ones that you'll hear about a lot is people say, well, baby boomers have all this money, and baby boomers are used to the world being totally prosperous.
00:04:01.680 And because when they were born, the world was prosperous, and everything was great, and America was, everyone was making so much money, and you could get a job.
00:04:09.540 And it was this idea of you would get your job right out of college, you would stay at that job for 30 to 35 years, you'd work there until you were 65, you would retire, you'd get your Social Security, boom, you got Social Security.
00:04:20.100 And if you're lucky, Social Security and a pension, and then you would get out and pop off.
00:04:24.600 Myself, I'm a prior Navy intelligence officer, and in the military, there was this idea that you could stay, and this is actually changing, but there had been, and that kind of ties into what we're talking about tonight, that that ties into you would stay for 20 years, 20 years, you get your pension, boom, you're out.
00:04:40.920 So what a lot of people would do is they would graduate high school, 18 years old, join the military immediately, boom, 20 years, now you're 38, 38 years old, getting a pension, then you can go and work for the government another 10 years, now you're 48, you're getting two pensions, or you're working for some company, you do another 20 years or so, you're only 58.
00:05:00.300 So you're still under that general retirement age, but you're essentially making enough money to live for the rest of your life.
00:05:06.360 And this was the economy that baby boomers were born into.
00:05:10.320 And so to bring it back to Strauss Howe, there are four cycles, right?
00:05:14.600 There are these four cycles that seem to play out over and over throughout American history in 80-year cycles, four periods.
00:05:23.380 So here are the four turnings, as they call it, to use their nomenclature.
00:05:26.720 The first is the high turning.
00:05:29.420 This is an era of building, nation uniting over some crisis.
00:05:34.300 They've just defeated the enemy.
00:05:36.040 They've just come together, been cohesive as a country.
00:05:39.080 They're now building together.
00:05:40.400 There's a strong conformity.
00:05:42.560 There's a strong belief in family.
00:05:45.020 There's a strong belief in community.
00:05:48.180 And really the last period of that we see here in the United States is the 1950s.
00:05:53.240 Then you move into an awakening period.
00:05:56.420 This awakening is the children of that earlier period.
00:05:59.760 They then become rebellious.
00:06:01.420 They then start attacking those institutions that were created during the high period.
00:06:05.500 So this incoming generation, and you can see this with the sexual revolution in the 1960s going into the 1970s.
00:06:13.220 You can see this with attacks on essentially, quote unquote, the government itself, the institution of law enforcement, the ability of Western society in a whole.
00:06:23.640 And you're seeing, by the way, the fruits of people who grew up with those beliefs now currently being in power.
00:06:31.020 Because what's the third period?
00:06:32.440 The unraveling.
00:06:33.620 So the third turning is the unraveling.
00:06:35.680 This is your harvest and separation period.
00:06:37.820 Listen to this.
00:06:38.360 I argue that we are actually in the unraveling stage right now.
00:07:06.380 We're in an unraveling cycle.
00:07:08.440 But we are rapidly moving into the fourth turning.
00:07:11.700 What is the fourth turning?
00:07:12.740 That is an era of crisis.
00:07:14.780 It's an era that has always been outlined and underpinned by bloodshed.
00:07:21.000 And if you go back throughout United States history, in their book, by the way, if you go purchase the book, Strauss Howe, it goes all the way back to the 1400s.
00:07:30.680 It goes back to essentially to the dawn of the Renaissance or even pre-Renaissance medieval Europe.
00:07:36.500 And so if you just go back in U.S. history, though, 80-year cycles, right?
00:07:42.200 Well, 80 years before was World War II.
00:07:45.380 80 years before World War II is the Civil War.
00:07:48.600 80 years before the Civil War is the American Revolution.
00:07:53.040 And so World War II was almost exactly 80 years ago.
00:07:57.240 And so the contention is, are we rife?
00:08:01.880 Are we rife for another conflict right now?
00:08:06.140 Well, I hear a lot of people talking about a new American Civil War, a second American Civil War.
00:08:10.820 Some people even talk about national divorce, blue states, red states.
00:08:14.080 I'm not someone who believes in that.
00:08:15.500 I'm not someone who agrees with that because, quite frankly, I don't believe it could ever be done peacefully.
00:08:20.320 Just to answer the question.
00:08:21.080 I don't think that something like that would ever be able to be done peacefully.
00:08:25.420 But at the same time, just go look at what happened in Poland this morning, right?
00:08:29.860 So you had a situation, and we're still in the fog of war in terms of all of this.
00:08:34.520 There's an influx of crisis in Eastern Europe.
00:08:39.580 Russia has invaded Ukraine.
00:08:41.420 Ukraine's fighting back with assistance from NATO, massive assistance through weapons, through money.
00:08:48.600 Some of that money is being laundered through groups like FTX, this path-through organization, which to me looks like it clearly had some kind of intelligence ties.
00:08:57.440 Obviously had money laundering ties going on there.
00:08:59.760 The guy is essentially going, hopefully going to jail for that at some point when the investigation has continued, this sandbanked and freed.
00:09:06.800 But the larger point is what he represents and what that entity of FTX truly was.
00:09:12.120 Because we've seen banks in the past be involved with covert operations all the way back to Iran-Contra, back to the cartels, the Medellin cartels, Pablo Escobar.
00:09:23.960 I mean, these types of things have been going on throughout the United States intelligence agencies for generations now.
00:09:29.700 And so when you look at something like FTX and the fact that it's tied to so many of these top players like Tony Blair, like Bill Clinton,
00:09:37.800 it really makes you open the question and beg the question of who exactly was benefiting from this by allowing it to go forward.
00:09:45.520 And keep in mind that we only know about the collapse of FTX because apparently this guy was not only skimming funds, which of course, you know, banks do that.
00:09:55.880 But he was using it to prop up his girlfriend's hedge fund and the whole thing went completely under.
00:10:03.400 If your outflows do not match your inflows at some point and people start to call you on that, you are going to get caught.
00:10:11.080 Which I do laugh because, you know, I say if you, you know, if you think what FTX did was bad, wait till you find out what your bank's doing, right?
00:10:18.140 Wait till you find out what Wall Street's doing.
00:10:19.680 But at the same time, because of the international ties here, specifically with the ties to Ukraine at the beginning of the war,
00:10:25.720 that it was chosen as this anointed financial institution for the purposes of investing and bringing these FTT coins into Ukraine, be able to donate them.
00:10:41.320 You know, it really opens up this whole black box, which probably goes into a number of coins beyond FTX.
00:10:48.500 I mean, I would look at some of the stable coins, for example, but just crypto in general as a huge, huge, absolute playground for the intelligence services from not only just the U.S.,
00:11:00.560 but across NATO, across the Five Eyes and even other countries to be able to launder money in a way that you don't even need a bank anymore.
00:11:08.180 You don't even need, you know, the money guy flying the planes back and forth like Barry Seale used to do for the Medellin cartel and the CIA.
00:11:16.340 You can just run it through crypto and then you just need some guy to be the front of your operation.
00:11:20.760 So, sure, this guy, Sam Bankman-Fried, if this indeed is true, well, sure, he probably had no idea, right?
00:11:28.600 He's the fall guy.
00:11:29.500 He was set up to fall and now fall he shall.
00:11:32.260 And we're seeing the outcomes of that play out, but the people and the players that were above all of this, well, they'll never be caught and they'll never be brought to justice.
00:11:39.960 But going back to that idea of the fourth turning, because we're in a situation now with Russia that, you know, look, you've got a couple of rockets that have struck Poland and Poland is NATO territory.
00:11:55.020 Now, for me, being someone who is from a Polish family, that's close to home, right?
00:12:01.680 I've got family that lives in that border region between Poland and Ukraine.
00:12:05.680 And in fact, when we visited Ukraine over the summer, I actually stayed in my family village.
00:12:11.220 My last name Posobiec.
00:12:12.480 In Polish, you would say Posobiec.
00:12:14.180 And our village is very close to Lezysk, which is really, really close.
00:12:19.300 I mean, we stayed in their village the night before we went to the train station and then took the train further on into Lviv and then on to Odessa.
00:12:28.180 And then we actually took a car to Nikolaev.
00:12:30.940 But the situation is very close, is very caustic, and the tension is very high.
00:12:37.680 Now, it seems as though that some of the initial shock and response to this has come down.
00:12:43.940 They're opening an investigation.
00:12:45.400 They're going to see whether or not this was a deliberate act.
00:12:49.820 I don't necessarily think that Russia would strike a random brain silo in some remote town if it was truly making a move on NATO.
00:12:58.720 I mean, you think they would attack some kind of, I don't know, one of the railway stations or one of the supply lines,
00:13:04.060 something that was of more military significance to the war front.
00:13:08.660 But it does open up this question.
00:13:10.520 It opens up this question of the fourth turning, a bloody crisis.
00:13:18.620 We've all been talking about World War III so much lately, and it's gotten to the point where it's been completely normalized.
00:13:26.180 During the Cold War, by the way, go ask your parents or if you remember back then, people talked about World War III all the time.
00:13:34.660 People have been talking about World War III since the end of World War II, since 1945.
00:13:39.340 And I don't think that after the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, if you had told someone, well, it's going to be 80 years and we'll go 80 years without someone using a nuclear weapon,
00:13:49.280 they would have said, that's crazy.
00:13:50.240 We're not going to go eight months without someone using a nuclear weapon because once this technology gets out, it's going to proliferate.
00:13:56.100 But what was interesting about nuclear weapons is that when various world powers were able to receive this technology,
00:14:03.920 they actually had sort of an inverse effect that we haven't seen before in the world of warfare,
00:14:09.900 where a new technology that is capable of great and global destruction, widespread destruction,
00:14:18.140 actually creates the conditions for peace more so than more war because if, and if you notice,
00:14:27.060 the permanent members of the Security Council are all the nuclear nations, that if the United States uses nukes, then Russia can respond.
00:14:34.720 If the Russia uses nukes, then the United States can respond.
00:14:38.280 Even if Washington has taken out our long-range strategic nuclear missile submarines,
00:14:43.580 the boomers that are always out there from Kings Bay, Georgia, or Bremerton, Washington,
00:14:47.300 are always available and exist for that express purpose of second strike capability.
00:14:54.840 So second strike capability is always on the table.
00:14:57.300 That actually keeps us safe.
00:14:58.800 And you're seeing this now with China getting into the game on this.
00:15:02.380 North Korea, by the way, is also trying to bring forth second strike capability with submarine-launched ballistic missiles.
00:15:09.160 That's why, by the way, North Korea is trying so hard to make submarine-launched ballistic missiles
00:15:13.560 because they believe that the United States or Japan or other members of sort of the NATO alliance,
00:15:18.220 the Western alliance, is trying to take out the regime.
00:15:20.500 It's about survivability for them.
00:15:22.380 And so when I talk about all of these things, I just want to put everyone in that mindset
00:15:26.680 that we are in a very caustic situation.
00:15:31.500 And Klaus Schwab, the leader of the World Economic Forum, everyone's best friend,
00:15:35.280 tried to have me arrested when I was in Davos,
00:15:37.100 had me detained by the World Economic Forum police at gunpoint,
00:15:40.700 had me frisked, had my entire film crew frisked for the crime of reporting on camera,
00:15:46.940 dressed pretty much like I'm dressed now, except I was also wearing sunglasses, so I'll give them that.
00:15:51.160 And we were in Switzerland back over the summer, and they had us detained.
00:15:56.400 And they wanted to take our footage, and they wanted to delete all of it,
00:15:59.980 and they wanted us to hand over our passports and everything, and we refused.
00:16:04.040 They said, you can look at them, but you can't have them.
00:16:05.420 And he said earlier today at the G20, he said that we are experiencing a –
00:16:14.620 these are Klaus Schwab's words, not mine, okay?
00:16:17.080 The leader of the World Economic Forum just addressed the leaders of the world.
00:16:20.560 They're all there.
00:16:21.040 They're in Bali, Indonesia at the G20 for this summit.
00:16:25.140 And here's the words he said.
00:16:26.560 He said, we are facing a global multi-crisis.
00:16:30.280 That's his concept, the multi-crisis.
00:16:32.220 From a health standpoint, from a biological standpoint, from an economic standpoint, from an environmental standpoint.
00:16:40.540 And in his response, he said, the only way that we can fix this is through a world restructuring of our institutions,
00:16:52.060 a restructuring of the way that the world does business.
00:16:55.260 Well, it's my contention that if you look at the fourth turning, right, the institutions are weak and distrusted.
00:17:04.460 Institutions are torn down and rebuilt in response to perceived threats to the system's survival.
00:17:11.220 That's exactly what Klaus Schwab is talking about.
00:17:14.200 And so I think people have heard of Klaus Schwab's first book.
00:17:16.240 It's called The Great Reset.
00:17:17.200 We did a documentary, a great documentary on that with Turning Point USA.
00:17:20.380 Charlie Kirk sent us over there.
00:17:21.540 We did a great job putting together a docu-series.
00:17:24.400 You guys can go watch that at tpusa.com slash reset.
00:17:28.200 But Klaus Schwab had a second book, and that's called The Fourth Industrial Revolution.
00:17:35.380 So I said this on Twitter the other day, and I'll say it now.
00:17:38.740 You may not be interested in the fourth turning, but the fourth turning is interested in you.
00:17:44.960 And so it's all about preparing for that, understanding that we are entering a crisis period,
00:17:49.640 knowing what that means for you individually, what it means for you and your families,
00:17:53.660 what it means for you as you go forward in your careers, but also understanding that,
00:17:58.900 unfortunately, by luck of the draw or by divine providence or whatever you want to call it,
00:18:03.020 personally, for me, Catholic, I believe in divine providence, that that is what it is,
00:18:07.960 and that you were born at this time for this purpose.
00:18:10.620 And so in the interest of time, I know you guys are only there until 6.30 tonight.
00:18:15.360 I wanted to open it up for Q&A.
00:18:17.360 I'm not sure exactly how the logistics of that will work, but feel free to ask me any question you want
00:18:23.240 in terms of anything I talked about tonight, anything I didn't talk about.
00:18:27.340 Obviously, we are here.
00:18:28.500 It's a turning point event, which means that we are under nonprofit rules.
00:18:32.120 So I know everybody wants to talk about the elections and all this,
00:18:34.840 but I can give my personal opinion in a limited sense on that, but I can't go into as much as I normally would.
00:18:42.740 Hey, sir.
00:18:43.480 So in regards to the whole fourth turning idea,
00:18:46.460 do you think that state, local, national government, and whoever is in control of them,
00:18:52.380 do you think that it will obviously have an effect?
00:18:54.800 Do you think that would be a deciding effect of however a fourth turning turns out?
00:18:59.200 Well, I think it depends, right?
00:19:01.440 I think it depends on the, to use the Nassam Taleb term, anti-fragility of that government.
00:19:08.080 I mean, if you've got a government that's in total receptive mode, that's very passive,
00:19:12.320 that's simply going, you saw this during the COVID lockdowns, by the way.
00:19:15.640 So if you've got a state government that's willfully following whatever the edicts of the unelected bureaucrats
00:19:21.540 of Washington, D.C., like Dr. Fauci say, then no, I don't think they're going to be much of a factor.
00:19:26.380 But if you do have a strong state government that's willing to stand up for those rights,
00:19:30.580 whether it be a Ron DeSantis as governor of Florida, whether you look at Greg Abbott with what he's doing,
00:19:36.300 and by the way, he just declared Texas to be in a state of invasion right now.
00:19:40.240 So, I mean, again, he's telling you that we are in a global crisis.
00:19:43.840 He's certainly in a transnational crisis there, that it really depends on the,
00:19:49.660 I would say, the constituent level of that and the construction of that state government.
00:19:55.940 But I would also say that one thing that state governments absolutely need to do
00:20:00.800 is start to hire, and potentially en masse, more of a statewide force for when it comes to these
00:20:09.060 massive city riots, that you're going to see city riots again,
00:20:13.720 even potentially even larger than we saw in the wake of 2020 and the George Floyd riots.
00:20:18.420 You're going to see those on an even more massive scale.
00:20:20.960 But the response to those needs to be equally massive, or else it's going to completely get out of control.
00:20:29.880 Hello. I just have one, well, I guess, no, I just have one question.
00:20:36.680 Sure.
00:20:36.760 You can discuss how the fourth turning is essentially inevitable and will end in bloodshed on an 80-year cycle.
00:20:43.420 Was your role in the Stop the Steal movement that undermined the 2016 and 2020 elections,
00:20:48.840 and according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, your interactions with anti-government extremists,
00:20:54.700 members of the Proud Boys, and neo-Nazi operations,
00:20:58.420 is that in order to promote a fourth turning and bloodshed in the United States?
00:21:04.620 Well, I think it's amazing because the Southern Poverty Law Center exists to
00:21:08.780 incite mass shootings against conservative organizations by doxing people like the
00:21:15.160 Family Research Council mass shooting that they set up with Floyd Lee Corkins.
00:21:19.860 When Floyd Lee Corkins decided that he wanted to murder conservatives,
00:21:23.700 he went to the Southern Poverty Law Center's website.
00:21:26.220 He looked up their address.
00:21:27.540 He decided that I want to go kill these conservatives because the Southern Poverty Law Center
00:21:31.560 says that they're evil, bad people.
00:21:33.700 And so what did he do?
00:21:34.680 He got their website.
00:21:35.920 He got their actual physical address from the Southern Poverty Law Center's website.
00:21:40.320 And he says, these guys must be evil.
00:21:41.800 So I'm going to go kill them because the SPLC says so.
00:21:44.480 He then went not to go and just pick up his ammunition and his firearms.
00:21:48.600 Of course, he did that.
00:21:49.340 He also went to a Chick-fil-A.
00:21:52.500 Do you know why he went to the Chick-fil-A?
00:21:56.100 Sir, I believe you're-
00:21:57.660 He went to the Chick-fil-A because he said,
00:21:59.680 I went to smear Chick-fil-A sandwiches on the dead bodies of every single person that's in there.
00:22:05.000 So that's what the SPLC stands for.
00:22:06.820 The SPLC is also responsible, we are told, for the attack on Steve Scalise,
00:22:12.360 the attempted assassination of him when he was shot.
00:22:15.020 Senator Rand Paul was there.
00:22:16.380 You had a bunch of Republican congressmen at a softball game.
00:22:19.360 They were all shot up there.
00:22:20.520 So yes, I do think that the SPLC, as a matter of fact,
00:22:23.460 is responsible more so for the fourth turning than anything that I've ever said and done.
00:22:26.700 So I believe you're using the straw man fallacy to avoid my question.
00:22:31.940 Do you, is your-
00:22:33.220 Are you just like looking up a list of the fallacies?
00:22:34.940 Oh, that's a list of fallacies.
00:22:36.080 No, I'm actually pointing out something that the organization that you're talking about
00:22:39.980 is actually a domestic terrorist organization,
00:22:42.120 and you're using that as some kind of like legitimate source.
00:22:45.660 Okay, so I will rephrase.
00:22:47.540 Is your accepted affiliation with the Stop the Steal movement
00:22:53.800 and other sort of anti-big government organizations,
00:22:58.060 are those, your involvement in those organizations,
00:23:01.880 are you involved with those organizations to promote the fourth turning?
00:23:07.100 I would say I am absolutely involved with organizations like Turning Point USA
00:23:11.680 to stop big government, 100%.
00:23:13.540 All right, so thank you for hosting this too.
00:23:22.800 If this fourth turning isn't inevitable,
00:23:26.300 whether or not I guess is up for debate,
00:23:28.620 what can someone like us,
00:23:30.120 I'd say we probably have a group average age of about 20 years old,
00:23:33.400 what can we do to either prepare
00:23:35.280 or just take leadership in whatever things lie in front of us?
00:23:40.840 Yeah, that's a great question.
00:23:42.380 And I would say that for if you're conservative or liberal,
00:23:45.600 I would really point out that if you're going into a time of crisis
00:23:50.100 and if you're going into a time of,
00:23:52.220 and that's by the way, if any crisis,
00:23:53.880 I hope to God, I pray to God this is wrong, right?
00:23:56.300 I pray to God this is wrong.
00:23:58.180 And I'd say that for even if someone's triple mask
00:24:01.540 and triple vaxed and has the BLM flag flying up,
00:24:03.780 I don't wish harm on any of those people or anything like that,
00:24:06.400 even if we disagree on something politically.
00:24:07.780 But at the same time, we have seen this pattern play out over many years.
00:24:11.900 And so what I would say is when you're faced with any crisis,
00:24:14.820 you want to look to what you can control, right?
00:24:18.720 Whenever you're faced with a crisis, you have to look to,
00:24:21.280 okay, what can I control?
00:24:22.200 What's directly in front of my face?
00:24:23.720 What can I build?
00:24:24.680 What can I strengthen?
00:24:25.460 So the first thing is yourself.
00:24:26.520 You got to be healthy.
00:24:27.820 You've got to be strengthening yourself,
00:24:31.220 both your mental acuity, your physical acuity.
00:24:33.620 Are you working out?
00:24:34.480 Are you going to the gym?
00:24:35.540 Are you eating right?
00:24:36.460 Are you cutting out seed oils?
00:24:37.640 Are you getting sunlight?
00:24:38.660 Are you cutting out chemicals from not only your diet,
00:24:41.760 but your daily life?
00:24:42.640 I mean, I think those things are really excellent to focus on.
00:24:44.780 My wife, she's from Eastern Europe.
00:24:46.020 So one of the things she says is,
00:24:48.140 when I go to buy the food for the family,
00:24:50.600 I always look to see how many ingredients it has.
00:24:52.920 And if it has more than one,
00:24:54.200 you know, one is the standard.
00:24:56.420 And then like, I guess, a hundred,
00:24:58.000 like some of the American foods that you'll find is like the worst.
00:25:02.560 You want to get as close to one as possible.
00:25:04.600 So, so really it's strengthen self, strengthen family,
00:25:08.580 strengthen community bonds, right?
00:25:10.360 Find the people that you trust,
00:25:12.620 find the community that you trust,
00:25:14.620 and then build up that community locally,
00:25:18.260 regionally, whatever you can.
00:25:19.700 And, you know, I'm sure Charlie would appreciate if I,
00:25:22.720 if I said, you know,
00:25:23.580 that's one of the great things about starting and joining TPUSA chapters
00:25:27.600 and working with organizations like this so that we do have a network across,
00:25:31.580 across state lines, across, you know, age lines, in a sense,
00:25:36.180 from, from high school to college, to the alumni level.
00:25:39.420 So I think that, that organization, you know,
00:25:41.580 having that network to be able to fall on is going to be absolutely crucial
00:25:44.480 if we go into a crisis period like this.
00:25:46.520 We've got about two more questions.
00:25:49.740 Hi.
00:25:50.180 So I'm doing a project on creators like you and other right-leaning figures.
00:25:56.040 And I was wondering what you believe causes right-leaning content to attract an audience today
00:26:01.900 and how it affects users.
00:26:05.420 Okay.
00:26:07.560 Well, I would say that, you know, right-leaning content,
00:26:10.920 it attracts users because we offer, you know, a choice, not an echo,
00:26:16.380 and that we're not fungible.
00:26:17.640 And what do I mean by that?
00:26:18.860 That a lot of the content that you see today,
00:26:21.220 whether it comes from Hollywood,
00:26:22.780 whether it comes from one of these big VC-backed content generation farms,
00:26:27.980 it's clickbait, it's, it's your, your gruel, it's slop, it's, it's all the same, right?
00:26:34.140 It's the same thing again and again and again.
00:26:36.880 Like when's the last time the MCU or Star Wars put out something that actually seemed new or different, right?
00:26:42.680 It's, it's always exactly the same.
00:26:43.880 But then when, when we come out with something and, you know, not to speak for, you know,
00:26:49.340 all quote unquote right-wing content creators or influencers, you know,
00:26:52.780 we, we try to have a look on society that is different than what the mainstream is telling you,
00:26:58.700 that is different than what the establishment is telling you.
00:27:00.900 And we try to come to, again, looking at the same set of facts,
00:27:04.200 looking at the same set of trends that are going on,
00:27:07.060 we try to pick up the other side of the story,
00:27:09.500 whether that be on something like the effectiveness of COVID vaccines,
00:27:14.420 whether that be the, the threat, the real threat of World War III,
00:27:18.060 as I've spoken about tonight, which I hope to God obviously doesn't happen.
00:27:20.960 Certainly not, not in, in, in any small part to the fact that my, you know,
00:27:25.960 I have actual family members that live right, you know, right in that border area with Poland,
00:27:30.260 but it's also that, that, that we're coming at it from a different angle.
00:27:33.180 And then also trying to, trying to put the pieces together of what's going on,
00:27:37.660 because I do think, I do think there's a vast amount of people out there that aren't necessarily
00:27:41.540 left-wing or right-wing.
00:27:43.100 They're just kind of, they're just kind of normies, right?
00:27:45.040 It's not, not so much that they're centrists.
00:27:46.380 They're just sort of, you know, they're going through life.
00:27:48.200 They're going through the motions.
00:27:48.920 They're trying to figure things out.
00:27:49.960 And that's normal.
00:27:50.520 That's, that's what people are.
00:27:52.140 That's what people are going to go through.
00:27:53.320 I've got two little boys and I can see them going through it already.
00:27:55.820 You know, one's, one's four, one's about to be two here.
00:27:58.440 And at the same time, I think there's, I think with the, particularly the millennial generation,
00:28:05.320 I guess I'm like elder millennial, you could say.
00:28:07.720 And, and really with Zoomers, I think there's a lot of folks that are now looking out at society
00:28:12.200 and saying, you know, this doesn't seem like it's working.
00:28:14.660 These, this path that you told us to be on this whole, go to college, get a job, get married,
00:28:19.520 get a house, get kids, get a retirement.
00:28:21.640 Like I was talking about earlier, that it just doesn't seem like it's working the way
00:28:25.020 that it's been planned.
00:28:26.200 And what are the reasons for that?
00:28:28.020 And what are the, what's the history of that?
00:28:30.100 And I do think that that's something that we on the right in general, and I'm, and I'm
00:28:34.860 speaking with a broad brush, um, it seek to answer that question.
00:28:39.700 We seek to answer the question of, of what is missing from the equation, what is missing
00:28:44.760 from the conventional wisdom.
00:28:46.540 And we try to do that.
00:28:47.700 And, and look, you know, and, and be clear, you know, do we always get it right?
00:28:50.520 Absolutely not.
00:28:51.140 And, and I wouldn't sit here and say that I've, I've gotten everything right, but at
00:28:54.060 the same time, I don't think they do either.
00:28:56.000 And they'll sit there and act like they've get, you know, they've never been wrong on
00:28:59.820 anything in their life when, you know, you can point to a million different things that
00:29:03.040 they've gotten wrong.
00:29:03.860 So, you know, it's, it's, it's coming to it from a, from a different perspective.
00:29:07.380 And I think people, people like different perspectives.
00:29:10.100 I think that's why Twitter's doing well with, um, with Elon Musk bringing it in and actually
00:29:13.720 opening it up.
00:29:14.560 And it's like, guess what?
00:29:15.260 You've got the freedom to be right.
00:29:16.720 You've got the freedom to be wrong.
00:29:17.880 And that's one of the cool things about our system in America.
00:29:22.220 Hi, uh, thank you for speaking to us today.
00:29:24.480 So I was reading through your DMS with Richard Spencer that he released on his Twitter.
00:29:29.000 And I wanted to know what the nature of your relationship was with him and what your interest
00:29:32.780 was in Harold Covington.
00:29:34.840 Yeah.
00:29:35.240 I'm not familiar with whatever messages that you're talking about.
00:29:38.060 I'm not really sure what, what source you're referring to, but look, you know, there's,
00:29:41.960 there's somebody who comes, well, yeah, again, that's, that's someone that I wouldn't
00:29:44.540 use as a source, but, um, when it comes to people that, but, you know, there's, there's
00:29:49.780 photos of people that come up to you at events.
00:29:51.760 Um, you know, there was an incident at the RNC.
00:29:54.060 So I'm going to come up, they asked for a photo.
00:29:55.880 Uh, I got no idea who it was is going back six years, um, took a photo.
00:30:00.140 And as far as I know, that's the only time that, uh, there's any been any photo like
00:30:04.600 that.
00:30:04.900 As far as Richard Spencer directly, um, you can go back and go look at, at the history
00:30:10.760 here that we've held, um, multiple events, uh, where we threw him out of our events in
00:30:17.200 2016 at the deplorable, when he tried to come in, uh, we, we rejected his tickets.
00:30:21.860 We actually kicked out somebody for being antisemitic, uh, who was going to be a performer at the
00:30:26.000 event.
00:30:26.400 He made some statements that we didn't like.
00:30:27.860 And we said, look, you know, you're free to make those at your own event.
00:30:31.020 We're not interested in having you here that those DMs got so big that it went up, uh,
00:30:35.600 all the way to TMZ, um, held events at the white house back in 2017, June of 2017, calling,
00:30:42.520 um, you know, basically having a dueling rally there that's written up in the New Yorker,
00:30:47.320 et cetera.
00:30:47.620 So, you know, my, my history is out there for anybody to see.
00:30:51.000 So have you never had any personal communications with Richard Spencer, any interest in Harold
00:30:55.500 Covington?
00:30:55.980 Uh, my, my personal communications have always been in direct opposition.
00:31:01.020 In fact, there was one time where he, he and his little posse, uh, tried to, uh, tried
00:31:06.100 to square up with me outside of Trump hotel when I was with my brother.
00:31:09.000 And let's, let's just say that they backed down pretty quickly.
00:31:11.980 So the DMs that he leaked, where you were talking about Harold Covington's literature
00:31:15.700 and the NPI ball, are you saying those are not real?
00:31:18.940 I honestly have no idea what you're talking about.
00:31:21.040 And I can't, I can't see if you're holding anything up right now.
00:31:22.880 Sorry.
00:31:23.380 It's on his Twitter and it's, he has a verified account as well.
00:31:25.900 So you should check that out because it's pretty big.
00:31:28.300 Yeah.
00:31:28.420 I'm pretty sure anybody can get verified right now, bro.
00:31:31.020 All right.
00:31:34.080 Well, that's time.
00:31:35.160 Sorry.
00:31:35.180 We're out of time here.
00:31:36.500 Um, like to thank you for, uh, keeping your commitment and speaking to us today.
00:31:41.100 We really appreciate it.
00:31:42.660 And, uh, hopefully we'll be able to do something in the future as well.
00:31:46.260 Well, I appreciate it.
00:31:46.980 And thank you very much to OSU and to everybody.
00:31:49.020 Um, I really hope everybody had a great time.
00:31:50.700 Great questions, by the way, appreciate the hard ones, appreciate the good ones.
00:31:53.860 Some thoughtful, some not so thoughtful, but we, we absolutely appreciate it.
00:31:58.040 And I'd love to make it out there in person the next time we come.
00:32:01.020 So thank you.
00:32:01.560 God bless to everybody, even to the trolls that came up, the trolls, the haters.
00:32:05.620 Don't worry.
00:32:06.260 I'm going to pray my rosary tonight for you guys too.
00:32:08.100 All right.
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