Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - December 20, 2022


EPISODE 346: HUMAN EVENTS DAILY AMFEST SPECIAL WITH JACK POSOBIEC AND DARREN BEATTIE


Episode Stats

Length

24 minutes

Words per Minute

162.69238

Word Count

3,964

Sentence Count

258

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

The January 6th Committee has now brought 4 criminal referrals against President Trump for incitement and conspiracy to commit espionage. What does this mean for the future of the Trump administration? Is this the beginning of the end of the road for the Trump presidency?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard to today's edition of Human Events Daily.
00:00:14.020 As you can see, we're here at AmericaFest.
00:00:16.060 We're wrapping up things.
00:00:18.000 Everything's running down, and yet someone was trying to leave,
00:00:23.040 and I grabbed him and prevented him from entering his Uber,
00:00:26.080 and that was Dr. Darren Beattie who was there with us.
00:00:29.160 And I've got an excellent shout-out, by the way, on True Social the other day from President Trump.
00:00:34.480 I saw that was incredible, and I wanted to grab him and get him on to do an interview with us
00:00:42.000 because we've now seen four criminal referrals against President Trump regarding January 6th
00:00:50.100 as the January 6th committee is wrapping up.
00:00:53.520 And I've got to get, you know, obviously this has been a focus of Revolver News for some time.
00:00:59.160 Let me get your reaction to these charges and then also where you think this is going to play out.
00:01:05.640 No, that's a great question, and you're right.
00:01:07.680 We've been following all aspects of January 6th, but also the corrupt January 6th committee for some time.
00:01:15.000 And, you know, my initial impression is the charges are ridiculous, especially the incitement charge.
00:01:20.900 He said, go peacefully and patriotically to the Capitol, and they're recommending an indictment for incitement.
00:01:30.680 Meanwhile, they're defending a now infamous character called Ray Epps,
00:01:37.020 who we have on camera repeatedly telling people, I'm probably going to go to jail for this,
00:01:42.220 but we need to go into the Capitol, into the Capitol.
00:01:45.880 So the juxtaposition of those two things, which is clearly the J6 witch hunt against Trump
00:01:51.760 versus all the things that they didn't touch and didn't talk about is quite remarkable.
00:01:56.080 You know, and neither of us are lawyers, but I'd like to know if there's some other legal definition of the word incitement,
00:02:02.580 because when I hear Ray Epps' statements, go into the Capitol, storm the Capitol, that's where our enemy is.
00:02:10.680 Right. Our enemy is the Capitol. He literally said that.
00:02:13.860 To me, I would define that as incitement.
00:02:18.020 Yep.
00:02:18.320 And when I hear President Trump make these, you know, and they try to tie these vague statements,
00:02:22.720 or even when I was on War Room the day before with Steve Bannon, and we're saying,
00:02:26.620 oh, it's going to be historic, it's going to be epic, it's, you know, talking about the debate on the floor.
00:02:32.580 Right.
00:02:33.200 They try to use this, they try to paper over that and tie it together.
00:02:37.840 Well, it's a dog whistle, it's implicit.
00:02:40.640 Right.
00:02:41.160 We know what he really means.
00:02:43.240 Well, okay, maybe.
00:02:44.060 But, I mean, if that's your argument, then why is it that the only person that the January 6th committee,
00:02:52.280 Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, and all of them stuck their necks out in defense of was Ray Epps?
00:02:59.340 No, it really says everything you need to know.
00:03:01.720 And the answer to that is the same answer as, why is the only January 6th participant about whom the New York Times has written a puff piece?
00:03:10.400 That also happens to be Ray Epps.
00:03:12.060 That's pretty remarkable, isn't it?
00:03:13.940 This guy is the only insurrectionist that the New York Times happens to love enough to do a fully dedicated puff piece.
00:03:20.640 Liz Cheney doesn't want you to touch him.
00:03:22.660 Adam Kinzinger says, don't touch poor Ray Epps.
00:03:25.100 This is all about Trump doing incitement because he said, go peacefully and patriotically to the Capitol.
00:03:31.400 It's a complete joke.
00:03:32.880 And I'd love to get into some other elements about the committee itself that people might not be aware of.
00:03:39.340 First of all, I think the appropriate context in which to think about this committee and what they're doing, this is a third impeachment.
00:03:46.800 Yes.
00:03:47.080 This is an extension of, and it's not just an extension.
00:03:50.860 We've attained permanent impeachment.
00:03:53.360 Exactly.
00:03:53.980 It's permanent impeachment.
00:03:54.900 No, it's permanent.
00:03:55.620 It's the eternal recurrence of the same clowns who are trying at all costs to undermine Trump.
00:04:04.400 But it's not just a third impeachment on a conceptual level.
00:04:08.200 It's literally the pedigree of the J6 committee traces back to impeachment efforts a notorious figure that Revolver News helped introduce to the public,
00:04:19.940 a notorious figure called Norm Eisen, the color revolution architect.
00:04:24.500 Fingerprints of Eisen.
00:04:25.620 Now, Norm Eisen had a lawfare organization called Crew, and one of the people he worked with very closely was called Joseph Sellers.
00:04:35.540 Joseph Sellers, along with the NAACP and along with Benny Thompson, initiated a lawsuit against Trump and the Proud Boys and others for January 6th that induced a specific theory of the case.
00:04:51.060 And so the whole January 6th committee's theory of the case comes from that initial lawsuit, which you'd think, if anything, is a conflict of interest.
00:04:59.900 It's having Benny Thompson run the J6 committee when he initiated a personal lawsuit against Trump advancing a particular theory of January 6th,
00:05:09.040 in which, of course, Trump is the criminal who did obstruction and all of this.
00:05:13.160 And the point you're making is that if there had been a true insurrection, armed individuals storming the Capitol, perhaps holding it for 48 to 72 hours, actual ties to people in government,
00:05:32.900 you'd want a true investigation of this, but you couldn't have someone running that investigation that was already filing a one-sided lawsuit against the person that you decided was the ringleader of the whole thing.
00:05:47.940 Right, and which already had a theory of the case fully laid out.
00:05:51.500 The J6 is supposed to look at the issue afresh, but, of course, you know, we all know it's a joke.
00:05:56.600 Anything with Liz Cheney is a joke.
00:05:58.380 It'd almost be like the FBI running the Oswald investigation.
00:06:01.000 Exactly.
00:06:02.480 Heaven, heaven forfend that.
00:06:04.720 But, no, it's completely ridiculous.
00:06:07.280 And as long as we're on Benny Thompson, so he's not just the chair of the J6 committee.
00:06:12.040 Here's another interesting link that people might not know.
00:06:14.660 Benny Thompson is the Department of Homeland Security's stooge in Congress.
00:06:21.280 Benny Thompson, whenever the Democrats control Congress, Benny Thompson is the chair of the Homeland Security Committee.
00:06:28.300 He must have been chair, like, at least seven times, something like that.
00:06:31.680 It's pretty insane.
00:06:32.080 No, this must be because of his background of National Security Service, his understanding of the threats to our homeland,
00:06:40.840 his zeal in protecting our sovereign rights.
00:06:43.760 Certainly this.
00:06:44.860 Certainly this.
00:06:45.760 Well, you know, the Department of Homeland Security was set up in the aftermath of 9-11 for this war on terror,
00:06:51.840 which I think, at best, has mixed results.
00:06:54.580 But Benny Thompson came out very early on as the DHS's reliable stooge
00:06:59.580 and pushed all these sort of Patriot Act-type proposals coming through DHS.
00:07:05.600 And I just find it very interesting, given what we've recently learned about the DHS, its role in censorship of Twitter,
00:07:13.740 its role in censorship of the Internet more broadly, its obsession with censoring misinformation on three different things.
00:07:21.640 On COVID, on election integrity, and on January 6th.
00:07:30.240 You know, Darren, since we're on the subject of the DHS, and, you know, when we look at the timeline of the Twitter files that have come out,
00:07:38.420 we have to remember that the Twitter situation with FBI and DHS, that was October 2020.
00:07:46.100 Then the preferred candidate of the national security state enters the White House.
00:07:53.100 They take over DHS, the apparatus there.
00:07:56.140 And the very first thing they attempt to do is erect this organization within DHS, a law enforcement organization,
00:08:03.920 not just, but an organization like the FBI that straddles both intel and law enforcement, law enforcement powers.
00:08:10.520 And they attempted to create a program called the Disinformation Governance Board.
00:08:16.320 And it was going to be run by our good friend, Nina Yankovic.
00:08:21.260 And now, I gave a speech earlier today where I said, you know, I made a MyPillow joke,
00:08:27.200 and I said, Nina, if you're staying up at night, I've got a way to help with that.
00:08:31.740 But, Darren, do you have a message for Nina?
00:08:33.880 Because she was so excited about being named to the Department of Homeland Security.
00:08:38.340 She leaked her own hiring to Politico because she wanted someone to know about it.
00:08:44.260 But it turned out that after I exposed it and you exposed her background, she had to resign in utter disgrace.
00:08:52.520 And is it possible that she's just sitting at home right now listening to us,
00:08:57.520 perhaps spinning some moaning Myrtle records, sipping her wine?
00:09:02.660 What can we tell her at this Christmas season?
00:09:04.640 You know, for someone like Nina, and I've become, unfortunately, familiar with a variety of these sort of disinformatrix-type figures.
00:09:15.420 And I'd have to say, like, she's probably the more personal of the bunch.
00:09:20.000 At least when she started out, there was sort of a light aspect to her personality.
00:09:24.880 She got heavier as things went on in a metaphorical sense.
00:09:30.100 But it's really just the clownishness of her choice as the head of the disinformation governance board.
00:09:37.540 It was too ridiculous even for clown world America.
00:09:41.580 It was too ridiculous even for this ridiculous country.
00:09:45.420 Even clown world rejected Nina Yankovic.
00:09:46.800 Which says a lot.
00:09:48.180 And so I can't help but have kind of a soft spot for her just because she's so ridiculous and silly.
00:09:53.960 There's almost a kind of charm to it.
00:09:56.060 Is Darren Beattie showing empathy?
00:09:58.740 And emotional empathy?
00:10:00.620 See, Lex Fridman would never show empathy for one of his targets.
00:10:05.080 But the thing about Nina that really is important to understand is really beyond Nina.
00:10:10.180 She's kind of a non-entity.
00:10:11.540 She's just a silly, silly person.
00:10:13.660 But she was involved in this thing called the Integrity Initiative, which you know a lot about.
00:10:18.120 We've talked about.
00:10:18.840 Oh, she's more than just involved because now after being fired from Department of Homeland Security
00:10:25.300 and the resignation disgrace, her name turns up on foreign agent registration papers.
00:10:32.640 And Darren, which country is she now an officially registered foreign agent of?
00:10:39.080 My guess would be the UK.
00:10:40.560 It's the UK.
00:10:41.540 And, you know, and this is the what's surprising to me about that is that it's actually official in the UK
00:10:46.920 because just in a nutshell for people not familiar with the Integrity Initiative,
00:10:50.980 this was a funded by the UK government, funded by the American government,
00:10:56.820 funded by NATO cutouts like the Atlantic Council and so forth.
00:11:00.820 But basically it was clusters of journalists who were basically put on tap to engage in psychological influence operations
00:11:09.000 to interfere with the political processes of NATO countries, including the United States.
00:11:15.480 This is the exact blueprint for the disinformation industry and for all of the operations that Twitter became infamous for.
00:11:23.500 And it's called the Integrity Initiative.
00:11:25.560 And she was one of the key figures part of that UK cluster, which is probably the worst cluster.
00:11:32.620 But there are other figures involved, too, like Ben Nimmo.
00:11:35.820 And it's really a who's who character of sort of the disinformation economy.
00:11:40.560 And, you know, you think there are people like Renee DiResta, which we've already talked about.
00:11:45.680 She's not necessarily Integrity Initiative, but you just can't make this up.
00:11:49.700 She was engaged in all of these operations talking about, oh, Russia, Russia, this, Russia, that.
00:11:56.780 She was attacking Roy Moore in Alabama, saying he's supported by Russians.
00:12:00.880 Her group faked Russian accounts to support this guy and then blamed him for being supported by Russians
00:12:07.540 and used that as a pretext to say Russian influence is a problem.
00:12:11.960 So, Darren, you mentioned that in Roy Moore.
00:12:14.460 We also saw with the Hunter Biden case, they desperately were trying to find some tie between this laptop and Russia.
00:12:27.880 Right.
00:12:28.060 And it actually got to the point where it's kind of like that scene in Idiocracy, the famous documentary by Mike Judge,
00:12:35.920 who, and I love the scene where he's trying to implore the, and I know we're making a lot of references on this episode,
00:12:44.840 but that's what happens when Darren comes on, that he's trying to explain to them why plants need water to grow rather than Brondo.
00:12:53.460 And eventually he can't get it across to them, and so he eventually has to say, you know what, I can talk to plants,
00:13:04.560 and the plants told me that they want water.
00:13:08.020 And this is essentially what the national security state does to, and it's not just Twitter.
00:13:13.740 Twitter's just the one we know about.
00:13:14.840 But it's what they do to the Twitter executives, who, yesterday we find out, were given top-secret interim clearance by the federal government
00:13:22.120 in order to look at some files where they said, we couldn't find any ties between this laptop and the Russian government.
00:13:30.400 So we just told them that it was a Russian government operation.
00:13:34.120 We put out a statement of 51 national security officials, and they went along with it, even though we had no evidence whatsoever.
00:13:41.520 It's straight from the pages of videocracy.
00:13:44.180 But Darren, my question for you is, it's not necessarily the fact that they lied, but why is it, why not, say, the Iranian government?
00:13:55.580 Why not the Chinese Communist Party?
00:13:58.260 Why does it always have to be Russia, whether it's 2016, 2017, then in 2020?
00:14:04.360 I don't think we've heard one from 2022 yet, but, well, the year is young.
00:14:09.160 And we may soon find out the operations are built.
00:14:12.500 Why is it always that this particular cluster focuses on Russia?
00:14:17.820 You know, that's a great, that's really a great question.
00:14:20.920 And just as long as it's on my mind, Revolver does some satirical pieces, too.
00:14:26.540 And one of our most popular is why idiocracy is actually a more intelligent system than the one we have now.
00:14:33.960 So, anyone who's interested in that, check that out.
00:14:37.160 I don't think I've heard that one.
00:14:37.180 Yeah, it's got funny things.
00:14:38.740 Like, well, for one, they at least have the common sense to find who the smartest person is and let them be in charge.
00:14:46.500 Like, that's one thing.
00:14:47.420 Be essentially the autocrat of the system.
00:14:48.940 That automatically gives them more, you know, means they should deserve more credit than we do.
00:14:53.000 Well, they do also try to kill him.
00:14:55.040 True.
00:14:55.780 True.
00:14:56.300 There are some hiccups to that.
00:14:57.640 But, no, the question of why the obsession with Russia, it really gets down to the fact that there are factions within what we call the deep state in the intelligence community.
00:15:08.420 And this goes all the way back to our reporting on the color revolution issues, that there's a certain faction of the intel community called the Atlanticists, whatever you want to think.
00:15:17.380 They're aligned with NATO.
00:15:19.080 They're associated with groups like the Atlantic Council and so forth.
00:15:22.460 And George Soros is a major figure in this sort of constellation.
00:15:28.600 Which, and by the way, just for folks' background, I know I said we weren't going to explain the references, but when we look at these operations, this is exemplified through the Five Eyes Intelligent Sharing Network.
00:15:41.260 And go look, who is Christopher Steele, an agent of?
00:15:44.960 MI6.
00:15:46.760 Where were the meetings held?
00:15:48.500 London.
00:15:49.240 Where was the Steele dossier put together?
00:15:51.240 It's London.
00:15:52.020 Where was Gina Haspel, the station chief of, during Crossfire Hurricane?
00:15:57.920 She's the station chief of London.
00:16:00.240 And yet, for some reason, we never quite tie the UK and elements of the UK deep state into all of these discussions.
00:16:10.340 Right.
00:16:10.800 Well, I mean, this is the Atlanticist faction.
00:16:13.800 And, I mean, it's a very complicated answer.
00:16:16.380 I think the UK's particular fixation on Russia speaks to its sort of tacit acknowledgement of its status as a middling power.
00:16:27.100 They're just not of a status that they could confront anything bigger.
00:16:30.480 And so they're very invested in the United States remaining geopolitically focused on Europe.
00:16:36.780 And so that's part of it.
00:16:40.080 But there's also a sociology of it.
00:16:42.420 The 19th century, great game.
00:16:45.560 Inertia, yeah, that sort of thing.
00:16:47.600 Whether you want to focus on Russia, focus on China.
00:16:50.360 And, you know, the Atlanticist group is definitely focused on Europe and favors a particular sort of influence model that I've described as the color revolution model.
00:17:00.740 And that model is particularly tailored to the phenomenon that we call wokeness because it requires mass mobilization.
00:17:08.540 It requires exacerbating certain cultural and ethnic cleavages within societies and mobilizing on that basis, leveraging the media and NGOs.
00:17:17.920 And so it's really important, I think, to understand the sociology and the ideology of this particular faction because it's played such a key role.
00:17:28.380 Well, and by the way, to piggyback on that, you know, we talk about the Orange Revolution in Ukraine.
00:17:34.300 We talk about the Maidan as a color revolution.
00:17:37.060 We talk about the Arab Spring.
00:17:39.280 And yet I don't for the life of me.
00:17:42.260 Well, I know why.
00:17:43.320 But I think one thing that we need to do a better job of is explaining that what we experienced domestically in 2020 is a textbook color revolution.
00:17:53.680 From top to bottom, they used the story of George Floyd to rile and inflame the masses.
00:18:04.420 They, in conjunction with lockdowns and psychological operations, and Matthias Desmond talks about mass formation, all of this was done.
00:18:14.360 And the EIP and Norm Eisen brag about this in Time magazine.
00:18:19.380 This was a textbook color revolution.
00:18:22.140 You might call it the BLM color revolution.
00:18:24.340 No, exactly.
00:18:25.240 It's the BLM revolution.
00:18:26.600 And the thing is that this goes way back to Revolver's, like, earlier, you know, early greatest hits.
00:18:31.580 It was like your first, you know.
00:18:32.940 Yeah, the color revolution story.
00:18:34.580 It wasn't just that it was the same tactics.
00:18:37.380 It was literally the same people.
00:18:38.740 The same people.
00:18:39.160 The same color revolution professionals.
00:18:41.260 The people like Norm Eisen, who literally wrote the book on color revolution called The Playbook.
00:18:46.380 There's people like Michael McFowl, who was the color revolution, you know, in charge of Russia.
00:18:53.540 There are, you know, people like Anne Applebaum, who happens to have been a member of the Integrity Initiative UK cluster, I believe.
00:19:00.760 And all of these people, it's the same cast of characters.
00:19:03.100 And so it's one thing if they use the same tactic, but you notice the same cast of characters.
00:19:07.820 And part of that is just they viewed the emergence of Trump in 2016, the preceding Brexit phenomenon, as equivalent threats.
00:19:21.200 Populism as an equivalent threat to the so-called authoritarian threats that they saw in Eastern Europe.
00:19:27.220 And they deployed the exact same mechanisms and tools to suppress the energies associated with the Trump movement and other populist movements domestically that they did against, you know, pick your, pick your, you know, Eastern European, quote unquote, authoritarian that they went after.
00:19:45.860 Same people, same playbook, same tactics.
00:19:48.580 And you see that in the recent news with the J6 committee and the pedigree of that charge of this third impeachment goes all the way back to Norm Eisen.
00:19:57.640 And there's nobody more decorated than Norm Eisen in terms of lawfare efforts against Trump.
00:20:02.520 He's literally the key hatchet man, the key figure in all of these operations against Trump.
00:20:09.740 So with that, we've got a couple of minutes left here.
00:20:14.860 The new Congress is coming up.
00:20:16.840 Yeah.
00:20:17.240 Darren, if asked by, and, you know, we'll find out who the speaker is here soon enough, and the committee chairs, and I just hope they're strong, right?
00:20:27.600 That's what I keep saying to everybody.
00:20:29.220 If asked, would you be willing to keep the January 6th committee open on the contingency that they named the chief inquisitor you?
00:20:39.340 Absolutely.
00:20:41.220 I mean, I am a big fan of keeping the committee, but actually having it serving the purpose that it should serve, which is to get to the bottom of January 6th.
00:20:50.660 And there are very specific items I've been calling for.
00:20:54.040 We've done a lot of reporting on the pipe bomb issue.
00:20:56.800 It's very easy.
00:20:57.920 And this is what I was going to say to anyone elected official.
00:21:00.320 Do you remember Chris Hayes was started getting in on this from MSNBC?
00:21:04.460 Yeah.
00:21:04.560 Why don't we know who this pipe bomber is?
00:21:06.540 It's incredible.
00:21:07.540 But that actually illustrates an important point and something that people who want to do something good, but maybe they're more on the cowardly side should think about than GOP.
00:21:17.280 You don't need to go full revolver news and say the dirty word Fed's erection to say, I want to find out who the pipe bomber is.
00:21:27.240 You don't have to say, Darren Beattie was right about January 6th to say, whoever it was, this person planted explosive devices outside the Democrat national headquarters, and we want to find out who this person is, whether they're Republican, whether they're Democrat, whoever they are.
00:21:42.800 This was a terrorist operating on January 5th, January 6th, and we are law and order people.
00:21:49.480 We want to know who it is.
00:21:50.520 It doesn't take any political courage to say that, and that at the very, very least, I expect incoming Congress to do that.
00:21:57.820 I mean, you don't need the meemaws of Alaska and Alabama and the peaceful people who were walking within the lines.
00:22:09.940 It seems like those are the ones that the FBI is much more interested in going after.
00:22:14.120 People locked up for two years now in some cases with no trial.
00:22:18.660 Though I am told that they have tablets while they're in there, and they are able to actually, on Pluto, watch Real America's Voice and watch The War Room and watch everything.
00:22:28.060 So, you know, we're praying for you this Christmas season, but also, what, bottom line, what is the most important thing that the new Congress could do going forward?
00:22:42.560 I know it's a complicated question, but what would you like to see out of the new Congress to fight back against any of this?
00:22:48.680 Well, I mean, most broadly speaking, I support what I think David Sachs just said on Twitter.
00:22:55.480 It's like, we need a new church committee.
00:22:57.440 Broadly speaking, we need a new church committee.
00:22:59.920 But more specifically, we need an investigatory committee like the January 6th committee to get to the bottom of very specific issues.
00:23:07.580 And I've been on record saying the two smoking guns of January 6th are Ray Epps and the pipe bomb.
00:23:13.160 And there are very specific actions that this Congress can take in terms of availing itself of subpoena power to get to the bottom of those two issues.
00:23:21.100 And you've done the work that shows there are hours of videotape that the FBI has.
00:23:27.160 They've doctored footage that's been released.
00:23:29.320 Right.
00:23:29.620 But we have not ever seen the archive of.
00:23:32.120 We just want the chain of custody.
00:23:33.560 Just give us the chain of custody of the DNC pipe bomber footage and the full, raw, and unedited footage, and let's start from there and see where it goes.
00:23:40.760 I guarantee you it will lead to very, very dark places.
00:23:44.560 But as they say, the cliche, but it's true, sunlight is the best disinfectant, and it's time for a reckoning.
00:23:50.440 All right.
00:23:50.700 We'll do Darren Beattie on Gen 6.
00:23:53.800 I'll take social media.
00:23:55.400 There you go.
00:23:55.520 I'll start with the Twitter files.
00:23:57.200 I'll start with Nini Ankovich and work my way down from there.
00:23:59.960 But go easy on her.
00:24:01.060 We'll go easy on Nina.
00:24:01.940 We'll go easy on Nina.
00:24:03.100 Nina, if you're listening, just work with us.
00:24:06.360 We'll cut a deal.
00:24:07.020 Save the animus for Brandy's address.
00:24:08.840 Save it for Brandy.
00:24:09.560 We'll save it for Brandy.
00:24:11.560 Darren, always a pleasure.
00:24:12.940 Thank you.
00:24:13.320 Revolver.news is the site, and I think there's an interesting interview that might be coming out there very soon.
00:24:17.960 Oh, yes.
00:24:18.520 I heard a rumor of that, too.
00:24:20.180 Darren, always a pleasure.
00:24:21.100 Great.
00:24:21.620 Thank you.