Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - January 02, 2023


EPISODE 357: EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH REP. MATT GAETZ AT AMFEST


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Summary

In this special edition of Human Events Daily, we're recording this as you can tell on the sidelines of ASU s annual convention in Phoenix, Arizona, with Rep. Jim Jordan (R-AZ) and Rep. Matt Gates (D-GA) as they discuss what it means to be a "Young Adult" in politics, what it takes to run for President, and what it's like to work for a political party in the 21st century.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 well ladies and gentlemen welcome aboard to a very special edition human events daily we're
00:00:15.100 recording this as you can tell on the sidelines of america vest here in phoenix arizona i am here
00:00:21.880 with congressman jim jordan oh no wait no you're not jim jordan are you better hair with the hair
00:00:27.300 not as likely to be i should have realized i don't know no no this is matt gates isn't it right
00:00:32.280 that's what i'm gosh producer angelo you told me it was jim jordan this isn't jim jordan at all
00:00:38.220 what's going on here well because we prefer the like sec states over the big 10 states oh snap
00:00:44.120 oh snap no we are here with um uh my favorite intelligence agent uh we're here with congressman
00:00:50.700 matt gates congressman how you doing i'm good man it is always exciting to be here because you're
00:00:56.640 seeing the future of the party and the movement and you're seeing very clearly what ideas get
00:01:00.940 folks fired up to continue to participate i had i had a question just before we started this
00:01:06.880 and someone said you know what what gives you hope you know what you know what causes you to not get
00:01:13.060 you know the black pill how do you protect from the black pill and i said look around you're
00:01:17.900 surrounded by a sea of white pills right now and no that's not a uh oh wow welcome to the last edition
00:01:23.660 of human events we're both canceled right um but it's no it's hopeful right so it's hope versus
00:01:28.680 despair and this idea that you look at these events they're just getting bigger and bigger
00:01:33.220 the crowd and it's it's something that that charlie was driving for and then bringing me but also
00:01:39.420 bringing steve bannon here this year um having the war room in you you realize that typically turning
00:01:45.400 point had this i guess reputation it was for kids right it was the student events but this is not a
00:01:51.500 student event this is really an all-ages thing and i think they met their mark well and we have to
00:01:56.700 leverage the skill stack of young people who are able to do things in our politics now that yes
00:02:02.420 frankly the boomer class of the congressional gerontocracy can't you know i mean right now
00:02:07.980 political communication is driven in the digital space it's not the drive town to town anymore it's
00:02:14.380 being able to have viral moments and effective digital products and you know for a lot of these digital
00:02:20.580 natives uh it is exciting to see how those how those issues like interface with our tools do you
00:02:27.200 know anything about viral moments by any chance are you familiar with you know i don't always know when
00:02:32.380 they happen uh but they do send to follow me well no it's it's it's exactly right and i i feel like
00:02:38.600 with the exception of yourself and a few people out there it's sort of the aoc question that they
00:02:44.780 don't that when she's up there we might be laughing and saying oh she said something silly and and and
00:02:51.400 and people on the right are laughing but guess what everyone on her side they clip that and they package
00:02:56.500 that and they polish it and they only send the best part out to her side my favorite trick that they do
00:03:01.240 by the way it's not just for her they do everyone should they'll edit an interaction one of these
00:03:06.780 hearings where it's they'll have her saying something will cut off completely the response
00:03:14.820 and then they'll play it aoc owns you know border security whatever and they don't even give the fact
00:03:21.620 that he will respond to debunk every single thing she said but you know what in politics does that
00:03:26.800 really matter yeah i mean the new paradigm is from the left is to manipulate what you are seeing so that
00:03:33.000 it changes the way you think and behave and they now have a willing partner in the fbi and doing
00:03:37.860 just that so like you can't really blame aoc and her handlers for trying to like recreate reality in
00:03:45.900 the digital world when our own government sees the value hate the game don't hate the player yeah i i
00:03:50.880 reckon so and look she's running for president i mean she's getting ready to run for president in
00:03:55.280 2024 she believes she but it'll be an interesting question regarding her age and whether or not she's
00:04:00.620 eligible eligible i don't think she'll be eligible at the time that she'll be getting votes but by
00:04:05.760 the time she would be sworn in she would be of requisite age and so yeah i think that she uh she
00:04:11.920 would have an opportunity then uh to at least make a constitutional argument for her candidacy but
00:04:16.840 she's getting ready for it hey i'm all for it let's see more the merrier please please bring it on
00:04:21.480 bring on the aoc camp presidency presidential camp i mean you saw this by the way with like uh tulsa
00:04:26.840 gabbard you know ran for president andrew yang uh uh pete budigets right pete budigets goes from being
00:04:33.300 the mayor of from indiana and now he's secretary well occasionally he's the secretary of transportation
00:04:39.420 you know when you know when he finds time right no i i think that it has become a platform and what's
00:04:44.620 interesting is that there is somewhat of an i think a lack of understanding as to how this will go
00:04:50.080 because even if trump has 30 40 of the vote a lot of those early primary states are winner take all
00:04:56.420 right the delegates so by the time a field would coalesce around a trump alternative he's gonna
00:05:01.560 have such a delegate lead i think his path to nomination will be pretty clear i know we're not
00:05:05.620 allowed to advocate on this show we're not we're just analyzing we're analyzing but let's let's talk
00:05:10.300 about some stuff that's happened a little bit closer to uh to to market here because we've got
00:05:16.540 speaker race you've been outspoken uh we've also got the rnc race which i think everyone was kind
00:05:22.120 of sleeping on the rnc race and now all of a sudden harmy dylan gets in she's here you know at the event
00:05:29.140 working meeting the grassroots um say what you want about ronna and by the way like i don't have
00:05:34.980 anything against her personally i really don't think most people do but i don't see her coming to
00:05:41.220 the events and meeting people like i would see a harmy dylan do i just don't see it no ronna mcdaniel
00:05:46.100 is not a leader of a major political party she is a chauffeur for donors and that has allowed her
00:05:52.620 to maintain the position for a requisite period of time but we haven't exactly been winning where we
00:05:58.400 should be winning in all of those cases and whether it's the rnc chair or mitch mcconnell
00:06:02.720 or the speakership like politics is pretty unique isn't it in sports if the coach loses the games
00:06:09.000 they're supposed to win he's out he's gone in business if the ceo misses projected earnings the
00:06:14.720 board replaces them you look at disney they just had a huge great example basically two regime
00:06:19.900 changes so they got rid of uh let's say it's great yeah um and then and then they had what chopra
00:06:26.220 came in and then he gets bounced out and then the other guy comes back in because and he actually
00:06:32.040 gave an interview alluding to the you don't usually hear that in the corporate world where
00:06:36.200 he basically called it you know it was the cfo and the ceo the new ceo just forced him out
00:06:41.680 had no plan went fully woke ran the company into the ground and you saw declining sales in with all
00:06:48.660 the properties across the board and then they finally get rid of the guy now i'm going to point
00:06:52.760 out like but at least that's accountability but it's right some kind of accountability whereas in
00:06:58.480 this room if you put ronna mcdaniel or mitch mcconnell or kevin mccarthy on that stage they'd get
00:07:05.320 booed off of it that's the bottom line they would i could see that and so when you have leaders in
00:07:10.200 that being said though i could also point out that if ronna mcdaniel were walking around here
00:07:14.420 i don't think people would recognize it i really don't think and and that is because she views the
00:07:21.340 role of the party to facilitate contracts with vendors and donations from donors and like if ronna
00:07:28.280 mcdaniel had spent the money she spent promoting her podcast on enhancing the skill stack of our
00:07:34.200 activist she has a podcast she does actually rnc donors because i had no idea that she had a
00:07:40.940 podcast until you just said that it is quite something and i and i i'm in the podcast space
00:07:46.320 i'm looking at the charts well yeah yeah you don't know that she has one because she's nowhere near
00:07:50.140 where you are on the charts and it's but even still i i keep an eye on who runs podcasts i had no
00:07:55.400 idea she was doing podcasts this is the problem they are focused exclusively on why people vote and they
00:08:02.000 are ignoring how voting occurs yes and we need to do so much more to have real-time quick reaction
00:08:08.300 responses we're getting we're getting photobombed over here oh what's up lauren bober the most
00:08:12.720 beautiful photobomb outside of tanya tay yes congresswoman bobert and my wife brick suit
00:08:19.060 terrific he is he is looking good these days isn't brick's here the brick's here aren't you
00:08:23.360 come here come here so they can see it no wait stand right here so you're on camera
00:08:26.180 he's looking good isn't he looking good i i i like the hat i like the cash look if we didn't
00:08:32.320 plan this folks we literally did not that's what we're talking about but but on the harmy
00:08:35.740 dilhan point don't we need people with keen legal skills for the battle we are facing right now
00:08:41.920 when i okay i'll watch and i'm not going to name names i'm not going to talk about sean
00:08:48.500 hannity like that but when i hear people complain about mark elias oh it's terrible what he's doing
00:08:54.560 is so bad but it's awful it's it's ridiculous i look at that and maybe it's because i have a
00:09:00.060 military background but when i see the adversary come up with a new capability then my mind it
00:09:06.180 doesn't go to oh i should complain about the capability it's okay how do we defeat that how
00:09:11.260 do we maintain one of our own how do we counter it and i don't hear a lot of that from most of the
00:09:17.660 mainstream pundits well i have so many activists come up to me to say you know what give me a territory
00:09:23.080 where i can go and hunt down ballots when they have not been returned give me the church group
00:09:28.580 to go to on wednesday night to drive that bus during early voting and the rnc doesn't function
00:09:34.340 as a way to really bring those operational forces together and to put them into the battle we are
00:09:39.740 actually in think about how the left does this they vertically integrate their election strategy
00:09:44.360 like they know in maricopa county who the duty judge is going to be when you go file your
00:09:50.780 injunction because they set that stuff up in advance meanwhile we complain that people are
00:09:56.400 going to steal elections from us we watch like kind of crazy bizarre things happen on election
00:10:00.900 day like voting machines not working and then afterwards we act like these lawsuits are going
00:10:05.740 to save us gosh darn they did it again yeah but they aren't going to you have to catch them
00:10:10.440 in the act yes and i am here to try to really proliferate some of the ideas we used in florida
00:10:16.020 to fix this because i remember when we were the laughingstock of the country in florida
00:10:20.600 yeah we we got paper ballots so paper ballots but then the key is real-time transparency on how many
00:10:27.940 votes have been cast in florida you can go to the website and see every eight minutes how many votes
00:10:33.240 have been cast at every precinct through every methodology and what party affiliation has been
00:10:38.820 reflected in the casting of those ballots now is this also because and i hear richard barris talk about
00:10:43.440 this a lot there's there was a new law that was passed for deadlines so that you actually impose
00:10:49.400 and enforce deadlines on all of these counties on all regardless of what party runs the county etc
00:10:55.440 that they all have to meet these deadlines yes that's why i see it's as gigantic as florida
00:11:00.300 we know the answer in minutes well and because there are real-time remedies you see in arizona the theory
00:11:06.500 that we're going to wait until weeks after election day has passed and then somehow go file some silver
00:11:11.260 bullet lawsuit i think is inaccurate and it does not comport with what we've seen in the jurisprudence
00:11:16.940 it's also to your point before and really the overarching frame maybe 30 years ago 40 years ago
00:11:23.420 that would have made sense um you hear people talk about you know civil war era elections and things like
00:11:29.440 that it just hasn't been like that in a long time well no and in florida when those deadlines are
00:11:35.040 blown when transparency requirements aren't being met you can walk into the judge that day and seek
00:11:40.940 redress to put a local supervisor of elections office into receivership wow that day where you
00:11:46.840 don't have to have any messing around you also need people with guts who will fire the folks who don't
00:11:51.940 run clean elections like we hold the governorship in georgia and yet they allow in fulton county a system
00:11:58.220 that is unlike anywhere else in the state regarding how the ballots are handled what the chain of custody is
00:12:03.600 and we have to have the courage to be called every bad name under the book but to demand
00:12:09.240 actual compliance with the law and here's on on that note by the way they're gonna say it anyway
00:12:15.020 when when mitch mcconnell stood there and met with it was i believe it was the families of the
00:12:22.240 capitol police that and they were handing out those medals and they refused to shake his hand it it dude
00:12:28.580 you can throw them all under the bus you can say i disavow i condemn in the strongest terms possible
00:12:35.300 this rhetoric and this person and condemn that person and condemn whoever you want they're still
00:12:39.920 going to put all conservatives in that bucket they're just going to do it and to the point where
00:12:44.040 i'm handing you a medal and you won't even shake somebody's hand just a basic act of respect that i've
00:12:49.500 met dirtbag left-wing you know quote-unquote journalists and i'll shake their hand i'll at least be polite
00:12:55.020 because you know from public whatever and they will not do that so all right if that's the system
00:13:01.120 that's the system but you've just cut to the principal discussion that we are having at this
00:13:06.240 conference do we need to realize we've won the debate regarding what policies are going to improve
00:13:12.580 quality of life for people on the border with spending policy we've won the debate but people
00:13:17.520 don't hear us because big tech blocks us so we have to take strong action there because elections
00:13:22.840 have lower confidence levels than ever before because we see these irregularities that seem to
00:13:28.460 never really get explained and so i think we need to fight a lot tougher i don't think we need to
00:13:33.320 moderate the message well and and and that kind of gets it cuts into all of these races that we're
00:13:39.400 talking about and all these positions within the party whether it's speaker whether it's rnc
00:13:43.280 you need somebody that's actually going to be on the field of battle and looking at it that way
00:13:48.420 the whole i mean we all hear those stories about tip o'neill and reagan going to get a drink or
00:13:53.900 whatever um daschle back in the day but that's been gone for a long time and you're you're on the
00:14:00.140 hill every day i mean there's some there's some stuff you know that's that's that's cross aisle but
00:14:06.000 it's it's few and far between it really is well and look there are opportunities for the populist
00:14:10.920 right and the populist left to work together true against the corrupt establishment and i am willing
00:14:16.500 to engage in those discussions even if some on the left aren't willing to engage here the squad
00:14:20.720 when i see aoc and she came out and ilhan omar and to leave and all of them where they will talk
00:14:27.560 all day long about selling weapons overseas and they'll talk about saudi arabia they'll talk about
00:14:33.140 yemen they'll talk about israel they'll talk about every country on the sun but when it comes to ukraine
00:14:38.100 where are they i mean they've become the nato where are they right i mean it was amazing to watch
00:14:43.520 the squad go from believing that the military was racist to them supporting global military
00:14:48.600 and it was like i thought that was one spot where i could see like i remember i think i tweeted this
00:14:55.640 at one point and i'm like i could see a congressman matt gates and a congresswoman aoc uniting over this
00:15:01.000 because they were they were putting out all this all this talk all this rhetoric talking all this
00:15:05.820 smack that they're pro america against the military industrial complex um ilhan omar every once in a
00:15:11.360 while we'll have like a good tweet kind of in that in that vein but when it comes to the votes it ain't
00:15:15.800 there well it'll be interesting to see when they move to the minority will we actually get some
00:15:21.140 cooperation out of the populist left on foreign policy because in the majority they just sort of
00:15:26.320 stuck together for the sake of sticking together okay and i think that they sell sold out their own
00:15:31.100 values so they may have a renaissance which well which led to aoc having her a little uh the little
00:15:35.980 town hall uh moments that she had where i mean i forget who the guy it was like some larouche guys
00:15:41.760 or something but they were running in screaming about you're putting us into nuclear war aoc you
00:15:46.020 sold us out you were you know you and then she's up there can hey essay come on all of a sudden you
00:15:53.740 know uh that code switching they call that code switching by the way um i'm from philly so we can do
00:15:58.640 that um but it it's like no they're actually making a good point but you you promised a lot
00:16:04.580 of things and you didn't hold up on that whereas i can think i can remember because i have pretty
00:16:09.580 good memory for this stuff all of the stuff that you've promised people who you're not going to take
00:16:13.740 money from stances you'll take on military spending stances you'll take on expanding ndas etc etc
00:16:19.000 and i've always seen you vote those ways well look i think that what is the binder for the
00:16:25.060 corruption in washington is the lobbyist in special interest money yeah you know and like it it's
00:16:30.200 almost so obvious that you don't have to say it but like when these members go take hundreds of
00:16:35.660 thousands of dollars millions of dollars from these special interests and then look their
00:16:40.000 constituents in the eye and say that it does not affect how they vote they're being dishonest and it
00:16:44.280 happens on both sides and i don't take any money from any lobbyists or any federal packs because i don't
00:16:50.740 want my constituents to wonder if that's actually who i work for and you know that movement has been
00:16:55.940 embraced by mtg it's been embraced by ted cruz i think you may see some of the new members try to
00:17:02.000 liberate themselves from lobbyists and special interest money and if we do that maybe we won't need
00:17:07.880 500 million dollars to go and underperform in a midterm if our ideas are better if we don't sell out
00:17:15.080 but you know what all these people want to go vote for kevin mccarthy for speaker their leading
00:17:19.580 argument is well look at all the money he raises for us and maybe that like argument worked in the
00:17:24.680 90s or the early 2000s but i don't think selling shares of yourself to k street is some ultimate
00:17:31.060 qualifier for the speakership if anything it ought to be a disqualifier for it because the moment he
00:17:35.800 were to get a hold of that gavel he'd be looking to fulfill the commitments that he made to the donors
00:17:41.100 not to the representatives and certainly not to the voters who see through his grift when it comes to
00:17:47.840 the question and this this is big for me and and i i've i've every time i get asked you know by
00:17:53.860 anybody when i get one of those phone calls and they say what is she do you care about pozo what's
00:17:57.920 the main thing you you know when you're catholic is it pro-life um where is it marriage questions and
00:18:04.100 i said look the way i look at this stuff is there there's all the issues that i care about personally
00:18:10.340 that are that make me want to made me want to get into the game or whatever but if i can't speak
00:18:16.860 about those issues then it don't matter and so i said i just need tech and and i'll say look i
00:18:23.800 appreciate elon muster everything that he's done but at the same time there's a part of me that says
00:18:28.500 well aren't i don't i still just exist at the whim of a billionaire right that that's why i have not
00:18:34.200 like celebrated the elon thing as if it's caesar returning from gaul yeah because we should not have
00:18:39.940 a system that relies didn't work out great for season right but it it may it may not work out
00:18:44.900 great for elon by the end of it i mean we see the regime definitely turning against him with every
00:18:48.800 tool that they have and that's going to continue but like we should not rely on the whims of
00:18:53.500 billionaires to be able to vindicate the values that are essential to american discourse and the
00:18:59.080 preservation of the republic and if we do rely on that the left will win more than we do
00:19:03.240 and everyone's like this is this is like a an anomaly right this is not usually the way these
00:19:08.000 things go and it's great but you talked about the issue matrix and i'm going to put you on the spot
00:19:12.200 because right now we are having these real-time deliberations in the house judiciary committee
00:19:16.420 what is your first hearing who are your first witness panels and with what's going on on the border
00:19:22.180 right now in title 42 and the tens of thousands that are invading there are a lot of people really
00:19:28.540 wanting to get that uh border argument front and center but i almost think maybe the first witness
00:19:33.220 should be elon maybe the first witness should be elon elon elon with documents elon with a huge stack
00:19:42.860 of like slack messages and emails and i mean when you i'm just gonna say it when you check the box
00:19:51.380 to sign into twitter and it says specifically anything you post on this anything you post on this
00:19:58.080 site any communication uh that you give up your rights to be able to see that includes dms
00:20:03.340 so elon musk actually purchased the dms of every journalist that has a twitter account and no i'm not
00:20:11.700 saying that you know the new congress should go and subpoena any of that but what i am pointing out
00:20:16.480 is that we have to look at twitter and i've said that steve and i are going back and forth over who said
00:20:22.180 this first about twitter being a crime scene but the amount of and i think again i always think of
00:20:27.700 this stuff as an intel officer what's the collection ability to us that elon you open that door and all
00:20:34.140 of a sudden if i can think of all right let's actually talk about the operations that were being
00:20:38.020 run on twitter let's see who was telling these journalists to print the you know a story about
00:20:43.720 russia gay or plan a story about matt gates a plan a story about jack whoever um let's look at all
00:20:48.540 these things that may have affected elections i remember when jake tapper told the new york post
00:20:53.480 to delete their tweets yes about the hunter biden laptop who was he talking to in that time period
00:20:59.460 was there anyone that suggested that to him do they have ties to foreign governments do they have
00:21:03.140 ties to the intel committee i'd love to know that right well and there'll be pattern recognition in
00:21:07.220 that exercise yes because it ain't just going on at twitter they're pulling the same at google
00:21:11.740 it's all over and when there is a york that every single one of these organizations you want to
00:21:17.720 talk about a guy that was just a patsy this is i mean he'd be the first guy at target come on
00:21:22.940 well and and you will see things manifest at meta at google amazon other places that we're going to
00:21:30.460 discover through the twitter investigations because one thing we know about the national security state
00:21:34.580 they're not creative enough to run different ops into those no so the fbi they finished their twitter
00:21:39.960 video or they're doing a zoom call with twitter they hang that up and then they call facebook
00:21:44.160 and then they call google and then they call amazon and then they call the whoever right
00:21:48.180 well elvis chan yes did not think of this on his own at the fbi you know he was the fbi point of
00:21:54.340 contact for a lot of these twitter meetings but we're going to find out from elvis chan who placed
00:21:59.780 the order who made the call that this was now a national strategy to try to fuse big government big
00:22:05.920 media and big tech against the american people which and i've got to say it that you know again
00:22:10.060 not advocating but when when president trump came out and gave that policy speech last week
00:22:16.340 again policy talking about defunding the entire i call it the disinformation archipelago any organization
00:22:23.620 that receives federal funding any organization that which includes by the way stanford harvard all these
00:22:29.560 universities that has any tie whatsoever to the censorship of freedom of speech or any government
00:22:35.480 agency that's involved in it i i thought it was pitch perfect i really thought it was the best
00:22:40.480 speech and you know people were complaining about the nft thing etc because it came out on the same
00:22:44.740 day but if you actually just go back and watch that speech i don't think i've heard anyone at that level
00:22:50.860 talk like you know like it was basically one of like something i would say yeah and i don't think
00:22:55.900 that the american people realize that they are funding this offense against themselves yeah and that's
00:23:01.300 what president trump exposed and the one thing we've always got to give to president trump he
00:23:05.360 causes people to expose themselves that's right and it might be as great a superpower it's it's it's
00:23:11.300 right left center whatever he reveals you and then he always people say he's a counter puncher and
00:23:16.780 that's true but he always kind of gets his his opponents to like blow themselves off yes and then
00:23:22.660 they he drives them nuts then they implode and then he wins kind of by default because so another big
00:23:27.640 debate and i know i'm interviewing you now but another big debate that we're having in dealing
00:23:32.000 with big tech is do you treat them a lot like the tobacco companies where you like strip their
00:23:37.260 defenses and send the trial lawyers after them do you treat them like public utilities and regulate
00:23:43.020 them or do you just break them up i mean like we did bell south some say you have to totally like
00:23:47.980 if you have not forced meta to break up if you have not forced google to get out of both the email
00:23:53.620 search business you have not right so here's i i mean it it if you break them up it just it just
00:24:01.860 shifts the problem into one big problem into a bunch of little problems i don't think it actually
00:24:06.600 solves the the case it doesn't get you where you need to go um that being i mean what did they say
00:24:12.620 about you know if thousands of tyrants nearby instead of one time right far away right ocean away
00:24:17.600 yeah in in china they say uh uh the the the mountain is high and the and beijing is far away
00:24:23.180 um but it's it's also the idea of it's a because we have to fundamentally look at these as different
00:24:30.480 than we would look at any other they're not so would you regulate them like public utilities that's
00:24:34.860 that's what i'd lean towards um but because it reminds me of the railroad argument that there
00:24:40.020 weren't there was nothing like a railroad before there were railroads and so we had to come up with
00:24:45.100 the new way of thinking uh in terms of how these things operated when i look at this i think about
00:24:51.860 my kid right i think about my four-year-old he will there will be no fundamental four-year-old gets a
00:24:56.700 lot of play on human events i know right but but but think about it right because because i think
00:25:00.780 about him and then i pop it out and then and this will we'll end on this but he will have no
00:25:05.960 fundamental difference in in his life between picking up the phone and calling someone versus hitting
00:25:13.840 up somebody on on you know social media versus facetiming somebody to him it's all the same
00:25:20.060 thing to him it's all the exact same thing and it's it is communication and so whether that fits
00:25:27.140 the framework of public utility the way we think about it should be the way that we think about
00:25:32.420 interactive communications i'd break them off we'll have to have another episode that we devote to this
00:25:37.860 i don't think it's either it has to be one you know one or the other either yeah i i just don't
00:25:42.240 think that the section 230 reform is sufficient it may be necessary but not sufficient because uh look
00:25:49.740 you need a full-on declaration right right well a doctrine really a doctrine about about you know
00:25:55.380 whether or not cancellation from the digital world is just going to be something that we leave to the
00:26:00.720 terms of service and i think i think you do that in terms of digital bill of rights you do that in
00:26:05.140 terms of data portability data portability your data i should own my data if my digital footprint
00:26:11.260 i should own the rights to that the same way that i own the rights to my own likeness to my own self
00:26:15.260 everything else well they call kevin mccarthy big tech's best friend so if i can stop him from being
00:26:20.360 speaker maybe we can uh debate these issues oh kevin uh-oh fire words over here all right i think
00:26:26.580 that's just about all the time we have congressman gates thank you so much appreciate it almost called
00:26:31.220 congressman jordan again but i figured i'd give him a cap oh hey you know i'm the robin to jordan's
00:26:35.300 batman the robin jordan's batman okay all right not asian gary though right no i've seen the meme
00:26:42.900 thank you very much ladies and gentlemen as always you have my permission to lay a short