Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 358： THE WAR ON RELIGION WITH ERIC METAXAS

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00:00:03.000 Visit the Human Events Daily with our AmericaFest Special. We're continuing the

00:00:17.180 series. And I do have to apologize to the audience because unfortunately, we have Eric

00:00:20.920 Metaxas back on.

00:00:21.920 I apologize in advance for being who I am.

00:00:24.200 I'm very sorry. The host of the AmericaFest

00:00:26.260 show. We were going to have somebody else. They canceled. Yeah. You know, we needed somebody

00:00:31.580 and Eric was around and he barged his way in and you know, he said he would, it would

00:00:35.460 tie me up as a whole thing. So I said, fine, we'll have him on again.

00:00:39.440 What? The last episode we did is atheism dead. We have so many great reviews, so many comments 0.97

00:00:46.880 and the, the question that I want to come up with though, because I think we also have

00:00:53.700 to get into the meta sense of why you wrote the book and, and, and also letter to American

00:00:59.620 church because the real issue I think that we face as believers, as Christians in our

00:01:06.120 country today. And I want to pose the question to you and frame this as, is there a war on

00:01:11.620 Christians today in the West? Um, yes and no. Okay. Ultimately it is a war on God. Wow. 1.00

00:01:20.860 Uh, what we're seeing right now, um, is, I mean, if you, if you think about it, no matter

00:01:28.420 where you look, uh, when you see genuine atheism, okay, atheism is at war with God. It has this

00:01:35.180 preposterous utopianist plan to make everything better. If we can just get rid of God, if we

00:01:42.380 can just remake everything, what it really means to do is to unmake God's reality. So everything

00:01:51.860 that God has put in order, the family, uh, men and women, whatever it is, even beauty and goodness,

00:02:00.500 um, these people are wittingly or unwittingly depending on where they're coming from at war

00:02:07.040 with these things. So, I mean, look, you see it in 20th century art, right? A war on beauty.

00:02:13.940 Now we're going to make ugly things and we're going to tell you, we tell you that they're

00:02:17.540 beautiful and we're going to make ugly, um, skyscrapers and brutalist architecture that

00:02:23.380 everybody's going to want to gag at, but we're going to tell you, no, no, no, no. If you're

00:02:26.580 sophisticated, you'll think it's good. Right. Right. Or my favorite are the, uh, the, uh, the

00:02:31.820 modernist art, the paintings, which is all just money laundering. And I say that beyond

00:02:35.320 Hunter Biden, that's that, you know, a big, uh, swath of blue across a pallet. Right.

00:02:41.180 And it's, Oh, it's the, it represents man's search for meaning. Yeah. No, it's just blue

00:02:46.040 on a canvas search for a book. Yeah, exactly. Basically. But I'm saying this is the history

00:02:50.880 of the 20th century, everything beautiful and accessible, beautiful poetry. I mean, the poetry

00:02:56.140 of long fellow, the poetry going through the ages, all of that in the 20th century, uh, the

00:03:01.520 elites basically said, no, it's too pretty and it's too accessible. We want to do

00:03:06.800 arcane, difficult, ugly things. We want to create poetry that no one will ever read

00:03:13.020 except us and our five friends. And in a sense, that's the history. I mean, we're, we're

00:03:18.200 only talking about beauty right now, but it is a war ultimately on God. When God says

00:03:23.480 something is beautiful, representational art. God, I mean, notice there's nothing tacky

00:03:28.040 in nature. Okay. Everything in nature, uh, is either beautiful or awesome or whatever,

00:03:34.360 but only human beings can create things that are tacky.

00:03:37.320 And you actually, you actually bring this out in the book a little too, because we point

00:03:41.160 out that, uh, what is the purpose of beauty? How do you define beauty? How do you, uh, you,

00:03:47.080 what is the evolutionary, you know, uh, developed purpose? It makes no sense.

00:03:51.320 That's, I mean, ultimately what I say in my book is atheism dead and, and, you know,

00:03:56.160 in a number of things, but I, I talk about the idea that everything that is good and true

00:04:01.440 and beautiful is of God and points to God, whether you know it or not. So when you look

00:04:06.700 at a sunset, you don't say, Oh, that's a Christian sunset. But the point is you're moved to tears

00:04:11.320 or you're moved to something.

00:04:13.320 That's right. You're moved by something beautiful. Why are you moved now? The, the, uh, strict

00:04:19.640 atheist, uh, blind Darwinian evolutionists who believes in only in the natural, uh, he believes

00:04:25.560 in materialism. He basically says, there's no such thing as beauty. There's no such thing

00:04:30.280 as truth. There's no such thing as love. So whatever you feel is just some chemicals in

00:04:35.320 your body, a biochemical reaction, a dopamine release, right. You know, has, has selected for

00:04:41.400 you to be moved by these things or something, but also, but why? Well, well, what's the

00:04:44.760 evolutionary answer? It gets, it gets the bigger stuff. So the bottom line is most people know

00:04:49.720 that's garbage. Most people know that I see something beautiful and I weep. If I hear beautiful 0.99

00:04:54.280 music and I weep, it points to something holy and sacred. We're made in God's image. We're made

00:05:01.480 for eternity. We're made to be with him in a world of beauty and truth and goodness. And so everything

00:05:07.800 in the world points to that. So the Marxist atheists, the materialists, they basically say, no, no, no,

00:05:13.400 we can't have that. So we're going to unmake anything good and beautiful and true. So the family,

00:05:18.360 the love that a husband and wife have for each other, uh, the beauty, uh, of, of, of the family,

00:05:24.520 the beauty of a nation of natural, natural, national cultures, all of that stuff. They are at war

00:05:31.320 with that. They want to deconstruct it. They want to strip it down and break it down. When you get to

00:05:35.560 critical race theory, when you get to transgender madness, all of these things at their heart are a 1.00

00:05:42.120 war on God's reality. There's a, there's a, a, a fun, uh, experiment you can run on social media.

00:05:49.000 I'm constantly running experiments on social media as one of my favorite things about social media is

00:05:53.640 that you, you can find a picture to find some picture, whether it's, you know, if it's my family,

00:05:59.080 I'll, I'll post it or you're, you know, if you, or if it doesn't be a stock photo, uh, you know,

00:06:03.640 just a, a well-dressed family, um, mom, dad, two kids, you know, walking into a church and just post

00:06:11.640 it up on social media, no commentary and wait, wait for the comments to come in and you will get,

00:06:18.360 I guarantee you every time I've done this, you always get the comment. Oh, well, he probably beats

00:06:23.480 his wife. Right. And it's, this is, this is a trained pathological Pavlovian response to this,

00:06:33.080 that they have to find some way to deconstruct and deny that an image of a totally normalized,

00:06:42.280 homogenous relationship, uh, heterosexual relationship, a godly relationship would,

00:06:48.840 would, would occur, would exist. They have to find some way to, uh, rob it of its validity.

00:06:55.560 No, that's, that's, that's, that's beautiful. This is why I love you. Cause we kind of think

00:06:59.480 like what you just said, I have actually said this, I've never heard anyone say this before, but

00:07:04.200 the narrative. Okay. Now let's think about it. It's kind of like the Howard's in America.

00:07:07.560 Cause they have to find something wrong. It's very Howard's in.

00:07:09.240 It's the Howard's in narrative of America, but applied to everything where you basically say,

00:07:13.720 what would the devil say? The devil would say, oh yeah, you probably don't know. He beats his wife. 1.00

00:07:18.360 You know, so what we've noticed in 20th century pop culture. Okay. And this basically came in

00:07:24.120 in the fifties and then the sixties is to deconstruct everything to say, yes, there are no heroes. 0.85

00:07:29.560 Everybody's a bum. Now, biblically we can say, yes, everyone's a sinner, but then we also know that 0.99

00:07:35.480 God has created us in his image. He wants to redeem what's broken, but they give you this hopeless

00:07:41.480 narrative that basically says every husband who loves his wife, whatever, like we know the

00:07:48.120 real story. The real story is he beats his wife or he's cheating with her. He's cheating on her,

00:07:53.560 probably with a guy. They have to corrode what is beautiful, but they have so successfully sold that

00:08:01.800 narrative. Okay. And especially in elite culture, which is filtered down through pop culture so that

00:08:07.560 when you see something beautiful, even we kind of, it's almost like we've been trained to think of

00:08:13.960 what's the negative thing hiding behind the beautiful thing. What's the, you know, that's right.

00:08:17.800 And so I realized when I got married 26 years ago, when we had my daughter 23 years ago, I re I said,

00:08:27.480 I've lived in a world that has not sung the praises of marriage. Marriage is a glorious thing.

00:08:33.720 No, even at its worst, it's a glorious thing. Even the best marriages are difficult and it's worth it.

00:08:38.680 It's beautiful and amazing. I haven't heard that narrative. I've always heard the narrative that

00:08:43.000 marriage is a prison, you know, the ball and chain, whatever it is, right. Children, 0.92

00:08:50.120 greatest thing imaginable. Oh, life is your life is over now, buddy. And all you hear about

00:08:56.760 is how you, you're not going to be able to actualize yourself. You're not going to be out of an amazing

00:09:00.760 career and do all the great things, whatever. Listen, the decades have passed. And I look at the people

00:09:06.040 that bought that lie. They're alone. They missed the opportunity to have a family. These lies,

00:09:12.520 these pernicious lies have been in the culture for decades. We, we talked about this, um, on the show

00:09:18.600 about, uh, uh, before, but the founder and, and our, our, our, uh, uh, my colleague, Alex Clark of,

00:09:24.760 of politics and spillover here at turning point USA. Um, we did an episode talking about how the founder

00:09:30.360 of the show, sex in the city, um, actually came out and admitted that she regretted not being

00:09:39.080 married and she regretted not having kids and sex in the city was the show. Yeah. No, 0.91

00:09:44.040 they've been selling these lies. It's not the only one, but the most obvious one that sold this idea

00:09:50.680 of go to the city, get your job versus if you watch a hallmark movie and this is why I'm an unabashed

00:09:56.680 supporter of hallmark because every hallmark movie is the exact opposite of sex in the city.

00:10:01.960 No, look, sex in the city. So, I mean, these things are so pernicious and so evil. 0.88

00:10:06.040 They sold the lie that women can have unattached sex, just like the pig guys have been doing since 1.00

00:10:15.560 Hefner has been selling that lie to the guys. It is destructive to every man, to every woman, 0.99

00:10:21.640 but they sold this. They used everything they had to sell this to the culture.

00:10:25.640 How many people have bought this lie? And so when you say is there a war on Christians,

00:10:29.400 there's a war on God's values because God's values bless people. God's values, you know,

00:10:35.320 in my book, Letter to the American Church, I talk about how the church is supposed to be active and

00:10:41.080 we're supposed to bring our values into the public sphere, into politics everywhere. Why? Because it will

00:10:48.040 bless people. Christians believe slavery is wrong. So we bring that value that human beings are sacred

00:10:54.360 and we bring about the abolition of the slave trade, thanks to William Wilberforce and all

00:10:58.040 those heroes. The abolition of slavery. We think racism is wrong. So the Jim Crow laws were abolished

00:11:04.760 through the churches. In other words, if you believe in what God believes, people will get

00:11:09.000 blessed, not just the church. Everyone will get blessed. You'll have more freedom in America.

00:11:14.040 Well, there's the kingship of Jesus Christ extends beyond the church. Amen. It's called truth and

00:11:21.480 reality. Right. So it's not. And this is why also that, you know, you know, if you're following an

00:11:27.240 ideology that doesn't, um, I got into a debate earlier today, uh, online where as, as, you know,

00:11:33.160 as you, as I, I suggest everyone to get into an online debate, at least once a day, it's certainly the

00:11:37.800 best way to share your time. And, um, but someone said is, is religion and ideology? And I said, no.

00:11:44.040 And I said, religion is ideology is, there are the ways that we try to, we try to define reality itself,

00:11:52.920 but religion is it's called reality. The truth and reality are not an ideology and the worship of the

00:11:58.760 creator. So ideology is the way that we, perhaps we try to understand it, reflect it, express it,

00:12:05.240 but to, to equate worship of the creator with some mundane political or economic ideologies,

00:12:11.720 no, no, you're totally missing. I mean, look, there are people, Christians,

00:12:14.920 who have the ideology. There's no doubt about it. And that, but that is a non-believers take

00:12:19.800 on religion. Right. No, I, I think the reason I wrote the book is atheism dead, uh, you know,

00:12:26.440 and, and my, and the new book letter to the American church in a way, uh, is to say the opposite of

00:12:32.840 that to say that what we're dealing with here is incontrovertible reality. God stacked the deck,

00:12:40.120 the house always wins. He invented this universe. He invented all of reality. It all points to him.

00:12:47.320 You can only kick against those goats for so long before you lose, because there is no way for a man 1.00

00:12:54.440 to become a woman for a woman to become a man. There is no way to create some utopianist atheistic world. 0.81

00:13:01.000 It all, the, these lies can only be sold for so long and then they fall apart because they are

00:13:05.640 at war with reality itself. And so I'm, I'm simply convinced that it's less, you know, my, my project

00:13:12.040 is less to convert people to Christian faith and to reality because all reality points to the God of

00:13:17.480 the Bible. Uh, and, and if you care about truth, there's no way you're going to go in any other

00:13:24.120 direction. And, and so I really do think that sign in the book is atheism dead. When I talk about

00:13:29.720 science, I think to myself, you know, for a while, some people sold the lie that science is at war

00:13:35.960 with faith. So you can get away with that for a while, but eventually if you continue to do science,

00:13:41.000 science begins to point to the idea that, oh yeah, there's an intelligent designer who created all

00:13:46.600 this. And the more science you learn, the more obvious it becomes. It's not kind of like, well,

00:13:51.080 the evidence is pointing, you know, this is overwhelming. And we had, um, we've done, and I've,

00:13:56.920 I've, I've done interviews with, uh, Ben Stein is coming back around again and he was, he was

00:14:01.960 canceled before we had the word canceled. Uh, he was sort of the proto canceled guy because he did

00:14:08.840 a documentary about intelligent design and the war on intelligent design. Um, and Adam Carolla was in,

00:14:15.000 it's a great documentary. It was called expelled and it was, it's amazing.

00:14:18.440 He was blacklisted. His career was over at that point. Think about that. Think about why would

00:14:23.240 they, why would they, I mean, you kind of say if people really care about the truth,

00:14:28.360 they would look into it or they would say, well, he has a point of view. I have this point of view,

00:14:31.880 but they are so now we can use the word triggered, right? They're so horrified by the implications.

00:14:38.360 Well, and here's, here's, here's the trouble for them now is that the people who blacklisted him

00:14:44.440 and the new atheists and all of this, you can go around now. And when you talk about intelligent

00:14:51.400 design, suddenly people start listening. Yeah. Suddenly people that, that is not a, a, a, a,

00:14:57.240 you know, a dirty word anymore. It's not, you know, when, and when I hear, and look, and I'm just

00:15:02.280 going to say it when I hear Elon Musk and these guys in the futurist talk about, uh, the simulation

00:15:06.920 theory, I said, see the simulation there. Well, this is just St. Paul. You're just, you're, you're

00:15:11.800 just, I mean, this has worked out 2000 years ago, man. You're, you're just bringing that stuff again

00:15:16.760 because you know, intuitively that there is something more. There is, we have the fine tune

00:15:22.200 universe that it doesn't quite work with the, the Darwinian model. There's too much that fits

00:15:30.520 together. There's too much we've learned since the 1800s that you have to come up, you have to come

00:15:36.040 to a designer. Now, now the, the, the humanists, right. They don't call themselves, they do the

00:15:40.600 same word. They call themselves humanists. Yeah. They won't admit God, but they'll throw in some

00:15:44.200 kind of alien or they'll say, you know, there's a weird computer program. Yeah. But even, even then

00:15:50.680 I'll sit there and say, well, to extend your analogy out, uh, an algorithm or that provides

00:15:58.520 for free. Well, is that any different than a soul? No, of course not. It's the same.

00:16:02.520 It's called sophistry. They're playing games because they don't want to lose the argument.

00:16:08.040 So they kind of switch the subject or say that the reality is that, and again, I, we were talking

00:16:12.600 about my book is atheism dead. I, I was astonished. There's no other word astonished at the evidence

00:16:19.240 for God from science. I grew up in a world where that wasn't even conceivable. Like I thought to

00:16:24.280 myself, we'll always have problems. There's going to be science and faith and science. The more we know

00:16:30.280 from science, the more it points to God. I mean, this is simple fact. I mean, if you only read my

00:16:35.800 book, you're going to get, you're going to get the highlights, but the point is if you start reading

00:16:38.440 more widely, you're going to say, how does everyone not know this, that science in the last few decades

00:16:44.840 has effectively proved that an intelligent designer created the universe, this planet, human life,

00:16:52.520 like there's really no other plausible solution. Now you might not like it, but you've got to deal with it.

00:16:57.960 And, and a lot of these folks, they don't want to deal with it because it makes them uncomfortable.

00:17:01.240 No, I think, I think if, if, if Christianity is at war, it's winning, I think it's winning. I think 0.99

00:17:06.840 God is winning. I mean, he's already won in a sense, but it, it, in the early days of science,

00:17:13.640 and this is what's so bizarre to me that if you had anything about the history of science itself and

00:17:18.360 the way we do science, Oh my gosh, that there wasn't even any idea that this would be a conflict.

00:17:25.240 In fact, science and theology were, were sort of considered the same thing.

00:17:30.920 I actually forgot. I literally forgot a part of my own book and the book is atheism dead. Part of it,

00:17:35.960 I deal with the fact that it was specifically Christian theology that led to what we call

00:17:43.800 modern science and the scientific revolution. Now let's think about that. It was specifically

00:17:48.200 Christian theology. And in the book, of course, I explain why, but so it didn't just kind of emerge.

00:17:52.600 And we buy this lie that like, it was Galileo versus the church, right? Nonsense. It was

00:17:57.800 believing Christians. It's really more Galileo versus Aristotle, by the way. 0.80

00:18:01.320 Thank you. I also talked about that in the book. It was absolutely believing Christians

00:18:06.040 who understood that the universe is ordered, it's created with order, and that we can probably find

00:18:11.640 out more if we study it. There was not only no conflict between faith and science, but it was

00:18:19.160 faith in Christ that led to science. It's science from faith.

00:18:23.480 It's, it's in a, but I mean, you know, you talk about something that almost no one knows. We live

00:18:27.720 in a world where people say, well, that can't be, that is true. And it, to understand it, it, that even,

00:18:35.240 and it's, it's amazing because, you know, you, you, you're, you're Punnett squares and modern

00:18:39.080 genetics. Well, that comes from Gregor Mendel. Yeah.

00:18:41.720 Uh, the big bang theory comes from a Belgian priest. Yeah. Um, who later is, is Robert,

00:18:47.720 you know, basically is, is stamped and approved by Hubble. Uh, you know, these, all of these

00:18:53.160 theories, and these are recent new, um, Francis Collins, who I have issues with. I got big issues

00:18:59.720 with Francis Collins, but I will give him credit for the human genome project. And has always said

00:19:04.280 that, that his science made him more of a believer. I wish he was a stronger Christian. I will, but that's

00:19:09.800 a whole, we don't want to get into that. It's a whole nother podcast against you right now,

00:19:13.720 but I mean, I will make the point there and I'll throw his name out because of that accomplishment

00:19:17.080 was real. Right. Um, which I do think that he then, then turned and used the good will for that

00:19:21.480 for, for bad form. Right. But again and again and again, and I'm, I, this is something, by the way, my,

00:19:29.160 I don't talk about this that much, but I might as well just say it. Uh, so my mom

00:19:32.760 was a, before she retired, she was a microbiologist her whole life for 40 years. Whoa. And she 0.67

00:19:38.520 is a devout Catholic and has never, never once in her life considered anything other

00:19:46.840 than in all of the science she did, the studies, the interaction. And she studied the reproductive

00:19:51.480 cycle, um, is specifically what she focused her, her work on and, uh, never once occurred to her

00:19:59.800 that the things that she was studying and things that she was learning were in any way in conflict

00:20:04.360 with her faith. I mean, look, the, the more, you know, if you're honest, the more you study

00:20:09.080 the human body, uh, anything in science, the more you come to the conclusion that there is no way

00:20:17.720 this just happened through random forces, through the processes of blind evolution.

00:20:22.040 A tornado in a junkyard, right? There is no way if you're honest, but if you're,

00:20:26.040 if you are an ideologue and you say, no, no, no, I don't believe in God. I've never, you,

00:20:30.760 you try to concoct a way that it's possible. These things happen without God. They, they could not

00:20:36.200 have it. The more we know, the more obvious it becomes that the God hypothesis is by far the only

00:20:44.280 rational hypothesis we have. And Eric, let me, cause we only a few moments left, a few minutes here.

00:20:49.320 Let me ask you though, why, why declare war on God? And when I look at the, the,

00:20:56.920 the revolutionaries of the 1960s and, and, and forward from there, you notice that God is their

00:21:03.800 first target in the public square, removing God from the public square. And the answer that I've

00:21:09.560 always come up with is control is that if you remove God, you can, you can take control because

00:21:16.280 we see this in every revolutionary movement. They target the priest, they target God, they target the

00:21:20.200 churches, because if you remove that ideology from people, then they will not look to an,

00:21:27.160 a higher power. They'll look to government, they'll look to world.

00:21:29.880 Well, they will despair. And in their despair, they will turn to whoever says I've got the answers.

00:21:35.400 Yes. Um, look, you see this over and over and over again. Why are the Chinese communists

00:21:42.040 at war with God and with Christian faith? Why, or, or even with the weaker Muslims? Why? Because when you 0.97

00:21:47.720 say there is a higher power to whom I answer, you cut them out. You basically say, I don't need to

00:21:54.520 listen to you. I listened to God. That's what built America is that people said, I have faith in God.

00:22:00.920 I will govern myself. I don't need a bureaucracy or a tyrant to tell me what to do. We will be largely

00:22:06.120 self-governing only because we believe in God. You wouldn't have liberty on the American model if you

00:22:12.120 didn't have God and virtue at the heart of it. So there's no question, if you're an authoritarian of any

00:22:16.520 kind, your, your first enemy are those people that believe in the God of the Bible. And by the way,

00:22:25.000 Hitler clearly knew if I do not destroy the church, I'll do it very carefully. I won't come out publicly 0.84

00:22:32.440 against the church, but slowly behind the scenes, I will crush the church because they are my only

00:22:39.320 real enemy in German culture. They are the only ones that can stand against the evil, which of course 0.99

00:22:43.720 brings me to my new book, letter to the American church. Hitler got the church to be silent long

00:22:48.920 enough that he was able to wipe them out. He said, just, just be quiet, just preach your little

00:22:53.960 sermons. And, and, and I got everything else covered. They bought that lie just as many American 0.92

00:22:59.640 Christians today are buying that lie and saying, we shouldn't be political. We shouldn't get involved 1.00

00:23:03.720 in these other things. Right.

00:23:04.200 At some point, if you buy that lie as the German church did at some point, the authoritarian state

00:23:15.000 will crush the church, will, will remove you from having any voice or any ability to get out.

00:23:21.480 And basically that's where we are in America. So the reason I wrote a letter to the American church 0.91

00:23:25.000 is to wake up the American church. Say, if you do not put your faith into action now, very soon,

00:23:30.920 you will no longer have the ability to do that. And if you have a state, and I have to say this as,

00:23:35.560 uh, as the descendant of Poland, that if you have a state that embraces as its ruling ideology,

00:23:41.080 atheism, which the, the natural, uh, exegists of atheism will always be eugenics. It must be. 0.99

00:23:49.160 Oh, there's no question. Right. And so no question. It, it turns into eugenics. And this 0.89

00:23:52.600 is where you start taking that order and then ordering humanity itself. You have, you have your,

00:23:59.080 your, your, your ubermensch, the, your, your, we haven't said it, Jack, it's ultimately a satanic

00:24:04.280 project. You have to be clear from the garden of Eden when Satan says you can be as gods. Okay.

00:24:11.400 That lie, that utopianist lie, you can trace it all through human history. You can either realize

00:24:18.840 I'm not God and I need God, or you can believe the lie that we can be as gods. And that, uh, that

00:24:26.040 satanic project is something we're seeing now because let's face it, we have tremendous technology

00:24:32.520 and abilities to communicate around the world in a way that it's actually frightening. And in other

00:24:37.400 words, if you're an authoritarian, now's your time to, to say, we have the ability, uh, you know,

00:24:44.360 as the Chinese do increasingly to do what the Nazis could only dream of doing, the Nazis could only 0.97

00:24:50.360 dream. Imagine if, uh, Hitler had Google and face recognition technology and on and on and on. So 0.83

00:24:57.560 we are living at a time where what human beings, we are able in a sense, technologically to build

00:25:03.240 the tower of Babel that we've never been able to succeed in building before. And so this is why 0.95

00:25:08.440 the war on God and on God's values has never been more in the open. And so if the church does not wake

00:25:14.200 up now and stand with everything we have against it, we're going to reap the whirlwind. But again,

00:25:20.680 I wrote the book because I believe God's will is that the American church specifically wake up

00:25:27.800 and avoid the horror of what the German did, German church did. That's God's will. Whether we do it, 0.96

00:25:34.520 that's up to us. Eric Metaxas, host of The Eric Metaxas Show. Go get both books,

00:25:39.080 Is Atheism Dead? Letter to American Church. Eric, always a pleasure. Thank you. God bless.

00:25:44.200 Thank you.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - January 03, 2023

EPISODE 358： THE WAR ON RELIGION WITH ERIC METAXAS

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