Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - January 06, 2023


EPISODE 361： THE TRUE HISTORY OF ANTIFA - PART 2

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Ulreich Meinhof Bettina Hans Gruber Andreas Bader Yuri Bezmenov Rudy Deutschke Ernst Talman Red Dawn Deutschmarks Solzhenitsyn Regine Antifa Gang
EPISODE 360： THE TRUE HISTORY OF ANTIFA - PT. 1 SUNDAY SPECIAL： THE CHINA FILES - WORLD WAR TAIWAN

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Ulrike Meinhof was a mother of two twin girls, a wife, a journalist, a communist activist, and a criminal. She was found hanging from the window of her prison cell in 1976, and her death was officially deemed a suicide.

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00:00:00.000 She was 41 years old, a mother of two twin girls, and the West German guards had just
00:00:17.900 found her hanging from the window of her prison cell.
00:00:21.560 The 1976 death of one of the most notorious leftists, agitators, and terrorists in Germany
00:00:30.140 was officially deemed a suicide. Some called the group she ran the Badr-Meinhof Gang,
00:00:38.520 though she personally preferred the name Red Army Faction. Ulrich Meinhof looked the part
00:00:45.900 of an anarcho-communist gangster, and the pictures that we have of her that survive today
00:00:51.500 She has an open, honest, plain face, staring directly and immodestly at the camera. She
00:00:57.900 often smokes a cigarette wearing stylish, if simplistic, clothing. Her hair is usually 0.94
00:01:02.580 unapologetically short, and she's typically in men's trousers, flouting what was still
00:01:07.200 a strong social convention in Germany during the 60s and 70s. Her expression is strong,
00:01:12.120 fierce, unapologetic. Defiance on the way to the gallows.
00:01:17.380 So who was Ulrich Meinhof? Well, believe it or not, she had been a left-wing journalist.
00:01:25.720 A left-wing journalist who was brought up in a family of academics, strong Protestant background,
00:01:32.240 family opposed to the Nazis, deeply opposed to the Nazis. Yet she joined a socialist group,
00:01:39.200 even in West Germany, back in the 1950s, was completely against them. However, the Communist
00:01:47.980 Party in West Germany had been banned, but by 1959, Ulrich Meinhof had been a member.
00:01:55.280 Interestingly enough, and this comes up as a potential question as to her behavior later, 0.79
00:02:01.420 in 1960, Ulrich Meinhof received surgery for a brain tumor. And she received a silver clamp in her
00:02:13.240 skull. And so many people believe that her later behavior and her membership in a communist terrorist
00:02:26.700 organization, leaving behind two twin girls, going on to perform acts of violence, acts of murder,
00:02:37.220 robberies, terrorism, that all of this, potentially this behavior could have been because
00:02:45.600 that brain tumor, that brain tumor, and that surgery. So she works, she takes a job with a leftist
00:02:52.560 newspaper, Concrete. And in 1941, or excuse me, 1961, she ends up marrying the co-founder of that paper.
00:03:00.180 And they have their two twin girls, Regine and Bettina. Today, by the way, Bettina is still around.
00:03:08.780 She is herself a journalist and a researcher on anarchist terrorism and communist violence and
00:03:15.520 is unabashedly critical of her own mother and her own mother's agenda and methods. So the Red Army 0.84
00:03:21.500 faction, Ulrich joins probably a few years after it first gets started because she was somebody who early
00:03:32.960 on was simply a fellow traveler. She wasn't necessarily a member, she was a supporter and was
00:03:39.920 writing about them positively for her newspaper. However, as more and more actions, revolutionary
00:03:50.080 attacks took place, she got divorced. Her own colleague, Rudy Deutsch, survived an assassination attempt.
00:04:00.180 And now, now, the leader of the Badr-Meinhof gang, aka the Red Army faction, ends up getting
00:04:10.200 imprisoned. Listen to this. He was permitted to conduct an interview with a young and up-and-coming
00:04:16.780 journalist, Ulrich Meinhof herself. Yet instead of an interview, Andreas Badr was sprung from jail
00:04:25.360 in one of the most daring and dramatic episodes in their history. During the jailbreak, a librarian
00:04:31.380 was shot and killed by one member of the Red Army faction. And in the chaos that followed, Ulrich,
00:04:37.380 who had been sent there to interview him, makes a split second decision to join the group and go
00:04:44.300 underground with them. Originally, she just wanted to work with them and do her writings and describe
00:04:50.000 them. No. She makes the decision to leave her life behind, leave her daughters behind. She's already 0.99
00:04:56.160 divorced her husband and to fully join the Red Army faction. Where does she end up? Well, just like they 0.97
00:05:04.440 do today, anarchists travel to the Middle East to receive training in guerrilla tactics, terrorism,
00:05:10.520 and she ends up joining and going to the PLO, the Palestinian Liberation Organization. They then,
00:05:17.960 with their Jordanian handlers, clash over food and living quarters and creature comforts, you know, 0.99
00:05:23.760 kind of similar to the millennial teenagers that went over to the PKK. Now, she becomes estranged from
00:05:29.840 her children, those daughters, the ones that are still around today. But in one incident,
00:05:36.120 she returns to Germany and attempts to kidnap her own daughters and have them brought to the Middle 0.94
00:05:45.260 East and trained and indoctrinated by terrorists in order for them to come up and join in the 0.78
00:05:52.880 revolution with her. However, this attempt was thwarted in Sicily. They were found out and the girls
00:05:58.740 were returned to her father. In Germany, Meinhof, she was a wanted woman. With a reward on her 0.95
00:06:06.000 head of no less than 850,000 Deutschmarks. Now, this group, the Red Army Faction, and we'll talk more
00:06:15.980 about this as we go through, assassinations, car bombs, bank robberies, many of which were funded
00:06:25.660 and financed and armed by the KGB themselves. That this was Red Army directed, trained, and funded 0.78
00:06:36.980 activity that was going on in West Germany during the Cold War. And we're not talking about a long,
00:06:44.680 long time ago here. This was not the 1930s. This was actual communist paramilitary operations that were
00:06:53.860 going on in Western Germany. And why was this being done? Because they were looking to destabilize
00:06:59.840 West Germany and possibly to build up or form public opinion for communists there as well. This is in
00:07:07.720 the midst of the Cold War. So what happens to Ulrich Meinhof? What happens to the Red Army Faction?
00:07:17.260 What attacks did they play? We're going to talk about that. And we're also going to talk about the
00:07:24.340 way that they directly targeted U.S. forces and American troops stationed in West Germany,
00:07:31.960 stationed in Stuttgart that had been there since the end of World War II.
00:07:37.480 And you have to look at it from a psychological angle as well.
00:07:40.560 What drives? Was it really the brain tumor? Or was it a desire for access, action, and revolution
00:07:50.220 that drove this young woman to be involved in a domestic terrorist communist plot?
00:07:59.660 So people need to understand that the Red Army was no joke. This was not the Antifa of today that runs
00:08:05.500 around and attacks businesses for pleasure and gets off on threatening people in their homes.
00:08:12.340 This was a serious terrorist organization. On the 11th of May in 1972, the Red Army Faction placed three
00:08:21.300 pipe bombs at the United States Army headquarters in Frankfurt. This bombing resulted in the death of a
00:08:27.780 U.S. officer and the injury of 13 people. There was another one in Hamburg. Members of the Red Army
00:08:34.560 faction, six bombs at a publishing house. Only three of the five bombs exploded, but 36 people
00:08:43.160 were injured. Then again, May of 1972, just two weeks after, a car bomb that killed three soldiers
00:08:50.640 and injured five more right at the intelligence headquarters at Campbell Barracks in Heidelberg.
00:08:55.940 In 1974, the group murdered Gunther von Dreckmann, the president of Germany's Superior Court of Justice.
00:09:05.620 So again and again, this organization committed horrific murders, horrific killings. 1975, the Red Army
00:09:15.840 Faction seized the West German Embassy in Stockholm, Sweden. They took hostages. They set the building to explode.
00:09:22.940 They demanded the release of their own imprisoned members. Remember, this is before Ulrich Meinhof is
00:09:29.600 still in prison at this point. The government, of course, refused to request the request. The Red Army
00:09:35.460 Faction murders two of the hostages. Then one of the bombs goes off inadvertently. Several other members
00:09:43.780 finally surrender. In 1975, it was actually reported, because people didn't know what was going on, it was
00:09:54.720 reported that the Red Army Faction tried to steal mustard gas from a joint facility in West Germany.
00:10:01.260 However, it turns out that it wasn't them. They merely misplaced.
00:10:04.820 But then in 1977, the German autumn took place. This is after Ulrich has died, one year later, possibly even
00:10:18.540 in retaliation for her death in prison, which of course had been ruled a suicide, but many questions still
00:10:25.480 remained. The head of Dredsden Bank was shot and killed in front of his house in Germany. It was a botched
00:10:34.460 kidnapping. But his own family was involved in terms of this. You had government informants, you had
00:10:44.420 hostages, prisoners. Again and again in German autumn, these events keep taking place. An industrial
00:10:55.320 list was kidnapped. The president of the German Employers Association, the Federation of German
00:11:02.660 Industries. Then of course, the hijacking. Because keep in mind, so people have to go back in terms of
00:11:13.900 this, that the PLO also frequently targeted Germany. And we talked before about how the PLO had provided
00:11:22.180 some of the early training to the Red Army faction. Of course, the PLO conducted what? The Munich Massacre
00:11:28.400 in 1972 at the Summer Olympics where? In Munich, West Germany. What was the Munich Massacre? Eight members
00:11:37.040 of Black September infiltrated the Olympic Village and murdered two Israeli Olympic team members and took
00:11:44.660 the other nine hostage. Did they receive support on the Red Army faction? What do you think? So you have to
00:11:53.780 understand that these were communist groups working with the Palestinians inside Germany, provided that
00:11:58.980 fertile ground for all of this to take place. And in fact, at one point in the Munich Massacre, prior to the
00:12:09.540 Munich Massacre, this is when some of the people that were asked to be released included the founders of the
00:12:17.040 Red Army faction, Andreas Bader and Ulreich Meinhof. So they're involved in the Munich Massacre right there.
00:12:24.260 Then you have the hijacking of Lufthansa Flight 181. Again, the popular front for the liberation of Palestine.
00:12:31.900 This was conducted in that same German autumn of 1977. Conducted in October. Eighty-six passengers.
00:12:43.580 Finally, the West German counterterrorism group, backed by the Somalis, stormed the aircraft where? Mogadishu, Somalia.
00:12:51.460 During the Cold War, the Red Army faction continued attacks, continued terrorism, all the way up there. By the way, this inspires, this is the group in Die Hard, right? This is exactly what they're based on, was the Red Army faction. So when you're thinking of Hans Gruber, and you're having the debate on whether or not it's a Christmas movie, I personally don't think it is,
00:13:17.880 that these guys are based on the Red Army faction. There would be no Nakatomi Plaza and no John McClane if not for the Red Army faction.
00:13:29.900 And so this group, even after the death of Ulreich, even after the death of all the original founders, not only does it continue throughout the 1970s, it continues throughout the 1980s.
00:13:47.260 There's even a third generation of the Red Army faction that goes all the way up to 1998, potentially even 99. They're linked to some robberies.
00:14:01.680 Ten years after the fall of the Soviet Union, this group is still around. Now, there are some movies that are made about this, but they're like made for TV movies in Germany.
00:14:12.600 They've never come out in the United States. They've never been released. There's no English language movies about this. And with the exception of Die Hard, which you wouldn't know unless you understood the entire background of the context.
00:14:25.760 So when, you know, when people want to come to me and say, is Die Hard a movie, is it a Christmas movie or an anti-Christmas movie, or excuse me, a Christmas movie or just an action movie, I say, no, it's an anti-communist movie.
00:14:39.200 That's what it is. You need to actually understand the underpinnings of what the group that Hans Gruber is a member of is supposed to be,
00:14:48.720 why they're conducting these actions, and the idea that they're tied in real life to the USSR and international communism.
00:14:57.760 I feel like the world was a little bit better, a little bit easier to understand when things were black and white, or should we say blue and red,
00:15:03.940 because we knew who the enemy was, and we were more than willing to target them and say who they were.
00:15:11.400 But you don't get that today. Today you get lied about.
00:15:14.300 So this group, all the way up through the 80s, all the way up through the 90s, conducting these attacks.
00:15:20.280 In Germany they're known about, and certainly in West Germany they're known about.
00:15:23.380 But in the United States, you don't hear very much about the story of Ulreich Meinhof.
00:15:29.760 When we come back in our very last segment, I want to go back to her.
00:15:33.540 I want to go back to the trial and understand, in her own words,
00:15:38.620 and I will tell you, the things that she said, the reasons behind her actions,
00:15:45.080 what happened to her, the sentencing, the investigation, and her death,
00:15:52.920 very suspicious death, in prison, behind bars.
00:15:55.560 Stay tuned, we'll come right back.
00:15:59.320 So let's go back to that day, the 9th of May, 1976.
00:16:04.900 Ulrich Meinhof, she's been arrested.
00:16:08.620 She's been convicted in a two-year-long trial.
00:16:13.540 She was given eight years.
00:16:16.440 She was found hung in her cell.
00:16:19.620 Now an autopsy, of course, was immediately conducted, and it was ruled suicide.
00:16:25.200 In fact, international and independent investigations have both determined this to be suicide,
00:16:32.160 rather than some type of foul play.
00:16:35.960 Interestingly enough, in late 2002, and I mentioned before her daughter Bettina,
00:16:42.660 who's gone on to become a journalist of her own, talking about anarchist action, anarchist activity.
00:16:49.560 She discovered that, believe it or not, her mother's brain had been saved by the German government.
00:16:56.240 And remember, I told you before about that silver clamp that had been placed in the brain of Ulrich Meinhof back in 1960,
00:17:06.860 back during that brain tumor, and it found that she did have brain injury near her amygdala.
00:17:13.300 And this, believe it or not, through x-rays, because she had become so emaciated during her time with the Red Army faction
00:17:21.600 that people couldn't even identify her properly.
00:17:25.720 And all her years on the run, all her years in the Middle East receiving training with the Palestinians, 0.99
00:17:29.820 that they used x-rays, and they used that silver clamp in the brain surgery to determine that she was, in fact, Ulrich Meinhof.
00:17:38.920 So the brain does get found by her daughter.
00:17:46.600 And interestingly enough, though, at the time, many people had claimed,
00:17:54.220 could this brain surgery have led her to have issues with her ability to control her own impulses?
00:18:02.480 Lack of inhibition control.
00:18:04.280 But a psychiatrist at Magdenberg University later re-examines the brain
00:18:10.340 and became doubtful, believe it or not, that Meinhof was fully criminal responsible
00:18:16.780 because of the damage to her amygdala.
00:18:20.920 So perhaps that may provide some solace and finality for the daughters
00:18:28.180 as an explanation of why their mother left them at 10 years old.
00:18:34.280 And went off to join an organization like this.
00:18:37.500 But at the same time, for members of Antifa,
00:18:41.340 you have to understand that one of the most famous
00:18:44.940 and infamous communist leaders, paramilitary leaders of all time,
00:18:51.060 certainly of the modern era,
00:18:52.340 was literally brain damaged
00:18:55.020 and only joined an organization like this because of that brain damage,
00:19:02.080 the brain tumor, the surgery, and the damage to her own amygdala.
00:19:05.420 And so when you look at Antifa's of today,
00:19:12.480 when you look at Antifa's history,
00:19:14.180 go all the way back to when we talked about their start, Ernst Talman,
00:19:17.660 the destabilizers of the Weimar Republic,
00:19:20.760 the terrorist acts that they conducted throughout.
00:19:24.460 And by the way, that doesn't include
00:19:26.200 just the assassination of McKinley here in the United States,
00:19:29.780 but also assassinations that took place across Europe, in Russia, the Tsar.
00:19:37.940 We need to understand that these paramilitary groups
00:19:41.960 and these revolutionary groups always lead
00:19:44.360 to more terror,
00:19:47.400 to more anger,
00:19:48.660 and more destruction.
00:19:49.640 Soviet Union was an example 1.00
00:19:52.800 of what happens when a regime like that gets into power.
00:19:56.320 Communist Cuba, another example.
00:19:59.140 You're seeing examples of this in South America right now.
00:20:03.680 And here in the United States,
00:20:05.640 we've now, at long last,
00:20:08.920 seen these types of groups 0.99
00:20:10.720 raise their ugly heads.
00:20:14.420 It goes back to the Battle of Seattle in 1999, 0.98
00:20:17.860 where, believe it or not,
00:20:19.820 Antifa was protesting the allowance of China
00:20:23.440 into the World Trade Organization.
00:20:25.700 Funny how they don't seem to talk about that anymore.
00:20:27.420 Because here's the difference.
00:20:29.140 The problem is,
00:20:30.900 that for Antifa today,
00:20:32.600 they've become, for lack of a better word,
00:20:34.860 woke-ified.
00:20:36.080 They don't just embrace
00:20:37.080 first-generation Marxism now,
00:20:39.640 they embraced cultural Marxism.
00:20:42.100 And that is the mark,
00:20:42.760 because Marxism works,
00:20:45.820 and when I say works,
00:20:46.520 I mean gain a foothold
00:20:47.580 in countries where there is
00:20:49.740 a strong upper class
00:20:51.440 and a large lower class.
00:20:54.540 So it works in imperial countries,
00:20:56.820 such as
00:20:58.080 imperial Russia,
00:21:00.400 imperial China,
00:21:01.360 or post-imperial China
00:21:02.500 in the 1920s.
00:21:04.980 But what about the United States?
00:21:07.100 What about a country
00:21:07.980 that's largely
00:21:09.220 diamond-shaped,
00:21:10.540 where you have a
00:21:11.320 small upper class,
00:21:12.760 small lower class,
00:21:13.920 and a large middle,
00:21:15.080 a large middle class?
00:21:16.580 Well, the way to divide
00:21:17.360 a country like that
00:21:18.280 in a country like the United States,
00:21:20.200 which is a diverse country,
00:21:21.800 is through the division
00:21:23.640 on ethnic lines,
00:21:25.880 the division
00:21:26.460 on racial lines,
00:21:28.800 on gender lines,
00:21:30.340 creating new genders,
00:21:31.900 and then going and pushing
00:21:33.140 for more and more
00:21:34.600 revolutionary
00:21:35.520 fervor
00:21:37.920 in order
00:21:39.560 to quote-unquote
00:21:40.960 stand for
00:21:42.300 the interests
00:21:42.960 of these groups.
00:21:43.800 And this is the same reason
00:21:44.860 that communists
00:21:45.880 across the world
00:21:46.820 and Antifa
00:21:47.720 across the world
00:21:48.400 always claim
00:21:49.220 to commit their violence.
00:21:51.580 It's always in the name
00:21:52.820 of the oppressed.
00:21:54.440 It's always in the name
00:21:55.260 of the downtrodden.
00:21:57.120 But of course,
00:21:58.000 just like every other group,
00:21:59.000 when they become
00:21:59.700 in power themselves,
00:22:01.160 when they attain power
00:22:01.860 themselves,
00:22:02.700 they then become
00:22:04.660 the oppressors.
00:22:05.780 They then become
00:22:06.840 the ones
00:22:07.460 with their boots
00:22:09.880 on the heels
00:22:10.840 of the populace.
00:22:12.480 And if you do not
00:22:13.180 go along
00:22:13.880 with their version
00:22:15.580 of what they call,
00:22:17.440 to use Marcuse's phrase,
00:22:19.800 repressive tolerance,
00:22:22.180 then you
00:22:23.400 are the one
00:22:24.340 who goes to jail.
00:22:26.580 Then you are the one
00:22:27.720 who gets sent away,
00:22:29.580 sent to the gulag,
00:22:31.040 like we saw
00:22:32.260 in Russia,
00:22:33.860 like Solzhenitsyn
00:22:34.680 saw in the Soviet Union.
00:22:36.840 Like so many
00:22:37.960 saw in
00:22:39.000 communist China.
00:22:41.740 Because
00:22:42.260 revolutionary movements
00:22:43.300 like these
00:22:44.020 only seek
00:22:45.140 to destabilize
00:22:45.900 and only seek
00:22:46.640 to destroy.
00:22:48.440 And because
00:22:48.820 these great
00:22:49.420 communist movements
00:22:50.100 of the past,
00:22:51.400 as Yuri Bezmanov
00:22:52.180 would tell us,
00:22:53.820 they knew
00:22:54.220 they could never
00:22:54.660 defeat the United States
00:22:55.560 militarily.
00:22:56.420 Red Dawn's scenario
00:22:57.300 doesn't work
00:22:57.940 because you can't
00:22:58.640 get an army
00:22:59.340 into Mexico
00:23:00.060 without the United States 0.94
00:23:00.980 noticing.
00:23:01.440 So what do you do?
00:23:03.120 Strategic deterrence.
00:23:04.240 You get the United States 0.90
00:23:06.120 to fight itself.
00:23:07.600 You increase
00:23:08.100 the divisions.
00:23:08.860 You increase
00:23:09.280 and polarize
00:23:10.260 the populace.
00:23:11.800 You create
00:23:12.720 movements
00:23:13.240 that seek
00:23:14.320 to overturn
00:23:15.140 the established order
00:23:16.460 that used
00:23:18.300 unnatural
00:23:19.360 elements
00:23:20.240 to create
00:23:21.120 a new order
00:23:21.900 based around
00:23:23.200 oppression,
00:23:24.860 based around
00:23:25.280 this inverted
00:23:26.740 hierarchy
00:23:27.440 of victimization.
00:23:29.320 and in doing
00:23:30.920 so,
00:23:31.940 you take
00:23:34.300 out
00:23:34.720 your main
00:23:35.460 opponents
00:23:35.960 from the
00:23:37.580 world stage.
00:23:40.060 We used
00:23:41.000 to be a
00:23:41.400 serious country.
00:23:42.580 We used
00:23:43.300 to have
00:23:43.720 a proper
00:23:44.500 country.
00:23:45.340 And it is
00:23:45.900 our job
00:23:46.580 to reestablish
00:23:48.120 the United States'
00:23:49.280 role as
00:23:50.160 that proper
00:23:50.780 country
00:23:51.240 through
00:23:51.920 a national
00:23:52.960 renewal.
00:23:53.960 And that is
00:23:54.720 the point
00:23:55.120 of what we
00:23:55.700 are doing
00:23:56.120 and why
00:23:56.840 we'll never
00:23:57.520 follow the
00:23:58.360 footsteps.
00:23:58.800 of Ulrich
00:23:59.820 Meinhof,
00:24:00.840 the Red
00:24:01.120 Army Faction,
00:24:02.440 and Antifa.
00:24:03.600 Ladies and 0.98
00:24:04.180 gentlemen,
00:24:04.480 as always,
00:24:04.900 you have my
00:24:05.300 permission to
00:24:06.220 lay short.