EPISODE 391： THE FOOD CRISIS IN AMERICA
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What are you putting in your body? Folks, we are going to talk all about the food crisis in America today because it s gotten to the point that I need to address it. So we re going to get all into it with two very special guests who work directly in the industry.
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what are you putting in your body? Folks, we are going to talk all about the food crisis
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in America today because it's gotten to the point that I need to address it. So we're going to get
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all into it with two very special guests who work directly in the industry. They're going to give it
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to us from the horse's mouth, literally. But first, I want to remind you, humanevents.com
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily powered
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by Turning Point USA. Today is February 10th, 2023. Anno Domine. We are very excited today to join.
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I think this is the first time we've actually done this because we've got two guys. Now,
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they're not in studio with me, but they are in the Turning Point studio back, our palatial
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Turning Point studio at Turning Point headquarters all the way back in Phoenix, Arizona. So we're linked
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up together. It's studio to studio membrane tied together at the umbilical cord. We've got Jermaine
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and Ben from Good Ranchers with us today. Guys, thank you so much for joining the show.
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Hey, man. Thanks for having us. We're excited to be here.
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Well, I really appreciate it. Now, for folks who don't know, you know, for folks who are first
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timers, you know, we've talked about Good Ranchers a ton here on the show. But for folks that aren't
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familiar, can you give me just a quick, you know, just a quick, you know, the elevator pitch for Good
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Ranchers? What is it? You know, why why should people really care more about this? And we're
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going to get in, by the way, today on today's show, this idea of actually paying attention to what we
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eat, paying attention to the types of food we eat, and paying attention to how the food we eat is
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sourced. And so I think that was a perfect reason for having you guys on. Yeah, absolutely. So Good
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Ranchers is American meat delivered. Why that's important, the American meat part is that
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85% of the beef being sold in the US today is imported from overseas. In 2015, Congress took
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away the country of origin labeling law on pork and on beef. And since 2015, the floodgates have
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just been opened up for beef and pork to be imported into the US processed in a US facility
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and have an American flag sticker stamped on it and called product of USA. So consumers are more
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confused now than ever before. And so Good Ranchers exists to connect the American family to the American
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farm. We only partner with American ranches, American farms, everything that we sell is born,
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raised and harvested in the United States of America. And we believe that American agriculture
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is the best agriculture in the world. And we know that our country was founded by was was built on
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agriculture and farming. And and to see it, to see it just kind of our country from the top down just doesn't
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care about it anymore. We are losing the war on owning our own food supply. And you can look, you can look
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all through history and whoever controls the food controls the people. And we are rapidly giving up control
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of our own food supply. So Good Ranchers exists, like I said, to connect the American people to the American
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farm. We exist to provide high quality meals to families and to support the American agriculture
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food chain. Yeah. And to jump off of what Ben just said, connecting the average American family to the
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local a local farm. And that's how it used to be. That's that's how this country was built, right?
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You would either know you would know somebody that was raising cattle or you knew something that was
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raising chicken. And you guys either barter or supplier, you'd go down there and you'd buy from these guys
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and you knew where your meat was coming from. And we've lost we've lost that whole system. Right.
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And so we go to walk into a grocery store. We have no idea. Like Ben was just saying 2015,
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the cold law. We have no earthy idea where our meat's coming from, where our eggs are coming from,
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any of this stuff. Right. Our pork is coming from. And so, you know, I know when Ben and Corley started
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it, that was really something that was on their heart is to try to know where we our meat comes from.
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And and so we're just trying to get back to the way it used to be. We're not trying to reinvent the
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will here. We're trying to go back to the way the way it used to be. It's like we're connecting our our like who
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our customers are to local farms and ranches. Right. And the great thing about it. And by the
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way, so my family just full, you know, full disclosure here, we've got we've had I don't
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even know how many boxes total of good ranchers that's been delivered to us over the past, I think
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over a year now we've been we've been getting them. Yeah. And every time we go through one, we get
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another one. And the way this works is it gets delivered directly to your house. You don't have to
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go. You know, we just do the shopping basically, you know, online and we say, oh, we want so this
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this amount of this, this amount of that, because, you know, we've got my wife's parents live with us.
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And so we've got six adults in the house, two kids. So we're always going through food. We're always
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shopping. And there's something great about knowing, especially because, look, we've been facing and
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we've seen in the news so many supply chain issues with food just over the past year. And it's it's
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funny because I remember when they first, you know, approached me and said, hey, to check this
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good ranchers thing out, is it something you'd be into? I said, yeah, that'd be great. I think
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to be I think that's awesome. I'm all about natural food. I'm all about the fact that it's that it's
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not processed food. And so my my my wife and her family, they're from Eastern Europe. And so when
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they came to the United States, this idea of all the processed food that Americans eat is so completely
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foreign to them. And I remember my father in law saying something like, well, hey, you Americans,
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you eat so much plastic food. I don't understand why you eat all this plastic food, because that's
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what it is to him. You guys have been cutting that out. But but even more to the point. Can you can
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you explain this to us? Maybe maybe you've got I'm sure because you're in the industry. And since I've
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got to do my job as as an interviewer, the egg thing, you got to explain to me, where are all the
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eggs going? What's going on with the eggs in this country? Yeah. Yeah. So there's actually there's
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several factors into this when the the rise in cost, right? I think last I look, the average
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egg price is almost 70 percent higher than it was a year ago. I know in some place, I think it's over
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four dollars now, the average cost of a dozen eggs. And some places it's that's a steal. That's a
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steal. I know some places it's ten dollars. It's up there. So one of the areas is obviously and this
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is what everybody talks about inflation, right? And inflation has there's several steps. So the egg
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farmer, right, the the chicken farmer that's producing the eggs, they're they're having to
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they're having to pass those inflation costs back to the customer because it's just layer after
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layer, whether it's feed, feed is at an all time high as well. Chicken feed is the most expensive
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it's ever been in the history of agriculture. And obviously, there's layers to that, too. And we'll
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talk about this one if we talk about beef as well. But the war in Ukraine with Russia, Russia and
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Ukraine are the two largest, you know, producers of grain for for chicken grain. And so that's
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obviously affected the price of grain all over the world, but especially here in the U.S.
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So you have you have the inflation costs, but then you also have the bird flu, the avian flu that is
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decimated the decimated the farm. There's in what's happened is there was a huge outbreak about three
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or four months ago, the hen population decreased significantly. And this this happened about 15
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years ago. By the way, we had a it broke out about 15 years ago, we had huge hen population
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decreased significantly, but but it stopped. Right. We took care of it and went through.
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We had a big outbreak. We had a little bit of a section where nothing happened and then another
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outbreak. And so the the hen size, the herd or the amount of hens out there never got a chance to
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repopulate. And so there's a there's a so there's a physical chicken shortage. And then we have the
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inflation issue, right, with increased costs. So that that's the problem with the eggs here. And so
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this just but it just puts a light on the broken system that we're working in. Right. It's a broken
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Well, and that's exactly right because, you know, we see study after study that's talking about the
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health in the United States. I think after COVID in general, people are asking more questions about
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their health and not just about from, you know, from the perspective of a, you know, of a virus or,
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you know, potential different treatments, but we're also starting to look more at the inputs
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to our health. This more of holistic view of things, this idea that, you know, you got some guy up
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there on TV who doesn't look healthy at all telling you that, uh, you know, he knows what's
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best and then you've got, but then, and then some government worker, you know, determining what the
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government says should be right. But of course we know the government was completely wrong with the
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food pyramid. They promoted that for three decades of being completely wrong. They're still wrong in
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many of the things that they put out from the FDA. And we know this is because big ag is coming in
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and, and, and, you know, pushing different, uh, different things they want. Obviously big sugar
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plays a huge, huge role in that as well as the amount of sugars that find themselves in our
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processed foods. Can you talk a little bit about why it's so important that we make sure that our
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food is not coming from one of those sources and that we are getting an indeed, you know, when you
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go to a whole foods or a grocery store that you're not necessarily getting just, just raw natural
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product. And as, as opposed to what you guys actually, uh, uh, shipped directly to people's
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homes. Yeah. Eat real food. I've tweeted that so many times, just eat real food. My wife, wait,
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wait, wait, I'm sorry. I don't have to cut your eyes. My wife always says this though. She always says
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when you go to buy something at the store, you want the minimum amount of ingredients possible. And if,
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and if possible, there should only be one, one word when you look under the ingredients,
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you go out and you look at this, like, uh, beyond meat and plant-based this and plant-based that,
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uh, my, one of my producers was just telling me, I guess Chick-fil-A is experimenting with a, uh,
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you know, plant-based beyond meat chicken. And it's like Chick-fil-A cauliflower. I know,
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right? I thought that was God's chicken. Exactly. Even they're getting everywhere with this stuff
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because, and you look at the list of the thing reads like a CVS receipt with all the ingredients
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in this stuff. It's like, yeah, there might be something that touched the plant at some point,
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but what else you got in there? And it's, it, but yeah, please go ahead. Yeah. Well, we're,
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we're actually in the process of, of writing a blog every, every Friday we put out a different blog
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and we try to be, we try to talk about what's going on in the, in the industry and, and the meat,
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you know, the meat industry and, and, um, current events and things like that. We're working on one
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right now because we just learned this recently that the, that beyond meat actually has a patent
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with, um, Dippin' Dots that, yeah, where they're using the, they're, um, they're using the technology
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of Dippin' Dots to, to freeze this fatty substance into these little gelatinous mass pellets that they
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actually are make, they make the beyond meat with. It's disgusting. It's gross. It's absolutely
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disgusting. So they're trying to, what they're trying to do is replicate. That's actually what
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just what my mind meant to when you said that. So they're trying to replicate the, cause you'll,
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you'll get these little gelatinous, you know, globules in, in meat just, just naturally as
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you get, that's where marshmallows and different things come from, uh, when you're, when you're,
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uh, processing it. But, but that, uh, and I just remember from, you know, working in a deli when I was
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growing up basically, um, that what they're trying to do is replicate that using Dippin' Dots
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technology to create artificial, Oh, that sounds so weird. And the number one ingredient for that
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is, is canola oil. Yeah. Which obviously, you know, like the seed oil is a huge, huge debate
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right now, huge conversation, but I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm all about it. I'm, I'm a hundred percent.
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I'm like in this house, we do not eat seed oils in this house. We do not touch receipts. Uh, you know,
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we go, we go hardcore with all that stuff. Um, and my, but, but you gotta understand that for,
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for my wife and for her family, it's not viewed as hardcore for them. It's normal because most
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countries in the world and particularly in Europe, but just most countries in the world in general,
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they do not eat like Americans. They don't eat what's, you know, they refer to as the standard
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American diet. And if you've ever traveled outside the world, or if you've ever had a natural meat,
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if you've ever had natural vegetables, you will understand that the, the physical taste,
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the texture, the quality, it's totally different from the stuff we've been eating.
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Oh, uh, hands down. No question. It's, uh, you know, the start, this really started in the seventies,
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probably before then, but the, when we, when, uh, talking about the food pyramid and just
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the American nutrition, we, we went on this fat free craze and we put this war on fat. Um, and
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then which allowed them, which allowed us to start heavily processing things to make them fat free,
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which is actually terrible for you. Animal fats are so good for us. They're, they're good for the
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brain. They're good for, uh, I mean, you can go down the list of the reasons of why we need animal fats.
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And, um, it's just this war on fat, which then goes into this war on meat and, um, and, and all it's done.
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It's crazy because every other country, the U S used to produce the most beef, more beef than any other
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country. And we are on, if you look at a graph of the beef production in the U S from the year 2000
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to today, it's a 45 degree angle down. And you can look this up on the USDA website. It's, it's,
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it's, it's, it's out there for anybody to see. If you go to the USDA website, it's a 45 degree angle
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slant of, of a decrease in U S and, um, U S beef production. But Brazil and South America, they're
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right. They're mowing down the rainforest to create more pastures, to put more cattle on. Uh, New Zealand
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is, is, is constantly producing more and more and more beef. We, we're on the verge of producing the
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least amount of beef than we've ever have before. And that's a problem. That's a real problem because
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we are going to be, we are going to be, we at the mercy of other countries trying to provide us
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real food if we want it. And, um, and the majority of people just aren't talking about this. I'm still
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glad and thankful that you have, um, that you had us on the show. And I'm, and, and I know that you
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regularly talk about things like this, but, um, you know, we talk about a lot of things in politics
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and the world and, and, and, and, but food is a fundamental human need. We, it's, we need air, we need
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water, we need food. And, um, and if, if we are dependent on other countries to provide us our food,
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Well, that's exactly right. I mean, we've gotten to the point now and we talked about this in the
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pandemic where we were essentially we've outsourced everything. So we are now our, you know, you might
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say the US's greatest export is jobs right now over the last 30 years because we sent all our
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manufacturing to China. We've outsourced our energy to the Middle East. And to your point,
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we are outsourcing more and more of our agriculture every single year with not only for the agricultural
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production of vegetables and crops, but also with livestock. And this idea, and I don't think
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people realize this, that you're getting the stuff that you're getting that's that says,
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you know, USDA or, or US meat. It's, it's not necessarily because of these labels, the way that
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it's processed, the way the shipping goes in, they're able to slap this on. And you're right.
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It could be something from Brazil. It could be from Australia. It could be from Mexico. You would
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Yeah. And, and the standards are so different. That's the other, that's the other topic.
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You know, the standards for raising cattle, the U S has some of the most stringent
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standards for raising cattle, right? Whether it's, um, you know, what, what's being fed,
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how it's being treated veterinary, how, like how they live, all those things. Like we have some of
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the best, the best standards, these other countries, we don't know what they're doing,
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right? You get to the South America, South America. We don't know what there is. There's
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no regulation been brought up. New Zealand. New Zealand is our, is one of the first countries
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to start mandating the MRNA vaccines in their cattle. Um, so there's a, there's a pretty big,
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whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't bury the lead. They're mandating MRNA vaccines in
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their cattle. Break that down for me. Yeah. So, um, I think it was earlier this couple of months
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ago that they were, they were the first country they, they pass it through their, their, their
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government that, uh, all cat, all cattle moving forward had to be vaccinated with the MRNA.
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They had not put a date on it. They didn't put a date on it. And so, um, so yeah, they will be the
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first country to, to produce cattle that are actually have that MRNA vaccine. So we've, it's never
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been done, um, in cattle before, right? Outside of like some, you know, laboratory testing
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events. But, um, yeah, and there's, there's a really large, there's a really large, uh,
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online meat company out there that gets majority of their cattle from New Zealand. So that's,
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that's, you have to be careful. You got to know, like back to what we said at the very beginning,
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connecting American families to the local ranch and farms, know where your meat comes from. It's
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important. It's extremely important. Um, yeah, because you want to know what you're putting that.
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The reason my wife and I correlate, Coralie and I started good ranchers is we, it was after we had
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our first child that we've always been healthy, um, individuals, but after we had our first kid,
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we really started going, looking at labels and really started looking at what we were bringing
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into the home to put into our bodies. And when we started looking at our options for meat, we found
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that there, there was not, there was so, there's so much inconsistency and lack of transparency in
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the meat world. There's literally a term in, in this industry that we've learned called the meat
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mafia. And, uh, it's a, it's a regular term used in, in the beef industry and because it's, it's such
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a racket the way it's ran. Um, and that's a great punk rock band name, by the way. There we go.
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Exactly. Yeah. So again, we started good ranchers really for our, for our own family and knowing
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that if it was important to our family, it would be important to other families. And so we, we eat,
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we're on a regular subscription of good ranchers. We don't sell anything that we don't eat in our own
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home regularly. Yeah. Well, I mean, and to your point, um, we've, we've done that for our family
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as well with good ranchers, with your company, we've, we, you know, our kids have eaten it. Our,
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we've, we've been to turning point events where, you know, a good rancher supplied the food and
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they love it by the way. They absolutely love it. The hot dogs, the burgers, particularly cause
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they're, they're kind of at that age more. They're not really, you know, steaks. And you guys do
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seafood as well. Um, but one of the, uh, one of the things that I like about it is, is look, my wife
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and I, uh, she's raising the kids. Um, I'm busy, I'm, you know, taping shows and running off to this
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event, that event, or Charlie calls me up and says, Jack, you're sending me to Davos. You're
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going to Davos for a couple of weeks and deal with the Klaus Schwab and the economic forum and
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everything. And it, and it's, it's tough to be able to sit down and say, look, I don't always have
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time to do all the research into every single thing. And I get it that people are busy. I say this
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all the time. And I say, sometimes I say it about, you know, elections, but, or news in general is,
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you know, people aren't stupid. People are just busy, right? People are just busy and they're
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looking for a way to cut through their, to save their time for things they want to be able to
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spend time on. And sure they can, you know, listen to podcasts like this. And I, you know,
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I highly encourage everyone to listen to podcasts to act, even my own podcast, go ahead, listen to
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two X. I don't care. So why, but the idea is you want to be able to spend time with your family.
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You want to be able to spend time where you're doing stuff that you enjoy. You don't want to be
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spending time digging into, you know, the, the sourcing properties of beyond meat. And what
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does this ingredient do? And that I get it, right? It takes forever. It's going to take up so much of
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your time. And what I appreciate that you guys do is that you've actually kind of already done that
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homework for them. Yeah. And can I, well, yeah, that's what I was going to say. Our, there's lots
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of people putting meat in boxes. There's, you can get meat at the grocery store, but with the good
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ranchers, you can trust the source, you know, where you're getting it from. And Ronald Reagan said in his
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farewell address, he said, all great change in America starts at the dinner table. So tonight,
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sit down, start talking. And our mission at Good Ranchers isn't to put meat in a box. It's to bring
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people to the table. The dinner table has been lost over the last 30, 40 years. We're in a fast food
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society. We want to provide amazing quality meat that, you know, you can trust where it's coming from
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that supports American agriculture. And you can just make easy quality meals at home and spend time
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around the table because the table is what transforms the home. Yeah. I couldn't agree more guys. We're
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just about out of time, but, but just give us a couple of seconds left. Uh, let us, let people know
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where they can follow you, what you guys are working on next. And if people are interested,
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obviously it's good ranchers.com, but if you have anything else coming out with the company.
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Yeah. So go to the good ranchers.com. You can find it. Yeah. We have bacon. We're about to launch
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bacon here in about three, three weeks. And then we have a, uh, Oh, don't tell me that you got,
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no, not three weeks. Now I got to, I'm going to wait in three weeks. Let me tell you, we, I need,
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I, I, I, come on. I'm like the host of the show, right? I get a special touch. We can get you some
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bacon. Don't let them out of the building. I personally tried so much bacon over the last
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six months trying to get the, this is the best bacon hands down that we've had. It is amazing.
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You're going to love it. We're launching a pork line here in about six weeks. Amazing pork line.
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And I just want to say one thing supply, like supply shortages are coming. They're not,
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it's not a, if it is coming, we have the lowest amount of cattle in the U S ever, ever. And it's
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only going to, we have about a three year gap. We're just going to continue to go down. So find
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a food source that you can trust, find a food source that you can depend on. And with good
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ranchers, you can depend on us. We we've done, we've done our homework. We've got a great supply chain
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set up. So go out and find a place that, you know, you know, you're not going to have to worry
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about where your next meal is going to come from with good ranchers.
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Yeah. Guys, thank you so much for coming on. We've got Ben Spell, Jermaine Gill here
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from good ranchers. I appreciate you being on and explaining to us the importance of knowing
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that we put in our bodies and the importance of maintaining our supply chains. Ladies and
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gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.