Birth control advocate Margaret Sanger was born in 1879 in Brooklyn, New York. She was one of 11 children born into an impoverished family, and her mother died at an early age. Though the cause of death was listed as tuberculosis, Sanger always blamed her mother s early death on the fact that she was weak from bearing so many children. This deep-seated disdain for large families would encompass Margaret s life and contribute to her belief that women should limit, or be limited, in the number of children they should have.
00:18:17.560I was going to make another comment, but that's actually pretty cool to hear.
00:18:20.260No, I genuinely appreciate hearing that that's something that's coming back into the world.
00:18:26.120The importance of family, the importance of having that kind of unity, especially when we live in such a disassociated world where, okay, you know, everything exists through a screen.
00:18:37.080And I was being flippant about it earlier about the rise in hardcore pornography and the accessibility of it, right?
00:18:43.260When I was a kid, you know, you would have to go and at the video rental store, right, which was a thing that existed for you, you whippersnappers.
00:18:52.120Um, and there was always like, there was always like this, this curtain in the back of the store that went into another back room and it was always like, oh, what's back there?
00:19:02.120And it's like, oh, you're not allowed to know.
00:19:05.140And you would see it might, it might actually say adults only, or, you know, the back row of the magazine rack.
00:19:10.260And so you, you were sort of aware that there was another, you know, like another portion of, uh, the store, but you know, you, you weren't allowed to go back in there.
00:19:18.900And of course, like when you get like 12, 13, you would try to like peak or something.
00:19:48.700Um, you, you follow Tanya Taze, for example, like you literally like track all of us.
00:19:53.900I always ask her, by the way, I say, can you just wait like a day until we leave somewhere before you start posting all of the videos?
00:19:59.620About what we were doing just so that, you know, Antifa and the left can't track us down.
00:20:03.600But I think there's something that's going on.
00:20:06.620And this is my thesis is that because of the loss of privacy and the growth of social media, it's that you can see lifestyles now through social media.
00:20:19.720And so you can almost go in and instead of seeing the lifestyle of your neighborhood or the people that go to your church or the people that are immediately around you,
00:20:28.980the people that are at your school now through social media, you can see the entire vast array of lifestyles that are out there at the moment.
00:20:36.580And then you can kind of decide which one seems to make sense or which one seems to be an absolute failure.
00:20:42.300Like you can look at someone's life and say, boy, that, that looks terrible.
00:21:06.000But no, no, no, it's that you can sell like, OK, here's someone who lives with their family and here's someone who is going to church and they have a stable family.
00:21:13.820And this one, it just seems better versus you can see people who have these sort of broken lives, who are depressed, who are angry all the time.
00:21:21.060And you can sort of you can try it on almost for size by following someone on social media.
00:21:25.860And I think you're seeing people opt out.
00:21:28.060This is a very long way of stating this.
00:21:30.040And I haven't even really put it down in words yet.
00:21:32.080But I think it's the first time I mentioned it.
00:21:33.600But I think it's one of the reasons that you're seeing the rise of these trends, because they can see they can see what works and what doesn't.
00:21:41.800Basically, I put it this way for myself.
00:21:43.920When I was in the military, the last unit I was in was pretty, pretty high up tempo, high mission speed.
00:21:52.240You were going out, attaching to some cool guy units, go into different parts of the world, doing cool guy stuff and, you know, high speed, low drag, all that stuff.
00:22:01.060And I remember that there were guys in the unit that had been in for 15 years, 20 years, 25 years.
00:22:08.340And they had the, I mean, absolute coolest war stories.
00:22:12.340I mean, Iraq, Afghanistan, parts unknown, parts of Africa, parts of Asia.
00:22:17.140And it's like, wow, you guys did that really cool stuff.
00:22:20.520But at the same time, the one thing I noticed was that their family life, their home lives all sucked.
00:22:29.360They were totally just committed to their work, committed to their job.
00:22:33.560And they didn't really have anything going for them outside of that.
00:22:37.620And I remember thinking, you know, that's, it's fun and it's awesome.
00:22:42.380And, you know, I got some cool stories that, you know, you're at Guantanamo Bay.
00:22:46.160But at the same time, I remember thinking that, yeah, I don't know if I want to do this forever because that's not the life I envisioned for myself.
00:22:54.400Well, and that's the, that's the dangerous part about social media and specifically celebrities and idolizing people that have followings.
00:23:02.220Right. And Bo Burnham spoke about this a lot in his performances, but it's the me generation who was told, express yourself.
00:23:09.820Everyone cares about what you have to say.
00:23:11.660And then they grew up and they realized nobody really cares about what they have to say.
00:23:15.220So they flocked to these entertainers and these performers.
00:23:18.380And most of these people really aren't giving a true look into their lifestyles and what they're doing.
00:23:26.200And instead, these people are chasing these desires of fame and money and the luxury cars.
00:23:32.220Which is all very vapid and narcissistic.
00:23:35.220And the media, in my opinion, has bastardized our consciousness and what we value as humans, as a society.
00:23:49.520We're, we're coming up on a break here, but I really want to get back into something you mentioned earlier in the show about Roe v. Wade.
00:23:57.460And I've seen you talk about this before.
00:23:59.120You're the only person who I've seen talk about this, which is crazy to me because I've been going to the March for Life since I was in high school.
00:24:06.960I've been a member of obviously the Catholic Church, but then also the pro-life movement.
00:24:10.760And I've never heard the specific take that you've given on this.
00:24:16.600And that's why, folks, we're talking to Ashley St. Clair.
00:24:41.900Now, Ashley, we were talking before the break about Roe v. Wade.
00:24:45.620And you mentioned in the beginning to this about this idea that Roe v. Wade, the actual decision at the Supreme Court, was influenced by population theory.
00:24:58.220Now, I know you broke this down on Tim Pool, but can you walk us through that again?
00:25:03.240Yes, there's a fantastic book on the entire abuse of discretion that was Roe v. Wade.
00:25:10.180And the book is called Abuse of Discretion.
00:25:12.060And it really breaks down all of the ways that Roe v. Wade was an abuse of discretion in many ways, just on judicial and precedent matters.
00:25:21.440And one of the things they talk about is clerk notes that we're citing populationist theory and population control theory in these decisions on Roe v. Wade.
00:25:31.740And that is what stuck out to me the most, because what that says, you know, you can go again, you can go back and forth all day on the majority of abortion.
00:25:39.160But any ounce of population control theory influencing this means that the people at the highest echelon making the decisions for us at the Supreme Court think that it is better.
00:25:54.020That is what it tells me, that they think there are people who are more deserving to live than others and that they think you don't deserve to have a family.
00:26:02.680You shouldn't have a family. We have too many people. And that, to me, was the most sinister part of all of this.
00:26:08.540Yes, it's sinister to convince women that they shouldn't have children in general.
00:26:12.420But if it's influenced by this global idea that we need less people, that, to me, is inherently evil.
00:26:20.840Right. So I pulled it up here. It's what is population theory?
00:26:24.000Population theory is Malthusian population theory that suggests a reduction in the population pressure on existing resources through emigration or just a reduction in the population in general could trigger a rise in birth and survival rates in the sending population.
00:26:42.680So it's actually this idea that if you reduce the population that you'll basically this, there's too many people for the resources that we have on Earth right now.
00:26:54.580There's too many people for the food supply. There's too many people for the energy supply.
00:26:58.840So in order for the survival of the species long term, you actually have to kill off a certain perspective or a certain percentage of the species or allow for the fact that if you're going to take this to the next level, which we know that Margaret Sanger did, then you want to make sure that certain parts of the population don't procreate.
00:27:20.540Right. So you're talking about I'm not just talking about if you have mental illness.
00:27:24.400I'm talking about what they would call undesirables and this idea that you're you're basically you you are conducting eugenic population control by taking social experimentation and then introducing it to whether you're a minority, whether you're someone who they believe is a you know, if you're sub 100 IQ, this type of thing that you're going in and sterilizing people.
00:27:48.960Or in these cases, of course, making sure that those people get birth control and go in for eventually abortion because and I'll read back again here.
00:27:59.800The growth they believe Malthusians believe that the growth of the food supply or other resources is linear, which eventually reduces living standards to the point of triggering a population decline.
00:28:09.980But actually, aren't we actually seeing the opposite right now? Because now we have declining birth rates and a declining population and it ain't just us.
00:28:18.660You see China, they're going off a cliff with this thing because China went crazy with Malthusianism when they went for the one child policy from 1980 all the way up to 2016.
00:28:27.700They just started getting away from this because they realize how bad things are. Japan is seeing this. Russia is seeing this. Western Europe is seeing this.
00:28:34.920You've got countries out there like Poland and Hungary. We had Tanya on the show when we were in Budapest after we actually sat down with Orban and had this discussion with him about how there are positive ways to grow your country.
00:28:46.960So you don't need to open borders. And yes, and what's crazy to me is, and I think this came out in that episode, but did you realize that in Hungary, they didn't even ban abortion.
00:28:57.040They just created the economic incentives for people to grow families and that the abortion rate dropped on its own. Isn't that amazing?
00:29:07.900Yes. And like you said, the truth of the matter is there are plenty of resources. There is plenty of food and we can fit a whole lot more people here and be just fine.
00:29:19.860Countries like Japan are going to get hit hard. We're going to get hit hard by this declining birth rate.
00:29:24.420We're not going to see these effects immediately. We're going to see these decades down the line.
00:29:28.380And isn't it interesting, Jack, that the answer for so many issues on the left is just don't have children.
00:29:35.400The climate's getting bad. Don't have kids. The economy's bad. Don't have kids.
00:29:42.440So what you're saying is they they're in search of this answer.
00:29:47.660So they're in search of a problem that gives them that answer because they've already started from that.
00:29:51.280You're trans. Don't have kids. Sterilize yourself.
00:29:54.420How is it the answer to all of these things to not have children?
00:29:57.840That is the cure for so many of these issues. How is that the cure?
00:30:02.020Well, and you even had in the past so many celebrities out there.
00:30:05.880Look at like Ashley Judd and others who were coming out and saying that they were just straight up promoting themselves as antinatalists.
00:30:15.000They were like, no, no, we definitely don't want kids. We I'm not going to do this.
00:30:19.540I don't think it's good. I think it's good for the society, for a country, et cetera, et cetera.
00:30:23.360And I remember thinking, like, what a shame.
00:30:27.300Just what a shame that is to not have kids, to not want there to be younger versions of yourself, to have that joy of raising children.
00:30:36.140It's it's I mean, my my two or my five, excuse me, a five year old is sitting in the other room right now.
00:30:42.000And I can't wait to go and hang out with like a whole day planned after this.
00:30:45.740I just can't even imagine what living without that would be like.
00:30:51.520And that is the thing that's concerning to me.
00:30:53.400The effect of having less and less people who understand purpose.
00:30:58.080That is purpose to have a sacrificial love is purpose.
00:31:01.620And that extends outward into our neighbors, into our community.
00:31:05.140That sacrificial love, when we have less and less of that, we become incredibly dysfunctional because it is a society fueled by narcissism as opposed to what we were supposed to be fueled by.
00:31:17.640And the sacrificial love for our children in our community.
00:31:21.240And when we don't have that, we're seeing a rise in this.
00:31:33.240And when that's not driving you, the intentions and what's coming out of these people's mouths, I would be very incredulous towards.
00:31:40.340And when you look at how many world leaders out there right now don't have children, so many of the leaders in Europe, in Western Europe, Kamala Harris doesn't have kids of her own, that there are so many out there that don't have children.
00:31:55.600And yet somehow Angela Merkel rise all the way up to the highest levels in their country.
00:32:01.980And your questioning is, what exactly are they, what are they operating off of?
00:32:16.940And so these people are operating and they can have a certain level of empathy, but they are never going to be able to make decisions with that purpose and sacrifice and teach a purpose and teach sacrifice in the same way that people who do have children are able to do.
00:32:31.960So there's a, like when you're in the military or, or, you know, they always ask you like the secret service question, like, you know, Oh, would you, would you take a bullet for the president?
00:32:42.480Would you, it's like, well, I hope not.
00:32:43.800You know, I prefer not to like, I prefer to give the other guy bullets first, right?
00:33:24.160And I think that's something that a lot of like a lot of Gen X parents and not to, not to get on Gen X too much, but I think a lot of Gen X parents, because they, they were the latchkey kids.
00:33:33.900They, they were brought up while mom and dad are like doing drugs and yoga and like, who knows whatever else they're doing that they, and like kids downstairs watching like, you know, the Brady Bunch and Gilligan's Island or whatever.
00:33:46.500But, you know, they were like, okay, well, I'm not going to do that with my kids.
00:33:49.520Right. So they overcorrected. And so that's what led to the helicopter moms and the, this, like totally, um, protecting my kids, making them bubble boys and girls from the whole world.
00:34:03.400And it's like, no, you have to have skin knees. You have to have, uh, scraped elbows. You have to let them do stuff like that and let them fall on their own or else they're never going to learn.
00:34:13.880And then you get, that's how you get an entire generation. You see those millennials plot that are totally afraid of confrontation. They're terrified of it.
00:34:21.780Well, I, I will say, and I do, I agree with you on that point, but I do think our kids are getting scrapes and bruises in ways that we really haven't seen before.
00:34:30.740Uh, not that long ago, I was at a luncheon and it was all basically school teachers at this table and they were speaking kind of down about the students.
00:34:38.120They all have anxiety. They all have depression. They all have something. And in my mind, it's like, of course, because they are consuming more than they, we, as people were ever made to consume constantly what we're doing right now with social media.
00:34:52.320They can't get away from any of this. So while they may not be going outside and falling off their bike, our children right now are facing unprecedented scrapes and bruises on their psyche with everything they're being inundated on in this bastardization of our consciousness that I think is the most damaging.
00:35:10.500I see what you did there. I see what you did there. Different, different type of scrapes and bruises. No, I'm all for that.
00:35:17.640I'm all for, uh, banned social media. Um, if you have, by the way, we recently deleted YouTube. We just got rid of it. We got rid of it completely. There's no YouTube on any, any of the TVs or, uh, any of like we give them screen time every once in a while, like we're traveling or something, but there's no more YouTube because you know what it is. It's that he knows how to find stuff on there.
00:35:38.120And it also, I think increases, uh, or I would say decreases his attention level because he's always going to find the next video. It was like, Oh, I don't like this video anymore. I'm going to go watch the next one. I don't like this video. I want to watch the next one. He'll watch like five seconds of something. He won't sit down and watch an entire episode or entire show. And it's like, I don't like this. I don't like this at all. Plus who even knows what kind of stuff that you're able to find on YouTube.
00:36:04.460But there's, by the way, there's some great angel studios is out there. It's got some kids stuff. Um, angel studios is great. There's a great providers out there that are coming every single day for kids. And we need to start introducing that stuff and front loading it and saying, look, you know, there might be a transition period, but I say, this is someone that might, you know, my son's five, but for our younger son, I don't want him on YouTube at all ever. And I think that as not just conservatives, but as concerned parents, you don't want kids falling into these
00:36:34.280traps that you're talking about the traps that you're talking about before, because they're pushing these products and psychological changes on kids at such a young age. Come back. Final segment. Ashley St. Clair.
00:36:46.320You know, Ashley, one thing that we definitely have to talk about, and I know we get on this on the show a lot, but I want to get your take is that we've seen, it almost feels like a rise in mental illness and people with various types of mental illness throughout the country.
00:37:02.880In recent years. And I've said this before, and I think conservatives need to start talking about this issue a little bit differently and just waking up and saying, look, if you're going to have a country full of people that are on one type of mind altering pharmaceuticals or another, and at the same time, have a country that has near unlimited, or at least somewhat limited access to firearms and high powered firearms that you're
00:37:32.680going to eventually, eventually those two are going to come into contention. And we've seen horrific situations, not just at the Covenant School with Nashville, but case after case after case, Louisville. And every time there's one of these mass shootings, it feels like it comes out that, oh, the person was on some kind of medication, the person was getting treatment for something, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
00:37:55.340And obviously to use mass shootings is a pretty, pretty, um, uh, highly, highly provocative kind of, kind of take on it. But I do think that we are living through an era of high mental disorders and conservatives don't really seem like they're even willing to address this. They, they look at all of these things as if they're happening like in a vacuum. And I think it's, it's causing a lot of that.
00:38:22.600You know, there's some people over there like, oh, we got to beat the left. We got to debate the left. We got to argue to the left. It's like, nah, that's not the way I look at it is the way I look at it is there's the left and then there's the right. And then there's normies. And the name of the game is red pilling the normies. And if you can't have the discussion as to what the normies are even thinking about, then they're not going to listen to you. They're going to listen to the left and left is going to say, oh, it's guns. It's all guns. We're going to ban the guns. We've got to, and then if they can't ban the guns, then they'll ban you using the guns. And they won't even, but the left, and this is what's interesting.
00:38:51.360Because they're getting so much money from big pharma, so much money from healthcare providers these days that they will never talk about mental illness. And so I guess my question for you is, do we need to talk about the financial incentives here?
00:39:10.020Because there are massive financial incentives, not just from a social media perspective, but also from just a big pharma perspective, because there are people who, so it's pharmaceuticals starting it with birth control.
00:39:22.080But then to your point, the depression, the anxiety, psychosis, schizophrenia, these other issues that are all coming out. Well, guess what? There are people who are profiting off of misery too.
00:39:32.540Absolutely. I agree on most of these points here. And we have an unprecedented mental health crisis in the country and the media has caused it in a lot of ways. And they're also accelerating it.
00:39:44.320Kids in this country, American kids aged 13 to 18, one in five of them have been severely depressed or had a severe mental illness that has been debilitating.
00:39:54.760That is a very scary number. And when we have this number of growing people from children to adults who are mentally ill, I don't really think we should be focusing on anything else except solving this mental health crisis.
00:40:07.740And the left is really brilliant at this because they know conservatives are just going to say that's a horrible idea to have more social workers and therapists, whereas the left is causing this with the media.
00:40:18.680And they're financially incentivized to do this with the media, with big pharma.
00:40:22.840And then they're the only ones offering a solution that they know is not going to work because they know talking it out isn't going to help.
00:40:28.780They know getting on antipsychotics isn't going to help. And in fact, as you mentioned, many of these mass shootings, these people have been on these medications and they have severe side effects that many times are worse than the initial illness.
00:40:40.420But if we do not talk about it, it's never going to stop. But I don't think they're going to because it would involve an entire dismantling of the way things are run in the media and what we're consuming.
00:40:53.220If you start getting fat, you are going to look at your diet. Yet when we start getting mentally ill and we see all of these people, an unprecedented number of people becoming mentally ill,
00:41:03.880no one's talking about our mental diet and what we're consuming on a daily basis. And we were never made to consume everything that we're consuming right now.
00:41:12.120So the question is, how do we address this? And I don't really think there's anybody in our government willing to sit down and have an honest discussion about what have we done?
00:41:22.700Has this machine gotten out of control? Is there any going back? And if there's not, how do we mitigate it?
00:41:27.800Is it social workers like the left? Is it therapists? Is it psychiatric medications?
00:41:33.160There's no real honest conversation about what's happening right now.
00:41:38.240Look, I've told the story a million times, but so my father worked in a mental health facility, a state hospital in Pennsylvania for 25 plus years.
00:41:49.220And when he was retiring, when he was getting out, he actually saw the the place being shut down and they shut down building after building.
00:41:58.660There was so much defunding that was going on. And look, conservatives started this.
00:42:04.720Reagan started this. But then both sides went in on it because, hey, it's like we don't pay for something anymore.
00:42:10.320We can use that money for something else. And the whole idea was that we're going to shut down the mental facilities around the country
00:42:15.120and then move to her towards community, community health center and community health.
00:42:21.620And it's like, what does that mean? Right. Because when you're in one of those places, a guy like my dad would come by and be like, all right, you're going to take your pills.
00:42:32.240And then he would sit there and watch you. And he would say, show me under your tongue.
00:42:36.520Show me your cheek. I'm going to make sure you took your pills, took your meds.
00:42:40.080And he's in there checking out. They can't go anywhere because they have to take their pills because they've been committed.
00:42:45.120But these days, it's you go to the psychiatrist if you go and then you get your prescription and then maybe you're taking them, maybe not.
00:42:53.920But more than likely, you're, you know, one of these places like L.A. or Denver or here in Washington, D.C., up in New York, that you're you're like living under a bridge.
00:43:03.240And you're like, you know, in some kind of tent city and you're essentially just being homeless.
00:43:08.460Portland, Seattle, San Francisco, they are all over the place now.
00:43:12.220And no one's actually making sure as to whether or not these people are being helped.
00:43:16.300And we say that we're better and we say that we're being progressive by just letting these people live out on the street.
00:43:22.440Many of them then turn to self-medication through drugs and we act like actual narcotics.
00:43:28.280And then they and then we turn around and say, oh, we're egalitarian.
00:43:32.500Absolutely. And I think we do need to bring back the psych wards.
00:43:37.720But the other issue is there's a there's a growing number of relatively normal people who are having mental disorders now.
00:43:45.020So how do we combat that? Why is this happening?
00:43:48.020Why are there so many people who are crawling out of their own skin?
00:43:52.180Let me ask you a spicy question, because, Ashley, you know, I follow you on Twitter.
00:43:57.220No, you're a good follow. I recommend I recommend, Ashley, even though you get fact checked, community noted pretty often.
00:44:04.100But who doesn't? If you're not getting fact checked on a regular basis, then are you even doing anything?
00:44:08.880Um, but I've noticed some some threads with a certain some replies between you and Mr. Elon Musk.
00:44:18.920And I don't know if do you think this is something that if you started tweeting about here and there, would you ever consider maybe tagging him?
00:44:28.780Because I put it this way. We know that Elon has bought has bought Twitter.
00:44:32.240We know that he's obviously got a very different take on social media, I think, than the other folks that ran Twitter before or anyone who runs TikTok or Facebook or Instagram or any of these others.
00:44:43.900What do you think his take on this would be?
00:44:47.100And would it be something that you'd be willing to bring up with him?
00:44:50.200So I actually did tweet about this and Elon did respond about this unprecedented mental health crisis.
00:44:56.760And he said, along the lines of what you and I said, that we used to have more mental hospitals and we shut them down.
00:45:03.400And the truth of the matter is there are certain people who just who just need to be in those facilities.
00:45:08.920And that's that's the truth of the matter, which I also agree with.
00:45:12.740But I think we it's it's unempathetic to not also address the growing number of people who maybe shouldn't be in a mental facility.
00:45:20.420Should there if there were not these societal conditions contributing to the depression, the anxiety, the big pharma issues.
00:45:30.940Well, that's what I was going to get at, too, because we've we've heard.
00:45:33.760I know Senator Hawley has talked about this a little bit when he talks about social media addiction.
00:45:37.380So one of the things they get into is the gamification of social media.
00:45:42.060Right. When you look at, you know, any of these social media platforms, you get this dopamine rush when you're using it.
00:45:47.640So you you have this endless scroll, you have your, you know, your follower count, your retweets, and you're always checking, OK, how did that post do?
00:45:57.720But I don't know. I'm guilty of it as well, you know, more than anybody.
00:46:00.880And it's I guess this question of do you think that he might be open to, I don't know, introducing some of the some of possible remedies to Twitter as a service that would maybe put short circuits in in that usage so that people would know, like, hey, you've you've spent this much time on Twitter or, hey, you're you're all caught up.
00:46:25.180You can I think Instagram used to have that. They used to have like you've you've caught up.
00:46:29.940You don't need to scroll anymore. That would pop up every once in a while.
00:46:32.680So Instagram and TikTok both have had that and it really doesn't work.
00:46:37.420It doesn't stop people from spending time on the app.
00:46:39.580I think there's a bigger discussion to be had about the effects, especially on young minds.
00:46:43.660I wrote for Post Millennial a little bit ago about the lawsuit against Meta for a young girl who ended up self harming after she got an Instagram account.
00:46:55.040And it was within months of her creating an Instagram account that she was drawing photos of herself saying everyone hates me and all of these horrible words saying, you know, unalive yourself coming from her phone.
00:47:06.220And it was a really graphic drawing that this 11, 12 year old girl had drawn just months after getting Instagram and being inundated with bullying and eating disorder content.
00:47:16.960And she was herself. She developed into an eating disorder.
00:47:20.240And when I spoke to a man from the social media victims organization, there's a whole organization that will sue these social media companies for addiction and their children having issues that come up.
00:47:30.860And what really stuck out to me is he said, the incredible thing about her case, this girl who I was writing about, is that she lived to tell the tale.
00:47:38.840And he said that so many of the families that he works with, 11, 9, 13 year old kids have killed themselves.
00:48:04.600That's something that I feel like, I feel like if that were something that Elon was, was privy to, that would be something that he would consider.
00:48:12.420Because he's a guy who, and, and I'll, you know, for, you know, every once in a while, I'm like, hey man, this guy seems like a little too in with China.
00:48:19.520But, you know, he's been incredible when it comes to talking about having kids.
00:48:24.740Obviously he's got what, like a million kids or something.