Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 476： THE TRUTH ABOUT BIRTH CONTROL, POPULATION THEORY, AND THE MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS WITH ASHLEY ST. CLAIR

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00:00:30.000 Margaret Sanger was born in 1879 in New York.

00:00:39.940 She was one of 11 children born into an impoverished family.

00:00:43.560 Sanger's mother died at an early age.

00:00:45.900 Though the cause of death was listed as tuberculosis,

00:00:48.620 Margaret always attributed her mother's early death to the fact that she was weak from bearing so many children.

00:00:53.800 This deep-seated disdain for large families would encompass Margaret's life 0.67

00:00:57.700 and contribute to a belief that women should limit, or be limited, in the number of children that they have. 1.00

00:01:02.940 In 1914, Sanger started her own publication to advocate for birth control.

00:01:07.380 In 1916, she opened the first birth control clinic in the United States and Brooklyn's Brownsville neighborhood.

00:01:13.180 She was soon arrested and spent 30 days in jail. 0.67

00:01:16.100 Sanger appealed the conviction, which was not overturned.

00:01:18.860 However, the judge did make an exception to the law.

00:01:21.020 This allowed doctors to prescribe contraception for medical reasons.

00:01:25.120 This decision opened the door for the future legalization of birth control.

00:01:29.280 In 1917, Sanger began publishing her famous journal, The Birth Control Review,

00:01:33.640 which would run until 1940 and would be a haven for racists, eugenicists, and even Nazi writers.

00:01:39.340 Then, in 1921, Sanger founded the American Birth Control League.

00:01:43.620 In 1942, the board of directors voted to change the organization's name to the Planned Parenthood Federation of America.

00:01:49.660 The Birth Control Review frequently highlighted the mission of its parent organization,

00:01:54.620 quote,

00:01:55.140 to promote eugenic birth selection throughout the United States so that there may be more well-born and fewer ill-born children,

00:02:01.460 a stronger, healthier, and more intelligent race, unquote.

00:02:04.460 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this Human Events Sunday special.

00:02:09.860 We are so excited to have on Ashley St. Clair,

00:02:13.980 the author of the fantastic children's book, Elephants Are Not Birds, also a diversity hire over at the Babylon Bee.

00:02:21.460 And, Ashley, it's been remiss of me not to have you on,

00:02:24.600 but you and I were chatting, and I saw you on Tim Pool not too long ago,

00:02:30.000 and you were just ranting and raving like a crazy woman all about birth control. 1.00

00:02:37.580 What was amazing to me is that you told me, and you told the entire audience,

00:02:42.980 so many facts about birth control that I don't even think regular people had ever heard.

00:02:49.600 It's certainly stuff I had never heard of before.

00:02:51.200 I saw the audience was aghast.

00:02:53.860 People didn't even know, I didn't know, for example,

00:02:56.340 that Planned Parenthood was originally founded as a birth control organization.

00:03:00.160 So, Ashley St. Clair, welcome to the show.

00:03:03.840 Break down for us the truth behind big birth control.

00:03:08.780 Hello, hello.

00:03:09.960 Thanks for having me on, finally, Jack.

00:03:12.500 But, you know, it's interesting how little, with how many women, 1.00

00:03:16.600 we have millions and millions of women on birth control. 0.96

00:03:18.900 You can order it online now.

00:03:20.860 Most women are put on it at 13, 14, 1.00

00:03:22.860 and there's so little education about the history of birth control

00:03:26.420 and what it's currently doing to women now. 1.00

00:03:28.340 And the history of it, as you said, comes from eugenicists, like Margaret Sanger.

00:03:33.400 And it's hysterical to watch the left who wants to label everyone right-of-center Nazis,

00:03:39.420 yet all of their people that they prop up and all of these organizations that they founded

00:03:43.800 have ties to eugenics and population control.

00:03:47.360 And this is facts.

00:03:48.620 You can see this also in the decisions of Roe v. Wade.

00:03:51.480 Their decisions were influenced by population control theory.

00:03:54.880 But the issue with birth control is that there's so many women who do not understand 1.00

00:03:59.740 how bad it is for them.

00:04:01.700 And the reason being is because they're put into this mill so young.

00:04:05.780 I, myself, was put on it at 14.

00:04:08.120 And this is true for many, many women. 0.89

00:04:10.660 I had light acne.

00:04:12.220 And looking back, it was not really acne, right?

00:04:14.680 It was like killing a mouth with a rocket launcher to put me on birth control

00:04:18.420 for what my skin looked like at 14 years old.

00:04:21.600 It was very normal being a teenager and having that.

00:04:24.100 But these women are put on it for very minuscule issues like acne at 14. 1.00

00:04:28.320 They're not told about any of the dangers, despite there being Swedish studies linking

00:04:32.560 it to suicide and depression.

00:04:34.980 Women are not told about the dangers of birth control.

00:04:38.320 And they're put on it at 14, 13.

00:04:40.400 And they don't get off for decades, Jack.

00:04:42.240 Many women do not get off. 1.00

00:04:43.940 And I know when I got off and when many women get off, it's like a cloud is lifted from your 0.99

00:04:48.480 head.

00:04:49.320 Birth control really hinders your ability to think.

00:04:53.840 If you're on a hormone for basically your entire life, especially through your developmental

00:04:58.540 years, there's no way that it doesn't impact you.

00:05:02.680 Well, so obviously, I've never been on birth control, right?

00:05:07.020 I don't even know what that would do if a guy started taking it.

00:05:10.420 I guess that's-

00:05:10.760 Well, what's interesting about that-

00:05:12.020 We'll have to have Nicole on to talk about some of the detransition.

00:05:14.960 So tell me about, though, I guess, what's it like, if you can describe that to us?

00:05:21.780 So I'll go to your point about men being on birth control first. 0.90

00:05:25.440 They actually tried male birth control studies, and they had to stop them because when men 0.98

00:05:30.140 reported the same symptoms that women have currently on birth control, they had to stop

00:05:34.920 the studies because they were too intense for men.

00:05:37.880 Yes.

00:05:38.300 So this was tried.

00:05:39.860 And the original studies for birth control for women were done in poor Puerto Rican areas.

00:05:44.960 Where the women wouldn't complain, and there wasn't going to be too much of a fuss or a

00:05:49.760 tizzy about these side effects.

00:05:51.720 But it makes women depressed. 1.00

00:05:53.640 There is an undeniable correlation between the birth control pill, depression, higher rates

00:05:59.520 of suicide, weight gain. 0.96

00:06:01.860 It makes women fat and psychotic. 1.00

00:06:04.380 Well, so I remember, of course, by the way, if and for folks who don't remember the history 0.94

00:06:09.900 of the 2016 election, these actually were headlines that were written by Milo Yiannopoulos when

00:06:16.460 he was still at Breitbart, that Hillary Clinton went and gave a speech about attacking it as

00:06:22.940 saying, oh, let's look at this far right misogynist.

00:06:25.920 Look what he's saying about birth draw.

00:06:27.060 Of course, we know that Hillary Clinton's entire career was indelibly tied to Planned

00:06:33.100 Parenthood.

00:06:33.760 But now what's amazing to me is that, and you were actually the one who was telling me

00:06:38.060 about this, is that these very same side effects are actually going viral on TikTok.

00:06:43.540 And it's not Milo doing it.

00:06:45.580 It's young women that are now talking about birth control. 0.52

00:06:49.560 But here we are almost, not quite a decade later, but almost a decade later, eight years

00:06:53.700 later saying the exact same things.

00:06:56.660 But it's not in any kind of political context.

00:06:59.140 It's coming from the context of just young girls actually talking about this openly for

00:07:04.060 the first time.

00:07:05.180 I do have hope there is this trend on TikTok going around of women, especially Gen Z, ditching 1.00

00:07:11.760 the pill.

00:07:12.540 And I think they're finally getting to the point where they realize so much of what was

00:07:16.200 sold to them through feminism was not helpful towards women. 1.00

00:07:19.540 It was actually, in many ways, a war on women for us to be taking these hormones for decades 0.88

00:07:25.500 on end, just for primarily the benefit of men.

00:07:29.640 And so I think there's a lot of women who are rejecting this.

00:07:32.220 I think there is going to be more of a move towards abstinence as well, because even issues

00:07:36.660 like abortion, you can debate the morality of abortion all day, but nobody really talks

00:07:42.420 about the negative impacts that abortion has on women.

00:07:45.140 And that, to me, is the most sinister part of the left's push for abortion, is that they're

00:07:51.360 not educating women on the real effects of abortion on their psyche, on their body.

00:07:57.400 Instead, they're saying, shout your abortion. 0.81

00:07:59.000 And it's no different than birth control.

00:08:00.860 It's a great alternative if you miss a pill.

00:08:04.120 Well, and it's clearly, and even if you look at the history of Planned Parenthood, like we're

00:08:08.220 talking about here, that it was originally founded as a birth control federation, that

00:08:13.540 they pitch abortions use as a form of birth control, as just another form of birth control

00:08:20.640 that's being given out.

00:08:22.160 So, OK, you know, the pill didn't work and IUD didn't work.

00:08:26.340 Well, if you still got pregnant, then don't worry, we can we can take care of that in the 1.00

00:08:31.020 first place.

00:08:31.480 So, to me, it almost sounds like what you're saying is that the agenda all along isn't

00:08:37.640 necessarily about helping women.

00:08:40.360 It's actually anti-children.

00:08:43.740 Yes, absolutely.

00:08:44.960 It is anti-children and in many ways it's anti-women because women are the ones who are having these 1.00

00:08:50.640 side effects.

00:08:51.860 Women who got abortions, they did a study, a majority of women who got abortions in this

00:08:57.180 study were put on psychiatric medications that they were not on previously.

00:09:01.480 And despite having no history of mental illness, 100 percent of respondents in this study

00:09:07.820 reported zero positive side effects from their abortion.

00:09:13.840 Zero positive side effects.

00:09:16.280 And this is not spoken about at all.

00:09:19.220 They do not speak about and, you know, it's it's very easy to demonize people who are making

00:09:23.880 decisions that we don't agree with.

00:09:25.500 But for the most part, these women are being manipulated that this is easy. 1.00

00:09:28.740 This is women's rights. 1.00

00:09:29.880 This is reproductive rights when it is the opposite. 1.00

00:09:34.480 So what's interesting to me is that you're you're making an anti-abortion argument, not

00:09:38.900 necessarily from a faith based perspective or the from the rights of the child, but you're

00:09:45.380 actually making it from the perspective of of females. 1.00

00:09:49.500 You're making a pro-female argument against abortion, which is something that I don't even

00:09:54.140 hear this from the pro-life community.

00:09:55.400 And that's not a knock on them, but it's just a totally different angle on the entire

00:10:00.180 situation.

00:10:02.160 No, because what's happening is they want you to they want women and all of us to be

00:10:07.040 slaves to the workforce for as long as we can.

00:10:09.840 That's why you have these.

00:10:10.940 There's nothing more sinister to me.

00:10:12.700 And I don't know why there's not more women outraged over this, that Starbucks and all 1.00

00:10:17.980 of these big corporations, Facebook, are offering to pay for your abortion so that you can work

00:10:23.600 for them longer.

00:10:25.080 How is that freedom?

00:10:26.660 How is that reproductive freedom? 0.89

00:10:28.780 Well, they'll say that it's it's freedom because you don't depend on a man to be your

00:10:35.920 the breadwinner.

00:10:37.100 So therefore, you're able to get out of the house.

00:10:39.260 You can have children.

00:10:40.240 And this is the whole marketing pitch of Planned Parenthood.

00:10:42.240 We've got about two minutes left in the segment.

00:10:44.060 But the whole marketing pitch is, oh, well, you can have kids on your own schedule this

00:10:50.720 way and you won't be forced to have a child.

00:10:53.040 Or as Barack Obama once famously said, if one of my daughters gets pregnant, they're not

00:10:57.700 going to be punished with a baby.

00:11:00.800 It's horrible. 0.97

00:11:01.980 And it's an attack on women.

00:11:03.700 It's an attack on the family unit.

00:11:05.360 It is an attack on what makes us happiest as women is to nurture and care for our children.

00:11:11.520 And I think there's a lot of women who don't want to accept this because they would have

00:11:14.940 to accept that they bought into a lie.

00:11:17.480 And I really think that's where this cognitive dissonance comes from.

00:11:21.440 When you see it in so many magazines, right?

00:11:23.540 The fulfilled woman, sex in the city, you're riding the subway, you're the girl boss. 0.99

00:11:31.240 Yeah. 0.51

00:11:31.440 Which I mean, you are kind of a girl boss, like I got to say, but you're also a mom, but

00:11:38.160 you're also a mom.

00:11:39.060 And that's something that I think people don't realize because, and actually funny enough

00:11:43.360 when my mom was on Tim Pool one time because she had come with us, we were at something

00:11:48.080 together and she talked about how she had had my brother and myself when she was in

00:11:54.120 her early twenties and then went on to have a great career.

00:11:57.500 And she said, look, I spent a lot of time with you guys when you were young.

00:12:01.020 Then when you got older, I went back to school, got a higher degree, continued working for

00:12:04.800 a company and went on to have a great career.

00:12:07.680 And this idea that, oh, women aren't good enough. 1.00

00:12:10.760 You can't have all of it.

00:12:11.900 That doesn't strike me as something that's even a pro woman statement to begin with.

00:12:15.000 No, they have told us as women that the only way we'll be good enough is if we do the same

00:12:20.780 job as men.

00:12:22.140 The same exact job, Ashley, hold that thought because I have so many more questions.

00:12:27.480 I want to get into you the war on womanhood, the truth about birth control in America.

00:12:33.860 Stay tuned.

00:12:34.200 We'll be right back here at human events, Sunday special.

00:12:37.840 And we're back human events, Sunday special with the lovely Ashley St.

00:12:41.860 Claire. Now, Ashley, when we first were chatting about this, you were talking about how they

00:12:48.760 present this dichotomy to young women today that you can either have a family or have a

00:12:56.000 career. And they don't really necessarily come out and say it, but you see this in movies.

00:13:01.500 You see it in sitcoms.

00:13:03.000 Like, of course, Sex and the City is probably the biggest one.

00:13:05.980 They say, if you want to be a fulfilled and fully actualized woman, a modern woman, that you have

00:13:13.460 to have a career and you can't possibly have a family, you can't possibly have children.

00:13:17.580 There's no way you can do both.

00:13:20.660 And your point is, I think, that not only is that a lie, but also there are so many people that are

00:13:27.600 essentially benefiting from this.

00:13:30.960 Can you walk us through that?

00:13:31.820 Yes. It's essentially just a sinister rebranding of greedy corporatism, in my opinion.

00:13:38.780 They have told us that you can't afford to have a family because they've made it that way for many

00:13:43.760 in this country. You absolutely should be able to work and have a family and have children.

00:13:49.180 But unfortunately, they have made that very difficult to do.

00:13:53.300 And it's a weird place to be in to want to promote family values and tell women you should have 1.00

00:13:58.260 children. But at the same time, they've made it very difficult for women to be able to provide 1.00

00:14:03.240 for their families or just one parent to be able to provide.

00:14:06.300 It's very rare nowadays that you can have just one parent, one person in the household,

00:14:11.700 go out and work and still be able to provide for a family.

00:14:15.100 That is rare to see nowadays.

00:14:18.140 Well, and not only you're right, because the high cost of child care is absolutely through the roof.

00:14:23.180 And, you know, even when when Tanya Tay and I are looking at different things, like we

00:14:27.440 we have our kids in a in like a language program.

00:14:31.820 And even that I remember looking at it sometimes like, whoa, you know, it's only a couple hours a day.

00:14:37.200 And and how much are we paying for this thing?

00:14:39.260 Like, do they really need to learn different languages?

00:14:41.120 But obviously we want them to learn different languages.

00:14:43.760 But it's it definitely jumped out at me.

00:14:46.020 I got a little sticker shock.

00:14:46.980 It's kind of like, well, pretty much everything, everything right now, when you go when you go

00:14:51.340 out to eat, when you go anywhere, you're getting sticker shock right now because of

00:14:54.020 Biden inflation.

00:14:55.380 I'm like, I did not eat eighty dollars worth of food.

00:14:59.860 No, no way.

00:15:01.980 And I had like a rap.

00:15:04.440 And though at the same time, what what gets me is you you say that this is based on corporatism.

00:15:10.980 And I think what what I constantly see is and I'm seeing a lot of pushback now, and maybe

00:15:16.740 you can speak to this about some of these new these new trends that we're seeing come

00:15:20.800 up, like the trad wife or pro family values, these different trends that are coming up

00:15:26.200 on on TikTok and Instagram and different things out there with Gen Z, because I'm seeing a lot

00:15:33.180 of people push back on this and say, number one, just because you are giving up a family,

00:15:41.000 that doesn't mean you're attaining freedom.

00:15:42.520 What it means is that you're you're lashing yourself to enslavement with a corporation

00:15:47.840 for eight hours a day for your nine to five, plus another two hours of commuting.

00:15:51.940 So great.

00:15:52.740 You've given up something that could be a joy in your life for the ability to what work

00:15:57.100 in a cubicle and have an email job.

00:15:59.060 Um, and then number two, I'm seeing and I see this even even more broadly, not just

00:16:04.980 young women, but Gen Z. 0.99

00:16:07.480 And in general, I think I've seen a lot of people saying that Gen Z is saying we want 0.98

00:16:12.120 to strike a balance between work and life.

00:16:16.300 And that's something that a lot of other generations have really pushed aside.

00:16:20.560 Oh, you work 80 hours a week, 90 hours.

00:16:22.660 I've heard I can think of myself doing that.

00:16:24.240 I'm saying, oh, I put in this many hours this week.

00:16:26.400 I put in that many hours this week.

00:16:27.840 And look, like I like to work, but now that I have kids, it's definitely something I think

00:16:32.120 about more because it's like, look, you get 24 hours in a day, but how are you spending

00:16:35.320 them?

00:16:35.940 So talk to me about some of these new trends that you're seeing arise.

00:16:40.740 You know what I think it is?

00:16:42.000 I think you're absolutely right.

00:16:43.340 I think that Gen Z, especially Gen Z women are really pushing back on this. 0.99

00:16:47.480 But what did Gen Z grow up with that the other generations didn't? 0.53

00:16:51.200 Hardcore pornography?

00:16:53.980 No.

00:16:56.160 That's pretty much everywhere.

00:16:57.360 The internet.

00:16:58.080 The internet.

00:16:59.080 And what happened with the internet.

00:17:00.260 That's what I said.

00:17:01.400 It's the same thing.

00:17:03.260 What happened with the internet is you were able to be inundated.

00:17:06.060 The last episode of Human Events Daily, everyone.

00:17:08.400 You were able to be inundated with advertisements and branding all of the time.

00:17:14.760 So Gen Z has a really uncanny ability to pick out ads and rebranding and marketing. 0.92

00:17:20.040 And I think a lot of Gen Z is picking up on this rebranding of their greedy corporatism.

00:17:25.260 And they're saying, wait, you don't actually want us to be girl bosses.

00:17:29.560 You just want us to work for you.

00:17:31.420 You just want us to make you more money.

00:17:33.140 So I think they're picking up on that.

00:17:35.380 And there's pushback and there's anger.

00:17:38.660 I am seeing a lot of despair from women in my generation who are saying, this can't be it.

00:17:44.520 This can't be the future for us.

00:17:46.540 That we have to choose between freezing our eggs at Facebook or raising a family and having that ability to be a woman. 0.93

00:17:54.460 Do the only thing that sets us apart for men, right?

00:17:57.660 We are how all of the people come into this world.

00:18:00.200 And many women are not able to live that purpose and live that life of sacrifice. 1.00

00:18:05.480 That is what being a mother or being a parent is.

00:18:08.040 It's a sacrificial love that is very, it doesn't mesh with this narcissistic society that we've created.

00:18:16.160 That's actually cool to hear.

00:18:17.560 I was going to make another comment, but that's actually pretty cool to hear.

00:18:20.260 No, I genuinely appreciate hearing that that's something that's coming back into the world.

00:18:26.120 The importance of family, the importance of having that kind of unity, especially when we live in such a disassociated world where, okay, you know, everything exists through a screen.

00:18:37.080 And I was being flippant about it earlier about the rise in hardcore pornography and the accessibility of it, right?

00:18:43.260 When I was a kid, you know, you would have to go and at the video rental store, right, which was a thing that existed for you, you whippersnappers.

00:18:52.120 Um, and there was always like, there was always like this, this curtain in the back of the store that went into another back room and it was always like, oh, what's back there?

00:19:02.120 And it's like, oh, you're not allowed to know.

00:19:03.320 That's, that's not for kids.

00:19:04.380 That's adults only.

00:19:05.140 And you would see it might, it might actually say adults only, or, you know, the back row of the magazine rack.

00:19:10.260 And so you, you were sort of aware that there was another, you know, like another portion of, uh, the store, but you know, you, you weren't allowed to go back in there.

00:19:18.900 And of course, like when you get like 12, 13, you would try to like peak or something.

00:19:23.140 That was just normal.

00:19:23.920 But, but now, now it's in your face and it's everywhere, but also, okay.

00:19:29.620 And let me, let me put it at you this way because of the rise of social media, it's given us.

00:19:35.120 So we've, we've stripped away the ideals of privacy, right?

00:19:38.260 So this idea that everyone's, you know, whatever you do is in the privacy of your own home, et cetera, et cetera.

00:19:42.200 But we don't have privacy of our, in our own homes anymore because everybody's living out their lives on social media.

00:19:46.600 Myself, obviously included.

00:19:48.700 Um, you, you follow Tanya Taze, for example, like you literally like track all of us.

00:19:53.900 I always ask her, by the way, I say, can you just wait like a day until we leave somewhere before you start posting all of the videos?

00:19:59.620 About what we were doing just so that, you know, Antifa and the left can't track us down.

00:20:03.600 But I think there's something that's going on.

00:20:06.620 And this is my thesis is that because of the loss of privacy and the growth of social media, it's that you can see lifestyles now through social media.

00:20:19.720 And so you can almost go in and instead of seeing the lifestyle of your neighborhood or the people that go to your church or the people that are immediately around you,

00:20:28.980 the people that are at your school now through social media, you can see the entire vast array of lifestyles that are out there at the moment.

00:20:36.580 And then you can kind of decide which one seems to make sense or which one seems to be an absolute failure.

00:20:42.300 Like you can look at someone's life and say, boy, that, that looks terrible.

00:20:45.840 That looks horrible.

00:20:47.340 And then, of course, you know, obviously we're talking about Benny Johnson.

00:20:52.120 And then I was thinking of Benny's blackout coffee commercial where he's like, oh, and I did not see that one.

00:21:02.200 And I was hilarious.

00:21:03.160 You got to watch it.

00:21:03.680 And I'll see if I can put it in post.

00:21:06.000 But no, no, no, it's that you can sell like, OK, here's someone who lives with their family and here's someone who is going to church and they have a stable family.

00:21:13.820 And this one, it just seems better versus you can see people who have these sort of broken lives, who are depressed, who are angry all the time.

00:21:21.060 And you can sort of you can try it on almost for size by following someone on social media.

00:21:25.860 And I think you're seeing people opt out.

00:21:28.060 This is a very long way of stating this.

00:21:30.040 And I haven't even really put it down in words yet.

00:21:32.080 But I think it's the first time I mentioned it.

00:21:33.600 But I think it's one of the reasons that you're seeing the rise of these trends, because they can see they can see what works and what doesn't.

00:21:41.800 Basically, I put it this way for myself.

00:21:43.920 When I was in the military, the last unit I was in was pretty, pretty high up tempo, high mission speed.

00:21:50.400 I mean, you were traveling a lot.

00:21:52.240 You were going out, attaching to some cool guy units, go into different parts of the world, doing cool guy stuff and, you know, high speed, low drag, all that stuff.

00:22:01.060 And I remember that there were guys in the unit that had been in for 15 years, 20 years, 25 years.

00:22:08.340 And they had the, I mean, absolute coolest war stories.

00:22:12.340 I mean, Iraq, Afghanistan, parts unknown, parts of Africa, parts of Asia.

00:22:17.140 And it's like, wow, you guys did that really cool stuff.

00:22:20.520 But at the same time, the one thing I noticed was that their family life, their home lives all sucked.

00:22:27.500 Their kids hated them. 0.89

00:22:29.360 They were totally just committed to their work, committed to their job.

00:22:33.560 And they didn't really have anything going for them outside of that.

00:22:37.620 And I remember thinking, you know, that's, it's fun and it's awesome.

00:22:42.380 And, you know, I got some cool stories that, you know, you're at Guantanamo Bay.

00:22:46.160 But at the same time, I remember thinking that, yeah, I don't know if I want to do this forever because that's not the life I envisioned for myself.

00:22:54.400 Well, and that's the, that's the dangerous part about social media and specifically celebrities and idolizing people that have followings.

00:23:02.220 Right. And Bo Burnham spoke about this a lot in his performances, but it's the me generation who was told, express yourself.

00:23:09.820 Everyone cares about what you have to say.

00:23:11.660 And then they grew up and they realized nobody really cares about what they have to say.

00:23:15.220 So they flocked to these entertainers and these performers.

00:23:18.380 And most of these people really aren't giving a true look into their lifestyles and what they're doing.

00:23:26.200 And instead, these people are chasing these desires of fame and money and the luxury cars.

00:23:32.220 Which is all very vapid and narcissistic.

00:23:35.220 And the media, in my opinion, has bastardized our consciousness and what we value as humans, as a society.

00:23:44.440 It's, it's all over the place.

00:23:48.140 No, I think you're exactly right.

00:23:49.520 We're, we're coming up on a break here, but I really want to get back into something you mentioned earlier in the show about Roe v. Wade.

00:23:57.460 And I've seen you talk about this before.

00:23:59.120 You're the only person who I've seen talk about this, which is crazy to me because I've been going to the March for Life since I was in high school.

00:24:06.960 I've been a member of obviously the Catholic Church, but then also the pro-life movement.

00:24:10.760 And I've never heard the specific take that you've given on this.

00:24:16.600 And that's why, folks, we're talking to Ashley St. Clair.

00:24:19.940 She works over at the Babylon Bee.

00:24:21.500 She is a diversity hire over there.

00:24:23.460 She is also the author of the children's book, Elephants Are Not Birds.

00:24:28.140 Which, by the way, I have read that to both Jack-Jack and AJ out of all the brave books where I also have one up.

00:24:34.000 That is probably the one they ask for the most.

00:24:36.700 So stay tuned right there.

00:24:37.400 We'll come right back.

00:24:37.800 And we're back.

00:24:41.000 Ashley St. Clair.

00:24:41.900 Now, Ashley, we were talking before the break about Roe v. Wade.

00:24:45.620 And you mentioned in the beginning to this about this idea that Roe v. Wade, the actual decision at the Supreme Court, was influenced by population theory.

00:24:58.220 Now, I know you broke this down on Tim Pool, but can you walk us through that again?

00:25:01.280 Because I've never heard this before.

00:25:03.240 Yes, there's a fantastic book on the entire abuse of discretion that was Roe v. Wade.

00:25:10.180 And the book is called Abuse of Discretion.

00:25:12.060 And it really breaks down all of the ways that Roe v. Wade was an abuse of discretion in many ways, just on judicial and precedent matters.

00:25:21.440 And one of the things they talk about is clerk notes that we're citing populationist theory and population control theory in these decisions on Roe v. Wade.

00:25:31.740 And that is what stuck out to me the most, because what that says, you know, you can go again, you can go back and forth all day on the majority of abortion.

00:25:39.160 But any ounce of population control theory influencing this means that the people at the highest echelon making the decisions for us at the Supreme Court think that it is better.

00:25:51.220 They would like us to be dead.

00:25:54.020 That is what it tells me, that they think there are people who are more deserving to live than others and that they think you don't deserve to have a family.

00:26:02.680 You shouldn't have a family. We have too many people. And that, to me, was the most sinister part of all of this.

00:26:08.540 Yes, it's sinister to convince women that they shouldn't have children in general. 0.94

00:26:12.420 But if it's influenced by this global idea that we need less people, that, to me, is inherently evil.

00:26:20.840 Right. So I pulled it up here. It's what is population theory?

00:26:24.000 Population theory is Malthusian population theory that suggests a reduction in the population pressure on existing resources through emigration or just a reduction in the population in general could trigger a rise in birth and survival rates in the sending population.

00:26:42.680 So it's actually this idea that if you reduce the population that you'll basically this, there's too many people for the resources that we have on Earth right now.

00:26:54.580 There's too many people for the food supply. There's too many people for the energy supply.

00:26:58.840 So in order for the survival of the species long term, you actually have to kill off a certain perspective or a certain percentage of the species or allow for the fact that if you're going to take this to the next level, which we know that Margaret Sanger did, then you want to make sure that certain parts of the population don't procreate.

00:27:20.540 Right. So you're talking about I'm not just talking about if you have mental illness.

00:27:24.400 I'm talking about what they would call undesirables and this idea that you're you're basically you you are conducting eugenic population control by taking social experimentation and then introducing it to whether you're a minority, whether you're someone who they believe is a you know, if you're sub 100 IQ, this type of thing that you're going in and sterilizing people.

00:27:48.960 Or in these cases, of course, making sure that those people get birth control and go in for eventually abortion because and I'll read back again here.

00:27:59.800 The growth they believe Malthusians believe that the growth of the food supply or other resources is linear, which eventually reduces living standards to the point of triggering a population decline.

00:28:09.980 But actually, aren't we actually seeing the opposite right now? Because now we have declining birth rates and a declining population and it ain't just us.

00:28:18.660 You see China, they're going off a cliff with this thing because China went crazy with Malthusianism when they went for the one child policy from 1980 all the way up to 2016.

00:28:27.700 They just started getting away from this because they realize how bad things are. Japan is seeing this. Russia is seeing this. Western Europe is seeing this.

00:28:34.920 You've got countries out there like Poland and Hungary. We had Tanya on the show when we were in Budapest after we actually sat down with Orban and had this discussion with him about how there are positive ways to grow your country.

00:28:46.960 So you don't need to open borders. And yes, and what's crazy to me is, and I think this came out in that episode, but did you realize that in Hungary, they didn't even ban abortion.

00:28:57.040 They just created the economic incentives for people to grow families and that the abortion rate dropped on its own. Isn't that amazing?

00:29:07.900 Yes. And like you said, the truth of the matter is there are plenty of resources. There is plenty of food and we can fit a whole lot more people here and be just fine.

00:29:19.860 Countries like Japan are going to get hit hard. We're going to get hit hard by this declining birth rate.

00:29:24.420 We're not going to see these effects immediately. We're going to see these decades down the line.

00:29:28.380 And isn't it interesting, Jack, that the answer for so many issues on the left is just don't have children.

00:29:35.400 The climate's getting bad. Don't have kids. The economy's bad. Don't have kids.

00:29:42.440 So what you're saying is they they're in search of this answer.

00:29:47.660 So they're in search of a problem that gives them that answer because they've already started from that.

00:29:51.280 You're trans. Don't have kids. Sterilize yourself. 1.00

00:29:54.420 How is it the answer to all of these things to not have children?

00:29:57.840 That is the cure for so many of these issues. How is that the cure?

00:30:02.020 Well, and you even had in the past so many celebrities out there.

00:30:05.880 Look at like Ashley Judd and others who were coming out and saying that they were just straight up promoting themselves as antinatalists.

00:30:15.000 They were like, no, no, we definitely don't want kids. We I'm not going to do this.

00:30:19.540 I don't think it's good. I think it's good for the society, for a country, et cetera, et cetera.

00:30:23.360 And I remember thinking, like, what a shame.

00:30:27.300 Just what a shame that is to not have kids, to not want there to be younger versions of yourself, to have that joy of raising children.

00:30:36.140 It's it's I mean, my my two or my five, excuse me, a five year old is sitting in the other room right now.

00:30:42.000 And I can't wait to go and hang out with like a whole day planned after this.

00:30:45.740 I just can't even imagine what living without that would be like.

00:30:49.180 But doesn't that motivate you, Jack?

00:30:51.520 And that is the thing that's concerning to me.

00:30:53.400 The effect of having less and less people who understand purpose.

00:30:58.080 That is purpose to have a sacrificial love is purpose.

00:31:01.620 And that extends outward into our neighbors, into our community.

00:31:05.140 That sacrificial love, when we have less and less of that, we become incredibly dysfunctional because it is a society fueled by narcissism as opposed to what we were supposed to be fueled by.

00:31:17.640 And the sacrificial love for our children in our community.

00:31:21.240 And when we don't have that, we're seeing a rise in this.

00:31:24.380 Everything you do, right, Jack?

00:31:25.720 You think about your kids.

00:31:27.080 You think about making this world, this country a better place for your children.

00:31:31.520 And that's what's driving you.

00:31:33.240 And when that's not driving you, the intentions and what's coming out of these people's mouths, I would be very incredulous towards.

00:31:40.340 And when you look at how many world leaders out there right now don't have children, so many of the leaders in Europe, in Western Europe, Kamala Harris doesn't have kids of her own, that there are so many out there that don't have children.

00:31:55.600 And yet somehow Angela Merkel rise all the way up to the highest levels in their country. 0.92

00:32:01.980 And your questioning is, what exactly are they, what are they operating off of?

00:32:07.020 What are they working for?

00:32:07.940 Jack, do you believe that you could teach anybody that sacrificial love you have for your children?

00:32:15.080 No.

00:32:15.220 Or that's something?

00:32:16.220 No.

00:32:16.940 And so these people are operating and they can have a certain level of empathy, but they are never going to be able to make decisions with that purpose and sacrifice and teach a purpose and teach sacrifice in the same way that people who do have children are able to do.

00:32:31.960 So there's a, like when you're in the military or, or, you know, they always ask you like the secret service question, like, you know, Oh, would you, would you take a bullet for the president?

00:32:42.480 Would you, it's like, well, I hope not.

00:32:43.800 You know, I prefer not to like, I prefer to give the other guy bullets first, right?

00:32:48.060 In the situation.

00:32:50.360 But, you know, I don't know.

00:32:53.660 Right.

00:32:54.500 Obviously that's never, never the goal, but like, but then when I think about that for my kids, you don't have to think about it.

00:33:01.780 You don't think about anything.

00:33:03.160 It's of course I would.

00:33:03.960 Of course, like how many, how many bullets do I have to take?

00:33:06.680 Right.

00:33:06.940 You know, all of the bullets, like I, I would do anything to spare my kids one moment of, of, of that type of pain.

00:33:17.760 I'm not saying by the way that you should take all challenges away from kids because that's different.

00:33:22.100 You do want to introduce challenges.

00:33:24.160 And I think that's something that a lot of like a lot of Gen X parents and not to, not to get on Gen X too much, but I think a lot of Gen X parents, because they, they were the latchkey kids.

00:33:33.900 They, they were brought up while mom and dad are like doing drugs and yoga and like, who knows whatever else they're doing that they, and like kids downstairs watching like, you know, the Brady Bunch and Gilligan's Island or whatever.

00:33:46.500 But, you know, they were like, okay, well, I'm not going to do that with my kids.

00:33:49.520 Right. So they overcorrected. And so that's what led to the helicopter moms and the, this, like totally, um, protecting my kids, making them bubble boys and girls from the whole world.

00:34:03.400 And it's like, no, you have to have skin knees. You have to have, uh, scraped elbows. You have to let them do stuff like that and let them fall on their own or else they're never going to learn.

00:34:13.880 And then you get, that's how you get an entire generation. You see those millennials plot that are totally afraid of confrontation. They're terrified of it.

00:34:21.780 Well, I, I will say, and I do, I agree with you on that point, but I do think our kids are getting scrapes and bruises in ways that we really haven't seen before.

00:34:30.740 Uh, not that long ago, I was at a luncheon and it was all basically school teachers at this table and they were speaking kind of down about the students.

00:34:38.120 They all have anxiety. They all have depression. They all have something. And in my mind, it's like, of course, because they are consuming more than they, we, as people were ever made to consume constantly what we're doing right now with social media.

00:34:52.320 They can't get away from any of this. So while they may not be going outside and falling off their bike, our children right now are facing unprecedented scrapes and bruises on their psyche with everything they're being inundated on in this bastardization of our consciousness that I think is the most damaging.

00:35:10.500 I see what you did there. I see what you did there. Different, different type of scrapes and bruises. No, I'm all for that.

00:35:17.640 I'm all for, uh, banned social media. Um, if you have, by the way, we recently deleted YouTube. We just got rid of it. We got rid of it completely. There's no YouTube on any, any of the TVs or, uh, any of like we give them screen time every once in a while, like we're traveling or something, but there's no more YouTube because you know what it is. It's that he knows how to find stuff on there.

00:35:38.120 And it also, I think increases, uh, or I would say decreases his attention level because he's always going to find the next video. It was like, Oh, I don't like this video anymore. I'm going to go watch the next one. I don't like this video. I want to watch the next one. He'll watch like five seconds of something. He won't sit down and watch an entire episode or entire show. And it's like, I don't like this. I don't like this at all. Plus who even knows what kind of stuff that you're able to find on YouTube.

00:36:04.460 But there's, by the way, there's some great angel studios is out there. It's got some kids stuff. Um, angel studios is great. There's a great providers out there that are coming every single day for kids. And we need to start introducing that stuff and front loading it and saying, look, you know, there might be a transition period, but I say, this is someone that might, you know, my son's five, but for our younger son, I don't want him on YouTube at all ever. And I think that as not just conservatives, but as concerned parents, you don't want kids falling into these

00:36:34.280 traps that you're talking about the traps that you're talking about before, because they're pushing these products and psychological changes on kids at such a young age. Come back. Final segment. Ashley St. Clair.

00:36:46.320 You know, Ashley, one thing that we definitely have to talk about, and I know we get on this on the show a lot, but I want to get your take is that we've seen, it almost feels like a rise in mental illness and people with various types of mental illness throughout the country.

00:37:02.880 In recent years. And I've said this before, and I think conservatives need to start talking about this issue a little bit differently and just waking up and saying, look, if you're going to have a country full of people that are on one type of mind altering pharmaceuticals or another, and at the same time, have a country that has near unlimited, or at least somewhat limited access to firearms and high powered firearms that you're

00:37:32.680 going to eventually, eventually those two are going to come into contention. And we've seen horrific situations, not just at the Covenant School with Nashville, but case after case after case, Louisville. And every time there's one of these mass shootings, it feels like it comes out that, oh, the person was on some kind of medication, the person was getting treatment for something, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

00:37:55.340 And obviously to use mass shootings is a pretty, pretty, um, uh, highly, highly provocative kind of, kind of take on it. But I do think that we are living through an era of high mental disorders and conservatives don't really seem like they're even willing to address this. They, they look at all of these things as if they're happening like in a vacuum. And I think it's, it's causing a lot of that.

00:38:22.600 You know, there's some people over there like, oh, we got to beat the left. We got to debate the left. We got to argue to the left. It's like, nah, that's not the way I look at it is the way I look at it is there's the left and then there's the right. And then there's normies. And the name of the game is red pilling the normies. And if you can't have the discussion as to what the normies are even thinking about, then they're not going to listen to you. They're going to listen to the left and left is going to say, oh, it's guns. It's all guns. We're going to ban the guns. We've got to, and then if they can't ban the guns, then they'll ban you using the guns. And they won't even, but the left, and this is what's interesting.

00:38:51.360 Because they're getting so much money from big pharma, so much money from healthcare providers these days that they will never talk about mental illness. And so I guess my question for you is, do we need to talk about the financial incentives here?

00:39:10.020 Because there are massive financial incentives, not just from a social media perspective, but also from just a big pharma perspective, because there are people who, so it's pharmaceuticals starting it with birth control.

00:39:22.080 But then to your point, the depression, the anxiety, psychosis, schizophrenia, these other issues that are all coming out. Well, guess what? There are people who are profiting off of misery too.

00:39:32.540 Absolutely. I agree on most of these points here. And we have an unprecedented mental health crisis in the country and the media has caused it in a lot of ways. And they're also accelerating it.

00:39:44.320 Kids in this country, American kids aged 13 to 18, one in five of them have been severely depressed or had a severe mental illness that has been debilitating.

00:39:54.760 That is a very scary number. And when we have this number of growing people from children to adults who are mentally ill, I don't really think we should be focusing on anything else except solving this mental health crisis.

00:40:07.740 And the left is really brilliant at this because they know conservatives are just going to say that's a horrible idea to have more social workers and therapists, whereas the left is causing this with the media.

00:40:18.680 And they're financially incentivized to do this with the media, with big pharma.

00:40:22.840 And then they're the only ones offering a solution that they know is not going to work because they know talking it out isn't going to help.

00:40:28.780 They know getting on antipsychotics isn't going to help. And in fact, as you mentioned, many of these mass shootings, these people have been on these medications and they have severe side effects that many times are worse than the initial illness.

00:40:40.420 But if we do not talk about it, it's never going to stop. But I don't think they're going to because it would involve an entire dismantling of the way things are run in the media and what we're consuming.

00:40:53.220 If you start getting fat, you are going to look at your diet. Yet when we start getting mentally ill and we see all of these people, an unprecedented number of people becoming mentally ill,

00:41:03.880 no one's talking about our mental diet and what we're consuming on a daily basis. And we were never made to consume everything that we're consuming right now.

00:41:12.120 So the question is, how do we address this? And I don't really think there's anybody in our government willing to sit down and have an honest discussion about what have we done?

00:41:22.700 Has this machine gotten out of control? Is there any going back? And if there's not, how do we mitigate it?

00:41:27.800 Is it social workers like the left? Is it therapists? Is it psychiatric medications?

00:41:33.160 There's no real honest conversation about what's happening right now.

00:41:38.240 Look, I've told the story a million times, but so my father worked in a mental health facility, a state hospital in Pennsylvania for 25 plus years.

00:41:49.220 And when he was retiring, when he was getting out, he actually saw the the place being shut down and they shut down building after building.

00:41:58.660 There was so much defunding that was going on. And look, conservatives started this.

00:42:04.720 Reagan started this. But then both sides went in on it because, hey, it's like we don't pay for something anymore.

00:42:10.320 We can use that money for something else. And the whole idea was that we're going to shut down the mental facilities around the country

00:42:15.120 and then move to her towards community, community health center and community health. 0.73

00:42:21.620 And it's like, what does that mean? Right. Because when you're in one of those places, a guy like my dad would come by and be like, all right, you're going to take your pills.

00:42:32.240 And then he would sit there and watch you. And he would say, show me under your tongue.

00:42:36.520 Show me your cheek. I'm going to make sure you took your pills, took your meds. 0.86

00:42:40.080 And he's in there checking out. They can't go anywhere because they have to take their pills because they've been committed.

00:42:45.120 But these days, it's you go to the psychiatrist if you go and then you get your prescription and then maybe you're taking them, maybe not.

00:42:53.920 But more than likely, you're, you know, one of these places like L.A. or Denver or here in Washington, D.C., up in New York, that you're you're like living under a bridge.

00:43:03.240 And you're like, you know, in some kind of tent city and you're essentially just being homeless.

00:43:08.460 Portland, Seattle, San Francisco, they are all over the place now.

00:43:12.220 And no one's actually making sure as to whether or not these people are being helped.

00:43:16.300 And we say that we're better and we say that we're being progressive by just letting these people live out on the street.

00:43:22.440 Many of them then turn to self-medication through drugs and we act like actual narcotics.

00:43:28.280 And then they and then we turn around and say, oh, we're egalitarian.

00:43:31.100 Look how progressive and good we are.

00:43:32.500 Absolutely. And I think we do need to bring back the psych wards.

00:43:37.720 But the other issue is there's a there's a growing number of relatively normal people who are having mental disorders now.

00:43:45.020 So how do we combat that? Why is this happening?

00:43:48.020 Why are there so many people who are crawling out of their own skin?

00:43:52.180 Let me ask you a spicy question, because, Ashley, you know, I follow you on Twitter.

00:43:57.220 No, you're a good follow. I recommend I recommend, Ashley, even though you get fact checked, community noted pretty often.

00:44:04.100 But who doesn't? If you're not getting fact checked on a regular basis, then are you even doing anything?

00:44:08.880 Um, but I've noticed some some threads with a certain some replies between you and Mr. Elon Musk.

00:44:18.920 And I don't know if do you think this is something that if you started tweeting about here and there, would you ever consider maybe tagging him?

00:44:28.780 Because I put it this way. We know that Elon has bought has bought Twitter.

00:44:32.240 We know that he's obviously got a very different take on social media, I think, than the other folks that ran Twitter before or anyone who runs TikTok or Facebook or Instagram or any of these others.

00:44:43.900 What do you think his take on this would be?

00:44:47.100 And would it be something that you'd be willing to bring up with him?

00:44:50.200 So I actually did tweet about this and Elon did respond about this unprecedented mental health crisis.

00:44:56.760 And he said, along the lines of what you and I said, that we used to have more mental hospitals and we shut them down.

00:45:03.400 And the truth of the matter is there are certain people who just who just need to be in those facilities.

00:45:08.920 And that's that's the truth of the matter, which I also agree with.

00:45:12.740 But I think we it's it's unempathetic to not also address the growing number of people who maybe shouldn't be in a mental facility.

00:45:20.420 Should there if there were not these societal conditions contributing to the depression, the anxiety, the big pharma issues.

00:45:27.480 So I think it's twofold.

00:45:30.940 Well, that's what I was going to get at, too, because we've we've heard.

00:45:33.760 I know Senator Hawley has talked about this a little bit when he talks about social media addiction.

00:45:37.380 So one of the things they get into is the gamification of social media.

00:45:42.060 Right. When you look at, you know, any of these social media platforms, you get this dopamine rush when you're using it.

00:45:47.640 So you you have this endless scroll, you have your, you know, your follower count, your retweets, and you're always checking, OK, how did that post do?

00:45:56.580 How did that one do? Is that one?

00:45:57.720 But I don't know. I'm guilty of it as well, you know, more than anybody.

00:46:00.880 And it's I guess this question of do you think that he might be open to, I don't know, introducing some of the some of possible remedies to Twitter as a service that would maybe put short circuits in in that usage so that people would know, like, hey, you've you've spent this much time on Twitter or, hey, you're you're all caught up.

00:46:25.180 You can I think Instagram used to have that. They used to have like you've you've caught up.

00:46:29.940 You don't need to scroll anymore. That would pop up every once in a while.

00:46:32.680 So Instagram and TikTok both have had that and it really doesn't work.

00:46:37.420 It doesn't stop people from spending time on the app.

00:46:39.580 I think there's a bigger discussion to be had about the effects, especially on young minds.

00:46:43.660 I wrote for Post Millennial a little bit ago about the lawsuit against Meta for a young girl who ended up self harming after she got an Instagram account.

00:46:55.040 And it was within months of her creating an Instagram account that she was drawing photos of herself saying everyone hates me and all of these horrible words saying, you know, unalive yourself coming from her phone.

00:47:06.220 And it was a really graphic drawing that this 11, 12 year old girl had drawn just months after getting Instagram and being inundated with bullying and eating disorder content.

00:47:16.960 And she was herself. She developed into an eating disorder.

00:47:20.240 And when I spoke to a man from the social media victims organization, there's a whole organization that will sue these social media companies for addiction and their children having issues that come up.

00:47:30.860 And what really stuck out to me is he said, the incredible thing about her case, this girl who I was writing about, is that she lived to tell the tale.

00:47:38.840 And he said that so many of the families that he works with, 11, 9, 13 year old kids have killed themselves.

00:47:48.400 And there's no remedy for that.

00:47:50.620 And these companies know that.

00:47:52.120 And the Facebook papers showed this unequivocally, that they know the damage that's happening to our children with these products.

00:48:00.400 And they're not doing anything to stop it.

00:48:03.640 Wow.

00:48:04.600 That's something that I feel like, I feel like if that were something that Elon was, was privy to, that would be something that he would consider.

00:48:12.420 Because he's a guy who, and, and I'll, you know, for, you know, every once in a while, I'm like, hey man, this guy seems like a little too in with China. 0.98

00:48:19.520 But, you know, he's been incredible when it comes to talking about having kids.

00:48:24.740 Obviously he's got what, like a million kids or something.

00:48:27.300 He's fixing the birthright.

00:48:31.060 He, I know, right.

00:48:31.680 He's fixing it, him and Nick Cannon.

00:48:33.260 And they've got a little thing going.

00:48:35.440 And it, it strikes me as something that I don't think he'd be okay with.

00:48:41.260 Now, I don't get the impression that a lot of little kids use Twitter because it's, it's, it's mainly a text-based app.

00:48:47.240 It's not really, but we know that he's going into video.

00:48:49.480 So we know that video is going to be a big push for Twitter going forward.

00:48:53.360 So I would, I hope he learns about that.

00:48:56.280 And I hope that, that those stories, and I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to follow that up.

00:48:59.920 So producers, we're going to, we're going to see if we can get on the advocates about this because this has been incredible.

00:49:04.460 Ashley St.

00:49:04.940 Clair, what an amazing interview.

00:49:07.460 It's been remiss of us.

00:49:08.620 We've wanted to have you on for so long.

00:49:10.360 Incredible to have you here on Human Events.

00:49:13.000 Tell people your coordinates.

00:49:14.240 Where can they follow you to get more information?

00:49:16.320 They can follow me on Twitter only.

00:49:18.480 I'm not using Instagram anymore.

00:49:20.140 You can follow me on Twitter at St.

00:49:21.480 Clair, Ashley, all right, St.

00:49:23.360 Clair, Ashley.

00:49:23.940 All right.

00:49:24.220 God bless.

00:49:25.040 Hey, ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - May 21, 2023

EPISODE 476： THE TRUTH ABOUT BIRTH CONTROL, POPULATION THEORY, AND THE MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS WITH ASHLEY ST. CLAIR

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