We re in a fifth generation conflict. For every lie they tell us, we re going to get in their face and yell two truths. This is Human Events with Jack Kosobrienko, a new segment on the Poscast.
00:06:06.680DeSantis is going to be in Iowa tonight.
00:06:08.460President Trump will be headed to Iowa on Thursday.
00:06:11.640What is the shift, or is DeSantis seeing a bump in the numbers from the announcement last week on Twitter?
00:06:17.920He's doing sort of a new kickoff this week in Iowa on the ground, a more traditional kickoff after, and shall we say, a little bit outside of the box kickoff that he performed last week on Twitter.
00:06:30.840We're also going to be getting into the race on the second tier.
00:06:34.860So DeSantis right now is trying to kick out of that second tier, break through from those VP ranks.
00:06:44.420But President Trump is up in pretty much every single poll.
00:06:48.000Actually, every single poll that I've seen, and that's why we're going to have Barris on to talk about that.
00:06:52.400Then we're seeing also on the VP tier, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott battling it out in New Hampshire over the weekend, taking shots at each other.
00:07:22.560Well, I have a message for the New York Times and all the people over there who haven't even begun to get started yet.
00:07:30.740Wait until you see what we have in store for 2024 New York Times because we know that there's one thing that the regime wants.
00:07:40.600That's total control and the only way they can achieve it.
00:07:44.780The only way they can have total control is total control over the information battle space.
00:07:49.520And that is where we are standing in their way every single day, whether it's on social media, whether it's on terrestrial media, traditional media, new media, independent media.
00:08:01.020This is the rise of the independent fifth generation warfare and fifth generation warriors.
00:08:08.540It's like every single person within the sound of my voice right now because we're not going away.
00:09:29.680But I deliberately didn't pick up my phone to call you this weekend, because even though I was chomping at the bit, too, I'm like, I want to hear Richard's numbers.
00:12:34.960And some of these acronyms, by the way, to your point as well, maybe, you know, they might be familiar to those of us that follow us on a day-to-day basis.
00:12:44.140But to the casual voter, for example, man, I met last weekend in Pennsylvania with my cousins, with my, you know, we went to a horse show.
00:13:11.080But in terms of this super in-the-weeds policy discussion, I just don't know if that's the kind of stuff that connects with your casual voter.
00:13:20.060And the fact that it was online, the fact that he's covering ground, that I believe that he's already known as a champion.
00:13:27.340You want to emphasize your strengths, but you also want to show who are you when it comes to the job that you're going for, the job that you're applying for.
00:13:36.400We already know who you are about the job you have.
00:13:39.660Yeah, I think you have to in an announcement, especially if you're a governor, like you said, that's a domestic position.
00:13:46.000You have to, you know, and speaking of academia, what they would call it, you know, when I was coming up is where's the presidential justification, right?
00:13:53.640Why are you the man or the woman for this moment?
00:13:57.200And it can be only you and nobody else.
00:14:00.560And if you're a governor, especially, you have to have some kind of foreign policy chops.
00:14:05.060You have to show that you're going to be competent in that area.
00:14:07.800Now, for an announcement, you're not going to accomplish all of that.
00:14:10.760But you have to start to peel away those those layers.
00:14:14.580And then eventually you get on the campaign trail and you deliver it.
00:14:18.540Look, the fact is, I hate to say this, but I don't say this very often.
00:14:23.300I think I agree with The New York Times now that the polling and we'll have new ones released this week.
00:14:27.700Now that it's in and I can see it, Jack, this man got his bump months ago and then he mishandled Ukraine with Tucker.
00:14:36.560He mishandled how to respond to President Trump's indictment by the Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg.
00:14:43.600He he just stumbled along the way at a period when he was already getting scrutiny like a presidential candidate always gets when they finally announce.
00:14:53.120And then also for the last 48 hours, 72 hours, it's been brutal for that.
00:14:58.940It has, you know, they they made covid.
00:15:01.640They chose to make covid a centerpiece of his his campaign.
00:15:06.640And, you know, that's not really I know they view it as a strong a strong issue for him.
00:15:13.460But the fact is, there are a lot of people who don't agree that DeSantis was as quick as he should have been.
00:15:19.780So, again, he's got a small chunk right now.
00:15:22.640It's about 15 percent who says, you know what, I'm I'm mostly MAGA, but maybe I'm I'm looking to move on from Trump.
00:19:27.860But they're going to try to stop him with lawfare.
00:19:29.800This is why you're going to see a Jack Smith indictment on him, on Mar-a-Lago, for conspiracy, not the actual initial thing they went after him for.
00:19:37.860You're going to see another indictment coming out of Georgia.
00:19:42.320So you're going to see two more indictments given also the one he's got in New York.
00:19:45.060And he's saying an existential threat to the rule of law.
00:19:48.320This is the most lawless guy to reign the most lawless institution.
00:20:09.240Remember, Jack, you and I talk about the CCP all the time.
00:20:11.720President Trump disagrees with us slightly.
00:20:14.020He thinks it's a major problem, an enemy of the United States.
00:20:17.460But he says the number one existential threat to the country is the administrative state.
00:20:22.360Comey, Clapper, Brennan, all of them, they're coming for Trump in the biggest way possible.
00:20:27.660That's why we've got to be firing off the football after Trump wins.
00:20:31.280We need to we need a landing team of three to four thousand people to cash but tells the world in that deep bench and back up have to be ready to go right away.
00:20:38.280I mean, right after the election, the transition team in November, December of twenty twenty four have to be ready to go to hit the deck plates running on January 20th because it's it's going to be Stalingrad every day.
00:20:48.920And it's going to just told you he caused existential threat.
00:20:52.060These guys will do anything to stop Trump and anything to make Trump's second term untenable.
00:21:01.660This is the guy who was the quarterback of Russiagate, the quarterback of Steve of the Steele dossier, the quarterback of the investigations, which, of course, his firing then tees up the Mueller investigation.
00:21:12.560Because, Steve, you know, when we started the show playing this, I know you and I were chatting over the weekend about these drone swarm attacks.
00:21:18.420We saw these kamikaze drones, drone swarms raining down waves of them on Kiev and Ukraine responds with drones.
00:21:27.260And these are on wealthy suburbs of Moscow.
00:25:11.600So, when you and I had left off, when you and I had left off, you were talking about these numbers that we're looking at, the movement in the numbers, the shift, or maybe shift back, in a sense, of these voters.
00:25:26.160Because, remember, we're not just talking about the key voters that have come out in a Republican primary.
00:25:32.800We're also looking at the type of voters, and I saw you tweeting about this over the weekend, and this was the one that was most fascinating to me, and I just locked onto it like a laser beam in my mind, of the Trump-Obama voter.
00:25:48.120The guy, particularly in the Rust Belt, because we know those are the key states.
00:25:53.220This was the area that those Romney, Ted Cruz, George W. Bush, McCain types, they could never play in this area.
00:26:04.460And while they could run up the percentage in a red state, they're running up the percentage in Texas, they're running up the scoreboard in so many of the red states that they're not getting the same shift that we saw in the Rust Belt.
00:26:17.420And, of course, I'd say this as the son of the state of Pennsylvania, the Commonwealth there, that we always would come, like, it would always be a nail-biter until the very end of the election in, you know, in all of those elections that we saw.
00:26:30.520And we could never get those crossover voters, and then suddenly Trump is able to pull it off.
00:26:35.300What are you seeing with those voters in particular, and then just sort of the entire board?
00:26:41.780And you just said it, there's a real lack of appreciation for what the former president was able to do in 16, and then even, if you consider, we're talking a couple of, you know, tens of thousands of votes over three different states that gave Joe Biden the presidency when, like you just said, George Bush, maybe he could get close, but he'd repeatedly fall shy.
00:27:03.720John McCain just got crushed. Mitt Romney crushed.
00:27:07.000So this is the voter that there's no evidence that anyone but Donald Trump on the Republican side can win.
00:27:14.940And, you know, I think Steve said something in the last segment that's worth repeating, which is the Jim Comey's of the world and others, people are even smarter than him.
00:27:23.920They're looking at these numbers, Jack, and what they're seeing is what I'm seeing, that this vote, there's two groups, the Trump-Obama or the Obama-Trump, whichever one you want to label it, and then the Trump-only.
00:27:35.480And what they're seeing is that without Trump on the ballot, that Trump-only vote is likely to stay home like it did again with Mitt Romney and in 18 and in 22.
00:27:47.020And then the Trump-Obama vote, which went back, you know, even some of them were Obama-Trump-Biden.
00:27:52.580And that is now back to being an Obama-Trump-Trump voter.
00:28:00.400So every time we ask people, Biden voters, who did you vote for, who would you vote for now, between 8% to 12% of Biden's vote says, I made a mistake, I'll vote for Donald Trump again.
00:28:11.800And then if you ask that of Trump voters, less than 2%.
00:28:17.960Say that they would vote for someone other than Donald Trump.
00:28:20.820So the net gain is, we're talking about millions, Jack, depending on turnout.
00:28:25.540We're talking about millions of millions of votes in a net swing back to Donald Trump.
00:28:30.860And I just want to point this one last thing out, which is if this, when we're talking about the dominant lead he has in the primary right now, yes, it's politics and yes, anything can happen.
00:28:41.780But nobody has ever had a lead this large, even this early, and went on to not be nominated.
00:28:48.360That's because there's something significant statistically about being that far above 50%.
00:28:55.220You now have to not just win undecided.
00:28:58.100You have to change people's minds who are claiming to be decided.
00:29:03.060And the sampling error gets much, much more, you know, the window is narrow.
00:29:47.560The problem, and by the way, 31 counties in Iowa alone that were Obama-Trump counties.
00:29:54.680So it's the state with the most pivot, what we call pivot counties in the country.
00:30:00.240And again, months ago, if it was two, four months ago, some of these people were looking at Ron DeSantis like a younger version of Donald Trump.
00:30:39.120Well, OK, if you're going to argue that you're going to do better with personnel, then you better put together an announcement that isn't a complete and total disaster.
00:30:47.500Very first person we talked to that night said, how are you going to run a country if you can't run a campaign?
00:31:27.140I'd like to say something about that because we've got about one minute left.
00:31:32.040And this is the danger, and I've been talking about this since November.
00:31:35.680This is the danger of igniting a civil war on the right is that what ends up happening is that you get both sides tearing each other apart and that eventually one of the camps stays home in November.
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00:34:12.460I want to get back now in with Richard Barris.
00:34:14.700Richard, we were talking before the break, and we've got about six minutes left here, a full segment.
00:34:20.140Talk to me more about these counties and the way they're viewing Governor DeSantis, these Obama-Trump counties, because I find this fascinating.
00:34:28.820I also find it interesting that the media, the political media, Politico's got a story up today saying that, oh, well, Wisconsin, it was all about abortion, and Republicans can't win now because it's about abortion.
00:34:39.760So they'll at least talk about that in terms of how Wisconsin went in 22, but they never go into and talk to the people, I've never seen them actually cover the story, as to why all of these Obama counties flipped for Trump in 16.
00:34:55.540You know, the abortion, they make a lot of that, Jack, and the truth is there is some danger with DeSantis' strategy that he makes himself unelectable in those Rust Belt states, in the Mid-Atlantic, and even in parts of the Northeast, by the way.
00:35:08.780Why does Trump do so much better in Maine, too, as opposed to other Republicans?
00:35:15.360But if we're sticking in the Rust Belt, Wisconsin, perfect.
00:35:18.660You have Sauk County, Dorr, even counties where Trump doesn't win, but he tightens the vote margin like no other Republican can do.
00:35:26.420We call it lumberjack country, Ashland, Bayfield, and the northwest of Wisconsin.
00:35:31.700And this is, you know, really comes down to, while abortion matters, this comes down to Trump being a different kind of Republican on immigration and trade.
00:35:43.700A lot of Republicans talk the talk on immigration, but not many are going to come out and release a, not only release a statement, but voters believe Trump when he says,
00:35:52.760Yes, I'm going to write an executive order that ends, you know, automatic citizenship for illegal children, to the children of illegals.
00:36:02.400But trade, you know, not for nothing, but we haven't even begun to get into it yet.
00:36:06.980When Trump goes all over the Rust Belt to Iowa and he talks to these farmers and he tells them Ron DeSantis was not a fair traitor, he was a free traitor.
00:36:16.200And he did whatever Paul Ryan told him to do, TPP, etc.
00:36:20.060That stuff may not hurt you as much in a Republican primary, although it certainly would now more than it did 10 years ago.
00:36:28.040But it will kill you in a general election.
00:36:30.660And look at counties, another one, a great one, where it's the home of the Reagan Democrats.
00:36:34.520Macomb County in Obama County, which Trump carried not once, but twice, Republicans repeatedly lose it.
00:37:32.080It's you, you, we saw this in, and look, I've said this before, since we're doing the new show, I'll say it again, that I was not a McCain voter and I was not a Romney voter.
00:37:44.060And I'm a conservative guy out of Pennsylvania, but I just didn't think those guys had what it took to actually go in and do anything.
00:37:52.680And I got to imagine that there are millions of other people out there like that that are either going to stay home, they're going to be turned off, or they're not going to just come out.
00:38:02.860And so in terms of the persuadables, sure, you can find persuadables, but that is a, that's a suburban strategy, and it's the exact same strategy these guys can.
00:38:15.020If they take one look at you and they say, you know what, this guy can actually get something done, versus, you know what, this guy's some lawyer, I don't trust him, I think he's flip-flopping left and right, they're just going to tune out and they're going to go back to work, they're going to go back to something else, they're going to go back to what they're doing.
00:38:31.140Versus, and I'm going to, by the way, on tomorrow's show, we're going to get into this more, the micro-targeting that's going on by the left on these issues of abortion, on these issues like trans, stuff that they know they can bank these ballots in because of the way that they've changed elections in our country.
00:38:49.300Why do you think that they changed these states specifically for 2020?
00:38:54.600This was their target all along, right?
00:38:57.460It's very clear from that perspective.
00:38:59.960Why was it that Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania had the most stringent lockdowns going all the way through 2020 under their Democrat governors like Bill Evers and Tom Wolf and Christian Whitmer, and why did they implement the most universal mail-in ballot?
00:39:17.280It's like, you don't have to be Richard Barris to figure that one out, kids.
00:39:20.960I mean, you'd think it's very obvious.
00:39:24.280Yeah, you'd think that would be very obvious to people, but even, you know, 2020 was one thing.
00:39:31.220Okay, so it caught you by surprise, but then 2022, it happened again.
00:39:36.200So I really can't believe that we're still here with some Republicans not understanding the game has been changed.
00:39:42.900And again, you know, there's – as you said it before, I want to bring this up.
00:39:47.360It isn't – divisive primaries are not good, especially when there are incumbents or quasi-incumbents in the race.
00:39:53.160That's why the Democrats are doing everything in their power to stop RFK from even, you know, participating in debates or they're moving up South Carolina so that there isn't closed states where people can compete or cheat.
00:40:04.840So really to wrap it up, it isn't – guys like me know it is not historically.
00:41:27.300Ladies and gentlemen, we need to have a conversation about ballot harvesting because there was a saying that they drilled into us in the military, and this was key.
00:42:33.100When you look at the stuff when it comes to whether it be Target or whether it be Bud Light, et cetera, I know we mentioned.
00:42:38.800By the way, there's some terrible people.
00:42:41.860They're doing this new thing at Target now, and I hope that nobody does this because it's just so awful, and I can't condone it, where they're actually – I've seen people going viral on the Internet saying that they're going into Target and then putting all of the Pride merchandise into one shopping cart, taking that shopping cart all the way to the checkout, going to checkout, asking – getting all the payment processing, protection.
00:43:08.320And then the minute that after it's all rung up, they say, oh, you know what?
00:43:11.660I left my wallet in the car and go out to the car and never come back.
00:43:15.440And that is just so despicable and so awful that I would never condone it for a second that we use tactics like this to defeat the left – I just would absolutely never condone such a thing personally.
00:43:28.800Not personally, I would never condone.
00:43:30.080And definitely don't wear a mask and make sure that your car is outside of camera view because, of course, the cameras will pick you up because the only person that can't be picked up on cameras is the January 6th pipe bomber, even though, actually, it turns out he was picked up on cameras.
00:43:54.080Look, our elections have changed in this country.
00:43:57.360And specifically, these key states, the ones that I was talking about with Barrist, the ones that we know are going to have to be flipped back regardless of who the nominee is, those laws are on the books now.
00:44:14.720And so what the Democrats are doing with their new laws is they've turned this whole thing into a ballot harvesting operation, micro-targeting, influencers, ballot harvesting on key issues.
00:44:29.260So you don't – people say, what's going on this millennial vote?
00:44:40.720It's about collecting enough of their ballots.
00:44:43.000What issue do you need to micro-target them on to the point where they will fill out a ballot and send it in for the candidate of your choice, the candidate that you tell them to vote for?
00:44:55.240The only person that I've seen completely gung-ho about this is Scott Pressler.
00:45:00.180And we're going to make sure that we get Scott Pressler wrong, and we're going to make sure that he is on as much as possible.
00:45:05.920And you have to give this guy as much fire support as you can politically because this is the new game.
00:45:13.400If you're upset about the debt ceiling bill, if you're upset about the border, if you're upset about whatever you're upset about, whatever it might be, right?
00:45:21.140We're going to talk about immigration more.
00:45:22.640We're going to talk about Nearsheimer's warning, this idea that the United States is currently hurtling towards a two-front global conflict.
00:45:31.480We're already in a proxy war in Ukraine.
00:45:33.180We're talking about potentially escalating the South China Sea, the Taiwan crisis, into another open conflict where we're at the point where I'm wondering,
00:45:45.580what is going to happen with these drone swarm tactics and the ability or the possibility for a U.S. aircraft carrier to lie at the bottom of the Taiwan Strait with the 5,000 sailors and officers aboard.
00:46:20.440It doesn't matter how good your messaging is.
00:46:26.840It doesn't matter how much you care about your candidate.
00:46:30.920If the other side is going to beat you tactically, if the other side is going to beat you tactically with ballots in those key strategic states that you need to win,
00:46:41.900then it doesn't matter how good your rollout is.
00:46:44.220It doesn't matter how good your statement is, your policy statement.