Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 493： TRUMP SEES POLLS SURGE IN WAKE OF INDICTMENTS

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00:00:30.000 We are in a fifth generational conflict.

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00:00:45.440 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.

00:00:49.220 He's done nothing wrong.

00:00:50.820 He said that.

00:00:51.940 This is completely politically motivated.

00:00:54.040 It's election interference at its best by a political opponent. 0.94

00:00:57.740 We cannot afford to have cowards. 0.56

00:00:59.260 We need strong people because our country is going to hell. 0.84

00:01:03.080 They're actually doubling down on their support for former President Donald Trump.

00:01:07.780 They see this indictment as further proof of every level of government and the press

00:01:13.620 are going unfairly after Trump. 0.99

00:01:16.280 I think it's a bunch of bulls**t. 0.98

00:01:18.200 Trump ain't done that wrong. 0.99

00:01:19.300 The only thing Trump done is it saved this country.

00:01:21.760 They're not going to let it stop.

00:01:23.160 They can't stand the fact that he's running for President.

00:01:26.980 And I am a Donald Trump fan.

00:01:28.900 This is so political.

00:01:30.020 In 2016, I mean, every election we've now seen this, Dana.

00:01:33.520 In 2016, it was a dossier.

00:01:35.640 In 2018, it was the Mueller investigation.

00:01:37.840 In 2020, they suppressed the Biden laptop story with the 51 former intel officials.

00:01:43.300 In 2020, he raised his home.

00:01:43.840 Let me stop you right there, sir.

00:01:45.660 First of all, I want to go back to just one of the things that you said.

00:01:48.560 And now they're indicted him before the 2024 presidential race.

00:01:51.400 It's no coincidence they indicted me the very same day it was revealed that the FBI hit explosive evidence

00:01:58.780 that Joe Biden took a $5 million illegal bribe from Ukraine.

00:02:03.780 In this whole fake indictment, they don't even once mention the Presidential Records Act,

00:02:09.660 which is really the ruling act, because they want to use something called the Espionage Act.

00:02:14.260 Doesn't that sound terrible?

00:02:15.360 Oh, espionage.

00:02:16.440 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition, Human Events with Jack Posobiec.

00:02:23.520 Today is June 12, 2023, Anno Domini.

00:02:28.080 Folks, we've got a lot going on in the world.

00:02:29.840 Taiwan secretly looking at evacuation plans for the American citizens that are there.

00:02:37.020 We're also seeing on the ground in Ukraine this counteroffensive by Ukrainian forces being bogged down by Russian minefields, Russian attacks.

00:02:45.320 We're going to get Tony Schaefer on, Lieutenant Colonel, later in the week to go through this.

00:02:49.700 Also, at this moment, at this hour, Trump Force One has taken off from the New York area, from New Jersey, Newark.

00:02:57.740 He is currently en route to Miami.

00:03:01.440 He will be landing, spending the night at Trump Doral, and then heading to the Miami Federal Courthouse.

00:03:07.700 This is the Southern District of Florida, downtown Miami, tomorrow for his arraignment, his second arraignment in just as many months as he was just in New York City, conducting another arraignment on formerly and futilely false premises, as you saw up there.

00:03:26.680 But I had to get on Mr. Raheem Kassam, who knows a little something about Trump Force One.

00:03:33.600 Raheem Kassam of the National Polls joins us now.

00:03:35.300 How are you doing, Jack?

00:03:40.660 Okay, so Raheem, tell us, you actually got to spend time with the president.

00:03:45.420 You wrote on Trump Force One.

00:03:46.980 What was the mood?

00:03:48.060 What was it like?

00:03:48.780 Walk us through it.

00:03:49.380 Paint the picture.

00:03:51.820 Yeah, well, you know, the first thing I will say about that whole operation, and it's the operation of, you know, not just being on a plane and going somewhere,

00:04:01.380 but, you know, everything getting organized in advance, everything, you know, being right for when, you know, their principal, the former president, gets there to the airport, gets on the plane, gets through the plane, gets situated.

00:04:14.140 Like, all of that stuff is so fascinating.

00:04:17.440 It's so meticulous.

00:04:19.500 You're dealing, of course, with, you know, federal authorities.

00:04:22.300 You're dealing with at least three different local sets of authorities.

00:04:26.920 You're dealing with campaign staff.

00:04:28.780 You're dealing with, you know, obviously the mercurial nature of Trump himself.

00:04:32.880 And so it's all fascinating to watch.

00:04:35.320 Oh, hey, Raheem, we're actually, let me cut you off real quick because it looks like we're hitting an audio issue on, I'm not sure if it's your end, I'm not sure if it's Rav's end.

00:04:43.920 Let's take a second.

00:04:44.840 We're going to deal with that real quick here.

00:04:46.440 But, folks, we need to understand that this indictment of President Trump, this situation that he falls into, it goes back to a larger fight between not only President Trump, but all presidents, the administrative state, the deep state.

00:05:02.100 The question is, who actually has the power in this country?

00:05:07.860 Do the elected representatives of the people have power or is power generated and held by this unelected cabal of federal bureaucrats?

00:05:19.900 That's what you're seeing here.

00:05:20.960 That's the underlying fight.

00:05:22.620 And they are spreading insane blue and on level conspiracy theories.

00:05:26.500 They are spreading insane, just tangents completely out of it because they know that this comes down to a document.

00:05:34.260 And by the way, Bill Barr, where is Bill Barr when it comes to Joe Biden?

00:05:38.600 He said, oh, President Trump is toast.

00:05:40.000 That's what Bill Barr said.

00:05:41.140 He said, President Trump is toast.

00:05:43.960 Well, the question that I would have to say is, where were you when it came to Biden?

00:05:49.420 Where were you when it came to Biden, when it came to Hunter, when it came to the laptop, when it came to the bribery,

00:05:54.660 when it came to the fact that these reports were coming in in 2017?

00:06:00.940 We knew we had him publicly speaking about this in 2017.

00:06:04.420 President Trump asked the question about it, and then it turned into his first impeachment.

00:06:10.940 And so my question for everyone out here is, my question for Bill Barr is, what are you going to do about it?

00:06:17.680 Look, you have so many people out there who, for lack of a better term, they view themselves as institutionalists.

00:06:27.440 They view themselves as the protectors of the system.

00:06:32.000 This is where you get the uniparty duopoly from, because they view their job as holding up the institutions.

00:06:39.460 And Republicans traditionally are institutionalists.

00:06:43.560 That's sort of the idea of conservatism, right?

00:06:45.300 The idea of conservatism is that we are going to preserve the status quo.

00:06:49.920 We're going to preserve civilization as it's been built.

00:06:52.600 And that includes the institutions that uphold civilization.

00:06:54.860 But what happens when every single one of those institutions becomes fundamentally corrupted?

00:07:01.480 And you get these people crawling out of the woodwork that say, well, you know, we'll go after some people here, we'll go after some people there.

00:07:07.960 But fundamentally, they're not on the side of the people.

00:07:11.560 They become more and more on the side of the institution.

00:07:16.840 And we're seeing that now because there's only one man, one man, who is actually stepping up to try to do something right.

00:07:25.800 And that is why you're going to see this death of a thousand cut strategy on President Trump.

00:07:30.860 You think this is going to be the last indictment?

00:07:33.260 There's going to be indictment here, Georgia, and then D.C. is going to come down, as we talked about with Julie Kelly last week.

00:07:38.800 D.C. is going to come down, this seditious conspiracy over January 6th.

00:07:43.960 They want to use this to go after him, to try to knock him off the ballot.

00:07:51.000 And they're not going to stop folks.

00:07:53.560 Look, and I'm going to go through a little bit later in the show.

00:07:56.500 We're going to get Raheem back up here, fix what was going on, because I want to get his information out.

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00:08:21.340 Raheem Kassam.

00:08:24.240 When I grew up in the hood, I rolled with bloods. 0.99

00:08:27.140 And them boys had a saying.

00:08:28.600 You can't be listening to all that slappy, whack, trim out his alitzabam ship, nippy-bam-bam, like Human Events with Jack Posobiec.

00:08:38.760 Okay, we are live.

00:08:40.280 Raheem Kassam had some audio issues in segment one.

00:08:42.700 I think the audience could hear him, but I couldn't hear him.

00:08:44.700 So, Raheem, if you could go back, walk us through again as we're watching Trump Force One.

00:08:48.320 It's making its way down to Miami.

00:08:50.240 You actually flew on the plane this weekend.

00:08:52.020 Yeah, that's right, Jack.

00:08:54.240 As I was saying, the process of actually how that all takes place is fascinating.

00:09:00.240 There's so many other moving parts going on all around.

00:09:03.380 Lots of different law enforcement agencies involved, federal level, local level.

00:09:07.340 And in all these different places where he went to, visiting Georgia and North Carolina in the same day from Newark, returning to Newark by the end of the day.

00:09:15.100 And the fascinating thing about all of it is his energy.

00:09:19.920 It's his energy levels.

00:09:20.980 This is a man in his 70s who was clearly the one with all of the energy left at the end of the day.

00:09:30.900 You know, you look around at the staff, you look around at the pilots and the police and all of this, and Trump's the one still going.

00:09:38.800 He's the one who still wants to blast the music.

00:09:40.880 He's the one who still wants to hang out and chat, you know, as the plane's landing and everybody's trying to go to bed.

00:09:45.660 And I have to tell you this, you know, from my interactions with him and from observing his interactions, both with the public and in the Waffle House, no less, and all across the day's events, that man is more upbeat than I think I've seen him in years and years and years.

00:10:04.560 He was so happy to be out there with people.

00:10:07.180 He was jovial.

00:10:08.240 He was jovial with us, you know, behind the scenes, you know, with the doors closed and the cameras off.

00:10:13.340 Everything was chipper.

00:10:16.180 And I think, you know, if what the deep state is trying to do here is intimidate or frustrate Donald Trump, they're doing quite the opposite.

00:10:24.240 They are energizing Donald Trump.

00:10:27.020 Well, I think that's incredible because, of course, you read the mainstream narrative on this and it's all the walls are closing in.

00:10:32.840 This is done.

00:10:33.720 He's been caught.

00:10:34.780 He's selling records to the Saudis.

00:10:37.340 And that's how Jared was able to get money.

00:10:40.260 And they've got their whole blue and on archipelago of conspiracies that all fit together and all fits together.

00:10:46.400 Now, Rachel Maddow chomping at the bit. 0.97

00:10:48.240 And then you go and look at these videos and he's he's shaking hands with a woman in a wheelchair.

00:10:54.140 He's going to a Waffle House.

00:10:56.420 He's and quite frankly, I would actually go and say this and you were there.

00:10:59.900 So maybe you could a different take than me.

00:11:02.020 But just watching it from afar, it to me, those events or those moments of him interacting with people even overshadowed the actual speeches themselves.

00:11:11.520 Oh, yeah, I mean, massively so as good as the speeches in Georgia.

00:11:17.960 Yeah, I'm not I'm not putting down the speeches, but yeah, no, but you're right.

00:11:21.960 As as as well as they were received in Georgia and North Carolina, you know, what was trending on social media at the end of the day?

00:11:29.560 It was Waffle House. Right.

00:11:31.040 And it was and it was videos from the first time trending for not not because of a fight at a Waffle House.

00:11:36.260 So that is the first time that Waffle House has trended without somebody receiving stitches as a result of all of it.

00:11:42.700 And and the the ladies that baked him his mother's meatloaf recipe and wanted to give it to him and all of those moments that you see.

00:11:51.800 And it's it's it's it's hectic for sure.

00:11:54.600 I've been in the throes of campaign moments like that previously.

00:11:58.420 And it's and it's everything it's supposed to be right.

00:12:01.120 There's pushing, there's shoving. 0.65

00:12:02.360 People are running between cars and restaurants and places just just to get a quick peek at him, you know, just to look through the window at him lining up on the street for hours and hours with homemade placards just so that they can, you know, wave it as the motorcade goes by for 10, 15 seconds.

00:12:19.160 That is the dedication out there.

00:12:20.580 And he gives the dedication back in return.

00:12:23.800 He doesn't have to stop off at Waffle House unscripted, you know, and and and start talking to people and buying them waffles.

00:12:31.660 But he does it because he loves it and he does it because he knows that, you know, there are other candidates out there who don't even necessarily have to name names that can't connect with people at that level.

00:12:41.660 They can't just go hang out with them.

00:12:43.580 And and I think Trump loves to show that he's always been a man of the people and remains to this day, despite everything, a man of the people.

00:12:51.220 Well, that was no, no, I was actually just going to remark on that, that this this transcends politics, because even before his political career, you would see him, whether it be on the street in New York or while walking through one of his hotel lobbies or a casino.

00:13:04.620 You know, Trump Taj Mahal, I even remember, you know, in 1990s in Atlantic City, that he was he was always sort of a fixture who'd be walking around, he'd be shaking hands, hobnobbing with, yes, of course, all of his celebrity friends.

00:13:17.160 But you could just come up to him and he would say hi and slap you on the back.

00:13:20.480 And, you know, the big tipper, I mean, there's always been a sense.

00:13:23.540 And this is what I say.

00:13:24.640 And I respond to people who say, oh, it's a cult.

00:13:26.580 It's called it's I don't think it's a cult.

00:13:28.340 I think it's just the fact that there's a lot of people out there that when you take someone from that level,

00:13:33.620 that they walk right past you as if you don't exist.

00:13:37.120 And yet he will stay stay there, lock eyes with you, shake your hand and show you respect and treat you with a level of dignity that they are not used to.

00:13:47.620 And that's where the connection comes from.

00:13:49.440 And it's not something that you can quantify in politics.

00:13:53.820 Look, it it was a it's a cult in the same way that that, you know, fandom for Elvis Presley was a cult.

00:14:02.380 You could call it a cult if you really wanted to.

00:14:04.820 You can call it a cult if you're being mean and nasty and frankly, jealous, right?

00:14:09.380 Jealous about very jealous.

00:14:11.160 But what you're really talking about here and, you know, I'm writing a big article about that day and my impressions of that day.

00:14:18.360 And National Pulse members will get that article over at the national pulse dot com.

00:14:22.560 I encourage everybody to go and sign up immediately.

00:14:24.740 You won't get this analysis anywhere else.

00:14:26.280 You won't get this kind of insight anywhere else.

00:14:27.920 And I'm not just saying, you know, my insights the best, although it is what I'm saying is every person that goes on that plane from the corporate media is going to just try and belittle and demean.

00:14:37.900 And I'm going to tell you what really goes on there.

00:14:40.060 And one of the things I do in the article, Jack, is I compare him to Elvis Presley, you know, not least because he and I actually connected over Elvis Presley on the plane.

00:14:49.900 But I started to think about it and think about his connection with kind of that America and and and what it looks like today, where America stands today and who is Elvis Presley in modern America.

00:15:01.380 And it is Donald Trump.

00:15:04.120 Not the closest you can come to him.

00:15:05.820 We're coming up on a break.

00:15:06.760 Can you hang for a little bit?

00:15:07.620 You got to bounce.

00:15:08.820 I got to bounce, Jack.

00:15:09.660 I have.

00:15:10.120 Let's let's let's.

00:15:11.420 Many, many other things.

00:15:12.560 But if people want to go to the national.

00:15:13.660 Well, you've got you've got you've got an article to write.

00:15:16.400 You've got analysis to get out.

00:15:17.760 Tell us people where they can find it when they get the chance.

00:15:21.640 Yes, I'm going to be finishing this and then I'm giving a speech to the D.C.

00:15:24.580 Young Republicans this evening.

00:15:25.760 So I've got to figure out what I'm going to say there.

00:15:27.700 The national pulse dot com is where it's all at.

00:15:30.940 And by the way, ladies and gentlemen, make sure reciprocally I got to tell you this.

00:15:33.940 Make sure you're supporting Jack Posobiec and human events also.

00:15:37.540 There you go.

00:15:38.280 Appreciate it, Raheem.

00:15:39.120 Thank you for your work, your travels.

00:15:42.300 You know, spent the weekend outside, spent time with the kids.

00:15:45.500 But you work in all day on a Friday and a Saturday.

00:15:49.780 And I'm back at Bedminster tomorrow.

00:15:51.820 And you'll be back up there tomorrow.

00:15:54.160 That's I've got a little a little something else I have to do.

00:15:57.100 But I will be in communication with you because we need to find out everything that's going on.

00:16:02.220 Look, it's the same thing, folks.

00:16:03.300 He gets indicted in New York.

00:16:04.940 Then he heads down to have a rally at Mar-a-Lago.

00:16:07.740 He gets indicted in Miami.

00:16:09.360 Then he flies back up and he's having another sort of mini rally at Bedminster tomorrow.

00:16:14.920 Remarks will be held.

00:16:16.500 President Trump, stay tuned.

00:16:17.360 Come right back.

00:16:20.420 Donald will throw anyone and everyone under the bus in order to preserve his own freedom,

00:16:26.680 in order to benefit himself.

00:16:28.540 I think the DOJ should be, if they're not already looking at the unholy relationship

00:16:35.560 that exists between Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman and Jared Kushner.

00:16:41.460 I mean, this whole two plus billion dollars to an unqualified hedge funder makes no sense to me.

00:16:48.720 And in light of the information that came out, that there was military information on Iran.

00:16:54.980 And we all know that Saudi Arabia has had, you know, Iranian aggression on their mind for a long time.

00:17:02.200 Who knows what was shown to them?

00:17:04.140 Who knows what was discussed?

00:17:05.880 Who knows what was sold?

00:17:07.660 None of us.

00:17:08.860 And I do believe that our law enforcement, because we have the greatest law enforcement in the world,

00:17:15.260 they can find anything.

00:17:16.520 And I believe that they will find a lot of information that goes outside of Trump,

00:17:22.440 even though I do believe he probably had his hand in it, that he certainly knows about it.

00:17:27.480 And chances are, if he had his hand in it and he knew about it, he profited from it.

00:17:33.440 OK, Trump force one currently headed south across New Jersey, be headed all the way south down to Miami.

00:17:41.800 We know that he's going to be staying, President Trump, staying in Miami tonight,

00:17:46.320 headed over for an arraignment tomorrow afternoon, and then flying back to Bedminster.

00:17:51.580 Raheem Kassam will be there.

00:17:53.540 I've also got some folks that will be there this time around.

00:17:57.500 But we need to break down what Michael Cohen was saying right there.

00:18:00.780 And I want to explain this to everybody.

00:18:03.040 Was president?

00:18:03.880 It's amazing, right?

00:18:04.840 So what they're trying to do is answer this question.

00:18:07.220 So they're answering the question of, because there's a huge gaping hole,

00:18:10.900 and there's a lot of gaping holes in the indictment.

00:18:12.480 One of the biggest gaping holes is, why?

00:18:15.300 Why would, you know, President Trump keep all of this if it wasn't obviously for the National Archives?

00:18:22.180 So there's the obvious reality that presidents keep their records,

00:18:27.420 and then they work with the National Archives,

00:18:29.400 and it eventually goes into the presidential library,

00:18:31.980 which presidential libraries are branches of the National Archives.

00:18:35.000 Okay, fine.

00:18:36.540 But if you're on the Blue Anon media, if you're part of the MSNBC crowd, the Wine Moms,

00:18:44.160 they are asking themselves, what's the story?

00:18:46.900 What's the motive?

00:18:48.080 What's the background?

00:18:48.740 Remember, these are the same people that are addicted to true crime podcasts.

00:18:52.160 They're addicted to Jake Tapper, Joy Reid,

00:18:56.900 all these people that are always constantly figuring out these crazy theories.

00:19:01.800 Remember, they all still believe that the Steele dossier is 100% true.

00:19:06.120 They all believe it.

00:19:07.600 And so you've got to come in and give that extra little twist for it to make sense.

00:19:13.300 Okay, so he's keeping the documents.

00:19:14.760 But why?

00:19:15.400 Why is he keeping the documents?

00:19:16.640 What is it?

00:19:16.980 Oh, you know what it is?

00:19:19.260 He's got information about Iran, right?

00:19:21.660 So he's selling that information.

00:19:23.140 Here we go.

00:19:23.680 He's selling that information to the Saudis.

00:19:26.280 Of course, now that's not actually alleged in any of the indictments.

00:19:31.120 So if that were true, there'd be some, you know, I don't know, evidence of this.

00:19:34.820 But of course there isn't.

00:19:36.620 It's also completely ridiculous on its face because the United States has been a partner

00:19:43.500 with the Gulf Cooperation Council in the Middle East, particularly in the Persian slash Arabian Gulf,

00:19:49.880 whichever long story about, you know, the fight over how to name this.

00:19:53.320 And DOD, you have to say Arabian Gulf, you can't say Persian Gulf.

00:19:56.720 And so the United States has had an intel agreement with Saudi Arabia over stuff like this for a long time. 1.00

00:20:04.760 So you just sound stupid. 1.00

00:20:05.940 You just sound stupid and uninformed if you actually think that that's something that President Trump is doing 1.00

00:20:10.640 and that there's like a payoff and the payoff is all the money. 1.00

00:20:14.440 No, you really think the Saudis need Donald Trump to figure out what's going on in Iran?

00:20:21.180 No, I think they know, actually.

00:20:22.540 I think they know.

00:20:23.020 But plus, here's the other problem is if you actually do read the indictment, I've read every page of it. 0.95

00:20:28.720 It's ridiculous.

00:20:29.860 But it says right on page one that President Trump was talking about, right? 0.81

00:20:35.700 And you have to read between the lines a little bit because it doesn't say the country name.

00:20:39.000 He was talking about Milley pushing him to go to war with Iran and showing him invasion plans

00:20:45.040 and President Trump shut it down.

00:20:47.160 Well, who wants the United States to go to war with Iran?

00:20:50.580 Iran, the Saudis. 0.96

00:20:52.260 At the time, it was the Saudis.

00:20:54.200 And the GCC, Iran was their number one near-peer competitor. 0.61

00:20:57.720 They were their number one competitor in terms of the oil market, their business economic competitor.

00:21:02.060 Now they are, it looks like they're starting to actually kind of normalize relations going along with the rise of BRICS,

00:21:07.760 because you have to fast forward ahead now to where we are, the rise of BRICS, China, Russia, working together with OPEC,

00:21:14.240 that they're all selling money.

00:21:15.740 They're selling oil to China now, selling the petroleum in.

00:21:18.020 And the fact is that President Trump was shutting down World War III.

00:21:26.040 He was saying, no, we're not going to invade.

00:21:29.040 He was doing the opposite of what the Saudis would want. 0.97

00:21:31.080 But to these people, they can't even keep their story straight.

00:21:34.700 Can't keep it straight.

00:21:35.400 And we should even do, I might even have to break down this idea of why, what is the constitutionality of the Presidential Records Act

00:21:44.240 and why is it the Espionage Act is not the controlling law when it comes to the president.

00:21:48.660 It has to do with the Constitution.

00:21:50.440 And a little part of the Constitution that we read when Marjorie Taylor Greene was on here the other day,

00:21:55.320 Article 2, Section 2.

00:21:57.120 So the beginning of Article 2 of the Constitution, the president, the executive power is vested in the presidency.

00:22:06.360 Article 2, Section 2, the president is the commander-in-chief of the army and navy.

00:22:13.260 That is a plenary power.

00:22:14.580 There is no other commander-in-chief.

00:22:17.080 Where does this come from?

00:22:19.320 Remember, the framework, and Alexander Hamilton talks about this in the Federalist Papers,

00:22:23.040 the framework that they were working through was the British monarchy, the crown.

00:22:27.980 And so under the monarch, right, under the British crown, the king had the right to raise the military and conduct war.

00:22:37.080 But what they did in the Federalist Papers, and then later in the Constitution, the Federalist Papers, you know, explain this,

00:22:42.340 they break up the war powers.

00:22:45.260 The president has the power to not declare war or raise an army.

00:22:50.080 That's given to Congress, but the president has the ability to conduct war and conduct national security

00:22:56.720 and deploy troops and institute military operations.

00:23:00.220 I'm not getting into the War Powers Act, but that all comes later.

00:23:03.300 My point here is, is that the power over national security documents comes through this concept

00:23:12.420 that comes to us by the way of monarchy.

00:23:16.360 The president is the supreme commander-in-chief.

00:23:21.320 He has supreme power over national security information.

00:23:26.820 These documents and these laws do not apply to the president or any president or former president

00:23:32.880 the same way they do to any other member of the chain of command or any other civilian

00:23:38.200 because all of this goes and flows through.

00:23:42.700 Remember, the executive power is vested in the presidency, going on Mark Levin on you, right?

00:23:47.000 So if it's vested in the presidency, the question is, does the bureaucracy want that?

00:23:53.360 And that is what they are trying to truly assault, not just for President Trump, but for every future president.

00:24:01.260 They want to steal the power over national security for themselves.

00:24:06.380 They want to be the ones in control, the unelected, administrative, permanent state.

00:24:12.520 That's what's going on here.

00:24:14.600 Robert Jihali from Trafalgar comes up next.

00:24:16.880 All right, we are keeping track of President Trump's plane, Trump Force One, now winging down to Florida.

00:24:27.540 He's passing South Carolina.

00:24:29.300 He's going to pass Savannah, the beautiful city of Savannah.

00:24:32.720 Stop in Savannah any chance you get.

00:24:35.080 If you would happen to be down in Georgia, it is absolutely one of the jewels of the South.

00:24:39.640 I could not specify more.

00:24:42.040 They've got a crime issue.

00:24:43.020 They do have a crime issue that they need to fight with now, but if you look at the history of Savannah, it's also a place where I love to go because every time I'm around and we stop in Savannah, we go and pay our respects to General Pulaski because General Pulaski right there in Savannah, that's where he died, leading a charge just like a Polish hussar would, leading a charge directly into the British. 0.91

00:25:08.560 He was actually killed by a barrage of grape shot while he rode the cavalry in with the Americans, came over from Poland, trained up the United States cavalry, saved the life of George Washington, ends up dying in the Battle of Savannah in the American Revolutionary War.

00:25:23.560 In fact, one of the only people in all of U.S. history to be granted honorary U.S. citizenship by the U.S. Congress.

00:25:32.120 But folks, when we have these issues, when we have these issues that go down, we always have to dig it into how is it playing out in the polls?

00:25:41.700 What's the response of the electorate?

00:25:44.500 Is this something?

00:25:45.660 Would there be potentially an opportunity for the deep state, for the government to be able to come in and say, you know what, these indictments are so bad.

00:25:55.320 You've got, you know, people who are at least, I would say, identify as Republicans, like Bill Barr, coming out and saying, he's toast, he's done, it's over, it's over for Trump.

00:26:08.100 Plus, you've got all these people, these talking heads, the anti-Trumpers out there saying, Trump is done, this indictment, he's finally, he's finito, he's done, it's the end of it.

00:26:17.600 Well, there's a couple of reasons, by the way, that we should be skeptical of those claims.

00:26:22.720 Number one, because we have to ask, what is their true motivation?

00:26:26.060 Number two, we have to ask, is this case even going to go to trial before the election?

00:26:32.440 Because keep in mind that if this case gets pushed out, typically you have an 18-month lag time between indictment and trial.

00:26:40.540 That's just a federal system to begin with, okay?

00:26:42.500 Anyway, keep in mind, the same thing is playing out with January 6th right now, because you have people, it's been, what, two plus, two and a half years since January 6th.

00:26:49.780 There's still people waiting for trial at this moment, two and a half years later, for something that happened two and a half years ago.

00:26:56.500 President Trump, if he went to trial, if he followed that typical, let's just take the average, 18 months, that would be what?

00:27:04.300 That December 2024, a month after the election, he could already be president-elect at that point, which sets up such a constitutional crisis in this country that we've never even seen before.

00:27:18.280 It's completely unprecedented.

00:27:19.100 We're in absolutely untried water here.

00:27:21.240 Plus, this judge, it turns out that the judge has been, and they're going after her like crazy because Trump appointed her.

00:27:28.060 And this is the judge who was, and they're selected at random.

00:27:30.780 They are selected at random at this level.

00:27:32.440 They're trying to get rid of her. 0.99

00:27:33.420 They want her off the case. 0.86

00:27:34.940 But again, then that would have to go up to the district level, to have to go, or excuse me, to the appellate level.

00:27:38.900 And then who oversees the 11th circuit for the Supreme Court?

00:27:45.640 It's Clarence Thomas.

00:27:47.660 I would say at this point, unless she recuses, and there's going to be a drumbeat to recuse.

00:27:52.100 There is, and there already is.

00:27:53.200 It's already out there.

00:27:53.800 They've been doing it all weekend.

00:27:54.940 They want her to recuse from this case. 0.95

00:27:57.300 But unless she stands strong and fights back, the opposite of what Jeff Sessions did, by the way, a lifetime ago, it feels like.

00:28:07.520 Because he recused himself extremely early.

00:28:10.800 Never should have been attorney general if he planned to recuse himself, by the way.

00:28:14.380 I've always said Jeff Sessions would have been fine, DHS secretary, and so many other issues could have been solved.

00:28:20.700 Get a serious Trump AG in there.

00:28:22.880 A serious someone who wanted to focus on the Department of Justice and dealing with the problems that we had would have been great.

00:28:28.160 Yeah, Eileen Cannon, Bruce Angelo, give me a name.

00:28:30.580 Eileen Cannon, that's her name there. 1.00

00:28:32.700 But we also have to say, even if this does go to trial, that district is a district that's been trending for Trump.

00:28:42.140 Miami-Dade, and keep in mind, the district is more than just Miami-Dade, but Miami-Dade went very close to flipping for Trump in 20, did flip for DeSantis in 22.

00:28:51.220 There is almost, I would say, a high-level chance, not 100%, you can never say 100%, but I'd say 80% to 85% chance that you will have a couple of Trump-supporting Miami Cubans, Cubanos, on that trial.

00:29:08.240 And you know what?

00:29:09.300 You know something?

00:29:10.480 They've seen this before.

00:29:12.080 They've seen this movie a million times.

00:29:14.900 The communists, the Bolsheviks get into power, and then they want to lock up their political opponents.

00:29:20.240 And so they're going to go through, and they're going to say, you know what?

00:29:22.460 You know something?

00:29:23.440 I ain't going along with this.

00:29:24.900 And you watch.

00:29:25.860 Because if this does make it to this point, and again, I already walked through how President Trump, if he's, you know, play it out.

00:29:34.200 If he's the president, at that point, if this, let's say they set the trial date for January 21st, 2025, his first act as president, he could pardon himself.

00:29:48.940 Boom, done.

00:29:50.240 No trial.

00:29:51.360 Not going to happen.

00:29:53.020 So that's the issue they have for them when it comes to the Florida case.

00:29:58.100 If they indict, and I suspect they will, for the statistics and accuracy in D.C., the question there becomes, will he be able to hold out?

00:30:08.800 Will they be able to delay this?

00:30:11.080 Because D.C., you're not going to find Trump-supporting judges.

00:30:14.580 You're not going to find Trump-supporting jurors.

00:30:16.100 You're not going to find any of those things.

00:30:17.380 Any of those aspects that we've walked you through, the Southern District of Florida, you will not find those in the D.C. district.

00:30:22.760 That's why Jack Smith has the grand jury open there.

00:30:25.640 That's why they're going to be looking at this seditious conspiracy.

00:30:28.040 They're going to take, as Julie Kelly has outlined, they're going to take those indictments from the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers, et cetera.

00:30:34.700 They're going to swap the names.

00:30:35.760 I ain't going to be Stuart Rhodes.

00:30:37.280 You know it ain't going to be Ray Epps.

00:30:38.500 It's going to be Donald J. Trump, and they're going to put him in as the head of the conspiracy and probably, unfortunately, some members of the president's administration, too.

00:30:48.540 I would not be surprised if they went for this.

00:30:51.660 So, folks, there is a legal minefield that President Trump has to walk through in order to get back to the presidency.

00:31:00.860 They are putting him on this Herculean task, right, the series of tasks that he has to compete.

00:31:07.880 In addition to all of the contenders, the other contenders, the second tier, the bottom tier that we're talking about in terms of the also-ran candidates, he has to face legal fights at the state level, at the federal level, potentially two at the federal level.

00:31:25.200 I think the one in D.C. is going to be a much bigger problem for him.

00:31:28.220 I think they will attempt to push that through prior to the election for just the instances that I lined out because they understand the presidency has the plenary power of pardons, and you can pardon for anything other than an impeachment.

00:31:45.660 So, yes, he can pardon himself.

00:31:47.920 He can run.

00:31:49.700 The Secret Service is still defending him.

00:31:51.760 We are in uncharted waters, folks.

00:31:53.020 But the only reason that we're in uncharted waters, the only reason that they're doing this is because no matter what they do, he keeps going up in the polls.

00:32:03.520 The people are not leaving him.

00:32:05.820 They're not throwing him under the bus, and they can see this insane political indictment persecution for what it is.

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00:33:09.540 We're very excited to bring on our next guest.

00:33:12.760 We have on via phone here, it's Robert Cajali, the chief pollster of the Trafalgar Group.

00:33:18.900 Robert, how are you?

00:33:20.400 Just fine.

00:33:20.940 How about you?

00:33:22.700 I'm doing well.

00:33:23.540 I'm doing very well.

00:33:24.200 Now, I've been looking at these polls that are coming out of CBS, the YouGov, things that are not – I don't think that anybody would accuse CBS and YouGov of being a pro-Trump polling universe.

00:33:39.200 But they're showing us that they've got numbers.

00:33:42.880 And as far as I can tell, they've been in the field the closest to the indictments.

00:33:47.660 They were polling over the weekend.

00:33:49.120 That's exactly right.

00:33:49.380 They've got Trump up 38 points in this national primary.

00:33:56.100 Then Tip came out as well.

00:33:57.940 But they've got similar numbers, but those numbers actually came out – were taken before the indictment.

00:34:03.400 So I wanted to ask you your read on this and then your general read on the shift, if any, that you've seen since this indictment.

00:34:11.100 Well, it's interesting to look at those two particular different ones.

00:34:15.700 The CBS poll had begun in the field before the indictment.

00:34:21.560 And then they adjusted to add the indictment question because they were already in the field.

00:34:25.800 Now, there was a difference, I think, probably when you – if you go back and look at the public opinion, Thursday when the indictments were announced and Friday when the specifics of the indictments were rolled out.

00:34:37.760 But it looks like the CBS poll covered both days.

00:34:41.400 So I think that's useful.

00:34:43.440 And so you're right.

00:34:45.460 And when you look at them as compared to other outlets, I've always thought of the big three, big four, CBS – well, I think five, CBS is the most reliable.

00:34:54.640 And probably the least biased, though.

00:34:56.920 So I think that's – it's a good measuring stick.

00:34:59.740 So, yeah, and that is exactly kind of what we're seeing.

00:35:03.420 I had the opportunity to be in the Medal of the Beast this weekend at the Georgia convention right after all this started.

00:35:12.080 So being able to see the environment with Trump there giving a speech, being able to talk to people who were attending both before and after Trump's speech,

00:35:21.380 you kind of just be able to take kind of a measuring stick of where Trump supporters are, how they moved, and stuff like that.

00:35:27.920 And so I would put a lot of credence into the idea that this has not moved Trump down.

00:35:33.980 If anything, it's moved him up.

00:35:35.700 But what I have found now is kind of Trump supporters who were not faves to break into two categories, the first of which are those who just say that nothing they say is true,

00:35:49.520 in the same way that Biden supporters will never believe he took pride.

00:35:54.060 They'll just say, hey, it's Republican Congress investigating him.

00:35:57.440 It doesn't matter.

00:35:58.860 There are many Trump supporters who say, hey, it's the Biden Justice Department.

00:36:02.040 It's not true.

00:36:03.000 It doesn't matter.

00:36:03.540 They're going to make up anything. 0.97

00:36:05.440 But the second batch of supporters are, this is a silly thing.

00:36:10.540 The president, these are what these Trump supporters say.

00:36:14.220 The president is taking bribes, this president and vice president, and we're talking about documents. 0.85

00:36:21.600 That this is a silly comparison.

00:36:23.580 And these two things don't have no, cannot be bespoken in the same vein, that they don't make any sense.

00:36:33.880 So even if they can see that the idea that he handled the documents sloppy happened and he tried to have it covered up happened, it doesn't matter.

00:36:42.700 It's insignificant.

00:36:43.240 And everyone is dismissive of the idea of, you know, the espionage charge.

00:36:49.040 You know, because it isn't like they have an example of a file that was laying on a table and there just happened to be a Chinese-Russian spy there.

00:36:57.300 But it's kind of like the difference between having a wreck when you're drunk driving and getting arrested for drunk driving where you could have had a wreck.

00:37:05.720 And you don't get charged for killing someone if you were just drunk driving.

00:37:11.260 But the point is, you get charged heavily because you could have done something.

00:37:15.980 And they're treating Trump as if those records were seen by a spy.

00:37:20.780 And they don't think that's.

00:37:24.180 Well, and that's that's exactly, you know, actually, just before you came on, that's precisely what we were discussing, because, you know, there was an idea that if there were any incidents of that, of course, it would be in the indictment.

00:37:35.640 In itself, they would say, you know, and the Saudis came in and the Russians came in and the Chinese came in and he was giving away Ukrainian positions and everything else.

00:37:43.640 And yet there's none of the indictment is completely silent in any of these things.

00:37:47.620 But, Robert, do you have any data?

00:37:49.960 Are you seeing anything in the data or just from what you've you've gleaned from attending the convention that this is really making any difference, at least on the Republican side of the aisle as we're looking at the primary?

00:38:00.060 Yeah, I don't really see.

00:38:01.160 You know, I've seen Trump's perception at some of these events.

00:38:06.720 I did not see a difference.

00:38:07.920 If anything, a little bit more enthusiasm.

00:38:11.440 And I keep hearing this refrain.

00:38:14.560 If he's the only thing standing between them doing this to all of us, you know, it's not just that they've gone after Trump.

00:38:22.840 We've seen the federal law enforcement used to, you know, lock up pro, I mean, to intimidate, lock up pro-life leaders and school board parents.

00:38:34.040 So there's not this, oh, that's hypothetical.

00:38:36.620 That can't happen.

00:38:38.200 That's happening.

00:38:39.040 And so this argument Trump makes, if we don't stop them with me, they'll run roughshod over you, really hits willing ears.

00:38:49.860 And so I don't see a drop off right now.

00:38:52.160 But I will say the best way to judge this will be two or three weeks out when more details are coming out, when the hearing is over and we get a real sense of where it's going.

00:39:02.600 And it's seen in its full perspective.

00:39:05.900 But the other thing, and this is what I've been saying for months, is as we kind of track Trump, we notice that when everything is silent, Trump is not in the headlines.

00:39:17.060 And he's not just, you know, he's being talked about a little bit on mainstream media and talked about a little bit on conservative media.

00:39:25.200 But you're not seeing pictures and video and he starts to sink.

00:39:29.320 And as soon as all of a sudden he's on the screens, you know, whether it's going to the hearing, the day before.

00:39:37.800 We're about to come up on a break and apologize, but this is fascinating.

00:39:41.060 I want to, if you can hold on, I'd love to tease that out a little bit more and break it down for the audience.

00:39:45.680 Because I think I've, I understand exactly what you're saying, that there's this phenomenon that when they report on him more, when he's driving the news cycle more, people actually gravitate towards him the more they see of him.

00:40:01.100 That's fascinating.

00:40:02.120 And it was almost seems counterintuitive.

00:40:03.740 Stay tuned.

00:40:04.040 We'll be right back.

00:40:04.540 Robert Cahali, Trafalgar Group.

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00:41:50.200 Robert Cajale, we were going through with you before the break this phenomenon that you've seen of Trump slipping in the polls, not because of indictments, not because of these recent allegations against him.

00:42:05.480 But you're actually seeing in the data that the only time that Trump slips in the polls is when he's out of the news cycle.

00:42:13.160 That seems almost counterintuitive to everything the mainstream media is saying.

00:42:16.980 Well, and that's what's interesting about it.

00:42:19.340 And I wouldn't even say slip.

00:42:20.380 I would say dip.

00:42:21.080 I mean, like, you know, if you're tracking, you know, one night he'll be at 50 and then it could drop down to like 47 and not much.

00:42:31.560 But what I kind of liken it to Trump, I mean, publicity to Trump is like oxygen to a fire.

00:42:40.400 It can't exist without it.

00:42:43.300 And so whenever, I mean, think about this.

00:42:45.720 When Trump is on the way to New York and we're seeing scenes that are reminiscent of the OJJ, that is not making people talk less about Trump.

00:42:57.440 It's just not.

00:42:58.420 I mean, you know, when they're snapping pictures of him trying to get in to a courtroom or anything like, you know, like he is a member of the royal family.

00:43:07.160 I mean, that's it's almost like, of course, that works.

00:43:11.300 I mean, all this publicity.

00:43:13.280 I mean, you got to imagine that Peyton Herrier just losing their minds like, well, maybe we should get indicted. 0.99

00:43:17.820 This is awesome because the publicity is tremendous.

00:43:20.800 And so I do see him is that whenever you turn on your TV and again, I'm talking about regular people who aren't like us, who are not conservative media consumers.

00:43:34.200 I'm just talking about average shows who pick up a little bit here, a little bit there.

00:43:38.360 When when their mainstream TV is full of images of Trump, which then filters down to their social media and it's just Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.

00:43:45.780 And they're going against him, then there starts to be this, huh, huh.

00:43:52.820 People start thinking and maybe they've forgotten about it because he hadn't been on Twitter and stuff.

00:43:57.700 And they start thinking about what they used to be like and what they're like now.

00:44:02.160 And also the mean treats don't see so bad.

00:44:05.080 All of a sudden, some of the things that any things don't seem so significant because they remember what their life is like.

00:44:10.740 But that's absolutely fantastic to me now, Robert, when let's talk general election, let's talk a little bit.

00:44:20.600 Can you put a level if you were to take a look at the electorate right now, are we talking twenty five percent, thirty three percent, forty percent?

00:44:29.820 How high would you actually put that number of MAGA support?

00:44:32.880 Well, let's start by understanding.

00:44:37.860 And one of the things that most people are not conveying properly is when we start talking about percentage of Republicans supporting Trump and MAGA support among Republican primary voters.

00:44:47.840 Republican primary voters are not a subset of take all the people in America, Republicans, Democrats, independents, put them in their pots.

00:44:56.780 And and Republicans are the primary.

00:44:58.840 No. No. The kind there are generally about a third to a fourth of people who will vote Republican in general election will actually bring themselves out to a presidential primary.

00:45:11.520 So this is a much smaller subset.

00:45:13.360 So what I would say is probably in the general election, that number is and when you say when I say MAGA, I mean, like, love Trump, do whatever the, you know, the people that, you know, when he talks about shootings about Fifth Avenue, just supporting that that crowd.

00:45:29.700 Now, I would say I would probably estimate that lower than most people, but I think that's not really his base in a general election.

00:45:39.000 I'd say that number is under twenty percent in a general election, again, because primary voters are a subset of those who vote Republican.

00:45:47.040 But what I would but what I would also add to you may add to it is there is there are MAGA supporters and then there are just Republicans who like who like his message and like their life better when he was president.

00:46:02.260 Then I would say there are reluctant Trump Republicans who probably wouldn't pick him, but will absolutely vote for him in the general election.

00:46:12.100 But what's more important is in the general election.

00:46:15.160 There are people who are defined as Democrats, and I don't mean self-identification, which is the way a lot of polling companies do it.

00:46:24.040 I mean, identified as Democrats because they vote Democrat primary.

00:46:28.720 Are registered Democrats.

00:46:29.860 There are a lot more of them who who really don't buy into any of the less and and they're being distanced from the Democrat Party who didn't sign.

00:46:42.160 I mean, they signed up for the Bill Clinton Democrat Party.

00:46:44.420 They didn't signed up, you know, for the transgender BLM.

00:46:49.760 Yeah, the diversity Olympics.

00:46:51.800 Robert, I think we're going to have to leave it there because we're out of time for the show.

00:46:55.700 Folks, go follow Robert Cahali over at the Trafalgar Group.

00:47:00.240 They're digging through the data every single moment on this.

00:47:03.720 Thank you, Robert, so much for joining us here on Human Events.

00:47:07.480 Folks, once you go and get your tickets for ACT-CON next month, Scott Pressler will be.

00:47:13.400 Did I say that?

00:47:13.880 Scott Pressler, of course, is going to be there.

00:47:16.920 This is an action convention.

00:47:18.760 This is not, you know, your grandpappy's conservative conference.

00:47:22.680 We are coming in and we are coming hard because it's time.

00:47:26.000 They want to take your country away.

00:47:28.500 Are you going to let them take it?

00:47:29.580 Are you just going to let them do this or are you going to stand up and actually fight?

00:47:33.860 Catch me, by the way.

00:47:35.220 I haven't even put this on Twitter yet, but I will be on TimCast.

00:47:38.500 I'll be returning to TimCast tonight.

00:47:39.760 So go check that out, 8 p.m.

00:47:43.140 Also, later in the week, stay tuned.

00:47:46.000 We have a little something with Charlie Kirk coming up on Thursday.

00:47:50.520 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - June 12, 2023

EPISODE 493： TRUMP SEES POLLS SURGE IN WAKE OF INDICTMENTS

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