Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 497： TRUMP SOARS AFTER DOJ INDICTMENT, BALLOT OPERATIONS UPDATE

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00:00:51.480 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events with Jack Poso.

00:00:55.340 Today is June 16th, 2023.

00:00:58.280 Anno Domini.

00:00:59.280 Folks, we are looking at this campaign.

00:01:03.140 We're in the midst of this primary season.

00:01:05.380 And earlier this week when President Trump was arraigned, we had on as a live guest the

00:01:09.620 People's Pundit, Richard Barris.

00:01:12.100 And I said, I promised him that I'd bring him back on later in the week to crunch some

00:01:16.860 of these numbers.

00:01:17.980 And so I wanted to bring him back on today to tell us what is the state of the horse race

00:01:22.660 following this heinous indictment, unprecedented indictment of President Trump.

00:01:27.800 Rich, the question here is, you've been reporting this, I've been getting it from other reports,

00:01:33.300 that these consultants, Republican strategists, are telling donors or were telling donors that

00:01:38.960 when Trump is indicted, his polls will go down, they'll shoot down, they'll race to the bottom,

00:01:44.680 and it'll knock him out of the race.

00:01:46.980 Aren't we seeing the exact opposite now?

00:01:50.180 Jack, and as always, thanks for having me on.

00:01:53.100 I'm glad we had a couple of days now for me to really see how the numbers are moving and

00:01:58.140 changing at all.

00:01:59.020 And what we see is a slight bump out of the margin for Trump in most of these states and

00:02:04.640 in nationally, and a decline for other candidates.

00:02:07.440 I said this when we talked the other day, that every single day, take a candidate like

00:02:11.900 Ron DeSantis, every single day these consultants feed this advice to him and to others, and every

00:02:20.040 single day his unfavorables rise even further, even further, even more.

00:02:24.120 Soon he's going to end up in Mike Pence territory.

00:02:26.160 This is, consultants don't live with voters.

00:02:29.740 They don't even do particularly good polling.

00:02:32.820 I mean, this is the tragedy of it all.

00:02:34.880 And a lot of these guys jumped into this race thinking that I'm going to run for a cabinet

00:02:40.560 position or I'm going to run to be the replacement candidate when Lawfare takes out Donald Trump.

00:02:47.300 And what we have seen is a circling of the wagons by Republican voters around the former

00:02:51.840 president and a decline for the other candidates.

00:02:54.860 There's only good news for one other non-Trump candidate in this race, and that is Chris Christie

00:03:00.100 increasing a little bit in New Hampshire.

00:03:02.560 But he just came back from a trip there.

00:03:05.060 He's got a lot of Chris Sununu's connections.

00:03:07.360 He got favorable coverage.

00:03:09.080 And he's almost, he's about to overtake DeSantis for second place.

00:03:12.580 So there are a number of polls showing that now, but that won't last forever.

00:03:17.460 But Rich, this is the thing too, because, you know, and, and, and look, Trump has been

00:03:22.800 impeached twice.

00:03:24.200 He's been indicted once already in New York.

00:03:26.460 They've been going after him for years.

00:03:28.020 They went after Mueller, et cetera.

00:03:29.900 I have the sense that the way of thinking that, okay, if he's indicted once and had none

00:03:35.020 of that backstory or context that ever existed, then okay, maybe, right?

00:03:39.000 That may have had a difference.

00:03:39.960 But I feel like this is all priced in now.

00:03:42.600 And when you're looking at this, by the way, when you're assuming that lawfare or some force

00:03:48.540 majeure is going to take away your opponent, isn't that banking on a losing strategy?

00:03:53.920 Yeah, you know, it's, it is because there's nothing worse that you can do to yourself than

00:03:59.760 confirm or affirm something, a suspicion that voters have of you.

00:04:04.120 And when you take the top couple of candidates behind Trump, anyone else other than I'd say

00:04:09.820 Nikki Haley, because like her lover, at least she's been consistent, right?

00:04:13.800 Take Mike Pence, take Ron DeSantis.

00:04:16.100 The voters have basically suspected or believed that these two men were simply just trying

00:04:22.000 to ride off of Donald Trump's personal destruction.

00:04:24.660 And you have to remember, this is a former president who more than 80% of the party still

00:04:29.700 beloveds, Jack.

00:04:31.540 So this isn't a hated former president among his party.

00:04:34.780 So it was just, it was a stupid strategy.

00:04:37.420 There's no other way to put it.

00:04:38.920 And then they were banking on fear.

00:04:41.040 And I really think the more I talk to some of these people, I think they projected themselves

00:04:46.280 and how they feel onto the American voter.

00:04:48.940 And they really don't understand them.

00:04:51.340 And they're very different from them.

00:04:53.380 So what do I mean by that?

00:04:54.440 I mean, they're afraid, Jack.

00:04:56.560 They're afraid of the indictments, the lawfare.

00:04:59.800 They're afraid of, there's always been this, and you know, you've heard this, whether you're

00:05:03.540 online or you're talking to some of these people, you know, off camera, behind the scenes.

00:05:08.320 There's always been this feeling that if we just go with somebody else, Democrats are

00:05:12.980 going to go easy on us.

00:05:14.340 There'll be less drama.

00:05:16.020 I mean, to you and I, that's a delusion, but it's very real to them.

00:05:19.940 And I think they thought voters would believe that and then put that above their defense of

00:05:24.980 this president.

00:05:25.680 And that was a catastrophic mistake for the future of these candidates.

00:05:30.760 I think it was a losing strategy.

00:05:31.860 And I think honestly, that if you are sitting out there as a Republican and you're interested

00:05:36.200 in higher office, potentially national office, the highest office in our land, you must be

00:05:41.280 prepared to go through the pain box.

00:05:45.260 You must be prepared to go through what they will put you through.

00:05:49.480 And they would do it to any candidate or any person that actually stood up against the

00:05:55.420 agenda.

00:05:55.820 I think Tucker hit the nail on the head the other day when he talked about this.

00:05:58.860 He said, Donald Trump is the one man that actually represents someone who could become

00:06:04.120 president that is not in line with their preset agenda on any number, not just war, but any

00:06:09.980 number of issues.

00:06:10.980 So many issues.

00:06:11.920 We're coming back.

00:06:12.580 We got 10 seconds here.

00:06:13.900 We are going to go.

00:06:15.080 Richard Barris, the People's Pundit.

00:06:16.560 I want to dive deeper and deeper into these numbers.

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00:07:35.740 Now, Rich, when we're digging into this, these, these bumps, these surges, when you really

00:07:41.620 look at the situation on the ground for these guys, the question then becomes, and I keep

00:07:47.780 hearing this from the DeSantis team and from others out there, they say, well, it's, you

00:07:51.240 know, how, here's how we're going to beat Trump.

00:07:52.840 Don't worry about these polls because we're going to win more delegates.

00:07:55.940 Is there, and I remember, I'm thinking in the back of my head, this is what the Ted Cruz

00:08:00.340 guys used to say.

00:08:01.360 And honestly, a lot of, a lot of the case, there's a lot of the same consultants, the

00:08:05.640 exact same consultants walking around.

00:08:07.400 I heard this strategy in 2016 and it was a complete failure.

00:08:12.980 It was this idea that they would be able to march through the states and go to New Hampshire

00:08:17.020 and pick up a little bit, then go to a few other states and pick up a little bit and

00:08:20.780 then get Florida.

00:08:22.040 Now, I would, I would say, obviously, Florida should be the most competitive state for Governor

00:08:25.440 DeSantis, but do you really see something like that panning out?

00:08:29.720 They need to change a lot of the rules that are on the books right now.

00:08:33.520 And in truth, there are a lot of states that are still hatching out how they're going to

00:08:37.400 hold their contests and what they're going to do.

00:08:40.020 Nevada, for instance, is in the middle of a lawsuit.

00:08:42.600 The state moved from a caucus, which they had had for a long time, to a primary.

00:08:47.640 Here's the thing, Jack.

00:08:48.580 Um, yeah, they tried this in Nevada because it was a caucus system last time and they thought

00:08:54.020 that they could get a lot of paid activists to be able to, you know, service infrastructure

00:08:58.200 and Trump beat them in the caucus anyway in Nevada.

00:09:01.060 If you remember, it was one of his more dominant performances.

00:09:03.780 So, again, they're, it's not as, without significant changes now, they're going to run into issues.

00:09:11.700 One we know of is the California plan where McCarthy acolytes his, his number two, uh, that

00:09:17.540 he's grooming to come up.

00:09:19.060 Jessica Patterson and others very much aligned with the DeSantis campaign.

00:09:22.380 Their idea was to get all of these elected congressmen behind DeSantis in California and

00:09:27.460 that because of the way they allocate, uh, delegates by congressional district, they could

00:09:31.940 actually be, uh, they can actually close that delegate gap because, uh, Trump will have more,

00:09:37.300 uh, success in some of those counts.

00:09:39.360 Here's what, here's the problem with that, Jack.

00:09:41.500 Polls just came out.

00:09:42.900 We did California a couple of weeks ago.

00:09:44.860 Trump is at or above in these polls, 50%.

00:09:47.580 It's a winner take most state.

00:09:49.360 If you cross the 50% threshold, you don't get any delegates and you lose.

00:09:54.660 Well, no, if you cross it, you take them all. 0.88

00:09:56.420 And the people, uh, you know, that are in second, third, fourth, they get nothing.

00:10:00.540 All right.

00:10:01.100 In some of these States like New Hampshire, with the polling that we are seeing now,

00:10:05.600 the other candidates are struggling.

00:10:07.140 Even if Trump didn't get to 50, the other candidates are even struggling to hit the

00:10:11.660 threshold to get delegates.

00:10:13.380 So at the end of the day, you need voters and there will be a ton of these candidates that

00:10:18.660 are on the ballot that will not even qualify in proportional States for delegates, South

00:10:23.980 Carolina.

00:10:24.460 We saw this in 2016.

00:10:26.280 Uh, the president made history when he took every single congressional district.

00:10:30.000 So he made South Carolina a winner take all state.

00:10:33.180 This is what we, uh, we, what would happen now if the races were held today without some

00:10:39.180 significant change in the rules, they really, it's, it's not feasible.

00:10:45.080 And there would be an uproar of epic proportions, Jack.

00:10:48.880 I mean, because right now let's face it, it's not really competitive.

00:10:52.360 So if they played these games and the, the people you were just referencing, they're the

00:10:56.540 same people who are on a team to Santa's that were on team Cruz, same people.

00:11:01.100 What about super delegates?

00:11:03.520 Okay.

00:11:03.720 So then here's, here's me playing, you know, sort of devil's advocate.

00:11:06.640 Now in, in other years in 2012, 2016, we hit, we saw fluctuations in the race where, you

00:11:12.380 know, somebody would get into the race and then suddenly they'd have a boost or they'd

00:11:15.940 have a moment at a debate or something like that.

00:11:18.440 And they would suddenly become the front runner.

00:11:20.300 They'd be the front runner for maybe a week, week or two until the new cycle died down.

00:11:24.700 And then they'd go down.

00:11:25.680 And next, I saw this with Herman Cain.

00:11:27.000 You saw this with Michelle Bachman, uh, in 2012, but, and then eventually it settled down

00:11:31.320 onto Romney.

00:11:32.060 But is that really the same dynamic that we're seeing here in this race?

00:11:37.380 Because I hear people say, oh, well, he's just going to break out.

00:11:40.500 He's going to break out or, you know, whichever candidate is going to break out.

00:11:43.860 I don't, do they have any room to break out or are we in a situation where there are ceilings

00:11:50.500 that are now imposed in these numbers?

00:11:53.020 There are ceilings.

00:11:54.760 And by the way, I would say that the dynamics of a primary, it's just not the way it used

00:11:59.640 to be, you know, in 2012.

00:12:01.440 And I would even argue, uh, in 2015 and 2016, you know, Donald Trump, uh, changed a lot and

00:12:08.160 it will be permanently changed, uh, or at least it will be changed until he's no longer a factor

00:12:13.500 in Republican politics.

00:12:15.120 But even the Democrats, they did not have that kind of gyrating back and forth.

00:12:19.100 The world is different now, Jack.

00:12:20.940 And, uh, you know, this idea that somebody could be a governor of Florida and have all

00:12:25.040 this room to grow still, uh, you know, because of name ID and wait until he launches, wait

00:12:30.340 until he goes to Iowa, wait until he goes to New Hampshire.

00:12:32.880 I mean, how many of these promises have we lived past now?

00:12:35.520 And the former president just keeps going up and up.

00:12:37.900 Here's the cold, hard truth.

00:12:39.840 No candidate, not an incumbent, an incumbent, no candidate has had a dominant polling lead like

00:12:47.180 Donald Trump has well above 50%, even this early.

00:12:51.340 Cause I keep hearing that too.

00:12:52.420 Oh, it's so early.

00:12:53.760 No candidate has ever been at the support he is at now and went on to lose.

00:12:58.200 And by the way, I mean, there's a, an old book when I was coming up, people used to love

00:13:02.160 the party, the party wins.

00:13:03.940 And it was about endorsements and the impact of endorsements in primaries.

00:13:08.420 Donald Trump crossed the threshold for historical nomination, needing to get, uh, this many

00:13:14.100 endorsements for the, for the nomination, he crossed it like a month and a half ago, two

00:13:18.200 months ago.

00:13:18.640 And that's number 60 federal and, and, uh, gubernatorial endorsements.

00:13:22.920 So the, the, the order is so tall, Jack, historically speaking, the lane is so small because he's closed

00:13:30.520 it with non-college.

00:13:32.400 He's closed it even now.

00:13:33.800 He's starting to with even college voters.

00:13:35.960 So they need, they're not going to rest back those working class, uh, voters. 0.99

00:13:41.120 And by the way, he dominates with non-white voters.

00:13:44.160 So the, the Republican primary is going to be more non-white than ever before. 0.99

00:13:47.940 And he dominates.

00:13:48.920 They never gave a look to the other candidates.

00:13:51.140 Where does that leave them?

00:13:53.520 Do you know, uh, with the, with the voters to make a lane large enough to cross, uh, 50%,

00:13:58.280 even if they got them one-on-one.

00:14:00.040 The truth is it's not there, Jack.

00:14:02.060 Can I just say what everybody knows?

00:14:04.120 This is becoming a half a billion dollar grift.

00:14:06.440 So the donors can get, uh, so the donors can make the consulting class 30 to $40 million

00:14:11.900 richer.

00:14:13.220 This is, if this was 2012, if this was 2016, and we were talking about Mitt Romney or Jeb

00:14:19.180 Bush, everybody in the media would be saying, wrap this up.

00:14:22.540 It's impossible.

00:14:23.800 This is a grift.

00:14:24.920 The conservative insurgency is just trying to grift their voters.

00:14:28.240 That's what, that would be the narrative right now.

00:14:30.800 Yes.

00:14:30.920 Rick Santorum won Iowa, Newt Gingrich won South Carolina, and Fox News and CNN were still

00:14:37.620 telling voters it's over.

00:14:38.860 Mitt Romney's the nominee.

00:14:39.900 Wrap it up.

00:14:40.820 I mean, think about that for a second.

00:14:42.240 Marinate on that.

00:14:43.200 This is way different, Jack.

00:14:45.640 He is way more dominant than not only them, but he himself ever was in 15 or 16.

00:14:52.120 This is a ridiculous task.

00:14:54.800 And I don't know how you can go with a straight face and ask people to give you money unless

00:15:00.780 you're just trying to stick it in your pocket.

00:15:02.640 That's the honest truth.

00:15:03.540 And the sad thing, and I know Charlie has talked about this, is that that's all money that could

00:15:07.660 be going into micro-targeting operations.

00:15:09.920 It could be going into early votes.

00:15:11.760 It could be going into ballot chase, ballot harvesting.

00:15:14.200 And we could do that.

00:15:15.700 We could be spending all that money on actually winning, putting points on the board, putting

00:15:20.460 it into these operations like Scott Pressler, which by the way, Turning Point is putting

00:15:24.760 at least $5 million, String Point Action, $5 million into just in the state of Wisconsin.

00:15:31.140 Rich, let me ask you this.

00:15:31.820 We've got about two minutes left.

00:15:34.040 Would there be, devil's advocate, would there be potentially a way, and any way you've seen

00:15:40.820 in talking to these voters, for one of them to maybe change tactics and actually do something

00:15:46.380 that would be effective into running against President Trump?

00:15:50.260 Two months ago, there was an opening.

00:15:52.980 There really was.

00:15:53.860 And I wouldn't even say going back to November, going back to December and January, there was

00:15:58.960 an opening and I saw it clear as day.

00:16:00.980 And then they did what every other politician does and listened to every other consultant

00:16:06.280 that every other failed politician has listened to.

00:16:08.880 And unfortunately for them, they've, again, really affirmed to the voter what they were

00:16:15.100 suspecting about them.

00:16:17.700 And there were, you know, I don't mean to beat on him, but he is the second closest of

00:16:22.640 the low tier candidates.

00:16:23.800 He's the higher polling candidate.

00:16:25.920 But Ron DeSantis, his negatives are starting to shoot up like crazy now, Jack.

00:16:30.280 That's because two months ago when people started having questions about him on Ukraine, who fundraisers,

00:16:36.220 who bankrolls this guy?

00:16:38.200 Right?

00:16:38.420 All of these questions, every move he made, all he was the wrong move.

00:16:43.520 And it was the move that the voters who already had their eyebrow raised looking at him a little

00:16:47.760 crooked said, aha, I knew I knew you're that guy.

00:16:51.920 You're that guy.

00:16:52.580 And it's hard to change the image of someone who is establishment or, you know, I don't

00:17:00.700 want to use some of these more brash words, but the fact is, if they think that you are

00:17:05.120 the candidate the establishment has waiting in the wings for when they take out their beloved

00:17:10.100 president, you're going to have a stamp on you that the voters are going to see from a

00:17:15.060 mile away, Jack.

00:17:16.220 And he's not particularly, you know, Chris Christie's a better retail guy, but he's just open about

00:17:21.540 his disdain for the president.

00:17:22.880 So that's not going to work.

00:17:24.180 So as I look around this field, I struggle to see how they're going to break that connection.

00:17:29.220 Strong words from the People's Pundit.

00:17:31.680 Rich, where can people go to follow you, to get all of your analysis and to join your

00:17:36.140 community?

00:17:37.920 peoplespundit.locals.com.

00:17:39.800 That's the central hub.

00:17:40.800 We're everywhere.

00:17:41.320 We're on social media, but that's the place to go, Jack.

00:17:44.000 peoplespundit.locals.com.

00:17:45.500 I got to be careful with that locals, man.

00:17:47.320 I go in there and I'm like, I get sucked in because there's discussion.

00:17:51.540 There's boards, there's people going back and forth.

00:17:53.900 It's a whole little, little universe.

00:17:55.700 And then I turn around and I'm like, I got to go.

00:17:57.800 I got to get the kids.

00:17:58.860 We got to go take care of something.

00:18:00.460 Rich, God bless you.

00:18:01.860 Thank you so much for your work.

00:18:03.000 We're going to have to have you back on more and more as this primary continues, actually

00:18:07.900 explaining what's going on.

00:18:09.440 The number stay tuned.

00:18:10.200 We've got Tyler Boyer coming up next.

00:18:14.120 All right.

00:18:14.580 We are back.

00:18:15.280 Human events.

00:18:16.240 Very excited to have on again, my friend.

00:18:19.260 Also, the COO of Turning Point Action.

00:18:23.160 Turning Point Action is holding an incredible event, West Palm Beach, 15-16 July.

00:18:28.880 Tyler, who's going to be there?

00:18:30.400 Just hit me with the list.

00:18:31.940 Oh, we just announced today Megan Kelly.

00:18:34.080 Very cool.

00:18:34.580 So we have the great Tucker, Tucker Carlson.

00:18:37.640 First, first event since.

00:18:39.580 Is that right?

00:18:40.100 First big event.

00:18:41.120 Yeah.

00:18:41.500 I think the first big event that he's going to be speaking at.

00:18:44.100 I can't think of anything else he's...

00:18:45.620 Well, other than Twitter.

00:18:46.740 The energy will be huge.

00:18:47.920 Yeah.

00:18:48.120 So Tucker Carlson.

00:18:49.340 We've got Megan Kelly.

00:18:50.240 President Trump.

00:18:51.000 President Trump.

00:18:51.780 Senator J.D. Vance.

00:18:52.980 There you go.

00:18:53.720 So, and we have a myriad of other people.

00:18:56.560 You, yourself.

00:18:57.320 Steve Bannon, myself, Charlie.

00:18:59.140 Charlie, everyone.

00:18:59.640 Benny Johnson.

00:19:00.580 Josh Hawley, right?

00:19:01.560 Josh Hawley is going to be speaking.

00:19:04.100 A number of congressmen, including Congresswoman Walker.

00:19:07.540 What's the difference between this convention, this conference, and a typical Turning Point event?

00:19:12.740 So this is going to be so much more focused on action.

00:19:15.520 So we're calling it ACCON.

00:19:17.200 So Action Conference, the Turning Point Action Conference.

00:19:20.280 We will be doing breakouts that are going to be giving our activists the tools that they need to be successful.

00:19:25.800 Oh, and obviously, we say it all the time, but I forgot to say that, obviously, the centerpiece of all of this is Scott Pressler.

00:19:32.700 Scott Pressler will be there.

00:19:34.000 He'll be speaking.

00:19:34.560 So we'll have Scott Pressler, Harmeet Dillon, Mike Lindell.

00:19:37.620 Yes, yes, from Coposo.

00:19:39.440 So we're going to be talking about everything from how we can fight for election integrity and applauding those that are doing the right thing in all the different counties, including getting rid of unnecessary machines, all the way down to Scott, who's helping and working with us.

00:19:56.420 Well, the way I view it is two-pronged, right?

00:19:59.180 The way I view it is two-pronged, because if you're in a state or a county or some area where you have control over the levers of power, then, right, we should be fighting for election integrity every step of the way.

00:20:10.180 I want it to be one man, one vote, one day, IDs, the whole nine yards. 0.55

00:20:15.560 Mail-in ballots should be, I mean, if you're like an invalid or an actual shut-in, that kind of thing, that's it.

00:20:23.340 Or military, obviously, which I have to say.

00:20:26.140 I mean, I voted when I was deployed.

00:20:27.960 I voted by military absentee a number of times.

00:20:30.480 You have to.

00:20:31.700 And the idea that, however, you have to do that in conjunction with the Scott Pressler operation in areas that we don't yet control.

00:20:42.340 And those are essentially the swing states.

00:20:44.040 Yeah, and this is the thing that we keep repeating to everyone, is that you need a great defense, which is election integrity.

00:20:50.260 Yes.

00:20:51.080 Defenses win championships.

00:20:52.980 Championships.

00:20:53.260 So you have to have a great defense, but sometimes you just aren't given a great defense.

00:20:58.160 Sometimes you don't have a great defense, in which case you still have to put points on the board.

00:21:02.220 And in the case, in those states where we don't have a great defense, which are many blue states or blue-controlled counties, you've got to have an even better offense, that means.

00:21:11.060 Walk us through what are your target states.

00:21:12.900 Yeah, I mean, so the key target states, and we know, we've broken down the map many times, but for those, just as a refresher, you have basically four or five states that can determine the election at this point.

00:21:25.640 You have deep red states, you have deep blue states, and then you have what they call purple states or swing states that right now are up in the air by polling and from what we've seen in the last few elections.

00:21:35.060 Those states are Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and then hanging out there are Nevada and Michigan.

00:21:43.300 Those are six states in total.

00:21:45.540 I would argue that Nevada is probably a little bit far-fetched for us for a number of different reasons.

00:21:50.960 Michigan is really tough because of election integrity laws.

00:21:54.080 Pennsylvania, we just saw what happened with John Fetterman.

00:21:56.180 So, I mean, you're looking at this down the barrel of—

00:21:59.820 My senator, John Fetterman.

00:22:00.780 Yeah, it's awful.

00:22:02.420 I mean, we don't have much better here in Arizona, but you have—

00:22:06.180 Real quick, though, what's the Nevada?

00:22:08.620 I mean, look, Nevada is a tough state for a number of different reasons.

00:22:12.840 You have massive union power in Nevada.

00:22:16.380 So part of the reason—I think Nevada would be an easily won red state if it wasn't for the unions that are there. 0.57

00:22:22.820 And remember, there's—

00:22:23.680 And they're operating out of Carson and Vegas.

00:22:26.060 You have massive unions because of the casinos.

00:22:28.500 Right.

00:22:28.760 You have massive unions because of the restaurant industry that's there.

00:22:31.360 Godfather, too.

00:22:32.020 For the resorts.

00:22:33.800 This is—so, unfortunately, your union folks, they typically are voting left.

00:22:38.780 They vote Democrat.

00:22:39.680 They're told to vote Democrat.

00:22:40.860 They're giving time off, and then they're actually compensated extra money to go out and help Democrats get elected.

00:22:44.580 We have the same issue in Pennsylvania.

00:22:45.840 It's the same issue in Pennsylvania, the same issue in a lot of East Coast states on the coast.

00:22:50.180 And so this is what's bled over in Nevada, which has made it so tough.

00:22:53.460 So even when you're in a situation where—

00:22:55.120 It's actually interesting that with the exception of Georgia and Arizona, every other state you mentioned is a union state.

00:23:01.560 Yeah.

00:23:01.960 Yeah.

00:23:02.520 Yeah, exactly.

00:23:03.560 And Georgia and Arizona are just unique because in Wisconsin, to a certain extent for a lot of different reasons, they just don't have a lot of defense, right?

00:23:11.680 We don't have a lot of institutionalized Republican groups and conservative groups that are there.

00:23:16.340 They're able to defend election integrity, for example.

00:23:19.860 Right.

00:23:20.160 You know, the Democrats were able to come in very quickly, and they were able to dominate these counties, which is part of the reason why they selected Arizona and Georgia, I think, and a lot of different reasons.

00:23:30.640 They tried to take advantage of the 270 electoral votes that they need to win.

00:23:35.140 So this is when you break it down.

00:23:37.280 You know, your three best defense options in order to win the presidency are Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia.

00:23:42.880 That's where we put our heavy emphasis and focus.

00:23:45.240 That's where we've worked together with close partners like Scott Pressler, who—our announcement came out this last few weeks where we are investing into the operation there in Wisconsin.

00:23:56.000 You know, we're here in Arizona.

00:23:58.060 We're based out of Arizona.

00:23:59.160 We know Arizona well.

00:24:00.460 And then other partners and friends like the Tea Party Patriots, who have a huge, significant lift in Georgia, a lot of institutional knowledge there, where it's like, well, this is—now what we've got to do is we've got to go in and fund and get the resources necessary in order to put the bodies on the ground to execute on the offense that we need in order to win.

00:24:22.120 Now, we—so we had Scott Pressler on yesterday.

00:24:24.060 He walked us through how sort of the meta process works, the overall process of you target someone, you use this year—and he was in Louisiana, so they do have an off-year gubernatorial election that you can use that as a test bed for 24, which is great.

00:24:39.760 But then even in other cases where you don't have an election, you still have the ability to begin micro-targeting voters.

00:24:45.920 He was urging people to call in, work with registration, et cetera, et cetera.

00:24:49.460 But walk us through what is the left doing?

00:24:52.460 Because really, in many cases, we're just recreating what they've already done on this.

00:24:56.420 Yeah, I mean, look, and I think we can do a lot better.

00:24:59.460 I mean, the exciting part about where we're at as a movement, even though we're losing—and we have lost—excuse me.

00:25:06.520 You're fine.

00:25:06.760 Even though we've lost the last few election cycles and places that we legitimately should have won, we're not losing by much.

00:25:14.860 And the good news, even though it's not good news that this hasn't happened—

00:25:18.320 I feel like people overlook that, by the way, a lot, that these are like nail-biter, squeaker, you know, over-the-line by inches.

00:25:25.040 Democrats are just barely winning.

00:25:26.480 And this is part of the reason why a lot of people feel like, oh, well, the manipulation that's happening, the cheating that's happening is getting—

00:25:32.540 Particularly the presidentialism.

00:25:33.580 Just over the edge.

00:25:35.740 And really, the better way to look at this is like the movie Moneyball.

00:25:39.220 Okay.

00:25:39.420 The way statistically, if you've watched the movie Moneyball, it's how the MLB basically operates today, right, where it's like it's a series of equations that if you put in and if you apply the right pressure, you're more likely to win.

00:25:52.940 Right.

00:25:53.420 And this is effectively what the Democrats have done.

00:25:55.300 They have a myriad of things that they've done to manipulate the elections.

00:25:58.520 One of the biggest ways they manipulated elections is they figured out, well, if we flood the zone with ballots, which is what they've tried to do, and then we look at the individuals who are less likely to vote.

00:26:09.240 So they take advantage of people who are less likely to vote.

00:26:11.780 Well, who is that?

00:26:12.860 Typically really young people and typically really old people.

00:26:15.400 Super seniors.

00:26:16.420 Right.

00:26:16.800 People who just typically don't vote because they're aged out.

00:26:20.380 They don't make it to the polls.

00:26:22.440 They're lazy.

00:26:23.620 Young people are typically not in the know of what's happening politically.

00:26:27.660 Yeah.

00:26:28.060 And so 18-year-olds, 19-year-olds are some of the least likely people to vote typically.

00:26:32.420 Well, if you give every 18-year-old a ballot and then I can go to your door and sell you on one issue, micro-target you on one issue, I'm going to be much more likely to be able to get you to turn in your ballot.

00:26:43.480 And that's just what the Democrats have figured out, right?

00:26:45.380 Honestly, that started with all the climate stuff, right?

00:26:47.820 You know.

00:26:48.500 This is why they've pushed climate change.

00:26:50.480 This is why they've pushed abortion so heavily.

00:26:52.120 And this was really the strategy that was solidified during the Obama years, which the historic precedent was you win a primary, you move to the middle.

00:27:04.860 Which, by the way, and I just have to say it because I have you on.

00:27:07.920 When is the last time you actually heard anybody arguing about health care?

00:27:11.500 No.

00:27:11.880 Remember during the Obama years, health care, health care, health care, health care, health care.

00:27:15.060 They were just dominating the airwaves, dominating the streets.

00:27:18.540 If you were going to college at that time, there was somebody with a clipboard, health care, health care, health care.

00:27:22.980 Now it is gone.

00:27:24.320 I couldn't even tell you the last time somebody brought it up.

00:27:26.560 Yeah, it's not a positive thing for Democrats now, right?

00:27:28.780 So this is how it works.

00:27:31.200 Don't listen to that part, Democrats.

00:27:32.440 This is how it works, right?

00:27:33.600 So anything that they can take advantage of, any issue, singular issue, they do because they know those low propensity, what we call low propensity, which means they're less likely to vote or they vote more rarely.

00:27:47.260 They can go to the door of that person, identify that that is a subject that they care about, and then use that topic in order to extract the vote.

00:27:56.420 And so this is what they've done so effectively.

00:27:59.020 Well, meanwhile, Republicans are talking about everything under the sun publicly.

00:28:02.240 This is the old way of doing politics.

00:28:03.820 It's the honest way of doing politics, right?

00:28:05.500 Which is go out in public, get in on a debate stage, talk about everything, right?

00:28:11.280 And then try to win over people because this is – you have a good view of what you believe and you have a good view of what I believe, and then you can pick who you pick.

00:28:20.800 But what they've done – and I know we talked about this a couple of months ago here on Election Day in Arizona – is they've shifted the system itself in these areas where they have this control away from a vote-based system to a ballot-based system.

00:28:38.480 And what are the differences between votes and ballots – and everyone should go read the conservative treehouse explanation on this – is that what you're talking about is mass movements of people showing up to vote on Election Day because they believe in X candidate versus this extraction method of simply – call it moneyball politics where it's just all about putting pieces of paper in the ballot.

00:29:01.320 And the more pieces of paper that get in, the more chance you have of winning.

00:29:04.680 And that's the moneyball concept, right?

00:29:06.160 Because they know no matter what we do, a certain percentage of the electorate is going to show up.

00:29:11.820 Yes.

00:29:12.240 No matter what we do on the left and the right.

00:29:15.200 And so now it's come down to, okay, well, who's not going to show up?

00:29:18.620 Even the people who get turned off to your candidate like Trump or whoever, right, or Biden on either side or Hillary.

00:29:26.220 Romney.

00:29:26.740 It's only going to be a single-digit percentage, right?

00:29:29.140 Even if it's like 6% instead of 5% or something, right, or Romney.

00:29:34.000 The numbers are relatively small.

00:29:37.080 The big number that exists out there are the people who haven't voted, the people who are sitting at home that haven't turned in the ballot.

00:29:43.180 And so the extraction process of that is so much more valuable and better money spent.

00:29:48.460 Because it's money that – or it's a vote that wouldn't have come out otherwise.

00:29:51.540 That's key.

00:29:52.280 We're going to stick with Tyler Boyer as we dig through this.

00:29:55.080 Turning Point Action, the conference comes up July 15th, 16th.

00:29:59.220 You must be there.

00:30:00.320 This is a working session.

00:30:01.920 Scott Presser will be leading working groups to explain how we can fight back and win.

00:30:07.100 Stay tuned.

00:30:07.420 Come right back.

00:30:07.820 Okay, we're back.

00:30:11.960 Tyler Boyer here, the COO of Turning Point Action.

00:30:15.760 Tyler, you were breaking down for us the importance of extracting this extra – it's almost like a bonus percentage of ballots that we can get out for these races.

00:30:24.460 And because the Democrats are doing this, and in many cases Republicans are not – just set the stakes.

00:30:31.460 Set the table for us.

00:30:32.360 You're going through process.

00:30:33.560 We need that.

00:30:34.340 But set the stakes.

00:30:36.000 What happens if Republicans don't do this and decide to shut the door on it and say, you know what?

00:30:41.340 That's not how I like doing politics.

00:30:43.340 That's not how we should be running elections.

00:30:45.620 I don't like it.

00:30:46.600 And by the way, I don't like this either personally.

00:30:49.240 I find in a sense – I find it to be immoral, right?

00:30:53.140 But at the same time, because you're supposed to be getting the view of the people, the will of the people.

00:30:58.980 The organic.

00:30:59.440 The organic actual will of the people.

00:31:01.740 And yet they've changed the system in these areas.

00:31:05.340 And so the only way that we can restore a moral order to politics is through fighting fire with fire.

00:31:12.640 What happens if we don't do this?

00:31:14.980 Well, I mean, look, we just talked about it.

00:31:17.080 So if we look at this from a numbers perspective, what the left has figured out is that there's only a certain percentage that you're ever going to be able to move, right?

00:31:24.920 Right.

00:31:25.100 So a very small single-digit percentage is ever going to pull off of a candidate if they're the nominee for Republicans or the nominee for Democrats.

00:31:32.200 So this means that you have to, no matter what, you have to do this work if they're doing this work.

00:31:38.720 Because think about it.

00:31:39.680 If Democrats have figured out, well, okay, let's say anybody, let's say you're our nominee, right?

00:31:46.800 Let's go.

00:31:47.700 And you lose 7%.

00:31:50.480 What?

00:31:51.020 Because of, you know, something that you've said in your past and they hit hard.

00:31:54.780 I may have had some spicy tweets, all right, but I stand by all of them.

00:31:58.340 So if you're the nominee for the party, we know that if we can overcome that 7% in that sheer, we know what that hard number is, right?

00:32:07.660 Right.

00:32:07.980 If that projected number is...

00:32:09.100 And I remember this because we used to say, we used to just call that the ground game.

00:32:11.940 Yeah.

00:32:12.960 Now it's just, you go, now if we can flood the zone with ballots and make up that number, you're more likely to win in a tight race in a close state.

00:32:22.320 Now, if you can go beyond that, right, far beyond that, now it's really tough for the other side, especially if you're picking up votes that are independent, middle of the road, swing voters, because that's a two for one vote, right?

00:32:33.240 Because every time I get a vote that's a swing vote, I'm taking one away from you and I'm getting one, right?

00:32:39.020 And so if that person doesn't vote, you're not really losing much.

00:32:42.620 If that person does vote, it's like you're a plus two if that person votes for you.

00:32:46.480 So this is the reason why it doesn't really matter who our nominee is for any race, really, right?

00:32:52.360 This is the reason why John Fetterman can get elected in Pennsylvania.

00:32:56.460 Look, as hard as it is to hear that, it doesn't matter who our nominee is.

00:33:01.080 And I get that you're, look, here's something that I've always told candidates back when I used to consult on campaigns or just work on campaigns.

00:33:08.140 I would say it is not the quality of your votes that matters.

00:33:12.580 It is the quantity of your votes that matters.

00:33:14.760 And that, the way to flip that around today is you would say, unfortunately, as John Fetterman explains, it is not the quality of your candidate that matters.

00:33:23.740 Yeah, candidate quality.

00:33:24.980 Not if you're in an area with this system.

00:33:26.880 Candidate quality is cherries on the cake, right?

00:33:30.000 Yeah.

00:33:30.100 So the better your candidate is, the smaller, ideally, that margin that you're going to lose is going to be, right?

00:33:37.060 Right.

00:33:37.220 And so that just means that more votes that you go out and you get in inorganic ways, right?

00:33:42.980 So these are inorganic ways that the Democrats are shoveling votes into the system.

00:33:47.340 And when we say Democrats, we really mean leftist organizations going out and doing this work.

00:33:50.900 Because they've understood for a while, and you saw this in 2016, they, the sort of all the great, you know, mega donors of the party.

00:33:58.360 And, you know, people talk about Soros, but he's not the only one.

00:34:00.680 They decided, Reid Hoffman is another one of these, Steve Jobs' widow, Lorraine Powell Jobs is one of them, that the DNC, the party, wasn't the right vehicle for this because it was too clunky.

00:34:12.700 It was too bogged down with prior relationships, too much political infighting, et cetera.

00:34:18.620 And so they just set up an entire ecosystem of a democratic machine outside of the party structure itself.

00:34:28.020 This is your dark money groups.

00:34:29.700 This is yours, 501c3s.

00:34:31.640 This is your 501c4s.

00:34:33.080 These are all super PACs now.

00:34:34.800 All this stuff, which actually exists to win elections, and they just kind of use the DNC to run the convention.

00:34:41.000 Yeah.

00:34:41.480 And this is, and also I'll throw in there, Sam Bankman-Fried, right?

00:34:45.580 Sam Bankman-Fried, right.

00:34:46.420 So, I mean, this is where all this came into play, and people are losing their minds that are studying this is because we were, and they're like, oh, well, he donated to Republicans.

00:34:56.880 Yeah, but Republican money, when it's being donated by donors right now, is going into things that are ineffective at a 80% level.

00:35:05.720 That's about the number that I give it.

00:35:07.000 Meanwhile, while the Democrats have these systems that are built in the place that are, they're maximizing every dime that they get from donors to go into the system that's a ballot-chasing heavy system.

00:35:18.320 In addition to doing all the work, you know, they're trying to manipulate our elections, they're suing the courts to try to take advantage of specific counties that matter.

00:35:27.660 And to make these laws better for them in these areas.

00:35:29.780 There's only about 17 counties that matter, right, to win the election.

00:35:32.700 So, this isn't rocket science, right?

00:35:35.880 If we're doing this right, you know, as Republicans, as conservatives, what we should be doing is going to donors and saying, hey, stop giving Mitch McConnell money and start funding litigation that's going to stop Democrats from manipulating our elections at the county level.

00:35:51.680 Now, what can you do additionally is providing additional resources to build the army.

00:35:56.920 It doesn't matter if you support Trump.

00:35:58.520 It doesn't matter if you support DeSantis.

00:36:00.280 It doesn't matter if you support Tim Scott.

00:36:02.120 It doesn't matter who you like.

00:36:04.200 You have to build the infrastructure that's going to be able to get this work done no matter who the nominee becomes.

00:36:09.840 Because if you don't do that, they're laughing at us every time because they have the infrastructure they're building.

00:36:16.940 I think I'll just bottom line it.

00:36:18.360 If we don't do this, we lose.

00:36:20.280 I mean, constantly, right?

00:36:21.780 And the scary part about this is—

00:36:23.560 And all the arguments about 2024 and all the memes and the Twitter battles and all the rest of it.

00:36:30.600 None of it matters.

00:36:31.560 Doesn't matter.

00:36:32.060 None of it matters.

00:36:32.920 And the scary part is, though, it's not just losing the election, the 270 electoral college votes that we know are at play.

00:36:40.360 It's can they utilize this?

00:36:42.020 And this is what the left is doing.

00:36:43.020 They're sick people.

00:36:43.900 They want to manipulate elections in states like Idaho and Utah and Tennessee.

00:36:48.880 And this is what I've been telling people.

00:36:51.100 And we had a tweet go viral about six months ago, almost a year ago, I think, that you retweeted where I let people know.

00:36:58.460 I said, look, these are the states where if they manipulate the elections enough in these states, you're never going to get the country back.

00:37:04.640 Because think about it.

00:37:05.520 I mean, Idaho.

00:37:07.520 I've never even considered Idaho as a battleground state.

00:37:09.780 And look, Idaho is—they did the right thing.

00:37:12.360 They stopped ranked choice voting there.

00:37:13.620 But ranked choice voting is one of those examples.

00:37:15.300 We won't get into it.

00:37:16.220 But you're right, though.

00:37:17.180 Ranked choice voting is a perfect example of this, where they can come in and manipulate elections.

00:37:22.760 Typically, it can help the status quo type candidates.

00:37:25.880 But that being said, if you're on the right side of the system of it, they can put whoever they want in.

00:37:29.920 They can manipulate everything.

00:37:31.600 And so then you lose—you start losing states that you don't anticipate losing.

00:37:35.200 I mean, look what happened in Alaska, for example, right?

00:37:37.340 Right.

00:37:37.600 Alaska is the canary in the coal mine.

00:37:40.000 You start having these things happen.

00:37:42.100 Well, it's going to be really challenging to ever win the country back.

00:37:45.000 You're talking about a single-party, one-party rule system.

00:37:48.220 Because if all we're doing is playing defense and they're constantly on offense, then we're not putting points on the board.

00:37:54.040 You're never going to.

00:37:54.900 And so this is the time where it's like, well, we've got to fight these battles.

00:37:58.740 But in order to fight battles, you've got to win.

00:38:00.080 And how do you win?

00:38:01.180 You put more points on the board than the other team.

00:38:03.040 I'll ask you, and you can say if you want to, but, you know, look, I've talked about this.

00:38:09.160 I've talked about this directly to President Trump.

00:38:12.620 I know other people have.

00:38:13.960 He's been out publicly speaking about it.

00:38:15.860 Do you feel that he really is embracing it as much as he says he is?

00:38:19.480 I think organically the entire movement is.

00:38:22.200 And a lot of it's thanks to the work that you're doing and that our good friends Charlie and Charlie Kirk and so many others have been doing,

00:38:30.120 which is having an open, honest dialogue discussion about this, right?

00:38:35.200 And this is what's helping lead the charge.

00:38:37.800 And Scott Pressler, obviously, we need to give a lot of credit to Scott and so many others.

00:38:41.420 He's leading the charge saying, hey, look, this is the most critical thing.

00:38:46.200 Now, the big question is now people are starting to embrace like, oh, okay, yeah, this makes sense.

00:38:51.620 Now the question is how do we functionally build this the correct way?

00:38:55.580 Because, again, what the Democrats have figured out a long time ago is the Democrat Party is useless.

00:38:59.840 The Democrat Party is in no place to build this and keep it running, this engine running, year in and year out.

00:39:07.560 And there's an equal argument to be made that the RNC, the Republican Party, can't do this long term.

00:39:13.620 There's things that the Republican Party should be doing that they're probably not doing perfectly and they could be doing a lot better right now.

00:39:19.900 But they shouldn't be running these operations because you need outside groups to do that for you so that they stay well-oiled and like a well-oiled machine year in and year out.

00:39:31.060 And that's the challenge.

00:39:31.660 And you're solely focused on this.

00:39:34.600 When we come back, we're coming up on our last break, but when we do come back, I want to get into with you some of the specifics on how we can build this out.

00:39:42.200 And look, at the end of the day, we want to win.

00:39:44.400 Yeah.

00:39:45.000 We want to win.

00:39:46.240 We're going to put points on the board.

00:39:47.780 I don't want to be looking at any of these election nights again where, oh, the mail-in ballots came in at 3 in the morning.

00:39:53.960 The mail-in ballots come in at 4 in the morning.

00:39:56.020 And all the numbers change.

00:39:57.640 All the trajectories change.

00:39:59.020 I'm sick of it.

00:39:59.960 And if it's going to happen, I say, look, I said this already.

00:40:03.520 If they bring 2,000 mules, we bring 10,000.

00:40:07.940 All right, back to it with Tyler Boyer here on Human Events.

00:40:10.320 Look, Tyler, when I see Dylan Mulvaney, when I see these TikTokers going to the White House, even the one who was making a complete fool of her, him, I don't even know what kind of self, at the Pride celebration, you know, we laugh about it and we make fun of it. 1.00

00:40:24.620 But I think we also need to understand that that's part of an operation from the left because that's a reward for people that have gone in and used their social media through these engines and through these operations to drive out ballots, to drive out votes, to drive out mail-in votes, early voting for Democrat candidates.

00:40:43.480 So when you're looking at someone like this, oh, this person's a, you know, they're a sideshow, they're a carnival show.

00:40:49.360 Well, you know what?

00:40:50.280 That's part of an operation.

00:40:51.740 And if we don't have respect for that, for all of the different operations that they're running, this is key because, look, you can have a TikToker with 2 million fans and guess what?

00:41:01.800 Boom, they're on live stream.

00:41:02.840 They've got 100,000 watching live.

00:41:04.400 And tonight we're going to focus on Pennsylvania.

00:41:06.340 Tonight we're going to focus on abortion. 0.74

00:41:08.500 Tonight we're going to focus on guns, whatever it is.

00:41:10.820 And then David Hogg is out there with guns, someone else will come up on trans issues, whatever it is.

00:41:15.660 This is micro-targeting of micro-targeting because influencers can play a huge role in this to directly affect ballots, not indirectly, directly affect ballots.

00:41:25.620 But also you have a situation, and you were breaking this down for us, we really do need this regional micro-targeting of voters.

00:41:32.780 How does that actually work?

00:41:34.640 Yeah, I mean, you're bringing up something that there's two different sides to think about when you're looking at this like an influencer type thing.

00:41:40.820 Number one is they're collecting data on users, typically.

00:41:44.280 Yes.

00:41:44.700 So when you comment, you don't realize this, but when you comment or you follow somebody based around a topic, then they know they can go to your door and target you based off of that topic.

00:41:54.520 So if, for example, you brought up...

00:41:56.620 Because guess what, folks?

00:41:57.600 Your data is for sale.

00:41:59.180 You think you're just privately on those lists?

00:42:01.460 No.

00:42:01.580 And you brought up David Hogg.

00:42:02.960 So like once they know that you're against guns, right?

00:42:06.820 Right.

00:42:06.960 Now they know they can go to your door and try to get you to turn over your ballot on the topic of being anti-gun, right?

00:42:13.300 Or like if you're pro-trans.

00:42:14.620 So a lot of people are like...

00:42:15.480 Or, but on our side, you could say maybe if you followed Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:42:19.080 Right.

00:42:19.540 We could use that data.

00:42:20.480 We don't use that data.

00:42:21.500 We should be using that data.

00:42:23.420 Instead of, you know, we have a lot of establishment people that laugh at that.

00:42:26.940 Meanwhile, the left is using that data to micro-target those individuals that typically don't vote, right?

00:42:32.040 Because they've given up on the system or they're young or whatever.

00:42:35.860 Right.

00:42:36.360 On our side, just think about this.

00:42:38.120 So you have a scenario where a lot of people have been like, well, how is the trans issue moving votes?

00:42:47.000 Like this is like less than probably 3% of the American populace actually thinks about trans issues.

00:42:53.220 They care.

00:42:53.840 Well, if you look at that, remember, let's go back to that, those percentages that we talked about.

00:42:58.920 Let's say you lose or, you know, we have a neck and neck Senate race, like in the state of Arizona, for example, this last election cycle, where in polling, it was within one percentage point.

00:43:09.280 Or next time it'll be when it's neck and neck and neck.

00:43:11.520 Right.

00:43:11.940 Neck and neck and neck.

00:43:12.760 Right.

00:43:13.080 With Kyrsten Sinema.

00:43:14.020 If it's within two or three percentage points, well, if you have a body of people that are easily targetable, like people in the trans community in Arizona, which are, you know, are people that support the trans agenda, right?

00:43:27.800 You're talking three, four or five.

00:43:30.240 Now it's even larger because they've popularized it within the Democrat Party.

00:43:33.920 Now all we have to do is identify those people based off of their feedback, their social, the surveys that they filled out, and then go to their door and say, do you care about trans issues?

00:43:43.980 Yeah, I care about trans issues.

00:43:45.040 Well, there's only one candidate.

00:43:46.060 Give me your ballot, right?

00:43:47.080 Or fill out your ballot in this way, and we'll walk you to your mailbox.

00:43:50.260 And so that's how they're hyper-targeting these people and these fringe issues, right?

00:43:54.080 Meanwhile, our side, the establishment, you know, laughs at people who have conservative, that stand behind conservative principles instead of trying to work with those people to turn in their ballots.

00:44:03.960 So Tyler, we've got a couple of minutes left for the end of the show.

00:44:06.880 You're running Turning Point Action.

00:44:08.740 What is the plan?

00:44:09.620 Are you going to be hiring people to put bodies where they need to be to actually do this work?

00:44:15.080 Yeah, and this is the core, right, is the fundamental change in how we go about this business on the conservative movement.

00:44:21.700 And what we're doing at Turning Point Action, and a huge credit, again, to Charlie Kirk, who, you know, we work with you, that works so closely with us, and so many people that have been supportive.

00:44:31.800 We're building the first ever, I think, large-scale ballot-chasing army to do that specific work, which is identify those people on our side that we can micro-target and go to, give them a reason to vote, right, that are not voting right now.

00:44:45.740 And we have many.

00:44:46.460 We have many, many people.

00:44:47.440 But, again, the establishment, historical precedent that's been set by the Republican Party is, oh, just forget about those people.

00:44:55.520 Move to the middle, and that's how you're going to get them.

00:44:57.200 That's not how you're going to get these people.

00:44:58.620 That's actually the opposite approach of how you're going to get these people, which, again, the Obama people figured out in their race, and they've lived by that ever since.

00:45:05.420 And so for us, it's now build the army, go into Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, build the army, go to Pennsylvania, right?

00:45:13.160 We're going to have the largest army that we've ever built in these states, particularly Pennsylvania.

00:45:18.320 We'll talk about Pennsylvania, my friend.

00:45:20.140 And this is a place where now the Democrats are going to be outgunned, outnumbered.

00:45:26.240 We have a larger, more reliable base of voters.

00:45:32.060 We just have to give them the right tools in order to go to the right doors and chase the right ballots that we need in order to win.

00:45:38.360 And here's the thing, is in some of these areas where, and I remember when Trump won in 2016 in Pennsylvania, even to me it was a shock, because Pennsylvania is one of those states, like you were just talking about, Nevada, where it just always seemed just out of reach for Romney, for Bush Jr., for McCain.

00:45:59.060 And then Trump comes in, and he's able to do it exactly by what you just said, by driving out those lower propensity voters, particularly organically.

00:46:08.600 Organically, right.

00:46:09.380 He did it all organically.

00:46:10.320 With Trump's personality, his force of personality, and particularly with his agenda on trade.

00:46:17.480 These were the sons and daughters, in some cases, grandsons and granddaughters of the Reagan Democrats, who were the coalition that swung Pennsylvania and the rest of the Rust Belt over for Trump.

00:46:28.780 With this plan, with Turning Point Action, you can easily go in.

00:46:33.760 Not easily, but the system isn't hard once you've figured it out.

00:46:37.540 It's just going to take a lot of boot leather.

00:46:39.600 It's going to take a lot of people working together.

00:46:41.460 A lot of data.

00:46:42.320 A lot of technology.

00:46:43.480 A lot of tech.

00:46:44.420 But it's so doable.

00:46:45.540 It's so doable.

00:46:46.420 And, Jack, I just want to remind you, what happened in 2016 organically is never going to happen again.

00:46:50.740 That's right.

00:46:51.100 Why?

00:46:52.100 Because the billionaires on the left looked at that embarrassed.

00:46:56.000 They never thought that.

00:46:56.880 They got embarrassed.

00:46:57.580 They didn't spend the money to do the chasing, number one.

00:47:01.680 They didn't think they had to.

00:47:02.560 Some of it wasn't developed, but they didn't have to because they thought, oh, Hillary's got this in the bag, right?

00:47:06.760 All the polling showed.

00:47:07.600 But Hillary was supposed to win. 1.00

00:47:08.640 She had a 99.8% chance.

00:47:10.620 Ukraine would have been started five years ago.

00:47:12.960 They thought there was no chance in heck that she was going to lose.

00:47:15.840 And so they're never going to let that happen again.

00:47:18.180 That's even more reason why we have to build this.

00:47:20.800 They're never going to let this happen again.

00:47:22.920 That means if we do not embrace this, we are going to lose.

00:47:28.140 Tyler Boyer, Turning Point Action.

00:47:29.680 Can't wait for the action conference coming up later next month.

00:47:33.360 I'm going to be there.

00:47:34.200 Believe it or not, Tanya Tay is planning to do a road trip down the East Coast and then end in Florida for the convention. 1.00

00:47:44.580 I said, I don't know if I can do that.

00:47:45.780 I've got to do the show.

00:47:46.700 I've got to do everything else.

00:47:48.100 But maybe we'll work it out.

00:47:50.140 You need to bring your whole family on stage with you.

00:47:52.020 That's what you've got to do.

00:47:52.580 Let's do it.

00:47:53.080 Do the Benny Johnson style.

00:47:54.040 Do the Benny Johnson style.

00:47:55.280 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay short.

00:47:58.260 Do the Benny Johnson style.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - June 15, 2023

EPISODE 497： TRUMP SOARS AFTER DOJ INDICTMENT, BALLOT OPERATIONS UPDATE

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