Jack Posobiec talks about a new poll that shows Joe Biden losing ground in the primary to Republican challenger Ron DeSantis. Plus, a new update on the search for the missing Titanic submersible, and the latest on the disappearance of the missing wreck of the Costa Concord.
00:02:55.320The Coast Guard has found a debris field in the search for the Titanic sub containing the rear cover and landing frame, which indicates a catastrophic implosion, say experts.
00:03:09.780We're going to have more on that with a Coast Guard press conference that's set to take place at 3 p.m. Eastern.
00:03:17.100So immediately following this show, we're also going to have a DCS wrote on.
00:03:21.080But I want to go to panic for Democrats as a new poll shows Biden would lose to Trump if a third-party candidate entered the race.
00:03:31.880This is a data for progress poll Democrats are worried no labels could run a third-party candidate that would cause Joe Biden to lose the re-election.
00:03:54.340Now, there's a lot of different options for this because, of course, RFK's coalition, as we talked about with Richard Barris yesterday, the People's Pundit, it does marry up with President Trump's existing support pays with the working class.
00:04:27.460But I do think that there are a vast majority of issues from a political and an electoral standpoint where there would be populist crossover between the two candidates.
00:04:36.560But this is a huge indication that Joe Biden is in a lot of danger right now.
00:04:42.820And it's a huge indication that Trump is in a much stronger position that everybody believes.
00:04:48.900And so, you know, of course, we had you guys may have seen on Tim Pool last night that there was a there was an interesting version of Tim Pool that hosted the show.
00:04:58.820It seemed like some people thought it was me, but actually, you know, that was Tim 2.0 that definitely, you know, I don't know what you guys are talking about.
00:05:05.740I'm the host of Human Events, even though, I mean, that host last night, handsome, charming, dashing, brilliant.
00:05:26.340Raheem Kassam is going to join us in the next segment, because one of the things that I keep getting asked about, why are so many people suddenly jumping into the race for president?
00:05:37.900We've got Will Hurd, the CIA agent out of Texas, who's running.
00:05:41.420Rick Scott is talking about getting in the senator from Florida.
00:05:44.620Obviously, that would have ramifications for Ron DeSantis, both being from the same state.
00:05:48.720Then we're also hearing talk that Glenn Youngkin, the current governor of Virginia, who is term limited at one term, could also potentially be looking at getting in the race.
00:06:00.120Larry Hogan out there talking about Ron DeSantis, saying Ron DeSantis hasn't quite stuck the landing.
00:06:07.080He's not the person that people thought he was.
00:06:09.220He doesn't have the campaign chops that people thought it was going to have, kind of like a minor leaguer who gets called up to the majors too early.
00:06:17.100We will see why is it that there seems to be a feeding frenzy right now for obviously Chris Christie, since we're talking about feeding frenzies on the Republican side.
00:06:28.980We're going to get into all this and more.
00:06:30.860And will Gavin Newsom pop into the race on the Democrat side?
00:06:39.660Not a lot of time to get it because there's a lot going on in our world.
00:06:43.680But we are going to make sure that you are completely informed and much more informed than apparently the Ukrainian counteroffensive was that has been at this point.
00:06:53.520Looks like they're calling things off.
00:09:47.520All right, I want to bring on our next guest, Raheem Kassam, editor-in-chief of the National Pulse.
00:09:54.080Raheem, you guys have been running stories about all these candidates that are getting in the race, that are testing the waters, potentially getting in the race.
00:10:01.380Now you've got a guy like Larry Hogan, which many people see as sort of this avatar of the GOP establishment.
00:10:45.880How else to describe it than than the same phrase I've used now for weeks and weeks, if not months on end, which is turmoil in Tallahassee.
00:10:56.660And it is a it is a distinct, you know, people who have worked campaigns and I don't mean, you know, people who have knocked a few doors as grateful as people are for that work.
00:11:10.600I mean, if you have not slept for three or four days running because you've been working at a campaign headquarters, if you've been managing your principal, you look at a situation like that that they've got in Tallahassee.
00:11:25.600You look at a situation that they've got at the very top of the DeSantis campaign, and it's abundantly, painfully obvious to those with any campaign experience that this is not going to be the team that gets Ron, not even over the line, but even in even in close contention.
00:12:03.280Ron DeSantis, the popular good governor, great governor.
00:12:10.180Many people say, many of my Florida friends say, who is not just ruining himself in this election cycle and is not just ruining it for himself in four years time, but is actually ruining himself in perpetuity for what?
00:12:26.420For a couple of ego trips that are given to him by his back slapping buddies who might be on the board at Fox News and so on and so forth.
00:12:33.300And of course, his aspirational family around him, less we say about that, perhaps right now, probably the better.
00:12:40.780But there's another point about all of this that I want to make, and it's that people need to to to internalize.
00:12:47.660Now, the Ron DeSantis is primary Hillary, you know, got the got the media at his back.
00:12:56.180You can have free airtime on Fox whenever he wants.
00:12:59.220Get scarcely any critique by the corporate press, by the New York Times, by Politico, by the Washington Post, all of these guys.
00:13:08.040Yeah, every so often they'll throw out a story or two, something light, a little slap around the wrist.
00:13:13.360But that's generic Republican slap around the wrist.
00:14:00.780And now he's having to run to the lawyers and lobbyists of Dominion Voting Systems in D.C., where he will host a fundraiser tomorrow at the lawyer of Dominion Voting Systems offices.
00:14:13.720I mean, this is critical, critical desperation.
00:14:18.820Well, and, you know, there's a lot of people that that are looking at this and they're also taking a look and talking about Gavin Newsom, who's also on sort of a media tour right now.
00:14:29.600He's in a bit of a back and forth with DeSantis, a tête-à -tête, as they're traveling to each other's states, fundraisers, et cetera.
00:14:38.040But Gavin Newsom, you notice, is not running against Biden.
00:14:42.740Instead, he's willing to say, I support Biden.
00:16:53.680And that's actually before Ron DeSantis announced that he was running.
00:16:57.520You were essentially calling that he had already peaked the primaries effectively over the indictment.
00:17:02.820Now we're seeing multiple indictments, probably two or three more yet to drop, galvanizing Trump's support.
00:17:08.920Do you think it would have made sense for him to more to play this better the way that Newsom played it?
00:17:13.760Well, look, you made the you made the correct point there, which is that was before the launch.
00:17:20.620So it was a heck of a roll of the dice for me to say what I was going to say, what I said, because you expect a bump in the poll after your campaign launch.
00:17:28.380And I took the opinion that I don't think he is going to have a particularly good campaign launch.
00:17:32.840Obviously, I couldn't predict that it was going to be as bad and glitchy and botched as it was.
00:17:38.160And it turned out that once again, Tallahassee delivered and Tallahassee continues to deliver.
00:17:42.720You know, the secret here is is he needs a shakeup of the campaign in a drastic, drastic way.
00:17:51.280I mean, the chief consultant, Jeff Rowe, has to go.
00:17:53.780The top staff in there right now, Pushaw and all these guys, they have to go.
00:17:57.600They have shown themselves to be fundamentally incompetent and they are ruining one of the best governors in America by continuing on this arrogant course, arguing with people online.
00:18:06.060It doesn't work. And that, by the way, is why people are jumping into the race.
00:18:09.060Right. To answer your very first question is people have seen this and they've allowed him this litmus test over the last couple of months.
00:18:15.820Hey, can you break through? Can you break through nationally? No.
00:18:18.300Can you break through locally anywhere? No. Can you break through in your own state?
00:18:34.620No, I think I think that potential shakeups are something and we've seen this from campaign after campaign.
00:18:40.740This wouldn't be the first time that you saw campaign shakeups.
00:18:43.360That could be something that comes out, having a new potential tack on things, a sort of a relaunch, if you will.
00:18:51.000Stay tuned. We're coming right back with Raheem Kassam more after this.
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00:20:22.360Raheem Kassam, I wanted to get your answer on that question, though, because we've seen now this, the way, okay, the way DeSantis played this.
00:20:32.320And people are saying, it started out with us saying it, and you were saying it even before he got in the race.
00:20:37.580Now you've got Larry Hogan saying it, who's not exactly some Trump supporter.
00:20:41.760I mean, he's definitely not a Trump supporter.
00:20:43.620But this question about the underperformance of Ron DeSantis, I said in the intro, it's like a minor leaguer who gets called up to the majors a bit too early.
00:20:53.660It's not that he doesn't have the chops. It's just that the whole package isn't quite there yet.
00:20:58.500But when you look at like a Gavin Newsom, the way that he's playing it on the other side of the aisle, it seems as though he's standing there.
00:21:06.020He's letting, you know, letting the party bosses know, hey, I'm right here if you need me.
00:21:09.800I'm going to be on the team, I'm going to be supportive, but I'm here if you need me.
00:21:14.360Do you think that DeSantis would have been better served playing it like that?
00:21:19.440By the way, before we get into that, tea drinkers of the world unite, quite frankly.
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00:22:04.360Listen, I've long been a fan of Tupac's Hit Em Up as one of the one of the pivotal diss tracks.
00:22:09.880And I'm more than happy to be not just in the music video, but a supporting act, a dancer, in fact, behind Donald Trump in the video, which was which is wonderful.
00:22:19.440A couple of things that I just want to make a point of on the back to the politics for a second.
00:22:24.540And that's, you know, I really do think of this campaign that Ron DeSantis is running as the kind of fire fest of political campaigns at the moment.
00:22:34.900Everything seemingly that can go wrong is going wrong.
00:22:38.980And everybody gets to watch it in real time.
00:22:41.240I mean, it's it's extraordinary to behold.
00:22:43.960And you talked earlier on about that, you know, you call it a tête-à -tête against Gavin Newsom.
00:22:49.920But, you know, what was the tête-à -tête?
00:22:52.080The tête-à -tête was Newsom says, let's debate.
00:23:41.900And not only are they not seeing a shift in their favor, they're seeing a slip in the polls.
00:23:47.960Now, there's another way to think about this.
00:23:50.000I saw Jason Miller posted the graph of, you know, the more money they raise, the further down in the polls, the inverse correlation there.
00:23:57.720I actually believe that every time Ron DeSantis gets up on a stage and starts talking about woke, woke and his nasal woke, that's when he starts slipping in the polls.
00:24:09.280Because being anti woke and is just the bottom like bar, the bottom rung of the ladder of conservatism.
00:24:17.720You know, you don't get to be celebrated because you're not a communist and not a Satanist.
00:24:24.020And that's what he's going around doing.
00:24:26.140He's going around giving speeches and going, aren't I brilliant for not being a communist and not being a Satanist?
00:24:32.140And everyone's like, yeah, I mean, we do expect that from you, though, mate, like, to be honest with you.
00:24:38.300And I think this is where it's all falling down.
00:24:40.400It's going to fall down further because, you know, I don't expect Rick Scott and I don't expect Will Hurd to poll it more than one to three percent.
00:24:48.960And that's with a margin of error of about three and a half percent.
00:24:52.000But they won't be taking from Trump those one and three percent.
00:24:55.460They will be taking from Ron DeSantis.
00:24:57.380So maybe I'll make another maybe I'll make another prediction right here, by the way, like the one I made when you played in the last segment.
00:25:07.860Well, here's here's the the issue as well, is that we were going through and I hear this, by the way, in leaked audio, by the way, from the national polls dot com,
00:25:16.340where they were laying out this delegate math strategy, this delegate math strategy for how Ron DeSantis can pick up delegates throughout the country and then be, you know, in some of the states where like Iowa, for example,
00:25:29.400which apportions delegates throughout the caucus system, then other states like Texas and Florida are winner take all.
00:25:34.940The issue then with Rick Scott running is that if he's able to pick up establishment GOP support, if Ron DeSantis picks up, you know, sort of that anti-Trump Republican support,
00:25:48.060plus, you know, I'm sure plenty of people in Florida just generally support him as the governor.
00:25:51.900But if if they divvy up that support base, Trump could come in with 34, 35, 36, even 40 percent, give or take, and he could sweep all of those delegates.
00:26:05.560So if Rick Scott gets in the race, that's actually setting up the potential for DeSantis to lose his home state, isn't it?
00:26:12.300Absolutely. Absolutely. As if as if he wasn't already running on that trajectory.
00:26:16.920And that's that's another disaster that's that's looming around the corner for him.
00:26:21.420And now, listen, I know there was some controversy the other day about this idea that they wanted to change the rules of the convention to bar somebody who's indicted or whatever from not standing.
00:26:31.180And it became kind of a theoretical. And he said, she said, OK, let me say something here.
00:26:35.960OK, DeSantis people and DeSantis supporters and friends of DeSantis supporters have said to me for months now that they are looking at how to change the rules at the convention to pick up, you know, so that they can rig it.
00:26:46.440Right. Rig it in their favor. This is, by the way, the same thing we heard in 16, the exact same thing for Cleveland.
00:26:52.740It's exactly the same thing. We're not saying like, oh, there's this new thing that's happening.
00:26:57.880And it's Jeff Rowe. He did this for Cruz in 2016. He's now running the DeSantis team.
00:27:03.680Actually, if you want for a little bit of spicy political trivia, the strategy to essentially take the nomination away from Trump at the convention by changing the convention rules was originally referred to as the steal of the 2016 Cleveland nomination.
00:27:28.980And to wit, the original use of the phrase stop the steal actually referred to this strategy of taking the candidates, excuse me, the delegates away and the nomination away from Trump by the delegates at the RNC in Cleveland 2016.
00:27:46.740That's where stop the steal came from. Sorry, DOJ. Sorry to Nancy Pelosi.
00:27:52.020It has nothing to do with insurrections. It actually had to do with changing the rules of the RNC almost, what, eight years ago now at the end out in Cleveland, which, by the way, was the last convention the Republicans have held.
00:28:05.020Well, maybe Ron can pass the apologies to Nancy Pelosi for you, because tomorrow, as I say, he's doing a fundraiser in the Dominion lobbyist office in downtown Washington, D.C.
00:28:18.880And who is one of their chief lobbyists? Nancy Pelosi's former chief of staff.
00:28:22.940It's a very cozy club and it looks like Ron is in it.
00:28:29.140Raheem Kassam, editor in chief of the National Pulse. We've got about two minutes left.
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00:30:46.120We are coming up next. William Conan, President and CEO of the Hydro Space Group.
00:30:49.740We're going to understand what's going on with this sub and the latest. Stay tuned.
00:30:54.220I'm buzzing in my ear about the boring people at your office.
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00:31:01.400All right, folks, there's been a story going on, and the United States Coast Guard will be holding a press conference at 3 p.m. Eastern in just about 20 minutes time following human events here.
00:31:15.780And this is a story that's captivated the nation. I think it's captivated the world.
00:31:19.440Suffice to say, people asking what is going on with the Titanic sub, the Titanic 5.
00:31:26.220We do have new information that is breaking. I mentioned at the top of the show that, unfortunately, it is the worst-case scenario.
00:31:37.640And if you caught last night on TimCast, we discussed this as well, that, unfortunately, is the most likely also the potential worst-case scenario,
00:31:46.240that it does appear to be a catastrophic implosion that led to the destruction of this submarine as it was making its initial descent to the Titanic.
00:31:58.860The landing frame, we're getting, and these are initial reports, but there is an ROV that is a remote-operated vehicle.
00:32:08.640It's essentially a drone that is a research vessel that is down on the sea bottom searching the seafloor.
00:32:14.300They are saying that the initial indications are that the landing frame and rear cover of this submersible have been found on the bottom of the ocean.
00:32:27.120And this, of course, means that the inhabitants of the submersible, unfortunately, died instantly.
00:32:35.780This would have not been the slow of people.
00:32:38.040Well, initially, of course, experts were looking at it as a race against the clock in terms of, did they have enough air?
00:32:54.740Even there was a rear admiral early this morning who came out and said, you know, we have to, of course, remember the fighting human spirit, the fighting spirit to live.
00:33:03.340Well, unfortunately, in a situation like this, a hull breach on a vessel of this very small, admittedly small size, would be catastrophic.
00:34:33.980Okay, and, guys, we're having a little bit of an audio issue, apparently.
00:34:37.620I'm not able to hear – we're going to see what's going on with that.
00:34:43.180I thought we were right, guys, but I guess we're not there.
00:34:45.580So Hydra Space Group, internationally recognized, expert, full-service engineering firm, pressure vessels for human occupancy.
00:34:52.000You know, people need to understand, this is very deep, 13,000 feet.
00:34:57.180This is deeper than U.S. military submarines operate.
00:35:00.280This is deeper than most large mammals, most aquatics, biologics would be found in.
00:35:06.560Some – potentially some whales, some giant squid can swim at depths, theoretically, approaching this, but for only short periods.
00:35:16.780This is not a very forgiving part of the ocean.
00:35:20.900I did spend some time on a submarine when I served in the United States Navy as an intel officer.
00:35:27.420You know, I was not a – I wasn't a submarine guy, but I did – I had some experience, put it that way.
00:35:32.840Probably the easiest way to say that without breaking NDAs.
00:35:35.780But people need to understand that at that depth, it is extremely dark.
00:35:41.880Lights are only able to travel so far.
00:35:44.300That's why the image, the footage that you would see from a typical camera – think of the footage that you've seen of the Titanic, right?
00:35:51.940The footage that you've seen is always very close up.
00:35:55.700That's because the light is only able to travel so far.
00:36:00.000So even though they have a porthole on the thing, you're only going to be able to see a little bit in front of the camera because due to the salinity of the water, the pressure that's down there, the light is just not able to penetrate much further.
00:36:14.920There was also – by the way, Snopes.com had an article out claiming – and this was crazy to me – claiming that Elon Musk's Starlink was somehow to blame.
00:36:27.580They were trying to put this on Elon, blame him, and say that Elon Musk's Starlink was to blame because they lost communication with the submarine.
00:36:35.440When you're on a submarine, when you're that far down, when you're even just a little bit in the ocean, you're not going to be receiving Wi-Fi, internet communications.
00:36:45.740I don't care how good your Starlink is.
00:36:47.280Now, if you are potentially tethered to a pod or a weather balloon, if you're at periscope depth, there are ways, obviously, to receive signals at depth.
00:36:57.060But if this thing wasn't on tether, which we were told it wasn't, if this thing wasn't directly connected, then, no, there would be no way to communicate via Starlink.
00:37:07.480And then so Snopes actually put out their story saying it was true that Starlink was involved.
00:37:13.960It went and got community noted on Twitter, which, of course, is owned by Elon Musk.
00:37:20.040This just shows that for a lot of people, they think this is like the movies.
00:37:23.760They think this is like the Little Mermaid.
00:37:27.540They think this is like, oh, we're just going to go down.
00:38:00.280And people forget just how hard it is to communicate underwater with any vehicle.
00:38:05.240We're so used to satellites, cell phones, radios.
00:38:08.260And it was one of the strangest news we had from the very beginning that somehow the surface ship had lost complete communication with a submersible, both voice, text, and navigation pinger.
00:38:33.480And without those, it just makes everything so much difficult, as we've had in the last three days, trying to find out where is the submersible.
00:38:42.880So with the latest news that we're seeing, of course, the debris field that we're told was found.
00:38:48.040We've got a couple of minutes left before the break, but I do want to hold you over.
00:41:13.420The Coast Guard, in its jurisdictional authority, which is basically the people in charge of the coastal waters, like the Coast Guard, would require the vehicle to be certified.
00:41:25.540And so, in addition, the classification or certification is optional.
00:41:31.620If you're building your own submersible, you don't have to class it.
00:41:36.380But then, Ocean Gate was not making it to sell.
00:41:41.280So, they had the option of not classing the vehicle.
00:41:44.740But then, if they don't operate in the U.S. waters, the Coast Guard would force them to.
00:41:49.620It turns out that since they were operating international waters, they got around both as a loophole.
00:41:57.200And, you know, the question is, how do you control something like that?
00:42:01.020Well, it's an exception to an exception.
00:42:22.900We pay a lot of attention, a lot of self-discipline that's exercised worldwide with this view, just to make sure we keep government at bay over here.
00:42:34.020Of course, there has to be some level of regulation.
00:42:37.600And I suspect we'll be having some discussion on how we do that.
00:43:17.380Going 3,000 feet or 1,000 meters, to put in reference, at 1,000 meters, any vehicle that is deeper than 1,000 requires an export license.
00:43:28.380So, naturally, within manufacturers, it becomes a bit of a de facto line that, you know, you've got a lot of explaining to do if you're going deeper than that.
00:43:39.340So, 1,000 feet is what's considered very deep in the industry.
00:44:10.720The innovative idea to go 4,000 meters for five people, just that in and itself was already extremely challenging.
00:44:21.440Well, that's right, and I can remember that just from my own experience in the Navy, that whenever we were dealing with submersibles or, you know, I happened to be in Naval Station Guam just a couple of years after James Cameron made his trip down to Challenger Deep in the Marietta Trench.
00:44:38.200I mean, that was a single person, submersible, that went down that far.
00:44:41.440There was no idea of bringing multiple people, let alone five.
00:44:45.140Right, and Jim Cameron is, if you remember, the hall was actually quite small, right?
00:44:52.740He practiced to sit in a very crouched position because the smaller the volume is, the stronger the cabin is to go all the way down.
00:45:01.640So as you're getting, I mean, space is a luxury underwater under high pressure.
00:45:06.140So making a very large cabin for five people like that is extremely difficult.
00:45:16.300What do you say, what would you say to the folks that point out and say it's too dangerous, we shouldn't be sending people down there?
00:45:24.980Is it not worth it in terms of exploring the deep sea?
00:45:29.500How would you respond to folks who say that, you know, we shouldn't be down there and shouldn't be exploring this depth?
00:48:02.400It is the spirit of innovation that drives humanity forward, that pushes everything forward.
00:48:09.980There are many ways that we can drive that spirit of exploration.
00:48:14.160And we should never lose sight of it, whether it's pushing the frontiers of the depths of the ocean, pushing the frontiers of space, by the way.
00:48:23.960And no, I'm not going to do the William Shatner line.