Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - June 23, 2023


EPISODE 502: BIDEN WHITE HOUSE WITHHELD CRITICAL INFO ON TITANIC SUB, JAMES CAMERON BLASTS NIGHTMARISH CHARADE


Episode Stats

Length

49 minutes

Words per Minute

182.8745

Word Count

8,992

Sentence Count

637

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

Jack Posobiec is joined by Shane Cashman to discuss the Biden administration's cover-up of the disappearance of the Titan Submersible, and the lack of answers from the National Transportation Safety Board about what happened to the vessel.


Transcript

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00:01:27.180 The Navy picked up on a sound or acoustic signature that was likely or could have been an implosion or an explosion
00:01:34.220 at about the time the Titan Submersible went missing.
00:01:37.260 When we learned of the discovery of the 1023 form that alleged Joe Biden took a robbery from the most trusted,
00:01:44.560 highest paid FBI informant, they were told to stand down.
00:01:47.960 We obtained a July 30th, 2017 WhatsApp message from Hunter Biden to Henry Zhao, where Hunter Biden wrote,
00:01:55.000 quote, I am sitting here with my father and we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled.
00:02:01.320 The real way to go all the way across the southern two thirds from the Atlantic Ocean to the Indian Ocean in Africa
00:02:10.480 to be able to transport and do it cheaper and do it with less, less, how can I say it, less carbon emissions.
00:02:19.700 So even if Biden was going to be able to recreate his map, he would be losing then as a result of there being a third candidate.
00:02:26.780 The question is whether or not we ought to have these chief diversity officers and, Laura, they're making as much as $183,000 per year.
00:02:34.320 Within about an hour, I had the following facts.
00:02:37.600 They were on descent.
00:02:39.440 They were at 2,500 or 3,500 meters, heading for the bottom at 3,800 meters.
00:02:46.760 The comms were lost and navigation was lost.
00:02:50.600 And I said instantly, you can't lose comms and navigation together without an extreme catastrophic event, a high, highly energetic catastrophic event.
00:03:00.580 And the first thing that popped to mind was an implosion.
00:03:03.040 So I felt in my bones what had happened.
00:03:05.780 So this entire week has just felt like a prolonged and nightmarish charade.
00:03:11.520 Prolonged, nightmarish charade.
00:03:17.500 No, we're not talking about the Biden administration in general, but we are talking about the Biden administration's lies to the American people regarding the titan submersible.
00:03:28.800 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:03:32.820 Today is June 23rd, 2023.
00:03:35.120 Anno Domini, we have a huge show today.
00:03:37.280 Shane Cashman is going to be coming to us with all the latest with the NTSB's hearing down in East Palestine.
00:03:44.380 We want to get into exactly what happened in Norfolk Southern.
00:03:47.520 We have not forgotten the people of East Palestine.
00:03:50.020 We have not forgotten the forgotten men and women of this country, as well as just across the border in Western Pennsylvania.
00:03:56.660 We're going to get into all of this.
00:03:58.640 What was on that train?
00:03:59.840 Who made the decision to give the controlled burn?
00:04:03.340 And then we're going to go into a new book all about the CCP's gene hacking, biohacking programs.
00:04:10.140 Folks, if you think COVID-19 was the only thing that they were cooking up in Wuhan, we've got another thing for you.
00:04:19.000 But we want to go down because last night, right before we launched episode two of Thought Crime, that's the show I've been doing with Charlie.
00:04:27.960 We had Andrew Colvette on last night.
00:04:30.060 We had Blake on.
00:04:31.300 And we're doing this show.
00:04:32.440 You know, it's sort of a place for us to, it's Rumble only.
00:04:35.420 And it's a place for us to talk about, you know, sort of all the stories that we don't get to on a regular basis.
00:04:39.420 But right before then, and as we learned after the show yesterday, we had the great deep sea expert on explaining to us that that sub never should have been in those waters.
00:04:50.180 It was not certified.
00:04:51.340 But right before we went to air last night, we were told, and this was something that I had been questioning myself all along.
00:05:04.940 Did the United States Navy hear anything?
00:05:09.160 We have sonar rays that we've had since the Cold War along the ocean floor there.
00:05:14.420 We've got mobile towed arrays.
00:05:16.220 We've got submarines that operate in that area that are looking for Russian subs, that are looking for Chinese activity, whatever it might be up there.
00:05:23.120 They call it the GI-UK gap.
00:05:24.760 This entire area of the North Atlantic is, of course, under surveillance, undersea.
00:05:29.740 So the question is, if you didn't hear anything, well, that led me to believe that there wasn't a catastrophic event.
00:05:35.300 And they may have been alive and they may have potentially been trapped either inside their vehicle, inside the Titanic maybe.
00:05:43.660 And then we get told that the Biden administration knew all along that there had been a catastrophic detection on sonar.
00:05:53.020 They heard it on Sunday, almost immediately after finding out about this.
00:05:58.540 Look, that part of the ocean doesn't typically have deep sea submersibles operating in it.
00:06:03.300 And everybody knows the Titanic is there.
00:06:05.220 It would not be hard to check back on the array to see if you detected an anomaly, okay?
00:06:10.360 And I'm saying that as somebody who's, I've been on a submarine, been in a sonar room.
00:06:15.300 I've done these types of, done this type of work.
00:06:19.480 Let's put it that way.
00:06:20.500 Playing loose and fast with the NDA there, folks.
00:06:23.940 We are going to break through because Human Events has compiled, and the great Libby Emmons, the editor-in-chief, has compiled the entire timeline of what they knew, when they knew it, and what they told us.
00:06:35.200 So make sure that you stay tuned, because we are going to ask the question of why this critical information was withheld from the public.
00:06:43.580 Whose purpose did it serve?
00:06:46.040 Why didn't the administration declassify this information until after the fact?
00:06:51.360 Ladies and gentlemen, stay right here, because we are skeptical, and we are asking questions.
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00:08:18.100 Folks, I need to go through this document because at humanevents.com right now, as of this morning, and Libby Emmons and I, we had a conversation this morning.
00:08:27.740 I was hot.
00:08:28.900 I was coming in hot this morning because I said they've been lying.
00:08:33.880 They've been lying by omission.
00:08:35.980 They've been lying by omission, and here's why.
00:08:39.400 Remember, they were sending out all these messages.
00:08:41.600 They said, oh, there's pinging and tapping and noises that we've heard.
00:08:47.420 They were counting down the hours, and that's what they always do.
00:08:51.200 They always play with numbers.
00:08:54.020 They always use numbers.
00:08:55.460 There's either it's the amount of deaths, and the number keeps going up and up and up and up, or it's the amount of hours of air, and it goes down, down, down, and it drives news cycles.
00:09:09.320 Everybody knows there's only one major story every day.
00:09:14.020 You go to New York Post.
00:09:15.440 You go to Daily Mail.
00:09:16.080 You go wherever you are.
00:09:17.080 You're always going to see one major story.
00:09:18.780 I am reliably informed by my Zoomer intelligence assets.
00:09:24.100 We have clandestine human sources within the Zoomer community who have gone throughout TikTok, and they have reported back to us.
00:09:30.880 Many Zoomers died to give us this information.
00:09:33.120 That TikTok this entire week has been nothing but this mini-sub.
00:09:38.240 That's the only thing they've been talking about.
00:09:40.680 And why?
00:09:41.660 Right?
00:09:41.840 Because it hits you right in the amygdala.
00:09:43.480 It's that idea of we're humans.
00:09:46.120 We care about others.
00:09:48.060 We also have sympathy for people.
00:09:49.980 We have empathy for people in these situations.
00:09:52.500 What would it be like if you were trapped?
00:09:53.960 What would it be like if you were in this situation, and the hours were ticking down, and there was no escape, there was no way out, as we were told?
00:10:03.780 Well, it turns out the entire thing was not true.
00:10:08.100 Because the Biden administration, according to Wall Street Journal, multiple sources now, detected this information originally on Sunday.
00:10:16.460 Withheld that information from the American people.
00:10:18.340 So, if you go to humanevents.com, we've got the entire story.
00:10:22.980 The timeline of what was known as revealed in the press and what was known in official channels are two entirely different things.
00:10:30.460 Within 45 minutes, an hour and 45 minutes of dissent, the sub lost contact conserved for the crew, including a father and his 19-year-old son, filled hearts and minds.
00:10:38.240 Pages were devoted to emerging facts and speculation.
00:10:40.680 It now turns out that the U.S. Navy and Coast Guard knew that the submersible was definitely lost within hours of it losing contact because of the catastrophic incident, which was detected on the sonar array.
00:10:54.720 The Ocean Gate sub left on Sunday.
00:10:58.660 The United States Navy detected implosion shortly after using deep-sea listening equipment.
00:11:04.280 The Navy gave this information to the U.S. Coast Guard.
00:11:06.420 And, of course, this was briefed to the President of the United States.
00:11:09.680 That's Joe Biden.
00:11:10.880 And so, some people have said, well, wait a minute.
00:11:13.180 It's classified information.
00:11:14.420 Should Biden have not told about it?
00:11:15.980 Excuse me.
00:11:17.500 The existence of sonar arrays has like a Wikipedia page.
00:11:20.760 It's been in Tom Clancy novels.
00:11:22.220 Anyone who's seen The Hunt for Red October knows about this stuff.
00:11:25.360 And I guarantee you the Russians and the Chinese and Bill Gates and everyone else know.
00:11:28.940 Okay.
00:11:29.620 Right.
00:11:30.100 The Atlanteans know that we're listening.
00:11:32.280 Okay.
00:11:32.440 This is not exactly some major system that we have.
00:11:35.460 Plus, from a legal perspective, as we have said all week, the President of the United States has the plenary ability to declassify information.
00:11:47.280 The same was true of Trump.
00:11:48.480 The same is true of Biden.
00:11:49.680 When he's the current president, he can declassify whatever he wants, whenever he wants.
00:11:54.760 And so, when they came into the Oval Office and they briefed him, sir, we got a mini sub.
00:11:59.100 It's missing.
00:11:59.780 But you know what?
00:12:01.920 Heard this implosion.
00:12:03.100 Navy heard something catastrophic.
00:12:05.180 What should we say?
00:12:06.740 They said, say we're looking for it, but don't tell anyone about that catastrophic detection.
00:12:12.420 Leave that part.
00:12:13.640 Leave that part silent.
00:12:14.860 And even people like Congressman Dan Crenshaw, another Navy officer, came out and said, why is it that the United States government is blocking this British firm, this British GPC exploration firm that has the Magellan Craft, a vehicle that's able to operate at 6,000 meters.
00:12:32.780 That's 18,000 feet.
00:12:35.220 All right.
00:12:35.640 Three nautical miles almost.
00:12:38.240 Why weren't they over three nautical miles?
00:12:40.200 Why weren't they allowed to go down?
00:12:41.840 Why was it blocked?
00:12:42.940 And he was raising questions.
00:12:44.140 And Newsweek even covered this and said he's raising questions about grave concerns about a disturbing report.
00:12:50.920 Okay.
00:12:52.340 Then we go to Monday.
00:12:54.140 Rear Admiral John Mauger, the Coast Guard, comes out there and he starts giving you the numbers.
00:12:58.800 He starts telling you, we estimate 70 to the full 96 hours available at this time.
00:13:04.000 Two aircraft, the submarine, sonar buoys, sonar buoys.
00:13:08.020 You can just say sonar buoys.
00:13:09.520 It's being launched.
00:13:10.580 The P-8, the P-3.
00:13:11.780 He said the rear admiral said he was taking it personally, working hard, but to bring everyone home safe.
00:13:16.560 And by the way, we don't disparage them.
00:13:18.840 Of course.
00:13:19.880 Hold the search and rescue.
00:13:20.880 You never know.
00:13:21.700 Right?
00:13:21.980 But why withhold the information?
00:13:24.260 Then Tuesday, Rolling Stone breaks a story that banging is being detected by a Canadian aircraft in 30 minute intervals.
00:13:34.440 We all remember the update, the banging, the intervals.
00:13:36.680 Every group chat, every family chat, or my family chat, the women in the office and offices across the country were talking about this.
00:13:46.380 We're wondering what was happening to those men, especially that man and his son.
00:13:49.600 An internal email from Biden's Department of Homeland Security was leaked to Rolling Stone.
00:13:58.580 Now, for people asking why would Homeland Security be involved, that's because in the roll-up to the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, various pre-existing government agencies were rolled into the Department of Homeland Security that existed within other branches or other departments before.
00:14:15.700 So, one of those was Secret Service, another one of those was INS, which later was renamed to ICE, and a third one was the United States Coast Guard.
00:14:26.460 So, while the United States Coast Guard is a branch of the military, it is considered the fifth branch of the military, it does fall under the Department of Homeland Security.
00:14:35.180 So, this is Coast Guard information that was leaked to Rolling Stone.
00:14:38.880 Then, the Coast Guard themselves, another government agency, came out on Wednesday and said, and here it is, P-3 aircraft detected underwater noises in the search area.
00:14:48.920 I've got the tweet.
00:14:50.080 As a result, remote-operated vehicle operations were relocated in an attempt to explore the origin of the noises.
00:14:56.820 So, they actually sent the ROV to check out the noises.
00:15:00.540 They told us about all this and didn't tell us the information about the catastrophic incident that was heard before.
00:15:08.880 This was reiterated by Oceangate, 2 a.m. local time, sonar tapping noises, etc., etc., CNN was everywhere, and then you have the White House's military spokesman, Jack Kirby, comes out.
00:15:23.220 President's watching events closely.
00:15:25.160 The search and rescue operations are coming.
00:15:27.140 Certainly, the president wants the Coast Guard to continue to participate in that.
00:15:31.000 The United States Navy is on standby, should they be needed because they have deep water capabilities that the Coast Guard wouldn't necessarily have.
00:15:38.160 Here we go.
00:15:39.700 All of us, including the president, express our thoughts to the crew on board as well as to no doubt worried family members back on shore.
00:15:46.680 And we're just going to keep looking, keep the search going.
00:15:49.960 They wanted us to know how much they cared.
00:15:51.800 They wanted us to know how much they cared, how much we love.
00:15:55.420 Again, TikTok everywhere, all over TikTok.
00:15:57.940 And we know the White House has an army of paid TikTok influencers.
00:16:02.660 Finally, of course, we know Thursday the debris field was discovered.
00:16:07.520 At that point, the information was released that the United States Navy had detected this all along.
00:16:13.720 So I'm getting hit left and right online about this.
00:16:18.700 Newsweek is coming after me.
00:16:19.800 The same Newsweek, by the way, that was perfectly fine.
00:16:22.240 Perfectly happy to cover Congressman Crenshaw's remarks.
00:16:24.880 But then when I express skepticism in the government response, suddenly I'm spreading misinformation.
00:16:31.160 No, I'm asking questions about the narrative.
00:16:33.600 I'm saying, why did the Biden admin sit on this?
00:16:36.300 Because we know that this information obviously would have been briefed up the chain.
00:16:41.720 And just because it's classified doesn't mean it couldn't have been released.
00:16:45.080 This is the same administration that takes all of their cues from watching the West Wing.
00:16:48.860 This is the same administration that's been stealing Aaron Sorkin lines for how to deal with developments in Ukraine.
00:16:54.320 They always want to appear strong.
00:16:55.920 They always want to appear like they're in charge of things.
00:16:57.600 They always want people to view them as like this, you know, this great, you know, this great leader, American leadership in the world.
00:17:05.780 The same administration that just announced that they are arresting and indicting their top political rival.
00:17:14.300 And the same administration that had some bad news dropped this week, two episodes of bad news.
00:17:20.260 Number one, a massive plea deal taken by the son of the president.
00:17:26.200 And number two, a sweetheart deal, by the way.
00:17:28.280 And number two, the entire Durham hearing where people learned that the Russiagate investigation was completely false and was false from the start.
00:17:39.620 Now, look, I'm not saying that this was orchestrated to, you know, as a cover up for all this, but I am saying that in Washington, D.C., it is a time honored PR tactic.
00:17:52.620 That if you've got bad news, wait for there to be some tragedy, some disaster, and then use that time, use that time phrase to time phrase to dump whatever bad news you have to so that it gets out and that the news cycle is completely muddied.
00:18:11.380 Because I guarantee you, all those people that are talking about this sub, you know what they're not talking about?
00:18:16.740 They're not talking about Hunter Biden.
00:18:18.340 They're not talking about Durham.
00:18:19.780 They're not talking about Russia.
00:18:20.920 They're not even talking about Trump.
00:18:22.720 They're talking about the sub.
00:18:25.100 And folks, that's the issue.
00:18:27.080 Speaking of things they don't want us to talk about, we are going to go now with Shane Cashman when we come back after the break.
00:18:32.700 Because the people of East Palestine will not be forgotten, the people of Western Pennsylvania.
00:18:37.640 The NTSB holding a massive hearing today.
00:18:40.900 Not a lot of people are talking about it.
00:18:42.340 We are going to make sure that we talk about it.
00:18:44.260 So Shane Cashman of TimCast joins us next.
00:18:47.640 Stay tuned right here.
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00:20:20.420 Ladies and gentlemen, the investigative journalist, Shane Cashman of Timcast joins us.
00:20:26.240 One of the guys who has been dogged in his reporting on East Palestine.
00:20:31.360 He was one of the earliest guys there.
00:20:33.120 He's a guy who's been on the ground.
00:20:34.480 And now we have the latest from the NTSB hearing into the quality of not only the air and water, the chain has been tracking,
00:20:43.520 but what actually happened on Norfolk Southern.
00:20:47.800 Shane Cashman joins us here at Human Events.
00:20:49.500 What's up, Shane?
00:20:50.700 Hey, Jack.
00:20:51.260 Thanks for having me on.
00:20:53.080 So what are we learning that's new?
00:20:55.860 Because the last time they told us, they said it was a fouling.
00:20:59.080 It had caught.
00:21:00.140 There were people who were driving too fast and the sensor was going on.
00:21:03.200 What is the latest from today's hearing?
00:21:05.120 Yeah, well, yeah, the hearing's been going on for two days and it's basically been a Mexican standoff of accountability.
00:21:12.880 People kind of pointing a finger at everybody.
00:21:15.180 Day one was everyone talking about what led up to the wheel bearing failing.
00:21:20.580 So we saw a video of the train before the wheel bearing started to burn off.
00:21:25.700 And then the two stops before East Palestine where you could see it glowing on fire.
00:21:31.060 And then the derailment happened.
00:21:32.740 So it passed through.
00:21:34.020 We learned two detectors and the first one went off.
00:21:36.900 And I guess it was not a high enough heat reading for them to do anything.
00:21:40.920 But the second one went off and it didn't give the conductor enough time to stop.
00:21:46.240 So we saw what we saw happen in East Palestine with this terrible derailment and these apocalyptic images that we got.
00:21:53.520 And then, you know, so we learned about first responders yesterday.
00:21:57.660 We learned that the people who showed up there, the first people who showed up there, they didn't even know until the day after that there were toxic chemicals in the train.
00:22:06.380 So that was really distressing.
00:22:08.920 And then today they focused on the wheel bearing.
00:22:11.360 They focused on what wheel bearings are, the detectors, how many there are.
00:22:15.980 And one of the more alarming things that I heard today, it's still going on, I believe, was that Norfolk Southern,
00:22:22.140 they used to have a three minute inspection time per car.
00:22:26.000 They decreased that to 30 seconds per side of each car.
00:22:29.800 So what they're saying now is there's not enough manpower to inspect the cars and there's not enough time.
00:22:34.860 And that might be, as some say, a post-COVID problem because they just don't have employees like they used to.
00:22:41.020 And we're seeing that Norfolk Southern used to praise them, their employees, for inspecting at a very fast pace and would even condemn or, you know, condescend to the inspectors for taking 45 seconds instead of 30 seconds.
00:22:55.280 So all that's really alarming.
00:22:57.140 But I still believe after two days we don't really have any answers or anyone to hold accountable.
00:23:01.740 Well, you know, I remember when we talked about this the first time around, one of the questions that came up was basically the way that we've shifted a lot of our systems that were over, you know, going through this system right now.
00:23:17.080 A process of changing over from human inspectors, as you say, people that are just keeping an eye, you know, kind of we were joking.
00:23:25.500 It's like old Bob, right?
00:23:26.580 You know, old Bob, the engineer on the train.
00:23:28.880 You know what?
00:23:29.560 He's going to be looking forward and back every couple of seconds, every couple of minutes, making sure everything's right.
00:23:35.700 But now we've got longer trains.
00:23:37.460 We've got more reliance on automation.
00:23:39.040 And when one of those things goes wrong, we say, oops, the system went wrong.
00:23:44.920 Oops, there's a problem with the system.
00:23:46.380 What are we going to do?
00:23:47.540 And meanwhile, it's like there's no person to find accountable, again, because it's like, you know, oh, it's the same answer you would get with Twitter, right?
00:23:55.960 Oh, a robot did it.
00:23:57.100 Oh, the algorithm did it, right?
00:23:58.640 Because we have this reliance now on systems that at the same time are only as good as the people who are designing them.
00:24:05.500 They can go wrong, and we've lost that ability.
00:24:08.940 And, of course, it's cheaper, right?
00:24:10.220 It's cheaper to not have to pay people.
00:24:12.600 And it sounds like that's something that's coming up because, if I remember correctly, maybe you would know better, how many people were actually on this train?
00:24:18.940 It wasn't a lot, right?
00:24:20.360 I don't believe there's a lot of people on that train.
00:24:22.220 And they even talked about those people on the train, the conductor and however many are on that train.
00:24:26.300 They're technically the first responders, and they're going through their guidebook and according to them, doing everything they had to do.
00:24:31.940 But, you know, there's only so much time.
00:24:33.940 And it's funny because right before we went live, I was listening to the hearing, and they asked Norfolk Southern what they're going to do now, what they have planned to do.
00:24:43.300 And they're like, well, we're going to add more detectors.
00:24:46.480 And, you know, after we heard everything, they're going to replace it with just more technology, which is concerning.
00:24:53.020 Right. And so this is an issue, right?
00:24:57.000 And we don't, you know, nobody asked us, nobody voted for this.
00:25:00.280 And yet these are issues that are going to affect us.
00:25:03.660 Obviously, trains aren't exactly a new technology in the United States, but suddenly we're moving into this new era of automation.
00:25:12.040 And some might say we're rushing into it.
00:25:14.460 It's a way to cut corners.
00:25:16.220 It's a way to cut costs.
00:25:17.160 But guess what?
00:25:17.860 For the people of East Palestine, the people there, you know, they don't get a chance to cut corners anymore because it's there, the air, the water.
00:25:26.240 Do you have an update, by the way, on the air and water, that quality?
00:25:30.220 Let's get to that in a second.
00:25:31.320 I just want to say one thing about another interesting thing that was made in the hearing is there was a gentleman there who I believe he was a pilot.
00:25:37.000 And he talked about the difference between the airline industry and the railroad industry because the airline, the pilots, they're reliant on themselves.
00:25:44.140 Yes, they have people on the ground, but there's things happening on the plane.
00:25:47.040 They're in charge.
00:25:48.100 Well, a lot of stuff with the train stuff that we're learning out of this hearing, they're waiting to hear back from these detectors, from these people who might be states away.
00:25:55.320 So the time allowed to discern what's going on is kind of really consequential here.
00:26:02.280 So that's something they have to really look at.
00:26:04.280 And you'd think they would have this stuff more thoughtfully planned out considering trains can affect every small village in any big city right now.
00:26:13.280 So in terms of the quality, I still haven't heard anything for a month or two.
00:26:18.460 I've heard that I believe it was the EPA who was overseeing Norfolk Southern and their contractors testing for dioxins, which is what was released when they did the what they call the vent and burn, which is really pretty sterile way of saying we put five shape charges on these tanks and blew them up and cause that chemical explosion where, you know, the everything was a lot of livestock was destroyed and the air quality was bad.
00:26:43.480 So the EPA has said that the dioxin level is not harmful.
00:26:49.060 However, there was a gentleman I spoke to for my story for Tim cast by the name of Stephen Petty, who's one of the first people there after the explosion.
00:26:57.800 And he's been testing.
00:26:58.680 He's pretty concerned about contamination because you'll hear these things with language where the EPA or the state will say the drinking water is fine.
00:27:08.460 The ground is fine. But Petty, who's done like 400, he's been a witness 400 times in different environmental lawsuits.
00:27:16.700 He says this takes time for the chemicals to go down into the drinking water.
00:27:20.720 It's not like you're overnight going to test and have an answer.
00:27:24.060 So but Petty had told me today that I believe information is going to be coming out through all of his testing.
00:27:30.540 And he did a lot. And he was the first person there doing it independently.
00:27:34.500 Also, first person there telling the EPA they should test for dioxins because he knew if you burn vinyl chloride, what happens is you create a conglomerate of these harmful toxins.
00:27:45.100 And people there are not drinking their water.
00:27:48.280 Obviously, they're not planting in their garden.
00:27:50.420 They're not eating their livestock.
00:27:51.480 They can't sell their chickens.
00:27:53.100 They and businesses are closing.
00:27:55.060 So it's really, really terrible.
00:27:57.040 And that to me is just crazy, because, again, I remember this became sort of the the the challenge, right?
00:28:04.380 It was the East Palestine challenge.
00:28:05.960 Will anybody from the EPA actually come and drink the water?
00:28:09.240 Will anybody come?
00:28:10.240 And they brought water from East Palestine and they were saying, or, you know, will you drink it here?
00:28:14.440 Would would Buttigieg?
00:28:15.520 I think they went up to Buttigieg and Benny Johnson was asking him.
00:28:18.000 But it's so valid because the people that are living there in East Palestine, they don't get a choice.
00:28:23.640 They don't get it. They don't suddenly get to move.
00:28:25.100 Nobody's going to come in and say, oh, we're going to pay for you guys to leave.
00:28:28.560 There's they're just told, oh, everything's fine.
00:28:30.640 And don't worry about it.
00:28:32.560 Is that what the people of the and the people of the town right there?
00:28:35.840 They're obviously and rightfully asking questions there.
00:28:39.300 There is no truth in this town.
00:28:41.300 There's no answers for these people.
00:28:43.140 I talked to a lady this morning who I had in my story as well.
00:28:46.440 She owns a flower shop right on the street.
00:28:49.440 Like so, like Main Street can see the train tracks.
00:28:52.080 It goes right through town and the derailment happened just beyond that.
00:28:56.000 So these businesses are suffering.
00:28:57.640 There's a winery right by where the road is still closed down.
00:29:00.880 They just remodeled.
00:29:02.080 They're out of business.
00:29:02.980 They're moving town.
00:29:03.820 They're moving out.
00:29:05.140 The florist who I spoke to today, she's suffering.
00:29:08.020 You know, it was great.
00:29:09.120 You know, people banded together.
00:29:10.340 It was very beautiful to see a lot of locals and people from out of town come together and help her out.
00:29:14.640 But since town has no answers and they don't know what's happening because they're worried for their children, they're worried for their their land.
00:29:22.400 She had Mother's Day, which is supposed to be a rather big day for floral for floral stuff.
00:29:26.700 And she had almost nothing.
00:29:28.260 So I don't know how she's going to survive, even though the governor of Ohio has recently said, I think on June 12th, he's going to offer like a no forgiveness loan or forgiveness loan with no with zero interest.
00:29:40.620 It doesn't really affect these people because they don't know if they can even stay there.
00:29:44.640 You know, I'm talking to the florist when I'm there.
00:29:46.960 She's crying because she thought she'd be able to give this land in East Palestine to her children.
00:29:52.580 And now it seems useless.
00:29:54.300 So, you know, and they have no answers about this because a lot of these people experienced really weird symptoms, whether it was these possible chemical burns in their body that children were having these weird coughs.
00:30:05.340 And no one as of yet seems to have an answer about it.
00:30:08.620 Shane, we're we're coming up on a break.
00:30:11.200 Can you stick around?
00:30:11.980 Can we hold you over for the break?
00:30:13.260 Because people need to hear this.
00:30:14.680 These are the human stories of what's going on.
00:30:18.560 You know, Rush Limbaugh used to have that phrase about the drive by media, you know, go from one story to the next story.
00:30:23.420 Forget about the people.
00:30:24.540 I don't want to forget about the people of East Palestine.
00:30:27.620 Tim Kast and you, Shane Cashman, are not forgetting about these people.
00:30:31.020 Human events will not forget about these people because these are Americans.
00:30:35.980 These are people who are the victims of a tragic situation.
00:30:39.960 We're going to call it a tragic situation.
00:30:42.080 They haven't been given answers.
00:30:43.660 They're not being told what's going to happen.
00:30:45.340 And that land that they work down to the bone, they can't hand it over to the kids.
00:30:48.880 Stay tuned.
00:30:49.140 Come right back.
00:30:49.600 East Palestine.
00:30:50.460 Human events.
00:30:50.960 Okay, we're back.
00:31:02.640 Shane Cashman from Tim Kast is our guest.
00:31:04.660 He's giving us an update on all things East Palestine.
00:31:08.020 And Shane, you know, we were just talking to our break a little bit, but, you know, with my wife, Tanya Tay, having grown up in the Soviet Union, particularly in the East at the time before it gained its independence, that wasn't very far from the events of Chernobyl.
00:31:24.920 And the fact of the matter is that she's always known that story about how the government lied to the people about Chernobyl.
00:31:33.840 They told them to go outside and celebrate the May 1st, right, because May Day is a huge holiday in the Soviet Union.
00:31:40.580 It's still huge in Eastern Europe.
00:31:42.060 They said, go outside.
00:31:43.340 Everything's fine.
00:31:44.640 You know, drink the water.
00:31:45.820 Go out and enjoy the parade.
00:31:47.300 And how many people have come down with disease, how many people came out with children's health issues because the government lied to them.
00:31:56.000 And I'm not saying that's exactly what happened here.
00:31:58.000 But even with basic questions as to what happened, right, we still don't.
00:32:03.740 And let me ask you this.
00:32:04.360 Have we gotten either from this hearing or your own reporting a specific answer on who ordered the controlled burn?
00:32:12.580 And I shouldn't ask compound questions, but I'm going to ask you anyway, because I know you can handle it.
00:32:18.980 Was that the only way to deal with this?
00:32:20.940 Was that really the only way to deal with these chemicals?
00:32:24.060 Shane Cashman.
00:32:24.460 Right.
00:32:25.320 So it seems like there was a mixture of people involved in that controlled burn.
00:32:29.860 You know, they keep calling it vent and burn, which, again, they put five shape charges on these cars
00:32:35.060 and created this apocalyptic plume in this town where the atmosphere was inverted, creating a ceiling of chemicals that trapped in this town.
00:32:43.720 I mean, it's like out of a sci-fi movie.
00:32:46.280 So we still don't know exactly who.
00:32:48.380 And I think maybe, you know, this is just, you know, me saying this, that's by design.
00:32:53.140 You know, maybe it's all these people had to.
00:32:54.960 They say, well, we only had a few minutes to decide.
00:32:58.360 But there were other options that they discussed.
00:33:01.080 There was, I think, a type of foam to spray to stop it.
00:33:03.940 Someone else said they could have buried it.
00:33:07.340 But then in the hearing, I believe it was yesterday, they were saying, well, it might not even have exploded the way they were saying.
00:33:13.520 The pressure might not have been building the way they were saying.
00:33:16.220 The heat might have not been the right temperature for the explosion to even happen.
00:33:19.620 Because they were saying, well, if it let it explode on its own, shrapnel could go everywhere.
00:33:24.180 So it's like the people I spoke to, like the engineer, Stephen Petty, it's of his opinion.
00:33:29.200 And it's the opinion a lot of people in town who've been there every day talking about this, is that they did this controlled burn to get the train tracks up and running.
00:33:37.460 Because those trains were running the next day.
00:33:39.440 You know, people, this is a really high-trafficked railway.
00:33:44.240 Every nine minutes, a train goes through this town.
00:33:46.880 So, you know, you'd imagine the implications of that train, the tracks being gone, and what that would do for the greater country.
00:33:54.380 So, you know, it seems like there is still, there's no consensus on if they even had to blow it up, which is kind of interesting.
00:34:02.380 I don't know if, you know, while we're talking, if they've come to some other conclusion with that.
00:34:05.640 But I think, you know, what I've heard is that we're not even going to have a report from the NTSB for another year.
00:34:10.340 Well, and that's exactly right, because I also remember there were questions of, you know, could you have pulled up potentially other vehicles, trucks, you know, tanker trucks, siphoned off some of this, or at least siphoned off enough of it that you wouldn't have, it wouldn't have pressurized to the point where it would explode.
00:34:27.800 Again, to your point, could you have used foam to neutralize these chemicals so that it wouldn't have gotten this way?
00:34:33.480 But I think you just hit the nail on the head right there, because it sounds like, and it sounds like the people in the town have the most obvious answer.
00:34:40.900 And I'm telling you, this is like, you know, you know, who knows more about the Hudson River, you know, some professor up in the university or one of the local fishermen, right?
00:34:49.960 That it wasn't about that there weren't more options.
00:34:54.180 It was about the economic interests, that they wanted to put the economic interests in Norfolk Southern, the economic interests of the railroad, the economic interest of every company that uses that, because we still use rail and trucks a lot in this country.
00:35:08.440 People assume everything is like air and satellites now.
00:35:11.780 No, it's still, it's still trucks.
00:35:13.860 It's trains.
00:35:14.800 People may move on the 90% of goods move on, on sea by the, in the oceans.
00:35:19.120 So, you know, the world, world still is the way the world is.
00:35:23.540 And it does seem like there is some merit to the fact.
00:35:27.360 And of course, nobody's going to come out and admit that they put economic interests ahead of the interests of the people who live there.
00:35:35.120 Right. Yeah.
00:35:35.840 And I don't want, you know, to see the economic implications either.
00:35:38.780 I want to keep things going.
00:35:39.740 I understand the need to rush it.
00:35:41.680 However, you know, in their need to rush this solution, it seems like they created an even bigger problem.
00:35:47.220 Um, so with the EPA saying that there's a dioxin level that's low enough, that's, it's not harmful.
00:35:53.520 We don't really know that yet.
00:35:55.280 And it should be a little scary to people that Norfolk Southern was in charge of getting the contractors to test, which is why I'm interested to see what, uh, engineer Stephen Petty's, uh, test says.
00:36:05.320 But, um, you know, we, we are, we have a lot, a long way to go before these people have any answers, which is like why I think this town, when I was there a month after it was empty.
00:36:17.000 You know, and I was kind of expecting to see more of a presence of, um, you know, people working there other than the cleanup crew.
00:36:25.340 There's a little EPA office right in town that I had a hard time asking my questions that, you know, they have to like be sent in for some legalese to be sent back to me.
00:36:34.220 And I kind of have to comb through to even make sense of, so to see this happen, um, again, when I'm there, what I'm thinking is, it's a tragedy.
00:36:44.000 We've already forgotten about it.
00:36:45.020 And that was only a month or two after the initial blast.
00:36:47.320 Um, while I'm there, the shooting in Nashville happens, you know, at the, at the church, at the school.
00:36:52.900 And I start to think about how we are, we start, I start to think about, yeah, it was that day I got there was the day that the shooting happened.
00:36:59.560 And so after spending that first day with people who are already reeling from the disaster, I start to see what I started thinking of like this pandemic of incompetence with our country and the lack of bandwidth we have for tragedy, how we've become this like revolving door of forgotten tragedies.
00:37:14.680 So I'm so happy we're getting to talk about this, but there's just a long line of these tragedies in this country and these little towns in particular are, are being destroyed and forgotten.
00:37:25.020 And, uh, in terms of the dioxins, what I was going to say earlier is there's a town called times beach, Missouri.
00:37:31.140 I believe this was in the seventies.
00:37:32.960 I could be wrong with a decade, but they had a dioxin problem and that town eventually was just, uh, eminent domain.
00:37:39.600 The, the, the country just bought it.
00:37:41.380 Town was wiped out.
00:37:42.520 That was it.
00:37:43.020 So if, you know, if Steven Petty and his team's test for dioxin has come back in a certain level and that might force the EPA to reevaluate their tests with Norfolk Southern, I am worried of the, uh, what, you know, what's going to happen with this town, whether, you know, if you become what they call a brown site, um, where they kind of use eminent domain and shut down the whole town.
00:38:04.220 And then it's like, where do those people go?
00:38:06.080 It's not a wealthy area.
00:38:07.720 It's a very blue collar town with people who didn't, don't have a lot of money.
00:38:11.220 And, uh, you know, I think Norfolk Southern gave them a thousand dollars, you know, within that first week and with the way groceries are, with the way gases, everything that thousand dollars didn't really do much.
00:38:22.440 Look, this is the perfect example of what's going on throughout the Midwest.
00:38:26.400 What's going through on throughout the rust belt.
00:38:28.660 You see it happening in places in the South where this is fly over America.
00:38:33.100 This is the part of America that, you know, it's not being made in movies unless by the way, it's like an Aaron Brockovich style movie or, um, a movie about a disaster or a horror movie for some, this goes back, I guess, to John Carpenter and Halloween.
00:38:47.100 The only time you ever actually see the Midwest in film, it's predominantly, and then of course, Wes Craven with Scream, um, and even, uh, Nightmare on Elm Street, that it's, it's always like some horror movie.
00:38:58.860 Like there's something going wrong.
00:39:00.080 There's something wrong with the people that live in the center.
00:39:02.960 There's something wrong with the people that don't want to live on the coast that don't want to live in the east.
00:39:07.220 And I say that, by the way, as a guy who grew up in the Philadelphia area, I'm not a Midwesterner, I'm not a Southerner, but I look at people that I've, I've met from that area.
00:39:16.420 Um, there's people I serve with in the military who've lived near here and it's, it's, it's definitely something that I think has given rise to populist candidates like Donald Trump, like RFK Jr.
00:39:27.880 because they're tapping into the anger of people who are asking, why are we forgotten?
00:39:33.260 Why are we constantly dumped on not only by, you know, mainstream media, these narratives, but also in this case, literally toxic chemicals and the U S government, Shane Cashman, Timcast.com.
00:39:43.640 Tell people where they can go other, I mean, obviously I said, Timcast.com, but, uh, where they can go to follow you and get all the coordinates.
00:39:49.560 Yeah.
00:39:49.740 Thank you.
00:39:50.300 So I'm Shane Cashman at Twitter, Instagram, and find us at Timcast news, Timcast.com.
00:39:55.740 We've got a lot of great reporters and, um, I also have a new book out, uh, about, uh, the Confederate gold in Washington, Georgia that I looked for.
00:40:02.920 And that's at ghost of the civil war.com.
00:40:06.020 That story.
00:40:07.140 It's, it's so cool.
00:40:08.340 It's just one of those great American, you know, you know, it's, you know, is it a tall tale?
00:40:13.640 Is it Paul Bunyan?
00:40:14.720 Is it real?
00:40:15.460 What happened to the Confederate gold?
00:40:18.020 One of those things that it's just amazing.
00:40:20.340 Great reporting.
00:40:20.980 Great work is always Shane.
00:40:22.300 God bless you.
00:40:22.980 Look, folks.
00:40:25.740 I love the idea of this and we're going to continue to do more of it here at human events.
00:40:29.820 We're not just going to let these stories go.
00:40:31.780 Okay.
00:40:32.240 He mentioned the Nashville shooting.
00:40:33.680 It's been 88 days.
00:40:35.460 Audrey Hale has been burning in hell for 88 days.
00:40:37.660 We still don't have the train of Festo, the FBI, the local police, everybody's keeping that things under wraps.
00:40:43.260 88 days since that happened in Nashville.
00:40:46.180 We're not letting go.
00:40:46.920 Stay tuned.
00:40:47.680 China gene hacking.
00:40:48.780 Show me what I'm next.
00:40:49.300 Okay, we're back.
00:40:53.480 Jack Posobiec here.
00:40:54.480 I wanted to bring on our next guest, Brandon Weikert, who has a new book out called Biohacked, China's Race to Control Life Itself.
00:41:03.820 Folks, you've got to read this book because when we talked about CCP, the Wuhan lab, when we launched War Room Pandemic with Steve Bannon, I was guest numero uno.
00:41:12.780 We said they're cooking up something in that lab, and it ain't good, and we found out what that was, and we'll look at the effect that it had on our country.
00:41:20.620 I said to President Trump, President Trump, do not forget China.
00:41:25.020 Do not forget that it's because of China that all of these things happened.
00:41:29.080 Well, Brandon Weikert is here with this new book to explain what the CCP is up to next.
00:41:35.520 Brandon, thank you for joining us.
00:41:37.240 Thank you for having me.
00:41:37.840 It's a pleasure to be here.
00:41:39.900 So why did you set out to write a book like this?
00:41:41.960 Why did you take this out of all topics?
00:41:44.420 Well, I have a background in national security, and China was always part of my portfolio that I was always interested in.
00:41:52.700 And specifically, I was covering at American Greatness beginning in 2017.
00:41:57.520 I was covering biotech in China because I was very disturbed by what was going on, and this was years before COVID ever came out.
00:42:04.500 And then COVID hit, and I do a lot of consulting with the Department of Defense.
00:42:08.820 I generally talk about geotechnology, which is basically high-tech, how it impacts national security.
00:42:15.780 One of the things I talk about was biotech.
00:42:18.040 As COVID is breaking out, I'm hearing phrases being talked about by my friends in the military, like biological 9-11.
00:42:26.460 And my wife actually is a geneticist.
00:42:30.220 She went to Yale for a PhD, and she worked at NIH for a period of time for Dr. Collins as well as Dr. Fauci.
00:42:37.740 And I remember when this disease was coming out, and I was telling her, I said, Ashley, I said, I'm hearing biological 9-11.
00:42:44.240 And she said, well, this sounds a lot like gain-of-function testing that we were funding at University of North Carolina.
00:42:50.740 And that was all in early 2020.
00:42:53.100 That sort of started me on this pathway of investigating and pulling on my sources.
00:42:57.740 And it's a really disturbing sort of back trail that I went on.
00:43:04.740 So on some of these cases, and I'm looking through the book, and you've got the cloning experiments, you've got the gene splicing, you've got the editing, the gain-of-function research, the fact that Fauci, Collins, others, deeply involved.
00:43:19.260 There was one, though, that I've got to ask you about, and this is this, I want to get the phrase right, specific genetic attack vectors.
00:43:28.760 What are specific genetic attacks?
00:43:31.680 Because it sounds to me like you're talking about potentially a bioweapon.
00:43:35.680 Yeah, it's exactly what it is.
00:43:37.040 So we in America view bioweapons pretty specifically, things like, you know, an actual weapon.
00:43:44.080 I think nerve gas or sarin, smallpox weaponized.
00:43:49.380 That's pretty obvious, and that's how we view it.
00:43:51.800 Nicholas Cage and Sean Connery going back to Alcatraz.
00:43:55.860 Right, exactly.
00:43:56.760 That's pretty obvious.
00:43:58.040 But the Chinese, as you know, with your background, they have a military-civil fusion outlook.
00:44:03.260 So they don't just look at traditional bioweapons as an attack vector.
00:44:07.780 They look at civilian biotech research, specifically using CRISPR-Cas9, which is the gene editing tool that we created and then shared with China to develop vaccines, mRNA vaccines.
00:44:20.420 The Chinese are using that to basically take all of our genetic information, the genetic information of their people.
00:44:27.920 They put it into the Beijing Genomics Institute's gene bank, which is the largest gene database in the world.
00:44:34.340 They're using artificial intelligence to then correlate all that information.
00:44:38.540 And they're then identifying groups of people and individuals that they don't like or that they have a problem with, think the Muslim Turkic Uyghurs or individuals they may dislike in America.
00:44:50.020 And they're tailoring these bioweapons to specifically attack the genetics of a group of people or individuals so that they can't be blamed when the people start dying.
00:45:02.660 And that's how they're going to go about wiping out all of the undesirables.
00:45:06.660 And, of course, if you're not Han Chinese and a good communist, you're undesirable to the leadership of China.
00:45:12.040 Is it possible, and I've heard this theory bandied about not just even with the CCP, but is it possible then to create the type of weapon using someone's genetic information that could potentially only affect one person with a specific DNA?
00:45:29.980 Do we have that technology?
00:45:32.160 That's what they're working toward, and they're very close to getting it.
00:45:35.380 In fact, they might already have it because of the funding and the resources and the commitment to the specific ethnic attack capability that they've been working on.
00:45:44.600 And, of course, our industry and our investors and our government scientists, in some cases, are unwittingly empowering this program, thinking the Chinese are using this just to create cures faster.
00:45:57.580 In fact, the Chinese are folding that into their bioweapons capability to use against us.
00:46:02.660 But it is – if they don't have it already in some rudimentary form, they're very close to getting it.
00:46:07.980 And God help us.
00:46:09.680 I remember there was a theory – the reason I'm bringing it up, I remember there was a theory that right before the Ukraine war kicked off, when Putin was meeting with some Western leaders like Macron, and he had this really long table that he was sitting across from.
00:46:23.880 And I remember people brought this up as a potential thing.
00:46:29.040 And it's, you know, one of those internet things.
00:46:30.340 But it was, well, maybe he's worried that they've given Macron one of these bio, you know, weapons to use on him to make him sick.
00:46:38.600 And – but then – and I said, well, that sounds kind of silly.
00:46:40.560 But then I remember that there was a story that came out that Macron refused to be tested for COVID-19 when he visited Moscow and visited the Kremlin.
00:46:51.520 And the specific response he gave was that he didn't want them to get a DNA screen on him.
00:46:56.580 And I said, that's an oddly specific thing to say.
00:46:59.840 And then out comes your book directly targeting this and saying, look, not only as a super weapon, right, which certainly there are implications here, but potentially as a direct – if you want someone to get sick, not even necessarily take someone out.
00:47:14.200 If you just want to neutralize them for a while, you could potentially design and think of that, the implications for a security agency, the Chinese Ministry of Special Security, State Security, and able to use.
00:47:23.760 Because the book is Biohacked, China's Race to Control Life.
00:47:27.960 Brandon Weikert, where can people get the book?
00:47:29.680 Thanks for having me.
00:47:30.800 You can get it anywhere books are sold online or, you know, in your local Barnes & Noble, online at Amazon, anywhere.
00:47:37.460 And my Twitter is also at WeTheBrandon.
00:47:42.620 WeTheBrandon.
00:47:43.600 This is a book that everybody needs to pick up because we have to understand the future of warfare.
00:47:50.480 Yes, it is on the macro level.
00:47:51.960 Yes, we are going to see wars like we're seeing in Ukraine right now, but also the future of warfare is small.
00:47:57.860 The future of warfare is on the pieces of glass that you hold in your hand.
00:48:02.260 And the future of warfare will take place and potentially already has begun to take place on the genetic and microscopic level.
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