Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 510： UKRAINE POWER PLANT ATTACK： HOAX OR WW3？ DELEGATE DRAMA, AND AN EL SALVADOR SOLUTION FOR FRANCE

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00:01:27.480 In the history of the White House, has cocaine ever been discovered before by the Secret Service

00:01:33.520 and made public.

00:01:34.540 It's not so much as, can I get Joe Biden to win Idaho?

00:01:38.100 It's, can I beat a Democratic in the primary for Idaho?

00:01:42.680 In other words, this is Gavin Newsom running for the Democratic primary for president.

00:01:47.120 I've watched California, Southern California, devolve into a third world country.

00:01:51.500 This judge is purporting to do is to micromanage, really, the day-to-day interactions between,

00:01:56.900 essentially, the entire executive branch and the leading social media companies.

00:02:00.900 The warmongers, globalists, and deep-staters are absolutely livid that I refuse to bend

00:02:06.680 the knee to their next endless war in Ukraine.

00:02:10.700 I want peace.

00:02:12.080 They want money and they want conflict.

00:02:14.300 Ukraine and Russia have accused the other of planning attacks that could set off nuclear

00:02:18.440 disaster.

00:02:19.360 Kiev warned again that Russia is threatening to attack Europe's biggest nuclear power plant.

00:02:24.400 Moscow has accused Ukraine of doing the same.

00:02:26.420 In this case, President Zelensky is making a very specific accusation that

00:02:30.040 this is a false flag operation.

00:02:33.000 Look, if Trump wins, it would be the end of democracy in the United States.

00:02:37.660 It would be the end of Ukraine. 0.66

00:02:40.140 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events with Jack Posobiec.

00:02:46.140 Today is the 5th of July, the day after the 4th of July.

00:02:51.180 Happy birthday, America.

00:02:53.940 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard.

00:02:55.700 This is Human Events.

00:02:59.540 2023, Anno Domini.

00:03:00.940 Folks, we have to look at what's going on across the world, but right now, immediately,

00:03:05.320 I need to address the situation at the Zephyrus nuclear power plant.

00:03:10.120 I've been speaking out against this, about what's been happening, and explaining what was

00:03:15.180 going to come for weeks now, here on Human Events, and also in my multiple media appearances.

00:03:21.380 We're going to have Rich Barris on later.

00:03:23.300 We're going to have Darren Beattie up after him, but this comes first.

00:03:28.300 The president of Ukraine, Vladimir Zelensky, came out yesterday.

00:03:32.120 He didn't congratulate the United States on 247 years of American independence.

00:03:38.960 He came out with a warning.

00:03:40.640 He said that Russia was mining the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant, the largest nuclear power

00:03:48.000 plant in all of Europe, one of Ukraine's four nuclear power plants, but the only nuclear

00:03:56.300 power plant that Russia controls.

00:03:58.820 Why would Russia mine their own nuclear power plant, you ask?

00:04:05.420 It's very strange.

00:04:06.820 Well, there's just a little problem with that, because no one's actually been able to see

00:04:10.940 any information about these mines that Zelensky claims that there is intel, intel, that have

00:04:20.080 been placed at the nuclear power plant.

00:04:22.520 In fact, the head of the IAEA mission to Ukraine is now coming out publicly and saying they don't

00:04:33.360 see any evidence of mining at the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant.

00:04:38.020 He has no idea what they're talking about.

00:04:40.680 I'll tell you what's going on.

00:04:41.980 What's going on is that yesterday is the one month mark of the Ukrainian counteroffensive.

00:04:49.640 That was a complete failure.

00:04:52.540 They failed to take back meaningful territory.

00:04:56.000 They didn't even burst through Russia's minimal first defense lines.

00:05:02.020 They didn't even make it through the initial defenses.

00:05:04.580 They said they were going to split the Russian held territory in half.

00:05:10.480 They said they were going to go down all the way to Mariupol.

00:05:12.860 They were going to break the land bridge.

00:05:14.120 They were going to be at the Sea of Azov by the 4th of July.

00:05:18.960 Instead, they called it off.

00:05:21.100 They said it was an operational pause.

00:05:23.260 But the NATO meeting that is coming up next week is coming very close.

00:05:29.340 And the United States and the rest of Europe is going to go to Ukraine and say, do you have

00:05:35.120 any territorial gains?

00:05:37.160 Do you have any evidence that you have an ability to push back Russia and this territory 0.99

00:05:44.000 that they've taken?

00:05:44.960 As they keep claiming, they say they're going to take them out to the Sea of Azov.

00:05:48.580 They're going to take back Crimea. 0.90

00:05:50.180 But unfortunately, reality is reality.

00:05:53.680 The fundamentals have not changed.

00:05:56.380 And the fact of the matter is, we now have the information that there was a blown peace

00:06:02.940 deal just a few weeks in, one month in, March of 2022, there would have been a peace

00:06:09.780 deal.

00:06:10.460 But the West blew it up.

00:06:12.980 So I'll say this to Vladimir Zelensky.

00:06:17.460 Find peace for your people.

00:06:20.340 End this war.

00:06:22.360 Stop having to send Ukrainians home in body bags.

00:06:26.380 Boys, men, women and children caught up in this.

00:06:32.880 Stop this war.

00:06:34.740 Stop it now and stand up for yourself and for your countrymen.

00:06:40.340 This is how you can become a true leader to go down throughout the ages as the man who saved

00:06:51.340 Ukraine.

00:06:52.080 Ladies and gentlemen, coming up, we have Richard Barrist.

00:06:55.700 He's got huge news for us.

00:06:57.500 Stay tuned.

00:06:58.100 And then Darren Beatty is up with a special announcement.

00:06:59.980 Human Events continues.

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00:07:10.140 All right, Jack Posobiec.

00:07:11.580 Here we are back on Human Events live with Jack Posobiec.

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00:08:50.960 I want to go now to our guest, Richard Barris.

00:08:54.720 So, Rich, man, you have been blowing it up all over social media.

00:09:00.480 My phone's blowing up.

00:09:01.920 Your phone's blowing up.

00:09:03.780 You came on here about a week ago now, and we were talking about the situation regarding

00:09:09.440 the apportionment of delegates for the 2024 election.

00:09:14.220 And in fact, prior to that, there had been some people saying, oh, Rich has this reporting

00:09:18.740 that he's talking about, they're changing the system, California, there's some other

00:09:22.700 states you were looking at as well, but specifically California, they said it won't be changing.

00:09:27.560 Rich Barris is fake news.

00:09:30.020 And yet now there's an email that's going out saying that they are changing the way that

00:09:35.020 California portions delegates.

00:09:37.780 So I don't know who to believe.

00:09:40.400 I don't know who to trust.

00:09:41.740 So the way we're going to do it is, Rich, you tell our audience the situation as the

00:09:48.040 people's pundit sees it.

00:09:50.480 First, there's so much to unpack here, Jack, and I hope you guys had a great Independence

00:09:54.400 Day.

00:09:54.820 I did.

00:09:55.600 There's so much to unpack.

00:09:56.540 Let's just start with the fact, brother, that every single cycle, there are rule changes.

00:10:02.800 Most of the time, they're not big.

00:10:04.700 When there are state versus RNC or state versus DNC fights, they usually make big news.

00:10:11.320 So anyone who is immediately having this knee-jerk reaction to me talking about this stuff, I feel

00:10:16.880 at this point, I must have had something to hide because, of course, that happens.

00:10:21.900 In the case of California specifically, I see that the leaders, the party leaders in

00:10:28.820 California want to blame the Democratic governor for this.

00:10:31.880 The leader of the party in California has been touting the moving of the California primary

00:10:37.420 to earlier on the calendar and wanted it to happen.

00:10:41.520 So it's dishonest, Jack.

00:10:43.540 I mean, that's the bottom line.

00:10:44.920 But when you move from after March 15th to before March 15th, you do have to make sure

00:10:52.700 that your rules abide by the RNC's rules.

00:10:55.100 Otherwise, you'll be penalized delegates.

00:10:56.700 It happened with us in Florida.

00:10:58.100 In 08, we fought them on it.

00:11:00.020 In 12, we fought them on it.

00:11:01.340 They did penalize Florida in 12.

00:11:03.740 And then in 16, they blinked because Florida basically just said, and this is important for

00:11:08.080 everybody to understand, we're a huge state.

00:11:10.420 We're very important to the election.

00:11:12.080 You need us.

00:11:12.760 You've already tagged us twice when we don't care.

00:11:16.100 You know, you do it.

00:11:16.840 You tell Floridians how unimportant they are.

00:11:19.280 And so it's important to understand that states end up doing what they want anyway.

00:11:24.020 And in a similar situation with Missouri, they had to move their primary up to March 12th

00:11:28.820 or they wanted to.

00:11:29.980 It wasn't they had to, but it then triggered that March 15th rule.

00:11:34.300 So they went to a hybrid system.

00:11:36.620 South Carolina is on February 24th.

00:11:39.340 What the confusion is, Jack, is this idea of what is proportional versus what is winner

00:11:44.320 take all.

00:11:45.280 And what the things that I'm seeing some of these leaders in California say are simply

00:11:48.720 not true.

00:11:50.120 That's the bottom line.

00:11:51.700 Proportional under RNC rules does not mean proportionality like Iowa.

00:11:56.360 It doesn't have to mean that.

00:11:57.720 Like Nevada, they actually states have quite a bit of leeway or parties have quite a bit

00:12:02.120 of leeway on how they can do their hybrid system.

00:12:04.720 And in many cases, there's a split.

00:12:06.920 Maybe the at-large delegates are awarded on a two to one where, I mean, the district delegates

00:12:12.440 are awarded two for the leader, one for the second place.

00:12:15.360 But most of them on March 5th have what is called a winner take most majority, winner take

00:12:21.840 most provision.

00:12:23.200 And if you set minimum thresholds for delegates to be able to qualify for delegates, you must

00:12:27.200 hit 15 or 20 percent, and you have majority thresholds for taking all of those delegates

00:12:33.160 in a specific district, then you can do that.

00:12:37.500 There's nothing wrong with that as long as you meet on March 12th and amend your bylaws,

00:12:41.560 which they didn't address this on March 12th.

00:12:45.540 As of now, the only state that is proportional, like an Iowa kind of proportional system, is

00:12:51.680 Alaska, or one that's expected to be.

00:12:53.500 That's the only Super Tuesday state that is.

00:12:56.760 Texas, also 162 delegates, massive state.

00:13:00.720 They have winner take most provisions, even though they have a little funny way that they

00:13:04.500 allocate that at large that they think feels proportionality.

00:13:08.580 But the winner take most hybrid, Jack, is to recognize when a candidate has dominant support

00:13:14.540 and to reflect the will of the voters.

00:13:17.060 When a candidate thumps you 55 to 20, you shouldn't get half as many delegates as they do.

00:13:22.940 And that's the way most, obviously, voters would believe that.

00:13:27.660 So to put, to reconceptualize this for the audience, this was a state where it used to

00:13:33.260 be winner take all.

00:13:34.600 Winner take all, we all understand, is this the first past the post.

00:13:38.640 Oh, excuse me, winner take most.

00:13:40.240 So it's, in a pure winner take all, it would be, let's say if you got, and you and I were

00:13:45.420 just discussing this regarding the Iowa 2016 results the last time you were on, how we were

00:13:51.380 saying, yes, technically Ted Cruz won the prior, or the caucus, but actually the way the delegates

00:13:57.460 are apportioned is that everyone received a number of delegates out of that top.

00:14:02.780 And it really was a three-way split.

00:14:04.660 Well, in a winner take all or win a take most situation, you wouldn't see that.

00:14:08.980 You would see the winner, even if they were 34%, 36%, I'm saying in a absolute winner take

00:14:15.520 all, you would get 100% of delegates.

00:14:18.320 Now, in a winner take most, maybe you get 80%, 90%, et cetera.

00:14:22.220 But what you're saying is that this, that California, because they're moving up the

00:14:28.180 date of the California primary, the way that they apportion the delegates is different.

00:14:33.000 And what does this mean?

00:14:34.860 This means that that state will come ahead of many of the other winner take all states

00:14:40.840 that are coming up.

00:14:42.000 And that means that it looks like, because Donald Trump, as you've been reporting and

00:14:46.420 others have now reported after you, I should point out, that it looks as though he is the

00:14:52.440 runaway frontrunner, as Steve Cortez mentioned the other day on Twitter Spaces, which was picked

00:14:58.000 up on Newsweek.

00:14:58.620 So he's the runaway frontrunner, but even if he wins by double digits, that it's possible

00:15:05.560 the number two could get a similar number of delegates because of these new rules, because

00:15:11.680 of this change.

00:15:12.280 Is that right?

00:15:13.740 It is.

00:15:14.360 And let me just try to explain that really quick.

00:15:16.520 So the way the at-large is, according to the emails that were published and put up and

00:15:20.320 what we're seeing now from the rules change, the at-large, meaning statewide delegates look

00:15:26.360 like they would be proportionally allocated based on what are called rounding rules.

00:15:31.120 It's all very boring and complicated, but it would be much more like Iowa, but they would

00:15:35.320 still have the district delegates, and instead of them being a winner-take-all provision,

00:15:39.800 which there was, they would be split, basically.

00:15:42.800 So let's say Donald Trump gets 55% in that district, Ron DeSantis gets 18% or 21%, let's

00:15:49.740 be fair here.

00:15:51.180 He's still going to get half the delegates Trump gets, two to one.

00:15:55.080 And what's the thinking behind that?

00:15:56.580 This was published in the LA Times and other local media, so everyone pretending like they

00:16:01.720 haven't been talking about this for almost a year is just full of it.

00:16:05.800 This is the deal.

00:16:06.560 They think that DeSantis would do better in moderate, even left-leaning districts.

00:16:11.520 Why does that matter?

00:16:12.740 Urban population centers have higher populations, even though they're less Republicans.

00:16:17.600 There are higher population centers and their districts are more closely, you know, they're

00:16:23.760 closely aligned within a small geographic area.

00:16:26.300 When you're looking at more of the rural areas, like Kevin McCarthy's area is suburban

00:16:30.860 and rural, and Bakersfield, where there are many more Republicans than, say, the Bay Area,

00:16:35.920 you're still only fighting over three delegates.

00:16:38.160 So if Trump wins it, he would get two.

00:16:40.080 The second place would get one.

00:16:42.200 However, if the loser, the second place loser, wins the liberal urban areas where there are

00:16:49.020 concentrations of districts, they can actually do disproportionate damage to the delegate count.

00:16:54.960 So this was an article, I think, in the LA Times, like three months ago.

00:16:58.860 This has been something people know and understand.

00:17:02.200 Now, that being said, if you look at the PPIC polls, the Emerson polls, there is a flaw on

00:17:07.440 that if you're a pro-DeSantis person, and the flaw is Trump is ahead in all of these areas

00:17:11.700 anyway.

00:17:12.580 But if it did turn to more of a traditional, Jack, you know, the moderate, non-MAGA candidate

00:17:20.860 gets the urban districts, and the MAGA conservative candidate gets the suburban and rural enclaves,

00:17:28.120 that's what would happen.

00:17:29.540 It would be a very disproportionate allocation.

00:17:33.060 So what you're looking at now is an allocation, put it this way, and in just one minute before

00:17:37.860 break, we're going to hold you over. 0.99

00:17:39.660 Would this rule change, given the current numbers, would this rule change help DeSantis

00:17:44.700 or not?

00:17:46.120 Absolutely.

00:17:47.080 Without a doubt.

00:17:48.160 Not even a question.

00:17:49.840 Trump is over that 50% threshold right now in polling.

00:17:53.640 If he hit it statewide, that's a wrap.

00:17:56.340 All of the other rules don't apply because the winner-take-all provision kicks in.

00:18:01.900 You know, New Jersey, Florida are true winner-take-alls.

00:18:04.720 You could be a hybrid like South Carolina and still qualify for proportional allocation.

00:18:10.020 So there's no such term in the rules that we use or the green paper uses like a hybrid

00:18:16.060 or a winner-take-most.

00:18:18.120 That's just something, that's the way we refer to it.

00:18:20.900 It's rule 2-2.

00:18:22.240 You know, even proportional states are allowed to set winner-take-all measures if they use

00:18:30.340 the majority threshold.

00:18:32.080 So that's what, again, I mean, I'm looking at the calendar right now.

00:18:35.460 Tennessee, Oklahoma, even North Carolina, which is a blend.

00:18:38.780 Their at-large is allocated a little bit differently.

00:18:42.140 Massachusetts, Maine, Arkansas, Alabama.

00:18:43.600 Rich, let me hold you right there real quick.

00:18:45.240 If you can put a quick pin on it.

00:18:47.140 We've got going straight to a break.

00:18:49.100 Don't stop.

00:18:50.100 I love the energy.

00:18:51.300 You must stay here, folks.

00:18:53.100 Human Events will return in just a few seconds.

00:18:56.620 Richard Barris breaking it all down for us after the break.

00:19:01.100 Do not go anywhere.

00:19:02.520 When I'm working long hours, I'm always listening.

00:19:05.160 All right.

00:19:05.640 Jack Posobiec back.

00:19:06.760 Human Events Live.

00:19:07.900 We're here with Richard Barris.

00:19:10.180 Now, Rich, the last time we just left, I want to go right back to you.

00:19:13.840 You continue to be telling us about the various states, the way the apportionment works, and

00:19:18.120 how essentially these rule changes, and to your point, to your credit, you've said that

00:19:22.460 rule changes do occur during every year, every contested year, and it's not like there's

00:19:28.020 some huge conspiracy behind rule changes, but the point is that we're trying to get to the bottom of what effect these rule changes will have on the primary, which, of course, leads up to the convention, the convention floor there in Milwaukee.

00:19:45.420 Because I've already heard, and I've already seen across Twitter and out there in the information battle space, people are already talking about contested convention.

00:19:54.360 I've already seen that balloon has been launched that's being floated right now, this idea of a contested convention.

00:20:02.640 And actually, you know what, Rich, let's set the table for people, because what would be the conditions to set up a contested convention?

00:20:12.960 And what does that actually mean?

00:20:15.980 So there are 2,467 delegates that are up for grabs.

00:20:21.780 Out of that, a nominee must get 1,234, which is just over a majority, if they are to clinch the nomination.

00:20:30.960 It doesn't matter how dominant one is over another.

00:20:33.640 If they don't reach that number, then it will be a contested convention.

00:20:37.380 And delegates in almost all of these states, Jack, are bound to the results of the caucuses and the primaries until a certain vote.

00:20:44.900 And then they're unbound, and they can do whatever they want.

00:20:48.820 So this rule change, if California does move to a truly proportional, and by the way, I misspoke before, Alaska's not the only one on Super Tuesday.

00:20:57.980 Virginia also is done proportionately, although they have different rounding rules.

00:21:02.160 They have a different equation for the rounding rules.

00:21:04.080 If they did this, it would do something – we just call it dilute the delegate count.

00:21:10.640 So it would make sure that nobody – it's getting a lot closer to a Democratic nomination contest.

00:21:17.060 Let me just put it that way.

00:21:18.340 It is, where Democrats have superdelegates, and all their contests are proportional, truly proportional.

00:21:24.880 Very few exceptions with winner take most.

00:21:27.860 It is a whole lot of Iowa's folks, right?

00:21:31.080 And then the superdelegates decide who the nominee is if nobody clinches that.

00:21:36.620 Most of the time, we have seen them clinch that number because the superdelegates are pledged.

00:21:41.860 They'll say, I'm already with Hillary Clinton.

00:21:43.540 I'm already with Barack Obama.

00:21:45.500 But if you have these big states, California's 169 delegates.

00:21:49.860 Texas is behind them, 162.

00:21:51.860 If all of them were to dilute the process, Republicans don't have enough delegates to meet that with proportionality like that.

00:21:59.080 It's just not the same system as Democrats.

00:22:02.000 So there would be fewer and fewer winner-take-all states.

00:22:05.460 There are some big ones.

00:22:07.000 New York has winner-take-most provisions.

00:22:10.260 New Jersey is just winner-take-all.

00:22:11.740 It doesn't matter how much of the vote you get.

00:22:13.500 So is Florida.

00:22:14.420 But still, again, it's a lot of delegates, Jack.

00:22:17.620 It would slow down.

00:22:18.300 Let's go back to it.

00:22:19.660 If you don't clinch, if you don't clinch, any nominee, whether it's Zasanis, whether it's Trump, whether it's Mickey Mouse, for the purposes of this conversation.

00:22:28.940 I don't know if Mickey is running.

00:22:30.200 Probably not right now, though I would imagine he's not a big fan of Zasanis.

00:22:32.960 He gets votes every year.

00:22:34.620 He does.

00:22:35.260 He does.

00:22:35.580 That's where the joke comes from.

00:22:36.440 Hulk Hogan, too.

00:22:37.140 Let's get the Hulkster in there. 1.00

00:22:38.240 Come on, Terry.

00:22:38.700 That if they don't clinch and it does become essentially a contested convention, or if you have delegates as, and I'm going to have to say it, as Ted Cruz famously said at the RNC of Cleveland, Ohio, which I was at.

00:23:00.040 I was in the room when this happened.

00:23:01.100 He said, vote your conscience.

00:23:02.420 So if they go in as unpledged delegates, they form up with other delegates.

00:23:08.860 It goes to an open convention.

00:23:11.180 What happens there?

00:23:12.600 Then they vote how they want to vote.

00:23:15.940 And we have to be honest.

00:23:18.080 What that means is that, especially in a state like California, I mean, there's a lot of people who, you know, openly say their true feelings about the MAGA movement, but they are not MAGA friendly, Jack.

00:23:31.540 Anyone who claims otherwise is really telling tales.

00:23:35.980 And we could drop the pretentious nonsense about this idea that they didn't, like, there aren't people out there who have been talking about a brokered convention for a while.

00:23:45.100 They have been.

00:23:46.460 And so this, whether you think that that's their intention or not, I'm not here to speak to their intentions.

00:23:52.600 I don't know what's in their minds and their hearts.

00:23:54.180 But this does, if you move California to a truly proportional system with the at-large delegates and then you do a district delegate split, you do get that possibility that much closer, a lot closer.

00:24:09.000 So on March 5th, you know, the bottom line is Trump's expected to sweep almost every state on March 5th.

00:24:16.040 California is one that DeSantis has a lot of allies in California.

00:24:20.040 You know, a couple of months ago it looked like he could beat Trump there.

00:24:23.640 Now he's down considerably, 35 points, roughly, you know, 38 and some.

00:24:28.060 So if you're a DeSantis ally, you most certainly want to see this delegate change.

00:24:33.500 There's no ifs, ands, or doubts about it.

00:24:36.740 They got it.

00:24:37.540 If you're a DeSantis ally and a supporter, you got to get him to March 15th.

00:24:42.300 If he gets clobbered on March 5th or March 19th, excuse me, if he gets clobbered on March 5th and then he goes in, there's a couple of contests on March 12th, right before Florida.

00:24:52.380 He doesn't take Georgia and something else.

00:24:55.480 It's just going to be a bloodbath.

00:24:56.700 This race is over.

00:24:57.740 It's over very soon because the next week is his own state where, by the way, we just pulled and he's down 30 points, almost 30 points.

00:25:05.200 So this looks to me, again, I can't speak to the motivations here, man.

00:25:11.200 I'm not in the room.

00:25:12.240 I'm just telling you what the impact is, and if you are someone who supports DeSantis, you like this rule change, without a doubt.

00:25:19.080 However, again, I don't know that it does anything better for the process because more proportionality is going to inevitably lead the Republican Party down the road of superdelegates.

00:25:30.220 That will happen in the future if they make more proportional.

00:25:33.540 Well, and this is why, by the way, that the Democrats introduced the superdelegate system after the 1980 election because they had a guy, Ted Kennedy, who was primarying Jimmy Carter.

00:25:47.680 They viewed Jimmy Carter as weak.

00:25:49.720 They never wanted a guy who, by the way, and I know I'm going to get blown up every time I say that, that Jimmy Carter was kind of a populist Democrat, that they never wanted a guy like that in office again.

00:25:59.960 Yeah, he was.

00:26:01.740 He was a populist, tear-at-your-heart-string Democrat.

00:26:05.320 It's not somebody that you would have thought.

00:26:08.920 He was governor of Georgia, and that just wasn't jiving with the Democratic Party at that point.

00:26:14.560 And by the way, some of the conventions from the flower movement folks ended with violence and police, and this proportionality leads to division because there's no clear winner.

00:26:27.780 And then their answer to that was, well, let's get the superdelegates to override so we can end the system quicker, end the process quicker, and have more control over it. 0.97

00:26:38.780 I mean, if that's the way the Republican Party wants to move, oh, you know, more power to it.

00:26:43.260 I can't take that ride with you.

00:26:44.740 You know, voters should decide the nominee, Jack.

00:26:47.960 Voters should decide the nominee as well as the president.

00:26:50.980 Well, and it's like, you don't want the Justice Department determining who your nominee is.

00:26:55.500 Believe me, you do not want the party determining it either.

00:26:58.980 Well, and of course, and we should bring this up as well since we're getting into these questions of it seems like with the potential rise of superdelegates,

00:27:09.720 and I'm not saying that's happening, but that potential rise with the idea of the Justice Department trying to take Trump out of the race.

00:27:16.880 And by the way, and we just have to say it, there's this new warning, this plot by Norm Eisen and others, Jack Smith is part of it,

00:27:27.240 because these guys work hand in glove that they think that if they can indict Trump for something regarding or related to January 6th,

00:27:35.920 that it'll trigger the disqualification clause of the 14th Amendment.

00:27:40.260 I've been pounding the table this for weeks, that then it will disqualify Trump from standing for federal office because he participated in a rebellion against the United States.

00:27:51.320 This is a civil war provision that's been on the books in the Constitution since the 1800s.

00:27:58.400 That's what they want to go back to.

00:28:00.200 And that question then, of course, will come down, not just the delegates in the party infrastructure,

00:28:05.900 not just the Department of Justice, but would the Supreme Court of the United States then come in and put their thumb on the lever,

00:28:18.220 their thumb on the scale to tell us who we can and can't vote for for president?

00:28:25.460 Does Chief Justice Roberts want that to go down on his, you know, next in his chapter of the history book?

00:28:31.720 He's so concerned about the image of the court.

00:28:38.280 He upheld Obamacare for it.

00:28:40.320 This would be one one doozy of a way to end an already questionable tenure.

00:28:47.540 I don't know, Jack.

00:28:48.980 That's a question he would have to ask himself, you know, but I'll tell you this.

00:28:52.900 There have been two things there.

00:28:54.760 This is something else people have to understand because context is important.

00:28:57.500 There have been Republicans for a while, establishment Republicans for a while, who have considered something like a superdelegate system.

00:29:08.000 And there have been rumblings when, you know, donors get in a room and they say, what are you going to do when you're down?

00:29:14.000 People open up and they do say things like, well, there is that clause in the Constitution.

00:29:19.700 I don't see why the party can't adopt it.

00:29:21.400 If, you know, he ends up getting charged with something like sedition, not that the case would even be probably not that the case would be decided or would come to a conclusion by that time.

00:29:33.840 But, you know, if you think if you think anything is beneath some of these people, you got another thing coming.

00:29:41.520 You just fell off the truck.

00:29:42.660 I don't know what to tell you.

00:29:43.960 They they they know that the system at this point is favoring the voter, you know, and the popular opinions and views of the voter.

00:29:52.840 And that's not going their way right now.

00:29:54.540 So there there are people out there who would, you know, come hell or high water, do whatever they could to prevent this guy from winning the nomination again.

00:30:01.760 That's just the truth.

00:30:02.600 I mean, that that's people that people really have to understand the context.

00:30:06.520 So, again, you know, this is one state, but it's a big state.

00:30:10.180 It's a lot of delegates.

00:30:11.680 And it also is one heck of a narrative, you know, changer because you're coming out of Super Tuesday.

00:30:18.080 And if the delegates are diluted like that and it's like, you know, a contest that looks the allocation is more like a new.

00:30:24.100 You can already play the you hear it in your mind ahead.

00:30:27.440 It's going to say it's going to say, oh, there's no clear front runner.

00:30:31.300 The horse race is neck and neck, nipping at the heels.

00:30:35.700 We'll see what happens.

00:30:36.860 It's great for media, by the way.

00:30:38.600 Clockwork.

00:30:39.020 It is great.

00:30:39.440 We're just about out of time.

00:30:40.220 Where can people go to follow you, get all your coordinates?

00:30:43.200 And I know you're going to be doing even more videos on this.

00:30:45.780 I am.

00:30:46.360 I'm going to do one a little bit later today.

00:30:47.860 We had some stuff going, you know, we had some stuff with the fam earlier today and yesterday.

00:30:52.540 So I had to change the time of the show.

00:30:55.380 But people can check me out at peoplespundit.locals.com.

00:30:59.140 I'm probably going to do an hour long video later tonight about this.

00:31:01.760 Different rules and try to define some of these terms that are confusing people.

00:31:07.380 I think it's great.

00:31:08.360 And I appreciate the work.

00:31:09.680 I appreciate the passion.

00:31:10.720 Look, people need to understand that the grassroots of this country are upset and they feel like they are not trusting those in power.

00:31:19.180 Rich, much love to you and Laura and the whole family.

00:31:22.080 Right back here with Darren Beattie.

00:31:26.100 Stop buzzing in my ear about the boring people at your office.

00:31:29.740 I'm trying to listen to the new human events with Jack Posobiec.

00:31:34.200 All right, Jack Posobiec, we are back.

00:31:35.880 We're bringing on now one of our favorite guests, Darren Beattie of Revolver News.

00:31:41.360 Now, Darren, I know you and I have been watching this situation in France play out over the last week or so, the last few days, with great question.

00:31:51.420 And I've seen a lot of conservatives out there don't seem to be getting the right answer.

00:31:57.280 I don't even think they're asking the right question when they're looking at this.

00:31:59.840 Now, this all started with a, I would say, a George Floyd, Derek Chauvin kind of situation where you had an officer who had to discharge his firearm on a driver who was of Algerian descent, about 17 years old.

00:32:12.460 He was killed.

00:32:13.320 You can see in the video that he was actually attempting to run over the other officer who was on the hood of the car.

00:32:20.920 And, of course, the French media won't report this.

00:32:22.620 Yet I seem to see a lot of conservatives saying this is happening because it's a Marxist plot, it's Antifa, it's those type of things.

00:32:32.420 Is this really political violence that we're seeing in France right now, or is something else at play?

00:32:39.960 Well, it's an interesting question, and I guess it depends, you know, what one's definition of political violence actually is.

00:32:48.960 I mean, it exists within a political context of the French government, much like the governments of pretty much every other Western nation, deliberately enacting a policy of self-dispossession when it comes to their own country and their own people.

00:33:06.020 And so you have a substantial percentage of people living in France, particularly in the cities like Paris, who are from vastly different cultures, and not only from different cultures, but who have been kind of enabled by continuous propaganda, removing any accountability from their actions.

00:33:28.080 And so it's almost inevitable that you would see the kind of behavior that you see in France.

00:33:35.040 And, of course, there's similarities to other displays elsewhere in the West.

00:33:39.400 But this is basically what you get.

00:33:42.080 It's quite a spectacle.

00:33:43.880 You see everything burning.

00:33:45.200 It looks, you know, it's hard to gauge because it has every appearance of being a real kind of constitutional crisis.

00:33:53.080 But it is kind of interesting how these things can always kind of be quelled and how ultimately the rioters more or less are on the side of the regime because it's the regime that let them in in the first place.

00:34:08.220 And it's the regime through its nonstop propaganda that basically removes any accountability from the actions of these populations.

00:34:18.600 Well, so then the question then becomes, what could the regime do to prevent not only and it looks as though they have sort of quelled this current uprising?

00:34:28.700 They shut down the Internet over the weekend in a few areas.

00:34:31.760 They actually went in.

00:34:33.220 And in some respects, the French police and the French regime has been willing to use great violence.

00:34:39.260 And we've seen this, by the way, against Antifa on Bastille Day.

00:34:43.020 You saw it in some of the videos that got out.

00:34:45.140 I suspect that's why they cut Internet over the weekend so that they could send people into a few areas.

00:34:50.020 But that doesn't really solve the problem long term, does it?

00:34:53.100 No, it just contains it until the next inflammation.

00:34:59.020 And again, it's, you know, if they really wanted to solve it, they could.

00:35:04.640 You know, it's not as though these populations possess actual power and force.

00:35:11.880 If the French government and really the overwhelming majority of the French people decided they wanted to put an end to this for good, they could do it within a matter of weeks.

00:35:22.980 Of course, there would be international condemnation, the whining about human rights.

00:35:27.440 But the physical element of doing that is well within the capacities of the French regime and the French people if they wanted to do it.

00:35:35.720 So the fact that they don't and they allow this problem to persist means that for, you know, a couple of things.

00:35:42.920 One is that these populations are useful to the regime in some ways, even though they get out of hand, as we saw in the recent riots.

00:35:52.900 And secondly, they would rather allow these abuses to continue than cross a line that would cause the regime to be condemned internationally as a human rights violator.

00:36:07.540 So really, the squeamishness and lack of political will and the usefulness to the regime are all what prevents any kind of meaningful resolution to this persistent issue.

00:36:22.900 This is something that came up all the way back in May 2017 when Le Monde was going after me and other French papers for leaking the emails of then-candidate Emmanuel Macron and showing his direct ties and direct financial ties to many of the international banking structures that are headquartered within Paris, along the Champs-Élysées,

00:36:48.420 the very same areas that coincidentally were also being smashed and attacked by the populations that he has been offering to import. 0.99

00:36:57.980 Now, at the same time, Le Pen was the runner-up in that race.

00:37:02.180 She then became the subsequent runner-up.

00:37:05.320 The right-wing party in France continues to go through name change after name change.

00:37:09.580 But there seems to be a nascent right that wants to break out.

00:37:14.340 I'm not sure if they'll be able to use this situation to their advantage or not politically.

00:37:19.520 But we do look at a similar situation because this is what the regime has wanted.

00:37:25.620 And in many cases, these very voters are – and there was a video that I posted on Twitter and, of course, it got community noted and they tried to limit the reach of it – of an older woman standing or actually kneeling as police are coming out in riot gear, pleading with them to not go and arrest the rioters.

00:37:46.360 And this is the image that I think a lot of people need to see to understand that this isn't some organized group, that there actually are people within France and, by and large, the same block of voters, many of them are 60 and up, who have actually voted for this and want more of it to come into France.

00:38:08.960 Yes.

00:38:12.520 Yes.

00:38:13.080 Oh, I thought we were going to play the clip, but –

00:38:15.660 Oh, no.

00:38:16.020 Sorry, go ahead.

00:38:17.120 Yeah.

00:38:17.540 No, it's absolutely true.

00:38:21.020 And with these kinds of people, you know, they'll find any excuse to get on their knees, whether it's that Black Lives Matter or whether, in the case, this woman begging the police not to stop a riotous population from burning down the entire country. 0.98

00:38:35.500 It's really disgraceful, but it goes to show.

00:38:37.680 It's like, it's not simply an issue of the regime itself protecting it.

00:38:43.640 And many of the population, so you have the extreme level of this woman begging the police not to intervene in any sense, but I would be willing to guess that probably majority of the population wouldn't have the stomach to do what would actually be required to do.

00:39:01.540 And I don't think that any country in the West really possesses the stomach to solve these problems.

00:39:08.020 And that's why we're left with half measures.

00:39:10.120 And we're left with – not just for reasons of political correctness, but for reasons that people aren't really willing to solve the issue is just constant obfuscations as to what's really going on, the cultural element, the ethnic element, religious element, and even a racial element.

00:39:29.300 All of these things people have to – it's easier to deny that those elements are there because there's simply an impasse at any kind of solution that acknowledges those elements.

00:39:40.040 And so you're left with the same problem.

00:39:42.520 Another point on Macron, because he is an interesting figure geopolitically.

00:39:48.980 He is somebody who at least plays footsie with or gestures toward this idea that's described as strategic autonomy of kind of liberating Europe from its geopolitical vassalage to the United States, which is at the very least it's interesting.

00:40:07.180 But this kind of thing really goes to show you the limitation of his vision because you can't really contest sort of the global order of what I would call the globalist American empire without addressing these issues, which are very much Western problems associated with that sort of dominant system.

00:40:30.980 If he's not willing to deal with the problem, if he's not willing to deal with the underlying problem of the riots in France, he's not really a critic of the order as he sometimes presents himself to be.

00:40:43.100 And on a reciprocal basis, you see some politicians who are on the right domestically who lack that vision of independence in the geopolitical sense.

00:40:53.620 And I'm convinced that in order to really present the public with a new vision and a new possibility, one has to maintain independence, not only from the geopolitical perspective, but also domestically.

00:41:08.340 And unfortunately, there isn't really a single leader that I can think of who exhibits those traits in the West.

00:41:14.320 We're coming up on a quick break.

00:41:16.680 I think the closest leader that I could say, and you could argue whether it's the West or not, but at least in the Western hemisphere is El Presidente of El Salvador, Naive Bukele, who has shown us that there is a quick and simple way to deal with crime.

00:41:32.720 How Bukele ended the homicide rate in El Salvador with one simple trick. 0.83

00:41:39.580 It's called incarceration.

00:41:42.380 There are ways this can be done, and this is why the human rights groups completely hate him.

00:41:46.960 Stay tuned.

00:41:47.400 We are coming back here.

00:41:48.600 Darren Beattie with more.

00:41:51.940 When I grew up in the hood, I rolled with bloods. 0.99

00:41:55.560 And them boys had a saying.

00:41:57.420 You can't be listening to all that slappy whack, trim out his outlet, it's a bam ship, nippy bam bam, like Human Events with Jack Posobiec.

00:42:04.820 So, Darren, let me ask you another question.

00:42:10.720 Let's say the similar situation in France were happening in El Salvador right now.

00:42:16.640 How do you suppose that El Presidente, Naive Bukele, would deal with it?

00:42:22.160 Well, Bukele is one of the exceptions here. 0.63

00:42:26.260 He is truly remarkable.

00:42:27.640 What he's done is, you know, El Salvador isn't just any country.

00:42:31.420 This was the hotbed of one of the most brutal and violent gangs in the world, MS-13, and just crime-ridden country.

00:42:41.520 And this one guy demonstrated that, you know, it is actually possible to contain the worst type of violence, as you said, through incarceration, through a little bit of toughness.

00:42:51.120 You know, we saw this in the Philippines, too, with Duterte, but I think Bukele is even more competent, has handled it even more responsibly.

00:43:00.080 And, of course, you have the usual suspects whining about it.

00:43:03.420 The U.S. State Department is on his, you know, on his case.

00:43:07.220 And, of course, U.S. government, anyone who, because it's embarrassing to us for somebody like this to step up and show how easy it is if you actually have a competent government that cares about its citizen.

00:43:17.580 And, you know, as for all of these human rights groups complaining, you know, you've got to use human rights in quotation marks.

00:43:26.060 You know, everyone, you know, should legitimately care about human rights in the two cents, but it doesn't serve human rights to allow the most brutal type of violence to metastasize in the way that it was in El Salvador.

00:43:38.240 It's not human rights to allow these problems to persist in France.

00:43:42.100 It's not human rights to just simply sit back and allow violence to continue and allow your own citizens to be terrorized.

00:43:50.220 And so these human rights organizations, which, you know, are part of their own sort of NGO constellation, their own sort of networks, really exist to prevent any leader from challenging the prevailing Western order

00:44:07.440 that really requires this kind of combination of anarchy and tyranny that, you know, certain demographics, certain population groups, basically the criminals get a free pass while law-abiding, responsible, good, traditional citizens bear the full weight and full force of the government's hostility.

00:44:29.920 That's unfortunately where we are in the United States right now, but it's very encouraging to see at least somewhere there's competent, smart, and tough leadership.

00:44:39.960 So I fully congratulate Mr. Bukele on his amazing accomplishment.

00:44:44.980 No, I think we need to find a way to franchise the Bukele solution. 1.00

00:44:51.260 Perhaps a Bukele masterclass is an order for advanced reasoning.

00:44:57.460 But, Darren, it's interesting because one of the other subjects that you and I and another individual that you and I hold in the highest esteem and so close to our hearts,

00:45:07.260 Nini Yankovic was dealt a glaring blow over this weekend because a federal court in the Western District of Louisiana, Judge Terry Dougherty,

00:45:18.360 has granted a temporary injunction barring federal agencies, including HHS and the FBI, from contacting social media companies for, quote,

00:45:31.940 the purpose of urging, encouraging, pressuring, or inducing in any manner the removal, deletion, suppression, or reduction of content containing protected free speech.

00:45:44.240 Darren, how important is this ruling?

00:45:46.760 This is an enormous blow to the censorship industrial complex.

00:45:51.520 And as you mentioned, the ruling in this injunction basically prohibits Biden administration, Biden's goons, both individually and institutionally,

00:46:01.960 from putting their thumb on the scale from bullying social media companies into censoring things that they don't like.

00:46:10.120 It's basically a restraining order. It would be nice if we had a restraining order with Biden to keep him away from children.

00:46:16.900 But at least we have a restraining order keeping Biden officials away from social media companies that they've been pressuring to censor.

00:46:23.920 And I really encourage if people want something encouraging, if they want something positive and uplifting, read this memo, read the judge's memo.

00:46:34.140 It's 155 pages. Skim it if you like. But it really is a tour de force.

00:46:39.560 It takes you all throughout the censorship industrial complex, all of the major figures, and it has the receipts.

00:46:48.740 It has the details. It's just amazing emails presented of Biden White House officials really bullying Facebook.

00:46:58.720 It's incredible. Facebook, this is how obsequious they are, say, oh, we're so sorry.

00:47:03.860 We've done everything we can. And then the Biden person's like, how dare you?

00:47:08.300 I saw one post that was favorable to vaccines. What the hell are you guys doing?

00:47:13.680 Do better. And Facebook banned over backwards.

00:47:17.420 They said, we're even going to the lengths of censoring and throttling information that doesn't technically violate our terms of service just to keep you folks in the White House happy.

00:47:27.580 So it really illustrates directly and conspicuously a dimension of the censorship story, which is it's not just the freaks like Yul Roth and, you know, the censorious commissars embedded within the trust and safety communities, departments of these tech firms.

00:47:46.600 A big part of the story was straight up bullying and intimidation on the part of Biden government to censor anything related to COVID vaccines, the lockdowns, masks.

00:48:00.100 Of course, the the Hunter laptop was viciously suppressed all the way up to the 2020 election, of course.

00:48:08.900 So none of these commissars are happy. I'm sure Nina is, you know, she's probably eating comfort food right now and singing a few show tunes from from the Moaning Myrtles.

00:48:22.120 Another one is Renee DiResta, who is arguably even higher up in the censorship hierarchy. 0.98

00:48:29.300 This is a huge blow to her and her organization, the Stanford Internet Observatory.

00:48:35.400 So this is a great development. We need to keep keep the pressure on.

00:48:40.740 The war is not over, but this is definitely a battle well and deservedly won.

00:48:47.080 Well, I just I just can't imagine how Joan Donovan is going to explain all of this to her refrigerator.

00:48:53.940 Darren, where can people go to follow you? Where can they get the latest from Revolver News?

00:48:59.000 She is the refrigerator. You go to Revolver dot news, Revolver dot news.

00:49:06.340 We got some new stuff, white hot and the Soros minions.

00:49:09.260 They canceled us from five different email senders. We're finally back up and running.

00:49:13.800 So go there, sign up for our newsletter. And I'm on Twitter at Darren Day.

00:49:20.420 Darren Beattie, always a pleasure, my friend. Sorry, William Perry.

00:49:23.660 Sorry, sorry, Chicago Bears. No, no, you are no longer the fridge.

00:49:28.400 It is Joan the Fridge Donovan.

00:49:32.680 Ladies and gentlemen, we will be back here tomorrow, 2 p.m. Eastern.

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00:49:42.580 And ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - July 05, 2023

EPISODE 510： UKRAINE POWER PLANT ATTACK： HOAX OR WW3？ DELEGATE DRAMA, AND AN EL SALVADOR SOLUTION FOR FRANCE

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