Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - July 06, 2023


EPISODE 511： BIDEN ADMIN. GIVES WIFE OF D.C. U.S. ATTORNEY ALL ACCESS PASS TO WHITE HOUSE

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EPISODE 510： UKRAINE POWER PLANT ATTACK： HOAX OR WW3？ DELEGATE DRAMA, AND AN EL SALVADOR SOLUTION FOR FRANCE EPISODE 512： DOJ'S ALLEGED MISCONDUCT WILL DESTROY THEIR CASE AGAINST TRUMP

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Jack Posobiec is joined by Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk, and many others to speak at the Turning Point Action Action Summit on July 15th and 16th in Tampa, Florida. He also talks about The Sound of Freedom and why it should be the number 1 movie in America on July 4th.

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00:00:00.000 We are in the fight for America's future and we are assembling a team to fight back.
00:00:08.680 Turning point action this July 15th and 16th is where the assemblage will take place.
00:00:16.140 Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, Dan Bongino, Steve Bannon, myself, Charlie Kirk, Senator Hawley,
00:00:24.340 Senator Vance, Matt Gaetz, Benny Johnson, Vivek Ramaswamy, Scott Pressler, Mike Lindell,
00:00:31.160 Harmeet Dillon, you need to be there.
00:00:35.100 Go and sign up immediately.
00:00:37.660 tpaction.com is the site.
00:00:41.580 tpaction.com.
00:00:43.720 Use promo code POSO and you will get a discount.
00:00:47.760 Secure your tickets immediately.
00:00:49.880 Don't be coming to me saying, can you get me in after this thing sells out?
00:00:53.780 Because it will sell out fast.
00:00:55.380 And I will see you down in Florida this July 15th and 16th for the greatest assemblage of patriots this country has seen since Valley Forge.
00:01:09.200 We are in a fifth generational conflict.
00:01:18.060 For every lie they tell, we're going to get in their face and yell two truths.
00:01:23.120 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:01:26.540 Christ is king.
00:01:27.360 Evgeny Krogosian is back in Russia, in St. Petersburg, instead of being in exile in Belarus.
00:01:33.300 The majority of Republican primary voters right now say they would be less likely to vote for a candidate who supports funding Ukraine's war effort.
00:01:43.200 Key agencies, officials from the Biden administration now barred from meeting and communicating with social media companies about content on their platform.
00:01:51.800 I think it's safe to say the administration will eventually appeal this.
00:01:56.180 So we are regularly making sure social media platforms are aware of the latest narratives dangerous to public health.
00:02:03.120 I do think that he should consider structural reform of the court.
00:02:07.440 And, you know, I knew that Joe would always be the education president.
00:02:12.760 Well, I hate to say that I think she may be the only person who believes that. 0.77
00:02:16.140 In the last couple of weeks, we've had a trans activist burying her breasts. 1.00
00:02:19.900 We find coke. 0.99
00:02:20.740 It's like if this were it's like they're running a low rent strip club.
00:02:24.920 President Trump has millions of small donors that invest in him.
00:02:29.400 They maybe aren't rich people.
00:02:30.560 They aren't big donors, but they go out there and they use their hard earned money to get a leader elected.
00:02:36.640 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard.
00:02:38.340 Today's edition of Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:02:41.160 Today is July 6, 2023.
00:02:43.640 Did you know today is the one year anniversary of the destruction of the Georgia Guidestones or what happened to those Guidestones?
00:02:53.900 I guess we'll never know.
00:02:55.740 Play the Unsolved Mysteries music.
00:02:57.620 I'm just kidding.
00:02:58.160 We don't actually have the music, but we do have fantastic news.
00:03:02.740 And I have to thank every single person in this audience, every single person within the sound of my voice who chipped in, who stood up, who stood strong.
00:03:13.060 And even if it was a comment, if it was an email to us, or even just a retweet, the sound of freedom hit the number one movie.
00:03:23.840 Number one movie in America on the 4th of July.
00:03:28.480 We said that when this movie came out that it would shock the world.
00:03:32.080 And let me tell you something.
00:03:33.580 All those YouTubers, all those people with their access journalism, because, oh, I went to the sneak preview, went to the sneak screening, Indiana Jones.
00:03:42.380 They're all talking about it.
00:03:43.420 They're all saying how good it is.
00:03:44.520 They won't say a word about this.
00:03:46.220 They won't say a word about the fact that this film, The Sound of Freedom, beats Indiana Jones at the box office, beat Disney, despite the fact that it's on half the screens.
00:03:59.340 That's right.
00:04:00.820 It's on about 2,500 screens to about 4,600 screens.
00:04:06.460 That means the per theater average, okay, if you want to understand how the business works, the per theater average of Sound of Freedom was double, double that of Disney, double that of Mickey Mouse, double that of Kathleen Kennedy.
00:04:25.160 Kathleen Kennedy, more like Kathleen Cantody.
00:04:27.540 Look, this film has ignited a wildfire.
00:04:34.420 It started with, of course, believers, conservative shows, outlets like Human Events, our work on independent media.
00:04:44.600 It's gone beyond that.
00:04:46.360 This is actually becoming a core to force.
00:04:48.800 This is, and I believe this film is a watershed moment for this issue, for our world.
00:04:58.300 We have decided, my parents, during the show yesterday when we were on here and we were doing Human Events, my parents were actually at the theater watching this film.
00:05:09.220 This is about standing up to Hollywood.
00:05:13.500 This is about standing up to the mainstream media.
00:05:16.200 This is about showing that we can do this.
00:05:20.020 And there's nothing you can do to stop us.
00:05:22.120 There's nothing you can do to stop this film.
00:05:24.540 And the pedophiles are seething right now that this film is out there.
00:05:28.060 The pedophiles are seething that this film is the number one in America.
00:05:32.620 Hollywood sat on this film for five years.
00:05:36.220 Disney had the rights to this.
00:05:37.360 When Disney bought Fox Studios, Disney had the rights to this film.
00:05:43.520 Disney, why didn't you want to put out an anti-pedophile movie, Disney?
00:05:47.980 I have a question.
00:05:49.820 I have a little question for Bobby Iger, for all the folks over there.
00:05:56.260 You could have put it out under Fox Searchlight.
00:05:58.540 You could have done what you do.
00:06:00.700 But why didn't you want to put out a movie that was anti-pedophile, Disney?
00:06:04.880 Did you have a problem with that message?
00:06:08.540 Did Disney not want to get behind an anti-pedophile movie?
00:06:13.840 Why is that?
00:06:14.600 I have a lot of questions.
00:06:16.080 And let me tell you something.
00:06:17.300 When I have questions, I get answers.
00:06:20.100 And now, we've got an entire army of people across the country and is now moving across the world.
00:06:28.360 So, God's timing is always perfect.
00:06:32.980 That's all I have to say.
00:06:34.140 God's timing is always perfect.
00:06:36.440 The movie came out when it was meant to be.
00:06:39.520 Folks, we've got Mike Davis coming on next.
00:06:42.020 We've got Julie Kelly with a huge scoop coming up for us later in the show. 0.98
00:06:46.920 You need to stick around for this.
00:06:48.520 And also, a special message about Turning Point Action.
00:06:51.720 We're going to reveal some news and name some names about what's going on, who's appearing, who's not appearing.
00:06:57.480 Stay tuned as Human Events continues.
00:06:59.160 I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:07:05.920 All right, guys.
00:07:06.640 Jack Posobiec.
00:07:07.100 We're back.
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00:07:08.040 Now, I've got to tell you, if I seem a little bit extra, I don't know, energized today, if I seem a little more upbeat, if I seem like I'm a little bit going a bit stronger,
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00:08:26.840 Now, I want to bring on Mike Davis from the Article 3 Project.
00:08:30.500 Because we have to ask this question about what's happening with the delegate apportionment
00:08:35.620 and in California, some of these other situations.
00:08:38.920 Because we have Richard Barrisson yesterday who was walking us through how there's been
00:08:43.780 this huge debate raging about this new system or potential new system of reapportionment
00:08:51.360 of delegates when it comes to the California primary.
00:08:54.340 Is it going to be winner-take-all?
00:08:56.380 Is it going to be proportional?
00:08:57.560 Are there going to be thresholds?
00:08:58.540 No thresholds?
00:08:59.620 Well, there was an email that went out last night after our show to every single member
00:09:06.000 of the California GOP.
00:09:07.860 And I'd like to bring Mike Davis on now to explain what the situation is.
00:09:13.100 Mike, thanks for joining us.
00:09:14.960 Thank you for having me, Jack.
00:09:15.860 So, Mike, walk us through.
00:09:19.240 We know there's been this question of California is now changing their, or it has been changed,
00:09:24.880 right, by the Denver by Gavin Newsom, has moved up California's primary date.
00:09:29.680 That triggers a requirement that they must comply with RNC guidelines for primaries that
00:09:37.100 are held before March 15th.
00:09:40.400 However, there's a question as to how the actual new rule will be written.
00:09:45.320 And what is the latest update as of last evening?
00:09:49.060 Well, Harmeet Dillon is one of my friends and strong allies with Article 3 Project and
00:09:54.320 Internet Accountability Project.
00:09:55.900 I've worked with Harmeet for years.
00:09:57.600 She is a loyal Trump supporter.
00:09:59.880 Her campaign represent, or excuse me, her law firm represents the Trump campaign.
00:10:03.920 She's been a warrior for Trump for many years.
00:10:06.280 What happened with this RNC meeting is they're trying to comply with the update, because, as
00:10:14.300 you said, Jack, because they moved their primary before March 15th.
00:10:18.100 They have to have, they have to go from a winner-take-all system to a proportional system.
00:10:24.760 But there was some confusion with that where you can still have carve-outs where if you, for
00:10:30.960 example, if a candidate gets 50% more or more of the vote, they can get a winner-take-all.
00:10:36.040 Or if there are candidates who don't get 20%, they don't get any delegates.
00:10:40.140 And so these are the thresholds.
00:10:42.340 This is the idea of like a 50% or a 20%, because we were digging into this, Texas, Florida,
00:10:48.780 some of the other states.
00:10:49.600 50%, 20% seems to be kind of a standard that we're seeing in sites that fall under this
00:10:55.040 rule.
00:10:56.100 Correct.
00:10:56.480 And that's what Harmeet's been advocating for.
00:10:58.400 She's been advocating to have a threshold of 50% winner-take-all, along with that 20% threshold. 0.86
00:11:05.500 This is not being resolved.
00:11:08.680 This is simply a proposal.
00:11:10.560 And this is a proposal that was going to the executive committee, then it has to go to
00:11:14.640 the rules committee, and then it has to go to the full convention.
00:11:19.480 And so this is not set in stone.
00:11:22.620 It sounds like, based upon Harmeet's email, that what she's been advocating for, she's
00:11:27.980 going to push for that.
00:11:28.620 And it sounds like she's going to get other members of the committee, the California Republican
00:11:34.220 National Committee board, to go along with what she's been advocating for.
00:11:38.160 My biggest concern has been for people attacking Harmeet.
00:11:42.180 Harmeet is a Trump loyalist.
00:11:44.880 She's a conservative warrior.
00:11:46.300 She has been for years.
00:11:48.160 There's no malice here.
00:11:50.440 Harmeet is trying to balance where she's representing, her firm is representing the Trump campaign,
00:11:56.560 and she has a fiduciary duty as the national committee woman in California to make sure
00:12:02.200 that the will of California voters is followed here.
00:12:04.660 And she's threading the needle, and she's doing that.
00:12:07.600 So I think people just need to, they need to, I think that before they criticize Harmeet,
00:12:15.100 I would suggest that they read her email and actually pick up the phone and call her.
00:12:19.180 Well, so here's my question then.
00:12:23.040 If this, because I read the email, I read through it last night when it came out, I think Laura
00:12:28.820 Loomer had posted it.
00:12:29.800 I saw all four pages.
00:12:31.060 Very interesting.
00:12:32.440 And in that, there was this discussion of sort of, you know, this idea that there was an artificial
00:12:38.740 timeline that said the rule change had to be in by June, which would be months before
00:12:44.180 before the new, the next meeting of the California GOP, where this could actually be debated with
00:12:51.280 the entire committee there present, as opposed to putting it, pushing it through in June.
00:12:57.360 And then there was this question of, you needed some sort of temporary rule that had to be pushed
00:13:02.860 in.
00:13:03.280 And that's what went for it.
00:13:04.600 What's going on right there?
00:13:05.940 Can you break any of that down for us?
00:13:08.280 That's a, that's a very good question.
00:13:09.880 And I think that there was some misinformation communicated to Harmeet on when things needed
00:13:16.840 to happen and in the process.
00:13:18.640 And she, she pushed back on that and her email kind of gets, gets to that.
00:13:24.400 The bottom line is, is that Harmeet's position that there's going to be a 50% threshold for
00:13:31.920 winner take all.
00:13:32.900 And then there's going to be the 20% threshold.
00:13:35.520 She's pushing for that.
00:13:36.500 It sounds like she's convincing other members to go along with that.
00:13:41.240 And it sounds like that's, what's going to be the California position when this is all
00:13:45.480 said and done, or at least that's what Harmeet is advocating for.
00:13:49.080 So, you know, again, I think people need to cool off on attacking Harmeet and questioning
00:13:55.880 her motives and her loyalty, because it's not fair to Harmeet, who has spent many, many,
00:14:01.460 many years fighting these conservative fights for Donald Trump.
00:14:05.800 She has the scars to prove it. 0.75
00:14:07.780 She's volunteered thousands of hours of her very valuable time to do this.
00:14:13.460 And people should take a, take, take a step back and actually read her email.
00:14:17.800 And if they have questions still, these self-proclaimed journalists should actually do what journalists
00:14:24.140 do.
00:14:24.440 And that's reach out to her and ask her these questions before they smear her.
00:14:28.540 Well, and I remember, and of course, I remember Harmeet publicly advocating for President Trump
00:14:33.540 throughout 2020 and also in the aftermath of 2020, when many lawyers ran away from President
00:14:40.060 Trump at that time period.
00:14:41.460 But there's, there's another question here as well that I have is that Harmeet Dillon,
00:14:45.460 she's not the, the, the California GOP chair that was in Richard Barris was on yesterday.
00:14:49.940 And I think you rightfully pointed out that it's this Jessica Patterson who's actually,
00:14:53.480 obviously Harmeet is more well-known, but Jessica Patterson actually is the chairwoman
00:14:57.820 of the party there.
00:14:59.800 And Barris said that it's really this Patterson that was pushing that rule change.
00:15:04.200 That also seemed to be what Harmeet was saying in the letter that we saw last night.
00:15:10.160 It sounds like that's the case.
00:15:12.660 And that's my point.
00:15:13.620 I look, I actually agree with those who are raising the flag here and saying that this
00:15:18.200 is not right, what they're doing in California.
00:15:19.880 I agree with that.
00:15:20.880 Where, where my disagreement is, is the people who are unfairly attacking Harmeet when she
00:15:26.080 also agrees with us and that she's been advocating this, including within these meetings.
00:15:31.500 And she's the one who's going to actually make this happen if it happens.
00:15:34.700 And she's doing it over opposition from other people on this California GOP board.
00:15:41.120 And so I think people need to understand that Harmeet is not the enemy.
00:15:44.420 She's not a Trojan horse.
00:15:46.700 You know, her firm's representing Donald Trump.
00:15:48.600 She's not a Trojan horse undermining Donald Trump to the benefit of some other candidate.
00:15:53.800 That's just an insane conspiracy theory.
00:15:56.020 And that's why I decided over the 4th of July weekend to spend my weekend defending Harmeet
00:16:00.660 Dillon.
00:16:02.500 That's right.
00:16:03.060 And, and, and this really did pop out of, out of nowhere, but I do think, I do think
00:16:06.820 it's important because I remember this and look, I'll, I'll take it on, on the head because
00:16:11.940 look, you know, I'm, I'm already in the January 6th report and all these other reports that
00:16:17.680 mention it.
00:16:18.180 It's, it's, it comes down to this when they talk about hashtag stop the steal and that,
00:16:23.460 which was a social media campaign.
00:16:25.580 I'm sorry, Jack Smith.
00:16:27.460 I'm sorry, Joe Biden.
00:16:28.860 I'm sorry, Nancy Pelosi.
00:16:29.860 It was a social media campaign.
00:16:31.520 It was a hashtag that we ran in 2020 hashtag stop the steal.
00:16:35.440 You know why we used it?
00:16:36.460 Cause it's a good hashtag.
00:16:37.860 It's catchy.
00:16:38.700 Um, that the original, original use.
00:16:42.200 And by the way, nobody asked me to tweet this.
00:16:44.740 And Jack, why did you tweet stop the steal in September of 2020?
00:16:47.620 It's because I felt like it.
00:16:48.480 You know why?
00:16:49.040 Cause it's a meme.
00:16:50.240 Why do, and why did I post it?
00:16:51.540 Because I like him.
00:16:52.740 Uh, that I kid you not, man.
00:16:55.580 They, they were digging.
00:16:57.160 Someone asked Jack Pacific from the white house, but tweet off the steal.
00:16:59.980 The very original stop the steal all the way back was not 2018, which by the way, you did
00:17:06.840 see a lot of MAGA people come in on behalf of Ron DeSantis in Broward County in 2018.
00:17:11.860 November, um, was not that it was all the way back at the delegate convention situation,
00:17:19.260 the rules committee of the RNC, the convention in Cleveland in 2016.
00:17:24.920 That was the original stop this deal, which was all about that last minute on this, Mike
00:17:29.360 Dave.
00:17:31.340 Yeah.
00:17:31.800 I mean, I would just, uh, I appreciate what you're doing to get information out there on
00:17:35.340 this GAC.
00:17:36.260 Uh, there's a lot of confusion.
00:17:38.260 Uh, I would say that this is going to get sorted out.
00:17:40.680 Harmeet's going to ensure this gets sorted out.
00:17:42.740 And again, people should, uh, people should call Harmeet before they accuse, accuse her of 0.90
00:17:49.200 being disloyal or otherwise question her motives.
00:17:51.520 No, and I, and I think that, uh, look, I'll, I'll put it this way.
00:17:56.640 I think people are right to ask questions.
00:17:58.660 I think that people are right to raise flags about the process, about the system, the personalities
00:18:03.880 involved, but at the same time, that's why we, that's what we do here.
00:18:08.260 And that's why I've been working the phones.
00:18:09.860 That's why I was calling people on both sides of this thing saying, what is the truth?
00:18:14.980 What is actually going on in California?
00:18:17.600 Mike, can we hold you on?
00:18:18.380 Because I want to ask you about some other stuff coming up after the break here, but
00:18:21.460 I do think that it's so important for us to understand what's happening because people
00:18:25.600 are rightfully concerned.
00:18:28.380 Will the RNC turn into, as Richard Barris said, going for this super delegate system?
00:18:33.480 Could we potentially be pushing on the right to say, this is what turns people off from
00:18:37.900 party politics.
00:18:39.160 And so the idea then of keeping the system set up the way the elected members of the
00:18:45.580 party, the voters of the party ultimately being able to decide, that's what I think people
00:18:51.340 want.
00:18:51.740 And you need to use your power to make sure that stays the way coming up next.
00:18:56.400 All right, Mike Davis, I want to do something a little different here on the show.
00:19:07.080 So next week we've got turning point action, act con, the act con action conference that's
00:19:13.820 coming up down in West Palm beach.
00:19:15.660 And Charlie Kirk just did something that I've never seen him do before.
00:19:21.420 He put out a list of the people, because everybody, whenever there's a turning point event, people
00:19:26.360 say, who's speaking, who's speaking, who's not speaking, who's doing this, who's doing
00:19:29.500 that.
00:19:29.940 The media goes back and forth.
00:19:31.420 They say like, you know, what, uh, you know, this person was there, this person's not there.
00:19:35.640 What, what rank are they on the, you know, on the seating chart, the, you know, whenever
00:19:39.100 the announcement goes through, he just put out a list of candidates for president that will
00:19:45.360 be arriving that have declined to attend and the people who are still TBD.
00:19:55.160 So let me go through the list with you really quickly here.
00:19:57.540 Donald J.
00:19:58.300 Trump confirmed Vivek Ramaswamy confirmed Francis Suarez, who is the mayor of Miami confirmed.
00:20:06.620 However, decline, decline, declined.
00:20:09.480 Mike Pence, Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, all declined.
00:20:13.420 Chris Christie, TBD, no response.
00:20:16.620 Asa Hutchinson, TBD, no response.
00:20:18.800 Doug Burgum, TBD, no response.
00:20:20.740 Larry Elder, TBD, no response.
00:20:23.720 Ron DeSantis, TBD.
00:20:26.740 So it seems like, and I haven't spoken to Charlie about this otherwise, it seems like they have
00:20:32.260 talked with DeSantis.
00:20:34.300 Obviously the event is in Florida.
00:20:35.620 Ron DeSantis, I remember, spoke at multiple Turning Point Action events throughout 2022.
00:20:43.420 However, it appears he is not a confirmed speaker for the Turning Point Action Conference, which
00:20:50.360 will be happening next week in West Palm Beach.
00:20:54.000 6,000 people will be there.
00:20:55.820 It's obviously a very strong grassroots event.
00:20:58.500 Tucker, Steve Bannon, myself, et cetera, Dan Bongino.
00:21:01.100 I mean, this is the place to be.
00:21:03.540 What do you think it says about these candidates either not showing up or not giving a response?
00:21:09.800 Did you say it was in Florida?
00:21:13.140 That's right, West Palm Beach.
00:21:14.200 Unless there's another West Palm Beach you know of.
00:21:16.620 So it's in Florida.
00:21:18.240 Maybe the governor of Florida could show up.
00:21:20.380 If you don't have a governor of Florida, maybe you could invite the acting governor of Florida.
00:21:23.880 I mean, it's a head-scratcher to me that DeSantis wouldn't show up to this event, but maybe he doesn't
00:21:32.120 think it's important to go talk to young conservative leaders from all over the country.
00:21:37.860 Yeah, it's strange to me as well, because I'll put it this way, and Charlie has said publicly
00:21:43.500 that he's backing Trump personally because he had made a longstanding promise to Trump.
00:21:48.080 But that being said, a group like Turning Point Action has always tried to sort of keep
00:21:54.280 that balance between all the different angles out there when it comes down to it and to
00:21:59.520 say, basically, look, if there's an event that's going on, we, I mean, obviously, from
00:22:04.380 a perspective, just a pure events promotion perspective, you want as many people there
00:22:09.780 as possible because you want to generate that buzz.
00:22:12.240 You want to generate that spirit of competition.
00:22:14.420 You want to see what it's like.
00:22:15.920 You know, who gets cheered, who gets booed, who gets the applause lines, that type of
00:22:20.000 thing, and then maybe hold a straw poll.
00:22:22.900 So the idea, because this is how, I mean, really, this is what put CPAC on the map, which
00:22:28.120 was the idea that every candidate had to go through CPAC, and then they had the CPAC straw
00:22:33.420 poll.
00:22:34.120 That, I would say, used to be, and in many cases still is, one of the big standards onto going
00:22:41.060 and winning the GOP nomination.
00:22:43.600 Obviously, this year, it's a little bit different because we don't have an incumbent, but we do
00:22:47.280 have a former president, an immediate former president running.
00:22:50.320 And so it kind of functions like an incumbent.
00:22:54.840 Yeah, I mean, it's very interesting.
00:22:56.620 I think Governor DeSantis has been an outstanding governor, but I've just been very underwhelmed
00:23:01.520 with DeSantis' presidential campaign.
00:23:04.900 And if Vivek is going to this event and Governor DeSantis is not, then it's hard for me to
00:23:11.460 understand why the DeSantis people are finding it puzzling that Vivek is becoming a quick
00:23:18.720 competitor for the number two slot in the Republican primary.
00:23:22.020 I think this is a big mistake by DeSantis for not RSVPing to this event in his home state,
00:23:29.400 where he is the governor, with these key conservative influencers from all over the country, especially
00:23:34.020 young people.
00:23:35.700 And to be clear, by the way, Governor DeSantis spoke at the event last year.
00:23:40.540 This isn't like an event that he's not.
00:23:43.700 We had it in Tampa last year, not in West Palm, but it's essentially the same event with
00:23:48.620 Turning Point Action that he spoke at last year.
00:23:51.240 President Trump also spoke.
00:23:52.560 I remember his speech.
00:23:53.640 I was in the room.
00:23:54.500 He got a ton of applause there.
00:23:55.740 I would think that he would again if he showed up.
00:23:59.180 And I guess the question then becomes, you know, and I just got to say it, all right?
00:24:03.940 I'm going to say it.
00:24:04.720 One of the reasons that Vivek Ramaswamy is now, and you saw the Echelon Insights poll
00:24:09.700 that came out yesterday, which is an A, you know, A, A minus rated poll, that Vivek is now
00:24:15.720 within striking distance of number two nationwide, is because he's not campaigning as an anti-Trump
00:24:25.520 candidate.
00:24:26.280 In some instances, it seems like he's actually campaigning as also MAGA, but then willing
00:24:32.540 to talk about things from a new perspective, be more innovative about different issues.
00:24:37.220 But he's not, I'll put it this way.
00:24:39.340 He's not disrespecting MAGA voters.
00:24:41.780 He's not attacking MAGA voters or the MAGA candidate.
00:24:44.700 He's attacking everybody else.
00:24:46.740 He showed up down there in Florida for the classified Mar-a-Lago case, right?
00:24:54.000 This question about the classified documents that you and I have talked about at great length.
00:24:57.960 And I think that has won him points.
00:25:00.860 We had you on that day when President Trump was indicted, but Vivek Ramaswamy was the only
00:25:05.680 candidate who was down there.
00:25:07.000 And I have to say, I think MAGA voters are taking notice of it.
00:25:11.260 Yeah, I mean, I am very impressed with him.
00:25:14.320 And I'm a huge Trump supporter.
00:25:16.360 I'm definitely supporting Trump for president.
00:25:18.880 I've always supported Trump for president.
00:25:21.660 I think Governor DeSantis is an outstanding governor.
00:25:24.380 I think he's our best governor.
00:25:25.620 It's just a head scratcher to me that he's running such a bad presidential campaign.
00:25:31.840 And when I see Vivek quickly going into the number two position, I think maybe the DeSantis team
00:25:39.180 may need to regroup and think maybe we made a mistake by jumping in against Trump this time.
00:25:44.540 He's not even going to be 50 years old.
00:25:47.360 I guess he'll be he'll just turn 50 when 2028 rolls around.
00:25:52.020 I think Governor DeSantis maybe should cut his losses and drop out, endorse Trump and then
00:25:57.360 save himself for 2028.
00:26:00.400 Well, I think a lot of people have looked at that as well, because and look, I've said this
00:26:04.780 on this show all the time.
00:26:06.900 I've said it in on Tim Pool when I do media appearances.
00:26:10.240 I always say, I always say that everybody wants to argue with me about four years, right?
00:26:18.780 We know there's a four year term that's coming up for president, right?
00:26:22.240 That's every presidential term is four years.
00:26:23.740 You determine liberty to everybody gets it.
00:26:25.180 But if there were a way for a deal to be struck between the two camps where you work in tandem,
00:26:33.320 then you don't need to talk about four years.
00:26:36.180 You can put together a plan for 12 years.
00:26:40.980 Now, I was saying that at the onset of this, obviously, there's a bit more bad blood right
00:26:44.800 now than there was at the time.
00:26:46.380 But I do think when you look in terms of the movement, we look in terms of the party, when
00:26:49.580 you look in terms of the country, which is obviously what we're hoping to be able to
00:26:54.240 see success for and make great again and all these other things, that you would say a 12
00:26:59.900 year plan is probably a little bit more effective than a four year plan that we're all squabbling
00:27:05.020 over.
00:27:06.480 Yeah, I mean, that's just it.
00:27:08.120 I think, like I said, I think Governor DeSantis is the best governor in America.
00:27:12.200 He's, I think he got, I think he just, I think he got into the presidential politics
00:27:19.140 too soon.
00:27:20.240 He's not ready.
00:27:21.180 It's very clear he's not ready by the, by, by his very underwhelming presidential campaign.
00:27:27.100 I think he can salvage his reputation among conservatives, particularly Trump conservatives
00:27:32.400 by finding a way to gracefully bow out, endorse Trump and save himself for 2028.
00:27:40.540 Well, and this is why, and as we were talking about in the previous segment, this is why the
00:27:45.240 delegate apportionment matters, because if you have delegates that are then being apportioned
00:27:51.180 in different ways, when you go through some of these early states, it actually extends
00:27:56.700 what is, what seems to be a very contentious primary, which would extend it far beyond what
00:28:02.020 the level that it normally would have.
00:28:03.920 So instead of this thing being done by the end of February, super Tuesday, it now rolls into
00:28:08.340 March, then it rolls into April.
00:28:09.940 Now you're getting closer to the convention and all of this being done in a presidential
00:28:14.540 cycle, which we have to face facts.
00:28:16.760 We are only what, uh, 14 months away from the election, 14, 15 months away from the election
00:28:21.840 or something.
00:28:22.320 It's not that long away.
00:28:24.440 So the longer people keep this fight up, the more money is spent, the more energy is spent.
00:28:31.200 I think this is why these, and it may sound arcane, you know, the, the threshold of the
00:28:36.040 20%, the 50%, but it actually matters because I, you and I am sure can see the media writing
00:28:42.040 on the wall.
00:28:42.660 And the other piece, before I let you go, when I ask you about this, uh, there's this
00:28:46.760 question as well of the 14th amendment.
00:28:48.800 If president Trump is indicted and probably will be for January 6th, if he's convicted
00:28:55.580 by a DC court, which if they, if they hold the trial quickly, I can't imagine that a DC
00:29:00.600 court will let him off.
00:29:01.460 Do you believe that a fight for the 14th amendment then for president Trump, does that go all
00:29:07.000 the way up to the Supreme court?
00:29:08.200 And what happens then?
00:29:09.220 I know it's a quick question.
00:29:10.060 We only have a couple of minutes, but I want to get your, just your quick thoughts on it.
00:29:13.840 If, if Democrats and DC Republicans and other Trump deranged rhinos think that they are going 0.89
00:29:19.040 to overturn the will of the American people through some novel reading of the 14th amendment
00:29:24.820 with this bogus January 6th and insurrection theory, that is absolutely not going to fly
00:29:32.320 with the American people.
00:29:33.520 So therefore it's not going to fly at the Supreme court.
00:29:37.420 Now, do you think, what do you think?
00:29:39.060 Are we looking at another six, three, do you think five, four, do you think anyone peels
00:29:42.700 off?
00:29:43.360 I mean, I'm not asking you to read the tea leaves, but Hey, come on, that's your job.
00:29:46.880 I mean, it should be nine to nothing, but you see with these three Democrat Supreme court
00:29:51.560 justices that they're just mindless partisans.
00:29:55.000 And so they're going to, if Trump's, if any of Trump is before them, they're going to vote
00:29:59.820 against Trump mindlessly.
00:30:01.300 It doesn't matter.
00:30:02.000 It should be nine to nothing.
00:30:03.060 It will be six to three.
00:30:05.380 Well, unfortunately I think you're right.
00:30:06.720 And, but I have to ask you and final minute on this, is it the role of the Supreme court
00:30:11.760 to determine who is able to run for president in America under our system?
00:30:17.060 No, not at all.
00:30:18.240 There, the qualifications are in the constitution.
00:30:22.060 This insurrection theory down in Georgia, both in Georgia and DC is a bogus legal theory.
00:30:30.300 It is not, it is not insurrection.
00:30:32.380 It is actually allowed by the electoral count act of 1887 to object to a presidential election.
00:30:38.480 It's allowed by the first amendment.
00:30:40.240 It's only illegal to object to presidential elections and third world Marxist hell holes. 0.72
00:30:45.580 And that seems like that's where the Democrats are trying to take America because they hate
00:30:49.640 our country and they're trying to destroy it. 0.63
00:30:53.100 Mike Davis in a nutshell, everyone go file Mike Davis, the article three project.
00:30:58.060 He's been calling the shots on this and calling balls and strikes from the very start.
00:31:03.040 Thank you, Mike.
00:31:03.500 Thank you for your time.
00:31:04.900 Thank you, Jack.
00:31:05.380 All right, folks, we've got Julie Kelly up next because as we look on all of this, we've
00:31:12.060 got to ask her about that very same question.
00:31:13.900 We're talking about the 2024 primary.
00:31:16.200 What will come next?
00:31:17.420 What is the next shoe to drop?
00:31:19.060 And I'm telling you, she was the one who called it first for anyone else.
00:31:23.860 Come back next to an event.
00:31:27.660 Buzzing in my ear about the boring people at your office.
00:31:30.740 I'm trying to listen to the new human events with Jack Pazovic.
00:31:35.900 All right, we are back here.
00:31:37.120 Human events.
00:31:37.780 Very excited to bring on Julie Kelly, who's got a huge scoop for us up on her sub stack.
00:31:44.780 The wife of the D.C. 0.99
00:31:46.800 U.S.
00:31:47.280 journey, excuse me, U.S.
00:31:48.720 attorney has an all access White House pass.
00:31:53.240 Julie Kelly, what's going on here?
00:31:54.820 Because I was told every time we hear from Joe Biden that the Department of Justice is
00:32:00.940 completely independent of the White House.
00:32:03.720 There's no collusion.
00:32:05.180 There's no courts.
00:32:06.060 He doesn't even know where the Department of Justice is.
00:32:08.260 He doesn't even remember who the attorney general is, which honestly might be true, but
00:32:12.340 probably for other reasons.
00:32:14.620 Why is it that the wife of the D.C. 1.00
00:32:17.380 U.S.
00:32:17.800 attorney has an all access White House pass?
00:32:20.820 Can you walk us through this, please?
00:32:22.920 Such a good question.
00:32:24.160 So one would have to assume that Fatima Gossgraves, who also is the CEO and president of a very 0.68
00:32:30.420 well-funded $100 million nonprofit called the National Women's Law Center, why she has 0.74
00:32:37.260 visited the White House now on record 28 times since Joe Biden was elected or became president.
00:32:45.420 Her invitation to the White House increased exponentially, as I write in my piece on my
00:32:52.320 sub-stack, declassified with Julie Kelly, after her husband, Matthew Graves, was confirmed
00:32:58.360 by the Senate in November of 2021.
00:33:01.080 She has attended high-level events with the president, with Dr. Jill, with Kamala Harris.
00:33:07.460 She has met at least on three occasions with one of Kamala Harris's top advisors.
00:33:13.360 Kamala Harris's niece, Mina, is on the board of directors for Fatima Gossgraves' nonprofit.
00:33:19.720 So you could see the swampy aspect of this.
00:33:23.920 But why is Fatima Gossgraves, when her husband is the lead prosecutor, continuing to round
00:33:29.920 up Trump supporters for a four-hour disturbance that occurred two and a half years ago, criminally
00:33:34.360 charging them, criminally charging people like Steve Bannon?
00:33:37.520 Why has his wife now visited the White House on average once a month since the beginning
00:33:43.680 of Biden's presidency?
00:33:45.600 So I pose those questions in my piece on my sub-stack and suggest that House Republicans,
00:33:51.520 who now want to talk to Matt Graves after the IRS whistleblower said that he declined to prosecute
00:33:58.360 Hunter Biden for tax crimes committed in 2014 and 2015 in Washington, D.C.
00:34:04.040 According to that IRS whistleblower, Matthew Graves made that decision in March of 2022.
00:34:10.260 That month, according to White House visitor logs, his wife visited the White House five
00:34:14.400 times.
00:34:15.680 Is she discussing this criminal investigation with anyone at the White House?
00:34:19.900 Is this a quid pro quo, a way to reward Matthew Graves for continuing to round up and criminally
00:34:26.240 charge Trump supporters and Trump advisors?
00:34:28.680 I think if Matthew Graves sits before a House committee, as Republicans want, they should
00:34:35.840 also ask him those questions.
00:34:39.120 Well, I think that's exactly right.
00:34:40.220 And this is something where House Republicans clearly have the ability to come in and put
00:34:45.900 pressure and just shine a light on what exactly is going on in this situation.
00:34:49.400 Because, Julie, and as you've reported, we were told again and again that Matthew Graves
00:34:54.020 is completely independent, that the Department of Justice is completely independent.
00:34:58.220 All of these investigations, whether it be Hunter Biden, whether it be Donald Trump, which
00:35:01.980 of course is going to come up in Jack Smith, I want to ask you about that in a minute, but
00:35:05.640 and of course the January 6th defendants and detainees, all of this being done by someone whose
00:35:12.980 wife is making 28 visits to the White House with a full access pass. 1.00
00:35:19.800 Look, you know, you know, my wife's been to the White House.
00:35:21.960 She was there when Trump was there, but she wasn't going 28 times.
00:35:24.620 When she was going, she was going with me to, you know, public events or, you know, official
00:35:29.480 events.
00:35:29.940 It wasn't like she was just going in for these private meetings.
00:35:32.800 And I think that's something that needs to be said as well, that when she's going in,
00:35:36.640 she's not going there for not always going for events like this.
00:35:40.160 They're going for specific meetings with members of the administration.
00:35:44.760 That's right.
00:35:45.560 And Fatima Goss-Graves has attended, as I said, events hosted by Joe Biden.
00:35:51.060 In fact, one of them, Jack, that I write about in my piece is she attended what looks like
00:35:55.460 it looks like she attended.
00:35:56.640 It was the only public event on Joe Biden's schedule, January 6th, 2023.
00:36:01.540 Joe Biden's commemorating the two-year anniversary of what happened on January 6th.
00:36:06.600 He gave away more medals, the presidential citizens medal to what I call the January 6th
00:36:12.620 celebrity cops, people like Michael Fanone, the cop turned CNN contributor, Harry Dunn,
00:36:18.240 Aquilina Gunnell, Daniel Hodges, people who not only are central to promoting the narrative
00:36:25.520 about January 6th, but people, individuals who Fatima Goss-Graves' husband, Matthew, uses
00:36:32.460 as prep in, say, sentencing hearings.
00:36:37.100 He has allowed these very same police officers to give victim impact statements demanding harsh
00:36:42.600 prison sentences for anyone convicted or pleading guilty to attacking police officers.
00:36:49.460 So why is she sitting in the audience for an event on the subject matter that her husband
00:36:56.740 is responsible for, you know, this is the sort of thing that, regardless of where you are
00:37:02.960 on the political spectrum, that sort of quid pro quo, that sort of tight connection between
00:37:09.900 what is supposed to be an independent department of justice and the top officials in the White
00:37:15.380 House, including the president himself, those are, you know, sort of alarming revelations,
00:37:21.560 I think, and it's sort of stunning that the media hasn't found this out themselves, that
00:37:27.220 I was the one to just glance at the White House visitor's log and shockingly saw her name
00:37:32.620 at least two dozen times.
00:37:35.160 You know, Julie, I made that same comment to somebody earlier today.
00:37:38.660 We were going through some of these questions earlier in the show about the RNC and the delegate
00:37:45.280 apportion process and some of the personalities involved and who ran for what at different times
00:37:51.020 and some of the fault lines there and the personalities.
00:37:54.440 And it really goes to what you just said there, that don't you think that if you, that in a
00:37:59.280 normal world, in a sane world, you know, wouldn't the Washington Post be all over this kind
00:38:04.020 of stuff?
00:38:04.760 Wouldn't this be the kind of thing that they're actually supposed to be doing on a regular basis
00:38:09.720 instead of doxing Trump supporters and harassing people?
00:38:13.580 This is the sort of actual political peeling back the layers of examining corruption, examining
00:38:19.500 what our government is up to on a regular basis that you wonder, why does it fall to?
00:38:24.300 I mean, don't get me wrong.
00:38:25.420 I mean, I'm very glad, you know, it gives me something to do because I'm not really sure
00:38:29.420 what I'd be talking about otherwise.
00:38:30.980 But doesn't it blow your mind that there's no one else out there talking about it?
00:38:35.580 Meanwhile, you've got guys like Ryan Riley who go all in with sedition hunters and now
00:38:40.340 gets rewarded with a job on NBC.
00:38:42.020 Right, and I mean, there's no doubt that these January 6th reporters know who Fatima Goss
00:38:50.700 Graves is.
00:38:51.780 They certainly have to understand her access to the White House.
00:38:55.560 I even report that it looks like both Fatima and Matthew Graves attended Biden's 4th of July
00:39:01.100 barbecue at the White House last year.
00:39:03.460 I mean, this is, at the very least, should be something that the press should be exposing
00:39:11.280 as flying in the face of both the insistence by Joe Biden and certainly by Merrick Garland
00:39:17.820 that his Department of Justice is independent from influence in the White House.
00:39:22.860 And this is proof positive that that simply is untrue.
00:39:27.240 And I'll tell you, since my story posted yesterday, I have heard cricket from January 6th corporate
00:39:33.540 reporters who certainly cover my work and know this and should be alarmed that the lead federal
00:39:39.060 prosecutor, a Biden appointee, that his wife has such access and influence within the White 0.98
00:39:47.800 House and what information she might be sending them, what information she might be getting and
00:39:53.760 passing along to her husband.
00:39:55.180 Now, of course, this is all speculation, but look, when you're talking about the most corrupt
00:39:59.960 Department of Justice in history, when you're talking about unprecedented charges, FBI raids
00:40:06.200 of a former president, bringing criminal charges on ridiculous counts, such as the Espionage
00:40:12.240 Act, and keeping all of this under seal, by the way, there is no one in this Department
00:40:17.900 of Justice or White House who should be trusted.
00:40:21.920 And one man who should be questioned is right there, Merrick Garland, Lisa Monaco, his deputy,
00:40:27.700 and certainly Matthew Graves, about his apparent conduit between him and the Biden White House.
00:40:38.260 No, I think you're absolutely right.
00:40:40.340 This is the same type of revolving door, the same type of personal relationships leveraged into political
00:40:50.080 opportunism and in some and in cases, lawfare, as we saw back during the Obama administration.
00:40:57.480 And you know who it reminds me of? Bruce Orr and Nellie Orr. One had a relationship who
00:41:03.580 was in government. One had a relationship that was outside of government, but was also
00:41:08.400 tied to politics. Isn't it? It's the same. And Julie, you were one of the few, the people
00:41:12.600 who just dug in on it and exposed the way they were able to use this relationship as a go-between
00:41:20.540 for various entities and various interests. Oh, I'm not working with the Department of Justice.
00:41:27.480 We don't work with the DNC. Oh, I work with the DNC. We don't work with the Department of
00:41:30.640 Justice. We're not cloning. Yeah, but you're married. You're married. We can see you're
00:41:34.440 clearly working together. You're clearly talking to each other. It's ridiculous. Julie, we're
00:41:37.860 coming to a break. Can I hold you over? Because I need to go through more of this because I think
00:41:41.720 you're onto it. This is how DC works. It's how they've always been running this stuff. It's been
00:41:46.760 working this way for a long time. But fortunately, we've got folks like the intrepid Julie Kelly 0.96
00:41:51.700 to break it down for all of us. When I grew up in the hood, I rolled with bloods. And them boys
00:42:00.380 had a saying. You can't be listening to all that slappy whack, trimatozolitzabam ship, nippy
00:42:06.080 bam bam, like Human Events with Jack Posobiec. All right, back to Human Events, Jack Posobiec. Here
00:42:13.500 we go, guys. So Julie Kelly, when we were in here last, we were just talking about how the
00:42:19.100 oars and now the graves, this DC power couple, right, seems to be working on the left. But
00:42:27.100 there's another DC power couple that's been involved in lawfare, and that's Jack Smith and
00:42:32.780 his wife, isn't it? Tell me about Jack Smith and his wife.
00:42:37.240 So Jack Smith is the special counsel who was appointed by Mayor Garland in November of 2022
00:42:42.620 to give the fake impression that the DOJ was going to be independent related to the investigations
00:42:47.720 into Donald Trump for classified documents and the events of January 6. Jack Smith has
00:42:53.380 a spotty, to put a kindly prosecutorial record. I think he was overturned twice by the Supreme
00:43:00.260 Court. He had mistrials and other political cases. Nonetheless, his wife, Kate, was one of
00:43:06.380 the producers on the documentary for Michelle Obama. It is reported that she also donated
00:43:13.380 to Democrats, I believe even Joe Biden. So here, once again, we have a Democratic power couple
00:43:20.040 put in a huge position of unaccountable authority, by the way, especially Jack Smith, seeing him
00:43:27.080 right there. And so, you know, again, you know, I think Washington, D.C. is not so much a swamp
00:43:35.580 as it is a trailer park, because it just seems like, you know, they swap out partners and swap
00:43:40.720 out offices and swap out, you know, all sorts of interesting locations and partnership, especially
00:43:50.000 when it comes to the Department of Justice, as you pointed out, Bruce and Nelly, or both tied
00:43:54.980 to Glenn Simpson at Fusion GPS, and of course, their good friend, Christopher Steele.
00:44:01.440 Well, and so, Julie, here's what I've got to ask you as well. Number one, okay, was this
00:44:07.600 Fatima Graves, was she the drug dealer that happened to leave that cocaine in the library? 1.00
00:44:13.660 Yes or no? What do we think?
00:44:16.060 I'm going to say no. She does not seem like the sort to me, although I wouldn't be surprised
00:44:22.240 if the Biden's threw her under the bus or anyone to protect, you know, the very likely
00:44:26.700 culprit, the owner of that cocaine.
00:44:29.700 Oh, come on. We all know that we all know that Hunter just goes in the library to brush
00:44:34.380 up on his Roosevelt, the rough rider, Spanish American word. That's what he was doing in
00:44:38.940 the library. But Julie, in all seriousness, there are a lot of updates going on in the Jack
00:44:44.700 Smith case, or potentially cases against Trump. You've been consistently ahead of the mainstream
00:44:51.700 media. Because I go to Drudge Report to see what the left is talking about. And all of
00:44:56.280 a sudden, they have this big breaking alarm headline, superseding indictment. Donald Trump,
00:45:02.000 they're looking at January 6th and said, wait a minute, Julie Kelly was on the show weeks
00:45:05.060 ago. And that's exactly what she said. You need to be listening to human events and need
00:45:09.480 to be following Julie Kelly on Substack. So break down what is the latest on the superseding
00:45:14.020 indictment and the new redactions or unredactions in the classified intel case?
00:45:19.160 So a couple of things happening in this case, the judge magistrate judge, who, by the way,
00:45:24.140 was the one who signed off on the search warrant, which resulted in the raid of Mar-a-Lago last
00:45:28.660 August, he has allowed for some redactions to be or some of the redactions to be unsealed in
00:45:35.420 that extremely lengthy, highly redacted affidavit that was filed for the search warrant. And this
00:45:41.540 is in response to the press coalition, which is a group of major news organizations who have
00:45:47.620 been filing motions in both this case and also many January 6th cases, wanting some of these sealed
00:45:54.640 orders and some of these sealed hearings to be made public. So this was in response, it was only a
00:46:00.560 partial redaction. So that's happening. Also Judge Cannon, Aileen Cannon, the Trump-appointed judge who
00:46:07.360 did authorize the appointment of a special master in this case because she does not trust the Department
00:46:11.880 of Justice. She authorized a special master in this case last September. Unfortunately, her order was
00:46:18.020 overturned on appeal in December. Nonetheless, she set a very tight trial schedule, hoping to bring this
00:46:25.280 case, or at least that was her original plan, in August. DOJ filed a motion asking to delay the trial
00:46:33.160 until December, really based on the need for security clearances for both Trump and Walt Nata,
00:46:39.640 the man who is charged with conspiring with Trump to obstruct justice, their need to get secured security
00:46:46.660 clearances in the next 45 to 60 days. But Jack, the superseding indictment, and I've watched this
00:46:52.800 over and over in January 6th cases, Jack Smith very likely will file what's called a superseding
00:46:58.680 indictment. And that will either add charges and or add co-defendants in the sitting in the existing
00:47:05.620 criminal indictment, 37 count felony indictment against Donald Trump. That will further delay the
00:47:12.780 trial into 2024, which is what Jack Smith and the Department of Justice wants. On the flip side,
00:47:20.720 we are still sitting here waiting for what will be an even bigger bombshell criminal indictment,
00:47:26.060 a multi-count felony criminal indictment against Donald Trump for the events of January 6th,
00:47:30.600 alongside other co-defendants, probably some of his former attorneys, could be some of his aides,
00:47:37.100 associates in the White House. And that will be the biggest, pose the biggest legal hazard for
00:47:43.040 Donald Trump, because one of those counts could be seditious conspiracy. And when defendants have been
00:47:49.220 charged with seditious conspiracy, the government, this DOJ has sought pre-trial detention for those
00:47:54.840 accused of that crime, which is tantamount to treason.
00:47:59.600 Do you think, do you think they would actually seek, and I'll just be blunt, do you actually think
00:48:04.460 that they would try to put Donald Trump behind bars if they charge him with this?
00:48:08.040 I actually do, because I've seen how this DC, not just this Department of Justice, but I see how the
00:48:15.680 judges on the DC District Court have handled these cases. They have held, Jack, nonviolent defenders,
00:48:23.460 nonviolent protesters behind bars for two years awaiting trial. They do not care about the
00:48:29.620 constitutional rights of these Trump supporters and January 6th protesters. You think all of a sudden
00:48:34.960 the rules are not going to apply. This is the whole point of creating this case law precedent,
00:48:40.360 this precedence for not only holding people behind bars on seditious conspiracy, but obstruction of
00:48:45.640 an official proceeding. That is definitely a felony count that will be brought against Donald Trump.
00:48:51.060 You now have precedent of judges denying release of nonviolent protesters accused of obstruction.
00:49:00.700 So this is the sort of thing that Jack Smith could prepare in a pretrial detention motion presented
00:49:06.980 to one of these DC District Court judges inciting numerous precedents, numerous cases where judges
00:49:14.560 have signed off on pretrial detention, meaning denying bail until the defendant can go to trial.
00:49:20.500 I would not put anything past this DOJ, Jack Smith, or certainly any judge on the DC District Court.
00:49:27.080 The great Julie Kelly. We're just about out of time on the show. Go and follow Julie Kelly on
00:49:32.800 Substack. We want to pump those Substack numbers. We're going to share the link down. Julie,
00:49:37.700 thank you so much for your time today here at Human Events. Thanks, Jack.
00:49:41.880 All right, folks, we have, we knocked it out of the park with Sound of Freedom. Continue
00:49:45.480 going to see that, but we need to keep fighting. Ladies and gentlemen, as always,
00:49:49.180 we have, if you have permission to lay ashore.