Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - July 10, 2023


EPISODE 513： US STOCKPILES RUNNING LOW AS UKRAINE WAR DRAGS ON


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Jack Posobiec talks about the new movie The Sound of Freedom and why it s so important to see it in theaters. Jack also talks about Ron DeSantis and why he thinks he s running for President in 2020.

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00:01:09.020 We are in a fifth generational conflict.
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00:01:22.380 Truths.
00:01:23.140 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:01:26.420 Christ is king.
00:01:27.220 We either have the weapons to stop the Russians now from their, keep them from stopping the Ukrainian offensive through these areas, or they don't. 0.76
00:01:38.060 And I think they needed them.
00:01:39.500 There is nothing controversial about it.
00:01:41.380 We are fighting on our territory, brutal enemy.
00:01:44.320 There is nothing worse than tortures, rapes, and everything that Russians do on the territories they occupy. 1.00
00:01:51.220 And we need to liberate as quick as possible.
00:01:53.240 The Iranians are providing the Russians critical drones and munitions for their aggression in Ukraine.
00:01:59.840 China have this stranglehold on a lot of critical minerals, and they just blocked the export of two of them that are really essential for computer chips.
00:02:08.960 Is this a warning shot?
00:02:10.520 My purpose is to make sure that we don't engage in a series of unintended escalatory actions.
00:02:19.560 There is a plan and a path forward, and as long as we sustain our bipartisan support for it, I think there is a clear path to transition away from what is currently a dangerous dependency on China.
00:02:30.940 Ron DeSantis asked to get this down to a two-person race.
00:02:33.700 I said, he has no comment. That means he's running.
00:02:37.420 I said, that son of a f*** is running. 1.00
00:02:40.380 I got him elected. 0.99
00:02:42.460 So I'm not a big fan of his, and he's highly overrated.
00:02:46.660 The Sound of Freedom does focus on a real issue of sex trafficking.
00:02:51.060 But that theme, it's sort of like that kernel of truth that feeds the QAnon conspiracy theory. 0.90
00:02:58.140 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:03:04.060 Today is July 10th, 2023.
00:03:06.160 Anno Domini.
00:03:06.920 Human Events coming in hot like cluster munitions.
00:03:10.080 We're going to have Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer on later in the program to walk us through that.
00:03:15.280 The cluster munitions, which used to be a war crime, but now they're totally fine. 0.99
00:03:19.940 Why?
00:03:20.520 Because Ukraine is doing it. 0.98
00:03:22.440 Well, you know what else is coming in hot?
00:03:24.600 They came in hot all weekend.
00:03:25.900 I have to give a huge thank you to everybody out there within the sound of my voice, from the bottom of my heart.
00:03:32.940 Thank you for going to see The Sound of Freedom.
00:03:36.560 We've been promoting this film nonstop here on Human Events.
00:03:41.100 We knew that it would take off.
00:03:42.820 We knew that it would be supported.
00:03:44.560 When I first saw the trailer for this thing, I said, get me in touch with these guys.
00:03:48.860 Because this is the new movie that we all need to get behind.
00:03:53.160 $40 million.
00:03:59.040 It's now made $40 million in just its first week alone.
00:04:03.680 For the theaters that are out there, for the people who have gone to see it, I know there were AC issues in some theaters.
00:04:10.500 There were electrical issues.
00:04:11.780 We were taking all sorts of questions.
00:04:13.760 It was a hot weekend, especially on the East Coast.
00:04:16.440 I was out in the East Coast with my kids, Tanya Tay, over the weekend.
00:04:21.940 We were playing in one of the rivers.
00:04:23.760 We were doing some river panning for gold.
00:04:27.320 Funny enough, Tanya knows what I mean by that.
00:04:29.860 But no, we were having fun with the kids.
00:04:32.040 But it was hot.
00:04:32.740 And so a lot of theaters were having issues with their ACs.
00:04:36.420 We got in touch with the theaters.
00:04:38.180 The people behind Sound of Freedom have gotten in touch with the theaters.
00:04:40.700 And we are going to do everything we can to make sure that everybody who had a theater that was shut down because of AC issues is going to get a voucher.
00:04:49.920 They will be able to see their movie.
00:04:53.380 Also, by the way, I know I said it on Friday.
00:04:57.820 We have to frog stomp it again.
00:05:00.320 Silver chair reference.
00:05:01.840 This weekend, West Palm Beach, Turning Point Action.
00:05:05.960 We will have the movie.
00:05:08.120 It will be screened there in full, as far as I know.
00:05:12.320 We also have Tim Ballard, who's going to be speaking.
00:05:15.060 The man the movie is based on, the inspiration, and we are – I can't give out all the information just yet.
00:05:23.020 We're working very hard to bring in, let's just say, other people associated with the film as well.
00:05:29.100 Now, as we saw also over the weekend, Mel Gibson, who was a big part in promoting this movie.
00:05:35.600 He was a consultant in some of the final edits when they were putting it together for Sound of Freedom.
00:05:40.720 He had a meeting with Roger Stone and Donald Trump behind the scenes there at the UFC this weekend.
00:05:48.760 A lot of talk going on, what's happening with Mel Gibson.
00:05:52.120 We've got – don't worry.
00:05:53.100 We've got the inside story.
00:05:54.640 We've got the inside story.
00:05:57.240 But stay tuned, folks, because what we're going to be putting together here on Human Events, what we're doing going forward, we're just getting started.
00:06:05.100 We're just getting started on all this.
00:06:06.840 If you think that Sound of Freedom was just a movie, if you think you're just going to see it once and that's the end, no.
00:06:12.640 We are going to continue this momentum forward.
00:06:15.340 We're already planning things for September, for later this year, things that I can't even announce yet.
00:06:20.440 But stay tuned because today on the show, we have to get into all the latest with Ukraine, the NATO summit.
00:06:27.560 Everything that's going on in Europe, which is now affecting us and apparently leading to ammunition stockpile shortages for the United States military.
00:06:39.680 We don't have the weapons to keep Americans safe.
00:06:42.900 I remember there was a president who said that manufacturing in steel was, you know, something like a national security issue and people mocked him.
00:06:51.160 Lieutenant Colonel Schaefer joins us next.
00:06:53.760 We're also going to talk about green tech and the complete collapse later in the show.
00:06:57.300 Stay tuned as Human Events continues.
00:06:59.540 Don't go anywhere.
00:07:02.220 I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:07:05.500 All right, Human Events.
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00:08:17.400 Welcome back to the show, Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer.
00:08:21.440 Tony, I got to ask, man, Wall Street Journal, huge headline this morning.
00:08:26.700 They're dropping it out there.
00:08:27.800 Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin spokesman, comes out publicly, shocks the entire media by saying not only did Pregosian not go to Belarus like they all claimed,
00:08:41.160 they just said that, in fact, he's been having private meetings with Putin.
00:08:45.880 Now, we had all these people like the last time we were on here, like Jennifer Rubin and Malcolm Nance and others, and they were telling us that this was a civil war.
00:08:55.280 Well, what kind of civil war do they have where it's, you know, it's a instead of, you know, Gettysburg and Appomattox, they're just walking into the, you know, the main headquarters and shaking hands and talking.
00:09:05.280 Tony, why did the media get this so wrong?
00:09:07.600 And can you tell, give us your assessment of what's actually happening?
00:09:11.680 Well, look, I'll be right up front.
00:09:12.880 I am mystified, as most others, about what is actually going on.
00:09:16.720 I always refer back to the Cold War.
00:09:19.320 The Russians, for better or for worse, were masters of deception. 1.00
00:09:23.280 Jack, you and I have a counterintelligence and foreign intelligence background.
00:09:27.080 One of the things during the Cold War the Russians were very good at is essentially sending in walk-ins. 0.73
00:09:33.720 You know, we were trained to deal with walk-ins. 0.72
00:09:36.220 That is to say, people who pretend to be or are leaving their side, in this case, Russia, coming in to say, hey, we want to spy for you.
00:09:44.580 We have information critical.
00:09:46.660 And there's ample evidence that something was going on.
00:09:49.800 And I think Purgosian did have contact with U.S. intelligence in some form before he did what he did.
00:09:56.260 The question becomes, did he try to actually deceive the U.S. and West, saying that he's going to lead this revolution and see who came out and wanted to support it?
00:10:05.160 Obviously, we do know that the Gang of Eight, the intelligence folks of both House and Senate, were briefed by the Biden administration on something before Purgosian did what he did.
00:10:15.820 The question becomes, did Purgosian approach them and say, have I got a deal for you if you pay me?
00:10:21.440 I'm going to lead a revolution against Putin.
00:10:24.200 Come along with me.
00:10:25.560 I think that's a distinct possibility based on the amount of secrecy that surrounds whatever was going on.
00:10:31.440 I don't know that.
00:10:33.020 But what is important is to acknowledge when we don't know something and start providing or projecting aspirations onto the audience.
00:10:43.560 We all have responsibilities.
00:10:44.820 I run think tanks.
00:10:46.000 You're a member of the media.
00:10:47.160 I think we owe it to the American people, an honest answer or an honest I don't know.
00:10:53.580 Instead, I've seen members of the on the left side, left wing media project their aspirations.
00:10:58.680 And I remember back when this started, you had the two names that I think we often mentioned, Malcolm Nance, Jennifer Rubens, to name a couple who were saying, oh, this is the beginning of the end for Putin.
00:11:10.080 And it's all over.
00:11:11.240 There's going to be a mass revolution.
00:11:12.660 And we you know, we think that Purgosian is going to replace Putin.
00:11:17.140 And first off, if that was true, Purgosian is, I think, if not as aggressive, he's probably more aggressive.
00:11:24.520 He was arguing for a more severe, more aggressive approach to taking out the Ukrainian forces and Donbass.
00:11:32.400 The other members who would have joined him on this would have been more severe, more aggressive.
00:11:37.320 So the idea of replacing Putin with with with Purgosian or others was never something I thought was a good idea just because, you know, I don't think you want to see that level of chaos.
00:11:48.400 The other thing to remember, if it was true, if Purgosian really was trying to take out Putin, Jack, you and I both know we don't want Russia to become, quote unquote, ungoverned, ungoverned space, especially in something as big as Russia with nuclear weapons could be tragic.
00:12:05.500 One of the things that I and some other folks have looked at is loose nuclear weapons.
00:12:11.700 The moment you have an arsenal the size of Russia left somewhat ungoverned, unrestricted, you could have nuclear weapons going loose, which we don't want.
00:12:25.020 Even if you only had one or two percent of the nuclear arsenal left into the hands of oligarchs and criminals, you don't want nuclear weapons being sold in the black market.
00:12:36.760 It would result in some very bad things.
00:12:38.600 So the aspirations of the left to see Putin dethroned and the potential chaos it would would cause is not something in anybody's interest.
00:12:46.180 So I always caution people on projecting their aspirations rather than reporting on the facts or simply saying we don't understand something, which in this case, I think most of us are saying we didn't know, but it looked like this.
00:12:59.260 And one last point.
00:13:00.960 We do not.
00:13:02.340 We, the United States, do not necessarily understand how they do business within the Russian Republic as it is.
00:13:11.320 It is not truly a democracy. 0.92
00:13:13.080 It's a bunch of criminals, thugs, oligarchs who basically have a country that they use for their own purposes. 0.73
00:13:21.720 And I've said a number of times that this is more like the Tony Soprano, the Sopranos meets the Hunt for Red October regarding how they do business.
00:13:31.220 And it's something that's different than our system.
00:13:33.540 We cannot project our system onto their system and somehow try to make sense of it.
00:13:37.860 It just will never work.
00:13:38.860 Now, I've got to ask you this, this other piece, and I think you're exactly right.
00:13:43.680 This is one of those things where these are just known unknowns.
00:13:46.200 And we need to acknowledge that because sometimes that's part of the game.
00:13:49.620 That's part of the business has been for a long time.
00:13:52.220 But this is also a great reason why we shouldn't get involved in a place where there are so many known unknowns.
00:13:58.440 And there are so many, and when we, one of the, one of the knowns in all of this is obviously the threat of nuclear war with the world's largest superpower.
00:14:08.040 They have more nukes than we do.
00:14:08.960 On the flip side of that, there's two pieces that have come up just in the last 24 to 48 hours.
00:14:15.020 Last week, we talk about the fact that Biden is now sending cluster munitions to Ukraine to replace, essentially, their artillery shells, if I understand that correctly, because they're completely out.
00:14:25.940 These are the same munitions, by the way, that the Biden administration, Jen Psaki, we played the clip, had referred to previously as a war crime early on in this conflict.
00:14:36.400 Now, with the same idea, this is mission creep, this is escalation.
00:14:40.400 Now, we're doing it, and in a sense, you've got Jack Kirby up there saying, oh, it's okay because they did it too.
00:14:44.920 See, the Russians did it first, so it's okay if the U.S. does it. 0.99
00:14:47.840 It's war crimes when they do it, but it's perfectly fine when we do it. 1.00
00:14:50.280 Now, in D.C., they call it the interagency consensus, but now it's the will of the international community.
00:14:58.360 This is the rules-based order.
00:14:59.460 It's the rules-based order using cluster munitions.
00:15:02.340 When the rules-based order uses cluster munitions, it's totally different.
00:15:06.880 But my question to you as well is there's also now an issue of us saying, oh, we need to ramp up our capacity.
00:15:13.800 That's not how that works, is it?
00:15:16.600 No.
00:15:17.240 So let's go through and break this out, and I appreciate the way you framed it.
00:15:20.280 First off, there's been 41 acknowledged draws from our global forward-positioned stocks of ammunition that are there for us to go to war with a variety of potential enemies.
00:15:32.620 Jack, those are supposed to be there for the purposes of our military forces showing up at a location, being able to draw rapidly,
00:15:40.800 and have at least 30 days of weapons available to go fully into combat with a near peer.
00:15:47.160 41 draws is not a good thing.
00:15:49.460 As a matter of fact, I think it's closer to 50.
00:15:51.520 They've only acknowledged 41.
00:15:52.940 I think they've drawn to the point of where we basically have no wartime stock left, and that's a dangerous position for us to be in.
00:15:59.700 If we're actually thinking about trying to challenge the Chinese if something happens in Taiwan, there's other things that could happen in the Middle East.
00:16:06.540 I think we're in a very dangerous time, and my concern should be always, can we provide the men and women of the American military sufficient military force and ammunition to prevail?
00:16:19.780 And I'm skeptical at this point.
00:16:22.020 Joe Biden himself acknowledged this.
00:16:24.760 Now Joe has actually said, you know, Joe Biden has said, we have a critical lack of availability of wartime supplies.
00:16:33.800 That's significant.
00:16:35.080 And I think it's dangerous.
00:16:36.780 He actually said this publicly.
00:16:38.460 It's one thing for you and I to speculate.
00:16:40.100 Another thing for the president to say it is a matter of policy.
00:16:43.000 So that's the first part of this.
00:16:44.360 Secondly, that acknowledgement does mean that we do not have the industrial capacity to rapidly build and supply common everyday munitions.
00:16:57.300 105 millimeter rounds are completely gone at this point from everything I say.
00:17:01.600 And that's why, as a matter of desperation, Jack, they're now saying they want to use these cluster bombs.
00:17:06.920 Now let's talk about cluster munitions.
00:17:09.200 I, for one, do not see the tactical benefit of using these things.
00:17:14.000 In Operation Darkheart, in my first book, Operation Darkheart, there's a, I think we documented in there,
00:17:19.960 where we were on a combat convoy coming back from Kabul on the new Russian road.
00:17:27.340 And on this, we were returning from supporting an NSA mission, which I can't get into, but you could probably figure out what we were doing.
00:17:33.760 The FBI vehicle has a flat.
00:17:37.720 And so during, and these things are high speed convoys.
00:17:40.460 We're doing between 80 to 100 because we're unarmored vehicles going as fast as we can to avoid any potential for someone setting off an IED and taking out vehicles.
00:17:48.980 One of the vehicles has a flat tire, the FBI vehicle.
00:17:52.580 We pull over to the side and we set a perimeter.
00:17:55.320 You've done this.
00:17:55.960 We do set up a perimeter around the vehicles as they change the tire.
00:17:59.880 I take the point since I'm combat commander.
00:18:01.960 I walk up to the front of the FBI vehicle to take the point.
00:18:05.320 As I'm walking up, Jack, just past the vehicle, about 10 feet is an unexploded cluster of munition from, that we dropped.
00:18:14.340 Had the vehicle, had the FBI vehicle gone 10 more feet, it would have hit it and it would have completely destroyed the vehicle, resulting in the loss of at least four FBI agents.
00:18:24.460 So I'm just telling you, based on my own personal experience, you can never ensure that all these things are going to be command detonated after they're supposed to be used.
00:18:34.380 It's a very dangerous add to the war.
00:18:36.980 And secondly, I'm sorry, the White House has never told us the Russians have been using cluster of munitions to any great degree until now.
00:18:43.660 All of a sudden, when it's convenient, oh yeah, they've been using them.
00:18:46.940 Really?
00:18:47.680 You guys have shouted every other issue.
00:18:49.740 Tony, we've got a quick break here.
00:18:52.000 I want to put a quick pause in you.
00:18:54.060 We're going to come right back.
00:18:55.040 I want to hear all of this human events beyond the break.
00:18:57.720 This is huge.
00:19:00.820 All right, we're back here.
00:19:01.800 Human events, Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer.
00:19:03.440 Tony, you were walking us through this crazy story, basically, where you almost had a near encounter, I should say, close encounters of the explosive kind with a cluster munition.
00:19:19.740 Fortunately, by a completely sideways situation, you weren't harmed, obviously, and you're here able to tell the story to us.
00:19:28.220 But walk us through this pernicious use of them on the battlefield.
00:19:31.620 Well, we did use them in Afghanistan.
00:19:34.520 And again, let me be very clear on this.
00:19:37.440 We have options, better options for precision strike against specific military targets, especially down to individuals.
00:19:48.360 Cluster munitions are unguided.
00:19:51.000 They are not something that's controlled.
00:19:53.320 And Jake Sullivan alluded to the fact that there's a 2% to 3% dud rate.
00:19:57.140 What he means is that it's not duds.
00:19:59.840 Because they're still sitting there and ready to be exploded.
00:20:03.960 It's just they're not, you cannot remotely command detonate them.
00:20:07.960 The theory is that once you use these things, you drop it, you use it for a certain amount of time.
00:20:12.960 You set off a command to blow themselves up.
00:20:16.660 About 2% or 3% don't.
00:20:18.060 And they sit there.
00:20:18.800 And that's what would happen with me in Afghanistan.
00:20:20.580 So, again, just to recap, we were on a combat convoy.
00:20:26.160 One of the vehicles, the FBI vehicle, blew a tire.
00:20:28.740 We had to pull over to change the tire.
00:20:30.680 We set up security.
00:20:32.100 And I recognize, since I took the point, that there was a number of these unexploded U.S.
00:20:36.780 designed and deployed cluster munitions on the battlefield in Afghanistan.
00:20:40.940 This is 2003.
00:20:42.640 And had that vehicle, the FBI vehicle, had to come off the road and went just 10 feet further,
00:20:47.700 it would have hit one of these things and blown up.
00:20:49.880 Again, fratricide.
00:20:51.740 So, based on my own personal experience, I know that even one or two of these things
00:20:56.600 will do great damage to either light-skinned or no-skinned targets,
00:21:01.440 where you actually have the potential of either killing your own forces, 0.95
00:21:05.140 killing civilians, killing children.
00:21:07.200 It's just not a good idea. 0.99
00:21:09.420 And the idea here is that that's all we have left to give the Ukrainians. 0.99
00:21:13.060 Indicates to me that we've depleted our wartime stocks to the point of where
00:21:17.060 we are, as a military force, combat non-effective.
00:21:21.880 And that's something that should frighten everybody.
00:21:25.960 Yeah.
00:21:26.920 No, I agree.
00:21:27.940 I just wanted to read something for you.
00:21:29.340 So, Congressman Rokohana, who's a man of the left,
00:21:32.580 has put this tweet up this morning.
00:21:34.460 And it shocked me when I read this.
00:21:36.560 He said,
00:21:38.020 The fact that we do, because he's basing on this,
00:21:40.240 the fact that we do not have enough conventional artillery to send Ukraine 0.98
00:21:43.640 should be a wake-up call.
00:21:45.260 Most of the top 15 steel producers now are Chinese.
00:21:50.400 They're located in the People's Republic of China.
00:21:53.480 And we don't have a single one.
00:21:55.300 The U.S. urgently needs a strategy to become a manufacturing superpower.
00:22:00.340 And there's a response to it from, I love these, I love the Anons. 1.00
00:22:04.760 I love the Anons.
00:22:05.920 Carolina Lion responds.
00:22:08.020 Well, it takes about four to five years to build a factory in the United States.
00:22:12.560 That's under best circumstances.
00:22:13.880 Got to thank the EPA for that.
00:22:15.660 Then you need coal to fire up the steel furnaces.
00:22:19.140 Democrats have been waging war on that for a decade.
00:22:21.260 Then you need railroads, roads, a fleet of trucks.
00:22:24.100 You need trains, mills to haul out the product.
00:22:26.880 Democrats have been waging war on those industries too.
00:22:29.360 And you need clean and reliable electricity.
00:22:32.120 Solar and wind will not cut it.
00:22:33.980 That means either coal, natural gas, hydroelectric, and possibly nuclear.
00:22:38.560 All industries that the Democrats wage resources on.
00:22:41.760 This is what's needed to make this kind of industry profitable in the United States.
00:22:46.180 Yet they've been attacked by the policies of the Democrats and the federal government
00:22:49.580 for 30 years.
00:22:50.860 And we ask, why are all these industries moving to China at the same time that we're
00:22:56.500 allowing China to dump their cheap steel in the U.S. market?
00:23:02.660 Look, Tony, I just got to say, this is what Donald Trump said.
00:23:05.820 He said that it was a national security issue.
00:23:08.200 And now we're seeing exactly what he meant when he said that steel and manufacturing were
00:23:13.560 national security issues.
00:23:14.840 And here we are embarked in a war of a crusade of adventure, if you will, in a proxy war against
00:23:21.560 the Russians.
00:23:22.000 And guess what?
00:23:23.040 Turns out that we're running up against cold, hard reality smacking us in the face.
00:23:29.000 It's true.
00:23:29.860 Now, so Russia never gave up its Cold War structure regarding factories.
00:23:35.520 And that's one of the things that's benefiting Putin.
00:23:37.240 Now, Putin Putin can produce literally tens of thousands of rounds on a routine basis.
00:23:43.760 And let's all be very honest about this.
00:23:46.440 Putin made huge mistakes in his initial entry into Ukraine.
00:23:49.240 He thought it would be, you know, like like George Bush thought it would be a very short
00:23:53.140 kind of entry in Iraq and be done with it.
00:23:55.740 Putin will be welcomed as liberators.
00:23:57.660 Yeah, it did.
00:24:00.040 My personal theory, just real quick, my very personal theory is that is that they were giving
00:24:04.620 him intel that they thought he wanted, that they thought they were telling him, oh, the
00:24:08.440 Ukrainian people are are just waiting for to be liberated.
00:24:12.400 They hate this regime.
00:24:13.420 And just like George Bush and Iraq. 0.53
00:24:14.980 Absolutely.
00:24:15.760 They will, you know, they will rally behind your forces.
00:24:19.120 Zelensky will be forced to flee.
00:24:20.400 I honestly think that the people probably, whether it's FSB or GRU, were definitely giving
00:24:25.980 it because, you know, they don't want their heads cut off.
00:24:27.780 So they're giving him the intel that he wants to hear.
00:24:29.920 And he's focused on, you know, he's reading like the Ukrainian Russian history instead
00:24:35.200 of like actually finding out what's going on.
00:24:38.260 Right.
00:24:38.900 And so but after he made up for that mistake, he turned the entire Russia economy onto a 0.92
00:24:44.120 wartime footing.
00:24:44.900 They are now on a wartime footing.
00:24:46.560 They've adjusted.
00:24:47.180 They're producing all sorts of material.
00:24:49.820 They're producing probably enough ammunition that they could take and continue their current
00:24:55.240 war at the current pace for five years at minimum.
00:24:58.880 We can't.
00:24:59.800 We don't have that industry.
00:25:00.980 And to your point, the way you laid it all out and that from that tweet, we have degraded
00:25:05.540 our economy.
00:25:06.680 Jack, we actually recognize this potential back during the pandemic.
00:25:10.500 We tried to get a project off the ground with Rutgers University, not even a conservative
00:25:14.520 university, trying to examine the very issue we're talking about.
00:25:18.480 What do we need to examine and have available to us critical materials for a wartime posture?
00:25:24.840 Everybody, nobody wanted to look at that.
00:25:26.780 Nobody wanted to look at how we needed to detach from China and reestablish production primacy 0.92
00:25:33.300 within the United States.
00:25:34.500 There was just no interest, even this is during the pandemic.
00:25:36.720 So now, you know, three years later, we're looking at this from a perspective again, recognizing
00:25:42.460 that we do not have American industry available to ramp up and rapidly produce conventional
00:25:49.560 weapons.
00:25:50.120 And that's something that we should all take left and right, no matter who you are politically,
00:25:55.000 recognize that this is a critical failure of planning, of vision created by political conditions,
00:26:01.280 mostly from the left that has left us in a position of vulnerability.
00:26:04.860 Huge vulnerability at a time that we're going to be looking at potentially challenging others
00:26:09.500 regarding the Pacific.
00:26:11.280 So it's not a good situation to be in.
00:26:13.340 And I think everybody needs to take a deep breath and examine this for what it is, not
00:26:18.380 what they want it to be.
00:26:19.520 That's something necessary.
00:26:21.460 I actually, one of the pieces that I noticed in this, because to create a manufacturing base
00:26:26.880 and sustain it, you don't only need the government production, you don't just need the demand
00:26:32.160 for it, which in this case would be military, but also you need the supply you need.
00:26:38.020 And that doesn't just mean the companies with proper capitalization and profitability, which,
00:26:43.820 of course, are all key components of it.
00:26:45.840 The energy inputs is a huge line of it, but also the capacity of the workers.
00:26:50.540 So that means, look, when we started cutting down and cutting back on tech schools in the
00:26:58.300 United States, even on basic things like shop class in high school, guess what?
00:27:02.820 Russia has been investing in that.
00:27:04.980 They've been expanding theirs.
00:27:06.500 They still send their kids at the high school level to, you know, how I know this, because
00:27:10.340 I went and I asked people about this.
00:27:11.900 I found out the information like, you know, like an intel officer would.
00:27:16.200 Now they call it different things.
00:27:17.800 We don't do that in the U.S. anymore.
00:27:19.080 We don't promote these things.
00:27:20.260 Everybody wants to be a TikTok star.
00:27:22.280 Russia never stopped that. 0.79
00:27:23.740 Russia never stopped the capacity for manufacturing.
00:27:25.980 That's why they're able to go to these manufacturers now and say, you know what?
00:27:29.380 You're going to completely turn your manufacturing line over to tanks.
00:27:32.960 Meanwhile, so Russia's pumping out tanks day after day, dropping off the line.
00:27:37.920 And in the U.S., and Tony, I don't know if you saw the headline just this morning, but
00:27:41.500 with the Stinger missiles, with our Stinger missile capacity being so low, when we realized
00:27:48.700 that we didn't know how to make them anymore, they had to call in retirees from Raytheon
00:27:54.320 to come back because they didn't know how to design the nose cones anymore for the Stingers. 0.75
00:27:59.660 I'm like, this is ridiculous.
00:28:02.440 They said, well, you can't just press a button and the computer makes it for you.
00:28:05.780 It's not like 3D printed Stinger missile technology.
00:28:08.980 Right.
00:28:09.340 Exactly.
00:28:09.700 What are we doing as a country?
00:28:11.080 What are we doing?
00:28:11.900 So as a nation, during the Cold War, we actually had part of the Army looked at operational
00:28:17.480 security and basically large strategic reserve requirements.
00:28:24.580 We would and Navy worked with us very closely, by the way, because the Navy has the Marines
00:28:28.620 and has clearly the need for conventional munitions and guided munitions.
00:28:34.600 We share that.
00:28:35.360 So there was a great effort to actually work together to make sure that there was always
00:28:39.840 something available.
00:28:41.560 And then we were always looking at what was going to be the next thing to have.
00:28:45.720 We've done a great job with what I would term as surveillance.
00:28:49.740 We have been able to increase ISR, intelligence reconnaissance surveillance capabilities to a great
00:28:56.880 extent.
00:28:57.440 But what's not kept up with that, Jack, to your point, is making sure that we have munitions
00:29:02.620 which matches our ability to see and do things.
00:29:05.960 This is a very dangerous thing.
00:29:07.400 And then obviously munitions.
00:29:10.120 We had created during the past 20 years enough stocks to be available for the U.S. Army, U.S.
00:29:16.440 Marines to roll in somewhere, pick up, stock up, arm and go do something.
00:29:21.520 We now do not have that capability.
00:29:23.940 And again, this is not you and I having opinions.
00:29:26.640 This is Joe Biden as the president announcing this.
00:29:29.780 So I don't know what it's going to take.
00:29:32.600 We've always talked about no more task force Smiths.
00:29:34.840 One of the things that General Reimer did when he was chief of staff of the Army at the
00:29:38.320 end of the Cold War said, we cannot permit the attrition of resources and interest to
00:29:44.200 come to the point of where we have to launch people into combat like we did.
00:29:47.060 Task force Smith was that task force that went into Korea, South Korea, when that war
00:29:52.320 started.
00:29:52.740 And they got decimated because we weren't prepared.
00:29:54.720 So here we are again, deja vu all over again, to quote a great American baseball coach, looking
00:30:00.900 at not being prepared, being faced with challenges.
00:30:04.400 We have to accept that we do not have the military prowess to be able to deal with.
00:30:10.040 And this is a strategic failure that has not played out yet.
00:30:14.460 Something that I pray we get a handle on before we have to do something militarily.
00:30:19.680 Tony, final minute.
00:30:22.280 Where can people go to follow you?
00:30:23.760 What a great interview for the first on a Monday.
00:30:27.760 Thank you.
00:30:28.080 This is going to set the tone.
00:30:29.360 We've got the NATO summit coming up later this week, as well as turning point action in
00:30:34.500 West Palm Beach.
00:30:35.040 So they've got the summit of the globalists.
00:30:37.500 We've got the summit of the nationalists.
00:30:39.340 Tony, where can people find you?
00:30:41.240 So just londoncenter.org, projectcentral.net.
00:30:44.820 We have a wide range of things that, you know, you, Jack, you and I have conversations.
00:30:48.580 We try to educate folks on all these things.
00:30:50.320 So and watch the NATO summit really closely.
00:30:54.200 It's going to be a very interesting kind of week of intrigue, to say the least.
00:30:59.260 So thanks for having me here.
00:31:00.280 And I appreciate our conversation.
00:31:02.540 God bless.
00:31:03.200 And I do think that we need to be on the lookout for provocations.
00:31:05.820 There's there was a potential strike on the Kirch Bridge to Crimea.
00:31:09.260 There's been this talk about the nuclear plant that's Lieutenant Colonel Schaefer and I've
00:31:12.440 talked about.
00:31:13.160 Stay tuned.
00:31:13.860 And as the great Art Bell used to say, watch the skies coming back next here on human events.
00:31:21.860 We talk about more climate insanity.
00:31:25.420 My ear about the boring people at your office.
00:31:28.320 I'm trying to listen to the new human events with Jack Pazovic.
00:31:32.320 All right, folks, folks, I figured it out.
00:31:34.320 I figured it out.
00:31:34.960 All right.
00:31:35.400 You remember last week when Biden said that he was going to try to block the sun.
00:31:39.820 OK, we all thought it was crazy.
00:31:41.640 We all thought it was silly.
00:31:42.580 It's like something from The Simpsons.
00:31:43.920 But I think I figured out what's actually going on here.
00:31:46.500 He's not just trying to block the sun because for eight hours a day, he's actually going
00:31:52.280 to position the sun blocker so that it will block Putin from being able to see Ukraine.
00:31:58.960 And that's how he's going to win the war by conducting operations using the sun blocker.
00:32:05.700 It's actually a secret Ukraine blocker.
00:32:08.360 Folks, I've just I've solved the war.
00:32:11.240 I've blown the CIA operation completely.
00:32:14.480 All right.
00:32:15.120 Well, to talk more about this, because it turns out, unfortunately, that for for everyone in,
00:32:20.040 I don't know, on the left or in the Green Mafia, whatever it is, we go. 0.78
00:32:23.280 We want to bring on a guy who's been writing nonstop about the Green Mafia and their I should 1.00
00:32:29.560 say unrelation, not relation to, but unrelation from reality.
00:32:33.200 His name is Jim Nellis.
00:32:34.480 He's a supply chain consultant based out of Chicago.
00:32:36.460 Jim, you've been writing about how we've been pushing for this green insanity.
00:32:41.500 You've got a lot of pieces up on foxnews.com, other places.
00:32:44.420 But I'd love to be able to continue this conversation with you, because here we are with the United
00:32:48.780 States, find ourselves in this situation where we are essentially in a proxy war with Russia.
00:32:54.640 But because we've turned away from fossil fuels and coal and we said, oh, green energy
00:32:59.700 is going to rule the day.
00:33:01.220 Suddenly, we realize that we don't even know how to make weapons anymore.
00:33:04.960 We don't make tanks.
00:33:05.920 We don't make stinger missiles because we don't have people with the training.
00:33:08.460 And we have no manufacturing capacity whatsoever.
00:33:12.240 Let me ask you a quick question.
00:33:13.560 Does energy policy play a role in national security, Jim?
00:33:18.200 Gee, what a shock.
00:33:19.360 Yes, energy policy does.
00:33:20.640 And if you combine that with the terrible job that we're doing with our supply chain in the
00:33:24.420 United States because of our wonderful Secretary of Transportation, the two things come together.
00:33:28.820 And what Kamala Harris would say is a wonderful Venn diagram of just disaster.
00:33:33.300 So let's think about this for a second.
00:33:34.740 We don't have the coal-fired plants to manufacture the steel that we need to make the weapons.
00:33:41.800 And then if we do manage to make weapons, we can't keep the trains on the tracks.
00:33:45.220 We can't keep the planes in the sky.
00:33:46.660 We can't keep the trucks on the road.
00:33:48.320 So between those two things together, maybe our best hope is that Mr. Burns builds that
00:33:53.520 sunblocker.
00:33:54.680 And Biden is the evil genius we all thought maybe he would be.
00:33:58.060 And we're going to block this one so that Putin can't see Ukraine.
00:34:00.360 No, I think that's it.
00:34:03.020 I think this is actually the CIA operation.
00:34:06.460 It's Operation Sunblocker.
00:34:08.800 We've Operation SPF, if you will.
00:34:12.120 So just walk us through that.
00:34:14.920 Walk us through the, you know, joking aside, walk us through the seriousness of this.
00:34:18.980 How has it actually put U.S. national security on the back foot and at a deficit now in a
00:34:27.200 way that I think even, even like my non-military civilian type friends are calling up saying,
00:34:34.240 wait a minute, we don't have the ability to do any of these things.
00:34:37.460 I thought that we've always been able to do this.
00:34:39.520 Why can't our, why doesn't our military have bullets anymore?
00:34:42.740 Is it because, and again, this is the president of the United States saying that.
00:34:46.640 And I know in the last segment with Tony Schaefer, we were, you know, we were kind of joking
00:34:50.320 about it, but this isn't my speculation.
00:34:53.040 This isn't human events.
00:34:54.340 This is, Joe Biden makes a statement like that, but we are running out of ammo.
00:34:59.020 He said, he said, Ukraine and the United States are running out of ammo.
00:35:02.440 How have we gotten this position?
00:35:04.740 I think we've gotten to this position because a couple of things.
00:35:07.760 One is we don't invest the way that we should invest in our infrastructure.
00:35:11.140 And that could be related to energy or it could be related to supply chain.
00:35:16.340 We have all these discussions about green energy and wanting to go to windmills and solar farms,
00:35:20.980 but we don't have a discussion about nuclear power.
00:35:22.960 And the same thing when nuclear power is statistically the safest and cleanest form
00:35:26.600 of energy that exists in the entire world.
00:35:29.320 If you look at the history of nuclear power, there have really been three accidents over
00:35:33.040 all of nuclear power's history.
00:35:35.040 And that's pretty darn good.
00:35:36.520 Now, what we could be doing is a few things.
00:35:39.700 One is we need to really reinvest in American manufacturing when it comes to steel.
00:35:44.920 You mentioned I'm from Chicago.
00:35:46.540 I drive through Gary, Indiana on a very regular basis.
00:35:49.020 And you see a lot of these shuttered plants just sitting there or operating at one half,
00:35:54.280 one third the capacity that they could possibly manufacture.
00:35:56.900 The other thing is we've just not made it a priority.
00:35:59.160 We keep thinking that we're going to win these wars through technology when at the end of the day,
00:36:03.920 it's bullets and butter that are going to be required to win any sort of ground battle
00:36:08.360 that we get into, or if we need to help support someone to do the same.
00:36:13.880 Well, and I think that's just it.
00:36:15.820 And we've been living, and let's just walk through it.
00:36:20.160 Are we, could we be actually, and Mearsheimer's warning is something that I talk about pretty
00:36:24.820 regularly on this.
00:36:25.840 And that's this idea, potentially, if the United States were to find ourselves in a conflict
00:36:30.620 with Russia through Ukraine, and then in a conflict with China through Taiwan, at the
00:36:36.820 same time, would essentially put us in a two-front proxy war.
00:36:42.420 I mean, I don't, this is the closest breakout we could see to World War III.
00:36:46.980 If that were the case, has our embrace of green technology and green energy put us on the
00:36:53.580 right footing for this?
00:36:55.460 Absolutely not.
00:36:56.000 And this is something I wrote about for the Washington Examiner, talking about too woke 1.00
00:36:59.500 for war.
00:37:00.420 And you have to bring in the wokeness of the military as well, because instead of focusing
00:37:04.040 on war fighting, we're focusing on making sure that we have the right number of transgender
00:37:08.820 people at the flag rank in the Navy, which is absolutely insane.
00:37:12.460 We're worried about drag queen story hour on aircraft carriers, which we shouldn't be. 0.99
00:37:16.340 We should be training.
00:37:17.060 The job of the military is to destroy the enemy and deny their ability to make war, period,
00:37:22.060 full stop.
00:37:22.600 It's not about diversity, equity, and inclusion.
00:37:25.340 The military is not a social experiment.
00:37:27.300 Going to energy policy, the same thing.
00:37:29.420 Oh, and by the way, let's not forget, we still haven't refilled the strategic oil reserves
00:37:33.360 that Biden drained in order to keep the price of gas artificially low and sold a bunch of
00:37:37.580 it to China as well.
00:37:38.820 So we're in a very bad situation where we're trying to overinvest in green energy.
00:37:43.320 We don't have the infrastructure to manufacture the weaponry that we need to manufacture.
00:37:47.720 And if we were, by some act of God, able to manufacture it, we don't have the infrastructure
00:37:51.460 within the country to get it from point A to point B, and then we can't execute the
00:37:55.160 war if we had to execute the war on two fronts, let alone one front.
00:38:00.760 I mean, and you look at this, I mean, I remember, as I say this, a prior Navy officer, you all
00:38:04.940 serve in the Navy, that they've been talking about the Navy is going to go green now.
00:38:09.280 And suddenly, we're not, you know, whereas, you know, where are the days of Hiram Rickover
00:38:13.940 and the nuclear Navy and embracing new technologies, not trying to force politically driven technologies
00:38:22.200 into everything?
00:38:23.360 They say, oh, we're going to go green.
00:38:24.660 We're going to have, you know, ethanol-fueled destroyers and cruisers and subs.
00:38:30.320 And it's, we've completely lost the plot.
00:38:33.380 I think we've lost the plot.
00:38:34.720 And unfortunately for us, all the Russians have been doing is cranking out tanks and 1.00
00:38:39.260 ships.
00:38:40.540 Exactly.
00:38:40.760 And Jack, if you've noticed, the military is committed to go to an all-electric fleet
00:38:45.940 or vehicle fleet by 2030.
00:38:48.240 You know what that means?
00:38:49.220 You're going to have electric military vehicles towing diesel generators behind them to power
00:38:54.560 up and charge the electric batteries in these electric military vehicles.
00:38:59.000 Think about the absurdity of that yet.
00:39:00.620 But having been overseas in some of these war areas, there aren't a whole lot of charging
00:39:05.260 stations there.
00:39:05.900 So that's not going to happen.
00:39:07.480 And the fact that, again, I come back to that we don't continue to talk about nuclear
00:39:11.100 power as the greenest form of energy is insane.
00:39:14.400 Look at the nuclear Navy.
00:39:15.780 The nuclear Navy has done a fantastic job and they can deploy and stay at sea for as long
00:39:21.340 as the food holds out.
00:39:23.960 And this is something that I do explain to people, I think, more and more, because I think
00:39:27.360 if you serve in the Navy, you get it.
00:39:29.460 It's ubiquitous.
00:39:30.820 It's obvious.
00:39:32.320 One of the sort of program notes I got the other day is, hey, make sure that you explain
00:39:36.780 things to folks more.
00:39:38.140 Guys, every single aircraft carrier for the 14 carriers that we have out on active duty
00:39:43.380 right now, usually about three on patrol.
00:39:46.720 Others are in various stages of birthing or resupply training, et cetera.
00:39:51.700 All of our aircraft carriers have nuclear reactors on them, two, two nuclear reactors.
00:39:57.100 I think some of the supercarriers might even might be talking about having more.
00:40:00.720 And then all of our submarines have at least one nuclear reactor on them at all times.
00:40:06.660 And it's been that way for decades now inside the Navy, decades.
00:40:11.520 The Navy has completely embraced nuclear power.
00:40:14.340 And to the point where we have not seen one of these devastating incidents like we have
00:40:19.840 in other places.
00:40:20.480 There's certainly been no Chernobyl of the Navy, knock on wood, but they have an excellent
00:40:24.020 track record.
00:40:25.200 The idea that the United States couldn't replicate this other where it is completely insane.
00:40:29.200 And also, people don't understand, because I get it, it gets into numbers, math.
00:40:34.480 The use of nuclear power just obliterates the the capacity of other forms of electricity.
00:40:43.700 It is it is a by a factor of 1000 times greater than any other form of energy that we've to
00:40:51.320 date.
00:40:51.700 Right.
00:40:52.380 Discovered this is what powers the sun one minute until break.
00:40:55.980 Just but I want to hold you over because this is an important conversation.
00:40:59.340 No, I think the other thing, it's not widely known, but their technology actually exists
00:41:04.660 to take nuclear waste and convert that to power as well.
00:41:07.900 We have 25,000 years.
00:41:09.960 That's the Gen 4, I believe.
00:41:11.260 Yes.
00:41:11.940 It's just they've never commercialized that technology, but the technology exists.
00:41:16.420 The fact that we don't talk about this is, like I said, it's insane.
00:41:20.420 I really think that we need to look at our energy policy as well as our supply chain policy
00:41:26.600 as a national security issue and no longer just as something that we put Ocasio-Cortez
00:41:34.840 in charge of and let her go run around talking about solar farms.
00:41:38.260 I wrote a few weeks ago that in order to generate enough electricity in the United States using
00:41:44.180 solar farms, you would need five states the size of South Dakota dedicated to nothing.
00:41:49.800 Completely not.
00:41:50.640 Stay tuned, folks.
00:41:51.220 We'll be right back.
00:41:51.980 Continue more.
00:41:52.420 All right, we are back live with Jim Nellis.
00:42:10.160 We're talking about supply chains.
00:42:12.360 We're talking about manufacturing.
00:42:13.820 We're talking about the United States' lack of an industrial base.
00:42:17.480 The fact that other countries like China and Russia have spent the last 30 years building
00:42:22.920 up their manufacturing base, diversifying their electricity.
00:42:27.960 What are we doing?
00:42:29.380 Are there energy sources?
00:42:30.700 What are we doing for our energy sources?
00:42:32.500 We're shutting down our ability to use energy.
00:42:36.340 We're shutting down our ability to manufacture.
00:42:38.940 We're shutting down our drilling.
00:42:41.220 Jim, what was it you think?
00:42:44.340 I mean, I understand the politics of it, and I think everyone out there understands it.
00:42:48.680 But certainly you'd think that there had to have been some adults in the room at some
00:42:52.840 point that said, OK, yeah, we like this solar stuff.
00:42:56.140 We like this green stuff.
00:42:57.160 But we have to still continue the bread and butter of actually running the country and keeping
00:43:02.480 the hospitals on and things like this.
00:43:05.720 I mean, what happened?
00:43:07.700 Were people just asleep at the wheel?
00:43:10.180 No, I actually think it's worse than that.
00:43:11.860 I think that this green energy thing, if you will, has become such a cult of personality,
00:43:18.480 has become such a religion that you would never speak of going back to conventional energy.
00:43:24.600 You would never think of those things.
00:43:25.960 Let's take what happened in Texas a few winters ago, where because of the over-reliance on a
00:43:30.920 lot of this alternate forms of energy, the grid went down for a couple of days during the wintertime.
00:43:35.600 Now, what are one of the things terrorists would really love to be able to do in the United
00:43:38.600 States?
00:43:39.280 Take down the grid.
00:43:40.000 We're doing it to ourselves, and no one took a step back after that and said, we really
00:43:45.100 need to rethink this green thing, or we need to have at least some backup plans in place
00:43:48.980 because the wind doesn't always blow, and the sun doesn't always shine, and we have
00:43:52.800 no way to deal with these excessive drains on the grid.
00:43:57.620 Look at, again, California last summer and the summer before that.
00:44:00.940 Gavin Newsom one week announces that they're going to go to all electric vehicles by, I believe
00:44:05.540 it was 2050, and then two days later, he's telling people not to charge their cars overnight
00:44:09.880 because the grid couldn't support it.
00:44:11.760 These folks, it's a religion, but it's a religion based on fallacy, not any sort of religion based
00:44:17.640 on fact.
00:44:18.280 Well, I think that's true, and it's funny enough.
00:44:23.460 So on the very first day of the Ukraine war, I made a point, and it was on War Room.
00:44:31.500 It wasn't when I was here.
00:44:32.140 It was with Bannon.
00:44:32.600 And I said, one of the big reasons this war is happening is because Germany listened to 0.98
00:44:39.020 Greta Thunberg instead of listened to Donald Trump.
00:44:42.260 And Media Matters raised this huge headline attacking me saying, Posobiec blames Russian
00:44:49.940 invasion on Greta Thunberg. 0.87
00:44:51.840 And I said, no, I didn't blame it on her, but I pointed out that her as sort of an avatar
00:44:58.420 of the green movement set up the conditions that led to this.
00:45:04.560 Jack, go back to the president's speech before the United Nations General Assembly when he
00:45:10.020 was, President Trump was president.
00:45:11.980 He told Germany, stop relying on Russia for oil and gas.
00:45:16.100 You can't do that and stop building all these green power plants that you cannot operate.
00:45:22.040 You need to be diverse.
00:45:23.260 You need to be diverse, and you need to get your oil and your gas from other places.
00:45:26.320 And if you look at the video, they actually laughed at the man.
00:45:29.820 And it was more prophetic than anyone thought.
00:45:32.540 And it just goes to show, you can't over-accelerate these things.
00:45:36.520 And you have to understand the power that comes from controlling energy and controlling the
00:45:43.160 ability to transport things from point A to point B.
00:45:46.020 If you control those two things, guess what?
00:45:48.560 You control the outcome of any conflict.
00:45:50.460 Look, I tell it to my staff.
00:45:54.260 I say it to the family a lot of times.
00:45:58.500 It's amateurs talk strategy.
00:46:02.760 Professionals talk logistics.
00:46:05.160 Logistics, logistics, logistics all day long.
00:46:09.540 Absolutely.
00:46:10.240 And the issue is with, again, look at the Navy.
00:46:14.160 Well, let's come back to the Navy.
00:46:15.200 We've almost cut our fleet size in half.
00:46:17.600 We don't have the ability to project power ashore.
00:46:20.640 We don't have the ability to keep our ships afloat because we just don't have the support
00:46:25.380 capability.
00:46:25.940 We don't have the number of ships that we need.
00:46:28.140 And again, what are they going to do?
00:46:29.960 Put up solar sails to sail around the world without trying to increase the carbon footprint?
00:46:35.060 It just won't work.
00:46:36.160 And we need to get back to what the business of the war is, the business of the military
00:46:39.780 machine is.
00:46:40.360 And that's to destroy the enemy and deny their ability to make war against us.
00:46:45.640 What do you think Americans should do when they're worried about these issues?
00:46:50.440 Is this something we can reach out to Congress about?
00:46:53.120 Is this something we should write about?
00:46:54.600 What do you think the average person can do when we're talking about issues like this?
00:46:58.920 A lot of this can be done at the state and local level.
00:47:02.800 A lot of the state governments, Illinois, for example, has banned any new construction of
00:47:08.340 nuclear power plants.
00:47:09.580 That can be done at the state level.
00:47:11.920 You can get involved there.
00:47:13.440 You need to demand from your representatives that they not just tell you that we're going
00:47:17.640 to go green, but explain how that transition is going to work and what the backup plan is
00:47:21.600 for when it doesn't.
00:47:22.780 And none of them have the ability to do that.
00:47:25.260 You need to ask them, if you live in a place like Chicago or New York City where you have
00:47:30.100 20,000 people living in an apartment building, how long do the extension cords have to be to
00:47:34.780 go from my apartment on the 50th floor down to my car three blocks away to charge it overnight?
00:47:39.500 People don't understand the infrastructure, how that has to marry up with the dream of
00:47:43.860 the green energy mob that these guys have because it just doesn't work.
00:47:47.700 It's just not there and it's dangerous for the society.
00:47:50.600 Think about this.
00:47:51.360 Everyone got so upset when we pulled out of the Paris Climate Accord.
00:47:54.440 We pulled out of the Paris Climate Accord at a time when China is building two new coal-fired 0.68
00:47:59.440 power plants every single week.
00:48:02.480 So, you know, New York's banning pizza ovens in the name of global warming and green energy
00:48:06.720 and China is building two coal-fired power plants every single week.
00:48:11.780 What do you think is the bigger impact on the environment?
00:48:14.140 Where should we be looking?
00:48:17.580 Jim, makes sense to me, man.
00:48:20.160 I hope that we can get someone in office and get people in office that can focus on this
00:48:25.180 a little bit more and take it seriously as opposed to the screechings of a teenage high
00:48:31.560 school student.
00:48:32.460 Jim, where can people go to follow you and get more access to your writings?
00:48:36.120 The best place to follow me is on Twitter at Jim6555 and you can find my writings, Fox
00:48:40.680 News, Daily Wire, and Washington Examiner.
00:48:44.180 Awesome.
00:48:44.660 Hope to have you at humanevents.com too at some point, by the way.
00:48:47.400 We're going to work on that.
00:48:48.180 Libby, get them on. 1.00
00:48:49.780 Look, folks, we need to get serious.
00:48:53.720 We need to get serious, all right?
00:48:56.700 The U.S. government is playing games.
00:49:00.060 Russia, China, Iran, they're playing to win.
00:49:04.300 I think that everybody understands that at this point.
00:49:06.520 BRICS, they just put out the statement, they're moving a gold standard.
00:49:10.340 They want to have a new currency that's coming, not a new basket of currencies, a new complete
00:49:15.000 currency that they want.
00:49:17.060 Do you want a government that is taking things seriously?
00:49:20.680 Or do you want a guy who can't even walk up the steps?
00:49:25.420 By the way, do you notice in China and where they're going around now with Biden, they're
00:49:31.380 giving, I think he's in the U.K., they're giving him the little steps.
00:49:34.480 He goes into the belly of the plane now.
00:49:36.020 So he goes into the belly of the plane.
00:49:37.700 He doesn't go all the way to the top.
00:49:39.160 He now goes into the belly.
00:49:40.580 That's who we have.
00:49:42.500 These guys are waging war on us and they're winning.
00:49:46.040 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.