EPISODE 519: REGIME PLANS TO STRIP TRUMP FROM THE BALLOT IN ALL 50 STATES, KIRK CAMERON'S LIBRARY TAKEOVER DAY
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On today's show: President Trump receives a target letter from the DOJ indicating that he is a target of a January 6th grand jury investigation. North Korea detains an American soldier. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis lays off about 10 staff members as he struggles to gain traction in the crowded primary field. President Trump meets with former President Donald Trump for the first time in years.
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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.
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There's a lot we do not know about the circumstances here.
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Some reports suggesting that soldier crossed the military border between the North and South.
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The President of the United States saying that the American people were running out of bullets.
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We're not making enough ammunition to arm our own troops or to arm our allies for a war of the future.
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And yet these same people will continue to say that we can send more, more, more to Ukraine.
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Have a private audience with former President Donald Trump.
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He and I got a one-on-one together for the first time in years, and it was, frankly, great to see him.
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You know, all that nonsense between us is under the bridge, and he could not have been more magnanimous.
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Florida Governor Ron DeSantis hit the trail today amid a campaign shakeup, laying off about 10 staff members as he struggles to gain traction in the crowded GOP field.
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Donald Trump posted on Truth Social, his fledgling social media site, to reveal this.
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He says he received a target letter from the Department of Justice, from Jack Smith's office, Sunday night,
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saying that he is indeed a target of the January 6th grand jury investigation.
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The difference between being brought up on criminal charges and doing things, like, for example,
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I think it was shown how he was in the White House and didn't do anything while things were going on.
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Today's edition of Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
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President Trump has received a target letter from the Department of Justice stating that they intend
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and are likely looking at an indictment of President Trump for January 6th.
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Who could have predicted that they would be looking at an indictment for Trump over January 6th?
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We've been telling you about this for months at this point.
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We've brought Julie Kelly on to tell you about this.
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And as I said, a turning point action over the weekend in West Palm Beach, I will say here again,
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the plan is not just to indict and convict Trump over January 6th in Washington, D.C.
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Step two, ladies and gentlemen, is to take that conviction and then parade it around in every single one of the 50 states where he is on the ballot and try to strike him from the ballot.
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They are preemptively meddling in our elections.
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This is the two-track plan to stop Donald Trump from winning the presidency once again.
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The first is to defeat him conventionally through the primary.
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The primary has been over for a long time at this point.
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This is unconventional warfare against the American people.
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This is unconventional warfare against the national populist movement.
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This is unconventional warfare against who we are as a nation.
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We are living through an era of regime politics.
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And the moment you understand that and accept that is the moment that you can understand where we are and what time it is.
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You have to know what part of the movie you're in.
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This is the part where it looks like they're going to take out the good guy.
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And if they do strip him from the ballot, I said it on stage over the weekend.
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I'm not afraid to say it because it is not a, it's not what I want.
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It's not what I desire, but it's what I believe is the most likely outcome.
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That if you strip Donald Trump from the ballot, it will blow this country apart.
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This is the insanity that they are willing to go through just to prevent a guy from being able to stand in a legitimate, free and fair election.
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We've already seen how they threw all the rules out the window in 2020 and state after state counting ballots that never should have been counted.
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And we say, what about all the rules you broke?
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We don't care because Joe Biden has to be the winner.
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We've been paying attention for a long time and we've been calling their shots day in, day out.
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We've got a huge action packed show for you today.
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Gavin Wax of the New York YRs is coming up next.
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Yes, Kirk Cameron himself will be joining human events today.
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Very, very excited to have that for you to bring him forward because this is not just a political struggle.
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It is a physical, spiritual, and cultural struggle.
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When I'm working long hours, I'm always listening to human events with Jack Posobiec.
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Let me walk you through what's going on here, folks.
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In a little notice report that came out from the Project on Government Oversight, the Project on Government Oversight, all the way back on November 15th, 2022.
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It was called, The Constitution's Disqualification Clause Can Be Enforced Today.
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It was by Liz Hempovich, David Janofsky, and Norman Eisen.
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Norm Eisen, the same guy who was part of fortifying our elections in 2020.
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The elections that I just talked about, the same Norm Eisen who was involved in color revolutions, the same Norm Eisen who is stating now, and I've got a tweet from him up as well on this, where let's just see.
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Hey, Trump, you think you're just going to waltz onto primary ballots?
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And so he's got an article up from Just Security, which then reaches back to this report that Norm Eisen, this deranged leftist, wrote.
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The Constitution's Disqualification Clause Can Be Enforced Today.
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So he talks about the attack on the Capitol Complex.
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The attack, remember, the grave and attack on the Capitol Complex led to the first application of the Disqualification Clause contained in Section 3 of the 14th Amendment in more than a century.
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Section 3, and I quote, prohibits public office holders who have taken an oath to support the U.S. Constitution and then engage in insurrection or rebellion against the United States or who give aid or comfort to enemies of the United States from serving in public office.
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The analysis in this report will build on the established collective understanding of Section 3 to guide contemporary application of the clause.
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The report will specifically prescribe how the Disqualification Clause can currently be enforced against individuals involved in the January 6th attack.
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Anyway, this is Norm Eisen speaking, so maybe I shouldn't read it in my own voice.
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To support and strengthen the existing legal procedures for enforcing the Disqualification Clause, we must recommend the select committee to investigate the January 6th attack on the United States Capitol Complex.
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Includes a full report, particularized recital of all relevant evidence it has uncovered, implicating Section 3.
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We further recommend that the final report, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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I'm going to put that back so I'm not doing the whole Agent Smith thing with my IFB.
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The 14th Amendment, Section 3, specifically describes a case wherein, if you were a member of an active rebellion against the United States,
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and I'm going to let you hear a quote, insurrection or rebellion, right there, insurrection or rebellion, insurrection or rebellion,
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then you can no longer hold federal office in the United States.
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Now, the 14th Amendment was passed after the Civil War.
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It was passed regarding Confederate officials, and essentially after the Union won the war,
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they set it up so that those congressmen or former, because a lot of, this happened during the Civil War,
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where a lot of former congressmen, a lot of former senators, then went on to serve in roles as officials of the Confederacy.
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Yeah, Jefferson Davis was a United States senator from Mississippi.
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So it was targeting people like Jefferson Davis to state that they didn't want him to be able to further serve if he ran for re-election again in the United States Senate.
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So this was essentially done for the defeated side in the war through that Reconstruction process,
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which we'll probably also have to talk about because there's a whole lot of mess that got started during Reconstruction.
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What we're talking about here is that they are now trying to apply this.
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And Norm Eisen, the same individual, who if you don't believe that Norm Eisen and Andrew Weissman
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and these guys are not working in lockstep with Jack Smith, then you've not been paying attention.
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And then once this conviction happens, because folks, I'm going to cut to the chase.
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They are going to try to use this to strip President Trump off the ballot.
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They're going to go and walk this conviction around because, look, I'm going to tell you, I've been here.
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I've been covering every single trial in D.C., whether it's Roger Stone, whether it's Steve Bannon, whether it's General Flynn, whether it's George Papadopoulos.
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There is no such thing as the potential for a fair trial within the confines of the District of Columbia if you're a Republican or if you're even anywhere remotely associated with Trump or if you are to the right of, like, Chairman Mao.
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If you're to the right of Chairman Mao, then guess what?
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You're going to be convicted over something like this if you are brought up on charges, period, full stop.
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That's why they bring these charges where they do.
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So the whole point of the January 6th committee was to essentially taint the jury pool, to already believe that it was an insurrection.
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Then it was meant to taint jury pools all around the country because the D.C. and legal challengers, they're going to do the same thing that Perkins Coy was doing all throughout 2020 to challenge the votes, to challenge the voting rules, to challenge the election rules.
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And they're going to walk around and say, how can you let this guy on the ballot because he has been convicted of seditious conspiracy?
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It'll be seditious conspiracy or something close to that.
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And Julie Kelly has done a fantastic yeoman's work of walking us through how it is that these statements and texts and conversations can be completely misconstrued as to believe that there was actually a seditious conspiracy to overthrow the United States government.
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So you need to pay attention to the next thing I tell you.
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They are going to go to federal judges and they're going to file these cases to knock Trump off the ballot.
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They're going to try to do so in the primary if they can get a conviction before the primaries are done.
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If not, they are going to do it in the general.
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And you don't have to take my word for it because, look, I've got the tweet right here, November 15th, 2022.
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Norm Eisen, hey, Trump, you think you're just going to waltz onto primary ballots?
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He laid it out in plain view for everyone to see.
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You can just go follow these people on Twitter.
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It's this one simple trick called reading the words that they actually say.
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And this has also been the goal for a number, right?
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A number of challengers to Trump that we've seen go on throughout there.
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And go look, go watch the Tucker interviews on Friday.
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So many of those people disqualified themselves as far as I'm concerned, disqualified themselves from office.
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So many of them also are seeing their poll numbers plummet, just absolutely plummet, bottom of the basement, 14%, 10%, single digits.
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And it's simple because they believe, as we told you on this program, and Richard Barris has told you on this program, that they are going around and they are telling donors that Trump won't be on the ballot.
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The Trump will be knocked out of the race by something else.
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If you think you're going to win a campaign that way, if you think that you're going to win a primary that way, number one, shame on you.
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Number two, that will put such a bad taste in so many people's mouths because they will feel that you went along with this crooked government.
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They will feel that you went along with this crooked persecution of a former president, and they're not going to turn out for you.
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You'll turn out a lot of people, but you won't turn out enough, and you will end up with a Mitt Romney map.
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So these electability arguments are ridiculous.
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They're ridiculous because of that simple fact.
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Donald J. Trump showed us a way to win back the Rust Belt, including Pennsylvania, okay?
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And you fought him tooth and nail every step of the way ever since.
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I've never seen the Republican Party so upset about winning.
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And yet you're seeing those same establishment politicians or people who are now siding with the establishment go along and criticize Trump over J6, attack him over J6, go use the establishment line again and again and again.
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This is being stated for the benefit, not of the voters.
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So they primed the pump already by saying Trump's going to be knocked off the ballot.
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See, January 6th brought up the same day as there's legal challenges.
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Sure, they'll say, oh, I don't think Trump should be prosecuted over it.
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But then again, you benefit from it, don't you?
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Well, certainly every campaign in the Republican primary other than Donald Trump's benefit stands to benefit from this, don't they?
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And so you would be behoovant to go along with what's happening.
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They can see right through what you are siding with.
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And you are virtue signaling for the enemy right now.
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And as a campaign, as advisors, as just voters, as American citizens, you really need to look yourselves in the mirror and ask yourselves, what are we doing?
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Is it worth it to blow the country up over stripping this guy off the ballot?
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Is that really what you got into politics for in the first place?
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Or are you so obsessed with your quest of winning right now that you cannot look at the long-term implications of your actions?
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And so reality is smacking us all in the face right now.
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And the question is, how are we going to respond to it?
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Folks, when you dig deeper into what's actually happening here, go and look at the polls.
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And you don't need to be a Richard Barris to understand this.
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This one from, let's see here, Morning Consult.
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Morning Consult is a very close tracker, not a Republican poll.
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Morning Consult has Biden 43, Trump 41, Biden 43, DeSantis 39.
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So Trump polling ahead of DeSantis there, neck and neck with Joe Biden, though.
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They've got Trump 55, DeSantis 20, Ramaswamy 8.
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Got a chance to see Vivek Ramaswamy over the weekend at the Turning Point USA event.
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And I got to say, this was somebody who had a lot of just a turning point action, I should
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And Tanya and I, Tanya Tay, the beautiful and lovely Tanya Tay and I went to the Vivek
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after party, which was held just across the street from the venue.
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And so a lot of people spilled out over there to go and see what he had to say.
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I've not seen that level of momentum behind a candidate since Donald Trump first got into
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the race, though I have my questions and certainly have my considerations about Vivek's background.
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And so this is something where I think a lot of people are still asking.
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But we're also going to ask the question, where was this guy in 2020?
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And so it's a question that's for him to answer.
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So I will tell you this, that Human Events is working to see if we can reach out to Vivek
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Ramaswamy and bring him on the program so we can ask him these very questions and give
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If you want to come on the program, we will always have you on and give you a fair chance
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And I do have to say, though, that in terms of his comments on Ukraine, now this was partially
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began at the forum in Iowa, that I thought his comments were very good, were very strong.
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He offered actual specifics on how the Ukraine war could be solved.
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Now that, of course, means it's an opening bid.
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Now at one point he said, Donbass, Crimea, they're going with Russia.
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But then he turned to Russia and said, or said that he would turn to Russia and say, we want
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you to break up this military alliance with China.
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But it's going to be very hard for an American president to do that.
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Because of course, what have we been spending the last five years doing, or really, and three
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years in specifics, I should say three years doing, with the exception of the four years
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But everything else beyond the Trump administration has been set up to drive Russia and China directly
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Now, if you're running foreign policy, if you are running the United States government, what
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you should be attempting to do, if you have three superpowers in the world, you have three
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superpowers, the United States, Russia, and China, what your goal should be is to separate
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Russia and China from being joined at the hip and then potentially turn one against the
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And so from a basic rapprochement perspective, you would want to be able to look for ways
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that you could achieve that, find common ground with Russia being the third country in that
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And at the same time, you shouldn't demonize India, because India has been one of our closest
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partners, and India is the obvious choice to balance against China.
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It is completely insane, and that's why our foreign policy establishment is completely
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They're doing everything they can to drive our enemies directly into each other's arms,
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and third, to drive our allies, our allies, into the arms of the CCP, who they already don't
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And then you have the same group, the BRICS nations, are now talking about introducing
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And I've seen a lot of people claiming that he changed his position on it, but I think it's
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The United States government controls the flow of arms, munitions, personnel in some cases,
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and if you believe American boots aren't on the ground right now, you didn't need Jack
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Teixeira, the Air National Guardsman, to tell us that there are American boots on the ground.
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But what's really going on is that the United States is embroiled in a proxy war using Ukraine
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We've never been told, it's never been explained to us why it is that attacking Russia is good
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We are told to accept it because there's no other purpose.
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And Biden apparently this morning has, you know, another 1.5 billion because why not?
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Mike Pence is probably very, very happy with that.
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Mike Pence, well, he said, well, it's not my concern, but no, I was taking it into context.
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The tanks were my concern, not the cities were my concern.
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It's like Pence, you're the one running for president, buddy.
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You're the one whose job it is to make sure that you come across coherently.
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We've already got a president who's completely incoherent, Pence.
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It's with heavy heart that I have to announce this, that Mike Pence didn't just spend one night.
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No, it says here that Mike Pence, we're hearing word, we're hearing word, we're hearing reports
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that Mike Pence didn't just spend one night in the punishment closet.
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He had to spend the entire weekend there after getting tuckered on the debate stage in Iowa.
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Our thoughts and prayers are with the former vice president in this trying time, in his time of troubles.
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You know, when you're a politician, the main thing that you want to tell the voters or the main,
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even just emotion that you want to express to them is that I care about you, that I care for you,
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that I have some level of care for you and that about your concerns, about your frustrations,
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whatever it may be, and that if you work with me, I can help you to alleviate them.
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That is the single, basic, bedrock, fundamental premise of being a politician.
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You know, Bill Clinton famously, you know, in one of the 1996 debates with Bob Dole said,
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no attack line is ever going to put food in a hungry child's mouth.
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You know, he's never going to feed a hungry child, right?
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It's ridiculous because, of course, Bob Dole was giving a perfect attack, but here you go.
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Because this is something that Democrats have been much better at than Republicans for a long time.
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And this is a huge problem across the Republican board with a lot of these establishment Republican politicians.
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Republicans, they're so wonky, they're so nerdy, they're so dorky about different issues,
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they come across dorky about issues, that they don't simply show a little bit of emotion and say that they care about voters.
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You can see RFK does this all the time, by the way.
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He just simply sits with people and he listens to their frustrations and he says,
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The Democrats have been doing it for a generation.
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Well, there's one Republican who actually has figured out his name is Donald Trump.
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And this is why I think so many people in the working class were able to switch sides.
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I'll go to Zelensky and I'll say, I'm going to cut off the money stream.
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Then I'm going to go to Putin and I'm going to say, look, if you want this done in 24 hours,
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you can cut off the money stream or turn around and I will bomb the Kremlin.
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So you threaten both of them at the same time and you get them to sit down with the deal.
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And what's interesting, I actually tweeted that he could solve this with two phone calls
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before I saw his interview with Marita Barromo, where he essentially described how he would
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It's again, not some special insight that I have.
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And I've never spoken to him about it directly, but it's simple because that's always been his
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And we talked about this when Rick Grinnell came on, that the Trump administration was
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known for its security policies, its peace plans and peace deals that were being done
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You had Korea, North Korea, where apparently there's some soldier who crossed the border
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North American soldier crosses the DMZ based or cringe.
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But then we also saw in Israel, the Middle East, the Abraham Accords defeating ISIS, which
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Then vis-a-vis China, where President Trump got himself involved, sent Rick Grinnell down
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So that's where he had the Serbia-Kosovo talks.
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And look, the most fascinating number that came out of that Turning Point Action straw poll
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Opposition to US involvement in the Ukraine war actually pulled higher than Donald Trump
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Opposition to US involvement in the Ukraine war actually pulled higher than Donald Trump.
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But that being said, that's an eight-point delta higher.
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Do they understand that the Republican base has totally shifted on this?
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Folks, talking about shifts, we want to get into cultural shifts.
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And that's why next, coming up here at Human Events,
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I'm buzzing in my ear about the boring people at your office.
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I'm trying to listen to the new human events with Jack Posobiec.
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So, ladies and gentlemen, we've been remiss for not having this next guest on for a long time.
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Ladies and gentlemen, the great Kirk Cameron joins Human Events.
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I would title myself the great full Kirk Cameron for being on your show.
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He's put we're getting over by Kirk Cameron, the celebrity endorsements.
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So you and I, for people who don't know the story, we first met because we were doing what
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Library event down there a couple of months ago, which was exactly during the transgender
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Do you remember that and everything they did to try to shut down our event?
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And understandably, there were a lot of moms who didn't want to bring their children
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there, but there were some brave dads and moms who drove in.
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Some of them were my friends from Virginia that came and we had a great time.
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I love the way that you read that book of yours.
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They did a they did a write up of me of that in some one of these lefty publications.
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And they were talking about how they were terrified that that children would be near
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Jack Posobiec and Kirk Cameron as they were making fun of, you know, communists and all
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It's like it's like they want to think of us as cartoon characters.
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They don't actually think of us as regular people, regular dads who have families that
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When when you can't attack the book itself, you want to attack the book reader.
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You want to create these these arguments that scare people away from the person, even though
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the book that you're reading is absolutely fantastic and is a reflection of what's in
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Things like kindness, truth, justice, self-control, faith and peace.
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Because, you know, I've seen some of these headlines.
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I've read into it, but I wanted to get it straight from you.
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What is the latest in terms of the fight to shut down specifically your book and how you
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Well, this began last Christmas where I wrote a book called As You Grow, teaching kids about
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the value of biblical wisdom and learning the fruit of the spirit, love, kindness.
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And now my new book is out called Pride Comes Before the Fall.
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It released June 1st, the first day of the so-called Pride Month, and it teaches kids the
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value of humility, that pride is not a good thing.
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In fact, pride is the deadliest of the seven deadly sins.
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I call it the pregnant mother that gives birth to every form of evil.
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So that book came out and we went to San Francisco and then Seattle, Washington, and we were welcomed
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And this is really bringing light to the culture war that we have been in for a while, that
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many are just waking up to, that you've been telling us about for a while.
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You got to admit, I mean, I wanted to hang out and go have a beer with that guy or something
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Yeah, I always say, I don't always agree with the protesters, but if they're clever,
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And, you know, I would like to just point out that while I don't high five the ideas
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of the trans movement or a lot of the leftist movements, what we can do is we can say,
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Here we are people who love the values of Western civilization.
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And if you look at a small minority group of people and look at how they have been salt
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and light, their version of salt and light in a culture to transform it, they're getting
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out of their little huddles and they're, you know, not just staying in the gay bars, they're
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going into public schools, libraries, education, business, tech, government, everything else.
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Hey, folks, that's what we should have been doing for the last 50 years.
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And because of our neglect, we now have a mess on our hands.
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You know, by the way, that's the that's the tagline.
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My friend, Dr. Taylor Marshall, uses that on his show.
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He says, you know, Christ told us to be the salt and the light.
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Go out there and be adding to life, adding to the culture.
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And I think that's what you're I mean, we're both brave books, authors.
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But what are you doing now to fight back against this this effort to really shut down not only
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First, we had some grumpy librarians who didn't want us to come and talk about peace, love,
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But now we have the ALA itself trying to block access for us as authors and families from
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coming to their own public libraries to read any book of Christian virtue or any book at
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This is the American Library Association, whose president is a self-avowed lesbian Marxist
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and her director of the Office of Intellectual Freedom went on national virtual conference
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and instructed librarians everywhere on how they can deny access to, quote, the Kirk Cameron
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thing and how to invent programming so that the day's programming for the reading room is
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all filled up on August 5th, the day of our national event.
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government calling for an investigation because this is a organization that's getting public
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grants from the government to instruct public libraries and parents are furious.
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And the good news is, if I can use the Lord of the Rings metaphor, the message has gone
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out to the Shire and all the hobbits are gathering for an unforgettable battle against the orcs.
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On August 5th, it's called See You at the Library, where families are adopting their local
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public libraries and reading a story of virtue to their children.
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Go to bravebooks.com and sign up for See You at the Library and join hundreds of families
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all across the nation in hundreds of libraries already signed up.
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I mean, I look at this and we say the American Library Association, you would think, and people
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remember the libraries from when we were kids, you know, you went there and look, I remember
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going to libraries as one of the first places that I was able to discover really the joy of
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reading, sure, but also the joy of learning, that walking through those aisles and you never
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knowing what's coming around the next bend, that you can choose a book, it blew my mind having those
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experiences. And now what we're doing is we're, when you walk into a library, the very first thing you
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see, it's that table, right? And everybody knows that table. It's the same one that's in Barnes and
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Noble, Books A Million has it sometimes too, but Books A Million, not as much as Barnes and Noble,
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where it's gender, it's ideology, it's liberalism. And in the kids section, they've always got
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these books and it's either written by an Obama or a Biden or, you know, one of these other groups
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or Clinton, right? It's always the same people. And then you find these children's books where
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it's talking about, oh, the story of Kamala Harris. It's like, what, really? We're going to do that for
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kids all of a sudden? Like what, it's amazing. So Kurt, we've got a break coming up here. I'd love to hold
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you over if we could, if you have a second, because I think there's so much more people need to
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understand about the cultural fight that's going on in the United States and your own unique position
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in having waged that war for so long. As Human Events continues, bombshell interview, we're fighting
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back. When I grew up in the hood, I rolled with bloods and them boys had a saying. You can't be
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listening to all that slappy whack, trim out as all it's a bam ship, nippy bam bam, like Human Events
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with Jack Posobiec. All right, we're back here at Human Events. Kurt Cameron joins us. He's got the
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event, the takeover. See you at the library event. It's a library takeover going on on August 5th. Now,
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Kurt, do you know, we were talking a little bit during the break, do you know specifically where
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you will personally be on August 5th, if that's something you're at liberty to discuss publicly?
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Yeah, yeah, we're locking that in right now. But just to be clear, there will be hundreds and
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hundreds of libraries simultaneously across the nation hosted by parents and grandparents
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reading books of virtue for the See You at the Library event. And I think I'm going to be in
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Tennessee. If you remember a couple months back, we had an event at a library in Tennessee
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where the librarian was so disgruntled and disorderly, he tried to cancel the event at the
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last minute and then was making so much noise, it was disrupting everything that the community and
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the board got together along with the mayor and they actually fired him and replaced him with
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somebody else. And then the mayor wrote us a letter and said, we would love to have you back.
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We are all about the kind of values that you're promoting. And so please come back. We might go back
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to that very same library in Nashville, Tennessee. So let me get a sense of this, because I don't
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remember librarians being like this a generation ago. What do you think happened that made them so
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politicized? What is it? You know, I think it's, it's, it's been a slow preparation and buildup for
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the fulfillment of the times, which is right now. And I'm not talking about a revelation,
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apocalyptic kind of thing. I'm saying that the groundwork had to be laid and now you are known
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for, you are known for that. Yeah, that's right. But that's a much longer conversation. And I think
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what we're seeing now is it's go time. And you've got the director of the American Library Association
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or president, whatever her position is, who is an avowed and publicly openly lesbian Marxist. And if
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you, we know about Marxism that is diametrically opposed to the idea of Western civilization and a
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constitutional biblical Republic, like we have. And so that's trickling down everywhere. It's
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shocking. You said something earlier, and it just made me think just to put, to frame the whole thing.
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You talked about the magic of libraries when we were kids and we would go in there and
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you should have been tipped off by the Dewey decimal system. I didn't know it, but John Dewey,
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there you have a Marxist right there and he's organizing all the books. But even then we could go
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around the corner and we didn't know we'd read a book and we would learn something that would blow
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our minds. And now everyone, your kids go into the library, they turn the corner and they read a book
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and learn how to blow something else with graphic detail laid out there on the pages for them.
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So this is what has to be said. Apparently Barack Obama is wanting to defend and says,
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these are the kinds of books that shaped his life as a young man, a community organizer. And as
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a congressperson, and these are the ones that he wants to defend. So what do we say about this?
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Other than this is the war, we are in it and we have to wake up. If not, we're sitting ducks who
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don't see the wolves that are staring at us. And even if we do, are we going to know how to fight?
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Are we going to know how to get away from the situation and get back to original first principles?
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Because the goal, of course, is very obvious. They're targeting the children to be able to say
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so that when the kids come home, they say, mom and dad, you're wrong. And what the priest,
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what the pastor saying on Sunday, they're wrong. I learned in school, I learned in the library that
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they're wrong. So the idea, and you see this, by the way, if you've studied communism, if you've
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studied revolutionary movements, this is always what they do. They pit the kids against the
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parents, against the status quo. They'll use whatever they have to say. They don't actually
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care about the kids, right? The point is the disruption, the disruption that allows them
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to attain power by destroying the original system.
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Jack, you're so sharp. You're so smart. I'm so thankful for you and that you're giving this
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information out to all of us and teaching us these things. You know, I was reading a little
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bit from Mao Zedong's Little Red Book. And you go back and you, whether it's Mao or whether it's
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Hitler or whoever, you understand that their whole goal is to do exactly what you said. In order to
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reorganize society on a different foundational premise, you've got to disorganize the first
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premise. You've got to deconstruct it. And that's what they're doing. And the easiest people to do
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that with the most vulnerable, the most susceptible to deception are who do you kids? They believe the
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moon is made of cheese and they can believe that America is based on white supremacy and all of these
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things that are not true because they're kids. And also tells us the solution. One thing, if we did
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one thing, we would just unplug the progressive machine, if every parent said, I'm no longer going
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to pay to send my children to the government indoctrination camp called public school, the
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public school has become the secular state's orthodox church, and they are brainwashing your
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children. You're sacrificing their hearts and minds on the altar of wokeness. And you will not get them
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back if you leave them there, barring a miracle. So take back your responsibility and stop outsourcing
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That's exactly right. I mean, and kids these days, they're getting hit with it left and right,
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whether it's on YouTube, whether it's on social media, whether it's in the schools,
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whether it's in the libraries, you need to be taking an active role that is beyond just what
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they're reading. You have to be an active parent. We can't have the latchkey generation. Again,
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it doesn't work. Kurt, where can people go to get more information about this? Where can they join
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the movement? And thank you, by the way, for leading this and leading this charge. Seriously,
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thank you. Oh, it's my honor to do this and to talk with you, Jack. I have two takeaways.
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They're both at Brave Books. Please go to Brave Books and sign up for See You at the Library.
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We want hundreds of these libraries adopted by you. And then you read a book of your choice to your
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children and the children in your life. Could be any book that you want. My book, Jack's book,
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anybody's book. And then secondly, understand that Brave Books is the one that's putting this
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whole movement on. And one thing you could do to support them is to join their Book of the Month
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Club, which will be an investment in your kids' faith and morality, and send a new book to their
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front door every month with a pro-God, pro-America value. Just go to bravebooks.com,
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Book of the Month Club, and see you at the library.
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See you at the library. I love it. Kirk Cameron, everybody. Thank you so much for your time,
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sir. Thank you so much for your words, your effort, your work, your energy, everything that
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you're doing, not only for yourself, but for the children and the next generation. That is what
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it's all about, folks. I thank God for you, Jack. Have a great day. Take care, Kirk. Look, folks,
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this is what it's all about. Go to Brave Books. I'm up there. By the way, full disclosure, right? Not only do I
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have my own book. We read the books to our kids over at Brave Books. I think I've read every single
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one at this point. I'm not sure because they keep loading new ones. And then every couple of weeks
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in the mail, we get another one out. The story, there is like an overarching story to the whole
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thing, but you don't need to read every book to get that. It's more of like, you know, it's more like a
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shared universe concept. So you'll see little references here and there in between the books.
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But I really encourage everyone to get out there. Look, if we want to win the culture
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war, you have to fight back with culture. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission