Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 523： TRUMP PIVOTS TO GENERAL WITH NEW RALLIES; BODY FOUND AT OBAMA COMPOUND

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00:00:30.000 We are in a fifth generational congruence.

00:00:36.340 For every lie they tell, we're going to get in their face and yell two truths.

00:00:45.660 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.

00:00:48.940 If they don't like Ron DeSanctimonious now, they won't like him any better six months from now with the start of primary season.

00:00:57.080 The more people get to know him, the lower his polls are going.

00:01:01.980 But he deserves it because you're a very disloyal person.

00:01:05.360 Just like you talk about people taking care of each other in small towns.

00:01:10.000 We do the same thing in big towns.

00:01:12.000 Let's be very clear about one thing.

00:01:13.900 Not a single city, community or individual besides the looters really benefited from the BLM protests.

00:01:20.420 They destroyed so many communities and so many livelihoods.

00:01:23.440 Yet we're supposed to just embrace them for that.

00:01:25.780 I don't want to see other agents, FBI, IRS, go through the same thing we went through.

00:01:31.120 We need to have an independent attorney assigned who has authority, who can go in there, bring the proper charges so that there can be some faith restored in our justice system.

00:01:42.860 Right now, the Justice Department is on a lot of pressure.

00:01:45.340 I mean, the argument here essentially is that Joe Biden is using the Justice Department to keep his son out of jail.

00:01:52.600 Government abuses every power that it's given.

00:01:55.260 And if government suddenly has the capacity to censor its critics, it has a license for any atrocity.

00:02:02.180 For Donald Trump himself, he got exactly what he wanted.

00:02:05.800 What we do know is that indictments don't hurt him.

00:02:08.300 They help him.

00:02:08.940 Donald Trump is stronger than he was politically in 2016.

00:02:13.600 I mean, the odds markets had him at 9% of winning the presidency in 2016.

00:02:17.560 Right now, the betting markets have him at something like 30%.

00:02:20.600 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events live with Jack Posobiec.

00:02:26.660 Today is July 24th, 2023.

00:02:30.060 Anno, Domini.

00:02:31.160 Folks, what a weekend.

00:02:32.980 We got a lot to talk about.

00:02:34.920 And so a lot of people are talking about the box office.

00:02:36.960 They're talking about the box office this weekend.

00:02:40.100 Oppenheimer or Barbie.

00:02:41.620 Going to see Oppenheimer or Barbie.

00:02:43.960 Spoiler alert.

00:02:44.880 Wasn't a fan of either.

00:02:46.120 But we need to talk about the actual story at the box office.

00:02:52.160 And that is the Sound of Freedom.

00:02:53.960 Let me give you the numbers in full.

00:02:56.880 Sound of Freedom is now at $125 million U.S. dollars.

00:03:04.060 And that's only with U.S. theaters.

00:03:08.000 Pretty much every other movie out there right now is opening internationally, is opening worldwide.

00:03:13.400 So worldwide numbers on this thing, they haven't even come in yet.

00:03:16.880 When we were at Bedminster last week, we spoke to Eduardo Verostegui right here on this program, and he told us that they're not even projecting to go international until August.

00:03:27.580 So potentially a month away from seeing even bigger numbers drop in, and they're going to focus on Mexico and the Spanish-speaking world.

00:03:35.780 Why does this matter?

00:03:36.680 Because, well, obviously, most of the movie takes place in the Spanish-speaking world.

00:03:40.720 But I think something like 60% of the dialogue in the actual film is obviously in Spanish.

00:03:47.180 But look at this list.

00:03:49.540 This is why Hollywood is losing their minds right now.

00:03:53.000 It's beating Scream 6, The Flash, Megan, Dungeons & Dragons, Evil Dead Rise, Insidious 5, Shazam, Air, Everything Everywhere All at Once.

00:04:04.180 That was an Oscar winner, Fantastic Beasts, Scream 5, Halloween Ends, Woman King, Northman, The Menu, King's Man, Godzilla vs. Kong.

00:04:15.460 It's actually beat Godzilla vs. Kong domestically.

00:04:19.880 Dune, Space Jam 2, The Matrix 4, Wonder Woman 2.

00:04:24.360 These are massive films.

00:04:26.500 Huge franchises.

00:04:27.960 Huge blockbusters.

00:04:29.040 And based on just the domestic numbers alone, just the domestic numbers, Sound of Freedom has beaten every single one of them.

00:04:38.500 I pulled that off of Box Office Mojo over the weekend.

00:04:40.760 I put it up.

00:04:41.680 Tweet went viral.

00:04:42.620 I'm going to retweet it again right here.

00:04:45.060 This is a testament to the power of the Human Events audience, the power of the War Room Posse,

00:04:52.120 and the movement to save our children in the United States.

00:04:57.500 President Trump last week, of course, going up Bedminster, we did the show from there, historic screening of the Sound of Freedom.

00:05:04.760 We had the whole cast there, the producers, everyone was there.

00:05:08.960 That has kicked us into overdrive.

00:05:12.260 These numbers demand a response from Hollywood, and there will be a response.

00:05:16.540 You notice they've stopped attacking it.

00:05:18.600 The attacks have actually wound down because they realized it's too late.

00:05:24.520 Sound of Freedom is already out there.

00:05:25.960 We've got your number.

00:05:28.200 We're coming for all of you.

00:05:30.160 You can't shut this movie down.

00:05:32.600 They had a chance.

00:05:33.800 They sat on this movie for five years.

00:05:36.760 Disney was sitting on this movie.

00:05:38.420 Why was it that Disney wouldn't let Sound of Freedom be released?

00:05:43.000 Kind of interesting.

00:05:44.280 I don't know.

00:05:45.360 But folks, I want to tell you something right now.

00:05:49.000 Keep seeing this movie.

00:05:51.260 Keep buying tickets.

00:05:52.140 If you find someone in your life that hasn't seen Sound of Freedom yet, drag them to the movie theater and have them watch it.

00:05:57.200 Buy their ticket for them if you have to.

00:05:58.680 Use the pay it forward system.

00:06:00.300 Continue pushing this movie because we don't know yet.

00:06:03.880 We don't know how far it's going to go.

00:06:05.540 We know how much it's going to know.

00:06:06.740 But word of mouth is amazing on this.

00:06:08.740 It's going up week on week.

00:06:10.680 So we've seen an increase into week two, increase into week three.

00:06:13.660 That's not usually what happens.

00:06:15.240 People like this because beyond the subject material, it's actually a good movie.

00:06:19.620 And they're freaking out because they don't know what to do.

00:06:23.680 I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.

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00:07:49.880 First time back in a little bit since we've been going live, ladies and gentlemen, Gavin Wax, the chairman of the New York Young Republicans, who was also there last week with us in Bedminster at the Sound of Freedom.

00:08:01.300 Gavin, how did you like that event last week?

00:08:05.340 Jack, it was great seeing you there.

00:08:06.760 It was a great event.

00:08:07.580 The energy was fantastic.

00:08:09.520 You know, it was a private screening largely for members of Trump's Bedminster Club.

00:08:14.420 But it was a larger event than anything we've seen on the primary trail from many of his opponents thus far.

00:08:20.120 But it was you could feel the emotion.

00:08:23.420 You could feel, you know, the sentiments in the I can't even say the room because it was outside.

00:08:28.100 But you get my drift.

00:08:29.540 You could feel the sentiments from people watching this film and how it really touches people's hearts, how it really inflames the emotions.

00:08:35.860 And we saw President Trump in the front row watching the entire thing from beginning to end.

00:08:41.060 Arms crossed, took it in.

00:08:43.420 And as you pointed out on Twitter, the very next day or maybe two days later, I forget the timeline.

00:08:47.980 He came out.

00:08:48.580 He said death penalty for child traffickers.

00:08:51.640 So we love to see this happening.

00:08:53.260 We love to see, you know, the radicalization continue, if you will.

00:08:57.280 But the movie was beautiful.

00:08:58.700 It was it was incredibly well made.

00:09:00.180 It's a shame that it took this long to hit movie theaters, especially since it's been a unifying type of film.

00:09:07.000 It hasn't been really a partisan film.

00:09:09.300 It's been a film that's been bringing the country together on what many should accept as a very reprehensible, disgusting facet of modern society, which is this human trafficking crisis coming through our porous southern border.

00:09:20.680 And we need to get real about it.

00:09:21.960 We need to tackle it.

00:09:22.700 And we need to understand the victims and all the lives impacted by this horrible, horrible plague on modern society.

00:09:28.780 So, Gavin, you were up there with the president.

00:09:32.460 You know, I shared my recollections and my observations.

00:09:36.180 Obviously, members of the campaign were there.

00:09:37.980 I had a chance to speak with some.

00:09:39.120 I'm sure you would speak to some as well.

00:09:41.840 I think the general sense within the Trump campaign is that the primary is over.

00:09:46.760 That was my assessment.

00:09:48.000 And that they are starting to move into general election focus.

00:09:51.500 Obviously, you're seeing you're seeing that this weekend because President Trump is announcing a rally up in Pennsylvania.

00:09:58.880 Now, Pennsylvania is not an early state when it comes to the primaries, but it is an important state for it is probably one of the most important states for the general.

00:10:07.140 That Rust Belt, Erie County area where he's going to be drawing in people potentially from Ohio, because it's right across the border.

00:10:13.360 So, that being said, what is the next phase of the campaign for President Trump, if he's able, or at least in terms of how they're thinking based on your recollections and assessments,

00:10:25.560 do you think they're prepared for everything, not just that Joe Biden and his team are going to throw at him, but the regime is going to throw at him?

00:10:33.640 Gavin Wax.

00:10:34.900 Well, listen, I agree with everything, how you laid it out.

00:10:37.360 I think the primary is effectively over.

00:10:39.100 I think on the DeSantis side, they've entered a kamikaze stage, just trying to take down as many people with them, and they're sinking poll numbers.

00:10:44.900 And I think the Trump campaign is happy to, you know, take some funny dunks here or there.

00:10:48.820 But effectively, effectively, as you said, this primary is over, and they are now repositioning themselves for the general, which I think is a great strategy.

00:10:56.580 We've seen the polls, been pretty neck and neck.

00:10:58.680 We've never seen a Trump poll like this in 16 or 2020.

00:11:01.980 So, I think we have a historical basis to believe that his coalition going into 2024 will be his most robust to date, incumbent versus incumbent.

00:11:11.220 We haven't seen this type of election since Grover Cleveland.

00:11:13.660 And you bring up the rally in Erie.

00:11:15.460 I mean, this is a purple county in a purple state, and this is really the keystone, the keystone, if you will, to flipping the country back into the hands of Republicans at the presidential level.

00:11:26.700 So, what I'm seeing is they are making that shift.

00:11:29.020 They are beginning to reposition themselves.

00:11:30.940 But, again, this is going to be a very unique election cycle.

00:11:34.800 We're not just focused on the primary.

00:11:36.280 We're not just focused on the general election.

00:11:37.800 We're also focused on the concurrent fight with the deep state apparatus, with the regime, you know, the weaponized DOJ, where they're indicting him left, right, and center.

00:11:47.080 I've yet to hear an argument why they would be doing that unless they were scared of him.

00:11:50.220 But, you know, that's for another time.

00:11:51.760 But, yes, the DOJ, all these politicized indictments, the weaponized judicial system coming after the president, I don't believe it's going to, you know, keep him off the ballot.

00:12:01.440 But I certainly think it's going to be designed to drain his coffers, to drain his resources, and to drain his time.

00:12:07.480 It's being used as a stunting mechanism to stunt the campaign, you know, before it can really even take off into the general election.

00:12:14.780 I don't think it's worked like they would have intended from a PR perspective.

00:12:18.960 I mean, I think the donor class, the super PACs, you know, the people backing DeSantis really convinced themselves that these indictments would have had an impact of, you know, sinking his approval rating, sinking his poll numbers in the primary and the general.

00:12:31.500 We actually haven't seen that.

00:12:33.020 It actually hasn't hurt him from a polling perspective.

00:12:35.600 If anything, it's strengthened him, certainly within the Republican Party, as a martyr.

00:12:39.500 But what I think it's really now being designed to do, I think their secondary task, is to drain much-needed resources from this campaign.

00:12:46.780 And I think that's really the fight that we're in.

00:12:49.420 I have the full confidence in the campaign to be able to tackle this, to be able to fight back against it.

00:12:53.760 I mean, this has been a very lean operation, the Trump campaign so far.

00:12:57.140 It's a lean, effective operation where they've just hit the ground running, gone against these well-funded opponents, not just Ron DeSantis, but also the Tim Scots of the world and whoever.

00:13:06.800 And they've just been able to crush them with sort of a skeleton crew, a very effective, competent skeleton crew.

00:13:11.680 You haven't seen any unforced errors in the primary or even as far as the general election posturing.

00:13:17.520 So this leaves a lot of room to be optimistic.

00:13:19.940 And again, if we look at the historical analysis to bring up the polls, it goes to show that he's going into 2024 in the strongest position he's ever been going into one of his elections.

00:13:28.840 And I think, you know, the only variable here that's a little novel, that's new, are these indictments.

00:13:35.140 But I think overall, the impact on the general election will be negligible outside of the drain of the resources and money and funds from the Trump campaign.

00:13:42.900 Well, that being said, it's going to be more than just funds because, and I'm just going to say it, that in the same way that they went after Steve Bannon in Washington, D.C., they've gone after Stone and Flynn and Pappadova.

00:13:57.720 Everybody knows the list.

00:13:58.760 OK, everybody knows the list at this point.

00:14:00.060 If they're able to get Donald Trump in a courtroom in Washington, D.C. over this January 6th or one of these other things, I don't think there is any chance that a D.C. jury acquits Donald Trump of anything.

00:14:15.640 They could they could charge him a jaywalking.

00:14:17.140 They could charge him with, you know, shooting somebody without evidence.

00:14:20.140 They would find him guilty in Washington, D.C. because there's so much palpable Trump hatred there.

00:14:25.160 So is he prepared? And to your point, I don't think they'll be able to get him off the ballot that might go to the Supreme Court.

00:14:31.500 What should conservatives be prepared for, though, if Trump is actually convicted in any of these cases?

00:14:39.700 No, listen, I absolutely agree with you.

00:14:41.520 I mean, legally speaking, it's definitely going to be tough.

00:14:44.360 I think this is a race against time.

00:14:45.760 I think, you know, delaying action here is really the name of the game, you know, pushing these trials back, pushing, you know, all of these matters back as far as possible to make sure that he's won the primary.

00:14:56.680 He's on the ballot for the general election and fighting many of the separate measures that could be happening through rules changes, through bylaw changes, through fights at the conventions.

00:15:06.900 Anything that the establishment can sort of dig up to tie his candidacy and tie his ability to be on the ballot to the status of these cases.

00:15:15.160 I think those are something that we can't let fall by the wayside.

00:15:18.540 But listen, I think right now we need to get him into the White House.

00:15:21.660 We need to get him elected.

00:15:22.560 I think that is the best guarantee going forward, because I agree with you.

00:15:26.580 I think he's never going to get a fair trial.

00:15:28.220 And I think a lot of these things, we're going to need injunctions.

00:15:30.560 We're going to need to move straight to the Supreme Court, where I think a lot of these matters will end up.

00:15:34.980 It's going to be a long, ripe, rocky road.

00:15:37.640 It's certainly going to be very messy.

00:15:39.620 It's really going to destroy the last ounces of legitimacy most Americans have in our judicial and legal system.

00:15:46.180 But, you know, at the end of the day, I think it's a wake up call for most Americans.

00:15:49.020 And I think we need to continue to stand by the president.

00:15:51.780 We need to show his support.

00:15:53.100 We need to get behind him.

00:15:54.040 We need to rally for him.

00:15:54.940 We need to peacefully assemble, exercising all of our, you know, rights that we have as Americans and not be scared to do so.

00:16:01.920 But it's certainly going to be a rocky road.

00:16:03.900 I think ultimately he will prevail.

00:16:06.800 I am optimistic.

00:16:07.760 And I think that's the best thing we could be right now because I think a lot of this is designed to be a demoralization campaign.

00:16:13.680 They want you to think it's over.

00:16:15.120 They want you to think that the battle is already done, that there's nothing we can do.

00:16:18.140 And to go home, to stay home, to not support the president, to not come out and voice your opinion.

00:16:23.460 They want you to think the game is up.

00:16:24.740 It's rigged.

00:16:25.200 I think that's part of their power projection.

00:16:27.240 And I think there's actually a lot of holes in their legal arguments, obviously.

00:16:31.460 Whether or not we could get a fair jury or a fair judge is another question.

00:16:36.040 But, again, there's always recourse.

00:16:37.360 There's legal recourse.

00:16:38.460 And moving these things up to the Supreme Court is always going to be on the table.

00:16:41.680 So it's going to be a rocky road.

00:16:44.080 I'm sure they have a lot more up their sleeve, not just for the legal cases, but also for things that could come down to, you know, manipulating results in terms of how they're going to have the voter laws structured.

00:16:53.420 You know what they're going to do to reform or not reform, rather, some of the systems in place going into 2024.

00:16:59.520 I mean, this is going to be the battle, this, like, boss battle, if you will, for the heart and soul of our republic.

00:17:05.680 And they're going to pull out all the stops this cycle to ensure that they can try to defeat Trump and his new coalition.

00:17:12.180 And I think it's going to come down to the wire.

00:17:14.680 But we have to be vigilant.

00:17:15.480 We have to stay on top of all these different issues and how they're all, you know, interconnected.

00:17:19.500 And going forward, that's just going to be the name of the game for Republicans.

00:17:22.920 And, again, if you simply think, if you're someone on the sidelines who doesn't like Trump and you think it's going to end with Trump, I mean, you're deluded.

00:17:29.700 I mean, this is a trial run, if you will.

00:17:32.000 This is something that they are testing to see if they can set a precedent, if they can set a game plan going forward to knock out anyone who will be a threat to the system at large.

00:17:40.780 And if they succeed with Trump, you know, it's going to put us in a really, really tough place as a nation if we weren't already there.

00:17:47.980 So we can't allow them to set that kind of horrible precedent with these cases, with whatever they're doing in the courts and in the state legislatures.

00:17:56.380 Kevin, we're coming up on a break, but I want to hold you on that because I think that's exactly right.

00:18:00.600 Because people need to understand if the Department of Justice is able to decide who is allowed to run for office in the United States,

00:18:08.560 if they decide that they can do this to any candidate, any future leader, then that means that every other future leader will not be one who is a threat to the police state in this country.

00:18:20.960 Stay tuned. Coming up next with more from Gavin Wax.

00:18:24.940 I encourage people to, if you're interested in foreign policy, you've got to follow Jack Sovick.

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00:19:53.000 We're going to get back to our interview with Gavin Wax, the head of the New York Young Republicans.

00:19:57.480 Now, Gavin, when you're talking to people across the country, you interface with a lot of other Young Republican chapters,

00:20:03.960 a lot of other groups around, young adult activists, like we had at Turning Point last week.

00:20:09.660 One thing that I want people to understand is that, and I hear this all the time, that they say,

00:20:16.380 well, you know, Trump's got too much baggage, and if you nominate Trump, there's going to be no way to win the general

00:20:23.500 because independence will be turned off if he is found convicted in one or multiples of these cases.

00:20:31.840 And I'm saying right now, people need to understand that is what's coming.

00:20:36.460 The media will have a steady drumbeat of convicted criminal, convicted criminal, convicted criminal.

00:20:42.360 That is their playbook.

00:20:44.800 How do you go to somebody then who's one of those voters that says,

00:20:48.720 I don't know about this guy, and get them to come on board?

00:20:54.400 Well, listen, I reject their narrative.

00:20:57.360 I mean, I'm not seeing that in the numbers.

00:20:59.220 Again, it's going to show that he has been gaining ground,

00:21:02.700 that he has been strengthening his position in the general election as time has gone on.

00:21:06.620 He's been neck and neck in the RCP average.

00:21:09.000 Will an actual conviction change that?

00:21:11.920 I suppose you could make an argument, but we're really getting into hypotheticals here.

00:21:15.460 I think at the end of the day, for these people on the sidelines,

00:21:18.260 you have to make it very clear to them what time they're living in.

00:21:20.600 And it doesn't matter who is going to be running.

00:21:22.720 Anyone who is an actual threat, anyone who's actually going to bring about real positive change

00:21:26.860 in the way President Trump did in his first term, his first term under massive duress,

00:21:31.180 I may add, is they're going to come up with baggage.

00:21:33.960 They're going to construct baggage.

00:21:35.760 They're going to nail them one way or another.

00:21:38.280 And that's what really these indictments are. 0.99

00:21:40.200 I mean, the New York indictment is absolutely pathetic. 0.74

00:21:43.380 I mean, if you look at it, I mean, they're charging him for the furtherance of a crime, 0.93

00:21:46.540 but they don't even state what the underlying crime is.

00:21:49.500 It's all just legalistic nonsense and unproven legal theory.

00:21:55.100 So at the end of the day, we are entering a period of time in our country where they're

00:21:58.540 trying to set a precedent that they can knock out a political opponent, the leader of the

00:22:04.120 opposition, and come up with any, no pun intended, trumped up charges to do it.

00:22:09.200 And if you're allowing that to happen, if you're going to cede ground, if you're going to accept

00:22:12.840 the left's frame, the establishment's frame, then we're never going to be in a position again

00:22:17.360 to retake the reins of government and power in this country.

00:22:20.640 We're never going to be in a position to bring about an American national renewal because

00:22:23.940 any figure in a post-Trump America will be subject to the same tactics and the same playbook

00:22:30.320 that they have now used against the president.

00:22:32.900 So we need to set the stage now that this cannot happen, that this will not work, that

00:22:36.740 it will not be allowed to continue.

00:22:39.380 And I honestly would love to see some serious reforms passed legislatively to protect presidents

00:22:45.660 and candidates from this kind of nonsense going forward.

00:22:49.740 I think that would be a common sense reform, but we're not even at that stage in terms of

00:22:53.640 talking about it.

00:22:54.440 But it is a sad state of affairs, and I think most people need to realize that they are trying

00:22:58.720 to create the narrative that this makes him unelectable.

00:23:00.940 And I think fundamentally, to answer your question, there is no quantitative data to back that up.

00:23:06.220 What we are seeing is that he's only been strengthened in the primary, in the general, and he is the

00:23:10.380 best candidate in the Republican field to retake the White House, bar none.

00:23:14.040 Well, look, and to be honest, I think that's why you can see from the campaign's perspective,

00:23:19.840 they know that Biden only won, and to get into the fact that all of the mail-in ballot

00:23:27.480 laws were thrown completely out the window during COVID, that he only won by marginal

00:23:32.740 votes in marginal margins in these areas.

00:23:35.960 Marginal margins, that's a great word.

00:23:37.120 That when you talk about 10,000, 12,000, 15,000 in a few of these areas, Georgia, Arizona,

00:23:43.520 Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, well, Michigan was more, but Wisconsin, that you would have

00:23:49.780 the ability.

00:23:50.600 That's why I think the campaign is willing to take time and effort and resources away from

00:23:57.480 some of those early warnings to early voting states, because like Iowa, like South Carolina,

00:24:02.480 like New Hampshire, that they're going directly back to the Rust Belt to start building the

00:24:08.100 infrastructure there in order to win over those specific states.

00:24:11.740 Because I think there's, I think there's a disconnect here of people saying, talking about

00:24:16.580 the election as if it's in some kind of vacuum when it's not in a vacuum.

00:24:20.880 It happens in the 50 states.

00:24:23.060 We know where the swing states are.

00:24:24.420 We know where the purple states are.

00:24:25.580 We know where the battlegrounds are.

00:24:27.380 That's why that's exactly where they're going.

00:24:29.580 Where are you, and I know this has been a debated topic, but where are you on this question

00:24:34.120 of early voting, ballot harvesting, ballot chase, all of the rest of that, the Scott Pressler

00:24:40.240 question?

00:24:41.740 Listen, my view has remained the same.

00:24:44.160 Anything that is a legal electoral strategy, we should be taking advantage of.

00:24:48.780 And then once we're in a position of power to change the laws, I'm absolutely in favor

00:24:51.940 of changing them.

00:24:52.840 But we can't complain about the rules of the game as they've been set and try to win with

00:24:57.100 our hand tied behind their back.

00:24:58.220 That's us going into a gunfight with a knife, and that's how the Democrats want us to play,

00:25:02.660 with one hand tied behind our back and bringing the wrong weapon to said fight.

00:25:06.900 Right now, if there are states that allow the ballot harvesting, if they allow certain

00:25:11.700 mail-in rules, whatever it may be, take advantage of them to the fullest extent possible.

00:25:15.800 And we have seen a record of Republican parties in various states where these things have been

00:25:20.220 allowed, and they have taken advantage of them, see some success.

00:25:23.140 Now, I totally understand the argument that these are not great systems to have for an

00:25:28.540 election, and we should certainly reform them when and where we can.

00:25:32.460 But in the interim, we have to use all the tools at our disposal and fight tooth and nail

00:25:37.880 on the margins to make sure that this race is timed up.

00:25:40.760 And I also want to bring up the point that you opened with that, yeah, 2020 was a historic

00:25:45.360 race.

00:25:45.720 It was an unprecedented race.

00:25:47.400 You know, you had basically a color revolution in this country.

00:25:50.080 You had a global pandemic, plandemic, whatever you want to call it.

00:25:53.160 And, you know, the summer of love.

00:25:55.400 You know, I don't think any incumbent president would have fared better than President Trump

00:25:59.880 did under those circumstances.

00:26:01.080 And we are not going to have a 2020-style election in 2024.

00:26:05.720 We are going to have an incumbent whose favorability continues to tank with an economy that continues

00:26:10.540 to remain sluggish, with a global, you know, foreign policy, you know, situation in shambles.

00:26:16.660 All of these things are going to work to President Trump's advantage, particularly in the Rust Belt.

00:26:20.920 And like you mentioned, we're talking about 40,000 votes split across three states.

00:26:26.760 This is not some electoral insurmountable odds that we're facing here.

00:26:31.400 This is a matter of, you know, running a campaign well, tackling all these issues, you know,

00:26:36.420 you know, in a coherent manner, and we could certainly win this election if we stay united.

00:26:41.600 But I think there is a concerted effort by the establishment, by the left,

00:26:45.440 to divide the Republican Party in this primary and to put President Trump

00:26:48.580 in the weakest possible position going into the general,

00:26:51.560 because they know he fares the best out of anyone against Biden.

00:26:56.280 And I think the Rust Belt will again prove to be the path for him to retake the White House. 0.70

00:27:02.580 And there's simply no other candidate who has the appeal to the Rust Belt,

00:27:05.700 who has the appeal to these nonpartisan voters, these voters who are really just Trump voters.

00:27:10.960 They are, you know, first-time voters.

00:27:12.720 And at the end of the day, Trump recreated the electoral map.

00:27:15.780 He brought entire new cohorts into the coalition, entire new cohorts into the electoral landscape.

00:27:22.140 He didn't just look at the pieces on the table and say, what pieces I have to take.

00:27:25.520 He picked up handfuls of new pieces and threw them on the table and won that way.

00:27:29.860 And no one has that strategy.

00:27:31.280 It's not going to be suburban reversion in northern Virginia or the Atlanta suburbs.

00:27:35.140 It's going to be a strategy of broadening the coalition, creating this emerging populist coalition

00:27:40.480 in places like Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

00:27:43.540 And that's going to be the acceleration of the realignment that allows Republicans

00:27:47.620 to actually have comfortable wins at the national level again,

00:27:50.900 rather than relying on old and 20 years out of date coalitions that are no longer voting for us.

00:27:56.460 And I think there's a lot of lag in the understanding within the Republican hierarchy about where the pulse

00:28:01.880 of the party is at the president.

00:28:03.780 It's not in the country clubs.

00:28:05.480 It's not in, you know, these wealthy upper middle class suburbs.

00:28:08.340 It's in these working class Rust Belt towns, these working class areas in Appalachia or the Deep South.

00:28:14.460 That is the new coalition that we need to move forward with.

00:28:16.740 And we can start winning elections again if we embrace it.

00:28:19.180 But up until now, no one has embraced it except President Donald J. Trump.

00:28:23.640 Gavin, a couple of minutes left.

00:28:25.200 What do the young Republicans have coming up throughout this year to get ready for 2024?

00:28:30.660 Do you have any elections?

00:28:31.660 Do you have any organizations going on, any movements?

00:28:35.100 What's in the cards?

00:28:37.360 Absolutely.

00:28:37.900 Well, here locally in New York City, we have local elections for city council.

00:28:40.860 The club has been at the forefront of electing many members of the city council,

00:28:44.380 Queens and Brooklyn, the outer boroughs.

00:28:45.960 You know, most of them are members of the club now.

00:28:48.280 Their offices are staffed with club members.

00:28:50.240 We're going to be continuing that tradition.

00:28:51.540 We have several races that we are hitting the ground, running on, deploying for, door knocking for, canvassing for.

00:28:56.280 So it's going to be a fun electoral cycle.

00:28:58.280 But on the fun side, we have a lot of great events coming up, namely our 111th annual gala.

00:29:02.640 This is going to be our last gala before the election.

00:29:05.860 So hopefully it's going to be a good one.

00:29:07.300 We're going to have a great send off going into 2024.

00:29:10.320 That is December 9th, 2023.

00:29:12.520 You, in the past, have been an honoree, an awardee, a guest speaker, a keynote at our gala.

00:29:19.220 This is a beautiful, yes, a beautiful black tie affair.

00:29:23.020 We're expecting 600, 700 people.

00:29:24.680 We're going to be at Cipriani Wall Street, which is the largest and, frankly, I think most prestigious venue in the city of New York.

00:29:31.540 We're going to have a great lineup of speakers.

00:29:33.040 You're going to be returning as an honored guest, along with the greats like Steve Bannon and many others that are soon to be announced.

00:29:38.880 So we're looking forward to a great event to send off the new year and hopefully celebrate a primary that will be wrapping up very soon and a general election that we will be securing with great gusto, which I fully expect to happen.

00:29:54.380 So if you're interested, NYYRC's 111th annual gala, December 9th in New York City, in the belly of the beast, wear your finest and come and show support and rub shoulders with all the right wing's biggest villains and antiheroes.

00:30:10.380 The biggest heroes and antiheroes.

00:30:13.640 Man, I remember the last time we held the event there, MSNBC lost their minds for a week, Gavin.

00:30:19.080 They lost their minds for a week.

00:30:20.260 Gavin Wax, you continue to trigger all the right people.

00:30:23.960 Thank you for your time today.

00:30:25.040 Thank you for being on and joining us here at Human Events.

00:30:27.700 Thank you, sir.

00:30:28.440 God bless.

00:30:30.040 All right.

00:30:30.280 God bless.

00:30:31.000 All right.

00:30:31.220 Next up, folks, we've got Raheem Kassam.

00:30:34.060 He is going to be on the road.

00:30:35.760 Stay tuned because we are going to walk through some of the numbers and the new data that have come out to us over the weekend.

00:30:43.360 Some things we had corroboration on information.

00:30:45.980 Other places, we've got new information and we're only at least you can find it.

00:30:49.520 It's Human Events.

00:30:50.120 Stay tuned.

00:30:52.740 Stop buzzing in my ear about the boring people at your office.

00:30:56.340 I'm trying to listen to the new human events with Jack Posobiec.

00:31:01.240 All right.

00:31:01.760 Jack Posobiec, we're going to work on getting Raheem Kassam.

00:31:03.620 Breaking news out of the Obama's Martha's Vineyard compound, a 911 call.

00:31:14.280 So I'll just give you the news as it is.

00:31:16.340 This is obviously a breaking situation.

00:31:18.660 So stay tuned for any potential updates in this.

00:31:22.780 A paddleboarder, black male, 43, missing in Martha's Vineyard, paddling outside the Edgartown Great Pond.

00:31:34.000 A 911 call was made from the Obama compound, Martha's Vineyard, late last night while they were looking for this individual who I do not believe has yet to be named.

00:31:47.860 He was paddleboarding.

00:31:49.960 He was not wearing a life jacket.

00:31:52.400 His paddleboard and hat were recovered on Sunday, about 100 feet away from the shore earlier this morning.

00:32:04.240 The dispatch address for the incident came from Obama's Martha's Vineyard Waterfront home, and it is unclear if the former president, 61, is currently staying at the estate.

00:32:16.620 A massive response force from local law enforcement, from the Coast Guard, from others, went in multiple agencies.

00:32:25.460 I imagine Secret Service would have been involved in this to some extent as well because, of course, we are talking about a former president.

00:32:31.180 Some of the information that came out to us, the investigation into what they are now calling a fatality, was being conducted and is being conducted by the Massachusetts State Police Detective Unit for the Cape and Islands District and Edgartown Police.

00:32:45.780 The U.S. Coast Guard, the Edgartown Fire, Air Wing Detectives, Dukes County Sheriff's Department were all part of the rescue mission.

00:32:52.820 So it does say now that a body was discovered early this morning, mid-morning, around 10 a.m.

00:33:01.980 So at 10 a.m., a body was found.

00:33:04.860 And this is in that same area about 100 feet away from the shoreline.

00:33:09.780 It said that the individual, black male, 43, was still no ID, no ID on this individual.

00:33:15.440 So we're going to see if there is a way to pull this up because we'd like to obviously know who this was.

00:33:22.940 Was this a house guest?

00:33:24.080 Was this someone who was staying for the summer with Barack Obama and the Obama family?

00:33:29.520 Was it a friend or potentially was it someone who could have been involved either in politics or one of the campaigns or just a completely separate other family friend of the Obamas?

00:33:46.160 But obviously anything going on with this Obama's Martha's Vineyard situation is going to get high scrutiny.

00:33:55.680 It does seem that there has been a fatality at Barack Obama's home there, the compound in Martha's Vineyard.

00:34:04.900 The Obama Foundation has yet to release a comment yet.

00:34:09.440 So we're going to stay tuned with this as it develops here, human events.

00:34:13.120 I'm told that we do have Raheem Kassam on.

00:34:15.620 Raheem, do we have you?

00:34:21.700 No, guys, I'm not hearing Raheem there.

00:34:23.180 All right, so now we're going to continue on with this because, folks, here's the situation that we're looking at.

00:34:30.440 We're going to work on getting Raheem, but there were some articles that came out over the weekend.

00:34:34.480 I was going to ask Raheem about this when he was on, particularly describing the mood within the DeSantis camp, the mood within the DeSantis campaign.

00:34:43.900 So we've heard multiple times about reboots.

00:34:47.040 We've heard multiple times now about the potential for rebranding, restructuring.

00:34:51.180 There was a speech, a series, really, of events and speeches that were given last week and held last week about rebooting.

00:34:58.200 But at the same time, we have yet to see, we've yet to see any response in the polls off of this.

00:35:06.600 We had Vivek Ramaswamy here on this show on Friday.

00:35:10.380 And I asked him tough questions.

00:35:13.260 I asked him serious questions.

00:35:14.700 I was respectful.

00:35:15.920 I wasn't trying to.

00:35:17.360 I didn't ask any gotcha questions.

00:35:19.380 You know, I didn't say, you know, who are the top five worst, you know, members of the CCP or something like that.

00:35:24.940 No, I'm not trying to do the gotcha thing.

00:35:26.520 But we asked him serious questions about his position on vaccines, his position on red flag laws, his position on legal immigration, not just illegal immigration, but also legal immigration.

00:35:37.120 Because I've said before that in the new right, the two defining issues of the new right are trade and immigration, trade and immigration.

00:35:49.380 And whether you listen to Michael Savage in the past, border language culture, whether you listen to Rush Limbaugh, who was, of course, the Institute of Democracy, the EIB, this is the intellectual bedrock of the new right, as well as Andrew Breitbart.

00:36:06.220 But when it comes down to an issues-based focus, those are the two issues at the core of the movement.

00:36:13.160 And I believe, and I said this at CPAC with David Marcus, I said it at AmericaFest, these are the two main issues that are the bedrock of what makes the MAGA movement and the new right separate from your old school Republican politics.

00:36:29.860 And your old school Republican politics is basically this.

00:36:32.960 We're conservative.

00:36:34.620 They're liberal.

00:36:35.380 We are conservative.

00:36:36.340 They are liberal.

00:36:37.400 It's very ideology-driven.

00:36:39.740 It's not exactly pragmatic.

00:36:42.520 And this was a difference between, I believe, where Trump came in using his clout, his social renown, his celebrity status, his business status, to be able to come forward and then also state that he wasn't going to talk about specifically ideological issues, that he was going to come in and talk about practical issues.

00:37:03.780 So things like tax rates, while they're important, they weren't necessarily the centerpiece of the MAGA movement.

00:37:15.960 And they certainly weren't the centerpiece of Trump 2016.

00:37:18.240 And that's why you're starting now to see a Trump 2024 campaign that's built along the lines of that 2016 campaign, but in full.

00:37:29.480 Why?

00:37:31.480 Because people understand that if you were going to be a conservative in 2024, you must be against wokeness.

00:37:39.760 You have to be against wokeness. 1.00

00:37:40.900 It is the prerequisite.

00:37:42.040 If there is an R next to your name, or if you're running as a populist in any way, then you have to be against wokeness. 0.76

00:37:49.540 That's what gets you through the door.

00:37:51.760 That's the entry fee.

00:37:52.620 And so if you're going to brand your entire campaign as I'm against wokeness, it's good, but it's not good enough because there aren't enough players involved because they've found what it is to be different.

00:38:11.160 They've found a politician and they've seen a politician hold that practical difference and hold that leadership differently than all other political career politician creatures that came before.

00:38:28.200 When President Trump came in, he talked about what he talked about the price of gas and he tied it directly to geopolitics.

00:38:34.120 That's something that we're seeing right now in the middle of this summer, as gas prices are currently going up, as gas prices are currently going up, this is an issue.

00:38:49.540 So what does the electorate do?

00:38:55.260 My interview with Breitbart dropped over the weekend, and I'm going to repeat it again here.

00:39:01.140 I believe that the DeSantis campaign fundamentally misread the Republican electorate.

00:39:11.400 They thought that the Republican electorate would be more interested in a candidate that was more ideologically driven like previous politicians, like a Ted Cruz, like maybe a Rick Santorum.

00:39:26.440 Full disclosure, I used to work for Rick Santorum, my first job, first boss in politics, years and years ago, almost 16 years ago now.

00:39:37.160 But that's just it.

00:39:38.340 And the Fox News poll bears this out over the weekend.

00:39:41.400 The Fox News poll that came out focusing on Iowa and South Carolina, what did it say?

00:39:47.260 Top issue, 51% of primary voters, economy.

00:39:51.620 This was the top issue.

00:39:55.460 Trade and immigration obviously are both focused on economy.

00:40:00.200 War, by the way, so every time I bring this up about my thesis of the two issues, people say, well, what about war?

00:40:07.020 What about foreign policy?

00:40:07.980 Ah, war is a function of trade policy.

00:40:13.120 War is a function of trade policy.

00:40:15.300 Why is this?

00:40:16.040 Now, we know that immigration is a function of war and foreign policy because obviously the last time that Europe and many of the United States were forced to take in so many migrants was because of the Syrian crisis.

00:40:28.820 But it turned out they weren't even Syrians that were coming across the border.

00:40:31.820 These were people that were just trying to come in across the border on economic migration, the same way they do across the southern border.

00:40:38.520 The same people that Barack Obama took away the DNA requirements because they called it family separation before.

00:40:44.660 No, there were DNA requirements to make sure that these weren't trafficked children.

00:40:48.300 That's another story.

00:40:50.000 But when I tie to it, because trade directly defines your relationship with other countries.

00:40:56.280 And for the longest time, the United States and the West pushed this one world government vision of the World Trade Organization, the IMF, and Ukraine was going to be sucked into that.

00:41:09.000 And everybody was going to be part of it.

00:41:10.280 And we were all going to live together under the one world government.

00:41:12.480 And guess what?

00:41:13.280 It is completely collapsing all around us.

00:41:16.920 That is why we are in the situation we're in right now.

00:41:20.060 Stay tuned.

00:41:20.380 Right back.

00:41:20.760 Human Defense.

00:41:21.080 Now, speaking of when we were talking about the fact that America is now in a state of collapse, I do think that that is a fundamental misread that many Republican strategists have been making over the time frame where people are saying,

00:41:49.640 Oh, well, they want someone who's more ideologically driven.

00:41:52.520 They want someone who's focused on conservative ideology.

00:41:55.420 They want someone who perhaps is more of a history in government.

00:41:58.760 But at the same time, you have to understand America is in a state of collapse, a fundamental state of collapse.

00:42:06.480 This is why crime is up.

00:42:08.340 This is why when you look out on the street, there's anger.

00:42:11.400 There's just more anger in everyday life, whether you're going out for fast food, whether you're in a drive-thru line, whether you're driving around, road rage incidents are completely up.

00:42:25.060 Policing, by the way, is down, which is a function of the racial reckoning of George Floyd.

00:42:30.960 So policing is down.

00:42:32.620 Policing on the roadways is down.

00:42:35.640 People are angry.

00:42:36.640 Go look at air travel, by the way.

00:42:38.200 Air travel is a complete mess.

00:42:40.040 We've got to get, hey, producer Fos, we've got to get, we've got to get Savannah Hernandez on this, this week to talk about air travel because she couldn't even get out of the state of Florida over the week. 0.96

00:42:51.120 She couldn't even get out.

00:42:53.220 Couldn't get out for days.

00:42:54.660 Stuck in Florida, bouncing between Miami and Orlando and everything else.

00:42:58.040 All of this is occurring while America's military and America's foreign policy are so completely overextended that we're, we're now far more worried about what's going on in the Donbass region.

00:43:16.180 What's happening in the Suvalki Gap, what's happening in, you know, the, the Sea of Azov, what's happening in, on the Danube River, which, which was bombed last night by, by Russian forces.

00:43:30.260 We don't focus on what's important to American citizens, what's important here at home.

00:43:36.920 Why?

00:43:37.200 Because we've put so many interests ahead of those of Americans.

00:43:43.480 And this is why in places like the Rust Belt, in places like Appalachia, in places like the Midwest, the South, you've seen the United States completely gutted out.

00:43:53.040 And how do I tie the two together?

00:43:56.080 It's very simple.

00:43:57.720 It's actually extremely simple.

00:43:59.740 What you do is you say, well, if NATO equipment is being sent to Ukraine to fight on behalf of the Ukrainian army, essentially operating as a proxy force for NATO against Russia.

00:44:15.620 That equipment is destroyed, tanks, bombs, munitions, artillery, as President Biden mentioned to us last week.

00:44:26.820 The question then becomes, how is it replenished?

00:44:30.900 How are our stockpiles replenished?

00:44:33.100 Now, in the parlance of the neocons, they'll say, oh, well, we're degrading Russia, we're degrading Russia, we're taking down, you know, our relative gain, our relative standing is going up because we're degrading the Russian military.

00:44:47.280 And as the Washington Post said over the weekend, all it costs is a few Ukrainian lives.

00:44:53.440 They actually said that.

00:44:54.700 They actually said that in the weekend.

00:44:57.080 But here's another cost.

00:44:59.720 What about the cost of the United States?

00:45:01.500 We don't have the manufacturing base in this country that we used to have.

00:45:07.680 We outsourced it.

00:45:09.500 We decided that we were going to drop our comparative labor for the comparative labor advantage of the slave labor of China. 0.93

00:45:20.000 And in the China files, we broke all this down.

00:45:22.220 So we went for the slave labor of China over American workers that directly affected America's not only capacity to build this equipment for the future, but it also affects America's capacity to retain wealth and maintain wealth here at home.

00:45:43.480 And you look at the crisis that we're in, the crisis of the millennium, the millennium crisis.

00:45:52.860 Whether you want to say it started all the way back on 9-11 or whether it started during the financial crisis, 07-08, and the way we respond to that with massive reinvestment money printing at the Fed.

00:46:09.080 Quantitative easing, quantitative easing, at the end of the end of the day, the dollar is only going to stretch so far because it floats artificially.

00:46:21.420 It is not tied to anything like the gold standard.

00:46:25.840 And I don't think BRICS is necessarily going to be a threat to the dollar directly.

00:46:30.340 But the system is the problem right now.

00:46:34.740 This is why we're seeing the polarization in the country.

00:46:37.200 This is why we're seeing jobs and basic issues of stability collapse around the country.

00:46:44.660 Whether you're left or right, there is an understanding that something is wrong with the system.

00:46:51.920 Something is wrong with the system.

00:46:53.680 And then the question is, which side is going to right the wrongs?

00:46:59.200 Which side is going to establish a new American republic?

00:47:05.500 And that is why it is incumbent upon us to find a leader and find leaders, plural, that understand what is going on, that understand that this establishment cannot continue in the United States because they are corrupt.

00:47:25.180 We've seen it.

00:47:25.760 I don't need Jim Jordan and a million different hearings on TV every day to explain to me that the institutions are corrupt.

00:47:34.180 I don't need to read articles and find more information.

00:47:37.800 It's all that, you know, the institutions are taking over by the left.

00:47:39.720 I know.

00:47:40.180 Okay.

00:47:40.380 I know.

00:47:40.940 Right.

00:47:41.180 We get it.

00:47:42.220 We understand it.

00:47:43.120 But we need the political fulcrum of someone with enough critical mass to actually be able to change that.

00:47:52.500 I don't want to reform the system.

00:47:54.960 I want to smash it. 0.96

00:47:57.400 I want to annihilate the system. 1.00

00:47:59.820 I want to eradicate the system. 0.97

00:48:02.600 And I want to replace the system.

00:48:06.820 This is the fundamental difference.

00:48:10.180 And what they're trying to do with these indictments on President Trump is lay down a gauntlet, not just for him, but for any Republican president.

00:48:20.100 Or any, I'll just say any president, independent, et cetera, other that wants to come up and has ideas that are outside of the mainstream ideas that threaten the status quo challenge us.

00:48:35.100 And we'll put you behind bars.

00:48:37.220 So every potential future candidate anywhere in the country is now faced with this issue of the police state, the establishment, the national security agencies, the permanent state, as the late great Angelo Cotevilla once said.

00:48:54.180 If you do not fix this, if you do not wage direct political war against them, they will be in power for the next generation.

00:49:04.300 And they will remake the next American Republic. 0.83

00:49:10.360 So the question is, who's going to win?

00:49:13.220 Which side wins the battle for the future?

00:49:16.560 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - July 24, 2023

EPISODE 523： TRUMP PIVOTS TO GENERAL WITH NEW RALLIES; BODY FOUND AT OBAMA COMPOUND

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