Donald J. Trump has been charged with conspiring to defraud the United States, conspiring to disenfranchise voters, and attempting to obstruct an official proceeding. This is the most significant legal case against Donald Trump in our lifetimes.
00:02:58.720Which side do you want to be on when the history books of this era are written?
00:03:06.040And make no mistake, the books will be written to favor the victors.
00:03:12.700If they win, they will describe the populist nationalist uprising of the 2010s and 2020s as a blip, as a temper tantrum, as the cry of, what do they say on MSNBC?
00:03:34.460They don't think about the men and women that go to work every day, take care of their kids, lace their shoelaces, just want to put food on the table every night.
00:04:00.740And seeing a candidate who is finally speaking to them, who's finally putting their interests first.
00:04:11.800One man with credibility, with celebrity, with influence, with stature, that actually has the ability to influence the entire system for good.
00:04:27.640But in fact, in fact, in fact, has been talking about it for over 30 years.
00:04:32.860And they want to take that man and they want to make him die in prison.
00:04:39.260The regime wants Donald Trump to die in prison because they want MAGA and the populist movement to die along with him.
00:04:55.220Are you going to let the Department of Justice, the Biden regime, Jack Smith and all of these other cronies, the political machine that's operating throughout Washington?
00:05:18.740Are you going to let the machine pick your candidate for you?
00:05:24.140Are you going to let that machine tell you that there's someone you're not allowed to vote for, that there's someone you're not allowed to support?
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00:06:15.100Who's the candidate that keeps them up at night?
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00:07:54.840I want to bring in now Mike Davis from the Article 3 Project.
00:07:58.860Now, Mike, a lot of people have been going around today looking at this slicing and dicing this indictment of President Trump,
00:08:06.180this idea that it seems like they're criminalizing his speech, they're criminalizing his attempts to challenge an election following, oh, by the way, legal processes to do so.
00:08:18.920There's also been a narrative that I've seen floating around a lot in the last 12 hours or so since this thing has dropped about the Supreme Court.
00:08:28.480So, Mike, I'd like to ask you, what, if any, would the role of the Supreme Court be in this case?
00:08:36.180Well, how this case will proceed, we have this Obama-appointed judge, Tanya Chudkin, who is going to oversee this trial.
00:08:44.560She has shown in the past that she is unfriendly to President Trump, so there's no chance that President Trump is going to get a fair trial in Washington, D.C.
00:08:56.520You have this Jack Smith, who is a partisan hitman, who has been brought in by Biden and Garland to take out Trump legally because they fear they can't beat Trump politically in November 2024.
00:09:09.660You're going to have motions to dismiss the indictment.
00:09:33.580They will affirm the conviction, and then it will have to get overturned by the Supreme Court.
00:09:38.020And Jack Smith is used to getting overturned by the Supreme Court.
00:09:41.500He was overturned unanimously by the Supreme Court after Jack Smith pursued a political prosecution against former Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell, a likely Republican presidential candidate in 2016.
00:10:16.240Is there any way that President Trump's, and I've said this before, you've said this, I think everybody kind of gets it.
00:10:22.420You bring any charges against President Trump, you put that in front of a D.C. jury, just like trial after trial of anyone who's had even a remote connection with President Trump.
00:10:33.300D.C. jury, that jury pool finds you guilty.
00:10:36.880It's 10 out of 10, or I guess 12 out of 12, I would say in this case.
00:10:41.320That said, so we do expect a conviction coming up.
00:10:45.920Is there any way for him to expedite this process?
00:11:59.580They don't care what the Supreme Court does after the presidential election.
00:12:03.080And so really, if these cases are going to get resolved, whether it's Alvin Bragg's lawfare in New York for Trump being charged for the non-crime of a businessman settling a nuisance claim or Trump being charged for the non-crime by Jack Smith, a former president having his presidential records, which is allowed by the Presidential Records Act,
00:12:23.260or Trump being charged for the non-crime of objecting to a presidential election, which is allowed by the Electoral Count Act of 1887, and twisting arms politically is allowed by the First Amendment.
00:12:36.340Fannie Willis down in Fulton County, Georgia, is going to pursue that later this month, likely.
00:12:41.080The only way this is going to get resolved, this Democrat lawfare, is by the American people saying enough is enough.
00:12:46.740We're not going to let Democrat prosecutors and Democrat judges and Democrat juries pick the president of the United States.
00:12:54.200We get to pick the president of the United States.
00:12:56.420And the American people can do that on November 5th, 2024, by saying we're going to end this lawfare and put President Trump back in the White House.
00:13:34.180Of course, we saw it changed for the Miami court appearance.
00:13:37.640We also saw it changed from New York court appearance in a state level charge.
00:13:42.380So is it possible then that when it comes to the trial date that he could even argue to push this back because he could point out that the same Department of Justice and the same special counsel has already given him another trial that they're going on at the same time?
00:13:58.640Yeah, I mean, that's going to be interesting how they juggle this.
00:14:01.640We have, you know, we have Alvin Bragg's trial up in New York.
00:14:08.960I think the Mar-a-Lago trial is set for May of 2024.
00:14:13.940You have Tish James, the New York attorney general, bringing her bogus civil fraud lawsuit against Trump for the non-fraud of President Trump paying back banks in full.
00:14:25.500And so I don't know how that would be fraud.
00:14:27.140You have Fannie Willis, who's likely to bring another indictment down in Fulton County, Georgia.
00:14:32.600And just if you step back, remember, Jack Smith, Merrick Garland and Jack Smith waited 31 months to bring these charges against President Trump.
00:14:44.020I mean, they clearly brought these charges to time them because President Biden was facing his own serious, incredible allegations of foreign corruption, that Biden and his family took tens of millions of dollars from China and Ukraine and Romania and other trouble spots around the world illegally, corruptly.
00:15:04.520And so all of a sudden, Jack Smith wants to bring superseding indictments in the Mar-a-Lago case and then this new indictment for the January 6th case.
00:15:14.520I mean, they're going to have to juggle all this.
00:15:16.520And President Trump has to be able to put on his defense.
00:15:19.140And by the way, this case is not some simple case that Jack Smith is bringing here.
00:15:25.640It's bogus as a matter of law, but factually, it's very complicated.
00:15:29.900You're looking at seven co-conspirators.
00:15:33.600You're looking at seven different states.
00:15:36.820You're looking at dozens and dozens of potential witnesses.
00:15:40.560President Trump has to be able to call these witnesses and gather evidence for his defense.
00:16:30.820I've even seen some people out there, folks, I would say categorize them more as the National Review Bunch.
00:16:36.440And I know you remember I got into it a little bit with Andy McCarthy over the last indictment, that even those guys are saying, well, hold on a second.
00:16:44.420We were on board with some of the Mar-a-Lago stuff.
00:16:47.160And I know you and I dissected their analysis.
00:16:50.720But those guys are even saying, wait, this thing is a joke.
00:16:55.660Now you're diverting your energy and your time into this nonsense as opposed to simply focusing on the Mar-a-Lago stuff.
00:17:02.880So even the never Trumpers are now getting worried that they've split their time.
00:17:19.560He is he's proven in the past that he brings bogus cases against Republican presidential candidates or likely Republican presidential candidates like he did with Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell.
00:17:31.780He doesn't care if the Supreme Court reverses him unanimously.
00:18:55.180He's the author of the new book, the fantastic new book.
00:18:59.400Apparently, it's so hard to get you can't even buy out on Amazon right now.
00:19:02.640That's how much it's flying off the digital shelves.
00:19:07.080But we also see that Tucker Carlson, just as this show started, we'll have to word with Tucker, by the way, to not drop episodes while my show is on because, Tucker, we're going to have problems, man, if you keep doing this.
00:19:20.560So he just dropped, though, an interview with none other than Devin Archer.
00:19:25.700And in the interview, Tucker presses him, and Devin Archer admits to Tucker that the phone calls were an abuse of power, a soft abuse of power.
00:19:37.600So let's bring in Chad McMore to get more background on how it is that Tucker is able to do this and everything that he does.
00:19:46.360Chad McMore, thanks so much for joining us here at Human Events.
00:20:44.240He's totally trusted me to write the book that I felt was appropriate.
00:20:47.420And I got to spend tons of time with him and his family and his staff and his friends, his enemies during the last year to work on this.
00:20:58.000And it was a pretty amazing opportunity.
00:21:01.300So when you're talking about this full access, obviously, then you were there for this this last, you know, I imagine you as far as I know, you were actually working on the book before the show was canceled and before all of this was coming down.
00:21:18.740So were you able to actually capture that in real time, those moments in the book?
00:21:24.660Yeah, I mean, one of the one of the things I was able to capture in real time, I was physically with him,
00:21:29.480was when all of the text messages were being released from the Dominion lawsuit.
00:21:32.900So these were, you know, the text messages about Trump and also one of the times, you know, Paul Ryan was talking smack about him on a podcast at the same time.
00:21:42.060And so I was with him when all of this was going down and I was getting that reaction in real time and also got to ask him about it, you know, and what he really meant and what his real thoughts are on President Trump.
00:21:51.340And and I put all of that into the book.
00:21:54.260And then also, you know, we were basically done with the book when his show was taken off the air and we pushed back publication so that I could update it.
00:22:01.700So I could interview him a few more times and really capture the aftermath and what he was going through, what his thoughts were at that time and what he was up to immediately afterwards.
00:22:10.420That's incredible. So, you know, and I know this episode just dropped.
00:22:15.560I was able to watch it, you know, sort of during the break there, you know, the two X speed, as I love to this Devin Archer interview.
00:22:21.500But just from seeing Tucker, understanding his process, what do you think it says that even after he's lost, you know, his perch there on, you know, running the Tucker Carlson tonight in primetime, that he's still able to get these highly sought after guests?
00:22:42.980Yeah. So this is a great question and and couldn't be more relevant than to what just dropped.
00:22:47.240And I haven't got a chance to watch it yet. I was teed up to watch it.
00:22:49.620And then I had to jump on with you and I will. But what I think it's what it signifies is, I mean, I feel like this moment feels historic for many reasons.
00:22:59.460And I think it feels historic because I think it's a moment that I think April 24th, 2023 was the moment that independent media surpassed mainstream media.
00:23:08.900And I think Tucker Carlson is a the figurehead for that.
00:23:12.200And this is what really shows it, is that he is able to get the most highly sought after interview and drop it before anyone else at any of the mainstream networks, anyone at Fox.
00:23:21.320And I also think that this is historic because and again, Tucker being a figurehead for this, that this will be the first presidential primary that mainstream media plays a really insignificant role, especially on the Republican side, maybe specifically on the Republican side.
00:23:35.280And, you know, as we get into the general election, that will probably change.
00:23:39.580But mainstream media isn't really going to have a big say on who the Republican primary candidate is.
00:23:44.880Fox, I think, would prefer it to be one candidate over the other.
00:23:48.060But that their power is seems to be completely gone and really Tucker's at the center of that.
00:23:53.760This interview that just dropped really shows that.
00:23:57.280I mean, this is the most and also the summit in Iowa from a few weeks ago.
00:24:00.480I mean, that was incredible viewing and it was not on the mainstream cable networks.
00:24:05.540Look, and I remember pointing this out at the time that when the Hunter Biden laptop story dropped, that was something that I was going on 24 seven.
00:24:14.720Steve Bannon, Raheem Kassam, the only person it felt like in mainstream media that was really picking this up when it mattered.
00:24:35.340He's getting every single one of these individuals that's directly tied to this.
00:24:40.580And I think what we're actually seeing through the lens of this is picking apart.
00:24:46.200And it's something that Tucker talks about a lot in his books, which I have read, just the way Washington, D.C. actually works and the sense of how the sausage is made behind the scenes and where that comes out in the front.
00:25:00.380And so you can see him, by the way, in the interview.
00:25:01.760I know you haven't watched it yet, but he says to Archer, he said, did you ever question that, you know, why it was that all of these foreign organizations wanted to work so much with you guys?
00:25:13.380Did you ever question that, you know, possibly it was the influence that you wielded or that your your connections wielded because you were directly tied to the vice president?
00:25:23.280And he's even calling in during the speaker call.
00:25:25.820So I guess it seems like the interview was taken after his testimony because he's obviously referring to it.
00:25:31.400And and Archer even admits at one point that, you know, looking back in retrospect, it was a soft abuse of power.
00:25:41.300So, I mean, Tucker uses it's a great, you know, at Guantanamo, we would have called it an interrogation technique in his interview because he's just reeling him in, makes the guy feel like he's completely.
00:25:53.280Uncomfortable, completely setting the table and then boom, gets him to admit it.
00:25:57.760And you can only do that when you're an absolute master at your craft.
00:26:02.220And I think that's what we're seeing here.
00:26:05.980And, you know, back to, you know, you and Steve, Ben, I watch both.
00:26:10.200I watch your show all the time and Bannon's show as well, and I love them both.
00:26:13.260And Tucker's show is really that bridge between stuff that people like you and Steve are covering and other people online that nobody on cable news would touch.
00:26:21.480Tucker was always this sort of bridge between the Internet and the mainstream.
00:26:26.020And and you and certainly as someone, as you just pointed out, as someone who's kind of a Washington insider, he had he had lived there for his entire adult life.
00:27:12.040You know, and I've heard Tucker speak of this as well, that, you know, to truly be a populist and he doesn't even necessarily consider himself one.
00:27:20.700But he says you have to understand who that sort of ruling class, those insiders, those D.C. insiders are.
00:27:28.280And to his credit, he doesn't describe himself as an outsider.
00:27:30.980He points out, no, I'm I'm an insider.
00:27:32.680But then comes forward with the perspective of and it's because I'm an insider.
00:27:37.900That's how I can tell you you're getting screwed.
00:27:40.480These people are screwing you left and right.
00:27:42.880And, you know, do you get a sense at all in the book of was there a moment?
00:27:48.820I know he talks about where he kind of shifted on that view of things.
00:27:52.400Yeah, Iraq was a big shift for him because he was sort of a Beltway neocon.
00:27:59.020He was always sort of a civil libertarian.
00:28:00.600He's always been a live and let live guy.
00:28:02.720But he was definitely pro the Iraq war at first.
00:28:05.880It took him going to Iraq in 2003 on assignment for Esquire magazine.
00:28:10.780He was embedded with civilian contractors in Baghdad that he really had a huge shift in his thinking.
00:28:17.220And that's when he really started to break away from Beltway conservatism.
00:28:19.960You know, he basically said he realized that neocons are just liberals with guns.
00:28:24.360And I think the second break would probably was not really one of his own doing, but it was when Trump came along.
00:28:29.060And that's when he became an outsider in his own social class.
00:28:33.260You know, he became a class traitor, which is what his neighbors in Washington called him when I interviewed them.
00:28:38.460People, again, see him as a class traitor because he was on the side of Trumpism, even though he wasn't, you know, an absolute Trump cheerleader, a blind cheerleader.
00:28:46.540He was certainly on the side of what Trump stood for.
00:28:48.920So, you know, I think it was him, you know, he broke away from the Beltway in certain ways.
00:28:53.880But then also he was excommunicated when the when the times shifted and when when the politics shifted and when Washington became so angry and upset about an outsider becoming president.
00:29:09.660It's so great that you've got the book out when you do.
00:29:12.320We're coming up on a quick break, but I want to go back in because I want to talk about some of the news of the day, not only the indictments, but also we're going to look into this question of the role of independent media versus mainstream media.
00:29:26.980President Trump has been asked directly.
00:29:33.740Sat down, had dinner with the heads of Fox News last night, and apparently they're begging him to come and debate on the debate stage that will be held in Milwaukee.
00:29:46.820Coming up just about 21 days here in 21 days time.
00:29:51.500And so the question on the debate is and I've I've heard it from both sides and I've I've I've heard the political calculus.
00:29:58.640And with my political operative hat on, I can say, well, when you're this much up in the polls, you don't have much to lose.
00:30:16.120And this is the one I argued when I went on Don Jr.
00:30:19.340A couple of weeks ago down at at Turning Point Action when I said, look, Donald Trump is known for dominating the narrative and dominating people's mind space.
00:30:30.800And any time that Donald Trump isn't available, isn't there on the screen, isn't there with these other candidates showing them to be jabronis, throwing them out of the ring like he did in 2015 Royal Rumble style, then it's a missed opportunity because everybody sees him in his element and he can show off his skills.
00:31:21.460This is out of Jonathan Swan, Jonathan Swan, Swanee and Maggie Haberman over at The New York Times.
00:31:27.680It turns out that last night, even after the indictment dropped, President Trump held a private dinner with the top leadership at Fox News as they lobbied him to intend the first primary debate.
00:31:41.860The dinner was between Mr. Trump, Fox News President Jay Wallace, and the network's senior executive, Suzanne Scott.
00:31:49.780This is held in a private dining room at Mr. Trump's golf club up in Bedminster.
00:31:55.920I was just at Bedminster a couple of days ago for the Sound of Freedom event.
00:32:06.380But walk me through the decision-making process, and you guys have been, I would say you more than most, a little bit vocal on the decision-making over at Fox News.
00:32:18.500Do you think they're trying to hold on to relevance, or do they view this as something that's perfunctory, or are they worried?
00:32:28.240Are they actually worried about the rise of independent media?
00:32:30.680Walk me through your analysis of this meeting.
00:32:32.180Yeah, all great questions, and there's no way to say for sure, but I would guess it's because they're super desperate for relevance, and they don't want to offend—I mean, they, you know, the leadership obviously doesn't like Trump.
00:32:47.660They don't want him to be president, but—and they didn't want him to be president the first time.
00:32:55.380So I think it's probably they're desperate for relevance.
00:32:57.660They want to try to hoodwink maybe 80 million Trump voters into thinking that they're still on their side, so they'll still tune in to, I don't know, Harris Faulkner, whatever show is still on Fox News.
00:33:09.200I don't know why else they would want to be begging him for such a thing.
00:33:12.640But Trump hasn't been too kind on Fox lately, and I've seen some of his social posts that weren't very nice about Fox.
00:33:18.860So it'll be interesting to see what direction he goes in.
00:33:22.180But then again, you know, I don't know if Trump feels like he might need to go to the mainstream, you know, right now to reach some voters or not.
00:33:30.920Well, and I think that's sort of the debate of it, right?
00:33:33.280So the debate on one side, you know, if you're just looking at it through the normal political lens is to say, hey, you're up this much in the polls.
00:33:40.400You're up 30 points, 40 points in some of these early states, including Iowa, which is obviously the target of any of the pre-primary, pre-caucus polls or debates.
00:33:50.120So you'd want—you'd want to make sure to secure your lead.
00:33:53.120If you're over 50 percent, you're basically at a ceiling.
00:33:55.260And so the only direction you could go in is down, so why not skip the debate and not give anyone another opportunity to come up?
00:34:05.080But this is—and I've looked at this, and I know you've looked at the Trump movement in the same way, that I think the normal rules don't necessarily apply because I think with Trump, you kind of have to be out there a lot.
00:34:18.480So I actually went and I said to Don Jr. on his show the other day, I made the argument that he should be out there.
00:34:24.420He should be out there flying the flag, dominating these candidates, and then actually, you know, taking potshots at him.
00:34:30.240That was what won him the nomination back in 2015-16.
00:34:35.200Yeah, I would like to see him debate, you know, maybe not necessarily on Fox, but not only would it be entertaining, but I think he—I personally think he should be out there debating.
00:34:53.480But also he shines the most when he's not doing these one-on-one sit-downs like he did with some Fox guy recently.
00:34:59.880But when he's out there talking to people, when he does his Waffle House stops, when he, you know, stops at the McDonald's or wherever, I mean, man, that's like the best footage you ever get of Trump.
00:35:19.880And I think that's actually something else because that makes sense because to what you're saying, this idea that mainstream media and independent media is the real story here.
00:35:31.200And I've said this, we had—we interviewed Congresswoman Margie Taylor Greene yesterday, and we had this discussion that somehow veered into the conversation of it.
00:35:41.840It's almost like the division anymore isn't necessarily left or right.
00:35:45.860It's actually people who believe corporate media and people who don't.
00:35:52.840That's—I mean, there's so many things that, you know, the whole paradigm has shifted.
00:35:56.920And Tucker Carlson came to his biggest prominence yet under this paradigm shift where the left and right don't mean the same thing.
00:36:02.900But, yeah, that I think is one of the hugest divisions is do you believe corporations or do not?
00:36:08.580Yeah, and that was a part of Tucker's big appeal was he was anti-corporatist in the most corporate of settings, which always was shocking to everyone, especially that the corporation allowed him to say the things that he did.
00:36:22.460And the fact that it's mainly associated with the right now—I mean, the left—I mean, I grew up around the left, and they were the first ones to call it corporations.
00:36:31.060Now they absolutely love their corporate media.
00:36:32.860It's really hilarious and sad and slightly terrifying to watch.
00:36:36.360And it's the right that has rejected their corporate media and the official stances and more for independent thinking, free speech, and independent outlets.
00:36:48.640I hope that, you know, that this moment feels right, that this is a moment where mainstream media just becomes completely irrelevant and secondary to what's happening on independent media.
00:36:59.260And President Trump has a power to make that happen, whether his campaign or not thinks that it's smart, whether his campaign thinks that it's smart or not.
00:37:06.360But he could certainly forego the mainstream media, I believe, go straight to independent media, and it wouldn't really hurt him at all.
00:37:14.460No, and I think you're starting to see that.
00:37:17.600That's obviously been, by the way, RFK's plan going out right now because he's doing a little bit of corporate media.
00:37:25.100He certainly is going on Fox, he's going on News Nation, but he's on, like, every podcast right now.
00:37:28.900Every single podcast, you see RFK over and over and over, and I think it is a new path.
00:37:34.880And obviously the original version of independent media, of course, was books, and you've got your book.
00:37:40.380So tell me, what is – what's something in your book that we find out about Tucker that we didn't know before?
00:37:48.240What's something that, you know, when somebody gets the book, they say, you know what, I never knew that about Tucker?
00:37:53.980Or just, you know, any story that is kind of being told for the first time?
00:37:58.180Oh, for the first time – well, I mean, it's – there are obviously things in there for the first time, but one thing – I mean, this isn't – he has spoken about this maybe once or twice,
00:38:07.960but a lot of things people don't realize is the story of his mother who abandoned his family when he was six years old.
00:38:15.060She wanted to be – go off and be a hippie.
00:38:17.420She wanted to be like an art world groupie.
00:38:19.240So I've heard him kind of, you know, use this as a throwaway line when he came down and spoke at Turning Point.
00:38:25.860He sort of says this, and then he doesn't really extrapolate.
00:38:29.840He just moves on and says you need to have strong families.
00:38:31.940But it seems like there's obviously a pretty long story there.
00:38:36.760Yeah, and I really got into it, and I actually interviewed people who knew his mother.
00:41:07.080And by the way, don't be a stranger here on Human Events.
00:41:09.540I want to get you on more for more of your analysis as we move through the next series of events that we know are going to be quite extensive, folks.
00:41:18.540Stay tuned because we've got an interesting segment coming up next about Michelle Obama.
00:41:24.580When I grew up in the hood, I rolled with bloods, and them boys had a saying.
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00:41:43.640We've got a very special segment for you guys coming up with a new movie that's out, new documentary, Michelle Obama, 2024, her real-life story and plan for power.
00:41:55.480And we've got the documentarian director and writer of that, Joel Gilbert, joining us.
00:42:01.240Joel, tell us about your theory of the case.
00:42:05.000Does she actually get in if Joe Biden has something that goes wrong?
00:42:09.320One wants Joe Biden, not the Democrats, not Republicans.
00:42:16.680Everyone thinks he's toast and he's not really running.
00:44:45.460Michelle actually grew up afraid of black people.
00:44:48.480She got beat up by kids who accused her of acting white and talking white.
00:44:52.740She even writes in her book, getting into a fist fight with a girl who called her an Oreo, meaning you're black on the outside, but you're really white on the inside.
00:45:02.080And I chronicle how in Michelle's professional career in Chicago, she exploited the black community.
00:45:07.720She worked for the mayor of Chicago as assistant planning commissioner, and her job was to knock down the projects at Cabrini-Green.
00:45:15.320She made 20,000 blacks homeless and gave away the land to these Democrat donor developers like Tony Resko.
00:45:21.620And then proving how callous she was toward the black community, Michelle was hired by the University of Chicago Medical Center to deny access to black people from the South Side who came to their emergency room.
00:45:33.580They were losing money because a lot of them were uninsured.
00:45:36.440So Michelle would kick them out, put them in these vans.
00:45:39.100It was called patient dumping, which was illegal.
00:45:41.300And Michelle would dump them back on the South Side in these crappy clinics.
00:45:45.340So Michelle has a horrible history of exploiting the black community and running away from them for her education as a child.
00:45:52.660But she tries to push this phony narrative, I'm just one of these ordinary black folks.
00:45:56.700So my film and book just totally blow the lid off of Michelle's real-life story.
00:46:02.120And I think black voters are no fools.
00:46:03.760I think if they understood what she did to the black community in Chicago, they would not support the Obamas.
00:46:11.160You know, I've always said it's interesting to me that, you know, when you talk about Donald Trump, that some people could tell you, they could tell you off the top of their head just the average person, where he went to school or at least where he's from, some of his businesses.
00:46:23.440But when it comes to the Obamas, it feels like the public perception of them is so controlled that – and no, no, I'm not getting into birth certificate territory, right?
00:46:33.260But it's just we don't even know the basics.
00:46:36.620It's just regular people don't even know the basics about them because there is this controlled narrative.
00:46:43.560Well, that's why they wrote these autobiographies.
00:46:45.800Both of them wrote two autobiographies so that the media can simply repeat whatever the Obamas have presented about their life story.
00:46:52.480Barack Obama's, you know, life story was pretty fabricated.
00:47:16.600Same with her brother, went to a Catholic school, all white kids, very expensive, because they had nothing in common with the black community.
00:47:23.560So both Barack and Michelle are very insecure about their relationship with the black community.
00:47:28.820And to cover for that, they make up these phony stories to manipulate black and minority voters.
00:47:35.360And they inflame racial discontent by embracing Black Lives Matter and embracing all these causes because they're so insecure.
00:47:47.880And certainly we saw in the second term of the Obama administration, this really was the birth and the flourishing of Black Lives Matter and many other of these hashtag campaigns because of the work of Michelle and Barack.
00:48:04.060And it makes so much sense to me that, to your point, right, they have this sort of academic view of the black community as opposed to the, you know, as what was the phrase, the lived experience that we keep hearing again and again.
00:48:15.360Joel, where can people go to get a copy of your book and to watch the video?
00:48:19.520Yeah, on Amazon.com, you can get the book version or the DVD, and you can actually also live stream the movie right now on Amazon Prime Movies and also live stream on SalemNow.com.
00:48:32.240If you want to watch the trailer and read all about the book and the film, it's MichelleObama24.com, MichelleObama24.com.
00:48:41.540Did you have any trouble getting it on Amazon Prime?