Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - August 10, 2023


EPISODE 536： PREDAWN FBI RAID LEAVES ELDERLY MAN DEAD IN UTAH, DESANTIS DROPS TO 3RD


Episode Stats

Length

48 minutes

Words per Minute

186.3739

Word Count

9,051

Sentence Count

704

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary

A man in his 70s is shot and killed in a pre-dawn raid by the FBI in Utah. Special counsel Jack Smith has obtained warrants for Twitter to turn over former President Donald Trump s account information. A presidential candidate in Ecuador s upcoming election was killed during a campaign event.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 We are in a fifth generational conflict.
00:00:41.380 For every lie they tell, we're going to get in their face and yell two truths.
00:00:46.700 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.
00:00:49.680 Deliver us from evil.
00:00:51.840 DeSantis is a failed candidate.
00:00:53.820 And you know what?
00:00:54.320 He's a failed candidate.
00:00:55.360 Again, he's got no personality.
00:00:57.160 I've never talked business in him.
00:00:58.640 And I knew you'd have a lousy question.
00:01:00.940 Well, what do you, it's, why is that a lousy question?
00:01:03.680 Because it's not true.
00:01:05.100 You think about the inflation reduction act that's going to help with the deficit,
00:01:08.240 that's actually going to help make investments.
00:01:10.700 We're talking about, you guys were talking about what was going on in Hawaii.
00:01:13.620 Climate change is affecting so many communities.
00:01:16.980 Wildfires spreading across Hawaii's second largest island.
00:01:21.260 It is happening in Maui.
00:01:23.140 There have been mass evacuations.
00:01:25.740 Some people have had to jump into the ocean to escape.
00:01:28.880 Special counsel Jack Smith has obtained warrants for Twitter to turn over former President Donald Trump's account information.
00:01:36.020 The Fulton County grand jury will go back to work with the possibility they'll be handed the case against former President Donald Trump and allies.
00:01:42.780 It is more likely that allegations of election interference will go before one of two grand juries next week.
00:01:49.320 In Russia, officials have opened an investigation after a powerful explosion rocked an industrial plant near Moscow.
00:01:56.380 A presidential candidate in Ecuador's upcoming elections was killed tonight during a campaign event.
00:02:02.420 Fernando Villavicencio was holding an event at a school north of Quito when he was shot.
00:02:07.540 FBI agents shot and killed a man in Utah who they say has been making violent threats against the president, Governor Newsom, and other officials.
00:02:16.300 Agents killed Craig Robertson Wednesday morning just hours before President Joe Biden's planned visit to Utah.
00:02:22.020 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:02:34.800 We are live here, Washington, D.C.
00:02:37.060 Today is August 10th, 2023.
00:02:40.140 Anno Domini.
00:02:41.860 What you just saw there was a very confusing clip recorded by a man in Provo, Utah.
00:02:48.800 6.15 a.m., an FBI SWAT team shows up across the street at the home of his elderly neighbor in his 70s banging on the door pre-dawn raid, screaming.
00:03:08.300 An explosion goes off.
00:03:11.020 The video cuts off.
00:03:12.240 We later find out that the man was wanted and had been under investigation by the FBI.
00:03:20.980 They had a search warrant as well as an arrest warrant.
00:03:24.420 They were coming to arrest him for threats against the president and interstate threats.
00:03:30.500 Yet if you continue to read more in the documents, they say the man was in his 70s.
00:03:35.960 He attended church, that he's been under surveillance since March of this year, and that the FBI in the past had gone to his home and spoken to him, and he did not respond aggressively.
00:03:51.580 What changed?
00:03:56.260 Why did the FBI decide to go and launch this pre-dawn raid of Craig Robertson in the way that they did?
00:04:05.800 I'd like to know answers, and I'm being honest.
00:04:08.880 Did they have evidence that Craig Robertson was about to leave his home with a sniper rifle and do something that he obviously shouldn't do?
00:04:17.000 I've read the post that he made online.
00:04:20.260 If you make posts like that, you better expect a knock on your door from law enforcement, of course.
00:04:26.400 But the question is, was the pre-dawn raid by an FBI SWAT team the only way to go about this?
00:04:37.540 Federal law enforcement, national law enforcement in this country, if we are going to have a serious conversation about this,
00:04:47.000 if we're going to have a serious conversation about our relationship,
00:04:51.400 then we need to understand exactly what it is that the government wants.
00:04:57.820 Because to me, and it's just my opinion, this looks like a show of force.
00:05:03.560 This looks like a message.
00:05:06.560 This looks like a message being sent to the people of this country.
00:05:11.100 Threaten us, and we'll show up at your home at 6.15 in the morning and take you out.
00:05:20.420 That's what it looks like, folks.
00:05:22.300 I want more information.
00:05:23.980 I want body cams if it's out there.
00:05:25.740 I want every piece of evidence.
00:05:27.260 I want to hear those voices.
00:05:29.080 What happened?
00:05:30.700 And more importantly, why did they choose this route when they had spoken to the man before?
00:05:37.200 Rahim Kassam joins us next.
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00:06:59.460 Now, also for this episode, I wanted to bring in a good friend of the program here, good
00:07:03.980 friend personally, Mr. Raheem Kassam of the National Pulse.
00:07:07.820 Raheem, thank you so much for joining us today.
00:07:10.840 Thank you for having me.
00:07:12.420 And why are you darker than me?
00:07:14.820 Well, I'm darker than you today because you've been sitting inside playing FIFA for the last
00:07:20.340 three weeks straight.
00:07:21.320 You're actually playing FIFA right now, aren't you?
00:07:22.860 He's playing FIFA during the interview.
00:07:24.360 He's literally playing FIFA during the interview, folks.
00:07:26.960 That just shows you the level of commitment from Maheem Kassam to the great team.
00:07:32.580 Here's the problem.
00:07:33.160 Here's the problem, Jack.
00:07:34.600 There's no football.
00:07:35.940 We're in the offseason.
00:07:37.220 And they're trying to make me watch the Women's World Cup.
00:07:40.080 And I'm like, no.
00:07:41.500 I'd rather play video games based on soccer than watch the Women's World Cup.
00:07:46.700 So these are the daily problems that I face.
00:07:49.980 The struggle is real, folks.
00:07:51.280 The struggle is absolutely real.
00:07:53.180 But Raheem, you were on the show here about two months ago.
00:07:58.960 And you told us that in short order, something was about to happen.
00:08:02.560 You made a prediction.
00:08:03.740 And I remember being skeptical of your prediction.
00:08:06.960 So before we get into the payoff, all right, let's go through the setup.
00:08:11.660 Let's show people Raheem's prediction from June 22nd here on Human Events.
00:08:17.200 Because being anti-woke is just the bottom, like, bar, the bottom rung of the ladder of conservatism.
00:08:27.460 You know, you don't get to be celebrated because you're not a communist and not a Satanist.
00:08:32.760 And that's what he's going around doing.
00:08:34.900 He's going around giving speeches and going, aren't I brilliant for not being a communist and not being a Satanist?
00:08:40.860 And everyone's like, yeah, I mean, we do expect that from you, though, mate, like, to be honest with you.
00:08:47.040 And I think this is where it's all falling down.
00:08:49.140 It's going to fall down further because, you know, I don't expect Rick Scott and I don't expect Will Hurd to poll it more than one to three percent.
00:08:57.680 And that's with the margin of error of about three and a half percent.
00:09:00.700 But they won't be taking from Trump those one and three percents.
00:09:04.220 They will be taking from Ron DeSantis.
00:09:06.060 Maybe I'll make another prediction right here, by the way, like the one I made when you played in the last segment.
00:09:10.100 Maybe I can make another prediction.
00:09:11.780 Ron DeSantis to 10 percent midsummer.
00:09:14.540 Ron DeSantis by 10 percent midsummer.
00:09:18.260 You're wearing the same shirt right now you were in that video, weren't you?
00:09:21.420 I haven't changed.
00:09:24.300 You actually haven't changed.
00:09:25.500 So you said Ron DeSantis to 10 percent.
00:09:29.040 But let's let's go through this.
00:09:30.600 Ron DeSantis to 10 percent by midsummer.
00:09:34.520 You didn't say fall.
00:09:35.420 You didn't say winter.
00:09:36.200 You didn't ambiguously state this.
00:09:39.260 You actually put a time frame on it.
00:09:41.500 Ron DeSantis to 10 percent by midsummer.
00:09:43.800 Tell me, Raheem, as we woke up this morning, one of the big things that we always do, I've noticed that you've gotten to do it.
00:09:48.480 I do it.
00:09:49.060 Trump does it over on True Social.
00:09:50.440 We go and check the polls.
00:09:51.540 We go and check the latest numbers.
00:09:53.200 What are the latest numbers today?
00:09:56.940 Ron DeSantis on 10 percent midsummer.
00:10:01.720 It's OK.
00:10:03.620 So walk us through.
00:10:04.260 What what is the poll that has this?
00:10:06.240 OK, we've got it up there today.
00:10:08.140 And this poll, not only is it Ron DeSantis 10 percent, it's actually Vivek Ramaswamy 11.4 percent.
00:10:18.000 Raheem, how did this happen?
00:10:19.300 And not only that, how did you know that this was going to happen?
00:10:25.200 Well, look, there are a couple of things you need to bear in mind here.
00:10:28.140 The first thing to bear in mind here is you always look at the sample sizes.
00:10:31.980 There's a 2000 person poll, which puts it at about double the sample size of most of the daily tracking polls that you get.
00:10:39.080 You then look at the margin of error.
00:10:40.400 It's the margin of error.
00:10:41.280 I think I'm just going to look it up here very quick.
00:10:43.160 Make sure I get the number right.
00:10:44.120 Two point six percent, which is smaller than than most of your daily tracker polls, which have margins of error between three point six, five percent sometimes even.
00:10:53.800 But then the third thing actually takes away a little bit from the polls, you know, necessary credibility in this area.
00:11:00.900 That is to say that the polling company that did this poll, I don't know how you pronounce Signal, I guess, but it's spelled weird.
00:11:09.160 You have to bear in mind that Signal's VP, Brock McCleary, is actually a pollster for the Vivek campaign.
00:11:15.160 So Vivek's numbers, you know, you've got to take with a pinch of salt here.
00:11:19.880 But in the grand scheme of things, the trajectory is correct.
00:11:25.100 What we've been seeing in terms of the shifting of momentum really, really deeply away from Ron DeSantis since he announced his campaign tracks with this.
00:11:36.300 And then the other thing you have to bear in mind is you're going to start seeing more data coming out like this.
00:11:41.500 It's a start. Remember, we were we were mid 20s, then slipped a little bit, then into the teens, then 15, then 12.
00:11:50.520 Now we're at 10. It keeps going further and further down.
00:11:53.560 So, you know, you can you can have some skepticism about this, as I do with every data set that comes out, whether it's attached to a campaign, a pack or or independent.
00:12:03.420 And there's no real such thing as independent polling companies.
00:12:08.840 Maybe, maybe, you know, you would say Rasmussen is the closest thing you'll get to that.
00:12:13.720 But you'll start to see this number creep up more and more and you'll start to see, I think, single digit midget Ron within, you know, within a couple of weeks, maybe a month's time.
00:12:24.340 And this this represents keep in mind and what's amazing to me is that you've seen this latest news cycle as the FEC deadline just passed of all the the campaigns.
00:12:36.300 Oh, Trump's got this much money on lawyers. So they're moving around from this pack to this.
00:12:40.100 But he's got a number of packs plus the campaign. So the money sort of goes back and forth.
00:12:44.020 Ron DeSantis has done this as well, by the way, rolling over his governor's money, gubernatorial campaign money, putting some of that into a super PAC.
00:12:51.280 I'm also taking money from, you know, that's moves from empower parents, just a bunch of different PACs moving back and forth.
00:12:57.240 But I've noticed that nobody ever seems to tie the spending and fundraising with the performance in polls, because if we're sitting here as political operatives and strategists trying to understand, well, if you're spending the money, it's not just how much money you spend.
00:13:14.060 It's what your conversion rate is. OK, if we spent forty five million dollars, what is the return on investment?
00:13:21.280 Why do they never seem to tie these together?
00:13:26.360 I mean, that would be a disaster for most campaigns if you if you look to that.
00:13:30.780 And the funny thing is, you kill the industry.
00:13:33.360 Yeah. If you look at the Trump stuff, I mean, if the argument is, oh, Trump is just spending his donations on legal defenses, which, by the way, translates to Trump is spending the donations, fighting the deep state instead of giving it to D.C.-based consultants.
00:13:47.300 That is what you're really saying there. But if you have a problem with that somehow, then the counterpoint also to that is, yes, so you're saying he hasn't spent a penny campaigning and yet he keeps going up and solidifying his support.
00:14:00.960 You should be happy that there's a candidate out there that can do that.
00:14:04.100 You should be happy like people were in 2016 that Donald Trump didn't need to spend two billion dollars versus Hillary Clinton to defeat her, that this is the kind of candidate that you want at the top of the ticket.
00:14:13.880 And he's the kind of candidate that can drag other people who aren't so attractive over the line.
00:14:18.560 Well, as we saw with Ron DeSantis to to be fair, there were plenty of Republicans in 2016, throughout 2016, who were not happy that that candidate was at the top of the ticket.
00:14:30.200 To be fair, because this is but you're right. I remember saying this actually in October of 2016 at the time.
00:14:37.480 I've never seen the Republicans so upset about winning. I've never seen that you're spending a little amount of money.
00:14:43.500 You've actually found a candidate who can galvanize not just low information voters or non engaged voters, low propensity voters.
00:14:50.700 Raheem, we saw we had a polling data point out yesterday that actually said Trump is outperforming with non registered Americans.
00:14:59.860 So they were able to actually poll Americans who are non registered and find this.
00:15:05.720 These are your who are they? They're watching UFC. They're listening to podcasts.
00:15:09.680 These are all the things that Trump does.
00:15:11.980 There are also people who are aware of Trump just because of his own celebrity and notoriety.
00:15:17.000 Trump is winning with them as well. This is why a candidate like that on paper doesn't necessarily capture it.
00:15:24.880 You're only looking at sort of a political resume. You're you're not capturing the full scope of what I think it is that you're talking about here.
00:15:33.100 Yeah, that's right. And in response to your tweet from earlier on where you said that I came on the show two months ago and predicted the latest numbers that we're seeing now,
00:15:43.160 I put a poll up of my own Twitter poll up, which has 501 votes now.
00:15:50.640 The most accurate question was, which was which was more successful, Ukraine's counteroffensive or Ron DeSantis's reset?
00:15:57.640 And I'm pleased to report exclusively here on Human Events that 77 percent of people responded that Ukraine's counteroffensive was more effective than Ron DeSantis's reset.
00:16:07.900 So, I mean, you know, we can laugh about it and I will keep laughing about it.
00:16:12.140 The reason I will keep laughing about it is because I predicted all of this going back to last January, not this January, 2023, January 2022.
00:16:18.760 I did a podcast about this and DeSantis world and how this would end up and everything has come to pass.
00:16:25.380 It's so obvious. Remember, the people staffing DeSantis's campaign are the people who couldn't get jobs in the Trump administration when the only person they were going up against for the job was Omarosa.
00:16:34.900 So what does it tell you about those people?
00:16:37.520 We got a minute left. I know. I know you got to run.
00:16:40.200 Where can people go to get your not just reporting, but how do they also get your analysis on the National Pulse?
00:16:46.460 Is there an extra step that they need to perform?
00:16:49.520 It's funny. You should ask, Jack. There is actually an extra step at the national pulse dot com.
00:16:54.400 People will find that I do editors notes on stories where I kind of read people into this stuff.
00:17:00.180 It is a premium feature. We call it the Pulse Plus.
00:17:02.680 It comes with a whole bunch of other features as well on the site.
00:17:05.680 But if you want to be weeks, months, sometimes even years ahead, as you and I both were, let's say, on the Hunter Biden laptop stuff,
00:17:13.220 the national pulse dot com is where you need to go.
00:17:15.540 Folks, you got to go there. By the way, I'll give one for free for folks today on your editor's note on the article that you wrote about what we're talking about here was just I told you.
00:17:25.640 Two words.
00:17:26.980 Told you. There you go, folks. Raheem Kassam there.
00:17:29.840 What can I say? Called the shot. Made the shot.
00:17:33.680 Next, joining us here, Human Events, Ali London.
00:17:36.960 He's got a new book coming out that you need to get.
00:17:40.620 Hey, you know, they talk about influencers.
00:17:42.880 These are influencers.
00:17:44.740 And they're friends of mine.
00:17:47.140 Jack Posobiec.
00:17:48.640 Where's Jack?
00:17:49.580 Jack.
00:17:50.620 He's done a great job.
00:17:52.020 All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back here.
00:17:55.660 Washington, D.C., Jack Posobiec live in studio.
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00:19:32.720 Folks, joining us right now live here in a massive Washington, D.C., the palatial Human Events Real America's Voice studio in Washington, D.C., we have commentator, writer, and now author, Ali London.
00:19:47.100 Ali, thanks for joining us.
00:19:48.020 Great to be here.
00:19:48.640 Welcome to the studio.
00:19:49.380 Nice to see you, man.
00:19:50.400 So you've got a copy.
00:19:51.740 The last time we had you on, you were working.
00:19:53.500 You were feverishly writing away.
00:19:55.440 You write on a typewriter, right?
00:19:56.800 Well, on a computer.
00:19:57.780 Oh, I thought it was a little bit of typewriting, a little bit.
00:20:00.940 I mean, that's a bit old-fashioned.
00:20:01.960 Once in a while, once in a while, I got the cigarette dangling, you know.
00:20:04.700 Yeah, exactly.
00:20:05.800 Late at night with the candle, right?
00:20:07.820 Yes, that's right.
00:20:08.640 No incandescent or none of that LED stuff just here in the studio.
00:20:12.160 Tell us about, and let's put the book up so folks can see it.
00:20:14.640 Tell us about your new book, Gender Madness.
00:20:17.900 And I believe it comes out next week, right?
00:20:19.780 It's out literally in four days.
00:20:21.700 Four days?
00:20:22.740 Oh, let's go.
00:20:23.620 You know, this book is actually exposing everything that's going on right now, Jack.
00:20:28.040 So we have the gender ideology being pushed on children in schools, on social media apps
00:20:34.020 like TikTok and Instagram.
00:20:35.900 And it's being pushed really hard.
00:20:37.580 Then this Pride season, we saw it pushed like never before.
00:20:41.760 The Target Pride collection for children with the tuck-friendly swimwear.
00:20:46.060 We had, you know, the White House had trans activists.
00:20:48.100 Can I just say something about that Target?
00:20:49.620 So my wife, who, and everybody knows Tanya Tay, she's on Twitter, et cetera.
00:20:55.020 We've had her on the show a million times.
00:20:56.380 But she doesn't follow the politics and certainly not these issues on a regular, you know, insane
00:21:02.820 level basis like I do.
00:21:04.060 You're on Twitter a ton, by the way.
00:21:05.260 You cover a ton of stories.
00:21:06.260 Addicted to Twitter.
00:21:07.020 I know, yeah.
00:21:07.360 She doesn't have that, is what I'm saying.
00:21:09.440 She's not, you know, she's not a news junkie, right?
00:21:12.420 She will not set foot in a Target.
00:21:14.060 She will not set foot in there.
00:21:15.780 She said, I'm boycotting it.
00:21:16.880 I will not set foot in Target.
00:21:18.380 And I said, until when?
00:21:19.460 She goes, I don't know ever.
00:21:21.380 I don't know ever.
00:21:22.080 She has been completely turned off to Target in a way that I've never seen her really for
00:21:26.900 any, we don't drink.
00:21:27.900 So Bud Light doesn't, doesn't really come up, but I've never seen this Target thing
00:21:31.420 has her switched off in a way that I've never seen.
00:21:34.960 And yeah, I agree.
00:21:35.760 I mean, I've seen, you know, thousands of parents go online and they're not normally
00:21:38.940 vocal about these things.
00:21:40.040 They say, look, this is a red line because you're pushing this on kids.
00:21:43.860 And that's the red line that's upset everybody in the last few years.
00:21:46.620 Because, you know, before people were just living their life.
00:21:49.040 Now it's being pushed in schools.
00:21:50.380 You have kindergartners learning about sex education, you know, LGBT books in school libraries.
00:21:55.520 And it's wrong to push that on kids when kids are so easily impressionable.
00:21:59.740 So the fact you have like Target and it was in the main section as you walked in the store
00:22:03.380 in most of the stores.
00:22:04.020 It was pushed in your face and it's pushing this in kids' faces and they're so easily
00:22:08.040 confused.
00:22:09.000 And then look at all the movies these days with all the non-binary characters.
00:22:11.640 You had the Disney Pixar's Elementor with a non-binary gas object or whatever.
00:22:16.040 And then you have the Transformers pushing non-binary stuff.
00:22:19.040 Which, by the way...
00:22:19.360 It's targeting kids on purpose and it's wrong to do that because kids are easily susceptible
00:22:23.580 to these ideas.
00:22:25.040 In the domestic...
00:22:26.360 Yes, it's actually correct.
00:22:29.320 In the domestic...
00:22:30.020 I'm fact-checking myself in real time.
00:22:32.060 Domestic box office here.
00:22:33.600 So that's just US.
00:22:35.580 Sound of Freedom has beaten both Transformers and Elemental.
00:22:41.020 $166 million to $157 million and $149 million for Elemental.
00:22:45.100 Elemental didn't even do that well here in the United States.
00:22:48.160 It was beaten and Transformers, massive franchise, obviously, both beaten by Sound of Freedom.
00:22:54.500 Sound of Freedom just edged out Transformers, it looks like, just in the few days since I've
00:22:59.260 checked this.
00:22:59.940 So you've got...
00:23:00.940 I think that ties into what you're talking about because we've talked about so many times
00:23:05.880 the power of Sound of Freedom as a film.
00:23:08.640 But I also think that because it came out on the 4th of July immediately after this crazy
00:23:15.100 Pride season that it became sort of a form of protest of that for people to go see Sound
00:23:22.360 of Freedom.
00:23:22.960 And I know they're not directly linked, but I think in a spiritual and just metaphysical
00:23:29.320 way, there is a connection there.
00:23:32.160 Yeah, I think people want to take a stand.
00:23:33.660 And that's one way of doing it is, you know, supporting movies that are actually trying
00:23:36.720 to help children and expose dark forces like child trafficking.
00:23:40.260 And it's fantastic that the movie has done so well, despite the mainstream media trying
00:23:44.440 to, you know, pass it off as a conspiracy theory because it's not.
00:23:47.280 It's actually happening.
00:23:48.300 So I think that's one reason.
00:23:49.640 And the fact we saw, you know, Target lose billions, Bud Light lose up to 26 billion from
00:23:53.840 Anjusa Bush.
00:23:54.720 I think it's showing that the consumer is trying to take back control because people don't want
00:23:59.700 to cancel things, but we're doing it because it's for the kids.
00:24:02.320 So, you know, showing support for Sound of Freedom as opposed to going to see one of
00:24:05.840 these woke films really does show you that people have had enough.
00:24:09.540 They've had enough of this targeting kids and they want to speak up and, you know, make
00:24:12.980 a decision.
00:24:13.580 As consumers, we all have the power to influence, you know, what brands do.
00:24:17.240 If we stop buying Bud Light, which has happened now, they're going to have to change their
00:24:21.440 policies now.
00:24:22.100 They're, you know, putting horses back in the adverts and trying to win back those
00:24:25.180 consumers, but it's way too late for them.
00:24:27.280 Which, and I got to say, so I'm from the Philadelphia area.
00:24:29.800 We grew up going to the Devon Horse Show, and this is one of the largest horse shows
00:24:35.260 or just equestrian expositions anywhere on the East Coast.
00:24:39.640 And one of the, the pinnacle of every horse show was when the Budwides or Clydesdales come
00:24:46.080 in and everybody makes sure you, and even as a kid, you know, we've been going to volunteer
00:24:50.240 there.
00:24:50.700 It benefits the local hospital and we've been going to volunteer since I was two years
00:24:54.280 old.
00:24:54.760 And so you want to go and look at the Clydesdales.
00:24:56.620 They're these beautiful, enormous Scottish horses, you know, these, these draft horses
00:25:00.720 and, and Budweiser, they're flying the American flag.
00:25:04.360 They've got the Dalmatian.
00:25:05.300 Everybody loves it.
00:25:06.160 And so to, to take that and then turn it into this, you know, juxtapose it with, with all
00:25:13.200 of this stuff is, I think is crazy to people.
00:25:15.000 Certainly crazy from a brand equity position.
00:25:16.840 And even we were at the horse show again this year and they had the Clydesdales and they
00:25:21.240 did it, but we noticed that it was kind of diminished.
00:25:22.980 And then they, they were in a, in a stable that was sort of like away from, you know,
00:25:27.800 everybody else.
00:25:28.540 And even they are clearly feeling the, the brunt of this.
00:25:33.620 So tell us more about how do you break down in the book, the, the force, what, what is
00:25:38.740 behind this?
00:25:39.620 Why are they, why are people doing this when there's obviously an effect on their own bottom
00:25:43.400 lines?
00:25:43.940 Well, I talk a lot about this in the book.
00:25:45.280 So you have obviously the DEI diversity, equity, inclusion, the corporate equality index,
00:25:49.460 which basically measures a company on how woke they are.
00:25:52.060 So, you know, a lot of these companies have the same investors, BlackRock or Vanguard.
00:25:55.860 So they are the ones pushing these policies and, you know, these policies like something
00:26:00.120 like Bud Light has, you know, the most ridiculous partnership with Dylan Mulvaney, which doesn't
00:26:04.340 match with what the consumers want, right?
00:26:05.720 Like you'd want a cowboy or something with a horse.
00:26:08.440 So the fact that they push that and they, they took that loss and other companies are still
00:26:12.560 pushing this wokeness shows that it's the investors behind this.
00:26:15.880 Do you think, here's an interesting question that, that I've, I've, I've actually spoken
00:26:20.100 to a few people about this offline, but do you think, so Larry Fink, right?
00:26:24.740 He's the head of BlackRock.
00:26:26.140 He's, he's totally invested in ESG, even though he's a, he's publicly admitted at this point
00:26:31.680 that, that there's been a backlash to it.
00:26:33.640 Do you think that he actually believes it or is it just about money for him?
00:26:40.120 Because he's, he's got money, right?
00:26:42.060 So, so what is driving him?
00:26:43.780 Does this, is this a true belief, you know, or, or is it something else?
00:26:48.320 Because I've heard a good, uh, uh, theory recently.
00:26:51.280 And this is, um, uh, Neil Howell writes this out in the fourth turning where he says that
00:26:55.720 it is, it's something where you get these liberal baby boomers and they have a tendency to just
00:27:01.220 believe in the goodness and the morality of their actions.
00:27:04.740 That got me thinking about Larry Fink.
00:27:06.540 Does this guy actually believe it?
00:27:08.160 Well, you know, if these companies and investors actually believed that they would actually,
00:27:12.680 you know, for instance, pride, they would actually try and make that a thing in Saudi Arabia,
00:27:15.640 right?
00:27:16.240 They'd actually, you know, cause you notice, you notice pride month, all of these companies,
00:27:20.120 they all change their logos.
00:27:21.180 It's the Chevrolet, Ford, except in the Middle East.
00:27:24.600 So, you know, if they actually cared, they would actually go and invest that money in places
00:27:28.460 where they needed these rights.
00:27:29.900 Yeah.
00:27:30.040 Mercedes-Benz and Volkswagen.
00:27:31.640 Don't ask about what we were doing in the 1930s.
00:27:34.300 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:27:35.080 Exactly.
00:27:35.140 So, you know, it's clearly virtue signaling.
00:27:37.580 It's about, you know, trying to say, oh, we're inclusive, we're woke.
00:27:40.340 But, you know, they've took it too far now.
00:27:42.140 This DEI and CEI has took it way too far that it's actually turning consumers away.
00:27:47.440 And we're seeing these brands losing, you know, billions and billions of dollars.
00:27:50.880 And I don't think Bud Light's ever going to recover.
00:27:53.080 They've just, you know, announced they have to lay off 400 staff.
00:27:55.400 They have to close some distilleries down.
00:27:57.640 I don't think they're going to recover.
00:27:58.660 But I think, you know, these people in power have woken up.
00:28:01.700 I know BlackRock said recently they're going to kind of change and look into their DEI policies.
00:28:07.520 But they could just be saying that.
00:28:08.600 And they might just try to push it covertly underneath the surface.
00:28:12.100 But I think thanks to the consumers fighting back recently, I think these companies have had an awakening and think maybe we have taken this too far.
00:28:19.640 Because at the end of the day, all they care about is money, right?
00:28:21.800 So if they're losing money.
00:28:22.640 Right, because you've got at some point, you know, Simon & Schuster was just bought by a hedge fund, for example.
00:28:27.640 And that's another great point where book sales have been down other than really actually conservative books have been doing great.
00:28:33.220 I hope your book does very well.
00:28:34.260 And everyone needs to go and pre-order a copy of it right now and then get ready for when it comes out in, what, four days?
00:28:39.880 Yes, four days time, yeah.
00:28:41.040 But at the same time, you know, I would hope that a publishing house like Simon & Schuster would start to realize that, you know, you don't have to just publish the books that your woke millennial, you know, agents want pushed.
00:28:57.300 You can actually just push books to audiences that people will like.
00:29:01.000 And you know what?
00:29:01.700 That means you can publish liberal books and far left books and right wing books too and middle of the road books as well.
00:29:08.460 It's fine because there's going to be a market.
00:29:11.320 And if you are a company and you're trying to make money, that's what they should follow.
00:29:16.360 We've got a minute left.
00:29:16.960 We have another segment with you, though, right?
00:29:18.440 Yes.
00:29:18.800 We have one more segment.
00:29:19.660 All right.
00:29:19.880 We've got one minute left.
00:29:20.900 Another segment here.
00:29:21.880 Ali, London, joining us here, Washington, D.C.
00:29:25.560 It's amazing.
00:29:26.040 Appreciate you being down.
00:29:27.160 Thank you.
00:29:27.560 Thanks for having me in person as well.
00:29:29.140 This is great to do it in person.
00:29:30.900 And folks, really, we need to understand that this madness is truly a madness.
00:29:37.260 And in the next segment, I'm going to talk to Ali about how this madness can affect people.
00:29:43.240 And I'm going to ask you about your personal story as well to explain what it's like when you are caught in the madness.
00:29:49.700 Because you might be out there as a parent, as a mom or a dad, a grandparent.
00:29:55.240 And you might be or have someone in your life that's currently caught in it that you're praying to get them out of it.
00:30:02.020 Ali's got an answer for you.
00:30:03.200 We're going to have it when we come back next.
00:30:04.600 Bye.
00:30:07.260 All right, we are back here.
00:30:17.980 Jack Posobiec live in Washington, D.C., continuing our interview with Ali London, the author of the new book, Gender Madness.
00:30:25.420 And here's the question that I have.
00:30:27.420 So, Ali, we – I'll just put it this way.
00:30:30.820 I'm not even going to say we – I know someone who's not in my family but in my extended orbit who has a liberal relative that has chosen to raise their six-year-old little boy as a girl.
00:30:46.920 I can tell you for a fact, and by the way, I don't care if she's listening, this is driven by the mother.
00:30:52.880 This is almost 100% driven by the mother.
00:30:55.240 But the dad has been so pushed down that he won't respond.
00:31:01.540 He won't stand up.
00:31:02.500 And they continue to do this.
00:31:05.400 You've also got instances where if someone's like a – and I know you've done work with Cody Cole that we've also had on the show, you know, talk about going through this as a teenager.
00:31:16.520 What do you do with a situation like that when someone you know is caught in the gender madness, when someone is caught in it themselves?
00:31:25.060 Talk about your own experience.
00:31:27.340 And when you get lost in those woods, how do you find the way out?
00:31:31.120 Well, that's a great question because a lot of people do get lost.
00:31:34.040 And, you know, a lot of kids go through phases.
00:31:35.800 You know, you get a lot of girls that might be tomboys.
00:31:37.860 Yeah, yeah, sure.
00:31:38.040 And, you know, we had that 20 years ago, but we weren't chopping off their body parts or giving them hormones, right?
00:31:42.680 So this is a very new phenomenon that's happening.
00:31:45.080 My two-year-old spends half of each day as a cat going around saying, no, you know.
00:31:50.040 Right, so you don't, you know, give them a tail, a surgery tail or anything.
00:31:52.420 No, no, I've not given him whiskers and ears.
00:31:54.700 Yeah, and we do see, yeah, you've got a mix between parents that generally want to transition their kids.
00:32:00.400 And it's oftentimes white middle-class parents.
00:32:02.840 It seems to be –
00:32:03.600 How did you know?
00:32:04.660 It seems to be a thing with them, you know, because they've got too much time on their hands.
00:32:07.580 They've got the luxury of, you know, they've got money.
00:32:09.800 So they just want almost to be special.
00:32:11.860 They want their kids to be special.
00:32:12.980 So you have that.
00:32:13.680 And you also have the other side where parents generally are confused.
00:32:17.840 And, you know, doctors or teachers might be saying, oh, your kid is trans.
00:32:20.500 And the kid at the time may feel that way.
00:32:23.060 But, you know, the parents, like Chloe Cole's parents, they took her to the doctor.
00:32:26.080 And the doctor said, you have to transition her.
00:32:27.980 Otherwise, you're going to have a dead child, basically.
00:32:31.020 So that's –
00:32:31.460 She told us that.
00:32:32.240 And that was a heavy, an extremely heavy episode.
00:32:37.000 But, you know, I would just say, based on, you know, my personal experience struggling with gender identity, we all go through phases where we're trying to discover ourself, especially kids and teens.
00:32:45.540 You know, some days they might want to be a cat or a pirate or a dinosaur.
00:32:48.540 But it doesn't mean we should be changing them or putting them on harmful hormones and puberty blockers.
00:32:53.020 So the best case scenario is to, you know, keep an eye out for these warning signs.
00:32:57.700 Maybe the school is indoctrinating the children and suddenly they're talking about pronouns and being trans.
00:33:02.840 So parents need to be aware of what's going on.
00:33:04.880 And in a situation where you have, for instance, a mother transitioning the kid and the father's against it, the father needs to stand up and be a man.
00:33:10.580 And you just say, look, enough is enough.
00:33:12.460 This is our child.
00:33:13.860 Regardless of what the mother might want, you have to let this kid grow up into an adult.
00:33:18.240 And only adults can consent to things because kids can't consent.
00:33:21.680 They can't drink alcohol.
00:33:22.680 They can't smoke.
00:33:23.620 So kids cannot consent to an irreversible sex change.
00:33:26.900 So, you know, I think parents need to wake up and, you know, there are tomboys.
00:33:31.360 There are boys that are a bit more feminine.
00:33:33.100 And that's okay.
00:33:34.060 But just let kids be kids.
00:33:36.180 And so the idea, though, then is, so what do you do, though, right?
00:33:41.240 So a Chloe Cole situation where the parents are being told by the doctors, they can tell something's wrong with their child.
00:33:47.880 And I remember when I interviewed her, I'm thinking about that as a dad myself.
00:33:53.140 If I could tell there was something emotionally wrong with my son and then the doctor's telling me, okay, this is what you need to do or he might kill himself.
00:34:02.060 The idea of having a child commit suicide, it's horrifying.
00:34:05.240 It's actually horrifying.
00:34:06.900 And, no, do I think I'd ever, you know, go in for that?
00:34:09.580 No, probably not.
00:34:10.880 But I can understand.
00:34:11.960 And I can certainly understand for parents that are hearing this.
00:34:15.440 What do you do, then, in that situation?
00:34:17.620 Do you stand up to the doctor?
00:34:18.980 Do you try to pull them out of school?
00:34:21.580 What is the way to sort of, I guess, get through to the individual?
00:34:25.680 Well, that happens a lot with parents, you know, because the doctors, at the end of the day, they're trying to make money from this.
00:34:29.620 So there's a lot of money to be made in putting kids on prescriptions for the rest of their life and surgeries.
00:34:34.580 And, you know, doctors tend to use these coercion tactics to basically threaten the parents that your kid's going to commit suicide.
00:34:40.380 And, you know, a lot of these kids do have severe mental health struggles.
00:34:43.620 They have depression.
00:34:44.300 Some of them already have suicidal tendencies.
00:34:46.860 So, you know, if you're suddenly putting someone that's already got these preexisting conditions and, you know, these kids are six times more likely to be autistic, you're basically misdiagnosing these children.
00:34:55.960 You're basically saying, oh, you're trans.
00:34:57.500 That's the reason you're feeling like this.
00:34:59.240 Let's get you on some hormones.
00:35:00.360 I mean, actually, if they actually helped these kids for treating the autism, the ADHD, bipolar, depression, if they actually treated that and helped the kids with that, you know, you'd find a lot of these problems would be managed and much better.
00:35:11.880 So I think it's a lot of misdiagnosing these kids.
00:35:14.320 And parents just want the best for their kids, right?
00:35:16.360 You know, most parents do.
00:35:17.360 And they see this as a quick fix.
00:35:20.100 Oh, if we transition our kid, they're going to be happy in six months.
00:35:22.520 We don't have to worry about them.
00:35:23.500 But really, doctors should be treating the preexisting conditions that these kids have.
00:35:28.440 So how about then, how about if it's someone like yourself, obviously over the age of consent, over 18, have the ability to make these decisions, what would you say to folks like that,
00:35:40.720 that really are wrestling with this?
00:35:42.860 Well, it's a really tough thing because, look, I've grappled with gender dysphoria and it's a really difficult struggle.
00:35:47.880 And, look, there are adults that may have felt this way their whole life.
00:35:50.820 But there's also right now a social contagion.
00:35:53.200 And so we're seeing people suddenly becoming trans and it's not something they've thought about before because it's a trend, because it's pushed on, you know, TikTok and through the entertainment industry.
00:36:02.680 So, you know, I would just warn adults, you know, don't rush into things because we're seeing now adults just one consultation, like is the case with Elliot Page, who's, you know, Ellen Page, the actress.
00:36:13.680 Right, right, right.
00:36:14.240 You could say it here.
00:36:15.320 You're fine.
00:36:15.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:36:16.320 You know, I get so confused with the names and pronouns and stuff.
00:36:19.360 But, you know, they said that they had a psychotic breakdown and they had voices inside their head before they called the doctor.
00:36:25.480 They called the doctor and immediately booked for a breast, you know, cutting off their breast, basically.
00:36:30.880 Dolphysectomy.
00:36:31.480 And that's an adult.
00:36:32.240 So I think, you know, doctors have a duty to care for patients and they shouldn't be fast tracking even adults.
00:36:38.120 You know, I think adults need to have a number of years of consultations and stuff.
00:36:41.980 I don't think it's a good thing because at the end of the day, I think there's better ways of treating people that are struggling with things.
00:36:46.920 But, you know, adults are adults at the end of the day.
00:36:49.920 It's I think you can only advise them best.
00:36:52.200 And I think a lot of adults are pushed into it without informed consent, without knowing the true horrors.
00:36:57.160 Well, and what you said right there is perfect because and this comes up with within the vaccine debate.
00:37:01.480 This comes up in so many areas.
00:37:02.800 It's informed consent.
00:37:04.760 It's an understanding, a true understanding of what the ramifications of some of these decisions might be.
00:37:11.980 Some of these procedures that may be and I'm not just talking about the hormones, but but but physical procedures that may be completely irreversible.
00:37:21.500 And I and I know as strange as that sounds, it doesn't seem as though people actually consider that because a lot of it.
00:37:27.840 And I think you talked about this last time when I had you on with the special where that they're getting this they're caught in this feedback loop on social media.
00:37:36.180 Tell me about the social media feedback loop.
00:37:38.560 And I know I'm sure this is in the book.
00:37:39.860 Yes, there's a lot of this in about the book because it is a social media generation we're living in right now.
00:37:44.900 And we're seeing a lot of generations that are struggling with their identity and they're thinking that this is a fix their problems or even a way to feel special and validated.
00:37:53.360 So, you know, you see someone, for instance, on TikTok when they're showing their transition, they start off maybe doing a little makeup and the hair extension.
00:37:59.860 This is like the biggest thing on TikTok now.
00:38:01.300 It's the biggest trend.
00:38:02.180 And, you know, TikTok's the one pushing it.
00:38:03.900 And, you know, every time they show an update of their progress, you know, changing their gender, they get more and more comments, more and more views and likes.
00:38:11.160 And you're getting that dopamine reward for this.
00:38:14.640 We're totally supported by the Chinese Communist Party because if they wanted to turn it off, they could.
00:38:18.640 But you end up putting out something like this and it goes viral.
00:38:22.440 And then what?
00:38:23.020 And then what?
00:38:23.600 Then you have to.
00:38:24.160 Because I've seen, for research purposes, Dylan Mulvaney's TikTok.
00:38:29.140 Right.
00:38:29.460 And you can tell that even on there, she, he, I don't even remember at this point, is constantly doing it.
00:38:35.540 And it's chasing the dragon.
00:38:36.920 This is the same thing that addicts do when it's heroin or cocaine because you're chasing the dragon of that next dopamine hit from retweets.
00:38:44.440 Look, I've certainly fallen into that with myself when it comes to social media.
00:38:48.260 And you do, you do some stunt.
00:38:49.840 You do something that goes big.
00:38:50.920 And then you have to go, how do I top that?
00:38:52.520 Right.
00:38:52.660 How do I stop that?
00:38:53.520 I'm going to jump into ice.
00:38:54.700 I'm going to jump into a river.
00:38:55.880 I'm going to do whatever it is.
00:38:57.060 Right.
00:38:57.480 But now, instead of, you know, just, just high risk activities, you're performing high risk actions to yourself.
00:39:05.820 Yeah.
00:39:06.200 And it's not just to themselves.
00:39:07.340 It's actually projecting that onto their audience.
00:39:09.300 So we have to think.
00:39:10.400 That's so true.
00:39:11.040 Yes.
00:39:11.260 Around 30% of TikTok users in the United States are under 18.
00:39:15.360 So teens are seeing this and thinking it's normal.
00:39:18.440 And like you said, people have to outdo themselves on social media.
00:39:21.100 So Dylan Mulvaney, one day he'll claim to be a lesbian.
00:39:23.280 The next day he's claiming to be pregnant or doing tampons.
00:39:25.280 He has to have that shock value in order to retain his audience and, you know, keep, keep the money rolling, basically.
00:39:30.980 So we're seeing a lot of influences.
00:39:32.460 They have to outdo themselves.
00:39:33.940 And that's why you see them injecting testosterone, hormones, sharing their trans journey, because it is about attention.
00:39:39.560 And a lot of these kids, they're just looking for attention.
00:39:42.060 They're not getting it maybe at home or at school or whatever.
00:39:44.740 They just want attention and validation.
00:39:46.260 So they're turning to social media and they're turning to their latest trend, which is being non-binary.
00:39:50.820 It's not just kids, even, even Wayne Brady, apparently.
00:39:53.340 Wayne Brady.
00:39:53.880 They got Wayne Brady, folks.
00:39:55.340 Comes out as pan yesterday.
00:39:56.800 Ollie London.
00:39:57.760 The book is Gender Madness.
00:39:59.500 Go and pre-order it.
00:40:00.900 Where can people follow you?
00:40:02.140 Where can people get more information on your journey and your work?
00:40:04.900 So I'm very vocal on Twitter.
00:40:06.460 I, you know, I post a lot of research about these trans stories and detransitions on Ollie
00:40:10.340 London TV.
00:40:11.440 And the book is going to be really informative and educational.
00:40:14.880 It's available on Amazon, Walmart, Barnes and Nobles right now.
00:40:17.700 And I just think, you know, the book and my Twitter is the way to kind of get the facts
00:40:22.280 about the transitioning and why we shouldn't be doing this to kids and how we can fight
00:40:25.980 up for parents.
00:40:26.820 All right.
00:40:27.020 Ollie, I appreciate it.
00:40:27.680 I know you got to run.
00:40:28.320 You're heading out to Tim Pool for tonight, right?
00:40:29.760 Yes.
00:40:29.980 Can't wait for that.
00:40:30.640 All right.
00:40:30.660 So catch them on TimCast later tonight.
00:40:33.280 Thank you so much for your work.
00:40:34.120 I appreciate it.
00:40:34.440 Jack, appreciate it.
00:40:35.140 Thank you.
00:40:35.900 Thanks.
00:40:36.540 And that's for you as well.
00:40:37.760 All right.
00:40:39.980 I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:40:42.600 So Jack Posobiec, welcome back, folks.
00:40:45.020 We're here live watching DC.
00:40:47.220 Got a copy.
00:40:48.160 Ollie was so nice to give me a copy of Gender Madness here.
00:40:50.960 We're going to take that home.
00:40:52.040 But I saw a tweet right now.
00:40:54.280 Just this completely idiotic tweet from Philip Wegman.
00:41:00.640 I think he's at Real Clear Politics.
00:41:02.260 Is that right?
00:41:03.740 Yeah.
00:41:04.020 Real Clear News.
00:41:04.880 Just as he's at the White House.
00:41:06.280 And Philip does great work.
00:41:07.860 But this tweet, I'm sorry.
00:41:09.060 It's so dumb.
00:41:11.060 It's just so dumb.
00:41:11.760 It's one of the dumbest things I've seen.
00:41:13.260 And let me explain.
00:41:14.380 So it says,
00:41:15.440 The GOP primary frontrunner on this day was Romney in 2011 with plus five, Giuliani in 2007 with plus 10, Trump in 2015 with plus 11.
00:41:26.360 Today, Trump in 2023 leads by 39.1.
00:41:28.860 Okay, so let me break down what's wrong with Phil's tweet.
00:41:35.320 And we're going to help Philip out because we like to help people here on the show.
00:41:38.880 Ollie's here.
00:41:39.660 Ollie's here.
00:41:40.180 Obviously, he's been through a lot.
00:41:42.200 But he's trying to help people.
00:41:44.400 And we're going to try to help people, too.
00:41:45.900 So, this is a quantitative analysis of the primary as it currently stands.
00:41:54.640 But there's no qualitative analysis here.
00:41:57.200 And look, I get real clear politics is going to have the real clear average because that's what they do.
00:42:03.120 But where is the qualitative analysis?
00:42:07.460 Where is the qualitative analysis of the Mitt Romney campaign in 2011, Giuliani in 2007, Trump in 2015, or the ability of those voters to connect with their candidate?
00:42:23.740 Mitt Romney was up, but he was not a widely supported candidate.
00:42:28.840 He was just sort of the default candidate in 2011.
00:42:31.640 I didn't vote for him in 2012.
00:42:32.840 I didn't vote for McCain in 2008, either.
00:42:35.040 So, yeah, was he up?
00:42:36.320 Sure.
00:42:37.580 But what's the qualitative analysis?
00:42:40.120 Giuliani, 2007.
00:42:42.220 I think I voted for Giuliani in that primary, now that I think about it.
00:42:46.560 Yeah, I did vote for Giuliani in that primary in Pennsylvania.
00:42:50.260 Well, in 2008.
00:42:51.520 And then you have Trump in 2015 as an insurgent candidate.
00:42:58.460 The quality of an insurgency.
00:43:00.400 And so I guess what I would say is we look at the numbers a lot.
00:43:05.620 We had Raheem Kassam talk about the numbers.
00:43:07.660 But then Raheem also told you where the numbers were going to go.
00:43:11.960 And he was able to predict it with specificity and give you a time frame as to exactly when we would start to see these numbers for DeSantis, for Trump, everyone else.
00:43:24.940 But why?
00:43:26.620 If you are not conducting a qualitative analysis of candidates, of the candidate's connection to an audience, of the candidate's connection to the base, of what the base wants, of where the base's priorities are, then you're going to lose.
00:43:45.660 So this is a great example of Iowa right now, because I saw a poll this morning.
00:43:49.020 Trump up by 43 in Iowa.
00:43:51.080 Or excuse me, Trump up by 26 in Iowa.
00:43:53.060 43 was New Hampshire.
00:43:55.300 Blame my last, up by 23 in Iowa.
00:43:59.200 Almost 30 points.
00:44:00.540 26, almost 30 points.
00:44:02.260 Why?
00:44:03.660 Why?
00:44:03.880 And we had the question yesterday with Richard Barris, and he's had these evangelical leaders like Bob Vander Plaats, never Trumper, Bob Vander Plaats, who was against Trump all the way through the election in 2016.
00:44:18.700 Why?
00:44:20.180 If he's out there saying Donald Trump is not an evangelical, he's not a good guy, he's used bad words, he's got mean tweets, and yet he's winning poll after poll after poll.
00:44:30.740 Why?
00:44:31.040 It doesn't make any sense, right, if you look at it that way, because he's got his priorities out, because this country has gotten to a place where we are not looking for a moderate centrist to be president.
00:44:46.980 We are not interested in having a policy debate right now.
00:44:51.800 That's not where the people are.
00:44:54.980 Where the people are, people are upset.
00:44:59.320 The people are angry.
00:45:00.320 The people can feel the system crashing all around them.
00:45:06.560 Every system, whether it's the economy, whether if you just want to go on an airplane ride somewhere, and then your flight gets delayed, and then you can't rebook it, and then you miss the trip, and you're out in thousands of dollars, et cetera, et cetera.
00:45:19.220 Why does it feel like we're in a state of collapse?
00:45:24.360 Well, here's a clue.
00:45:25.840 Because we're in something called the fourth turning.
00:45:30.420 Wars are breaking out.
00:45:31.640 There was an assassination in Ecuador yesterday of a right-wing candidate.
00:45:37.780 Why is there so much instability?
00:45:39.960 Why are so many of these things falling apart?
00:45:42.740 Because we are entering the crisis phase.
00:45:44.840 The crisis phase is now.
00:45:48.700 And when you are in a crisis phase, it is not time for the Marquess of Queensbury Republicans.
00:45:57.740 It is not time for the peacetime Roberts Rules of Order conservatives.
00:46:03.800 You need wartime conservatives.
00:46:05.800 You need people who understand that this is not about sitting down and having an argument over your talking points on a tax policy.
00:46:17.840 You've got one side that's willing to use political and legal warfare against their opponents.
00:46:27.240 Republicans are arguing about whether or not the Joe Biden, Hunter Biden stuff is real, and Democrats are locking up their opponents.
00:46:39.440 They've arrested Trump three times, and they're going to do it again, what, not tomorrow, but next week in Georgia.
00:46:45.360 Fannie Willis sitting down there.
00:46:51.000 Understand what time it is.
00:46:53.060 And if you understand what time it is, and you respond to that, if you respond to that by meeting the moment, by giving people an understanding that you are the fighter that will step into the arena, do what needs to be done, and move forward as a country,
00:47:11.060 then maybe we can hand the reins over to a policy guy, then you can rebuild.
00:47:17.520 Because whichever side wins in this crisis period will set the stakes for the next 40 to 50 years, the next generation of America, the next regime, the new American Republic, will be run by the side that wins in this crisis.
00:47:35.500 Now, who do you want that to be?
00:47:38.700 It's a simple question.
00:47:40.020 Because the FBI is rolling up, no-knock raids, pre-dawn raids, pro-lifers, seniors, locking up if you were anywhere near, if you sneeze too hard on January 6th, you get locked up.
00:47:59.020 That's where the FBI is at.
00:48:01.520 That's federal law enforcement breathing down your neck.
00:48:04.000 If you're Catholic, if you're too Catholic, you're praying a little too hard, they're sending informants into your church.
00:48:11.660 And then they're going after the nuns, L.A., the Sisters of Perpetual Insanity.
00:48:17.840 Why are they doing all this?
00:48:19.420 Because it always starts with the churches.
00:48:21.620 They always come for the churches first.
00:48:24.460 That's where the left's at.
00:48:25.480 That's where the left is willing to go.
00:48:28.960 Where are you willing to go?
00:48:31.300 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.