Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - August 15, 2023


EPISODE 539: TRUMP INDICTMENTS BACKFIRE, INDEPENDENTS NOW PREFER TRUMP TO BIDEN AND DESANTIS


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49 minutes

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166.26869

Word Count

8,170

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596

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

On today's episode of Human Events with Jack Posobiec, host Rachel Maddow is joined by Rachel Goodman to discuss the devastating tsunami that struck the Hawaiian island of Maui, and the government's response to the disaster. Plus, a clip of Fannie Willis, the former Georgia attorney general who was charged with conspiracy to commit perjury and conspiracy to obstruct justice.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 We are in a fifth generational conflict.
00:00:40.100 For every lie they tell, we're going to get in their face and yell two truths.
00:00:45.560 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:00:48.540 Deliver us from evil.
00:00:50.260 So as far as the disaster, there are 99 fatalities that are confirmed.
00:00:55.320 Here in Maui, this community is devastated, and we should note it is not out of danger.
00:01:04.140 We also want to make sure that we are getting all of the appropriate information out to survivors.
00:01:08.260 So we are working with our state and local partners to ensure that our outreach and our messaging is also culturally responsive,
00:01:15.080 and that we can get messages out to people so they know what is available to them.
00:01:19.300 On social media, he posted that the government is laser focused on getting aid to survivors, including a one-time $700 payment per household.
00:01:28.120 The grand jury issued arrest warrants for those who are charged.
00:01:33.000 I am giving the defendants the opportunity to voluntarily surrender no later than noon on Friday.
00:01:41.600 A fancy meeting you here.
00:01:42.820 Oh, I can't believe this.
00:01:44.780 Yeah, this is not the circumstances in which I expected to be talking to you.
00:01:48.860 Nor me, Rachel.
00:01:50.220 It's not just Trump's name is on this, but it's the others that are on this.
00:01:53.780 And so we've got Donald John Trump, Rudy Giuliani, John Eastman, Mark Meadows, Ken Cheeseborough, Jeffrey Clark, that's the former Justice Department official,
00:02:04.900 Jenna Ellis, the Trump attorney, Ray Smith, another attorney, Robert Cheely, Mike Roman, and David James Schaefer.
00:02:13.560 Isn't it terrible that a political opponent, though, can haphazardly charge you with a fake crime in the middle of your campaign in order to interfere with your time, your money, your message?
00:02:25.060 And there is nothing you can do in theory to stop this travesty of justice.
00:02:31.700 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events with Jack Posobiec, live from Washington, D.C.
00:02:39.580 Today is August 15th, 2023, Anno Domini.
00:02:44.660 Today is the Feast of the Assumption.
00:02:47.420 You know, Fannie Willis, we've got to ask a lot of questions about Fannie Willis right now.
00:02:53.560 Fannie, what did they promise you?
00:02:56.440 What did they promise you in exchange for all of this?
00:03:01.820 What did you have to sign over?
00:03:04.300 Did they promise you a seat on the Georgia Supreme Court?
00:03:07.720 Did they promise you a run for Congress, a seat in that membership?
00:03:12.600 Did they promise you that you'd be the next Stacey Abrams running for governor?
00:03:16.460 Did they promise you the stars?
00:03:19.280 Did they promise you the heavens, Fannie?
00:03:21.280 Because I've got to tell you, go look at Kim Gardner.
00:03:25.080 She was the last one they tried this with.
00:03:27.540 Yeah, they got what they could out of Kim Gardner.
00:03:29.040 Indictments on Gritens, indictments on the McCluskies, investigation after investigation.
00:03:36.600 But eventually, she ran into a brick wall known as reality.
00:03:41.700 And not only did she have to resign as DA, Kim Gardner,
00:03:47.360 she lost her license completely.
00:03:50.560 And she's now in nursing school.
00:03:53.380 So, I say this to you, Fannie Willis, you gotta think for yourself.
00:04:01.280 What's in it for you?
00:04:02.140 Guys, we have a clip, by the way, of Fannie Willis last night.
00:04:05.740 Can we roll the fanny? Roll the fanny, boys.
00:04:11.200 The grand jury issued arrest warrants for those who are charged.
00:04:15.800 I am giving the...
00:04:18.160 You guys hear that?
00:04:19.560 Just despicable.
00:04:21.520 Just absolutely.
00:04:22.820 I think we need to roll that again.
00:04:24.660 Can we roll that again?
00:04:25.660 Just horrific what our republic has come to.
00:04:28.160 Roll that again, boys.
00:04:29.280 The grand jury issued arrest warrants for those who are charged.
00:04:33.480 I am giving the...
00:04:35.080 This is dangerous.
00:04:37.060 This is unsafe.
00:04:38.940 This is uncharted territories that we're in.
00:04:42.540 Where they say,
00:04:44.400 Donald J. Trump urged people to watch One American News.
00:04:49.040 That Donald Trump was tweeting while he was watching it.
00:04:54.540 That David Schaefer was reserving a room.
00:04:58.040 Mark Meadows offered to...
00:04:59.680 Oh my gosh.
00:05:01.400 Oh my gosh.
00:05:02.700 He offered to pay for signature matching.
00:05:06.500 Let me tell you something, folks.
00:05:07.400 Here's the problem.
00:05:08.620 Here's the problem.
00:05:10.380 The Georgia state legislature.
00:05:13.260 Here, both houses are controlled by Republicans.
00:05:17.520 The Georgia governorship is controlled by a governor, a dry Republican governor.
00:05:21.860 And they won't lift a finger to stop any of this.
00:05:24.960 They could stop right now if they wanted to.
00:05:26.700 The same way that they could have verified those signatures.
00:05:29.880 And they refused to.
00:05:31.160 They refused to.
00:05:32.280 They dragged their feet.
00:05:33.460 Mark Meadows put in.
00:05:34.580 And they decided to charge him for doing that.
00:05:37.420 Are you paying attention yet, folks?
00:05:40.960 It isn't about the enemy at the gates.
00:05:44.180 It's about the traitors in your midst.
00:05:48.100 And we've got people like Fannie Willis running these dangerous, dangerous schemes.
00:05:54.880 And I pray for her.
00:05:58.300 I pray for our republic.
00:05:59.940 I pray for everyone.
00:06:01.880 That when it all comes crashing down around them, that they'll be able to find something to be able to hold on to.
00:06:10.260 I really do.
00:06:11.560 And that's the Christian in me that just wants people to do all.
00:06:15.700 Folks, we've got a huge show today.
00:06:18.180 Richard Barris, Mike Davis coming up next.
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00:06:38.340 All right, Jack Posobiec, live back here, Washington, D.C., Human Events.
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00:07:46.040 Now, I want to bring in our next guest very quickly here, Richard Barris.
00:07:50.800 But first, I want to make sure that he heard everything that Fannie Willis was up to last night.
00:07:56.700 So, folks, we're going to have to play this clip again to make sure that Richard Barris gets to hear the full thing.
00:08:03.060 Guys, go ahead.
00:08:03.860 Play the Fannie again.
00:08:04.700 Hit the Fannie.
00:08:05.560 The grand jury issued arrest warrants for those who are charged.
00:08:09.820 I am giving the...
00:08:11.700 Richard Barris, welcome to Human Events.
00:08:16.240 Thanks for having me, as always, brother.
00:08:18.200 How you doing?
00:08:18.760 Now, when I see things like this, these dangerous actions, this dangerous state of our complete banana republic that we're in, you know, Charlie Kirk posted something earlier today.
00:08:29.880 He said, a donor reached out to me and said, I was told, or I thought, I should say, that all of these indictments, when they came, and we all knew that these were coming, now they've come, now they're here, that they would sink Trump in the polls.
00:08:42.380 And yet, Trump is up 40 points, 50 points in some early states.
00:08:47.380 What went wrong with their thinking?
00:08:50.700 And also, by the way, to add to it, this civics poll that just dropped this morning, with independence, Trump, so Trump, DeSantis, Biden, it has Trump running ahead of DeSantis and Biden when it comes to independence.
00:09:09.900 So, Trump, net negative 17, DeSantis, net negative 26, Biden, net negative 37, that's favorability.
00:09:17.600 So, when we're talking, so 37, 31, 28, respectively, for those, Trump is the leading candidate with independence right now, according to civics.
00:09:26.820 Why was the donor math, or the donor analysis, at least, so completely wrong when looking at the effects of these indictments on this primary?
00:09:34.900 Jack, I think that those are two separate questions, but the answer overlaps, right?
00:09:41.060 And it's amazing to me how I have to explain this to other leaders.
00:09:46.020 It's very simple why these voters aren't abandoning Donald Trump.
00:09:49.880 If a leader doesn't abandon the people who have entrusted him to lead and represent them, the people won't abandon him or her.
00:09:59.780 It's a very simple, you know, human nature rule, you know, I mean, when the leader betrays those people, then they will abandon him.
00:10:09.740 And I find it just astonishing that I have to explain this so, so simple, you know, of an idea to other leaders.
00:10:19.860 So, if you did what he did for your people, for your constituents, they wouldn't abandon you either, but they don't.
00:10:27.640 They do what's expedient.
00:10:29.060 They do what they feel, you know, the system, Washington, the media want them to do often, and that's why they don't get the loyalty that he has.
00:10:38.560 When it comes to independence, again, you know, I've been on the show so much.
00:10:41.960 We've been talking about this.
00:10:43.400 I think a lot of this is baked into the cake.
00:10:45.340 And there's not universal understanding that there are crimes being committed, right?
00:10:50.300 So, if you bring a bribery or corruption charge against Joe Biden, it's such an easy, very point A to point B.
00:10:57.140 This is what Biden did wrong.
00:10:58.440 He sold U.S. foreign policy.
00:11:00.660 He took bribes through his, you know, his bag-handling son.
00:11:04.140 That's a simple thing.
00:11:05.820 And then, universally, people on the left, scholars on the left, on the right will say, yeah, that's a crime.
00:11:11.320 Here with Donald Trump, what it looks like is not a simple point A to point B.
00:11:16.640 I see the fact pattern.
00:11:19.600 This is a crime.
00:11:20.880 This looks like a system trying to take down an opponent.
00:11:24.320 And these indictments were all baked into the cake.
00:11:27.680 And Charlie talks to a lot of the same donors, I think, that we are talking to, and we're all hearing the same thing.
00:11:33.480 And the bottom line is they were told that that January 6th indictment was their, pun intended, Trump card.
00:11:39.140 And that one was going to be the one that heard him, and the others would just serve as a pile-on.
00:11:44.400 They were so foolish here, Jack.
00:11:47.260 So foolish.
00:11:48.280 I mean, they just don't understand not only the Republican electorate, but as you can see with these polls, they don't understand people, brother.
00:11:56.820 They don't understand people.
00:11:58.900 And that is a major problem because politics is all about people.
00:12:03.240 And this is why we're in a point in our history where people just feel like they're not represented.
00:12:07.160 Look, I said this to Perusa Fazda earlier today, and I said, look, I come from the Philly area, right?
00:12:15.380 If you go up to an Eagles fan and you tell them to put on a Steelers jersey, you could sit there and say, oh, they got a better quarterback, and they've got a track record, and they've got championships, and they're a lock for the Super Bowl, and the statistics say this, this, and this.
00:12:32.920 You're lucky that if you end that interaction after telling an Eagles fan to put on a Steelers jersey, you're lucky if you end that interaction with just getting cursed out in your face and not a couple of punches, elbows, or potentially tire iron swung at your head.
00:12:48.380 Okay, this is what we're talking about here, right?
00:12:52.160 That is the direct emotional connection that whether the donors like it or not, that this group of people has with Donald Trump.
00:13:01.800 That being said, I think you're right because I think there's a huge element here, and you can call them the sort of like the Joe Rogan audience, barstool conservatives, this sort of center, middle.
00:13:18.040 People, they're listening to Huberman Labs, they're listening to a lot of YouTube, a lot of podcasts, but they're not exactly following political news, they're not junkies like you and I are every day, they should be, they might know what's going on in this world, but I digress.
00:13:33.200 I think that's where a lot of the independents are these days, and those people are looking at Biden saying, this guy's spoiled, he's spoiled rotten, and they look at Trump and say, they're doing everything they can to get rid of him rather than actually stand up and face the music for their own actions.
00:13:54.320 Does that make sense?
00:13:55.260 Does my thesis bear fruit?
00:13:57.200 Do you believe?
00:13:58.400 It does.
00:13:59.280 I mean, he looks like a crook to the average person, and yeah, that center left person too, I think is an important part of this equation, because I wouldn't put Joe Rogan on the right, no matter what the media says.
00:14:11.220 I wouldn't put Tim Pool on the right, but if you watch Tim Pool, he's terrified, he's disgusted by what's going on.
00:14:18.480 So, I mean, anyone, and Joe Rogan said it the other day, said it last week, you're not critically thinking if you don't see the big picture here.
00:14:26.140 So, that leaves them jacked with their partisans, and when it comes to the independents in this argument, most independents have a lean one way or the other, and for a long time, Ron DeSantis was kind of coasting on this, you know, this high of being a re-elected governor, and a chunk still didn't really know who he was.
00:14:45.600 I have to explain to people who live in Florida, your governor is not the most known person in the country, so it took some time.
00:14:51.840 And as they got to know him, the more they did, the least they liked him.
00:14:55.820 And even those independents who lean Republican certainly do not support these indictments against Donald Trump.
00:15:02.340 And when you see somebody, an ambitious somebody, trying to, you know, essentially, you know, work within this system that is dirty to take Trump out, it just, it puts DeSantis in the basket with the other rotten eggs, brother.
00:15:21.520 That's what's happening.
00:15:22.120 Well, and not only that, so this is, this is the two islands theory that we've talked about, Tyler Boyer's talking about this, but also, and I think we've been seeing something, this bears out in sort of the Iowa versus New Hampshire polling, where DeSantis is polling much higher in Iowa, sinking like a rock in New Hampshire.
00:15:39.460 He's down to several digits.
00:15:41.440 And we saw this again with, we saw this with Huckabee, we saw this with Cruz, we saw this with Santorum, that they moved so far socially on the right, or played so far to that audience to try to win Iowa, they end up winning Iowa, but then it ends up hurting them with the Granite State, hurting them in the Rust Belt.
00:16:01.880 Are you seeing that same, that same tack play out with DeSantis when we look at some of these independent numbers?
00:16:07.020 Without a doubt, and by the way, he probably won't even win Iowa, so all those other candidates we just rattled off had a better chance of pulling off an upset in Iowa than Ron DeSantis does.
00:16:18.700 The problem DeSantis has, and the people who are all aligned with DeSantis, is that evangelicals are not in their own, you know, category this time, Jack.
00:16:29.340 Normally, they vote differently than non-evangelicals.
00:16:32.200 Right now, in our last Iowa poll, the lead Trump had among evangelicals is about the same as the lead he had among non-evangelicals.
00:16:40.580 The reason is very simple.
00:16:42.100 When we ask them, what is your priority for voting?
00:16:45.220 When you are choosing who to caucus for, why are you doing it?
00:16:48.840 The social issues that they forced, you know, that the Bob Vander Plaats and the Steve Deeses and others forced Ron DeSantis, and again, he got that advice from his consultants, those issues are not high in the minds of evangelicals.
00:17:03.120 I think the last poll we did, about 17% of evangelicals said that that is what they were voting on.
00:17:09.020 And by the way, Trump still led with them.
00:17:11.120 He just led by a smaller margin.
00:17:12.840 For them this time, it's the deep state defeating Biden and addressing the administrative state and the economy.
00:17:21.960 So on both of those metrics, on the issue, Trump wins it.
00:17:25.360 Are you saying it's the rich men north of Richmond that people are voting against?
00:17:30.840 Yeah.
00:17:31.500 Because with a great insight that I haven't heard anyone else say about Oliver Anthony's song, he doesn't, you know what he doesn't talk about in that song?
00:17:39.240 He doesn't talk about wokeness, he doesn't talk about transgender, he doesn't talk about LGBT agenda.
00:17:45.180 And I'm not saying those things don't matter.
00:17:46.640 I'm saying there's a thing called Maslow's hierarchy.
00:17:49.760 And if you understand Maslow's hierarchy, if people can't afford to eat, if they can't afford basic shelter, those interests are going to come first.
00:17:58.640 Those interests are going to move people first.
00:18:00.520 Stay tuned.
00:18:00.700 And we're coming back with more from the People's Pundit, really the People's Pollster, too, by the way, Richard Barris, joining us here at Human Events to walk through how the news that we've seen lately is affecting the numbers with independence across this great nation.
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00:19:47.720 And guys, just again, because I know we've got some people that are just tuning in, I want to make sure that we're all very focused on what it is that we're up against here in America today.
00:19:59.700 So we're going to have to hit the fanny again.
00:20:01.820 Hit the fanny, boys.
00:20:02.520 The grand jury issued arrest warrants for those who are charged.
00:20:07.140 I am giving the.
00:20:09.560 Just absolutely horrific.
00:20:11.300 The danger, the lack of safety that she is perpetuating for our own house and the government.
00:20:17.300 Rich Barris, I want to come back in here now.
00:20:20.120 We're looking at these numbers.
00:20:22.020 Walk me through, right?
00:20:23.460 Walk me through again, this disconnect between donors, the heads of, you know, the strategists behind DeSantis, which is really largely donor driven.
00:20:35.240 And I think we all we all realize that now there's a certain click of high dollar donors that decided to astroturf this campaign.
00:20:42.580 And then also this this lack of connection that he's been unable to make, I should say, lack of connection that he's been unable to make on the campaign trail.
00:20:53.360 We saw this in Iowa where Trump literally shadowed over him at one point with his airplane, multiple airplanes, actually.
00:21:00.260 That was one of the most embarrassing that was up there with the police clap moment.
00:21:05.920 If you really want to be honest, here he is coming overhead.
00:21:09.980 There were already people in the crowd with Trump signs.
00:21:12.540 I mean, he was being heckled.
00:21:13.580 But when people leave your event in the middle of you speaking to go greet another candidate, you're obviously, you know, not not close to overtaking that candidate or drawing the loyalty or or the inspiration that the other one is drawing.
00:21:29.460 So, you know, one of the biggest things I heard, I heard this a lot from donors who would like get their pitch and then try to relay it.
00:21:37.860 And really, I would always say, are you trying to convince me or are you trying to convince yourself that that makes sense?
00:21:43.180 Because it doesn't. But one of the big things is that is lack of personal personal connection.
00:21:49.420 He can't connect with voters because he's not very likable.
00:21:51.980 He's not a good retail politician. He's an awkward dude.
00:21:54.660 And anyone who's ever met him knows that.
00:21:56.740 And they would say, but he's so smart and he's going to charm the voters with his knowledge of policy and seriousness.
00:22:02.620 And it just would make me laugh because I actually had several people tell me that he's so smart.
00:22:09.100 It's our fault that we can't understand him and we don't understand where he's coming from.
00:22:14.060 And if you don't see it, even though he's, you know, half round, like so smart on the spectrum, smart, you know, I'm thinking, what are you talking about?
00:22:21.400 That isn't a good quality to have if you're running for president, if you want to be a presidential candidate.
00:22:26.460 This is nuts.
00:22:27.460 But that's what appealed to them, Jack.
00:22:30.800 It doesn't speaking to everyday people is not a priority for them.
00:22:34.240 And then the other one that we heard a lot about is that they really thought that even if, you know, he won in a bitter battle, that the Trump voter would vote for him at the end of the day.
00:22:45.580 Their newest, newest argument is we will get the Trump voters to vote for us because we're essentially going to try to blackmail them or extort them, however you want to view it.
00:22:56.000 If you don't vote for me, we're removing Trump from the ballot because of these things.
00:23:01.520 And if you don't like it, you have no choice but to vote for me because I'll pardon Trump when I get in.
00:23:07.560 But if you don't vote for me, Biden will win and he'll spend the rest of his life in jail.
00:23:11.800 This is how they view people.
00:23:13.920 Like you're going to like like you're going to play chicken with the voter like that or something.
00:23:19.240 I'm telling you, Jack, this is got to come to a head eventually.
00:23:22.920 But I don't think people like being treated that way.
00:23:25.980 I just don't.
00:23:27.120 Let's let's let's let's no let's curve though.
00:23:29.200 Now let's curve though then.
00:23:31.000 And let's talk general because let's say, OK, and I think everybody, you know, the betting markets are there.
00:23:36.200 People think people seem to think Trump's got this locked up.
00:23:39.180 So let's let's put that aside.
00:23:40.840 Let's table it and say Trump wins the nomination.
00:23:42.640 And this this gauntlet that they're putting Trump through trials that will be going on.
00:23:48.760 Sometimes it looks like they're even overlapping in terms of some of these trials going on during the primaries, during the caucuses.
00:23:56.840 Obviously, this has never happened before in American history.
00:24:01.300 But if you can, what do you think happens if we if he wins the nomination?
00:24:06.640 Because I think there's some that that say, OK, he's got the nomination.
00:24:10.780 That'll be in August in Milwaukee at the convention.
00:24:13.740 Let's say he wins that.
00:24:14.960 You know, they try to contest it.
00:24:15.960 It doesn't work.
00:24:16.540 Now we go into the general.
00:24:18.180 How does this play out when you've got a man standing trial while he's also running up against an incumbent president?
00:24:26.840 I we haven't been here before, so it's hard for me to honestly speak with authority on this.
00:24:33.120 And anyone being honest would claim the same.
00:24:35.860 However, I think that some fundamentals exist here.
00:24:40.700 Americans like an underdog.
00:24:42.940 They don't like being told what they can and cannot do or who they can and cannot support.
00:24:48.380 And that will work in Trump's favor along with the record.
00:24:51.320 All right.
00:24:51.960 Especially if there's economic hardship going forward in that final year.
00:24:56.580 Which a lot of projections suggest the economy can be in a very bad way.
00:25:01.640 We we have to you know, we have to think of it like this.
00:25:07.240 Whomever the Republican nominee is Joe Biden, of course.
00:25:11.200 And it's not just Joe Biden.
00:25:12.840 The administrative state, the status quo power will be difficult to beat, even though Trump is leading in our polls.
00:25:20.720 That being said, I mean, I'm getting more confident about this every day that passes.
00:25:26.220 Even with all of that, he still is the one who has the best chance of winning.
00:25:30.580 It's really that simple because you could lose in a narrow election like he's done or you could get killed.
00:25:36.440 That's the the unfair balance that Republicans face in this in this modern electoral world, in this map that we look at every day.
00:25:45.100 And if you keep the Trump voter home because you did something to prevent him from winning the nomination, he's well into a majority now, Jack.
00:25:53.400 I mean, they're doing all of this to try to subvert the will of the majority.
00:25:56.680 He's well into a majority.
00:25:58.880 If you do that, there will be blowback.
00:26:01.540 And all of those headlines you saw on the Hill and The Washington Post over the weekend with some people expressing concern there will be a depression in turnout.
00:26:09.780 I'm here to tell you it's real.
00:26:12.060 You will lose 15 to 20 percent of his vote.
00:26:16.040 You will get killed.
00:26:17.320 Democrats will harvest 85 million votes, maybe more, and you will get stomped.
00:26:22.920 Mitt Romney got about 60 million votes, folks.
00:26:25.840 That's it.
00:26:27.140 That's all.
00:26:28.280 And without Donald Trump, you're going to go right back down to those territories.
00:26:32.080 You'll probably lose Ohio, Iowa.
00:26:34.520 Remember, when John McCain lost, he lost Indiana and Obama was nipping on the heels of him in Missouri.
00:26:41.060 He almost lost the show me state, Jack, which Trump wins overwhelmingly.
00:26:45.740 Right.
00:26:46.320 So this is this is real.
00:26:48.800 They will protest.
00:26:49.860 They will stay home.
00:26:50.800 And I bet.
00:26:52.360 Well, I'll save that because in our next national, we're actually going to measure how many people would write in, you know, Donald Trump if they somehow removed him from the ballot.
00:27:03.220 We already know.
00:27:03.700 By the way, the Hill.
00:27:04.620 Stay home.
00:27:04.880 You know, and I have to double down on that.
00:27:07.240 You mentioned it for a second there, but don't bury the lead because the Hill had the article this week.
00:27:11.320 Of course.
00:27:11.760 That had the thesis that you've been putting out every single time I have you on that Republicans face a turnout disaster if Donald Trump is not on the ticket.
00:27:21.540 You're facing, you know, a defeat, you know, at the size and scope of something we haven't seen since like Reagan beat Carter or I'm not even kidding, folks.
00:27:37.060 It would look like that.
00:27:38.240 Republicans would hold the reddest of the red states and they would lose every single battleground state.
00:27:44.200 Maybe because DeSantis is a home state governor, maybe, you know, if it was him, he could hold on to Florida, but it would be a total wipeout.
00:27:52.720 People are mad and it's about time for the donor class to get their heads out of their butts unless they just don't want.
00:27:58.920 I'm talking about a defeat that puts the puts into question the viability of the Republican Party as a national political force.
00:28:06.320 This has happened before.
00:28:07.980 I remember every Democrat that I know used to say that to me in the McCain years and the Romney years.
00:28:15.320 They said this was the refrain.
00:28:16.520 The Republicans are going to become a regional party.
00:28:19.000 You're going to be a southern party, maybe some parts of the Midwest.
00:28:22.360 That's what they were saying all along through the Obama years that the Republicans cannot play anymore.
00:28:28.120 They do not have the ability to reach out.
00:28:30.540 That's when Donald Trump came in and he remade the map.
00:28:33.120 We would not be looking at the map we are right now if it wasn't for Donald Trump.
00:28:36.300 And I hear what you're saying there as well, that without him, it reverts back because none of these other Republicans have been able to show that they can fit into the mold that he built.
00:28:46.820 That's exactly right.
00:28:48.120 They'll keep chasing the fake swing suburban woman voter, which is not the swing voter anymore.
00:28:55.040 That's not even a swing voter.
00:28:56.680 That voter has been a trending Democrat voter, and it will remain so until some kind of economic calamity or something happens.
00:29:06.860 You could always make inroads with them, but we are long past the days of the 04 national security moms.
00:29:13.200 They are gone.
00:29:14.560 Issue one in Ohio should have been a wake-up call for Republicans.
00:29:18.260 They lost the Northeast all throughout Trumbull, Mahoning.
00:29:22.040 They got cream there.
00:29:23.600 And why?
00:29:24.460 That's Obama country.
00:29:25.600 In 08 and in 12 when he beat Romney, that was all Obama country.
00:29:30.400 Gerard Brown is still, to this day, polling in the lead in that area.
00:29:35.080 It's also where Donald Trump wins.
00:29:37.000 He pushes that coalition, boxes Democrats all the way up into Cuyahoga County in the Northeast, and in the Northwest, it boxes them from Woods all the way up into Toledo, the inner cities.
00:29:51.320 One minute left, Rich.
00:29:54.040 Tell us what you're working on.
00:29:55.600 National polls coming up.
00:29:58.240 Go to peoplespundit.locals.com.
00:30:00.540 We're going to do, obviously, the nomination again.
00:30:02.880 We're going to do the head-to-heads, the general stuff.
00:30:05.080 But we're also asking a couple of questions, which are, you know, they're spicy, Jack.
00:30:10.040 But we want to know what lengths—we're seeing all these indictments.
00:30:14.260 We want to know what lengths certain voters are willing to go to, you know, in the name of power in this country.
00:30:20.420 And, of course, we have to ask it on both sides, just to be fair.
00:30:23.660 But is it okay with you to persecute political opponents?
00:30:26.540 We're going to find out.
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00:30:33.340 They abhor its fairness.
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00:30:40.620 Mike Davis joins us next here as Human Events continues.
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00:30:57.360 All right, Jack Posobiec live, Washington, D.C.
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00:31:50.100 We're going to bring in Mike Davis here, but I want to just kind of reset the conversation, guys.
00:31:54.760 I know we've been talking about polling a lot, but we really need to focus on these indictments specifically from Fannie Willis in Georgia, Fulton County, Georgia.
00:32:04.720 And there was a short clip of her earlier, you know, before the show, late last night, I should say, where something very brief but important came out.
00:32:15.840 Let's hit the Fannie, boys.
00:32:17.360 The grand jury issued arrest warrants for those who are charged.
00:32:21.760 I am giving the...
00:32:23.760 All right, Mike Davis, Article 3 Project joins us now.
00:32:26.280 Mike, walk us through how should Republicans look at charges like this?
00:32:31.060 A RICO investigation going on in the middle of a primary.
00:32:35.820 You've read the document.
00:32:36.920 I actually read all 98 pages last night.
00:32:39.400 I thought it was ridiculous.
00:32:41.400 Walk me through, though.
00:32:42.560 What's the process look like from here?
00:32:45.300 I always say this indictment is loud.
00:32:49.120 It's long and it's lawless.
00:32:51.420 It is ridiculous what she's charging here.
00:32:53.440 She's bringing a organized crime conspiracy indictment that you would bring against the mob, against President Trump and his lawyers and his top advisors for the non-crime of objecting to a presidential election, which is allowed by the Electoral Count Act of 1887 and twisting arms politically, which is allowed by the First Amendment.
00:33:18.240 You and I have been talking about this for a year, Jack, since the unprecedented, unnecessary, unlawful home raid on President Trump last August for the non-crime of a former president having his presidential records.
00:33:32.040 This is lawfare by the Democrats.
00:33:33.960 They went after Trump for his presidential records.
00:33:36.920 Jack Smith indicted him over that.
00:33:39.280 Jack Smith also indicted President Trump, like Fannie Willis, for this non-crime of objecting to a presidential election.
00:33:45.940 This is after the Manhattan DA, Alvin Bragg, the Soros-funded DA, indicted Trump for the non-crime of a businessman settling or, excuse me, paying back banks in full.
00:33:59.000 And it's just with interest.
00:34:01.360 This is absurd what they're doing with this lawfare against President Trump.
00:34:08.340 Tish James, I'm sorry, Tish James is the one who brought the civil fraud claim against Trump for the non-fraud of a businessman settling, paying back banks in full with interest, sophisticated banks.
00:34:21.080 Alvin Bragg charged Trump for the non-crime of a businessman settling a nuisance claim.
00:34:25.640 This is all-out lawfare against President Trump because Democrats fear they can't beat him on November 5th, 2024.
00:34:32.180 And their fear is probably right.
00:34:34.760 If you look at the polling, these indictments are actually backfiring on the Democrats.
00:34:40.480 They're backfiring on Biden and Garland and Jack Smith and Fannie Willis and Alvin Bragg and Tish James.
00:34:48.960 They're making Trump stronger.
00:34:51.460 The Alvin Bragg indictment won Trump the Republican primary.
00:34:54.920 The first Jack Smith indictment put Trump in close contention with Biden for the general election.
00:35:03.280 The second Jack Smith indictment, I think, won him the presidency.
00:35:07.680 And I think this latest indictment down in Georgia, in Atlanta, by Fannie Willis, is going to help Trump win the presidency by like two or three percentage points comfortably.
00:35:19.500 The American people are not going to stand for the proposition that Democrat prosecutors and Democrat judges and Democrat juries and Democrat hellholes, instead of the American people, get to decide who is our president.
00:35:34.980 That is not going to fly in America.
00:35:37.700 That's what you do in Zimbabwe and other third world Marxist hellholes, and now New York, D.C., and Atlanta.
00:35:44.060 It's not going to work.
00:35:44.960 This is going to backfire.
00:35:46.300 This indictment is bogus.
00:35:47.920 They're charging.
00:35:49.260 This is yet where you have to step.
00:35:50.940 Go ahead, Jack.
00:35:51.440 I'm sorry.
00:35:52.300 Oh, no.
00:35:52.620 I had a quick question.
00:35:53.780 So yesterday we had this incredible series of events where the charges were posted in a docket report online.
00:36:02.440 Fannie Willis then comes out, says that it was fake, later says she knew nothing about it, tries to disown it.
00:36:09.680 We read through them here in this hour yesterday on the show.
00:36:13.800 Then they hold the court open until almost midnight last night.
00:36:17.420 She comes out with the charges.
00:36:18.880 It's identical.
00:36:19.780 It is identical to what came out in that charging document or that docket report last night or yesterday afternoon.
00:36:27.020 And so when it's identical like this, does the Trump legal team have grounds here to challenge this either at the state level or the federal level?
00:36:37.960 Because this seems like a blatant violation of due process.
00:36:41.280 Yeah, this is an egregious violation of Trump's constitutional rights.
00:36:49.840 They posted an indictment on Trump before the grand jury had a chance to review the evidence, deliberate, and vote.
00:36:57.780 And then they lied about this.
00:36:59.400 And Lydon said that this was fake.
00:37:01.880 Like, how is it fake?
00:37:03.600 They're identical.
00:37:04.040 Like you said, Jack.
00:37:05.760 And I think what President Trump should do is have this judge assigned to this case certainly look into this.
00:37:12.620 It was an improper and illegal leak from a grand jury that harms President Trump's constitutional rights.
00:37:22.000 And I'd have to look at Georgia law, but I would think that the Georgia attorney general could open an investigation here when you have misconduct by these lawless, rogue Democrat prosecutors like Fulton County DA Fannie Willis.
00:37:37.280 Now, a lot of people are saying, and I know Alan Dershowitz has been out there saying that, OK, this, you know, timing wise is this is really what it's about.
00:37:47.220 It's about the timing, because even if these cases are found, are tried very quickly, convictions come in.
00:37:55.980 I think in D.C., that's obvious.
00:37:58.020 Fulton County, not exactly a fan of Donald Trump.
00:38:00.740 That's Atlanta.
00:38:01.220 So even if they get appealed, that the appeals might have to play out until after the election just because of the length of the process.
00:38:09.800 Walk us through a little bit.
00:38:10.980 How does that work?
00:38:11.880 Even if the Supreme Court fixes it, timing wise, are they able to step in?
00:38:16.540 And I guess the more salient question is, do you think they would four times?
00:38:21.760 Well, I mean, here's the issue that these prosecutors are clearly running an organized lawfare campaign.
00:38:27.380 Notice how Fannie Willis, when she was asked last night if she is cooperating with Jack Smith and the Biden Justice Department, she declined to answer that.
00:38:36.500 That's a pretty clear sign that she's, in fact, colluding with Jack Smith and the Biden Justice Department.
00:38:43.160 This is obvious lawfare by them.
00:38:45.720 As for the timing, they waited 30 months to bring these charges, 30 months.
00:38:50.980 And now they just all happen to be times where they're they're indicting the former president and a leading presidential rival to President Biden.
00:39:00.520 They just happen to time these a couple months apart.
00:39:02.900 And they are now demanding trials during the presidential election season after they waited 30 months.
00:39:10.140 What President Trump and his legal team.
00:39:11.840 And they're working the election clock.
00:39:13.880 Of course.
00:39:14.500 And so what President Trump and his legal team can do right now, they should file a motion to dismiss these indictments.
00:39:20.600 And on these January 6th indictments, as it relates to Jack Smith and Fannie Willis, they can file a motion to dismiss.
00:39:29.180 And they can say that on two grounds.
00:39:31.080 Number one, that there's presidential immunity.
00:39:33.680 And President Trump was acting within his official capacity, even at the outer bounds of his official capacity when he was trying to enforce the Electoral Count Act of 1887.
00:39:47.200 Alternatively, they can argue that if he's acting within his personal capacity, that the First Amendment protects this.
00:39:53.340 And so he's either protected by presidential immunity or the First Amendment.
00:39:56.960 And the issue with presidential immunity is that is immediately appealable.
00:40:01.620 Right. So you can get an interlocutory appeal and put these proceedings on ice while the appellate courts are deciding these issues.
00:40:11.120 And it could go up to the, you know, through the Georgia appellate courts, Georgia Supreme Court.
00:40:16.140 And if you don't get a ruling, a favorable ruling from the Georgia Supreme Court, and he should under either one of those grounds, then you can take it straight up to the Supreme Court.
00:40:26.120 All right. And this is why we have appeals courts.
00:40:28.700 This is why we have the layered system that we do.
00:40:31.280 This is why we have federalism.
00:40:33.100 This is why we have the Supreme Court, because we've known and throughout history, American history, there have been issues with lower courts that the higher courts have stepped in to correct.
00:40:44.160 That's actually the purpose for the system.
00:40:47.060 I guess when it comes to the Supreme Court, we certainly hope that they're willing to take it up.
00:40:52.160 We hope they're willing to stand, again, not on one side, left or right in politics, but on the side of the Constitution.
00:40:57.880 We're going to take a quick break, be back here with our final segment with Mike Davis, the Article 3 Project, to walk us through all the insanity that's going on right now, but how we will be able to come through this together.
00:41:11.300 All right, two things before we get back to Mike Davis.
00:41:25.160 Number one, and I said this earlier in the show, the entire government of Georgia is controlled by Republicans.
00:41:34.780 So if you are within the sound of my voice or you know someone who is that is in the state of Georgia, call your legislators, call your state senators, and definitely light up the phones in Governor Kemp's office.
00:41:52.060 You need to put a stop to this right now.
00:41:54.620 I am calling for mass action.
00:41:57.460 Call, call, call, call.
00:41:59.220 Be peaceful, be patriotic, but do not stop dialing those numbers into Georgia, into the governor's office, your state reps, your state senators asking, why are you not doing anything about the crime in Atlanta?
00:42:13.640 Why are you not doing anything to stop this rogue prosecutor?
00:42:16.000 Why are you not stopping this?
00:42:17.620 And here's number two, because I want to make sure that we all know exactly who it is that is bringing these bogus charges against Trump down in Fulton County.
00:42:26.300 Boys, we're going to have to do it at least one more time here.
00:42:29.040 Let's hit the fanny.
00:42:30.640 The grand jury issued arrest warrants for those who are charged.
00:42:35.220 I am giving the.
00:42:37.560 Mike Davis, that's what the people can do right now.
00:42:40.840 Let's talk legal options, though.
00:42:42.880 So you mentioned one one way that they could file a motion for dismissal of these charges.
00:42:49.320 Are there any other motions?
00:42:50.580 Is there any way that they that the Trump legal team can fight back by going directly to the federal level here?
00:42:58.320 Any other options that they can pull out for these blatant disregard of due process, blatant disregard of the Constitution?
00:43:05.460 The fact the president has the legal authority to do this.
00:43:08.000 And by the way, as a U.S. citizen, has the First Amendment right to tell people to watch TV if they like what they're watching.
00:43:15.200 I mean, there's a lot the Trump team could be doing.
00:43:19.020 I think the motion to dismiss the indictment for presidential immunity or alternatively under the First Amendment is the key thing that they need to do right away.
00:43:26.980 They need to look at maybe they can get Fannie Willis kicked off this case because like the judge kicked her off another case with the lieutenant governor because she was fundraising for the lieutenant governor's opponent.
00:43:41.320 She she she set up a fundraising website.
00:43:44.280 Fannie Willis set up a fundraising website before she brought forward this unprecedented indictment, this lawfare against President Trump, who is a leading Republican presidential candidate.
00:43:57.860 So there are some recusal issues there, maybe forced recusal issues with old Fannie Willis there.
00:44:06.300 There's also House Republicans need to step it up.
00:44:08.940 They have been very disappointing.
00:44:11.300 We can do more than tweet here.
00:44:13.300 House Republicans need to look at appropriation writers where they have two writers.
00:44:18.160 Number one, no federal funds may be used for the prosecution of any major presidential candidate on or before November 5th, 2024.
00:44:27.940 And no, no state or local jurisdiction, any state or local jurisdiction that prosecutes a major presidential candidate on or before November 5th, 2024 loses all federal funding.
00:44:41.700 This is a stand that House Republicans must take, even if that means shutting down the government, because if you are going to prosecute your political enemies,
00:44:50.940 that is that is that is how the Roman Republic fell, that Caesar was forced to cross the Rubicon from Gaul into Rome because of the lawfare.
00:44:59.740 He he felt he had no other choice.
00:45:01.500 And that led to civil war in the fall of the Roman Republic.
00:45:04.780 I mean, we are going down a dangerous path politically and legally in this country.
00:45:09.660 If you think that we're going to become Zimbabwe and just throw our political rivals in prison for non-crimes.
00:45:16.960 And so House Republicans need to end this immediately, this lawfare immediately, because it is republic ending lawfare.
00:45:24.100 And so they need to step it up. House Republicans also need to move forward with an impeachment inquiry on President Biden for his corruption abroad,
00:45:32.340 his foreign bribes and other corruption, along with his weaponization of his Justice Department to go after his presidential rival.
00:45:39.400 Trump Biden is the one who had his deputy White House counsel, Jonathan Suh, green light the unprecedented,
00:45:46.920 unnecessary and unlawful home raid against President Trump a year ago in Mar-a-Lago.
00:45:51.880 And that's led to this year of lawfare. What's also led to this year of lawfare is the House Republicans haven't done much to stop it.
00:45:58.960 Right. And tweets are not going to stop it. They need to have impeachment.
00:46:02.300 They need to cut off funding. They need to have oversight hearings immediately.
00:46:05.560 They need to subpoena documents. We need to find out that Fannie Willis wouldn't answer the question why she whether she was coordinating with Jack Smith and the Biden Justice Department.
00:46:14.380 House Republicans need to subpoena those records immediately from the Justice Department and from Fannie Willis.
00:46:21.880 Hold them in. Hold them in before the cameras and the bright lights. Make them explain this to the American people.
00:46:28.340 Send out your staff to do depositions.
00:46:31.100 I couldn't agree with you more. House Republicans need to actually start using their power.
00:46:36.860 We elected the House GOP for a reason. Tell me, where can people go to follow you, get all the updates for Article 3?
00:46:42.960 By the way, you've been doing you've crushed it on media. So thank you for for taking the time to be with us here today.
00:46:48.740 Really appreciate it, Jack. People can donate at Article3Project.org, Article3Project.org.
00:46:54.300 I'm at Article3Project at Article3Project on Getter Twitter Truth. My personal at M-R-D-D-M-I-A.
00:47:03.140 And I will tweet from jail because this lawfare is not going to stop me from defending Trump and the rule of law because our country is going to come to an end if they succeed.
00:47:13.180 Mike, God bless. By the way, I've got a number here, folks. This is where people can call Brian Kemp directly, the office of the governor. It's 404-656-1776.
00:47:27.820 That number again, 404-656-1776. The only way this ends is with mutual escalation on both sides.
00:47:41.100 You need Republicans in red zone districts to start looking at where's Hunter Biden? Did he commit a crime here? We're going to go after it.
00:47:49.280 You need Republicans in the House going hardball. You need to play hardball.
00:47:54.940 If that means shutting down the government, if that means doing subpoenas, if that means bringing Trump in, testify, whatever it is, we are going to go for it.
00:48:03.480 Folks, this is the only way to get each side to put down the levers of lawfare, mutually assured destruction through escalation.
00:48:14.120 I believe, guys, do we have here, can we play, I think we have another clip, actually, not the clip we played before of Fannie Willis, but another clip.
00:48:21.360 Do we have that clip, boys, that we can play as we go out here?
00:48:25.280 All right, so let's go out on that.
00:48:27.020 This is another, we've actually, what we've done here is we've removed, apparently there was a clip of Fannie Willis that didn't make it to air last night.
00:48:36.220 We've recovered this clip here for the Human Events audience.
00:48:40.540 We're going to leave it with you.
00:48:41.620 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay a short.
00:48:44.580 Let's play the clip, boys.
00:48:45.900 A Fulton County grand jury returned a true bill of indictment, charging 19 individuals with violations of Georgia law arising from a criminal conspiracy to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election in this state.