EPISODE 545： PRIGOZHIN PLANE CRASH IN RUSSIA, GOVT BLOCKED ROADS IN MAUI
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Trump refuses to participate in the first Republican Debate, a plane carrying members of the Wagner Group is downed in the skies over Ukraine, and a vaccine mandate is introduced in schools across the U.S. Vladimir Putin may have been behind the downed plane, but could it have been an act of war?
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Donald Trump is out, announcing he will not participate in the first Republican debate on Wednesday,
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writing, the public knows who I am and what a successful presidency I had.
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He's going to counter-program it with his little Tucker Carlson video.
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He's going to get himself arrested the next day and be a big martyr and a crybaby.
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And just, you know, we'll talk about the debate for probably 15 seconds before he goes and,
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This operation is massive, involving the most people, multiple states, as well as numerous
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And perhaps for the first time, that fear belongs to one Donald J. Trump.
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Well, I'm going to Georgia and I'm feeling very, very good about it because I feel like
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I'm defending the rights of all Americans, as I did so many times as a United States attorney.
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I'm the same Rudy Giuliani that took down the mafia.
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Our BRICS leaders have pledged to reform the international order to create more development
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Are Chinese President Xi Jinping the most vocal on what he sees as an unfair global system
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It's about 60 schools in the U.S. have a vaccine mandate for their students.
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Rutgers requires students to get a vaccine exemption if they don't want to get a COVID vaccine.
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Rutgers said people have an option to disenroll if they don't want to get the COVID vaccine.
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The White House plans to renew its calls next month for Americans to get their COVID booster
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It comes as the CDC reports a spike in infections driven by the Aresa variant.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily, live from Washington,
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I'm going to throw now to video directly outside of Moscow, where an aircraft reportedly
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belonging to Prigozhin, the leader of the Wagner group, has been, well, let's just say taken
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All right, for our podcast listeners, what you're watching there is footage from from
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just outside Moscow, a field in a rural area after the plane had taken off.
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We were told there were two planes, one carrying the Wagner leader, another carrying other
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members of the group, one downed the other one, returned back to Moscow.
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And so supposedly the one that was taken down, the one that went down, because we should
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be careful about that, I suppose, did carry the leader of Wagner and other Wagner officials.
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Now, people say, well, could this be just an accident?
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When you're in the part of the world like that, when you're embroiled in a war, when a coup
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attempt has just been launched exactly two months ago to the day, to the day, the Crimean
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bridge attack, the drone strikes in Moscow that we've been seeing.
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Now, our very first thought should be that this plane was taken down.
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Could this have been Western intelligence agencies?
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This all remains to be seen because we are going to look at this data in full when we
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try to answer the question of who killed Yvigny Prigozhin, if in fact he was on board that
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But we're not going to lose sight of the signal here.
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We're not going to lose sight of the signal because we're also going to focus like a directed
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Now, I want to move back because I said we would focus on Hawaii, and there's a new report
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out of the Associated Press today that is so absolutely horrific that I'm just going to
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I'm just going to read excerpts from it to you.
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In deadly Maui fires, many had no warning and no way out.
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As flames tore through a West Maui neighborhood, car after car of fleeing residents headed for
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the only paved road out of town in a desperate race for safety.
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And car after car was turned back toward the rapidly spreading wildfire by a barricade blocking
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access to Highway 30, the only road out of Lahaina.
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One family swerved around the barricade and was safe in a nearby town 48 minutes later.
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Another drove their four-wheel drive car down a dirt road to escape.
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One man took a dirt road uphill climbing above the fire and watching as Lahaina burned.
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He later picked his way through the flames, smoke, and rubble to pull survivors to safety.
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One neighborhood near Lahaina Luna Road was filled with kids who were home alone with flames
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We needed 10 more minutes and we could have saved a lot of kids, he said, choking back tears,
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The family ventured out to a Cahooley mall recently looking for a moment of normalcy in
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They ran into a playmate of their son and he said, the kids just don't have a filter.
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So the son ran up and he was just telling our son, you know, this kid is dead, this kid
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And it's like all my son's friends that they come to our house every day and their parents
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were at work and they were sent home alone and nobody had a warning.
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I want to bring on now Ashley St. Clair from the Babylon Bee.
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She's also a great writer, a children's book author in her own right.
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And Ashley, you were in Hawaii, though not on Maui, right around the time of this.
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Walk me through what some of the what you were hearing on the ground and some of the other
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reporting that you've been putting through since this horrific tragedy began.
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Jack, first, I just want to say listening to that report is very difficult.
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It's heartbreaking to hear what's actually happening and to hear just how deadly this
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And that really is the feeling of many people in Hawaii.
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Many people online are saying that, you know, there should have been these warnings.
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You had reports saying, hey, we're seeing way more dead bodies out here than is being
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The people of Hawaii were obviously they have so many questions still about what's going on.
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And even as you read this report, right, I have questions about these barricades.
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Were these barricades put up because of the fire?
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How were they putting up barricades and not sending out sirens, not sending out warnings,
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not maybe getting water to the people quickly enough?
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It's terribly heartbreaking how deadly this incompetence has been in Hawaii and in Maui.
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You know, Ashley, and talk about a little bit about where you were, because, you know,
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I've never been to Maui, I have been to Oahu, and I was stationed on Guam a couple of times
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These volcanic islands, when you're on certain areas of them, when you're going through it
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from town to town in some of these spots that are out of the big cities, there's literally
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only one road because they just don't have roads that go up the mountains.
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They don't have roads that cut into the jungles.
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So there's only one road in and out of so many of these towns.
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And so for the government to blockade the road in the middle of a fire, because, and look,
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I understand they were trying to deal with the power lines, but the stories that we're
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And that means those images that I think we've all seen at this point, the cars that were
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burnt out, dogs that were flash carbonized from the high heat of this fire, extremely high
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That means that the people were stuck on the road like that.
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And we're hearing stories now of entire families that were caught in these cars and essentially
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Some people, of course, jumped out, jumped into the water.
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And it's amazing because, as you say, TikTok, other social media platforms, we've seen some
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of the videos, now we're piecing together the story of what actually happened.
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And the infrastructure in Hawaii, it's not built like these other places where there's
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so many people coming from different states and driving in.
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It's very much many of these places just have one lane roads or only two lane roads.
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So I can imagine how difficult and how terrifying it was for some of these people trying to get
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out of Maui, trying to get away from the fires during this time.
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So, Ashley, why isn't the government, I'm just going to cut to the chase.
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Why isn't the government telling us, and we're told the FBI later this week will give us an
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Why won't the governor of Hawaii, why won't the mayor of Maui just come clean?
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When I was on an aircraft carrier, you would have an entire muster sheet in a couple of
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So you can't tell me that almost two weeks later, we don't know the names and ages of
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You know, they refuse to release water for hours, for hours, because they have this woke
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You had the overlord of the water saying, and even the governor, in response to that,
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the most he said is that they maybe tipped a little too far in preserving water.
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Well, that's putting it mildly, to say the least.
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So they're covering their own incompetence here.
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The fact that the FBI is involved, the fact that we know that cadaver dogs were brought
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early on, and you can see the look on these faces.
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And I said this yesterday on the Eric Metaxas show.
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This is like Chernobyl in a sense that the government knows something and they are not
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They're not even sitting there trying to tell us that they're very upset.
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Tell me about what do you take of Biden's performance, if you can even call it that, when he visited?
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Yeah, his performance or lack thereof, you know, and there's all these reports of him
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That's what it looked like to me and thousands of other people online.
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It certainly looked like he dozed off during that.
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But it's incredible the stark contrast of the media, right?
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When Joe Rogan had COVID, you had CNN photoshopping him to be green so that he seemed sicker than
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And here we have Biden, who looks like he's dozing off, and they don't have anything to
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say about this man who should be in a nursing home.
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He should not be leading these people who are going through extreme loss and tragedy.
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I think at this point, we have to stop covering Biden as if there's not something mentally
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This guy's not, he doesn't even, I don't even know if he knows where he is.
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They put him on the plane, he wakes up, he gets off.
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And I'm just going to say, I would say it again, I'm doubling down.
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The guy looks asleep to me because his head goes down.
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Like when you fall asleep, like a kid who falls asleep in a classroom and then wakes up
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And you know what NBC said, Ashley, they said he was, he was, he was bowing his head
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We do a little thing in, you know, for the devout Catholics out there, you know, because
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Whenever you go to pray, look at, in our house, whenever you pass a graveyard, whenever
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an ambulance goes by with the siren on before we go to eat, before every single prayer
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It's the, it's so simple, you know, when you're on it, well, actually, when we take
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off an aircraft, that's something that we always do.
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And so for a guy who's supposed to be Mr. Devout Catholic, where's your sign of the
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Should we even treat Joe Biden as if he is a president at this point?
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I think we're the laughingstock of the world at this point, and as Michael Mallett says,
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it's going to be hysterical if he's the nominee for 2024, because Joe Biden's not going to
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No, I don't think we should take him seriously.
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And it's, again, it's a tragedy that we don't have a real leader to be leading during this
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They're talking about getting rid of the dollar.
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They're saying they want out, they want out of the freak show.
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They're taking their money and they're leaving the global East and the global South are combining
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Now, getting back to the news, though, we do have breaking news that Hawaii officials have
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now begun requesting DNA samples from relatives of people missing in the Maui fires.
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Thousands of people are missing from wildfires that swept through Maui, prompting officials
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to ask for DNA samples to go through the remains.
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The FBI's unaccounted list says there are 1,000 to 1,100 unidentified people missing as of
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That's up from 850 the day before with already 104 DNA samples collected from family members.
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Officials say they have little hope of identifying the remains.
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Nearly three quarters of the remains that have been tested DNA thus far have generated searchable
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DNA results, Julie French, who is assisting in identifying the remains, said during a press
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We need family members to come forward and donate their samples so that we can compare
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them to these DNA profiles that we've already generated from remains.
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And so, Ashley, horrific as the story is, my takeaway, and tell me if you agree, they're
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talking about they've identified remains, but they can't actually identify who the people
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Different DNA signatures, but they can't actually identify the people because in many of these
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No, and it's incredibly difficult to identify someone after a fire, but it's a shame, Jack.
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It's a shame that, you know, of course, the Post Millennial is reporting on this, but this
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should be all over every outlet, and it's just not.
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Instead, I received a push notification from the New York Times on how a racist Instagram
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The media doesn't care, and in fact, there's a media blackout, or at least there was in
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Maui, and they just don't seem to care about one of the biggest tragedies.
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We have a thousand missing people, a thousand people who can't be identified, and they don't
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Because I can certainly remember when the Puerto Rico hurricane took place, when I think it
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was Trump's first year in office, or towards the end of his beginning of his second year
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He was raked over the coals for the way that he was throwing paper towels out.
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He was there immediately throwing out supplies, handing out supplies.
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I certainly remember the way they treated George Bush in the aftermath of Katrina, yet
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Media just doesn't seem to care, which, oh, by the way, just popped in my head that during
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Katrina, you had a governor, or a mayor down there, rather, Mayor Ray Nagin, who actually
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refused to allow school buses to be let out of this basic area.
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This was on their contingency plans for a hurricane.
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They had plenty of time knowing that this thing was coming.
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They didn't utilize school buses to evacuate people from the area.
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That's one of the things that the government clearly could have done.
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We later found out there was a ton of corruption.
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Ashley, do you think we're going to uncover things like this as we peel back the layers
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I sure hope we uncover these things, because it's evident that there was gross incompetence.
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And the media is nothing more than an arm of the Democratic Party at this point.
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A lot of these deaths could have been avoided had we not had Democratic leaders who were
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pushing woke policies about preserving water and, you know, revering water here.
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Not, you know, this is all could have been avoidable.
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And so when you were there as well, what was the sense on the ground that you were hearing?
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You were obviously there on vacation, had no idea that this was coming.
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Claire is part of the Chinese directed energy operation against Hawaii.
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Even the people of Hawaii and I was on a different island, but nobody really had answers.
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They were sitting there, as I said before, saying there's way more dead bodies than they're
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There's a lot of reports coming out about land grabs, about people getting offers that
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are way below the valuation for their properties.
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And I really hope that the people of Maui don't just take these investors' money or whatever's
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going on here out of a place of desperation, because it seems there are, in most forms of
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tragedy, people who are going to come in and try to take advantage.
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These raiders, they're going into parts of Ukraine as well.
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They're targeting children in Ukraine as they come out of the war-torn area.
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We covered a lot of this with Tim Ballard from Sound of Freedom and others.
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But, Ashley, when it comes to us as a country, what does it say that we are so focused on,
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and we covered at the top of the story, this aircraft downing outside of Moscow, potentially
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this mercenary leader from Russia, was taken out.
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We're told that we have to send hundreds of billions of dollars.
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We're going to be talking about, there's an argument about foreign aid, I'm sure, to Israel
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that's going to come up between Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswamy.
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Yet, do you see any of these political leaders in the United States really focused on any
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of these issues that are actually facing directly actual Americans when you're talking about
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people who were incinerated with their entire family while the government stopped the road
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And this is why, you know, Oliver, Anthony, Stong, Richmond, North of Richmond was so popular
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because the politicians don't really speak for us anymore.
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And even what they're doing by not covering this all over the media, it is horrific because
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they're not even giving the people an opportunity.
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They're not even putting out messages about how we as people, as a collective, as communities
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We're told, you know, we're told, wear your next, you know, get your booster, wear your
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And again, all of the mask mandates are coming back because people have the sniffles, bad case
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I really think everyone needs to reject this absurdity entirely.
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Look, you might not be able to go to your favorite restaurant.
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This is why they're able to do it again, because they saw how quickly people were like,
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And people just wore the masks and complied so that they could do everyday things.
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So the same government that will let your family burn to death in a car is going to arrest you
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because you want to eat a meal without a mask on when you're sitting on an airplane?
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I remember when I'm coming to LaGuardia at the peak of COVID, and they kept asking for
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The National Guard would run after me, and I'd say, no, thank you.
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So really, people think that they have a lot more power than they do, but you don't have
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We talk so much about Antifa tearing down the statues of our founding fathers, but so
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many of us don't even have a quarter of the coconuts that our founding fathers did.
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We don't want to give up any of our comforts, any of our luxuries to take a stand.
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Look, the founding fathers, Ben Franklin, had the great quote, either we hang together or
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And by the way, whatever the first company is that comes out and says they're going to
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mandate this, whether it's Target, whether it's Walmart, whatever it is, we need to crush
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We need to absolutely target that company and destroy their stock, destroy their name.
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We're going to do everything possible under the sun to take that company off the board.
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You know, Uber is going to be one of the big ones of this.
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Are you if an Uber comes out and says you can't get it?
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Remember, they made you take a picture of yourself with the mask on.
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I'm not using Uber anyways for a variety of different reasons.
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But what I can say is, look, if you're online, you're posting about me, you know, you're not
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And then all of a sudden he was photographed with a Bud Light.
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We will find out if you're actually masking up to go see your favorite movie.
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And I got to say, just, no, let's focus on signal, not noise.
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The people of Maui deserve 100% accountability for what happened, what went wrong.
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And to the officials that blocked those roads, to the people who blocked the water, to the
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people who were not switching the energy grid and not maintaining the energy grid because
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they forced it to go green, they should all be in jail as far as I'm concerned.
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What I will say, too, instead of shouting myself out, what I'm going to do is as soon as we
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end here, I'm going to pin a post to the top of my X profile.
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And this is a young girl who's going, boots on the ground, helping people in Maui who need
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So let's empower the people on the ground, the people who live there.
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So I'll pin that to the top of my X profile at St. Clair Ashley.
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Stay tuned for a little preview of what to look for tonight in the debates when we come
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I'm trying to listen to the new human events with Jack Posobiec.
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All right, Jack Posobiec back here live, Washington, D.C.
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Now, while we've got assassinations in Moscow, we've got wildfires, a thousand missing, the
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We've also got a primary season and a presidential election, which really, in many ways, kicks
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off tonight with the first official debate of the evening, the debate of the season.
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It'll be coming out later tonight around 9 p.m.
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We know that President Trump, the front runner, will not be attending.
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And so to kind of handicap the race for us, tell us what to look for tonight.
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He is a longtime Republican strategist, as well as a formerly advisor to Senator Chuck
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Grassley, a guy who knows Iowa in and out, as well as knows the primary electorate in
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So tell me what, and just that basically, what's the handicap?
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Obviously, none of them have really had any breakout moment until this point in the debate.
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So to me, I guess the sense is, is this going to be a free-for-all battle royale where everybody's
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Or do you think any of them are able to have a moment on this stage that actually, which
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they're all hoping for, I'm sure, springboards them into direct contention with Donald Trump?
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Yeah, I would say, I mean, the elephant that's technically not in the room is Donald Trump,
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He's essentially dominated this entire primary here.
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He's winning in most polls by 30, 40, sometimes 50 points.
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And so that's obviously going to suck up a lot of oxygen in the room.
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I think there'll still be questions about him, even though he won't be there.
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The question is, obviously, in a primary like 2016 or 2012 or 2008, where there's a battle
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and it's a much closer battle where you're talking about, you know, the front runners
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at 20 percent, second place is at 13 percent, something like this matters here.
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But because Trump's at 50, 60 percent, it's just really tough for these candidates to break
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I would watch Ron DeSantis really has been slipping in the polls, so he needs to have a
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He's going to have to fend off Vivek, obviously, who's been surging in the polls.
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He's going to have to potentially fend off Chris Christie, who's known to come after
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We've saw him effectively do that in the New Hampshire debate in 2016.
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And then you've got people like, you know, this never Trump lane is just so small, Jack,
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You've got Pence, Asa Hutchinson, Christie's in that lane.
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And no one has really been able to show even Vivek DeSantis that they've been able to pull
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Vivek has really pulled from Ron DeSantis here.
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It's going to be a big moment for these guys because they're going to have 15, 20 million
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And so obviously having a big moment here is going to matter.
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But Donald Trump is certainly going to loom large over the debate.
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What do you make of this campaign right now that I've noticed it seems like, and I'm sure
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The cannon salvos popping off on Vivek Ramaswamy, bringing up things, you know, that's something
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I even brought up when he when he first announced that he's he's addressed in many ways and other
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ways people are bringing up, oh, is he tied to Soros?
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But it really seems that just in this past week that suddenly there's been a huge circling
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I mean, he went from somebody that, you know, nobody really even knew he was.
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He was pulling at zero percent when he entered the race.
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I think a lot of people thought it was a joke to maybe sell books when he got in the race.
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And he's clearly resonated with some voters here.
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But yeah, there it shows you when you rise in the polls here, you start to take fire.
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You know, you've seen this in 2016 when Marco Rubio started to surge a little bit.
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So I think it just shows that he's really having a moment here and he's chipping away
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And he's done it in a way, I think you've seen here, in a way that has not attacked Donald
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Most folks think that that's the strategy to apparently gain voters.
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But when he's the most popular figure in the Republican Party, it's hard to attack him.
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Most voters in an NBC poll said that the thing that turns them off the most is when they
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And I think the firepower is out for him because he's having a moment right now.
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We'll see how he does this really in the debate, because that's going to obviously be a big
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Now, when you're looking at at the debates and really just the race in general, how is
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it that a guy named Vivek Ramaswamy, who's never set foot in politics ever before, he's
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He posts videos of himself playing tennis shirtless when he's in the midst of all this controversy
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and he's doing burpees, I guess, with his wife.
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And you got a guy like that who's actually in contention with a second term governor, a
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guy who's served in the military as well as it.
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And by the way, and pretty much every poll that I've seen is beating a former vice president
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Yeah, I think a lot of these guys are missing the moment, right?
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This is a party that is dominated by not only Trump, but his policies, right?
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Everybody who's talking about building the wall, everybody who's talking about illegal
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immigration, everybody who's talking about going after big tech, everybody who's talking
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These were ideas that Republican candidates in 2012 and even going into 2016 were not talking
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So those are things I think that Vivek has tapped into.
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I think he's also been willing to do interviews with hostile media.
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He's been willing to go out there and address voters.
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And he's been able to say a lot of things that voters agree with.
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I mean, Pence launched his entire campaign on January 6th.
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I mean, it's apparently he didn't pay attention to the Wyoming primary, where Liz Cheney was
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essentially erased by, what, 50 points in that primary.
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So running on that Adam Kinzinger, Liz Cheney, Mitt Romney lane just doesn't exist anymore.
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So people who think they can do that, like Christie, like Pence, there's just really not
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an appetite for those folks in the Republican base right now.
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So I think Vivek has been smart to talk about the issues that Republican voters care about
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Obviously, a lot of knives are going to be out for him.
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Yeah, something I think also that could potentially be a question to look for tonight is that more
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so than the bigger, the larger element of the room of Trump not being there is the fact
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that no one in this race has articulately, or at least to my knowledge, explained how
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And we've heard these leaks saying that, oh, the indictments will come.
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The indictments will destroy Trump's standing with the primary.
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And yet poll after poll shows not only have the indictments solidified his lead in the primary,
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but actually, as the indictments have become more and more ridiculous as they've continued,
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he's actually trending to neck and neck with Biden and national polls that we never saw levels
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So do you think that any of these candidates will ever be able to actually articulate how
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Well, again, it goes back to like he is a very unstoppable force right now in the primary.
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And you've seen over the years, any Republican who has successfully taken on Donald Trump,
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there is a graveyard of politicians who have taken on Donald Trump, right?
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From primary races to the presidential in 2016, you're even seeing this.
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Ron DeSantis went from a very popular governor as a rising star to someone who's essentially
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just been beaten over and over again by Donald Trump in this primary.
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I do think it's going to be tough for them to communicate that.
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And now, I think an interesting thing, Jack, you point out is the indictments.
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You know, it's like 2016, 2017, all over again.
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2018, the walls are closing in on Trump with Russia, the hoax we know there.
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Donald Trump just survives these things over and over again.
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And that really becomes even more popular because of him.
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New York Times had a poll that came out recently.
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It showed Biden and Trump neck and neck, 43, 43, which means Trump is probably up even more.
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As you and I know, Trump outperforms a lot of these polls.
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But in there, I found something very interesting.
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Republican voters, by a 30-point margin, believe Donald Trump is the best candidate to defeat
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Not only, again, does he match up strongly with Joe Biden in these polls, but if you dig into
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the numbers, Donald Trump against Joe Biden, non-white voters, I think is a really
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interesting trend that's going towards Donald Trump.
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Obama in 2012 won non-white voters by, I think it was about 67 points.
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And right now, he's only leading Trump by 16 points.
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The second part of it is, if you look at the Rust Belt states, the key states to win the
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presidency, really, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, again, very key states that you
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Donald Trump is beating Joe Biden in a recent Rust Belt poll by seven points.
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So, again, Trump's electability is not some talking point.
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There is hardcore data to prove that he is not only dominating this GOP primary, but is
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And so, again, it's just going to be very tough for these candidates to make that case
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And we see the energy to just trust Donald Trump in this primary.
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But there's something that I keep articulating and driving home to folks.
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And that's when we're talking about the general election, that you have to have a national
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You cannot be a candidate that only appeals to one area of the country.
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So a candidate that is at full appeal in the Sun Belt or the Bible Belt is not the same
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type of candidate that is going to play in the Rust Belt.
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And you have to have the ability to be, I sort of made a joke yesterday, but you got to
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And if you go all in on one of these regions, they may love you and you can run up the score
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there, but you're not going to have the broad-based appeal.
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I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
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He's a Republican strategist, former advisor to Grassley.
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Now, Garrett, you were walking through in the last segment, you made a point that you
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said that Trump is up with the Rust Belt against Biden.
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How do the other candidates fare against Biden with some of these areas?
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Because we've seen that with the Republican map right now, you need to win at least one
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Ohio was an Obama state, but you definitely need at least Wisconsin or Michigan.
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Pennsylvania, my home state, it's tantalizing, but sometimes a little bit out of grasp.
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And probably, I think, Wisconsin is closest than you have in the Sun Belt, Georgia and Arizona,
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And that's really the only question that I have.
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Who is the candidate that is most likely to win?
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Again, the Rust Belt poll I was pointing out, Fox and Friends First did a recent segment
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And I thought it was really interesting because, again, DeSantis is losing by three to Biden
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We've talked about Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.
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Another thing I said, you see a lot of these candidates, Nikki Haley, DeSantis particularly,
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That they're the best candidate to beat Joe Biden.
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In a recent Fox News poll, Donald Trump is the only one in the margin of error.
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Haley, Scott, DeSantis, they're losing by five, six, seven points in those polls and
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And so, again, these arguments are just not proven by data.
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Donald Trump is not only the strongest on the issues, the most popular in our party right
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now, but again, head-to-head with Joe Biden, he matches up the most strongly.
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Because it's the same kind of narrative I remember hearing from like Rubio, from Romney, from
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But, you know, when you go around in the suburbs, especially suburban moms, and, you know, I see
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it's, you see the, you know, hate has no home here.
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He appeals to this, you know, the Oliver Anthony's out there, the NASCAR dad's out there.
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He doesn't care about the rich man north of Richmond.
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He's the kind of guy that wants to go for that vote.
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Appalachia, the Piedmont, these types that are absolutely swingable in the Rust Belt.
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And you're seeing Trump builds, he builds a different coalition.
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Again, you're seeing Hispanic voters flock to him.
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Donald Trump has really made this populist movement come home to him and really built that
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I also think suburban moms, it's very interesting when you have, you know, issues to deal with
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transgenderism in school right now being pushed on their kids, when you have high inflation
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with, you know, on groceries, on gas, mortgage rates are up, more people are in credit card
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More people are drawing from their 401ks than they ever have.
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And if you compare the Trump economy to the Biden economy, we can actually look at that.
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We can look at how good the economy was and how good people's finances were under Donald
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Trump, we can look at even just across the globe.
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Border crossings were down compared to where they are now.
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And so the record that Joe Biden has compared to Donald Trump, we can actually compare it.
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Donald Trump made promises during his four years as president.
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He kept those promises from appointing Supreme Court justices to getting illegal immigration
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under control, to building the economy, to trying to solve international crisis.
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And so we can actually compare that to Joe Biden's record, which is weak, which has ruined
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And so, again, when we compare those two in the suburbs, even, I think Donald Trump will
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And we're hearing, of course, that in, you know, just looking ahead at the debate, there's
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a new piece out by Shane Goldmacher, Ron DeSantis, livid on the Super PAC memo falling
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out tonight, and really that his mission, his top line, is that he must prove that he
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Do you really think that DeSantis has a chance left, or is tonight his last stand?
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Well, I think we've seen him moving into Jeb Bush, Scott Walker territory, right?
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They had a Super PAC, Jeb specifically with, you know, $90 million, $100 million.
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They had a lot of the media talking about them, a lot of energy there.
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I just do not think, I think when you're Ron DeSantis, you were talking about competing
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Now you're talking about making sure Vivek, who is an unknown name, you know, that he can
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hold him off, and there's polls that are showing that Vivek is beating him.
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So, again, I think Ron DeSantis, he was a pretty good governor.
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He's a presidential candidate against Donald Trump.
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He's, again, playing probably single-A or double-A ball at best, and Donald Trump's
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in the major leagues in this situation politically here.
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So I think Ron's, you know, he's on life support with this campaign here, and he's going
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to have to have a big debate here and show that it is a two-person race.
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But right now, it's really not even a two-person race.
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And this has been a consistent theme for the last two or three months, really, even longer
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Then if you look at the early states, South Carolina, New Hampshire, he is Iowa as well.
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He's dominating 25, 30 points in those states that are supposed to be winnable states to
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So, again, I think it's going to be really tough for Ron DeSantis or anyone to break through
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And just like any of these players, if you know anything about, you know, Major League
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Baseball, you take one of these players, you bring up some, sometimes, you know, you go
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But you bring these guys up to the majors too early, and even if they've, you know, there's
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always, every year, the scouts find there's that one guy, right?
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There's that one prospect who, you know, his statistics are great.
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But then he goes up to the majors, and it's like, the lights are too bright.
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The stress is too high, and something just breaks.
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And then you take a guy like that, and you think, okay, do we move them back to the minors?
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But then even when you do, that has a psychological impact.
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That has an impact on your energy, on your spirit.
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And unfortunately, for many of these players, it breaks what could have been otherwise an
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Again, I think Ron did a good job during Florida, during lockdowns.
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But again, I think he just missed the mark here that this is a party that is still dominated
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Not many other people can get, you know, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,000 people in the arena.
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There's really no other candidate that can do that.
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Joe Biden certainly can't do it, and nobody in this Republican primary is coming close to
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And so, again, I think he's missed the moment here.
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And I think this is a time with the indictments happening against President Trump, the weaponization
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It is a time for Republicans to hopefully unite around Donald Trump, because we need to defeat
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Joe Biden and take our country back at this point.
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These candidates, you want to do something that's right for the country, drop out tonight
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Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay it short.