Former President Donald Trump is expected to turn himself into the Fulton County Jail this morning, where he will be charged with conspiracy to commit election fraud and conspiracy to obstruct justice. If convicted, Trump will be the first sitting president to be tried for an election crime.
00:11:34.380It's about setting the stage for when President Trump wins.
00:11:37.780They know, I believe they know he will win, is for them to be able to send out Antifa, send out BLM into the streets, and to continue the civil war that they started in the first President Trump presidency.
00:12:14.720Well, they don't call it Hotlanta for no reason, Jack.
00:12:17.240I think that the temperatures are rising, and honestly, it is friendly territory for Trumpers and MAGA in Georgia, right?
00:12:25.460And so I think you're going to see some energy there, and I think that the law enforcement in that area are getting ready for what they think is going to be a huge support, huge turnout for the President, for Donald Trump.
00:12:40.120And they should be worried, honestly, not because there's going to be any violence or anything like that,
00:12:46.280but because it is very clear to people in the MAGA movement, people in America, normal Americans everywhere, that this is an egregious political persecution, not prosecution, right?
00:12:59.480And so I think that Americans everywhere are able to see clearly that Phony Willis, right, has been abusing the RICO mechanisms her whole career,
00:13:12.580and now she's trying to cap her activist career with an indictment of Donald Trump.
00:13:21.840And so I think it's clear as day that it's a political persecution, and instead of politically persecuting Donald Trump, you know, Phony Willis should be, you know, celebrating and having fun in Hotlanta's historic club scene, you know, partying to party monster by the weekend or something like that.
00:13:41.000But she is way out of her league here. This is the most egregious and silly indictment out of all the indictments that President Trump has been slapped with.
00:13:49.400And I think that, again, there is no hiding the brazen, heavy-handed nature of the regime as it speaks and acts through people like Phony Willis.
00:14:01.640And I think that Americans are just, they're tired of it. And so they should, the regime should be expecting pushback.
00:14:08.600I think that Georgia is going to expect pushback.
00:14:12.780Well, and Vish, I said in the opening of the show today that when you look at this level, we do have a regime.
00:14:19.860We are under a regime occupation. We're living through an era of regime politics.
00:14:24.980I've been saying this since the installation of Joe Biden, saying for years at Turning Point Events and other events where I've spoken.
00:14:30.120And yet it feels like these other candidates aren't even in the same conversation.
00:14:35.460What is your sense of them holding this debate as if this isn't going on today?
00:14:40.600Well, I think it's very, very clear that everybody on that stage, save for Vivek, maybe, do not.
00:14:47.100They want Donald Trump in the past, right? They want to forget about him, move on.
00:14:53.060They want to create the meme that Donald Trump is, you know, the GOP of the past or something.
00:15:00.120And that is, it's disgusting, to be quite honest. None of those people would be even,
00:15:05.680oh, well, so many of those people wouldn't even be up there if it wasn't for Donald Trump.
00:15:09.180And this is how they repay him? By going up on stage and debating for his job?
00:15:14.320No. This is disgusting. And I think that, obviously, there's donor pressures that are happening.
00:15:20.040I think that a lot of these guys are, have an outdated mentality on what politics in America is today.
00:15:28.420And so, you know, date the light, we say it all the time, but, you know, rinse, rinse, wash, rinse, repeat.
00:15:34.880You know, you have to know what time it is, what time it is right now.
00:15:38.660The regime is coming for us. The regime is coming for our children.
00:15:43.220You know, people are always worried about whether, you know, the $30 trillion in debt that we have, you know, who's going to pay that off?
00:15:51.080And we say, you know, it's our kids, our grandkids and all these things.
00:15:53.700But think about also our rights, our freedom, our sovereignty, our ability to express freely, you know, our thoughts, our words, and being able to associate with whoever we want.
00:16:07.780These are all the things that are under attack that might be even more precious than the material things that we stand to lose with this incompetent and runaway regime.
00:16:17.220Our rights, our freedoms, our sovereignty is all at stake. And all of this is defined in this flashpoint under the indictment with Donald Trump and other Republicans, any Republican in the future trying to run for office, big or small, has to know what time it is.
00:16:36.020And those are the people that we're looking for. Those are the people that we're fighting with. And those are the people that we're going to help elect into office.
00:16:42.900Yeah, man, you know, Vish, I saw Chris Christie up there and this guy, I'm like, Chris Christie, this dude's running as a Fed.
00:16:48.980He's going right back to his Fed ways, talking about how he's the top cop, talking about how he's a prosecutor.
00:16:54.900Look, that's exactly, he is angling, I'm convinced now, he is angling for a position as attorney general for one of these anti-Trump candidates, or dare I say it, attorney general under a Democrat.
00:17:07.700Last minute, Vish Burrow, what do you think?
00:17:09.020Well, I think that if you want to consider Chris Christie a top cop, just look at the last guy that Chris Christie helped put into a top cop-like position, like Christopher Wray of the Trenton Mafia.
00:17:24.760If Christopher Wray is an example of the kind of top cop that Chris Christie would be, I think we are in big, big trouble, and it's bigger than Chris Christie's waistline, I promise.
00:17:35.300Vish, where can people go to follow you, where can they go to get all the spicy takes?
00:17:41.200You can follow me on Twitter, at Vish Burrow, that's mainly where you can find me, Truth Social, at Vish, and yeah, follow me, all my spicy takes, and Jack, thank you so much for having me on, love your show, man, love the work you do, you're great.
00:21:27.200I think he had a lot of bizarre facial tics that may be superficial.
00:21:31.700But, again, things are so scripted and so rehearsed in these debates that you have to look to these micro-tells or these sort of honest signals to get any meaningful information about people.
00:21:45.620And sometimes, you know, it's the most important type of information, like indecision that you mentioned.
00:21:51.140And I think Vivek is another big story of this debate.
00:21:55.580He's the only person on stage with anything remotely interesting to say or who represents anything remotely interesting.
00:22:02.220He's sort of the millennial, tech-inflected, meritocratic answer to the system that we have now, which there could be many worse answers.
00:22:16.400And he's testing out something fairly new, I think, in politics that people find refreshing.
00:22:25.360It's kind of fun to see him, fun to watch him enjoying himself.
00:22:29.220And other than Vivek, everything was so stale, so boring, so rehearsed, and such a poignant reminder of what politics was like before Trump and what politics will look like after Trump.
00:22:45.520And hopefully after Trump, we're going to have, you know, some more years, another term with him.
00:22:50.340But there will, unfortunately, be an after Trump, and this is a glimpse to the future of what that's going to look like.
00:22:58.280And I don't think it's an accident that Vivek, who comparatively is the most interesting thing on the stage, is the guy who comes from outside of the GOP apparatus, just like Trump did.
00:23:10.740The GOP apparatus cultivates the boring mediocrity as you could possibly imagine.
00:23:17.080It's almost Nietzschean in the sense that Nietzsche, of course, famously talked about the overman, but he also talked about the last man.
00:23:27.600And this, this grasp for mediocrity, this grasp for safety and security and the community and the confines of essentially nothing, no self-actualization whatsoever.
00:23:40.740Darren, you had a series of tweets referring to cattle slop last night.
00:23:46.900Well, we should go tweet by tweet, but generally speaking, it's exactly the same of kind of not just intellectually, but spiritually soporific content that's designed to just keep people in a state of political and mental and cultural stupor.
00:24:09.700It's the kind of content that you see fed out and doled out on Fox News routinely.
00:24:17.080And it's the kind of bromides that you hear in debates.
00:24:20.380Again, it's just not that there's anything wrong with the Constitution.
00:24:25.460But when you have another empty suit, who has never taken any real risks in his life, who has never challenged the system in any meaningful way, say, I'm going to defend the Constitution.
00:24:40.120Or say, I'm going to cut federal spending by X percent.
00:24:44.780This kind of boring stuff that's meant to just lead a crowd of zombies, that's cattle slop.
00:24:57.820It's regressing back to the mean of empty, boring bromides that have defined the rhetoric of Republican politics for so long up until Trump.
00:25:12.220That's my best characterization of what cattle slop is.
00:25:18.080If I wanted to be a little bit meaner, I would say cattle slop is your typical hour with Sean Hannity.
00:25:25.400I couldn't agree more, you know, and even these platitudes of, oh, it's the Bidens.
00:25:47.500It's going to be just right around the corner.
00:25:49.620And first it was, remember, Jeff Sessions was going to swing in from the rafters.
00:25:53.800And then it was going to be the secret Durham, Durham's going to come in.
00:25:58.180And then finally Barr was brought in and none of it came to pass.
00:26:02.460Meanwhile, so many years were squandered away rather than fighting for immigration, rather than fighting to do something about the cartels fighting against various implements of America's deep state.
00:26:17.520Instead, we're left with these goose chases, we're left with these constant strings of inanities rather than solving actual policy questions.
00:26:28.260And I think that's why the regime has targeted Trump the way that they have, because he is the only one that fundamentally asks questions about trade, foreign policy, and immigration.
00:26:39.360As far as I can tell, the other candidates don't, with the exception of Vivek, who is at least trying out different things.
00:26:45.820And I appreciate that he's willing to go after certain Republican shibboleths, like foreign aid in some instances, like, and clearly, what did you think of his vote or his statement on Ukraine, which I think was even far further than Trump is going on it, really?
00:27:00.260I mean, I think it was entirely sensible, and it was something that is much needed as part of the discourse in a presidential debate.
00:27:09.220And again, it's something that wouldn't have been there had it not been for Vivek, the only person on stage who wasn't cultivated under the auspices of institutional Republicanism, which is, you know, where any kind of bit of originality or charisma goes to die.
00:27:27.120So I think we need these as part of the conversation. Vivek is encouraging. It's a far cry from Trump. It's just a different phenomenon entirely.
00:27:41.640And I fear it's just a once in a generation type thing, and we're not going to see anything like Trump after Trump goes.
00:27:48.520But that's the way it is. At least we could have Vivek. It's something that's new and refreshing, because it's just hard to listen to these people like Nikki Haley, like Mike Pence.
00:28:00.760We've just seen this over and over and over and over, and we know that it signifies nothing.
00:28:06.620Well, and I think there is a huge generational divide here, and that's something that you're seeing Pence tap into, though perhaps incorrectly when he says, oh, you were in grade school when 9-11 happened.
00:28:23.260I was on Capitol Hill. Yeah, that was 22 years ago. That makes you sound old, right?
00:28:29.180That's like, you know, coming up in the 2000s, talking about the Vietnam War, and it's nothing against that.
00:28:35.460But it's also a situation where they seem to have not realized that the country has shifted under their feet since then,
00:28:43.000and economic issues right now really are the massive driver of voter turnout and the massive driver of our politics.
00:28:51.640Because when people can't afford to put food on their table or food in the collection plate, those are the issues that they're going to vote on, not who's in control of the Donbass.
00:29:03.440Exactly. And, you know, I think it's always kind of been that way.
00:29:07.380I think foreign policy has always sort of been a niche issue. It's always been about the economy, and Trump understands this, and it's reflected in his messaging.
00:29:18.160I think to a degree, you know, Vivek understands this as well, but, you know, the basic conditions of life, the basic conditions of livelihood, of maintaining a first-world lifestyle,
00:29:30.720these are all under existential threat in the United States, so it would have been nice to ask one question from the moderators about, okay,
00:29:46.960what are we going to do in response to the fact that the Department of Justice is entirely weaponized against GOP politically?
00:29:53.880What's your answer to that? Would have been nice to have one question like that, but again, it sounded so much like these old GOP debates that you'd hear, you know, in the early 2000s.
00:30:06.980Darren, we are coming up on the break here. Darren, thank you so much for your time today. Where can people go to follow the latest at Revolver?
00:30:15.280Revolver.news, as always, and we're on Twitter, at Darren J. Beattie, and that's where you go.
00:30:25.620Make sure you go to follow Revolver, because I want to find out more about the fence cutter. We're going to learn a lot about the fence cutter, and Darren Beattie is hot on the trail.
00:30:36.140Stay tuned. We go back to Ben Berquam. We go back to Fulton County. Libby Emmons will be joining us. Human Events continues.
00:30:42.700It's getting hot in Hotlanta. President Trump, his mugshot, will be coming soon.
00:30:51.700I hear about the boring people at your office. I'm trying to listen to the new human events with Jack Posobiec.
00:31:00.500All right, Jack Posobiec, back here. You're looking now at a live shot of the Fulton County Jailhouse, where President Trump will be arriving.
00:31:09.700I'm told, by the way, that he plans to take off from New Jersey around 6 p.m. to land in Atlanta there about 7, 7.30 p.m. Eastern.
00:31:22.260And so that means we're just about five hours away from his arrival. It'll be later this evening.
00:31:29.340President Trump, of course, scheduling his appearance, his date with destiny, in prime time.
00:31:35.540I want to bring on now Libby Emmons, the editor-in-chief of humanevents.com and the Post Millennial.
00:31:41.560Libby, it's been a minute. How are you?
00:31:46.580What is your take on the debate last night? I know you and I were talking on the phone late last night, early this morning.
00:31:53.700Give us your sense. And I ask this as someone who comes to this, who's, you know, you're not necessarily a dyed-in-the-wool Trump supporter.
00:32:01.340I do consider you to be more objective on this. What was your sense? Did DeSantis do what he needed to do to solidify his position as the top alternative to Trump?
00:32:14.180No, he did not. He did not do that. And I think that that was shockingly clear. He was part of the background.
00:32:20.340The person who really stepped into the limelight and was able to shine was Vivek Ramaswamy, who stepped out with confidence.
00:32:28.520He knew exactly what he was talking about. He knew what he wanted to say.
00:32:31.580He said it and he got done exactly, I believe, what he intended to do.
00:32:37.100Everyone else just fell into the background next to his decisive takes and, you know, very confident stance.
00:32:46.100DeSantis was running on his record. He's got a great record in Florida. We all know that. We've all seen that.
00:32:54.080But again, he did not seem particularly decisive. There was a moment when it was, you know, the moderators did a lot of raise your hand if you support this or that.
00:33:04.520And there was a moment where DeSantis looked around to see who else was raising their hand before he put his hand up.
00:33:14.340And that's it. That's a moment right there. And he looks just incredibly weak for doing that.
00:33:19.720Why would you look around to see what other people are doing before you know what you're going to do?
00:33:23.760That's certainly not something that we should be seeing from a man who wants to be the leader of the United States and, in essence, the free world, as we're so used to saying.
00:33:33.200Well, I think that's exactly right, because, look, these are the kind of moments that define you.
00:33:40.740Everybody remembers in 2015 when they asked, are there any people on the stage who will not support the eventual nominee?
00:33:50.020And Donald Trump was the only man who raised his hand.
00:33:53.900And so you can say this is a gotcha question. You can say it's a gotcha moment.
00:33:57.620I do think that Fox was a little bit too CNN-ish in their questioning.
00:34:03.040But at the same time, you have to follow – you agreed to do the debate, dude.
00:34:07.760You agreed to do the debate. So if you're going to be there, you have to be under their rules.
00:34:12.420That's the system. Raise your hand or not.
00:34:15.040And I think that juxtaposition of the decisiveness of Vivek versus the indecisiveness of Ron DeSantis is going to be absolutely devastating for Ron DeSantis.
00:34:29.320And I agree. I thought about it last night.
00:34:32.020I tweeted this, that I think you're going to see Vivek Ramaswamy see an absolute spike in the polls after this.
00:34:54.980I think he also knows how important Trump supporters and Trump voters are to any GOP nominee.
00:35:03.960And he goes out there and says that he supports Trump.
00:35:07.100He speaks directly against the weaponization of the DOJ that has been levied at not only Trump, but Trump supporters, which we have seen in Michigan with the arrest of the electors, which I believe Tony Evers wants to do in Wisconsin as well.
00:35:22.040Which we have seen with the prosecution of the little guy at Mar-a-Lago, who, you know, the maintenance guys and the IT guy and this kind of thing.
00:35:31.800So I appreciate that Vivek has been coming out very strongly supporting Trump and in so doing saying that he is a supporter of Trump voters, which is important.
00:35:43.080I know that DeSantis has come under fire for saying unkind things about Trump voters and voters, and I think that that's a real mistake.
00:35:52.380Trump voters make up a huge part of the voting base of this party, and it's important to embrace them.
00:35:58.600Also, Vivek has a little bit more to say about, you know, again.
00:36:21.860You mean like a guy who's looking around on stage to see whether or not he should raise his hand, like that kind of listless vessel?
00:36:28.380Yeah, I'd really hate to be in front of millions of people and have a moment like that, especially if I were a sitting governor with hundreds of millions of dollars backing me that I'm setting on fire all around the country.
00:36:43.660I'd really hate to have a moment where I looked like a listless vessel.
00:36:52.140You know, that brings up another point, which is that Ron DeSantis, in saying those things about Trump supporters, is really just repeating what so many in corporate media and coastal elites like to say about the rest of the country, which is that they like to say that Americans are stupid.
00:37:15.300They are critical thinkers, and it's time to stop deriding all of these people out in the rest of the country just because you think you're better than them.
00:37:23.720And I think that the DeSantis campaign has shown time and again that they think they're better than the rest of America.
00:37:29.200And that's not really something that I'm in favor of, for sure.
00:37:37.800What did you think about this dust-up between Pence and Ramaswamy vis-a-vis military aid to Ukraine, our commitment to NATO, the war in Ukraine?
00:37:48.940What side of that did you come down on?
00:37:51.760Well, I'm a very anti-war person, and I'm even more anti-war now that my son is 13, and he's got only five years before he has to register for Selective Service.
00:38:00.080And I have no interest in seeing him get carted off to Europe to die in the battlefields to protect the border of some country that has nothing to do with us, especially while our borders are totally overrun.
00:38:10.780New York City is getting totally destroyed, decimated by this massive influx of illegal immigration, and I think that it's really a travesty.
00:38:18.380I appreciated what Vivek was saying about not participating further in a war in Ukraine, and I thought that Pence just looks like a fool going out there and saying that if we don't—one thing that he said was that if we don't stop Putin now, U.S. armed forces would have to go over there and fight.
00:38:36.900And we already have U.S. armed services in Ukraine.
00:38:42.040We have, you know, special services, special forces, rather, stationed in the embassy there.
00:38:49.340We have Americans giving Ukrainian military people instructions on how to use the weapons that we keep sending, the billions and billions of dollars of weapons that we keep sending.
00:38:59.960We have them training Ukrainian pilots to fly our fighter jets, which, if anyone recalls, Biden promised to not do, saying that that would lead to World War III.
00:39:10.820So you have Biden out there dragging us to World War III, and you have Pence, who clearly wants to follow in Biden's footsteps and make sure that nothing stops us from engaging in a full-on war with Russia.
00:39:22.800And as soon as we're out there with Russia, which is another thing that Vivek said, you know, we're pushing Russia and China into each other's arms, and then what, are we going to have a two-front war defending Ukraine on one side and Taiwan on the other?
00:39:49.780And we've spoken of, so many times, Mearsheimer's warning, and that's exactly what you refer to, a two-front war in which we've driven.
00:40:00.340And now, look, we can see it today, right?
00:40:03.320The assassination of Purgosian, that was, by the way, the ending of the family business, the settling of family business between Putin and Purgosian.
00:40:12.880At the same time, concurrent with the award ceremony of the Yasha Tank crew and the meeting of the BRICS nations in South Africa, where Saudi Arabia, where Iran, where the UAE, the Gulf nations, are all joining together against what?
00:40:31.520Against the Petrodollar, against King Dollar.
00:40:34.920They're looking at us saying, we don't want to be part of the carnival, the circus, chopping the penises off of little kids.
00:40:42.860We don't want anything to, chopping the breasts off of little girls.
00:42:04.720Well, as you mentioned, as you were talking about that, I just turned behind me and I saw the law enforcement pulling out their riot shield.
00:42:14.640So they're obviously preparing for something.
00:42:16.680There's really nothing going on here other than some healthy vocal arguments back and forth.
00:42:22.380People on both sides of the issue, the vast majority of people that are here right now are in favor of President Trump.
00:42:28.620But as you mentioned, this is a hotbed for Antifa and BLM activity.
00:42:32.040It's very likely that they could end up showing up.
00:42:34.640And so I don't know if that's what that's for or if it's just the optics that, you know, Trump supporters are are violent,
00:42:39.960what the left wants to portray them as when we all know that's that's not the truth.
00:42:43.200But as you said, we're still hearing somewhere around the seven o'clock hour is when he's anticipated showing up.
00:42:49.600Now, when you said those heated back and forth, are we talking between protesters and counter protesters or are people getting into it with the police?
00:42:58.280No, no, protesters and counter protesters.
00:43:00.580So you've got and what's interesting right now, there's a group across the street of about 40 and they're mostly black, local blacks that from the black community here.
00:43:09.780And you have some on the pro Trump side and some on the anti Trump side.
00:43:48.520Rather, I should say Libby Emmons, bring it back in here.
00:43:51.900Libby, let's juxtapose this, because I said before, it's like it's like the hurricane is coming.
00:43:57.740These people are talking about Sunday brunch.
00:43:59.720Why was the weaponization of the regime against Trump not made a larger talking point last night?
00:44:08.880Well, I think that was up to Fox, wasn't it?
00:44:11.640And Fox was feeling a little, well, I guess the term is butthurt, about having lost out a substantial portion of their viewership to the Tucker Carlson interview of Trump, which premiered on X, formerly known as Twitter.
00:44:26.460I'd rather just call it Twitter, but whatever.
00:44:34.180Yeah, so you had Mark McCallum and Brett Baer asking questions about the potential weaponization of the Department of Justice against Trump.
00:44:45.100And people did answer it, but it was just another question as part of this debate.
00:44:52.420Now, what's interesting about that is that there has been a distinct attempt to normalize the prosecution of Donald Trump, who faces some 600 years in prison if he were convicted on all of these charges spanning four states, right?
00:45:06.880You have New York, Georgia, the DOJ prosecuting him in federal court in Florida and also federal court in Washington, D.C.
00:45:14.400I think that it's important for the American people to never forget that this has never happened before.
00:45:21.040We have never seen a president prosecuted.
00:45:23.200We have never seen a former president prosecuted.
00:45:25.640Richard Nixon was pardoned famously by Gerald Ford, who came after him.
00:45:33.080And I think that it's really a shame that Fox downplayed it so much.
00:45:36.960When you looked at the interview that Tucker and Trump had, Trump talked about this.
00:45:43.040He talked about how Fox is no longer really a friendly network for him and that, you know, he didn't go to the debate because he's so far ahead in the polls.
00:45:51.480And also, why would he put himself out there for everyone to just take target practice when, as you've said multiple times, no one has really earned a shot at the title, which I think is also apparent.
00:46:02.740Last night, these men were all vying for, well, men plus Nikki Haley, who, did you notice, she kept using being female as part of her credentials?
00:46:34.880And Trump remembered the way that the RNC debates were stacked with donors, and that's exactly what they did.
00:46:41.020They put the RNC donors in front of the microphones, and Tyler Boyer, who is an RNC member, was explaining it to us, that that's why when Vivek had that line about the climate change agenda being a hoax, you got booze.
00:46:56.560You actually got booze from that at a Republican event, which is normally something that would be up there with, like, an abortion line that says, you know, I'm against abortion, boo?
00:47:08.200If Rush Limbaugh were around right now, by the way, he'd be doing his entire show just on that one audience reaction, because this crowd was a setup.
00:47:59.160And I am anxious to see how, going forward, these candidates deal with the fact that Trump is being prosecuted by his primary political opponent.
00:48:10.000Joe Biden is prosecuting Donald Trump, no matter how many times he says the Department of Justice is independent.
00:48:15.760We're seeing, just from the treatment of Hunter Biden by the Department of Justice, that the Department of Justice is skewed toward Biden and has been since Biden became the apparent nominee for the Democratic presidency in 2020.
00:48:34.180And I think that this cannot be normalized.
00:48:36.960The arrest of Donald Trump in four states cannot be normalized.
00:48:42.380It needs to be called out every step of the way.
00:48:44.980As soon as we start saying that it's okay for one person to prosecute their political enemies, weaponizing the Department of Justice, none of us is safe in this country.