EPISODE 547：THE RETURN OF THE DON - NEVER SURRENDER
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Trump's defiant and determined expression is the sort of signal that needs to be sent to whatever it was that you saw on the debate stage the other night. For every lie they tell us, we re going to get in their face and yell two truths.
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post. So totally free the post. So daily brief. We are in a fifth generational conflict.
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For every lie they tell, we're going to get in their face and yell two truths.
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This is human events with your host, Jack Posobiec. Deliver us from evil. This is an image that will
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be in the history books. This is the mugshot of the 45th president of the United States, Donald J.
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Trump, who surrendered himself at Fulton County Jail. History in the making as a former American
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president is booked into county jail. And here is something we have never seen before.
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A presidential mugshot taken inside that jail in Georgia. Authorities in Georgia releasing this
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image of Donald Trump appearing defiant after he was processed in the Fulton County Jail.
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Inmate number P01135809. That's how the former president is officially identified in Fulton
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County Jail records. Criminal defendant and former president Donald J. Trump presumed innocent until
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proven guilty in accordance with the rule of law for his sake and for ours. Governor, what do you think
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about this split screen of you here in the field of dreams and former president Trump being arrested in
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Georgia? Well, I'm glad I'm at the field of dreams. I'm happy to be here.
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If you challenge an election, you should be able to challenge an election. I thought the election was
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a rigged election, a stolen election. And I should have every right to do that. As you know, you have
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many people that you've been watching over the years do the same thing, whether it's Hillary Clinton or
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Stacey Abrams or many others. When you have that great freedom to challenge, you have to be able to,
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otherwise you're going to have very dishonest elections. What has taken place here is a travesty of
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justice. We did nothing wrong. I did nothing wrong. What they're doing is election interference.
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They're trying to interfere with an election. There's never been anything like it in our country
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before. This is their way of campaigning. And this is one instance, but you have three other instances.
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It's election interference. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events with
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Jack Posobiec. Today is August 25th, 2023. Anno Domini. Prisoner number P01135809. That's a prisoner
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number P01135809. Let me tell you something. There's an old adage out there. Iron sharpens iron.
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Pressure makes diamonds. Are you in this fight or are you standing on the sidelines? Are you commenting?
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Is this something that you live for? Is this something that you breathe? Is this something
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that you're willing to give your all for? Because that's what yesterday showed. When you walk straight
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into the regime, pointing a gun in your face, a loaded gun and saying, I'm not backing down.
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I'm not going anywhere because this is my country. This is my home and you are not going to take it
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from us. You greedy little communist scum. You were never supposed to be in charge.
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You tricked your way into getting there. And now we're going to root out every single last one of
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you. There will be no shadows left for you to hide at the end. Over on the great substat conundrum
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cluster, give you a line here about Trump's return to Twitter. What Trump's critics on the right never
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seem to understand is that he provides the center of gravity for an entire new world of conservative
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resistance to the decline. Strength breeds strength. Trump's defiant and determined expression is the
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sort of signal that needs to be sent. This is much better than whatever it was that we saw on that
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debate stage the other night, because I'm not interested in hearing your tax policy, your school
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choice policy. Those are all important things. But right now we need to see pressure. I want to see
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how you react to pressure. Are you the kind of person that folds? Are you the kind of person who
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can't even stand up and put up your hand all the way? Can you not get it up, Ron DeSantis? Can you not
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get it up, Chris Christie? Yeah, well, we found out who can't get it up. And I think we all know who can't
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get it up now. And then you have a singular moment where the beacons are lit. The banners are called.
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The signal is up. Are you ready for the fight of your lifetime? Are you ready for the final stand?
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The final stand to take back the United States of America? Because I'm here to tell you right now,
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right now that they have gone too far. They know it. Go look at Atlantic Magazine. Go look at all of them
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today. They're losing it. They realize they scrub. Only phony Fanny could be so stupid as to let him get
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mugshot and unleash the unbridled energy of this moment. And his final return, triumphant and defiant
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to Twitter. The return of the dawn. Are you ready? Can you feel it? Because I'm going to tell you right
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now, nothing can stop what is coming. We will never surrender. Never. Absolutely not. Come and take
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every single one of us. And then boys had a saying. You can't be listening to all that slappy
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whack, trim out as all it's a bam ship, nippy bam bam, like human events with Jack Posobiec.
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All right, Jack Posobiec live, Washington DC. Folks, I'm serious about this. The surrender has been
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canceled. The canceling has been canceled. We're digging in. We're fighting back. This is the hill
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to die on. And in order to help us explain what exactly the state of play is, what the battle space
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is now going forward. We've got a master strategist himself, Raheem Kassam of the National Pulse
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joins us today. The editor in chief, Raheem. How are you feeling this morning after all that?
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You know, relatively sanguine, Jack. This is something, of course, that so many of us had
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seen coming, had been ready for. I do appreciate the commentary about the mainstream media melting down
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over the mugshot and certainly melting down over the use of the mugshot, not just by the Trump campaign
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and Trump himself and his return to X, formerly Twitter and so forth, because I think it just goes
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to show you how little they understand about this situation, how little they are prepared for what's
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going on at the moment. And I like that sort of thing. You know, I think it tells you a lot about
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where they are versus where the country is versus versus where Marga is. And I think a lot of people
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for a long time, they lopped. Right. They live action role played about Trump going to jail and
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prosecuting him and locking him up and all of this stuff. And now that it's actually coming to pass,
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I think a lot of people, including and not limited to your great friend, Jake Tapper and people at the
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Atlantic magazine and so forth are sort of looking at this and going, oh, no, they're going to do it
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to our side and they're going to do it way nastier. And we've set a precedent here that the, you know,
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entropy rules apply to the toothpaste cannot now go back into the tube. So for me, is it, you know,
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is it a chilling moment in American history? Certainly. Have, have, have we been ready for
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a while now for this regime to cross the Rubicon? Yes.
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Well, and, and with the return to Twitter with the, the outpouring that you saw last night, I mean,
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I just have to say that the way they played this was fantastic. And even, even his remarks on the
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tarmac, he did an interview last night, I thought they were fine, but it was really the way they played
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this mugshot, the way that they played the, the stare, this sort of grizzly, uh, I'm, I'm coming to
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get you. You have pushed me too far. You have gone too far. And I think that's something that where,
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you know, when I go to, and I, I hear the, the DeSantis type saying, well, how is he going to win
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independence? How is he going to win people that didn't vote for him in 2020? There you go. It's right
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there. It's right exactly there because the things that these people have done to him, uh, in response
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and his response to them are absolutely going to steal the show to your point. Um, they said,
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Oh, the debate is going to reset the narrative. Just wait until Ron DeSantis starts debating.
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Guess what? Donald Trump is the narrative at this point. He is the center of gravity of the entire
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world. Um, and I, I honestly, you would have to only because I do this for a living. Could I even tell
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you anything that happened on that debate stage? If I went up to, you know, some normie out there,
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no, no clue whatsoever. But this map, this mugshot, I guarantee you, uh, I would, I'd go so far as to
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say that over 51% of the people on the planet have seen this image at this point.
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Yeah. And you know, I sort of resent a lot of the commentary about like, Oh, but you know,
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why did they need the mugshot? He's obviously one of the most recognizable men in the world.
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Uh, he is the single most recognizable man on this planet. And honestly, not just of this time.
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You can, you can probably start working other eras and epochs in of human, uh, uh, civilization now
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and thinking, okay, well, you know, Donald Trump now is, is far more recognizable, you know, to,
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to, to weigh more people than Genghis Khan ever was or ever will be. Right. And you just,
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you have to think about it through that. You'd have to go back to like the Roman emperors
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and that, and only then because they were on the coins.
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Right. Right. But, but, but far fewer people around at that time and far less of a historical
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record, uh, than will be created from what's going on right now, simply from a, um, from a
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technological, uh, perspective. So, so you've got to think of it like that. And we're living through
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those times and we have close proximity. A lot of us to those times, you know, I woke up this
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morning with, um, Donald Trump having sent the national pulse, not one, but two notes,
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uh, handwritten notes about our reporting this morning. And you just think, wow, you know,
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in amongst all of this, this man still has the, the content, uh, of his character to sit down with
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a pen and say, Hey, I read this article. It was great. Thanks for doing this. You know, so on and
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so forth. And you just think, you know, you're blown away by those sorts of things. Um, and, and,
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and, and you have to obviously work that back into the context of everything that is going on right
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now. Um, the, the split screen for me is where a lot of this lies. And, and while the DeSantis
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campaign of pushing, uh, the Washington post Ipsos poll, which I would never do by the way,
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the Washington post Ipsos polls are some of the worst polls consistently.
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Hold on. Walk us through. What are they, what are they pushing? What's, what's the line today
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for out of, uh, the line yesterday when this Washington post Ipsos poll came out was, uh, most people
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who watched the debate thought DeSantis edged it. Well, that isn't where you want to be on messaging
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anyway, but today you saw a morning consult poll came out that showed no difference post debate in
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what people think about the primary race and, and people will recall, you know, first it was wait
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till he gets in the race, you know, wait till he staffs up, wait till he hits the road, wait till he
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hits Iowa, wait till he hits New Hampshire, wait till he gets on the debate stage. At this point,
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you know, what are we, how long are we going to wait until Ron DeSantis actually shows up in this
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primary contest? And I think for those who think that Ron DeSantis is a better option, um, I have
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very bad news for you. Uh, it's getting worse, not better, uh, from a political consultant and
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strategist perspective, this is getting worse, not better. You look at the comments that Jeff Rowe made
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mocking Donald Trump for his indictments, worse, not better. You look at the split screen last night
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when Donald Trump is being actively persecuted by the state. Ron DeSantis is on a movie set playing
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catch in a field. It's getting worse, not better. So, uh, there's lots to think about from the last 24
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hours and, and even more to think about when you work in the normal day-to-day news cycle. Jack, we've
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got a massive breaking story up at the national pulse.com right now that I just put up and you think
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about it, you know, you're a news editor, you think about it, uh, you're doing this all day long,
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the breaking news, the urgent stuff, the massive stuff that the, the, the civilizational level
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stuff, but the day-to-day of news is still going on too. So, you know, between, I think the post
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millennial and human events and the national pulse, um, we've got you covered. No, I agree. And,
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and actually we'll, I'm told by, uh, by our production staff here that we will have that
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video ready after the break. So they'll load it up during the break, but there's another piece that
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I actually want to add onto. Amazing. So this will be an exclusive form from, it's the national pulse and human
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events working together as it should be. Uh, but the, there's another thing I would add. It's not
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just about wait until Iowa, wait until New Hampshire. We're starting to hear rumors now of wait until we
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get to Milwaukee, wait until we get to the convention. Is there a plot afoot to attempt to force a brokered
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convention? Are you hearing these rumors as well? I've heard these rumors for months. Um, it's,
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it's all, uh, Jeff Rowe, uh, who, who, for the, for the uninitiated is possibly one of the,
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the scummiest. And I say that as a matter of personal opinion, um, political operatives in the
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country, if not the Western hemisphere. Uh, and it's always been his strategy, uh, not to win fair
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and square. Remember they did one of their largest fundraisers at the, uh, legal offices of dominion
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voting systems in Washington, DC, you know, so, you know, where these people are coming from,
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you know, who they're hooked up with. It has always been his plan to not win fair and square,
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but to try and either knock Trump off the ballot in certain places. And he will work
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with the far left to make sure that that happens. Um, he was cheering them on, on CBS the other day.
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Uh, people can go and see that for themselves. We put a story up about it just a couple of minutes
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ago up at the national polls, which has the video of him doing that. Um, but, but yes,
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it's not going to be, you know, the, a brokered convention. It will be, it will be, uh, I suppose
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what you guys call a smash mouth on the convention floor. Uh, and they will try, uh, every dirty trick
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in the book and probably add some new ones in there too. Yep. Expect it, expect it, be ready for it.
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Which by the way, I, I do have to, uh, I do have to say is a little bit ironic because of course
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this is coming on the heels of the debate where every one of them asked about Mike Pence's duties
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on January 6th, where he refused to open up a contest on the, on the merits of how the 2020
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election was held. Every single one of them stood around the room and agreed with it. Yet this very
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same people now are telling you that we can't trust the results of the RNC convention. We're going to
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have to, we're going to have to open this up to the committee. We're going to have to open this up
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to the people in the room, those voters, you know, we can't just trust what they say.
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Yeah, that's right. Uh, but at this point, you know, I think everybody on that debate stage,
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including the people that I have more, um, in common with, um, who, who I have more sympathy
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with, you know, I quite like Doug Burgum. I don't know that much about Doug Burgum's, um, positions
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as a governor, but he seems like a nice chap. Seems, seems very Canadian and very nice in his manner.
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That's true. Actually, he's pretty close there in North Dakota.
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I mean, no, he sounds Canadian. No offense to the North Dakotans out there, but you sound Canadian
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and there's nothing wrong with that. Um, but, but, but just a nice chap, um, Vivek, you know,
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has plenty of, um, charisma and, and, uh, appeal, but also has, you know, plenty of questions,
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uh, above him. But, but everybody on that stage, I think, uh, is, is full of inconsistencies. And the
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one thing you can say about Donald Trump is, is he is consistently Donald Trump. Uh, he doesn't
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actually go out there and say things to placate even his own, uh, firmer supporters. He's consistently
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asked about the vaccines and he says, look, we made a decision in that moment. What do you want me to
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tell you? I never, I never wanted a mandate. What do you want me to tell you? He's asked questions
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about Lindsey Graham and he says, look, Lindsey Graham is useful to me in so many ways. He says
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the same thing about John Bolton, who is no friend of the MAGA movement, but he put him in there for a
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specific reason, got what he needed out of him and then got rid of him when he was done. Donald Trump
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is consistently Donald Trump. The rest of them are consistently making excuses for their
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inconsistencies. No, I agree with that. And, and also the same people bring up Lindsey Graham,
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never bring up the fact that Rand Paul is always just on the other side of Donald Trump. So he's got,
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you know, kind of both sides battling it out. Stay tuned because we've got an
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exclusive video from the National Pulse. The first time you've ever seen this
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will be right here breaking when Human Events returns just after the break, because folks,
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We're talking about influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine,
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Jack Posobiec. Where's Jack? Jack. He's done a great job.
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We're back. Human Events, Jack Posobiec, Washington, DC. We're with Raheem Kassam and Raheem has
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exclusive video. You're going to see this now for the first time. You've never seen it anywhere else,
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folks. Raheem, do you want to tee us up into, or I see they're playing the video here. So we've got
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to explain to us what it is we're looking at and where it is.
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Yeah, let's, let's keep that on a loop if we can. While I, while I explain what's happened here
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earlier today, just a few, maybe an hour ago, we got word that local media in Jupiter, which is in
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Florida, was reporting that 17, originally actually reporting that 14, now 17 migrants
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had been detained after coming ashore, illegally, obviously, ramming into a Palm Beach County
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Sheriff's Office marine vessel while doing so around 9 a.m. this morning. We tracked this video
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down from a local business owner who kindly gave us the permission to put this up at the National
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Pulse. It's, there's more content up there than just this video as well. But so far as we know,
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of course, with the governor, Ron DeSantis, currently in a field in Iowa somewhere, his state is being
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invaded by boats, by migrants, 17 of which now have been captured by law enforcement. Now, I believe
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that we were reporting that 16 of these migrants are believed to be Haitian and one Bahamanian. But
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it's some pretty extraordinary footage you can see there of the boat coming ashore at Jupiter
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Inlet, a very nice part of the world, a very nice part, a very expensive.
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Wait a minute, this is, this looks like, and I'm just seeing the video, show me now for the first
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time. This looks like a speedboat. This doesn't look like some, you know, slapped together makeshift
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raft or pontoon boat of some sort. This looks like an actual speedboat. It's motorized. It looks like
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it hasn't, can't tell exactly from the shot that's clipped off, but it looks like some sort of outboard
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motor on it. Yeah, it doesn't look like, it's not a raft, it's not a rinky-dink migrant vessel,
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the likes of which you see in Europe. This is, this is certainly something a little bit, a little bit
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nicer, a little bit plosher. The captain of the boat was identified already. I may butcher the name
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here, but Baza El-Louis, or Baza El-Louis Francois, 30 years old, rammed the Palm Beach County Sheriff's
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Marine Unit vessel and then tried to make off before, before being apprehended. You can see in the video,
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there was a, the chopper there. There are actually several choppers up in the air and car units responded
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as well from local law enforcement. So there's no, there's no comment yet that we can see and then we've
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looked for from the governor's office. But this is some pretty, some pretty dramatic stuff. As I say, you can
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see more of it up at the nationalpulse.com. You know, I've lived through things like this happening in
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Europe. I've seen it happen in the United Kingdom. Obviously, Australia has had massive issues with,
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with migrant boats. And of course, it's not just your southern border, the land border that is
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porous, as you can see from this video. Migrant vessels now coming ashore in some pretty affluent
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neighborhoods in Florida. Now, now this, by the way, given that it's not exactly a long range vessel,
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I wouldn't, I wouldn't believe that it had made it there all the way from Haiti. I would think that if
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you look, the Bahamas are right there across from, from Jupiter, from Palm Beach County. So I would
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imagine that it came across from probably, probably that's, that's, I think that's Grand Bahama, which
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is right there, Freeport. That's probably within range of that vessel. I don't know if they'd have
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enough to, enough fuel to be able to get back. Maybe if they brought some extra tanks on board,
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of course, you'd be able to, to refuel and then get back. So possibly they were making runs of this,
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but, but Raheem, to do this in broad daylight, it really speaks to a, and I just have to say it,
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a lax security situation, a lax security posture that they were not, would not be worried of what
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you're seeing right here. The, the fact that, that, that people are being viewed and that it's being
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easily captured, helicopters up and, and probably also they understand that because of Joe Biden's
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policies that they will, that under the current, um, Department of Homeland Security and ICE policies,
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it's, it's kind of almost back to where Bill Clinton was with wet foot, dry foot, that if
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you're captured on land, you are able to stay within the confines of the United States.
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Yeah, look, I mean, the pull factors are extraordinary at the moment, and this is,
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this is one of the largest problems that Europe faces and the United Kingdom faces with its boats,
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and, and, and the illegal migration going on there as well is, is, is, is you can, you can pretend all
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of you, all that you want about putting up, uh, barriers or having boats, or you've got a barge
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where you're going to put a handful of migrants on, uh, but as long as the pull factors remain the
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same, the welfare factors, like you say, the processing, the escaping and abscondment into
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general society, well, well, you know, effective catch and release schemes, um, so on and so forth,
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uh, the NGOs, which in a lot of senses, uh, in a lot of the cases are state-sponsored,
00:24:05.420
government-sponsored, foreign office, um, you know, US department-sponsored, uh, whether it's
00:24:11.380
National Endowment for Democracy or, or, or, or what have you, these are massive, massive pull
00:24:16.140
factors, and one of the other narratives I think that is really important to mention here is one
00:24:20.000
of the things that really, uh, annoys me is, is when I see Europeans talking about, uh, American mass
00:24:25.260
shootings, right, and how many people die in American mass shootings, you see this narrative going on,
00:24:29.180
on, especially in internet arguments all the time, and I say, well, that's really funny.
00:24:35.020
Yeah, but the mass shooting argument, right, is, is, is, it usually comes down to a couple of things
00:24:39.520
that we know, right, uh, people with significant mental health problems, people without fathers in
00:24:44.620
their homes, uh, people with drug problems, all that kind of thing. The, the mass drownings are 2x
00:24:51.560
in Europe, what the mass shootings are in, in the United States, and in Europe, that is a state-sponsored
00:24:59.100
policy. It is EU policy. It is most EU members, uh, uh, nation states policies. It's certainly UK
00:25:06.420
government policy that all these pull factors for cheap migrant labor exist, and so it's, it's
00:25:12.980
incomparable, um, to start with, but, but, but, you know, nobody ever talks about this. Open borders,
00:25:20.200
as a, as a, as a government underwritten concept is killing far more people around the world right
00:25:26.500
now than, than, than mass shootings in America are, and yet, and yet it's breathlessly talked
00:25:32.080
about in, from, from, you know, from California all the way across, uh, to Eastern Europe. People
00:25:37.920
bleat on about mass shootings in the United States, but, but we never talk about this thing about
00:25:42.880
illegal migration, and that is something that we at the National Pulse are constantly hammering,
00:25:47.080
like, Hey, you know, if, if, if death and stopping death is really something that we care
00:25:51.860
about here, then let's talk about this. You know, and that's a huge point because if you
00:25:58.480
do nothing about these factors and frequently, I don't hear very much, even from Republicans
00:26:04.880
to talk about these factors. I don't hear these, uh, the ability to actually fight back other
00:26:11.580
than platitudes towards, Oh, we have to, we have to fight illegal immigration. I'm, I'm
00:26:16.060
for the border, things like this, they know they have to say, but this is kind of what I
00:26:19.960
was getting to in the opening of the show today, where there's a difference between showing
00:26:24.760
pressure, um, showing that you will, you have resolved in the face of that pressure and adversity
00:26:32.900
where you don't have any of, I don't get that sense of any of it from these people up on
00:26:37.780
stage. Meanwhile, if we continue to allow this, just even from showing this video, and
00:26:43.780
I, I hate that, that it's even happening, but you will see more of these, you will see
00:26:48.800
more of more operations of people coming right across the border. And I guarantee you, these
00:26:53.540
Haitians will be put into some kind of process. They will not be sent back. And unfortunately,
00:26:58.260
it's going to create a system whereby, and they'll come up from Haiti, they'll get to the
00:27:02.960
Bahamas, and they will start pouring over. Raheem, what happens to a country when you're,
00:27:08.860
you, you essentially open up your borders to millions and millions of people from the
00:27:14.240
Well, it ceases to be a country. You know, I, I spent a lot of last night rewatching old
00:27:19.600
clips of, uh, Enoch Powell, one of my political, um, heroes. And, and he was, he was, uh, the
00:27:27.200
first canceled, the first political victim of cancel culture in, in, in, you know, the modern
00:27:31.920
day, a British parliamentarian who, who talked about this, who talked about unifying identities,
00:27:37.140
unifying cultures, what, what it actually takes to be a nation. And the reason I was looking
00:27:41.180
it up was because I recalled when I was writing my 2017 book, 2018 book about Enoch Powell,
00:27:47.820
uh, he was once asked by somebody, he said, you know, given all of the Ferrari that you
00:27:51.760
create concerning immigration and migration and all of this stuff, you know, how do you
00:27:56.060
sleep at night? And he said, simple. I put my head on the pillow and close my eyes.
00:28:00.440
The problems will still be there in the morning. And when Donald Trump was interviewed yesterday,
00:28:04.880
um, on another television network, uh, you know, he was asked, you know, how do you sleep?
00:28:10.520
He said, it is what it is, right? You just got to do it. It's a similar, it's a similar
00:28:14.900
way of thinking about these things, similar way of thinking about the world. You have to
00:28:18.040
have that level of resilience to go through these things every single day. And to bring
00:28:23.040
it back to our earlier conversation, I'm just not sure the American public saw that type
00:28:27.100
of resilience on stage the other night, um, in Milwaukee. So it all comes full circle here.
00:28:33.540
No, I, I agree with you, Raheem. That being said, uh, when you look at the state of play,
00:28:38.720
illegals invading Florida, president Trump being arrested, mugshot out in, in Georgia,
00:28:44.140
a couple of minutes left here. Tell us where does the election go from here? You've been our,
00:28:49.500
our best prognosticator of it. And where can people go to follow more about the national pulse?
00:28:53.880
Yeah. Look, I wonder if, I wonder if you guys have the image of, uh, you know, the front cover
00:28:59.320
of the, the first, the inaugural issue of the print version of the national pulse magazine,
00:29:07.600
the pulse plus magazine, uh, which we designed late last night. America's most wanted is a strap
00:29:12.300
line there. And look, everything you see me doing right now, when you see me looking down,
00:29:15.740
I'm looking at the computer because we're breaking news in real time, right? Um, everything we do is
00:29:20.180
supported by our readers. Um, and, and we give a lot back. I mean, we could probably give too much
00:29:25.460
back. So perhaps get in now while you're grandfathered in. But one of them is that,
00:29:30.660
is that stunning front cover of the magazine, quarterly print magazine. People can go to
00:29:35.000
the national pulse.com forward slash upgrade. Um, you know, help us keep doing news like this,
00:29:41.000
the news that you don't hear anywhere else, news that you don't see anywhere else. And if you do see
00:29:44.600
it somewhere else, it's two months later, five months later, three years later, you know,
00:29:48.540
the United States Congress is still going through that Hunter Biden laptop. Haven't approached me
00:29:52.280
at all. I've got everything indexed. I know every pseudonym of Joe Biden that's been used on that
00:29:56.980
laptop. Do they care? No, but we do. And we report the news quickly, accurately. You'll remember who was
00:30:02.520
the first to publish the accurate mugshot last night, Jack. That was us. That was the national pulse.
00:30:07.380
We had that before CNN, anybody else. Um, and I, and I thank people and I'm grateful for people
00:30:11.920
coming over and doing that. The news, uh, the accurate news, the quick news, um, is some of
00:30:16.760
the most important, uh, the thing that you can plug into nowadays. That's why we built the app
00:30:20.880
that gives people push notifications whenever a big story comes out. Um, and that's why I love
00:30:25.420
doing this show because you get it. Uh, human events gets it. Postmillennial gets it. Jack
00:30:29.220
gets it. Uh, we get it too. And we're right there with you. All right. Appreciate it. Raheem. Go check
00:30:34.980
out the national pulse. Go check out this video, by the way, get the app. I, I, I love the app
00:30:40.180
because all it does is give me information that debunks everything that the mainstream
00:30:44.300
media is telling others. We're going to come right back with Joshua Lysak, an editor, a
00:30:48.480
copywriter, and a ghostwriter who's going to be telling us some very interesting stories.
00:30:52.840
You're about the boring people at your office. I'm trying to listen to the new human events
00:30:57.380
with Jack Posobiec. All right, Jack Posobiec back live here, Washington, D.C. Now, uh, originally
00:31:05.120
we had said that we were going to have Scott Adams on today because he's got his new book
00:31:09.680
out. Reframe your brain. It's fantastic. I've received a copy of it. I'm already a couple
00:31:15.720
of chapters in. It's amazing. There was an unexpected event that took place behind the
00:31:22.320
scenes that I'm not currently at liberty to say. It will be revealed eventually. Scott will
00:31:29.440
now be with us on Monday, but we also have the editor. Fortunately, we have the editor of
00:31:34.580
the book, Joshua Lysak, as well as the author of his own book. Uh, so good. They call you
00:31:40.660
fake, uh, that I also read and thought was absolutely fantastic. And he joins us now, Joshua, thank
00:31:45.180
you so much for joining us here on human events. Jack, I appreciate you having me on. Thank
00:31:49.380
you. So, so walk me through because, you know, you took Scott's book from, and he was coming
00:31:55.600
from this, this, you know, the publishing commercial mass media world. And then he gets canceled for
00:32:02.980
essentially railing against what, what CRT is doing to our country. He gets canceled from
00:32:08.540
that. And then you sort of brought him across into the, the wild, wild world of self-publishing.
00:32:14.980
What was that process like? Yes. So I have been working with both traditionally and independent,
00:32:20.200
published, uh, penitently published authors for 12 years now. And I've seen it all on both sides,
00:32:25.640
the good, the bad, the ugly, the based, and the cringe. And when Scott, it was entirely canceled.
00:32:33.500
I think he, he's now the most canceled author who is alive, the most canceled living author.
00:32:41.240
After that happened, he reached out to me and said, Joshua, so you basically know more about
00:32:45.760
independent publishing than anyone else in the world, right? I said, some might say yes.
00:32:50.200
And so that began our relationship working on reframe your brain. It was a draft at that point.
00:32:59.740
Um, there was still a bit of quite the core content was there. And for those who are not
00:33:06.760
super familiar with what a reframe is, a reframe is used often in the world of hypnosis, which is
00:33:12.580
subconscious persuasion, subconscious self-persuasion to allow yourself to get more of what you want
00:33:18.000
and stop doing what you don't want to be doing. And so there's over 160 reframes inside of reframe
00:33:23.380
your brain. And they cover such areas as career growth, entrepreneurship, physical health and
00:33:29.860
wellness, and overall mental and emotional wellbeing. And there's even a few fun ones in there on reality
00:33:35.800
itself. It's quite a fun read. People are posting their experiences or testimonials or transformations
00:33:41.240
already. I was privileged to work on it and made quite a few suggestions and improvements that Scott
00:33:47.760
was happy to, uh, accept. And we also worked together on the second edition of his bestselling
00:33:53.260
classic, how to fail at almost everything and still win a big. And it was while I was working on Scott's
00:33:59.760
book that I was also able to finish up and independently launch mine. So good. They call you a fake.
00:34:05.560
So tell me, tell us all a little bit about your background and so good. They call you a fake.
00:34:12.080
So what, what, what does that mean? So good. They call you a fake. Why would, why would anyone do
00:34:16.180
that? Yes. So when I first thought about writing my own book, because people have been asking me to
00:34:23.200
write my own book, Joshua, you've written like 80 books winning and finally write yours. Huh? Huh?
00:34:28.100
That was the question I've been dealing with for a number of months now.
00:34:31.480
Well, well, for the audience that doesn't know your, that doesn't know your background,
00:34:35.440
what do you mean you wrote 80 books? How did you write 80 books? I thought this was your first one.
00:34:39.620
Yes. So I am a professional ghostwriter. So I've ghostwritten memoirs, current events,
00:34:45.000
books, political books, business books, everything from digital marketing and hypnosis to great grandma
00:34:50.940
who wanted her kids to know what it was like growing up during the war, a little bit of everything.
00:34:56.680
But what people have been asking me for years is, so Joshua, where's your own nonfiction book?
00:35:01.000
Like with your name on it, you've written for everybody else. Basically you work with people
00:35:04.640
like Scott. So where's yours? Okay. Okay. I finally need to finish mine. And I thought about
00:35:10.120
what do these authors that I work with have in common? Because many of the authors who come to me,
00:35:15.340
they are bonafide experts in their domain, but they're not the recognized authority yet because
00:35:21.760
they don't have a book that is a physical manifestation of their life's work. And so it made sense for them
00:35:29.040
to get a book done by someone who's done it dozens of times. And it made sense for me to finally tell
00:35:34.740
their stories. And I realized that what these people, my clientele all have in common is how
00:35:40.660
they've been able to monetize their haters, their critics, their naysayers, people who say,
00:35:45.840
there's no way you're that good at what you do. You make all these claims in your book. Well,
00:35:49.020
where's your proof? Where's your studies? Huh? All those testimonials are fake, right?
00:35:53.120
And we realize now that there is a new equilibrium for entrepreneurs, for people who want to make a
00:35:59.240
name for themselves. It's not good enough to be good enough anymore. You must be so good that people
00:36:03.660
look at you and say, there's no way you could have accomplished all that. You have to be a fake.
00:36:07.740
And what that does is that, to follow a Mike Sredovich quote, attention is influence. And so by
00:36:14.480
commanding attention with results that are so good, they have to be fake. You have influence.
00:36:20.720
And when you have influence, you see this, you can, you see this again and again, right? You can see
00:36:25.980
it with, with Elon Musk. You can see it certainly with, with Donald Trump, right? He's, he, the guy's
00:36:32.820
a multi-billionaire. He became the president of the United States. And yet there are people who write
00:36:37.560
like, who have like $35,000 jobs working for BuzzFeed saying, oh, this guy has no idea what he's
00:36:43.280
doing. This guy has no clue what he's saying. And yet, okay, you know, let's, let's look at his
00:36:49.660
accomplishments versus yours. Where are we at? By the way, there's a, speaking of which, there's a
00:36:53.920
hit piece on you today that's out in, in a certain magazine. I'd be remiss if I didn't give you the
00:37:00.060
opportunity to respond. Oh, yes. Yes. I received the publishers, publishers weekly here. It's a,
00:37:07.360
it's a review of my book that I've, I tweeted about it. They put in quotes, I may, I'm a self-described
00:37:14.140
ghost writer. And they say that I praise the patriarchy. And that I say, I use the term woke
00:37:26.260
as a vague pejorative, but I never actually define it. And then they close it by saying,
00:37:33.900
I'm quote unquote, intentionally limiting my reach and alienating people on their path to success.
00:37:42.520
They are so good. They say I'm intentionally alienating people on their path to success.
00:37:48.240
So my book is in and of itself a case study of the message.
00:37:52.520
Precisely. No, I also love when people say you can't define woke. It's very clear.
00:37:56.420
Wokeness is the conspiracy theory. And that's what it is. A conspiracy theory that the observable
00:38:02.780
disparate impacts that we can see throughout society are due to systemic oppression. That's it. It's as
00:38:08.820
simple as that. Disparate impact equals systemic oppression, whether that's systemic racism,
00:38:14.220
systemic genderism, et cetera. Speaking of which, you had an interesting Twitter thread at one point
00:38:19.620
describing the Mary Sue phenomenon. And you were actually talking about why certain movies suck
00:38:25.480
because they include the Mary Sue now. And once you see it, you can never unsee it. What is the Mary Sue?
00:38:31.080
And can you tell us real quickly how you monetize that thread?
00:38:36.480
Yes. So I wrote last December because I'm in the world of stories and I try to, with my nonfiction
00:38:41.700
authors, tell compelling stories. And what we see from Hollywood recently are anti-compelling stories
00:38:47.580
where they take often female protagonists who are perfect in every way, more perfect than their
00:38:53.420
male counterparts. And the treasure of, was within them the entire time. And it's a story that goes
00:39:02.100
nowhere. And of course, characters like the latest version of Galadriel and Rey from Star Wars,
00:39:08.840
Bo Peep even, pick your recent franchise that stars a female protagonist. And many of them are a Mary Sue,
00:39:14.720
which is the stereotype name that's given to these types of characters. And I wrote a thread exploring
00:39:20.560
the recent phenomenon of Mary Sue across all popular fiction, it seems like, as well as some
00:39:26.900
previous three-dimensional female characters. The way to do it right. The way to actually tell a story
00:39:35.240
with a relatable female character. And I also gave some tips on how people who are telling their own
00:39:40.380
story can come across three-dimensional, real, relatable, authentic, not like a Mary Sue or a
00:39:46.560
Mary Sue there for the fellas. Of course, that was immediately picked up and I was canceled across
00:39:51.460
all popular media, which I think is what Drew Scott to me because I came pre-canceled so he didn't have
00:39:56.580
to worry about any shenanigans in that regard. It's a perfect, perfect team there. But what I did is
00:40:02.440
throughout the thread, I posted links to various products of mine, writing courses and whatnot.
00:40:08.860
And of course, people would share those saying, look at this guy trying to make a quick buck
00:40:12.880
scamming people. He's a total fake. He's lying about everything he says he's done. It's Photoshopped.
00:40:18.940
All his income screenshots are Photoshopped. So it's, I'm so good they call me a misogynist. So
00:40:23.260
good they call me a scammer. So good they call me a liar. So good they call me, uh, Photoshopping
00:40:28.020
my results. So good they call me, the funniest one was credibly accused misogynist, uh, who's
00:40:33.540
obviously an incel and virgin, despite the fact that I'm married and have two children, which
00:40:38.440
is always fine. Credibly accused misogynist. So good they call you an incel even though you're
00:40:40.800
married and have two children. Yeah. I'm in, I'm in time. So we, we have that in common.
00:40:44.860
So you're getting attacked in Publishers Weekly. I'm in Time Magazine today, which, you know,
00:40:48.740
I don't even consider this an attack, but they described me as a right wing provocateur, or
00:40:52.800
I'm like, you know, at this point, that's, that's one of the nicer, it's on the nicer
00:40:56.280
side of what people call me. So I'll take that as a compliment because you know what I do
00:41:00.780
intend to provoke and you're right. I'm definitely on the right wing. Stay tuned folks. We were
00:41:05.580
having a fascinating conversation here with all things writing, how it affects us in the real
00:41:10.420
world, the world of ghostwriting, the secrets that he's revealing, and also how to reframe
00:41:14.900
your brain. We'll be right back for a final segment.
00:41:20.940
I'm always listening to human events with Jack Posobiec.
00:41:25.480
All right, Jack Posobiec. We're back here live watching DC. We're talking to the editor
00:41:29.760
of the new book, reframe your brain by Scott Adams. His name is Joshua Lysak. Josh. So Joshua,
00:41:37.100
the Amazon, because you guys were self-publishing this thing, at one point, shut down the entire
00:41:44.980
process as you were about to launch. And that's why the launch was kind of, you know, kind of
00:41:50.720
herky-jerky to begin with. What happened there?
00:41:54.140
Yes. So when we initially submitted all of the files, the manuscript, cover, artwork, et cetera,
00:42:00.320
to the independent publishing service of Amazon called Amazon KDP, they replied and said, oh,
00:42:07.060
we need some documentation proving that you own the rights, Mr. Adams, to all of these books.
00:42:12.520
Reframe your brain and had to fail at almost everything and still win big.
00:42:16.020
Wrote up the email, sent over all the paperwork, and they said, you are banned. Wait a second,
00:42:23.940
Scott says, this is all the paperwork you asked for. No, it's not. You're banned for life.
00:42:28.540
And that was quite a hilarious little event because they wouldn't reply to us. All of their
00:42:33.120
replies looked like they were AI generated, including the ones that said, oh, you do not
00:42:38.680
have the rights to the books that you're attempting to publish and distribute through us, so you
00:42:43.960
are banned for life. There's no recourse for you. Then, of course, roughly several million
00:42:48.980
impressions later and quite a bit of negative attention and energy going towards the Amazon
00:42:55.040
KDP account. We heard from a real human, an apology. Here's your account back. You can
00:43:00.660
go ahead and publish everything. And that was a tense and interesting and colorful several few
00:43:05.080
days there. And so it made Reframe Your Brain, the only twice canceled book available in America.
00:43:11.500
The only twice canceled book. So as you were working on it, what would you say,
00:43:16.020
you know, what was your favorite part of the book? I mean, you mentioned how it gives you
00:43:19.700
systems for reframing different challenges and obstacles that you may face in your life. What was your
00:43:24.500
favorite part? Yes, my favorite ones are around mental health, particularly grief, particularly
00:43:31.920
grief. Often as kids, we aren't necessarily around death as much. And then as we grow up and those
00:43:40.000
around us die tragically or just of old age, we begin to find ourselves having to cope with loss,
00:43:46.960
permanent loss, at least here in this mortal coil. And so there's a section in Reframe Your Brain
00:43:53.660
about how to reframe the grieving process rather than tragedy. It's a privilege. It's a privilege
00:44:03.280
to help the living, be they pets or be they elderly parents or grandparents or those of us who've lost
00:44:11.520
children, either born or pre-born. It was quite helpful as my wife and I were going through some
00:44:18.160
stuff of our own to actually work on that section of Scott's book. So those of us who
00:44:24.800
are dealing with life's difficulties, even despite all the routines and shanigans going on in everyday
00:44:31.100
life, it's quite a mental health boost, this book, for those of us who have dealt with or are going
00:44:37.400
through or about to go through some sort of personal disruption like that. And that's just one section
00:44:42.000
of one chapter. And let me pull that out a little bit. So when you say to say it's a privilege,
00:44:47.900
do you mean the process itself or more that it was a process to get to know that person? It was a
00:44:55.120
privilege to have experienced that individual. Which do you mean exactly? It is a privilege to be the
00:45:03.740
one who mourns for them, the one who helps them out of this world, be they a person or be they
00:45:10.840
a pet. And it's an honor to be able to have that role. It's not easy. It's difficult. And so last
00:45:18.800
night, Scott did a Twitter space in which several people said that that set of reframes were their
00:45:24.200
most useful for them as they have recently, just in the past few days, gone through grief of their own.
00:45:30.680
And it's a way of going from loss to meaning from loss to meaning from loss. That's that's
00:45:39.700
incredible. Actually, that's kind of reminds me of the old I definitely, you know, nerd checking
00:45:44.000
myself here. But the the third book in the or no second book in the Ender's Game series is
00:45:50.260
Speaker for the Dead. And, you know, he reframes himself as instead of being this, this guy who's
00:45:57.000
taken out an entire so he kills a spoiler or he kills this entire like race of aliens. And so instead
00:46:02.720
of being, you know, holding himself guilty for that, and even the innocence, that he becomes a
00:46:08.480
speaker for the dead. And so it's almost like a profession where he goes around to like different
00:46:13.520
funerals in different situations, and he really learns who that person was. And it's almost like
00:46:19.240
a professional eulogizer. And so it's, they actually deal with some of those similar issues in
00:46:24.120
in that book. And I'm interested to know maybe if Orson Scott Card, as you know, it just occurs
00:46:29.220
to me that I read that book when I was on deployment at Guantanamo, but I wonder if maybe he was
00:46:33.280
dealing with something. And that was his way of, you know, going through that to your point
00:46:37.720
of reframing it as it is a privilege that I am the one who gets to do this. That's really
00:46:45.080
powerful. Anything else? Anything lighter in the book? I don't want people to think this
00:46:49.360
Yes, that's actually towards towards the end in the mental later in the mental health
00:46:54.020
reframe section, very important. Yes, but there's quite a bit that are specifically around personal
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success, business success, career success. For example, one of the ones that it's about
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imposter syndrome is this idea like, well, I'm just getting started. I don't know what I'm doing.
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People are going to see they're going to know I'm going to be embarrassed. Reframe that as
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look how much you've learned already. You've gotten to this spot. You're going to learn it.
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You're going to figure it out. Everyone who's successful at this has been here before.
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And of course, Scott in his classic Scott Wade condenses that to the usual frame and the reframe.
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And in a few paragraphs, he's able to go take people from anxiety to confidence. And that's,
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again, just one reframe in one section. And it's over 160 of these. And usually people have their own
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top 10 list. And you'll notice that most people's top 10 reframed lists are all different from one
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another because there are different points in their life where they want to improve,
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if not transform their lives and enjoy happiness and success.
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All right, Joshua, just about the last minute here on the show, let us know where can people go to
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purchase not only Reframe Your Brain, but also your book? Because I got to say, I read yours in
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probably a day and a half. It's not long, but it was a fantastic book. And it, you know,
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your book, I would say is really a starting point for many things. Where can people go?
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Yes, they're available on Amazon. So good. They call you a fake is in hardcover, softcover,
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audio and digital. And of course, the new Scott Adams book, Reframe Your Brain, as well as the second
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edition of the classic, how to fail at almost everything and still win big. That's also available
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in softcover, reframes and audio and digital as well. Also on Amazon.
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If anyone's out there in the audience looking for a good ghostwriter, by the way, I know somebody,
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but he don't come cheap, folks. He don't come cheap. But you know what? He ain't chat GPT either.
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I don't think that'll be something he's competing with. Joshua Lisek, thank you so much for joining
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us today. Look, folks, remember, the fight continues. You want to know what the only way out is? You
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want to know what the answer is? The answer is you never quit. You never surrender. There is no
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surrender. There is no giving in. The only way out is through. And we will get through this,
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destroy the regime and retake our country. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission