Jack Posobiec is a commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran. He is a regular contributor to the New York Times, CNN, CBS News, NPR, and other media outlets. He is also the author of the best selling book, The Dark Side of the Secret: The Untold Story of 9/11.
00:02:05.280He should have never been prosecuted here.
00:02:07.300This was a dad standing up for his daughter.
00:02:10.260No one who lived through the horror of the September 11th terrorist attacks can ever forget the agony and the anguish of that terrible day.
00:02:20.280Today, on the solemn anniversary of those monstrous attacks, we remember the 2,977 precious souls who were savagely taken from us on that morning 22 years ago, leaving a void that can never be filled.
00:02:38.420Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:03:08.220And it was a respite for 3,000 first responders and National Guardsmen in the month following the cleanup.
00:03:13.420It wasn't damaged, pretty miraculous here, only a few broken windows.
00:03:18.920I always say that Trinity Church was the only church there, the only building down there that wasn't damaged because it was built before we had union labor.
00:03:33.840No, it was protected by God, and we all know that.
00:03:35.900David, when that event happened, when 9-11 happened so many years ago, 22 years today, did we ever really think that that would be the last successful, and I mean truly successful, mass terrorist attack in New York City?
00:03:50.420I believe that we were blindsided, maybe intelligence failures, but I think they were stringing along a lot of chatter, a lot of things.
00:04:04.880The FBI knew there were pilots in training in the U.S., but had no specific credible threats, you know, as far as I've ever seen or can tell, unless it's classified.
00:04:15.100But, you know, they arrested Zikarius Moussaoui, but the walls that were put up in 95 between the CIA and the FBI, and the FBI wouldn't let us look at his laptop, you know.
00:04:27.000And, you know, listen, when you look back at it today and the violations of the Patriot Act against J6ers and other good Americans, you know, maybe it was the right call, I don't know.
00:04:35.960But we would have uncovered 9-11, you know, and after 9-11, we went back and got his laptop with a warrant.
00:04:42.240But I think it was a time where we were unprepared.
00:04:46.760You know, Bill Clinton had a chance after the Kenyan and Tanzania bombings that left 200 dead, 8,000 wounded in Africa.
00:04:55.080Bill Clinton admitted in a Long Island luncheon about 20 years ago that we had a chance to take in bin Laden, and he said no, or his administration and the FBI said no,
00:05:05.000because they wanted to treat it as a criminal case and not a, you know, a terrorist case, and there was disagreement on how to take him in.
00:05:14.960But, you know, there were a lot of attacks before 9-11.
00:05:17.560The USS Cole, we had Khobar Towers, we had all these incredible events.
00:05:22.380And as I said earlier on the war room, you know, in Jersey, in Jersey City, there was a $32 million ATF sting with Muslim extremists out of the Al-Salam mosque in Jersey to buy stinger missiles and other stuff.
00:05:38.880So radical terror has infested New York since the Al-Faruq Mosque was recruiting Mujahideen, which the CIA funded and the U.S. backed at the time.
00:05:52.160And the Al-Faruq Mosque in Brooklyn was also home to Al-Khifa, and it was a stomping ground for El-Sayed Nocer, who shot Mayor Kahana, a former Knesset member who the Palestinians, you know, weren't fond of.
00:06:03.840And that's really what started this whole thing.
00:06:07.040And the first plot was to break him out of Attica prison after he was convicted on the gun charge.
00:06:13.820I want to say thank you for your life hit.
00:06:16.520Thank you for your work today up on the war room.
00:06:20.100And then joining us here now from live at World Trade Center, 22 years here on Human Events.
00:06:26.340Ladies and gentlemen, one of the best ways that you can support us here at Human Events and the work that we do is subscribing to us on our Rumble channel.
00:08:13.680I want to bring on now Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer, someone that I've got to know over the years here in Washington, D.C.,
00:08:21.460someone who's always been willing to tell the truth about what's going on inside of our government, even when it comes to great personal cost.
00:08:31.580And while people know Lieutenant Colonel Schaefer for coming on here and he does great analysis of what's going on in the world,
00:08:37.480he gives us analysis on Ukraine, on the fight on the ground.
00:08:40.500A lot of people don't know, actually, the backstory of Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer.
00:08:46.560And the first time, he blew the whistle on something called ABLE Danger that the Defense Intelligence Agency was working on,
00:08:56.720but didn't want people to know that they were working on.
00:08:59.140Lieutenant Colonel Schaefer now joins us today.
00:20:19.040I want to turn back now to Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer.
00:20:21.960Tony, you were walking us through and you mentioned something about former Congressman Kurt Weldon.
00:20:27.620And this is something that I don't usually get to get a chance or have a chance to talk about often on the show.
00:20:34.280But one of my very first forays into anything political was an internship for a somewhat local congressman.
00:20:42.760I wasn't in his district, but I was in the district right next to his district.
00:20:46.080And I went out and interned as a college Republican at Temple University for credit, right, on the congressional re-election campaign of a guy by the name of Congressman Kurt Weldon all the way back in 2006.
00:21:05.040And little did I know that you had a direct connection to Congressman Kurt Weldon as well, but neither of us knew what would happen at the end of that campaign.
00:21:16.300Tell us what was Kurt Weldon doing that brought the two of you together?
00:21:19.940Well, you saw the downstream effects of the upstream work that he was doing to help finance advanced technology.
00:21:27.580Kurt Weldon funded in 1999-2000 via the House Armed Services Committee the initial work on able danger, the data mining, the use of data mining as targeting.
00:21:37.920And, Jack, back then nobody knew what the people would work.
00:21:40.120Now data mining is used for everything, but we were the first to do that.
00:21:42.980Fast forward to 2005, the Navy, Captain Scott Philpott, my colleague in able danger, sent me to Capitol Hill to meet with Kurt Weldon to ask for more money, to say, hey, we want to put the band back together.
00:21:58.340Kurt made the mistake of asking, what happened to the money we gave you back in 1999 and 2000?
00:22:03.720It's like, oh, well, I told him all about everything.
00:22:08.340And his question to me, Jack, was, well, why didn't you tell us the 9-11 Commission?
00:22:32.760He did a special order, read it into the congressional record.
00:22:35.620If you go to my website, to any of my social media today, Facebook or Twitter, Kurt's actual statements on the floor of Congress are on my pages.
00:22:48.880And Kurt then, by taking on what I would consider this to be the first engagement of the deep state,
00:22:55.200Kurt was taking on CIA and the FBI and, frankly, DIA against them to get this information out.
00:23:05.100And what they failed to do, that is, the intelligence community and the FBI, the fact that he was pointing out what they failed to do, got him in trouble.
00:23:12.240And it resulted in the FBI right before his re-election in 2006, his daughter being raided.
00:24:36.960So the actual—the claim was collusion with Russia.
00:24:40.400The claim was that he was colluding with Russia, that his daughter was colluding and taking false contracts and all this other stuff.
00:24:47.740No, it was over—it was over collusion with Russia, and this is 2006, so a full decade before, an exact decade before the events of 2016.
00:25:00.220And who do we have again conducting a Russia investigation?
00:25:03.160Oh, right, it's the same guy, Robert Mueller, the same guy who fought to make sure that the 28 pages and the information regarding the FBI informant were kept locked up by—at first, Bush, then Obama, for all those years, to make sure it didn't come out that the FBI actually did have information.
00:25:24.500And the same way we've heard about all these reports of, you know, them getting the—doing the flight training, and they weren't practicing landing, et cetera, et cetera.
00:25:32.980So it was Robert Mueller back then who retaliated against—so I've kind of always had this view, even since that election, that this is what the three-letter agencies can do if you run afoul of them.
00:25:48.560No doubt, and I think that's what Kurt decided to do.
00:25:54.380And again, for people who recall when I testified, I testified in uniform.
00:25:59.760The Pentagon, for the most part, except for a few exceptions, understood what I was doing.
00:26:05.180General Schwartz, Marty Schwartz, was the inbound chairman of the Joint Chiefs at one point.
00:26:10.840I can tell you that the uniformed members of the military supported me through my whistleblowing.
00:26:16.600It was the civilian leadership combined with FBI, CIA, and DIA, who all were essentially all about trying to prevent the disclosure of anything relating to mistakes made.
00:26:31.140And I think it's a combination of a couple of things, Jack.
00:26:49.360And the loss of life, the massive loss of life, which happened from their incompetence or inefficiency, whatever you want to call it, is something they did not want to be held accountable for.
00:27:00.980Kurt chose to try to hold them accountable.
00:27:04.400And I think we are owed answers and a fresh investigation of those who participated in failure regarding the 9-11 attacks.
00:27:14.040No one has ever been held accountable to this day.
00:27:17.460Well, I think it's incredible that, Kurt, you sent me, he just posted something on social media last night talking about able danger, talking about Louis Free, talking about the fact that this information was out there.
00:27:44.320I think that the Bush family was very close to the Saudis.
00:27:49.060I think there were a lot of political and financial reasons that they wanted to keep this power agreement separate and keep it private from the American people.
00:28:00.320We know the Saudis were allowed to fly out of the United States when every other flight in the country was grounded by the FAA.
00:28:09.200And also it's because, look, the House of Saud, they were able – remember, they had only been in power for, what, 60, 70 years at this point.
00:28:19.140They joined up with a radical sect of Wahhabists.
00:28:23.460That's how they maintained power in Saudi Arabia when they first came into control of the kingdom.
00:28:29.280They've always had this sort of footsie relationship with these elements all the way from that time.
00:28:38.260You look at what happened in the 1980s.
00:28:41.480Oh, we'll send them over to Afghanistan.
00:28:44.400They can fight the godless communists over there, which this became the Mujahideen.
00:28:49.820Later the CIA gets involved in the same thing, and we go around and around and around.
00:28:54.000And I think that's what they were trying to prevent everybody from knowing, the fact that these guys, in the same way that Robert Mueller protected Whitey Bulger up in Boston for all those years, that they had a criminal that they were working with.
00:29:09.580They had terrorists that we were working with that we turned a blind eye to their operations because they were working with us or had worked with us in the past.
00:31:28.780I want to talk about a story that is not getting a lot of play nationally, and it should, because it's a huge problem for Democrats, a huge problem for Joe Biden, a huge problem for Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro.
00:31:42.900This is the escape of illegal alien murderer Daniello Cavacante.
00:31:50.840This guy, 12 days ago, escaped from Chester County Prison in southeastern Pennsylvania and has been making a mockery of the Pennsylvania State Police for that entire time frame.
00:32:04.680This guy stabbed his girlfriend 38 times in the back, was not deported, was allowed to stay here in the United States under Joe Biden's policies, and is now currently at large in an area where I've got family that live, little children that live there.
00:32:24.500This is an area where it's generally considered safe.
00:32:29.780You know, Sleepy Hamlets, Chester County, one of the nicest places to live in the entire country.
00:32:51.680The public can expect to see a significant law enforcement presence in the area of East Nantmere Township, where the van was recovered, as well as other areas of northern Chester County.
00:33:03.280There is no need for alarm when those resources are observed.
00:33:07.400If a possible threat develops, we will use the reverse 911 system to notify affected residents.
00:33:13.900Do you have evidence that someone has tried to help him, or is that why you've arrested the sister?
00:33:19.520The sister is in overstay, and she chose not to assist, and because of being in an overstay status, she has been entered into a deportation proceeding and is being detained at this time.
00:33:34.760I'm going to touch base on the timeline here, to make sure that we're correct.
00:33:38.540So he shows up at these homes at 10.30, you think, Saturday night, but yet people in the neighborhood say police weren't making checks until, well, like, at 2 o'clock in the morning.
00:34:06.120We don't have a defined search area at this point.
00:34:09.700We're considering and certainly acting on and investigating any piece of information or tip that we receive, and so we follow those pieces of information with our investigation, as we have done right from the very start, regardless of where they are.
00:34:26.460There are areas that I described, for example, in East Nant Mill Township, for example, that is not a limiter at all for everything else that we're doing.
00:34:34.960Speaking generally, why do you still believe he's investigating?
00:34:37.180Uh, because I have no reason to believe that he is not.
00:34:40.260I don't believe he has the resources to get out of Pennsylvania.
00:34:42.960And, uh, and again, other pieces of information that, uh, that we have generated within this investigation lead me to believe that he is still here.
00:35:08.060He's allowed to get in here because of our lax border policies.
00:35:11.160Then even he, after he kills again, even after he kills again here within our borders, our country, thanks to Joe Biden, doesn't deport him.
00:35:22.320I want to bring on, I'm a little bit hot right now.
00:36:01.020And frankly, I don't think there's any issue that the American people are so strongly and offensively gaslit by our elites on other than immigration.
00:36:10.440And I'm, of course, not just talking about the wage depression, the national security threats, the really ramifications that we experience economically day to day.
00:36:19.680But it's stories like these, and of course, the mainstream media's refusal to report on them.
00:36:24.360Or if they do, they always admit the fact that the person perpetrating the crime, costing taxpayers an arm and a leg to conduct these, you know, search and rescue operations or even prison sentences.
00:36:34.400Had he not escaped, they always admit the fact that it's an illegal immigrant or someone who overstayed their visa.
00:36:40.740But I really think this issue of immigration, there's sort of a broader...
00:37:19.080And when it comes down to it, of course, the multinational corporations just want cheap labor, but they have to spin it to the American people.
00:37:25.060And it's stories like these, Jack, I think why they refuse to ever cover the immigrant angle to it, because it's so detrimental, it's so damning to this narrative that, you know, immigration is our strength here in the United States.
00:37:39.160And it really proves that every town is a border town, not just when you have a wide-open southern border, but when you have extremely lax immigration policies, at least on the enforcement side, right?
00:37:49.540Joe Biden should have deported this man.
00:37:51.940That press conference shouldn't have even been held.
00:37:55.240This man shouldn't have even been, and that prisoner had the opportunity to kill this woman because he should not have been residing here in the United States.
00:38:03.200But there are ramifications, and we don't enforce immigration laws.
00:38:06.620And while it's easy to focus on the macro level, I think if you really go case by case on the micro level, it really is outstanding, not just the taxpayer burden, but just the quality of life burden, the financial burden, the ability to go outside and take your kids on a walk and not be concerned that some crazy, deranged, repeat murderer is going to attack you or hold you hostage.
00:38:31.220And the videos that you're showing me right now, I mean, that doesn't look like America.
00:38:35.940Yeah, the scenery behind them is beautiful, but that's not the America that I grew up in that you know.
00:38:40.660When we think about what this country means, people running around with guns in their backseat trying to find escaped illegal convicts because our law enforcement is either incompetent, incapable, or they don't have the resources to do so.
00:38:53.760It's absolutely ridiculous. And I feel bad for the law enforcement officials who are tasked with dealing with this case, Jack, because we see it all the time from the Border Patrol agents, too.
00:39:03.080You hear them speak out. Their hands are tied, not only because if they talk about the illegal immigrant aspect to what's going on, they'll be mocked and ridiculed, demeaned, probably defamed by the mainstream media as being racist.
00:39:15.600But it really is just a mess of epic proportions. And it's so many competing factors exacerbated by Joe Biden's inability to enforce the rules on the books.
00:39:26.820So now that you're saying they're not sending their best, they're sending people with a lot of problems, they're bringing problems to us, they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists.
00:39:38.240Some, I assume, some, I assume, are good people, right?
00:39:42.840The initial speech, the very first political speech that Donald Trump gave when he announced for president.
00:39:50.280And we're still talking about this stuff. How sad is it that what is eight years since that speech and we still are dealing with the exact same situation that he told us about?
00:40:01.400This guy, 20, they upped it to five, another five grand. By the way, personally, I think if he got picked up, so they said he had a van, right?
00:40:08.820This guy, Cavalcante, they said he stole a van, right? He stole a van right when they were looking at Longwood Gardens, by the way, which is a beautiful botanical garden outside of Philadelphia.
00:40:18.260Everyone should visit there. Not right now, obviously. I used to go there with my grandmother. It's beautiful. It's gorgeous.
00:40:23.600He stole a milk van, basically, and was driving around in it, shaved, goes on ring camera, but then they found the van in a field somewhere.
00:40:35.020So what I think happened most likely is that this guy, it's possible that he met somebody near that field, no cameras around, no cell phones, et cetera, meet somebody, no witnesses, gets in a car.
00:40:51.900He could be long gone at this point. That's why they've upped the reward right now.
00:40:57.560That's why they're putting another five grand on that because the police have no clue where this guy is.
00:41:01.900We've got illegal alien murderers running around our country, but they've already said he's tied to gangs.
00:41:06.200They've already said this dude's tied to gangs. It's completely insane.
00:41:09.740We're taking a break, but when we come back, I want to talk a little bit about this idea that you just mentioned there, that this isn't the country that we used to have.
00:41:19.300It's not the country that certainly you and your generation, Natalie, were promised.
00:41:23.360What is the country today? Is the country that we grew up in no longer the United States of America?
00:41:31.900Does it still exist? Is it still out there?
00:41:35.200Do we have the ability to bring it back?
00:41:38.900Or, as I said on Friday, is it going to be on our shoulders, up to us?
00:41:46.140I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:41:48.820All right, Jack Posobiec, back here, Washington, D.C., and we're talking with Natalie Winters about this concept.
00:42:08.060But we don't have – if you just want to travel around your country, as Raheem Kassam said today in the National Pulse, Natalie, when you see videos or those montages of like the 90s and how things were, the 80s and how things were, does that seem like the country that you've grown up in?
00:42:26.120Does that seem like the country you live in?
00:42:29.460And I have to say I always love doing your show because usually people just invite me on to talk about the Chinese Communist Party and battle off statistics and scary facts.
00:42:37.940So I always enjoy the ability to talk about my opinions.
00:42:42.120But given that, you know, I was born – I guess I'm going to age myself – but in 2001, just a little bit before 9-11.
00:42:49.220So I don't really have any, you know, memories of 9-11 per se.
00:42:53.140And when I think back to the 90s, the 80s, it's just what I've seen through social media, through what I've heard from my friends and my parents.
00:43:00.060So I have a weird, you know, I think maybe glamorized sort of viewpoint of reference on what those times were like.
00:43:06.180But nonetheless, I would happily go back to them than what we're experiencing now for a plethora of reasons, not just politically.
00:43:13.840But what to me I think is so interesting and what I was really able, at least with the age that I am and the frame of references that I have,
00:43:24.120I was born in a time where I think the first half of my life, it was still okay to love America, right?
00:43:31.5009-11 was still when it happened every year, when we commemorated it.
00:43:35.600It wasn't this toxic-loaded thing that if you said, never forget, you were being, you know, Islamophobic, you were being anti-Islam.
00:43:42.860I grew up in California, so my, you know, cutoff for when things changed might be a little different.
00:43:48.460But I noticed as I transitioned from, you know, middle school more so to high school,
00:43:54.160that that was when it really became a loaded topic.
00:43:58.140My high school stopped commemorating 9-11 and said they opted to commemorate Transgender Day of Remembrance,