Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 558： 9⧸11 AND OPERATION ABLE DANGER

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00:02:10.260 No one who lived through the horror of the September 11th terrorist attacks can ever forget the agony and the anguish of that terrible day.

00:02:19.220 It was a terrible day.

00:02:20.280 Today, on the solemn anniversary of those monstrous attacks, we remember the 2,977 precious souls who were savagely taken from us on that morning 22 years ago, leaving a void that can never be filled.

00:02:38.420 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events with Jack Posobiec.

00:02:43.400 We are live in Washington, D.C.

00:02:45.200 Today is 11 September 2023, Anno Domini.

00:02:49.600 Going now live to Real America's Voice correspondent, David Zier, who comes to us live from the streets of lower Manhattan.

00:02:55.760 David, how are you today?

00:02:59.220 I'm great.

00:03:00.060 We're in front of Trinity Church here.

00:03:01.940 George Washington visited here and went to church here.

00:03:05.860 1766 it was built, I believe.

00:03:08.220 And it was a respite for 3,000 first responders and National Guardsmen in the month following the cleanup.

00:03:13.420 It wasn't damaged, pretty miraculous here, only a few broken windows.

00:03:18.920 I always say that Trinity Church was the only church there, the only building down there that wasn't damaged because it was built before we had union labor.

00:03:27.120 But in all seriousness, David...

00:03:29.940 Well, they called it the little church that stood.

00:03:32.620 The little church that stood.

00:03:33.840 No, it was protected by God, and we all know that.

00:03:35.900 David, when that event happened, when 9-11 happened so many years ago, 22 years today, did we ever really think that that would be the last successful, and I mean truly successful, mass terrorist attack in New York City?

00:03:50.420 I believe that we were blindsided, maybe intelligence failures, but I think they were stringing along a lot of chatter, a lot of things.

00:04:04.880 The FBI knew there were pilots in training in the U.S., but had no specific credible threats, you know, as far as I've ever seen or can tell, unless it's classified.

00:04:15.100 But, you know, they arrested Zikarius Moussaoui, but the walls that were put up in 95 between the CIA and the FBI, and the FBI wouldn't let us look at his laptop, you know.

00:04:27.000 And, you know, listen, when you look back at it today and the violations of the Patriot Act against J6ers and other good Americans, you know, maybe it was the right call, I don't know. 1.00

00:04:35.960 But we would have uncovered 9-11, you know, and after 9-11, we went back and got his laptop with a warrant.

00:04:42.240 But I think it was a time where we were unprepared.

00:04:46.760 You know, Bill Clinton had a chance after the Kenyan and Tanzania bombings that left 200 dead, 8,000 wounded in Africa.

00:04:55.080 Bill Clinton admitted in a Long Island luncheon about 20 years ago that we had a chance to take in bin Laden, and he said no, or his administration and the FBI said no,

00:05:05.000 because they wanted to treat it as a criminal case and not a, you know, a terrorist case, and there was disagreement on how to take him in.

00:05:14.960 But, you know, there were a lot of attacks before 9-11.

00:05:17.560 The USS Cole, we had Khobar Towers, we had all these incredible events.

00:05:22.380 And as I said earlier on the war room, you know, in Jersey, in Jersey City, there was a $32 million ATF sting with Muslim extremists out of the Al-Salam mosque in Jersey to buy stinger missiles and other stuff. 0.54

00:05:38.880 So radical terror has infested New York since the Al-Faruq Mosque was recruiting Mujahideen, which the CIA funded and the U.S. backed at the time.

00:05:49.860 But the lines got skewed.

00:05:52.160 And the Al-Faruq Mosque in Brooklyn was also home to Al-Khifa, and it was a stomping ground for El-Sayed Nocer, who shot Mayor Kahana, a former Knesset member who the Palestinians, you know, weren't fond of. 0.52

00:06:03.840 And that's really what started this whole thing.

00:06:07.040 And the first plot was to break him out of Attica prison after he was convicted on the gun charge.

00:06:11.100 That's exactly right, David.

00:06:12.300 We're coming up on our break.

00:06:13.820 I want to say thank you for your life hit.

00:06:16.520 Thank you for your work today up on the war room.

00:06:20.100 And then joining us here now from live at World Trade Center, 22 years here on Human Events.

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00:08:13.680 I want to bring on now Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer, someone that I've got to know over the years here in Washington, D.C.,

00:08:21.460 someone who's always been willing to tell the truth about what's going on inside of our government, even when it comes to great personal cost.

00:08:31.580 And while people know Lieutenant Colonel Schaefer for coming on here and he does great analysis of what's going on in the world,

00:08:37.480 he gives us analysis on Ukraine, on the fight on the ground.

00:08:40.500 A lot of people don't know, actually, the backstory of Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer.

00:08:46.560 And the first time, he blew the whistle on something called ABLE Danger that the Defense Intelligence Agency was working on,

00:08:56.720 but didn't want people to know that they were working on.

00:08:59.140 Lieutenant Colonel Schaefer now joins us today.

00:09:01.560 Tony, how are you doing?

00:09:03.140 Hey, Jack.

00:09:03.940 Always great to join you.

00:09:04.740 And thanks for that description of what we were doing before 9-11.

00:09:09.440 I can walk through that if you'd like.

00:09:12.540 I'd like to very much because I was sort of doing a little internal polling to say,

00:09:16.520 do you guys know about Tony Schaefer and ABLE Danger?

00:09:18.640 Tony Schaefer, ABLE Danger.

00:09:19.860 I said, Tony, I mean, he's, you know, the intel guy who comes on.

00:09:22.300 He talks about Ukraine, et cetera.

00:09:23.880 They said, but what's ABLE Danger?

00:09:25.120 And then I said, all right, we're getting him on.

00:09:27.420 We have to tell the story again because it's been a little dormant.

00:09:31.500 It's now time to bring it all the way back.

00:09:33.560 And I said, get the man on.

00:09:34.720 You so graciously gave us your time today.

00:09:36.820 Tell us, what was ABLE Danger?

00:09:38.580 So before 9-11, as Dave just said, David just said on the run up to this, there was the

00:09:45.320 Tasmania bombing and Kenya bombing.

00:09:51.900 And Special Operations Command was tasked by General Hugh Shelton, chairman of the Joint

00:09:55.920 Chiefs, to do something, to be prepared.

00:09:58.720 ABLE Danger, Jack, is one of those operations that you see in the movies.

00:10:03.160 It was a black operation.

00:10:05.200 Nobody knew about it.

00:10:06.220 You had a bunch of folks who were thrown together to figure things out.

00:10:10.240 And I would argue, looking back on it, that's why we didn't get affected by the 9-11 attacks.

00:10:18.080 So nobody knew we existed.

00:10:20.600 Those other intelligence organizations, such as FBI and CIA, I think they were involved

00:10:26.080 somehow in either allowing the 9-11 hijackers to come in.

00:10:30.640 At least two of the hijackers were escorted by Anwar al-Awlaki, an FBI asset around the country.

00:10:37.400 So the thing is, though, and this is why-

00:10:39.540 So you're doing this on the military side.

00:10:41.840 But when you went over to the FBI side, you encountered what we all later famously heard

00:10:47.760 was called this firewall.

00:10:49.240 So you guys are tracking these known terrorists and known terrorist associates coming into the

00:10:56.160 United States from overseas, but then you go and turn it over to the FBI, you pass the

00:11:00.860 intel, and suddenly it disappears.

00:11:03.900 Right.

00:11:04.640 So to that point, Jack, the lawyers actually told us we couldn't look at the 9-11 hijackers

00:11:11.920 because they were, quote unquote, here illegally.

00:11:13.580 Now think about that.

00:11:14.840 Navy lawyers, no offense to the Navy, Jack, told us, these guys are here.

00:11:19.440 This is a 1999.

00:11:20.860 This is a full two years before 9-11.

00:11:23.920 Don't look there, nothing to see.

00:11:26.160 And then when we tried then, because we couldn't look at it, to pass it to the FBI, the lawyers

00:11:30.740 again interceded, Jamie Gorelick and the wall memo.

00:11:34.820 So even though we had clear information that on two of the five cells, we, the military, had

00:11:40.800 two of the five cells identified by personnel, we couldn't do anything with that because

00:11:45.380 lawyers said, don't look at it.

00:11:47.660 So then the next best thing is to give it to the FBI who could do something with it.

00:11:51.140 And we were stopped every step of the way.

00:11:53.720 And this is why Louis Freed wrote an article, an editorial on the 17th of November, 2005.

00:12:01.740 And his question was, why did the 9-11 commission ignore able danger?

00:12:06.240 And in this article, Louis Freed said, had that information been passed to him, this is

00:12:10.460 the director of the FBI at that time.

00:12:12.880 He felt he could have stopped 9-11.

00:12:14.540 So that's how significant this is.

00:12:16.120 And I think why they went after all of us in 2005, to stop us from talking about this

00:12:22.700 publicly as part of our whistleblowing to Congressman Kurt Weldon and the House Armed Services

00:12:28.240 Committee back in 2004 and 2005.

00:12:33.560 Now, I want to just put a capstone on this before we talk about the sort of retaliatory efforts

00:12:38.440 that you're describing here.

00:12:40.220 So you're saying that essentially the military, and give us those numbers again, how many members

00:12:46.360 of the hijacking cell were identified on these charts?

00:12:51.860 We used, for the first time ever, data mining as an intelligence tool.

00:12:56.500 That had never been done before.

00:12:57.560 Of that data mining, the three terabytes of data we got from multiple sources used the

00:13:05.040 profile of the 94 World Trade Center bombers as our kind of reference point, an algorithm

00:13:11.120 based on them to find guys who looked like those guys.

00:13:14.980 That's what we found.

00:13:15.460 We found approximately six of the 19 bombers.

00:13:21.320 They were distributed through two of the three cells.

00:13:24.420 We didn't get them all, but we got enough.

00:13:25.880 And Jack, if we had gotten two of the cells, I think getting two of the cells would have

00:13:30.520 led to the third.

00:13:31.800 At least that's my belief.

00:13:33.420 But again, it's not me saying that the information was important that to stop 9-11 had

00:13:38.060 been used properly.

00:13:39.360 Louis Free said that.

00:13:40.880 And I think that's the thing that people tend to forget at this point, is that we did have

00:13:45.360 this pre-9-11 offensive special operations capability that was not used.

00:13:52.720 And that's the question of why wasn't it?

00:13:54.520 Why didn't we use lethal force once these guys were identified as with direct links to

00:13:59.100 al-Qaeda leadership, which they were completely pinned down and linked to bin Laden in early

00:14:05.740 2000 and 2001, January 2001.

00:14:10.880 Hugh Shelton was briefed on this at the Pentagon and nothing happened after that.

00:14:15.540 And that's the mystery.

00:14:16.560 Why didn't anything happen after this was ready to go, ready to roll to stop al-Qaeda in 0.91

00:14:21.800 January of 2001?

00:14:23.120 It was put on the shelf.

00:14:24.440 We were disbanded and told to not talk about it.

00:14:27.360 And that's one of the things still not resolved.

00:14:31.420 So it gets put on the shelf.

00:14:32.820 Now, you mentioned this to Louis Free.

00:14:36.000 And I know that you also, at one point, even after all of this took place, obviously the

00:14:42.100 attacks take place.

00:14:43.040 You end up going down range.

00:14:45.320 You're doing other things.

00:14:46.360 But when the commission stood up, you actually came forward and spoke to the head of the

00:14:53.380 commission.

00:14:53.780 Tell me what did the 9-11 commission do with this?

00:14:57.960 Because I've read that report.

00:14:59.500 We've all seen copies of it.

00:15:01.180 I don't remember seeing a single page about this.

00:15:03.620 Right.

00:15:04.100 Well, one of the reasons it's not in here is that I put a chapter in Operation Darkheart,

00:15:10.700 which is my time in Afghanistan.

00:15:12.220 Jack, the reason they went after this book with all the redactions that are in it, I believe,

00:15:17.140 was because of the meeting with Phil Zelikow in October of 2003 at Bagram.

00:15:23.680 We sat down and we were asked to give our recollections to the 9-11 commission members.

00:15:30.100 The staff was there, Zelikow being the staff director.

00:15:33.000 And I told them in no uncertain terms about what Able Danger was, what its objectives were,

00:15:39.040 what we were able to accomplish and how we did it.

00:15:41.380 About a two-page summary.

00:15:43.160 And Zelikow was flabbergasted, was stunned, said that they wanted to get more information

00:15:48.960 on this and asked me to meet with them in Washington when I got back after my undercover

00:15:53.320 tour in Afghanistan.

00:15:55.120 And of course, next thing I know, I'm back in the United States, January of 2004.

00:16:00.080 And instead of wanting to see me, Jack, the 9-11 commission said, oh, we don't want to

00:16:04.860 see you now.

00:16:05.280 We've got all we need.

00:16:06.480 And next thing you know, I'm under investigation, suspended, and the rest is history.

00:16:12.080 Essentially, when I became a whistleblower, they were in the process of trying to fire

00:16:17.620 me and get rid of me. 0.99

00:16:18.420 I believe to shut me up.

00:16:20.120 And obviously, that didn't happen because our mutual friend and someone you work for,

00:16:24.520 Congressman Kurt Weldon, got wind of this when I was attached to the Navy in 2005, when

00:16:29.140 the Navy was trying to rebuild, God bless them, via their internal think tank, via Deep

00:16:35.320 Blue, their internal Pentagon think tank.

00:16:38.000 They were trying to rebuild this.

00:16:39.140 And I, an army guy, was sent over to the hill, to Capitol Hill, to ask for money on behalf

00:16:44.900 of the Navy to rebuild the Able Danger capability.

00:16:47.180 And that's how Kurt Weldon came into helping out on getting this out to the American public.

00:16:53.340 Well, let's get into Kurt Weldon, because I want to hold you after the break into the

00:16:57.160 next segment.

00:16:57.880 Sure.

00:16:57.900 When we, when we look at this, you know, I remember Janet Reno getting up there and

00:17:03.860 George Tenet's, oh, it was a firewall.

00:17:06.020 We weren't allowed to share the information.

00:17:08.780 That never made any sense to me.

00:17:10.680 And I say this as someone who read this report when I was still a civilian.

00:17:14.620 I've now been through the intel community.

00:17:17.080 I spent eight years as, you know, in the IC.

00:17:20.700 And I remember the information is always available.

00:17:24.340 It's just that the agencies on one level don't like sharing work product, but at the higher

00:17:29.640 level, they all talk.

00:17:31.540 They're all talking on a regular basis.

00:17:33.680 And they always have been.

00:17:35.180 And so if there's something going on, they do know about it.

00:17:38.260 We know the 28 pages were out there.

00:17:40.320 We know that these guys came in with ties to Saudi intelligence and that these, those

00:17:45.880 same Saudi intel tied hijackers also rented a apartment, rent an apartment building or

00:17:52.680 house in an apartment building from an FBI informant.

00:17:56.960 All of this information goes into the 28 pages directly implicating elements of the Wahhabist

00:18:04.300 sect of the Saudis with these attacks, with these killings that took place on 9-11.

00:18:11.240 The fact that this was a radical Muslim attack, those pages were censored, were classified for

00:18:19.020 years until they were very, very recently released.

00:18:23.560 This led to lawsuits and else.

00:18:25.480 Stay tuned, folks.

00:18:26.200 We're going to come back right after the break.

00:18:28.820 Tony Schaefer, Lieutenant Colonel, who worked on Operation Able Danger.

00:18:32.660 And we're going to tell you a little bit about how a certain FBI director named Robert Mueller

00:18:39.360 retaliated against people who brought forward this story.

00:18:46.660 You talk about influences.

00:18:48.700 These are influences.

00:18:50.620 And they're friends of mine.

00:18:52.960 Jack Resolick.

00:18:54.540 Where's Jack?

00:18:55.100 He's got a great guy.

00:19:00.560 All right.

00:19:01.200 We're back.

00:19:01.720 Human events.

00:19:02.480 Jack Posobiec here live on this 9-11 memorial.

00:19:06.860 I want to tell you guys something that I'm up this morning.

00:19:10.200 I'm up early.

00:19:11.100 Got to take the kids to school.

00:19:12.720 Got to get everybody ready.

00:19:14.400 Tonya Tay helps out.

00:19:15.280 But you know, what can I say?

00:19:16.120 You know what else helps out?

00:19:17.100 It's my blackout coffee because she made me a huge cup of coffee today.

00:19:22.060 We got the blackout coffee.

00:19:23.640 Today, we actually did the Kahlua.

00:19:25.900 So Tonya Tay loves the Kahlua.

00:19:27.680 She loves how it smells.

00:19:28.720 And in fact, I'm not going to.

00:19:31.140 All right.

00:19:31.300 I'll tell you guys this.

00:19:32.680 You don't repeat it.

00:19:33.980 All right.

00:19:34.160 Nobody.

00:19:34.720 It's just between me and you.

00:19:35.760 All right.

00:19:36.020 Just between me and you.

00:19:37.620 Tonya Tay made herself a cup of blackout coffee today. 0.95

00:19:42.740 And she had some to drink as well.

00:19:44.820 I know.

00:19:45.580 I know.

00:19:46.760 I know.

00:19:47.100 Just keep it between you and me.

00:19:48.760 All right.

00:19:48.940 I won't tell anybody.

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00:19:59.780 You can subscribe, get three or four bags sent directly to your house.

00:20:04.260 And some mornings, some mornings when even Tonya Tay, you know, because we all know she loves her beauty sleep and it shows.

00:20:11.300 Okay.

00:20:11.620 It shows.

00:20:12.280 Even when she needs a little get up and go, she reaches for the blackout coffee.

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00:20:19.040 I want to turn back now to Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer.

00:20:21.960 Tony, you were walking us through and you mentioned something about former Congressman Kurt Weldon.

00:20:27.620 And this is something that I don't usually get to get a chance or have a chance to talk about often on the show.

00:20:34.280 But one of my very first forays into anything political was an internship for a somewhat local congressman.

00:20:42.760 I wasn't in his district, but I was in the district right next to his district.

00:20:46.080 And I went out and interned as a college Republican at Temple University for credit, right, on the congressional re-election campaign of a guy by the name of Congressman Kurt Weldon all the way back in 2006.

00:21:05.040 And little did I know that you had a direct connection to Congressman Kurt Weldon as well, but neither of us knew what would happen at the end of that campaign.

00:21:16.300 Tell us what was Kurt Weldon doing that brought the two of you together?

00:21:19.940 Well, you saw the downstream effects of the upstream work that he was doing to help finance advanced technology.

00:21:27.580 Kurt Weldon funded in 1999-2000 via the House Armed Services Committee the initial work on able danger, the data mining, the use of data mining as targeting.

00:21:36.200 Hugely controversial.

00:21:37.920 And, Jack, back then nobody knew what the people would work.

00:21:40.120 Now data mining is used for everything, but we were the first to do that.

00:21:42.980 Fast forward to 2005, the Navy, Captain Scott Philpott, my colleague in able danger, sent me to Capitol Hill to meet with Kurt Weldon to ask for more money, to say, hey, we want to put the band back together.

00:21:58.340 Kurt made the mistake of asking, what happened to the money we gave you back in 1999 and 2000?

00:22:03.720 It's like, oh, well, I told him all about everything.

00:22:08.340 And his question to me, Jack, was, well, why didn't you tell us the 9-11 Commission?

00:22:12.560 I said, I did.

00:22:13.880 I told Phil Zellicow while I was at Bagram.

00:22:16.480 And I said, I always figured there was a classified annex to the report.

00:22:20.320 Kurt looks at me in the eye and says, Tony, there's no classified annex.

00:22:22.760 And my stomach just dropped.

00:22:24.600 I knew that something was very wrong.

00:22:26.220 So did Kurt.

00:22:27.380 So Kurt then opened the able danger investigation.

00:22:31.680 It's on the Internet.

00:22:32.760 He did a special order, read it into the congressional record.

00:22:35.620 If you go to my website, to any of my social media today, Facebook or Twitter, Kurt's actual statements on the floor of Congress are on my pages.

00:22:46.300 You can watch those for yourself.

00:22:48.880 And Kurt then, by taking on what I would consider this to be the first engagement of the deep state,

00:22:55.200 Kurt was taking on CIA and the FBI and, frankly, DIA against them to get this information out.

00:23:05.100 And what they failed to do, that is, the intelligence community and the FBI, the fact that he was pointing out what they failed to do, got him in trouble.

00:23:12.240 And it resulted in the FBI right before his re-election in 2006, his daughter being raided.

00:23:21.700 Jack, you were there.

00:23:22.480 You saw it yourself.

00:23:23.880 The entire campaign became scrutinized and targeted and raided by the FBI just before November of 2006.

00:23:34.200 And the result was—

00:23:34.880 People think that, by the way, you know, people think that Russiagate was the first time that POSO was investigated by Robert Mueller.

00:23:41.380 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:23:43.140 That was just the first time in a long while that I was investigated by Robert Mueller.

00:23:49.300 No, my very first crush-up with Robert Mueller, who was the director.

00:23:53.000 He became director right before—one week before 9-11.

00:23:55.580 Literally a week before 9-11.

00:23:55.600 Robert Mueller becomes director.

00:23:57.000 He orders this raid on Kurt Weldon something like a couple of weeks before—I think it was one month before the election.

00:24:05.360 Destroys his chances, right?

00:24:06.640 It was a tight election.

00:24:08.640 Delaware County, Pennsylvania completely destroys his chances.

00:24:12.220 By the way, and you remember—this is what everybody forgets.

00:24:16.260 Nobody was charged.

00:24:17.460 Nothing came of it.

00:24:18.820 Of course.

00:24:19.480 Nothing was ever found.

00:24:20.440 No, it was held over his head for years.

00:24:21.920 No.

00:24:22.080 But do you remember—do you remember what the investigation was about, what they actually claimed that Kurt Weldon was doing back then?

00:24:32.220 You know, I actually don't, Jack.

00:24:34.480 It was the imprimatur.

00:24:36.960 So the actual—the claim was collusion with Russia.

00:24:40.400 The claim was that he was colluding with Russia, that his daughter was colluding and taking false contracts and all this other stuff.

00:24:47.740 No, it was over—it was over collusion with Russia, and this is 2006, so a full decade before, an exact decade before the events of 2016.

00:25:00.220 And who do we have again conducting a Russia investigation?

00:25:03.160 Oh, right, it's the same guy, Robert Mueller, the same guy who fought to make sure that the 28 pages and the information regarding the FBI informant were kept locked up by—at first, Bush, then Obama, for all those years, to make sure it didn't come out that the FBI actually did have information.

00:25:24.500 And the same way we've heard about all these reports of, you know, them getting the—doing the flight training, and they weren't practicing landing, et cetera, et cetera.

00:25:32.980 So it was Robert Mueller back then who retaliated against—so I've kind of always had this view, even since that election, that this is what the three-letter agencies can do if you run afoul of them.

00:25:48.560 No doubt, and I think that's what Kurt decided to do.

00:25:54.380 And again, for people who recall when I testified, I testified in uniform.

00:25:59.760 The Pentagon, for the most part, except for a few exceptions, understood what I was doing.

00:26:05.180 General Schwartz, Marty Schwartz, was the inbound chairman of the Joint Chiefs at one point.

00:26:10.840 I can tell you that the uniformed members of the military supported me through my whistleblowing.

00:26:14.440 It was people like Steve Cambone.

00:26:16.600 It was the civilian leadership combined with FBI, CIA, and DIA, who all were essentially all about trying to prevent the disclosure of anything relating to mistakes made.

00:26:31.140 And I think it's a combination of a couple of things, Jack.

00:26:33.120 I think that folks made mistakes.

00:26:35.320 I think, looking back on it now, FBI and CIA somehow believed allowing these folks to be in the United States was okay.

00:26:45.400 And for any number of reasons, things got out of control.

00:26:47.680 Information was not shared.

00:26:49.360 And the loss of life, the massive loss of life, which happened from their incompetence or inefficiency, whatever you want to call it, is something they did not want to be held accountable for.

00:27:00.980 Kurt chose to try to hold them accountable.

00:27:03.100 He still does.

00:27:03.820 He still is.

00:27:04.400 And I think we are owed answers and a fresh investigation of those who participated in failure regarding the 9-11 attacks.

00:27:14.040 No one has ever been held accountable to this day.

00:27:17.460 Well, I think it's incredible that, Kurt, you sent me, he just posted something on social media last night talking about able danger, talking about Louis Free, talking about the fact that this information was out there.

00:27:31.320 The entire government knew about it.

00:27:32.500 And here's the thing that we really need to get to the bottom of.

00:27:36.120 And I think that people have been able to piece together.

00:27:38.880 And I'll just ask your sort of assessment on why it was that there was such a stop-up.

00:27:43.360 Look, I'm going to say it.

00:27:44.320 I think that the Bush family was very close to the Saudis.

00:27:49.060 I think there were a lot of political and financial reasons that they wanted to keep this power agreement separate and keep it private from the American people.

00:28:00.320 We know the Saudis were allowed to fly out of the United States when every other flight in the country was grounded by the FAA.

00:28:09.200 And also it's because, look, the House of Saud, they were able – remember, they had only been in power for, what, 60, 70 years at this point.

00:28:19.140 They joined up with a radical sect of Wahhabists.

00:28:23.460 That's how they maintained power in Saudi Arabia when they first came into control of the kingdom.

00:28:29.280 They've always had this sort of footsie relationship with these elements all the way from that time.

00:28:38.260 You look at what happened in the 1980s.

00:28:40.360 What were they doing with these guys?

00:28:41.480 Oh, we'll send them over to Afghanistan. 1.00

00:28:44.400 They can fight the godless communists over there, which this became the Mujahideen. 0.98

00:28:49.820 Later the CIA gets involved in the same thing, and we go around and around and around.

00:28:54.000 And I think that's what they were trying to prevent everybody from knowing, the fact that these guys, in the same way that Robert Mueller protected Whitey Bulger up in Boston for all those years, that they had a criminal that they were working with.

00:29:09.580 They had terrorists that we were working with that we turned a blind eye to their operations because they were working with us or had worked with us in the past.

00:29:19.980 Right.

00:29:20.240 Jack, they did the same thing with the IRA and the Ireland.

00:29:23.240 I was talking to the FBI agents back before the Northern Ireland peace plan.

00:29:28.020 They would allow IRA terrorists to wander around Old Town Alexandria unmolested.

00:29:34.620 So, look, the FBI has done this as a matter of policy for a number of years.

00:29:41.560 That's exactly right.

00:29:42.900 Where can people go to find more information if they want to?

00:29:46.800 Because I know we're just scratching the surface here.

00:29:48.880 For a lot of folks, they've never heard about this.

00:29:51.760 How can they get more info about this and where would you suggest they go?

00:29:56.100 Well, first off, just go to my social media, Tspooky on X.

00:30:02.100 We can Facebook, Anthony Schaefer.

00:30:03.760 I've posted all this there.

00:30:05.380 There's a deeper dive on this.

00:30:07.200 When you see Kurt's post and his special order, he read all the information that they need to know under the congressional record.

00:30:13.880 The late Walter Jones read my career under the congressional record in September of 2011.

00:30:19.180 So, if anybody wants to know kind of the larger story, they can track down the summary of my career.

00:30:24.760 Jack, as we've talked about a number of times, pick up Operation Darkheart.

00:30:29.840 It's a great read.

00:30:30.920 We go into great detail regarding Able Danger and why the 9-11 Commission was told and how they didn't want to hear it.

00:30:39.440 And they tried to make it go away.

00:30:41.220 But here we are, 22 years past the date.

00:30:43.460 I think it's time we get this out there into the light of day so we can see what really happened.

00:30:49.100 I think the American people are finally at a place where they realize that when they were told –

00:30:54.600 and I remember saying, don't listen to Tony Schaefer. 0.95

00:30:56.680 Don't listen to this crazy guy. 0.94

00:30:58.680 We're telling you the truth. 1.00

00:30:59.980 No.

00:31:00.380 He was telling us the truth all along.

00:31:02.420 Go listen to Tony Schaefer.

00:31:03.440 We're now going to go to, in the next segment, a live situation that's taking place actually not far from where I grew up.

00:31:11.740 An escaped illegal alien.

00:31:14.560 Murderer. 0.99

00:31:16.800 Stop buzzing in my ear about the boring people at your office. 0.92

00:31:20.480 I'm trying to listen to the new human events with Jack Posobiec.

00:31:25.760 All right, Jack Posobiec back live.

00:31:27.980 Human events.

00:31:28.780 I want to talk about a story that is not getting a lot of play nationally, and it should, because it's a huge problem for Democrats, a huge problem for Joe Biden, a huge problem for Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro.

00:31:42.900 This is the escape of illegal alien murderer Daniello Cavacante.

00:31:50.840 This guy, 12 days ago, escaped from Chester County Prison in southeastern Pennsylvania and has been making a mockery of the Pennsylvania State Police for that entire time frame.

00:32:04.680 This guy stabbed his girlfriend 38 times in the back, was not deported, was allowed to stay here in the United States under Joe Biden's policies, and is now currently at large in an area where I've got family that live, little children that live there.

00:32:24.500 This is an area where it's generally considered safe.

00:32:29.780 You know, Sleepy Hamlets, Chester County, one of the nicest places to live in the entire country.

00:32:34.120 He's changed his appearance.

00:32:36.020 He is currently on the run.

00:32:37.420 He's stealing vans.

00:32:38.780 We have no clue where he is.

00:32:40.460 A press conference was just held regarding Daniello Cavacante.

00:32:45.740 And so I want to go in to that from the Pennsylvania State Police.

00:32:49.640 Do we have that clip, guys?

00:32:51.680 The public can expect to see a significant law enforcement presence in the area of East Nantmere Township, where the van was recovered, as well as other areas of northern Chester County.

00:33:03.280 There is no need for alarm when those resources are observed.

00:33:07.400 If a possible threat develops, we will use the reverse 911 system to notify affected residents.

00:33:13.900 Do you have evidence that someone has tried to help him, or is that why you've arrested the sister?

00:33:19.520 The sister is in overstay, and she chose not to assist, and because of being in an overstay status, she has been entered into a deportation proceeding and is being detained at this time.

00:33:34.760 I'm going to touch base on the timeline here, to make sure that we're correct.

00:33:38.540 So he shows up at these homes at 10.30, you think, Saturday night, but yet people in the neighborhood say police weren't making checks until, well, like, at 2 o'clock in the morning.

00:33:48.680 Was there any kind of delay here?

00:33:50.940 So people at the church tell us that people need to start looking at the church for three days.

00:33:54.200 We weren't notified until well after midnight of the sightings.

00:34:01.280 So two hours after he stood up at this house and had a conversation with you?

00:34:04.280 At least two hours.

00:34:06.120 We don't have a defined search area at this point.

00:34:09.700 We're considering and certainly acting on and investigating any piece of information or tip that we receive, and so we follow those pieces of information with our investigation, as we have done right from the very start, regardless of where they are.

00:34:26.460 There are areas that I described, for example, in East Nant Mill Township, for example, that is not a limiter at all for everything else that we're doing.

00:34:34.960 Speaking generally, why do you still believe he's investigating?

00:34:37.180 Uh, because I have no reason to believe that he is not.

00:34:40.260 I don't believe he has the resources to get out of Pennsylvania.

00:34:42.960 And, uh, and again, other pieces of information that, uh, that we have generated within this investigation lead me to believe that he is still here.

00:34:52.520 They have no clue where he is.

00:34:54.260 They have no idea whatsoever where this guy is.

00:34:57.040 He's making a mockery of our state.

00:34:58.780 He's making a mockery of our country.

00:35:00.320 He shouldn't be here. 0.98

00:35:01.600 He murdered someone in Brazil, by the way, shot him. 0.89

00:35:05.620 Then he comes to the United States.

00:35:08.060 He's allowed to get in here because of our lax border policies.

00:35:11.160 Then even he, after he kills again, even after he kills again here within our borders, our country, thanks to Joe Biden, doesn't deport him.

00:35:22.320 I want to bring on, I'm a little bit hot right now.

00:35:23.860 I want to bring on Natalie Winters. 0.99

00:35:26.040 Natalie, why do we suck so much? 0.91

00:35:28.460 Why does our country allow these things to happen? 1.00

00:35:30.420 Why do we have people like this who are allowed to run amok?

00:35:33.500 Who knows who he's going to kill next because he wants to get their car, because he wants to get their belongings.

00:35:38.180 By the way, uh, and we can show the clip here.

00:35:41.300 Pennsylvanians have now gotten wind of this.

00:35:44.220 You got people driving around in Jeeps with AK 47s and AR 15s because they know there's a 20,000, now 25,000 reward for this guy.

00:35:54.900 Natalie, how quickly are we descending into Mad Max?

00:35:58.200 No, you're right to be upset.

00:36:01.020 And frankly, I don't think there's any issue that the American people are so strongly and offensively gaslit by our elites on other than immigration.

00:36:10.440 And I'm, of course, not just talking about the wage depression, the national security threats, the really ramifications that we experience economically day to day.

00:36:19.680 But it's stories like these, and of course, the mainstream media's refusal to report on them.

00:36:24.360 Or if they do, they always admit the fact that the person perpetrating the crime, costing taxpayers an arm and a leg to conduct these, you know, search and rescue operations or even prison sentences.

00:36:34.400 Had he not escaped, they always admit the fact that it's an illegal immigrant or someone who overstayed their visa.

00:36:40.740 But I really think this issue of immigration, there's sort of a broader...

00:36:43.920 That's exactly right.

00:36:44.600 No one is talking about the fact that this guy is an illegal alien.

00:36:48.020 You and I are talking about it.

00:36:49.200 The View talked about this.

00:36:50.340 A couple of CNN talked about it.

00:36:51.440 No one else is talking about the fact that this guy's an illegal.

00:36:53.600 No one.

00:36:54.160 That's a huge problem for the Democrats.

00:36:55.660 And it's because it doesn't fit the narrative.

00:36:59.440 I think the story that we're spun about immigration, both legal and illegal, is that it is only a net good for the country, right?

00:37:08.140 We have a declining birth rate, so we need people to make up for that.

00:37:11.180 That narrative has been debunked.

00:37:12.900 We need immigrants because diversity is our strength.

00:37:15.320 That narrative is very easily debunked.

00:37:17.800 But what you...

00:37:19.080 And when it comes down to it, of course, the multinational corporations just want cheap labor, but they have to spin it to the American people.

00:37:25.060 And it's stories like these, Jack, I think why they refuse to ever cover the immigrant angle to it, because it's so detrimental, it's so damning to this narrative that, you know, immigration is our strength here in the United States.

00:37:37.380 It really humanizes the issue.

00:37:39.160 And it really proves that every town is a border town, not just when you have a wide-open southern border, but when you have extremely lax immigration policies, at least on the enforcement side, right?

00:37:49.540 Joe Biden should have deported this man.

00:37:51.940 That press conference shouldn't have even been held.

00:37:54.120 Go back to square one.

00:37:55.240 This man shouldn't have even been, and that prisoner had the opportunity to kill this woman because he should not have been residing here in the United States.

00:38:03.200 But there are ramifications, and we don't enforce immigration laws.

00:38:06.620 And while it's easy to focus on the macro level, I think if you really go case by case on the micro level, it really is outstanding, not just the taxpayer burden, but just the quality of life burden, the financial burden, the ability to go outside and take your kids on a walk and not be concerned that some crazy, deranged, repeat murderer is going to attack you or hold you hostage.

00:38:31.220 And the videos that you're showing me right now, I mean, that doesn't look like America. 0.91

00:38:35.940 Yeah, the scenery behind them is beautiful, but that's not the America that I grew up in that you know.

00:38:40.660 When we think about what this country means, people running around with guns in their backseat trying to find escaped illegal convicts because our law enforcement is either incompetent, incapable, or they don't have the resources to do so. 0.92

00:38:53.760 It's absolutely ridiculous. And I feel bad for the law enforcement officials who are tasked with dealing with this case, Jack, because we see it all the time from the Border Patrol agents, too.

00:39:03.080 You hear them speak out. Their hands are tied, not only because if they talk about the illegal immigrant aspect to what's going on, they'll be mocked and ridiculed, demeaned, probably defamed by the mainstream media as being racist.

00:39:15.600 But it really is just a mess of epic proportions. And it's so many competing factors exacerbated by Joe Biden's inability to enforce the rules on the books.

00:39:26.820 So now that you're saying they're not sending their best, they're sending people with a lot of problems, they're bringing problems to us, they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists.

00:39:38.240 Some, I assume, some, I assume, are good people, right?

00:39:42.840 The initial speech, the very first political speech that Donald Trump gave when he announced for president.

00:39:50.280 And we're still talking about this stuff. How sad is it that what is eight years since that speech and we still are dealing with the exact same situation that he told us about?

00:40:01.400 This guy, 20, they upped it to five, another five grand. By the way, personally, I think if he got picked up, so they said he had a van, right?

00:40:08.820 This guy, Cavalcante, they said he stole a van, right? He stole a van right when they were looking at Longwood Gardens, by the way, which is a beautiful botanical garden outside of Philadelphia.

00:40:18.260 Everyone should visit there. Not right now, obviously. I used to go there with my grandmother. It's beautiful. It's gorgeous.

00:40:23.600 He stole a milk van, basically, and was driving around in it, shaved, goes on ring camera, but then they found the van in a field somewhere.

00:40:35.020 So what I think happened most likely is that this guy, it's possible that he met somebody near that field, no cameras around, no cell phones, et cetera, meet somebody, no witnesses, gets in a car.

00:40:51.900 He could be long gone at this point. That's why they've upped the reward right now.

00:40:57.560 That's why they're putting another five grand on that because the police have no clue where this guy is.

00:41:01.900 We've got illegal alien murderers running around our country, but they've already said he's tied to gangs.

00:41:06.200 They've already said this dude's tied to gangs. It's completely insane. 0.98

00:41:09.740 We're taking a break, but when we come back, I want to talk a little bit about this idea that you just mentioned there, that this isn't the country that we used to have.

00:41:19.300 It's not the country that certainly you and your generation, Natalie, were promised.

00:41:23.360 What is the country today? Is the country that we grew up in no longer the United States of America?

00:41:31.900 Does it still exist? Is it still out there?

00:41:35.200 Do we have the ability to bring it back?

00:41:38.900 Or, as I said on Friday, is it going to be on our shoulders, up to us?

00:41:46.140 I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.

00:41:48.820 All right, Jack Posobiec, back here, Washington, D.C., and we're talking with Natalie Winters about this concept.

00:41:59.400 You know, we've got illegal alien murderers running around. 1.00

00:42:02.240 You have to take your shoes off. 0.92

00:42:03.880 If you want to go on an airplane, you have no dignity.

00:42:06.660 You're treated like a piece of meat.

00:42:08.060 But we don't have – if you just want to travel around your country, as Raheem Kassam said today in the National Pulse, Natalie, when you see videos or those montages of like the 90s and how things were, the 80s and how things were, does that seem like the country that you've grown up in?

00:42:26.120 Does that seem like the country you live in?

00:42:28.520 No, no.

00:42:29.460 And I have to say I always love doing your show because usually people just invite me on to talk about the Chinese Communist Party and battle off statistics and scary facts.

00:42:37.940 So I always enjoy the ability to talk about my opinions.

00:42:42.120 But given that, you know, I was born – I guess I'm going to age myself – but in 2001, just a little bit before 9-11.

00:42:49.220 So I don't really have any, you know, memories of 9-11 per se.

00:42:53.140 And when I think back to the 90s, the 80s, it's just what I've seen through social media, through what I've heard from my friends and my parents.

00:43:00.060 So I have a weird, you know, I think maybe glamorized sort of viewpoint of reference on what those times were like.

00:43:06.180 But nonetheless, I would happily go back to them than what we're experiencing now for a plethora of reasons, not just politically.

00:43:13.840 But what to me I think is so interesting and what I was really able, at least with the age that I am and the frame of references that I have,

00:43:24.120 I was born in a time where I think the first half of my life, it was still okay to love America, right?

00:43:31.500 9-11 was still when it happened every year, when we commemorated it.

00:43:35.600 It wasn't this toxic-loaded thing that if you said, never forget, you were being, you know, Islamophobic, you were being anti-Islam.

00:43:42.860 I grew up in California, so my, you know, cutoff for when things changed might be a little different.

00:43:48.460 But I noticed as I transitioned from, you know, middle school more so to high school,

00:43:54.160 that that was when it really became a loaded topic.

00:43:58.140 My high school stopped commemorating 9-11 and said they opted to commemorate Transgender Day of Remembrance,

00:44:06.420 whatever the heck that is.

00:44:07.580 They would plaster the school in transgender flags, but not American flags. 0.86

00:44:11.040 Well, it's because of the transgenocide that's going on. 1.00

00:44:13.200 The transgenocide. 0.96

00:44:13.880 Well, of course.

00:44:14.440 You can go to Google, and Google will tell you all about the transgender genocide. 1.00

00:44:18.080 But if you actually try to, you know, look up, like, like, like facts and figures about it, there's none.

00:44:24.220 Oh, do I see, do you guys have, are you guys going to throw the Pizza Hut ad on me?

00:44:27.780 Is that what you're doing?

00:44:29.960 Natalie, have you seen this, this Pizza Hut ad?

00:44:32.020 We're playing it on the, on the B-roll here.

00:44:33.520 But this, this used to run in the 1980s, the 1990s, and you just, and it's not,

00:44:39.000 so I talk about Pizza Hut nationalism all the time.

00:44:41.620 But you look, and it's not about the pizza, right?

00:44:44.360 It's not even about necessarily the food.

00:44:46.160 It's about the sense of community that we had in regular restaurants and all over the place

00:44:55.180 in this sort of sense that everything was good, things were going to get better, we're going to be okay.

00:44:59.720 Right there, Pizza Hut, your home team, right?

00:45:01.900 And there are these, there was this, this idea of nationalism that was, and, and not in a, in a political sense,

00:45:08.240 but just a sense of community that exuded through these ads.

00:45:12.000 Keep playing them, guys.

00:45:12.760 Keep playing them.

00:45:13.600 That I feel that we've completely lost since then.

00:45:17.180 Well, Jack, I think in some, to some extent, it is about the food as well, and not even in a political sense.

00:45:24.940 But I do think when I was talking about the plethora of ways that we've seen just society and culture change,

00:45:29.820 I think that's a perfect example, and not just on the community front, but what we've really seen,

00:45:35.120 I think, not just big agriculture, big food, but special interests, and even very, very high net worth individuals,

00:45:42.360 people, of course, like Bill Gates, really try to weaponize the food supply, the concept of food,

00:45:47.500 the ability, you know, for example, pizza, to eat dairy, to eat meat, to make those decisions for yourself.

00:45:53.640 Instead, you have these weird people representing nefarious interests, economic interests,

00:45:58.420 not the health of the American citizen or American consumer, making the decisions about what we should eat.

00:46:04.720 And it really is crazy.

00:46:05.640 I'm obviously a huge seed oil skeptic in terms of these industrially refined oils,

00:46:11.120 but we've seen the food supply just become so contaminated with stuff that is so toxic to your health.

00:46:17.740 You know, it's the same stuff that they use to propel airplanes and make, you know, bombs go off.

00:46:22.680 But they put that in our bodies, because those are the same special interests that are lobbying the USDA.

00:46:28.160 And I really do think that food is an interesting benchmark to see how far we've fallen,

00:46:32.920 because we've seen what is the normal, traditional, celebrated way of life, right?

00:46:37.860 Eating normal meals that contain butter and dairy and meat.

00:46:41.120 That have micronutrients that are essential for human health, be supplanted and replaced by government-subsidized and sanctioned,

00:46:48.920 and really forced, of course, in conjunction and in collusion with the Bill Gates types of the world and the NGOs,

00:46:55.340 to swap that traditional lifestyle out for foods that have only been invented in the last decade.

00:47:00.980 These soil alternatives, the beyond meat.

00:47:03.620 And again, you can focus it out with just food, who cares?

00:47:06.000 But I really think that there's something more symbolic to that.

00:47:09.200 And I think that in today's, you know, version of America, there's really nothing more that is demonized than, you know,

00:47:15.540 having dinner as a nuclear family when your dad gets home from work, eating a piece of steak, drinking a glass of milk.

00:47:22.800 You know, right there, I think we just rattled off like eight cardinal sins in Joe Biden's America.

00:47:29.400 But the difference is, Jack, I think they used to just disapprove of us doing that.

00:47:34.180 But now I think the reason why the America that we live in is so unrecognizable

00:47:38.420 is because they're no longer OK with just casting shade and trying to make it more difficult

00:47:44.060 for you to be able to live the life you want, right?

00:47:46.640 Freedom of choice.

00:47:47.340 They are now actively pursuing to the tune of billions of dollars in government spending.

00:47:52.860 It's a whole censorship industrial complex, a fully blown weaponization of the federal government

00:47:58.100 to make sure that the type of lifestyle that they want you to have, that is, I'm sure,

00:48:04.460 capped off by being, you know, plant-based and not believing in the things we believe

00:48:08.380 and not having a nuclear family and having your kids be trans, gay, whatever you name it, 0.79

00:48:13.620 is that's the difference.

00:48:15.600 They are now forcibly weaponizing the government to make sure that that is a reality.

00:48:21.200 I think that freedom, look no further than going, trying to walk through an airport,

00:48:25.280 that freedom, that ability to choose has been drastically taken away from us.

00:48:30.340 We're exactly right, Natalie.

00:48:32.200 They've taken away our communities.

00:48:34.860 They've taken away family dinners, the third spaces of America, places where we can just go.

00:48:41.660 And it's not school, it's not work, it's not home, but another place.

00:48:47.340 So the attacks on community, the attacks on neighborhoods, the attacks on trying to destroy

00:48:52.420 suburbs by putting Section 8 housing in there, massive housing complexes everywhere full of

00:48:57.620 government housing, which is a huge plan the Democrats have to destroy these communal bonds

00:49:02.800 because they know if they can break up the nuclear family, they can destabilize the country 0.98

00:49:09.320 once and for all.

00:49:10.200 Natalie Winters, God bless.

00:49:11.580 Always a pleasure having you on.

00:49:13.680 Thank you so much for having me.

00:49:15.800 Folks, go follow Natalie Winters. 0.98

00:49:17.740 And maybe we can help Natalie Winters and so many people like her who don't know what

00:49:24.340 pre-9-11 America was like.

00:49:27.420 We can restore it.

00:49:28.760 It'll never be exactly the same.

00:49:30.760 But when we create the new American Republic, we'll create it for everyone.

00:49:37.680 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - September 11, 2023

EPISODE 558： 9⧸11 AND OPERATION ABLE DANGER

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